1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: Hey, good evening. I'm Chris Merrill. 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: Pleasure spending time with you. Thank you so much for 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 3: inviting me in on your Thanksgiving week. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: It is it's super dynamite. 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: I guess, uh, Mark Ronner, my friend. I was listening 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: intently on all of your news stories, including the turkeys 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: that got pardoned, thank god. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know if they made a donation or not. 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Oh that was good. I hadn't come up with that 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: one yet. 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: I hadn't he so Trump was being his normal sort 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: of vicious humor self, and he said he was gonna 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: call the birds Chuck and Nancy. But then I realized 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be pardoning them. I would never pardon those 16 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 3: two people. I wouldn't pardon them. That's rather unkind, isn't it. 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: It is? 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 3: But kind of funny. He said he had a joke 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: about JB. Pritzker as well that he was gonna tell. 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 3: In fact, here's hold on. What did he say? I'm 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: not going to tell my pretty joke. That's the governor 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: of Illinois. I have a very cute little joke. Some 23 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: speechwriter wrote some joke about his weight. I would never 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: want to talk about his weight. I don't talk about 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: people being fat. I refuse to talk about the fact 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: that he's a fat slob. 27 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: I don't mention it. Huh. 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: I don't talk about people being fat. He's a fat slob. 29 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: Model of self restraint. 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: That's yeah. 31 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: And then wasn't it just last week that he called 32 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: Catherine Lucy piggy? You really want to drag me into this. 33 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm just checking. I'm just asking for a fat Yes, yes, 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: it's done, ok. I believe it was quiet piggy, quiet piggy. 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, the birds are free. So we got 36 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: that going forward. 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see somebody said Trump pardon two turkeys 38 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: at the White House today. 39 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 40 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: Five minutes later, I judge stepped in and restored their sentence. 41 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: That was really funny. Nice nice. I appreciated that one. Meanwhile, 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: we got an awful lot of people that are that 43 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: are trying to travel, and then I heard the story 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: you had about the the what is it the catering 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: workers that are protesting at LAX. 46 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like are trying to break that up. 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. As if traffic right now isn't awful 48 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: enough right at the airport. Yeah, I mean, as if 49 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: that's not a nightmare anyway. 50 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: I mean driving somebody to lax is kind of a 51 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: that's like a deal breaker and a friendship in the 52 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 3: first place. Well, so this is funny you say that 53 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: because I was talking to Ali, you know, who's our 54 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: tech director? 55 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: Ask you for a ride? No, so he said that 56 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: he has to What was it, Ali, Yeah, I have 57 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: to go pick up my girlfriend tomorrow. 58 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: So that's just dumper. No, well, I think this kind 59 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: of falls in the gray area. Okay, it depends on 60 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 3: how how strong their relationship is, doesn't it not very strong? 61 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: Shift tomorrow? I can oh all it's smart. Oh yeah, honey, 62 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: grab an uber. Oh that's a good idea. That's a 63 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 2: good idea. Have you have you considered hitchhiking, sweetheart? Nothing 64 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: ever happens, nothing bad happens California freeways. 65 00:02:59,080 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 4: To hitch. 66 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: It won't be as crazy, right, you know what? 67 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: All the best people right, Well, yeah, you're gonna get 68 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: the crazies. What do they say though, that you're you're 69 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: better off to fly early in the morning or late 70 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: at night. Isn't it like if you can land. 71 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 5: Early is better before twelve PM. 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, all right, But if you're coming in from 73 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: a long ways away, you might not have that option. 74 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're flying in from the east coast, 75 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: of course, because time change is on her. 76 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 6: If you're flying global as well, you get what you're 77 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 6: given in terms of your landing time. 78 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: Oh that's true, that's true. I always that is the 79 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: one thing. I'd look at the time that the plane 80 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: is leaving, and I take a look at how long 81 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: the total duration is, because I don't want to be 82 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: stuck in a four hour layover, right. 83 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: I hate that stuff. 84 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: So it's one of those deals where I might brave 85 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: the traffic if it means I get, say a direct flight, 86 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: but if I have to do a connection. 87 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: Somewhere, then I go, oh, this is going to be miserable. 88 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, I guess people are already headed out and the 89 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: travel rush for the holidays has begun from ABC. 90 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 7: Just like that, the holiday travel season takes off. No 91 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 7: matter how you're moving, you'll be in crowded company. 92 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: They said that was only one seat empty. I was 93 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: expecting it's. 94 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: You've ever been in a plane and they tell you 95 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: there's that We're nearly full, Just one empty seat and 96 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: the whole time you're praying to youar God, don't let 97 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: it be in the middle seat next to me, right, You're like, 98 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: come on, just skip right past me. This is the 99 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: advantage that I have. I'm a large man, and I'm 100 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: very unattractive, and so no one wants to sit by me. 101 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: So if it's you know, if it's three rows, I 102 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: try to get a window. But nobody wants to sit 103 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: next to the fat, ugly dude in the middle because 104 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: they just assume I smell bat or something. Right, And 105 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times I've lucked out 106 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: and the empty seat on the plane has been the 107 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: one next to me. 108 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: It's great, go figure. 109 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: Oh now, every now I get an advantage as a 110 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: preposterously handsome man. 111 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: I can't do that. 112 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: So what I have to do is open up my 113 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: laptop and fire up the worst movie I have on 114 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: it so that nobody wants to sit there. 115 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 5: What's the movie, Well. 116 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: You have a go to. 117 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's either an Italian splatter film like a Luccio 118 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: fulcine there you go, like Beyond or something like that 119 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: with the spiders eating eyeballs, or well, pornography. Oh on 120 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: a plane that's a great idea. Yeah, no, I I 121 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: because you don't want kids sitting next to you on 122 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: a plane. 123 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 5: Hell ever, have you ever pulled out cannibal Holocaust? 124 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: I have seen Cannibal Holocaust, and I like to watch 125 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: other people watch him Cannibal Holocaust because it's one of 126 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: the worst things ever perpetrated, and for the people who 127 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: are unaware of this vile piece of filth. The director 128 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: of it, Riguero Diodado, was hauled into court in Italy 129 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: to prove it wasn't a snuff film. 130 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: It's terrible. 131 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: It's so bad. 132 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: It's even than I remember that he had. 133 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 3: They thought they thought, yeah, they thought they were actually 134 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: killing people on screen. He basically had to show them 135 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: how he did it, didn't he It's traumatizing, and I 136 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: didn't mean to hijack the whole conversation. We were just 137 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 3: talking about strategies to keep people from sitting next to 138 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: you on the plane. 139 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that all right, Back to Lax feel 140 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: a little bit worse than it was, so I was pleasantly. 141 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 7: Perhaps it's because she got out before the real rush. 142 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 7: The TSA anticipates tomorrow, November twenty fifth, will be the 143 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 7: biggest crush for air travelers trying to make it to 144 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 7: their Thanksgiving destinations. 145 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: That's today, Today's twenty fifth just updates. 146 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 7: Between now and next Tuesday, the agency expects to screen 147 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 7: more than seventeen million passengers, but getting through security screening 148 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 7: is only one step in the multi part airport slog. 149 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 8: So we're supposed to be here two or three hours ago, 150 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 8: so we're ready for overnight. 151 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 7: Weather has it still could snarl travel in parts of 152 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 7: the country, but with the government back open at full 153 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 7: capacity airspaces, two three hundred and sixty thousand flights are 154 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 7: expected to operate over the next week, in what the 155 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 7: Federal Aviation Administration says will be a fifteen year peak. 156 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: I thought we were going broke. This is more evidence 157 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: of this K shaped recovery. 158 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: If you're unfamiliar, the K shape recovery means that the 159 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: people that have money, their recovery is looking really good, 160 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: and on the chart it goes, you know, it starts 161 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: starts in the middle, and then it goes kind of 162 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: an upward curve, and those that don't have money things 163 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: continue to be more and more difficult as prices keep 164 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: going up. 165 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: And there if you look at the chart. 166 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: As far as you know recovery and such, it's kind 167 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 3: of a downward curve. So that's kind of what they 168 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: called the K shaped recovery. And uh, and I think 169 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: when you have, oh, we've got record numbers of travelers. 170 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: But I also heard mark in your in your news 171 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: how many people are expecting a recession in the coming year. Well, 172 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: by by some estimates, half the country is already in one. 173 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: It just depends on what you're reading. I think that 174 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: the recovery is more pear shaped than K shaped, like 175 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: we're getting squatted on to the bottom. 176 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: Is that right, something like that. Yeah, It's just it's 177 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: remarkable to me. 178 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: And I wonder how many people, if you were to 179 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: interview people traveling, how do they think the following year 180 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: is going to be for them? And I kind of 181 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: wonder if they're thinking, Oh, I think I'm gonna be okay, 182 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: I can weather the storm. So when we say half 183 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: the country is in a recession, I know that's state 184 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 3: by state breakdown based on GDP and cost and blackah 185 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. 186 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: All the economist stuff. 187 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: But honestly, I think it's almost a division between the 188 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: haves and the have nots. So you've got half the 189 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: country that feels Okay, I'm stable in my job, I 190 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: have a little bit of savings, I'm not sweating it 191 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: too bad. 192 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: Then you've got the other half that goes, I'm struggling. 193 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: I haven't found a job, nobody's hiring, and so I 194 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: think I think we can almost look at that at 195 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: the kitchen table, right Main Street versus Wall Street. We go, man, 196 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: this this is Yeah. Half the country is in a 197 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: recession right now. It's the people that have been struggling 198 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: all along. Yeah, it's kind of weird the way it's 199 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: spread around. Like Idaho, for instance, obviously a red state 200 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: and they tend to be the poorest states, but Idaho 201 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: is one of the states that is not now experience. 202 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah they're doing well. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it's weird, weird all. 203 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: Right, coming up on a year since the Palisades fire, 204 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: and now somebody's ordering up emails and memos and sworn 205 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: statements and you may end up footing part of the bill. 206 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: You're gonna find out who's digging for dirt next. I'm 207 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: Chris Maryland. 208 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 209 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: So what are we at now we're at about a year, 210 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: not quite a year or two eleven months, I guess, 211 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: since the Palisades Fire and the Eaton fire, and of 212 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: course we got the arrest and the Palisades fire, nobody's 213 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: gonna get arrested in the Eating fire because it sounds 214 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: like that's gonna be the power company. 215 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: And I mean. 216 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: Lord knows you can't hold any sort of corporation responsible 217 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: for destroying lives and homes. But if we find out 218 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: that there was an individual that started the fire, then. 219 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: We go, well, yeah, we lock them up anyway. 220 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: So we got a judge now on this case that 221 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: is saying he wants he wants more deats on it. 222 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: He's he wants to try to piece together a timeline. 223 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 9: On this Palisades fire. 224 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 10: Victim's attorney Alex Robertson says it's a major win that 225 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 10: he says he hopes leads to answers about why the 226 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 10: Lackman fire that burned January first and appeared to be 227 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 10: out the next day wasn't fully extinguished. 228 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: NBCLA, by the way, had this story. 229 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 9: In court filings this week. 230 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 10: Robertson says, this photo showing a State parks employee. 231 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: With I can't see it. 232 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 10: It's radio firefighters at the Lackman fire scene. Appears to 233 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 10: confirm anonymous reports. He says he's heard from firefighters that 234 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 10: they were told to leave the burn area before every 235 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 10: hotspot had been put out. 236 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the defense on this is basically going to 237 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 3: say that their guy, you know, the dude that was 238 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: accused of the fire, that he uh, well, look, he 239 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 3: he started the Lachman fire, right, like, we get that. 240 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: But you can't throw him away for for life on 241 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 3: this because he didn't he didn't do the whole thing. 242 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: He just did this fire that just did some property damage, 243 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: just some some simple damage here that got put out. 244 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, you can find him for that and if 245 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: you have to give him a little bit of time 246 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 3: to do it, but you can't hold him responsible. 247 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: For the whole thing. 248 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: It's Jonathan rinder Neckt you're talking about. 249 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you. I can't say his name. So that 250 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: rendered it? So anyway? Uh where was I? Damn Nikki? 251 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 5: Sorry? Were you talking about it? Build? It just burns 252 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 5: some structures to fire the right. 253 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: It didn't do much right, the lack ofman fire, but 254 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: then it resparked. It rekindled. 255 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: But I come back to this and and and that 256 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: is that if if I'm driving drunk and I and 257 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: I hit you, and uh, and I and I put 258 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: you or your spouse or your kids in the ICU, 259 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: and then they start to they start to recover, they 260 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: start to do better, right, They're doing better. Oh, this 261 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: is great, And then all of a sudden, a few 262 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: days later, they take a turn for the worst. You know, 263 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: the doctors say, okay, well we're gonna get out of 264 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: ICU and we're gonna have you with a regular bed, 265 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: and then they take a turn for the worst, and 266 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: then they end up dying of their injuries. 267 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: It's the other doctor's fault. I was the drunk driver, right, 268 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: So that's kind of my thing here. 269 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: Like, look, they're gonna say that it was irresponsible by 270 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: the parks and by the firefighters who abandon the efforts 271 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 3: to further quell this fire. But I don't know if 272 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: I'm on the jury. I keep coming back to that. 273 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: This video obtained by his law I can't see it. 274 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: It's radio off firm taken. 275 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 10: By a Palisades resident on January second or third, appears 276 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 10: to show wisps of smoke still coming from the ground 277 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 10: in the burn area. The state has now turned over 278 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 10: the names of its employees who were there, and Robertson 279 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 10: says he'll now be able to ask them questions under oath. 280 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: We've heard reports. That's fair. 281 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, your defense attorney, I think you should do 282 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: everything you can to defend your client. I'm just telling 283 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: you my perspective on this. But I also think that 284 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: he should have the most robust defense possible because I 285 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: believe in America still what a sucker I am. 286 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 8: They showed the maps and there were certain exclusionary areas 287 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 8: of sensitive species of plants that the firefighters were told 288 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 8: they couldn't go and dig up. 289 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: That is so California, and. 290 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 8: I think that could have very well explained why hot 291 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 8: embers were left in place that later rekindled in the 292 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 8: Palisades firm. 293 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 9: The judge today also allowed the depositions help. 294 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 2: My client's not guilty. The environmentalists are. 295 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 10: The judge today also allowed the depositions of a dozen 296 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 10: LA Fire Department firefighters who were there. They may include 297 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 10: the firefighters who exchanged text messages about why the Lackman 298 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 10: fire mop up was allegedly cut short. Now the subject 299 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,119 Speaker 10: of a Justice Department subpoena. 300 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 8: They may have been told by state parks people that 301 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 8: they couldn't do it overhaul and the entire burnscar area. 302 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 8: And that's why we want to take the depositions and 303 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 8: get the truth. 304 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: Here's and I am of course mocking that it's such 305 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: a California thing to say, oh, well, we can't continue 306 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 3: to fight fires because we don't want you to disturb 307 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: these plants. But obviously we know how it turns out. 308 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: So which is worse? You trample a few plants or 309 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: you wipe out the entire. 310 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: What is it? Garden orchard? What planty area? I mean, 311 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: what's what makes where's the common sense in all of this? 312 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 10: Federal secutors have charged twenty nine year old Jonathan Rinder 313 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 10: Kinesh with see he. 314 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 5: Said render Kinesh, he said it wrong that. 315 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 10: Causing the Lackman fire, and the ATF says it concluded 316 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 10: underground embers from that fire reignited and caused the Palisades fire. 317 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 10: The Lackman fire burn area includes areas within La city 318 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 10: limits and land that's also part of Tapega State Park, 319 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 10: which is why state park employees were involved. 320 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and have we not been worried about the plants. 321 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: Then we wouldn't even be talking about water pressure and 322 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: tanks up high. You know, still would have been hanging 323 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: out there and waiting for the next disaster. 324 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: But we wouldn't have lost all those homes. 325 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: Potentially, I don't know for sure, but I can't can't 326 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: prove some can't prove a negative kind of just seems 327 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: so strange, like, oh, hang on, don't disturb the soil. 328 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 329 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: Oh, we have to set priorities here. Priorities have to 330 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: be safety first. Safety, that's it, okay, but the plants. Look, 331 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: I'm all for protecting the plants. I love protecting the plants. 332 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: I volunteer at the state park. It's my thing. But 333 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: I also want the state park to be there tomorrow. 334 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: It's just it feels like we're just lacking basic common 335 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: sense on these things. Still to come rather grim discovery, 336 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: although not as grim when a dead body doesn't seem 337 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: quite so bad. I guess weird breaking news is next. 338 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm Chris Maryland. 339 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six on demand. 340 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: This this is just updated. NICKI just sent this to me. Producer. 341 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: NICKI sent it to me. 342 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: Carolyn Livitz, a family member abruptly arrested by ICE after 343 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: living in the US for decades. So her nephew's mama, 344 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 3: in other words, her brother's acts think they were married. 345 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: She was here as a as a doctor recipient, a 346 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: mother of the eleven year old nephew of Caroline Levitt, 347 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 3: and the brother has since remarried. But I guess it's 348 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: stayed close with the baby mama and she just got 349 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: taken into custody. So well, there you go. I don't 350 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: know how you want to you want to wrap that up, 351 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: you want to call it irony, whatever. 352 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 6: I just wonder what she did to get taken by ICE, 353 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 6: because they seem to be going after people who've committed some. 354 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: No they're not, No, they're not. 355 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 5: They really if you. 356 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 6: Read a lot of the articles that come out about 357 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 6: people who suddenly nabbed, when you read down a few 358 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 6: paragraphs to go, oh, they did this decades ago and 359 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 6: they were given an order of removal in two thousand 360 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 6: and four. That's usually the case. So I wonder what 361 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 6: this one did. 362 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: Hang on just being for me, Nikki, just bring it 363 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: real quick. 364 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: Just find out what the ratio is, because I think 365 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 3: it's something like thirty percent don't have any other any 366 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: other record. Maybe it's not quite that high, but it's 367 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 3: you don't have you just And the thing is too 368 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: with the Dacca recipients, we thought, oh, you're here for Daka. 369 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: You know, you basically got the whole. I don't know 370 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 3: what you want to call it a sympathy card, but 371 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 3: it's like your parents brought you here and we're not 372 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: gonna just boot you out of the only country you knew, 373 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: but now we are. 374 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna go ahead do that anyhow. Uh Oh, 375 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: you ever have a sitch where you go, oh my gosh, 376 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: it's the dead body. Yeah, but it could be worse. Yeah. 377 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: So this whole story around the singer David and the 378 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 3: girl that was found in the trunk of his tesla 379 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: so weird. Evidently the story had some I don't know 380 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: if we wanna call it misreporting, but it seems like 381 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: there's miss misreporting. For a long time, we were hearing 382 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: about this this young girl that is a teenager who 383 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: was found body was found in the trunk of this 384 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: tesla and like an impound yard or something, and we 385 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: were getting these reports that she had been frozen and decapitated, they. 386 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: Said, but they're not really going a homicide yet, and 387 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: we won Wait a minute, does she accidentally freeze and 388 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: cut her own head off? Because that and throw herself 389 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: in a trunk. 390 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: Because that seems weird, sounds like maybe some of the 391 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: reporting is different. 392 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 11: We have breaking news right now in the case of 393 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 11: the girl found dead and singer David's car. The LAPD 394 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 11: is saying they have evidence that David traveled to the 395 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 11: Santa Barbara area sometime during spring of this year. The 396 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 11: reason for the trip is still under investigation, including if 397 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 11: at all it. 398 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 5: Is relevant to the case. 399 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 11: Police also saying today the reports of Celestri Vus Hernande's 400 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 11: body being frozen and decapitated are not true. In September, 401 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 11: the teen's body was discovered at a tow yard in 402 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 11: Testsa belonging to the singer. And we have previously reported 403 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 11: sources telling Eyewitness News that David is considered a suspect. 404 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so there you go. 405 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: Not decapitated and frozen, all right, Okay, there it is. 406 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: Let me see only five This is from the Cato Institute, 407 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: which is kind of a libertarian leading group. Only five 408 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: percent of individuals booked into ice attention had a violent 409 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 3: criminal conviction. Last fiscal year, seventy three percent had no 410 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: conviction at all. Others had traffic convictions, property convictions or 411 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: whatever and other. So that's from the Cato Institute. Doesn't 412 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: mean they weren't arrested or detained for some of the reason, 413 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: but no convictions. 414 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: So there you go, there you go. I don't know 415 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: what news stories you're reading, Nikki. 416 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 5: I read everything. 417 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: I know you do. I'll give you credit for that 418 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: you do, all right. So now that we found out 419 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: that it's not like this, this team wasn't decapitated, she 420 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: wasn't frozen. What then. 421 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: Are we still looking at this singer David as a suspect. 422 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: This from Katie La. 423 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 12: As the LAPD zeroes in on possible suspects in the 424 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 12: death of fourteen year old Celeste Riva Hernandez. Investigat have 425 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 12: obtained a court order to keep the autopsy report in 426 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 12: the case secret. 427 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but now we know that she was not frozen. 428 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 13: Which tells me that the findings are there. They know 429 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 13: the report is complete. 430 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 12: Former LAPD detective Moses Castillo tells kt LA that still 431 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 12: means the cause of death could be determined or undetermined. 432 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 13: The reason why they don't want to they don't want 433 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 13: to release that piece of information is because then it 434 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 13: tells the suspect or suspects involved what's out there, and 435 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 13: they definitely don't want them to know what's out there. 436 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 12: Be Eleven weeks after the teen was found dead in 437 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 12: the trunk of a tesla owned by singer David Lapd 438 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 12: is withholding information. They have not made any arrest or 439 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 12: commented publicly on the case, and now they are concealing 440 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 12: the possible cause of death, a move criticized by the 441 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 12: La County Chief Medical Examiner. 442 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, so is it a homicide or not? How does 443 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: somebody get in the trunk of the car. 444 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 12: In a statement, he said, the practice of security holds 445 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 12: is virtually unheard of in other counties. We are dedicated 446 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 12: to serving our community with full transparency. However, the law 447 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 12: precludes us from doing so while the court order remains 448 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 12: in this case. There have been some wild media reports 449 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 12: about the case, including that the victim's body was partially 450 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 12: frozen when she was found, something Castillo says. The commanding 451 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 12: officer for the Lapd Robbery Homicide Division has denied. 452 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 13: Saying this in the summer, I mean she's been out 453 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 13: there for weeks. To think it was frozen, It doesn't 454 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 13: make sense. 455 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 12: The girl's body is found in September and the tesla 456 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 12: impounded at a Hollywood tow yard. Defense attorney Mark Geragos, 457 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 12: who is not connected to the case. 458 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: Oh, Mark Geragos in the commentary that's great. 459 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 12: Says police now are investigating a trip that David took 460 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 12: to a remote area of Santa Barbara County around the 461 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 12: same time they believe Rivas Hernandez died. 462 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: So that seems not great. Yeah, seems not great, all right? 463 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 4: From the talkbacks, Oh, this poor, this poor brit she 464 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: doesn't realize she's going against like a rabid liberal. He's 465 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: like super hi undred the collar right now. He has 466 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: to prove her wrong even though she's right. 467 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: Oh you hear that, Nikki, you're a Brit, You poor brit. 468 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: That's just really your poor brick. I'm a rabbit Liberal 469 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: and your poor brick. So he nailed it. 470 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 5: Is he talking about Ali the action? 471 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, no, he's talking about you, he said. 472 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: She doesn't realize. 473 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, tend to do illegal things, right, Mark? 474 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So I pulled up the Cato Institute, 475 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 3: the right leaning institute. 476 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 2: What'd you find, Nikki? 477 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 6: I mean, I sent you something that kind of agrees 478 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 6: with you, but I don't buy it. 479 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: Oh okay, Oh man, I got another one. Oh, this 480 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: guy is great. I don't know if it's a guy 481 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 3: or not. 482 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 2: Yes, the guy. 483 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: Oh, I got to clean this up. All kinds of 484 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: swear words all over this one. I'm going to clean 485 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: it up. A lot of people supporting you, even though 486 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: you found data that supports my position. 487 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: But that's great. I'd love it. Let's let your feelings 488 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 2: drive your facts. I love it. 489 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 3: You'll hear more on the talk back in just a moment. Hey, 490 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 3: we are still a hear from the midterms, and already 491 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: you got a billion dollar donor waving the white flag. 492 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: He's now backing someone else who's going to get the 493 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: cash and the clearer path that is next. 494 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: Chris Meryl, you're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand. 495 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: Breaking news. 496 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: Carolyn Levitt's nephew's mama, her brother's baby mama. 497 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: I just got arrested by I. She've been here as 498 00:23:59,320 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: a doctor RICID. 499 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 3: So the Nikki was like, oh no, most of I 500 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: wonder what she did because they only arrest criminals. 501 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: I was like, I think that's actually been kind of 502 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: a thing. 503 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 6: Do you think I'm going to get deported from my 504 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 6: traffic violation? 505 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 10: Uh? 506 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you obviously broke the law. Yeah, but I'm 507 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: did you plead guilty? 508 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: I haven't paid the ticket yet, but I got well. 509 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: Don't because as soon as you do, you're out of here. 510 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 3: Of course, if you don't, then you're a fugitive. So yeah, 511 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: you're basically out. 512 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 5: I'm screwedy the way I know, but I'm vetted. 513 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 2: That was before the ticket. I have some numbers for you. 514 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: If you're interested, this will be good. 515 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 3: Go on then, Mark, so hey, just before we get 516 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: going here, I did say convicted, and there are some 517 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: that have been like arrested but not convicted. 518 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: And it was the Cato Institute that came up that 519 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: I found the numbers on. What'd you find? Mark? 520 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 3: Approximately thirty to thirty five percent of ICE arrests are 521 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: of individuals with criminal convictions, while the majority are not. 522 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 3: Recent data from fiscal year twenty twenty four shows that 523 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: seventy one point seven of those arrested by ICE had 524 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 3: criminal convictions are pending charges. All sources like the American 525 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 3: Immigration Council and TRACK have stated that in recent years 526 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 3: the percentage of arrest with criminal records has dropped significantly, 527 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: and a large portion of those taking into detention have 528 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 3: no criminal convictions. 529 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: So little up, a little down, but apparently little up, 530 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: little down. 531 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: The latest is that the vast majority do not have 532 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: criminal convictions. 533 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 6: But I mean, coming to the country illegally in the 534 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 6: first place is an illegal act. And yours coming from 535 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 6: a person who was completely vetted to get into this end, 536 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 6: you're right about that. 537 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: That is an illegal act. It is. 538 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: It's a misdemeanor, but you're right, it is an illegal act. 539 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: I grant you that. 540 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 3: And they if they're deported to come back again that 541 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: it's a felony I totally agree with. 542 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 6: And I'll let you even on a little maybe it's 543 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 6: not such a secret. But people who've been vetted to 544 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 6: come into this country, in other words, lawful, lawful nas 545 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 6: We don't really care for the illegals that we don't 546 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 6: support them. 547 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: We don't support that. 548 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: No, because you went through the you went through the 549 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 2: whole system. 550 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 6: I had to have a genital check, you know, Oh 551 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 6: my gosh, I had to take vaccines, and I had. 552 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: To do get oh, did you use your IMA? 553 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 5: Then I did everything. 554 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 6: I had to have background screenings for every other country. 555 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 3: Ever, look, I'm not debating any of that. I totally 556 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: get it. I totally get it. But like you know, 557 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: you got a doctor recipient who doesn't have any other 558 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: criminal record, actually didn't break the law of their parents 559 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: brought him in the country, and she's been arrested. 560 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 6: Why didn't she get her US citizenship in the last 561 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 6: twenty five years that she's. 562 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: Been So that actually has been an issue is that 563 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 3: the doctor recipients basically were it became like a big hassle. 564 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 2: This is this is this is something that goes back. 565 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: You said twenty five years. This goes back. They were arguing. 566 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: You have to understand that in the in the nineteen 567 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 3: eighty presidential primary debate between Reagan and Bush, they were 568 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: arguing over who was going to be kinder to people 569 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: in this country without documentation, and that's how we ended 570 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: up with amnesty under Reagan. 571 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: And then you end up with this. 572 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: DACA thing and they're like, well, you can be a DACA, 573 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: but if your DACA, then where are you as far 574 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: as the pathway to citizenship? And you hear pathway to 575 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 3: citizenship has been this big debate for a very long time. 576 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: So then you end up with people who are dividing, 577 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: because that's where we are in this country now, where 578 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: you're either all in or you're all out right. 579 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: So then you end up with the group that's build 580 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: a wall to port them all. 581 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: You end up with this other group that goes and 582 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 3: this is where the Democrats have really they overplayed their 583 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 3: hand the other direction. They were like, oh, we have 584 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: to have pathway to citizenship for everyone, and it was like, 585 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: wait a minute, hang on here, It's is fine, there's 586 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: got to be there's gotta be a middle ground here. 587 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 3: Evidently the middle ground doesn't call the station because I 588 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 3: got this. 589 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 4: Well at least extremely transparent today. I mean, you are 590 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 4: a piece of the way you just spoke to that. 591 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: Chick, Nikki. You're a chick. Me. Yeah, you're the chick. 592 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 4: Who has more culture and sophistication than you ever would. 593 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: You're such a piece of want we go back to 594 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 4: where you came from and try that callie there. 595 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 2: Wow, go back. Okay, First of all, I love that 596 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: he's he's talking about culture and sophistication and called me 597 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: an f ing piece of s and a and a 598 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: P word, which is great because at least Trump would 599 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: grab me. And then he tells me to go back 600 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 2: to where I came from. Just try it there, like yeah, 601 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: like the. 602 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: Midwest, right, Okay, all right, well that's fun. 603 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: I told you. 604 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 3: I feel stimulated. Meanwhile, the governor race is shifting. We 605 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: just had somebody drop out. He was on with Alex Michelson, 606 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: Michael Micklesoner, Michaelson. I would say it wrong. Whichever way 607 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: it is, I always say the other way. Anyways, on 608 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: with Alex. 609 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: So you're dropping out of the race. I am dropping 610 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: out of the race. That's Stephen Klubak, who was on 611 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: with me before when I was doing this show. 612 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: And supporting Eric Swalwell as the next governor of California. 613 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: And he will be the greatest leader of this great 614 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: state California. So and with that, God, Katie, Porter's got 615 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: to be just dying right now. 616 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 9: You know, I've been with you and I brought props. 617 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: You like a good prop. I like a good prop. 618 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: But I have this pen that I had made. 619 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: It's golden bad It's the Golden Bear, and I give 620 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: it to you as I wore it proudly, and I 621 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: want you to wear it proudly. 622 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. 623 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh god, yeah, I will say this and this 624 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: is interesting. Uh swell well, according to Kelshi, today has 625 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: basically fallen off a cliff. He was a pretty pretty 626 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: big favorite. Now Kelshi, betters are shifting things. Tom Steyer 627 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: took a big jump. So Tom Steyer today leapt up 628 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: in the Calshi's where you can. 629 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: Bet on anything, you know. 630 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: And so they've got the Tom Steyer Swallowell twenty six 631 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 3: percent chance, Stier twenty four percent chance, Katie Poor at 632 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: twelve percent on the latest from Kelshi. 633 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: There you go a little shake up. I don't know. 634 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: Maybe they think the CLUBEC endorsement hurts him. I don't 635 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: know that it does. Meanwhile, we've got all kinds of 636 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: shenanigans going on in DC and in the last In 637 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 3: the last administration, we would call it law fair. In 638 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: this administration, we call it rooting out the bad people. 639 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm so confused as to how I'm supposed to look 640 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: at this investigations into senators next Chris Meryll 641 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty on demand