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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since E three sixty about Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: From Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: All right, it's our number two. It's a Friday afternoon,

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Speaker 4: which means we really don't need an introduction for our

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Speaker 4: next guest joining us each and every Friday all over

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Speaker 4: Red Spring training. Right now? Is our good friend Charlie

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Speaker 4: Goldsmith kind enough to join us? Right now? Charlie? What's

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Speaker 4: going on? How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 4: How are you great? Great? Let's talk about where this

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Speaker 4: team is at. We've seen them in a couple spring

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Speaker 4: training game opportunities. Now, what have been some things that

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Speaker 4: have stood out to you so far with this Reds team.

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Speaker 5: I could talk specifically about any player, but something that's

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Speaker 5: fascinated me really this year is just the way that

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Speaker 5: Terry Francona is talking about these spring training games. So

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Speaker 5: like yesterday, like you would think the thing that mattered

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Speaker 5: and stood out the most would be Spurns and what

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Speaker 5: he was doing and how he was looking. But the

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Speaker 5: things that Terry Francona really had on his mind postgame

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Speaker 5: it again this morning were base running reads were challenges,

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Speaker 5: and then key at bats and a big day from

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Speaker 5: Tyler Callahan that won the red that game, and in

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Speaker 5: a grand scheme of things in the big picture, what

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Speaker 5: matters most from yesterday probably is Burns. But it's refreshing,

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Speaker 5: it's different. I think it's a key part of like

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Speaker 5: what makes francona kind of the philosophy and style that

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Speaker 5: he has, is he where his mind really is at

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Speaker 5: is those little things, and I think that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: It is hard to overlook, though, what we've seen so

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Speaker 4: far from Chase Burns. What have been your takeaways in

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Speaker 4: watching this up and coming star for the Reds.

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Speaker 5: His slaughter yesterday might have been the best I've ever

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Speaker 5: seen it. Regular seasons, bring training, bullpen anywhere. Like the

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Speaker 5: swings that he got in the first inning for a

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Speaker 5: man in the Chada and Fernando Takee Junior incredible, just

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Speaker 5: truly incredible. And that's the upside. And then he's also

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Speaker 5: the change up well now, the fastball command hasn't been

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Speaker 5: there this spring. Was better in Game two than it

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Speaker 5: was in Game one. Sometimes you would worry about that.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes he wouldn't. Because Burns has a real significant track

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Speaker 5: record to the picture of not being a guy who

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Speaker 5: struggles with command and a guy who does throw a

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Speaker 5: lot of strikes. If you'll call that control not command,

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Speaker 5: that's the difference there. He has great control and he

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Speaker 5: throws a lot of strikes, So I see it in

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Speaker 5: Francona said it as well. He's a young guy, but

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Speaker 5: he still needs spring training and that fastball command's kind

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Speaker 5: of in the area we'll all have to develop to

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Speaker 5: really get that timing down.

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Speaker 1: What do you think has been the reason that the

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Speaker 1: slider has has gotten so much better? Is there anything

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Speaker 1: that Burns has kind of pointed to as to why

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Speaker 1: that pitch is improving the way it is.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing not to get into twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: four MLB mock draft talk, but there was some surprise,

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Speaker 5: at least externally, when the Reds took Burns when they

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Speaker 5: did where he did, he wasn't necessarily projected to go

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Speaker 5: that high. Well, the Reds saws, they said, we think

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Speaker 5: your slider is awesome, and other teams were like, your

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Speaker 5: slider's okay, your slider solid, and the red We're right,

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Speaker 5: this slider was awesome. And he came up as a

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Speaker 5: rookie and was unbelievable, threw a bunch of sliders, threw

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Speaker 5: it past Aaron Judge and all those guys. So the

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Speaker 5: Reds have always been like the believers in the slider

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Speaker 5: and they got that one right. And it looks even better.

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Speaker 4: Now the walks that we've seen. And I know it's

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Speaker 4: spring training and you don't want to you don't want

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Speaker 4: to look too much into anything. Should we be concerned

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Speaker 4: at all about the number of walks in some of

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Speaker 5: And no, I just view that as the fastball. Now

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Speaker 5: there might be a side of it with burns where

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Speaker 5: it's like, you know, throw your best pitch. You don't

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Speaker 5: have to throw your best pitch, trust your stuff and

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Speaker 5: get ahead of the count. But to me, when you

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Speaker 5: look at again his track record of being a strike thrower,

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Speaker 5: when I look at him this spring, I just view

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Speaker 5: that as more getting a pitch and timing down as

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Speaker 5: opposed to you might say this about some other guys,

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Speaker 5: and I think you would say it about some other guys.

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Speaker 5: I don't see him as a guy who you're walked

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Speaker 4: A guy that I know? Austin, did you want to astolt?

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Speaker 4: You do, Austin? Do you want to ask you about

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Speaker 4: Grime Ashcraft. No I have.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I have any questions about it.

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Speaker 1: He's it's spring training. I'm sure he's working on things.

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Speaker 1: It's been a rough start. I think we can all

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Speaker 1: agree on that, but I don't know what he's working on. Charlie,

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Speaker 1: do you know what he's working on?

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Speaker 5: I mean the inning yesterday got away from him when

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Speaker 5: Cam Collyer is actually much better than I thought he'd

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Speaker 5: be defensively, but there was a play where I think

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Speaker 5: Cam is trying to show how good he is defensively,

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Speaker 5: and more power to him, but he dove in front

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Speaker 5: of Edwin Royo on a ball he shouldn't have, and

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Speaker 5: you know, you got no play, no out, and then

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Speaker 5: I believe the next play was a double play that

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Speaker 5: the inning kind of unraveled from there. So I look

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Speaker 5: at that as more of an inning that was by defense.

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Speaker 5: I believe a ball also help a bag in that inning.

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Speaker 5: But then he is a guy one hundred percent where

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Speaker 5: you want to see that control. You want to see

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Speaker 5: filling up the zone and if that's not there in spring.

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Speaker 5: Maybe you spend a little more time focusing on that.

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Speaker 1: Much more important than anything Graham Ashcraft does on the mound, Charlie,

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Speaker 1: is the style of pants that Matt McLean is wearing.

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Speaker 1: I understand that you've been working on this. Have you

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Speaker 1: learned anything about McLean's new style?

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Speaker 5: So here's the behind the scenes of like my morning

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Speaker 5: in the clubhouse this morning. So I interviewed Ellie first,

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Speaker 5: just for I wrote about it this morning, just he's healthy,

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Speaker 5: good spring. And then I said, oh yeah, and by

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Speaker 5: the way, you know, what do you think of that?

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Speaker 5: We're in long pence now? And Ellie said, I've been

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Speaker 5: telling him this for years and I might mess up

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Speaker 5: the quote, but he's like long pants, more flow, more

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Speaker 5: And it was such a strong answer that I said,

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Speaker 5: you know what, I think that's all I need to know.

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Speaker 5: I don't need to need that. I mean, there's your answer.

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Speaker 5: I couldn't you know, Matt can't say it any better

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Speaker 4: Deli Dela Cruz, speaking of Ellie de la Cruz. A

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Speaker 4: very good start to the spring. We've seen a little

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Speaker 4: bit of everything. Charlie Devil's triple, the power with the

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Speaker 5: He's healthy that you know, we talked about it all

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Speaker 5: last season, you know, I kind of haven't planted that

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Speaker 5: much about it yet as I should haven't. I realized

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Speaker 5: that yesterday, just walking those two beautiful opposite field hits

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Speaker 5: extra bases, each one of them, Like that was the

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Speaker 5: moment where I realized, like, that's it. That's what he

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Speaker 5: I got depth for him last year, and seeing that

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Speaker 5: all about when he's been healthy. And he's completely healthy

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Speaker 5: right now, and the Red really excited about it, and

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Speaker 5: so is Ellie. He told me, I have felt all

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Speaker 5: of my hard work that I've spent rehabbing and training

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Speaker 1: With Ellie and with McClain, they both have had really

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Speaker 1: good starts to the spring at the plate. To play

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Speaker 1: devil's advocate here, they were both really good at the

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Speaker 1: plate in spring last year. And we are not always facing,

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Speaker 1: you know, the best pitching that these other teams have

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Speaker 1: to show in spring training, So do we take it

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Speaker 5: I've decided that I'm just not going to read anything

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Speaker 5: in the mass spring training and really until like May,

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Speaker 5: I just don't feel like I'm going to be able

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Speaker 5: to make any real evaluation. Wore McLain's at UIs as

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Speaker 5: shuckled the most last season was he's like one of

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Speaker 5: the better grinders in baseball. You know, he's just a

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Speaker 5: was that grind last season where upselt like, really the

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Speaker 5: impact of coming back off that injury cut up to

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Speaker 4: Answer we won't have until men south Stewart. I know

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Speaker 4: also saw him turn on an inside pitch and hit

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that homer is really impressive. You know, guys really

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Speaker 5: don't do that. Sal's a guy who is so old

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Speaker 5: schooled and you know his approach. He would he would

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Speaker 5: never come across as a guy who sells out for power.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't. That's not his game. To be reminded. Oh,

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Speaker 5: by the way he can deliver that type of swing

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Speaker 5: thing with him all spring is going to be first

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Speaker 5: On my memory right now, it's been very clean and

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Speaker 5: successful so far. Absolutely, and they just did their hardest

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Speaker 5: drill of the offseason of the spring. It's a huge tradition.

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Speaker 5: It's called twenty seven outs, and Freddy Betavidez called out

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Speaker 5: specific situations two outs run around third, seven inning, We're

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Speaker 5: got to make plays. And Salz just made like the

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Speaker 5: huge clutch play at first to win twenty seven outs.

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Speaker 5: So good job for him there. But tracking his first

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Speaker 5: base defense all spring, that'll be the big thing with him.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of the thing he has to prove.

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Speaker 1: I know you wrote about TJ. Friedel getting some spots

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Speaker 1: in left field. I know he started yesterday. Is there

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Speaker 1: a timeline on when we'll see Spencer Steer in the

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Speaker 5: I asked Karry Francona that this morning, because he's been

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Speaker 5: playing first and he's a guy who I expected to

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Speaker 5: play maybe the third or fourth most games at first

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Speaker 5: of the Red this year. Car Francona said, his strategy

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Speaker 5: but like you reminded me of like last year, Gavin Luck,

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Speaker 5: trying to program your show. You could do a full

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Speaker 1: Well, feel free to if you have any segment ideas.

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Speaker 5: You guys are doing.

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Speaker 5: That ties them?

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Speaker 1: The one thing I can't stop thinking about from when

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Speaker 1: The next time we talked to you, Charlie, the deadline

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Speaker 5: Sure they might not be there yet, they might not

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Speaker 5: DJ Turner, maybe Chase Brown. Well, now you're rolling because

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Speaker 5: that doesn't take away from your compick. So now are

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Speaker 5: they there yet at a point where they can just

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Speaker 5: live through extensions and not do as much in free agency. No,

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Speaker 5: but that's what they're trying to get.

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Speaker 1: How many times have you mixed up Chase Brown and

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Speaker 1: Chase Burns over the last week.

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Speaker 5: It's happening a lot. It's happening a lot, and I'm

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Speaker 5: worried about it. The hardest one I always say was

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Speaker 5: Jesse winker with and with no I versus Jesse Bates.

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Speaker 4: Whom I yeah, Charlie for our beloved Bearcats. Uh oh,

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Speaker 4: if we can win the final three of the regular

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Speaker 4: season and win two in the Big Twelve tournament, can

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Speaker 4: we hear our names on Selection Sunday?

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Speaker 5: The Bearcats are program still with strong loyal believers who

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Speaker 5: are just ready and waiting for a winner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Like, this isn't an original take, but the standard should

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Speaker 5: be hired in this. The team should be better than this.

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Speaker 5: I hope that they can always for the rest of

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Speaker 5: their life. Everyone on this team, you know, Jalen Cella's team,

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Speaker 5: look back at that Kansas win. Anything that happens from

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Speaker 5: here does not take away from what that Kansas win

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Speaker 5: can mean to these guys as individuals. But I don't

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Speaker 5: I'm still excited to watch, and I appreciate the way

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Speaker 5: this team's fought, but I think.

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Speaker 4: We this season is fair enough. Charlie, you are our

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Speaker 4: force multiplier on Fridays. We appreciate you. What's the easiest

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Speaker 4: way to follow along with everything you got going on?

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Speaker 5: Charlie Schockport on Substack on Fox nineteen got the Power

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Speaker 5: Stacks podcast is well, it's a fun time of year.

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Speaker 4: Love it, Charlie Man, see you guys, Charlie Goldsmith, there

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Speaker 4: he is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think officially listed as an executive producer

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Speaker 1: there's a that's a perfect example.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: That literally is a perfect example. You could do it

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Speaker 1: entire same. Okay, we will deal abs segment every day.

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Speaker 1: That's something else that won't get sponsored.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Charlie. Your talkbacks also non sponsored. Next ESPN

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Speaker 6: Hey, Alexa, hoot backs, Press the microphone and record your

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Speaker 6: message for Austin in tone, Please keep it clean and

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Speaker 6: don't be mean and a sprinkle sprinkle drip drifts. It's

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Speaker 2: So Austin, Buddy, play those.

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Speaker 6: Talkbacks on your screen, and please try not to sabotage it.

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Speaker 4: Is you, the listener's opportunity to voice whatever you'd like

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Speaker 4: is talkbacks, and they happen right now. A quick piece

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Speaker 4: of information before we get to them. It was approved

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Speaker 4: this morning by the Miami Diversity Board of Trustees or

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Speaker 4: whoever it is that votes on that stuff, the new

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of students very unhappy about it,

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Speaker 1: alumni very unhappy about it. But I do think it'll

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Speaker 1: end up being a net positive.

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Speaker 5: YEP.

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Speaker 4: I needed one of these days. Johnny mort.

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Speaker 7: Have they admired Zach Taylor yet?

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Speaker 3: The gross streets.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's gotta be my He might be my

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Speaker 1: favorite listener.

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Speaker 4: Just you think Sheila Gray ever listens like what is

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Speaker 4: going on the six forty.

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Speaker 1: I actually told Sheila about this recently. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if you know this

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Speaker 1: or not, but you're like kind of a star of

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Speaker 1: our show. We have this guy who just puts your

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Speaker 1: name's songs all the time. She was honored by it.

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Speaker 4: Good. I don't know if she'd be honored if she

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Speaker 4: heard him, but she was honored.

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, Marcus, since the announcement is now official that

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Speaker 8: you guys are going back to smoke Justice on opening

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Speaker 8: day if it's a allowed, I think a great idea

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Speaker 8: would to get talkback joe Zerahwson to come and when

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Speaker 8: the opening day lineup is announced on air and announced

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Speaker 8: the lineup.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a really good idea. Imagine. I think

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Speaker 4: that's a really good idea, and Red's fans to smoke Justice.

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Speaker 2: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan Wale. Things are

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Speaker 2: really heating up here at the presidential combine, wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Abe Lincoln was so fast in his one hundred yard

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Speaker 2: dash that it took his shadow two point seven seconds

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Speaker 2: to catch up.

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Speaker 4: Oh my oh.

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Speaker 2: And future defensive tackle William Howard Taft amazed everyone when

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Speaker 2: his shadow weighed in at two point seven pounds.

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Speaker 4: Oh my lord.

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Speaker 2: By the way, my favorite sports quote is, let's win

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Speaker 2: one for the Kipper.

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Speaker 4: That's a good one. That's a good one. You want

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Speaker 4: to talk about plugging up the middle? Oh, William Howard

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Speaker 4: taft Hey, Greg Sharon. If Miami would lose two of their.

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Speaker 9: Last regular season games and lost the first game in

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Speaker 9: the conference tournament, my question is, would they be in trouble?

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Speaker 4: I think they would. Yeah, if they lost three in

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Speaker 4: a row, they would make it. But I don't. I

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Speaker 4: think if they lost two, they'd be in trouble. But

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Speaker 4: I don't see him doing that.

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Speaker 5: Ope.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what the leading cause of dry skin is? Towels? Okay,

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Speaker 4: I get it. Towels. Ask kind of tree. It is

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Speaker 4: no ask people kind of tree. It is no ask

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Speaker 4: people kind of treat.

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Speaker 2: It is kind of treat, is it?

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Speaker 4: Yep? I knew we'd get there eventually, Tony. I knew

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Speaker 4: we'd get there eventually. Yeah. I think you needed that.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe your head had gotten a little bit

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Speaker 1: a big signing bonus endorsements.

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Speaker 4: That's what I need.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, brother, talk about Ruben Bain. I remember back like

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Speaker 10: a twenty two and Tyler Linda Mam was like a

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Speaker 10: he fell down at like number twenty five. I think

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Speaker 10: for the Ravens because he had short arms. They said

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Speaker 10: his arm were too short. Yeah, but the Ravens took

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Speaker 10: a chance on him in a way. And look where

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Speaker 10: he's at right now, probably the top one of the

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Speaker 10: top centers and all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope he slides down to ten down. Could

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Speaker 1: you imagine number ten Bane and Down's both there?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I would, I would? I assume, Well, I can't

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Speaker 1: assume anything. Let's assume for the moment that we're going

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Speaker 1: to be actually talking about the draft when it's happening

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Speaker 1: on the air. That would be a biggest, a huge assumption.

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Speaker 1: But I'd start drinking as soon as that, we'd start celebrating.

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Speaker 1: Might buy a round for everybody, Wow, because hell, we're

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Speaker 1: getting a game changers. Then they go and pick Caleb

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Speaker 1: Banks game day daycare.

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Speaker 4: Man, I got to pay for daycare when I go

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Speaker 4: to work. And it's not like they're paying for it

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Speaker 4: every day. You know, they make a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the paying for it's the issue. He

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Speaker 4: babysit are ten eleven times a year. I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: I think I think they would pay for it that's available. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the players would pay for it. That's the point. It's

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Speaker 1: just not available options. I mean they would put that in,

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Speaker 1: and I players would if it matters this much to them,

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Speaker 1: and with the amount of money you make, it would

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Speaker 1: gladly pay for that.

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Speaker 11: Correct up, guys the Kahuna Kentucky. I disagree with Damn Pitcher.

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Speaker 11: I like the defense. I'd like to have the defensive

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Speaker 11: mindset and be conservative. The team that makes the fewest

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Speaker 11: mistakes usually wins the game. Victory favors the team that

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Speaker 11: makes the fewest mistakes. And the you know, mistakes ain't

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Speaker 11: always turnovers, it's mental wears, the little things. I can uh,

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Speaker 11: but I mean I disagree. As a coach, you're going

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Speaker 11: to put them in a position to make the fewest mistakes,

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Speaker 11: make the simplest thing that the other team mess up.

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Speaker 4: I disagree with pitch. That's why we think.

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Speaker 1: I never know if he's point our chain or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a very bright guy. But I

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Speaker 1: will save this scared money. Don't make no money.

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Speaker 12: More and more I look at it, Sonny Styles is

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Speaker 12: probably the guy we need. We need a safety, we

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Speaker 12: need another line back. He could be Guys like a

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Speaker 12: high Ridth runs a four to four if the Bengals

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Speaker 12: want to be more explicive on first and second down,

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Speaker 12: no defense in my mind is afraid of Andre Yoshabaz.

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Speaker 12: You gotta go out there and get that that slot

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Speaker 12: receiver that someone could be afraid of. Bengals like to

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Speaker 12: run a lot of twelve personnel. So how about on

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Speaker 12: first and second down we ge Kasiki a little bit

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Speaker 12: more involved. He can be a downfield threat. He wasn't

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Speaker 12: brought in here to block. Let him Cook as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, what if you get one of the safeties

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Speaker 1: that's available, guy like Brian Cook or Kobe Bryant or

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Speaker 1: any of those guys, maybe even draft one in the

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Speaker 1: second round. Okay, but at number ten, you take Sonny

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Speaker 1: Styles and you just run Tampa two with his big

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Speaker 1: ass in the middle all day.

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Speaker 4: Now that that would reinvent the game Tampa too.

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Speaker 13: I'll tell you, Tony Austin Leroy down here in le

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Speaker 13: I think the Reds need some country hospitality. I'll be

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Speaker 13: more than happy roe my hat in the ring as

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Speaker 13: the director of player can I'll bring some moonshine, I'll

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Speaker 13: go whole hal We'll go all in it. We'll be

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Speaker 13: an eight plus by next year.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, some moonshine, some country fixings, a little

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Speaker 3: bit of southern hospitality, and we'll get that f turn

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Speaker 3: right around to an a.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, Leroy, I think you meant the Bengals okay,

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Speaker 1: and a reminder that in Fawma they do things differently.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I want to issue this as a reminder,

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Speaker 1: and I think maybe now's a good time to do it.

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Speaker 1: You can listen to the talkback before you submit it,

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Speaker 1: and I think some of you should really take advantage.

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Speaker 4: Of utilize that. Yeah, that opportunity.

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Speaker 7: This might help Austin That Dutch rub is a noogie, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I looked at up. I just didn't know if

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Speaker 4: I was allowed to say that on the air. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's how I was staying away from all.

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Speaker 9: I just like I sure hope that Styles could make

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Speaker 9: it the ten for us. Probably not, but man, that'd

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Speaker 9: be nice. I could change a whole team by himself.

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Speaker 9: I think that man is just something else.

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Speaker 4: Man'd be great to get him.

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Speaker 9: Instead, we'll probably get an offensive lineing all right, have

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Speaker 9: a good one.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna get to the point where people

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Speaker 4: are gonna be mad regarless who we take no matter what.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of noogies, I think we could get Terry Nelson

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Speaker 7: to give Wes Miller one. That seems like you'd be

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Speaker 7: the reat hype for it.

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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten one in a while since I lost

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Speaker 1: all that lettters. Maybe that's why I lost it.

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Speaker 4: I had so many of them.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, guys, Big Johne Kentucky, Sorry for the double dip,

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Speaker 14: but I just got to commend you on getting the

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Speaker 14: A list guess on today at Mike in La. I

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Speaker 14: mean that guy got six and a half minutes a

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Speaker 14: bunch of gibberis and dud drubs. I mean, what a

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Speaker 14: gas you all pulled today. I mean, not everybody's getting

656
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Speaker 14: Mike in La on. Great job, guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love when Tony just lets him go talking

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Speaker 1: about stuff we've already talked about.

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Speaker 15: Hey, guys, pull from cleaves here. Do you think Major

660
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Speaker 15: League Baseball has a person or a staff that actually tests,

661
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Speaker 15: you know, like velocity. If these young guys are throwing

662
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Speaker 15: so hard, if they crossed this threshold, they're actually gonna

663
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Speaker 15: are ruined their arm or they're gonna you know, tear

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Speaker 15: something or anything like that. You know, do you think

665
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Speaker 15: there's information out there? You know, for Major league teams

666
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Speaker 15: about that.

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Speaker 1: It would make sense, right, some sort of medical study.

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Speaker 1: I would believe that you would think that. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 15: Hey, guys, Paul from Cleaves with the double dip here, Hey,

671
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Speaker 15: just wanted to give another shout out to my son.

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Speaker 15: How you just placed second at the CHL Wrestling Championships

673
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Speaker 15: last weekend. Yeah, as a freshman, you know, one hundred

674
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Speaker 15: and eighty eight pounds wrestling two fifteen. I gotta give

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Speaker 15: him a shout out of futures looking bright. But of course, Tony,

676
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Speaker 15: you're running blue devils won the league championship for like

677
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Speaker 15: the third time in four years or something like that.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it worked. Reading wrestling is kind of like

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Speaker 4: NKU basketball when March comes around. Okay, So is that

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Speaker 4: what you guys are good at now? And not at

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Speaker 4: anything else? Everything? Everything? This is c note from n

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Speaker 4: k Y C. Trick.

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Speaker 16: I got a couple of things, Okay, get rid of

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Speaker 16: Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 16: I've never seen somebody look like they're gonna cry every

687
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Speaker 16: time they walk off the field. Secondly, go ahead, get

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Speaker 16: rid of Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 4: Akay. It seems like a bright guy here, Oh Carter

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Speaker 4: note again. I'm gonna double tip.

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Speaker 16: Okay, get rid of Hunter Green, the most overrated pitcher ever.

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Speaker 4: Oh goodness, go get a bat. Did love you guys,

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Speaker 4: listen all the time? First time talk back.

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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for leaving one. Yeah, I disagree vehemently with

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Speaker 1: your Hunter Green take. I do agree with your Trey

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Speaker 1: Henderson take, Buddy. If Hunter Green was making twenty million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year, that's a much more understandable conversation.

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Speaker 4: He ain't to George.

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Speaker 17: If the Buck guys have all these first shrubs.

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Speaker 4: We talked about this, George.

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Speaker 17: The top five, I mean, top ten, whatever it is.

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Speaker 17: I mean, how do you not question Ryan Day?

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Speaker 16: Crime?

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Speaker 17: Day can't coach.

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Speaker 4: We all know it.

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Speaker 17: That's the that's the Morrow of the story here. I mean,

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Speaker 17: he should have won the national championship this year, probably

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Speaker 17: the year before.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he did the year before. He doesn't go fire tonight.

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Speaker 4: He did win it the year before.

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Speaker 1: And while you were taking your sabbatical away from radio,

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Speaker 1: we did eviscerate Ryan Day for how badly he screwed

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Speaker 1: up in the Big Ten championship game and the college

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Speaker 1: football playoffs.

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Speaker 4: We did that, but you weren't listening. What's up guys,

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Speaker 4: TJ east Side, Happy Friday.

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Speaker 18: Hey, some of my favorite things about Sincy three sixty oh,

718
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 18: listening to Tony laid down the absolute backs, all these articulate,

719
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Speaker 18: insightful breakdowns of all things sports.

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Speaker 4: Even on those occasions when he's.

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Speaker 18: Completely erronius, it's still out and hearing the Bengals grades

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Speaker 18: of team ownership.

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Speaker 4: There is no argument that can e raise.

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Speaker 18: Spin or lay out some subterfuge of Mike Brown's thirty

725
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Speaker 18: year reign of being the exact opposite of a force multiplier.

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Speaker 4: He ain't whude you're saying, not a force multiplier, force multiplayer. Dang,

727
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Speaker 4: but that's what they're looking for.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Goldsmith is a force multiplier. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Duke Tobin. No, I mean he's yeah, I

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Speaker 2: hear he like I said, Man, I'd like to hear

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Speaker 2: him break down, John Ross break down the offensive Lineman.

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Speaker 2: Carmen Electra, let's hear.

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Speaker 4: About those break down, John.

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Speaker 2: Let's see if the Bearcats can get a victory, Go red.

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Speaker 4: Hawks, Carmen Electric. Yeah, could you imagine like it? Hey, Duke,

736
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Speaker 4: I know that we've talked about Gino Watkins and Andrew Whitworth.

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Speaker 4: Can you talk a little bit about John Ross.

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Speaker 19: It's finally clear they got to bring back the grass.

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Speaker 19: Come on, Bengals, bring back the grass. The year after

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Speaker 19: Joe Burrow had a turf toe injury, it's a perfect

741
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Speaker 19: time to bring back the grass. And also, for the

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Speaker 19: love of goodness, get them a daycare and a team

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Speaker 19: room and a point of contact. That is easy. You're

744
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Speaker 19: embarrassing us from Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Come on, come on, do the easy stuff. I would

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Speaker 4: I wish they had grass to all that. See Ruben

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Speaker 4: Bain's arm length as a detractor as a problem, as

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Speaker 4: a reason they're not drafting. I offer this, did it

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Speaker 4: hold back to t rex? I would want good point.

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Speaker 4: That's great. That might be the end all be all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you call a guy with no shims?

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Speaker 4: Tony? I get it, that's good. I get there's some

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Speaker 4: mic from LA haters. I get it. I was one

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Speaker 4: of you guys. He grew on me after a while.

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Speaker 20: And now I think about it, and I know he's

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Speaker 20: in the bad spot. When he's gone, I'm gonna miss him.

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Speaker 20: I'm gonna miss his his ten minutes feels I'm no.

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Speaker 20: And since he three six yeah, so I wish him

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Speaker 20: the best.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, this is not I'm not being critical of

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Speaker 1: Mike at all. We all feel that way, just like

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Speaker 1: every single one of us. He has good days, bad.

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Speaker 9: Joe Dogs, Brian from La, Tony, Stephanie Bucker.

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Speaker 4: Or Live Morgan, Live Morgan. I think Live Morgan takes it.

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Speaker 4: Is that a wrestling thing? Yeah, elimination Chambers.

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Speaker 12: I really got nothing to say, but I just wanted

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Speaker 12: to hear my voice on the radio and the bengalsinger

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Speaker 12: go eight and.

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Speaker 4: I get where you're coming from.

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Speaker 2: Jim.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Jim has you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: growth and development? Yeah, Jim has got you want talk about.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's very true. Tony Austin balling ain't easy.

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Speaker 4: This weather out here is freaking gorgeous.

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Speaker 19: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Get to the gym. I want to go play basketball.

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Speaker 5: Honestly.

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Speaker 4: I want to go go down to Canan Park and

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Speaker 4: chuck some threes. That's what I want to do. Maybe

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Speaker 4: I will. I need to start getting some shots up

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Speaker 4: there in preparation. You never start doing rims as well.

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Speaker 4: It would probably's book, that's for sure. It'd probably do

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Speaker 4: old balling, EA balling well to get some shots up

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Speaker 4: before the tournament, no doubt about it, No doubt about it,

785
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Speaker 4: dude about it. We'll take a break one segment when

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Speaker 4: we return, and we've got Tom Glaider, Bob Man, Jean

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Speaker 4: Mowagger and Moore coming up in our number three on

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Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station from the Johnson Heating

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Speaker 4: Temps Star Weather Center. Here's welcome back. It is since

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Speaker 4: he three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Tom Gallaird to the voice of FC Cincinnati, will join

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Speaker 4: us at the top of our number three. We didn't

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Speaker 4: mention this at the top Austin, what'd you make of

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Speaker 4: your guy Aaron Glenn yesterday at the combine hilarious. What

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Speaker 4: a bad moment if you see it. They're showing combine

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Speaker 4: drills and they flash up to the suite in which

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Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn, the coach of the Jets, is in and

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Speaker 4: there ain't no other way around it. He was sleeping.

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Speaker 4: He was asleep at the wheel and I get it.

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Speaker 4: Like combine as long days. A lot of these times,

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Speaker 4: the coaches and other executives are going out to eating

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Speaker 4: the bars, and that's where a lot of the deals

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Speaker 4: get done, they say at the combine, So I get

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Speaker 4: it late nights, early mornings, long days. It's not a

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Speaker 4: good look. And it wasn't just like it flashed on

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Speaker 4: all the TVs because you could see the screen behind

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Speaker 4: him to him on the screen, clearly sleeping, and I

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Speaker 4: can only imagine someone in the booth either hit him

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Speaker 4: or yelled at him, and he just did not do

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Speaker 4: a good job of hiding it.

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Speaker 1: When he woke up, I think somebody yelled at him

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Speaker 1: and said hey, Air, and you could tell he kind

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Speaker 1: of woke up.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 4: Had a good luck when your team didn't forced to

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Speaker 4: turn over all year and you got defensive players out

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Speaker 4: there running.

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Speaker 1: Zero interceptions for Aaron Glenn whose superpower is play calling, yep,

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Speaker 1: and is supposed to be a defensive mastermind. You know,

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Speaker 1: if that's the head coach of the Tennessee Titans or

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, maybe we don't talk about it as much.

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Speaker 4: Aha, that's funny.

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Speaker 1: But when it's the head coach of the New York Jets,

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Speaker 1: this is how my brain works. I was so jealous

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Speaker 1: of New York sports talk radio when that moment happened, yep,

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Speaker 1: because I knew that they are to have been. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: show is done. They're having a field day. This guy

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Speaker 1: is sleeping.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned the term defensive mastermind? Correct who Aaron Glenn Well? Allegedly? Well,

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Speaker 4: most things are alleged. I look at today and I

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Speaker 4: think of another defensive mastermind. We talked about twenty seven

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Speaker 4: days away from Red's opening day. How can you not

834
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Speaker 4: think of one? Scott Rowland. Well, I was thinking of

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Speaker 4: Nino bon Giovanni. Oh, they called him El Nino, didn't they.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they called him that. Oh, but

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Speaker 1: I mean you who could forget him? Sixty six games

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirty nine gamepaign yep. Six doubles for

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Speaker 1: the Reds that year.

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Speaker 4: Now, when I was a young lad, my family would

841
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Speaker 4: take me to Reds games. Really, and when I went

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Speaker 4: to growing up, I did. And when I would go

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Speaker 4: to Reds games, I would not be going to the

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Speaker 4: red Stadium. This is legit. I would be going to

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Speaker 4: Jose Rijo's house. Oh, that is what I referred to

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Speaker 4: the stadium as throughout most of my childhood. I don't

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Speaker 4: think anybody would would argue with him, Hey where are

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Speaker 4: you going? We're going to Jose Rihos house, and it

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Speaker 4: was his house from nineteen eighty eight to two thousand

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Speaker 4: and two.

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Speaker 1: Your buddy Bill Cunningham used to go to Jose Riho's

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Speaker 1: house all the time, like his actual house. Really, I

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00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: think they were neighbors and besties for a long Jose

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Speaker 1: Riho's house. What about Philip Irvin. There was a moment

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Speaker 1: in time where I thought Phil Irvin was the future.

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Speaker 4: What about one Drew Sutton? No, thank you. I didn't

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Speaker 4: say John Dutton. I said Drew Sutton.

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Speaker 1: How about Ernie Lombardi and Johnny Vandermere. No, that's a

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Speaker 1: good one, both of them. If I'm not mistaken. This

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Speaker 1: is their second appearance on this countdown. It's a multiple

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Speaker 1: uniform numbers for the Reds. Yeah, of course Trevor Bauer.

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Speaker 1: What about Glenn Gorbis. What about Matt Kemp only about

863
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Speaker 1: nine years past his prime? Matt Kemp, he had that

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Speaker 1: one homer That was kind of cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The twenty nineteen Reds were supposed to be special. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also, Bauer and Kemp both wore that number the same season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because Matt Kemp eventually got DFA and Trevor Bauer got

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Speaker 1: traded for of.

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Speaker 4: Course, Rake Frayle is in there. Jeff Keppinger.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Keppinger, Wow, you want to talk about high socks? Yep, Old,

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Speaker 1: Jeff cap Yep, now we Jene Locklear, Oh they called

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Speaker 1: him main Jen, didn't.

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Speaker 4: He wins an ant mean Gene? Maybe pistol Pete Well said.

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Speaker 4: The first read to.

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Speaker 1: Wear number twenty seven was Tony Rebello in nineteen thirty three.

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Speaker 1: He played in a total of sixteen games for Threads.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Now we're not on the next two days, so

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Speaker 4: we're gonna miss days twenty six and twenty five. But

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Speaker 4: of course I would be remiss not to mention the

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Speaker 4: great Willie Mopenna, of course, who rocked the number twenty

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Speaker 4: six for a couple of years for the Cincinnati Red Legs.

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Speaker 4: Willie Moepena.

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Speaker 1: I went to a game once, and I got there

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Speaker 1: early for batting practice, and Willie mo hit a scorcher

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Speaker 1: down the line, and there was a woman in the

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Speaker 1: left field seats right next to the foul pole reading

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Speaker 1: a book during batting practice. Oh, and this ball was

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Speaker 1: zeroing in on her. And we, much like people yelling

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Speaker 1: at Aaron Glenn, are like, hey, hey, watch out. She

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Speaker 1: looked up right as the ball made contact with her face,

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Speaker 1: and as a young man, I have never seen that

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Speaker 1: much blood. Ever, Uh, they didn't see the game. Will

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Speaker 1: I hope she's okay. I don't think anything he's listening

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Speaker 1: today significant ever happened to her. But she got tore

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Speaker 1: up by old Willie Mo.

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Speaker 4: I also think of number twenty five, and you think

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Speaker 4: of the great Dave Stormy Weathers man Dimitri Young, both

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Speaker 4: donning the number twenty five. No Red has worn number

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Speaker 4: twenty five, by the way, since the twenty eighteen season,

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Speaker 4: when Cody Reid did it so well One Francisco. You

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Speaker 4: remember him? What do you what number you talk about?

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Speaker 4: Twenty five? Oh, twenty five? Okay, yeah, got up. So

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Speaker 4: we're not gonna be here the next yip, right, I

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Speaker 4: just wanted to get ahead of it.

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Speaker 1: Ray Knight, Oh wow, Gus Bell, Buddy Bell, Paul Darn,

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Speaker 1: Todd Bensinger, how about Ken Griffy wore it? Yeah in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, that's stress Todd Bensinger catching the last

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Speaker 1: out of the nineteen ninety world. So you mentioned David Weathers,

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Speaker 1: and every time I think of David Weathers, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: a lot of Reds fans are like me. They think

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Speaker 1: of George Grand when David Weathers would come into a

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Speaker 1: game and he'd say, it's a nice night for stormy Weathers. Yep,

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Speaker 1: God bless George Grand.

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Speaker 4: He's the best dude. Love that guy. Oh, Tom Gletter

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Speaker 4: is next, we'll talk to him. He's no George Grant

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Speaker 4: since we get a phone caller too in an hour

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Speaker 4: number three as well, since he three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports station