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Speaker 2: Bye. Where you're listening. It's kind of interesting. I know

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Speaker 2: May twelve, twenty five. It was from Todd Lyons, who

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Speaker 2: The memorandum asserts that these administrative warrants are sufficient for

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Speaker 4: Now that's all the headline says.

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Speaker 4: But that's not what this memo does.

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Speaker 8: CBS News reached out to the Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 11: They again are.

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Speaker 2: Tony I find this news report so incredibly fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Propaganda. They conflate numbers, they distort the reality. They cherry

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Speaker 2: So let's walk through it for a moment, because it's

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Speaker 7: New developments in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown. Late today

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Speaker 4: It's a crackdown. No, it's enforcing the law.

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Speaker 2: It's reacting to four years plus all the previous years,

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Speaker 2: it's not a crack down, it's a response to an

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Speaker 7: A copy of an internal ICE memo authorizing federal agents

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Speaker 2: Maybe he ought to explain that that is an administrative

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Speaker 4: Now it's very.

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Speaker 2: Well put together because that now establishes the fear. Oh

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Speaker 7: Active was provided to Congress by whistleblowers.

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Speaker 2: Who all see. And that's even better. So now this

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Speaker 2: it was a public document. Public document you need to find.

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Speaker 7: This goes against standard training in the Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 2: Tonight Nicoleski standard training developed by whom because standard training

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Speaker 2: Well the standard's changed, but you're not going to explain

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Speaker 7: It has new reporting on how immigrants in Minnesota are

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Speaker 2: Notice the term so whoever this reporter at is now

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Speaker 2: The story where they're going to pull your heart streams,

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Speaker 4: This next little bit is legitimate.

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Speaker 8: In Saint Paul, Minnesota's Mung Village, empty stalls line of

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Speaker 9: On a normal day, all of these dolls would be open.

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Speaker 8: It's a sign that the city's mayor explains of the

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Speaker 9: They're afraid to leave their homes, they're afraid to let

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Speaker 8: And Mayor Kali Her says that fear has driven naturalized

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Speaker 2: When I imagine it has, and I think this is

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Speaker 2: But if we if we are indeed just looking at

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Speaker 2: is making very very clear that as we do this enforcement,

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Speaker 2: So as a naturalized citizen, please be prepared if we

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Speaker 4: We know that we may come.

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Speaker 2: Across you and you're a naturalized citizen, please ready, show

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Speaker 2: you we're not going to detain you. Simple simple public relations.

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Speaker 2: But no ICE isn't doing that. And yes, I believe

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Speaker 9: But to them, and they're telling me they are more

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Speaker 2: Really, you know anything about the Law's secret war. They

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Speaker 8: Homeland Security officials have declared Operation Metro Surge Laser focused

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Speaker 10: Since Presidents Trump took office one year ago today, the

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Speaker 2: More than five hundred in state or police custody. It's

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Speaker 2: but they should have distinguished. Yes, there are some in

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Speaker 2: Because those are two, actually three separate jurisdictions, state prisons,

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Speaker 2: They go to the Director of the State Corrections. They

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Speaker 11: This, they want them to take cussy of them. We

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Speaker 2: And I think he's I believe him. I believe that

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Speaker 2: the State of Minnesota Director of Prisons does cooperate with ICE.

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Speaker 2: If ICE tells us we have a detainer for dirt

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Speaker 2: But what's CBS doing here? They're using this guy as

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Speaker 8: Period Commissioner Paul schnell oversees Minnesota's Department of Corrections, including

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Speaker 2: Notice now it's state authorities. Now the little reporter ret

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Speaker 2: So are they lying to you about the state numbers?

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Speaker 2: It is fundamentally false. We cooperate with ICE and ICE attainers.

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Speaker 9: I'm the Department of Homeland and it's true.

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Speaker 2: The best I can tell that is true. That knows

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Speaker 4: We just recently released.

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Speaker 2: Or cooperated on the release of eighty four inmates that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not the problem.

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Speaker 2: The problem is your local mayors, your county commissioners, your

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Speaker 8: Charity says, roughly four hundred and fifty criminals have been

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Speaker 2: We haven't, and he probably doesn't get All he knows is, yeah,

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Speaker 2: He doesn't realize how well he's being played because he's

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Speaker 11: No idea where that number comes from. We know that

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Speaker 2: I two ice, oh to Ice. Yah, yeah, we released

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Speaker 2: All editing edit that.

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Speaker 4: Have our subjected to tainners.

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Speaker 11: So this notion that Minnesota is not honoring to relies detainers.

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Speaker 4: It is utterly untrue.

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Speaker 2: For him, it's utterly untrue for the Minnesota Department of Corrections.

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Speaker 2: It is true that they're not cooperating when it comes

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Speaker 8: Well, CBS News reached out to the Department of Homeland

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Speaker 2: Well, of course they doubled it down on their numbers,

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Speaker 4: But that CBS isn't going to do that.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to give ICE any sort of editorial

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Speaker 2: I says well, I don't know what, because we stand

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Speaker 4: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: And Ice probably answered yes, that is true, But we

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Speaker 2: that doesn't make it off the editing floor. I mean

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Speaker 2: that gets thrown onto the editing floor.

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Speaker 8: They again are asking Minnesota elected officials to honor all

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Speaker 8: Ice detainers.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're now asking Minnesota officials to honor all Ice detainers. Well,

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Speaker 2: they are some, they're honoring all state prison detainers, but

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Speaker 2: they're not for the county or the locals. So in

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Speaker 2: two minutes forty three seconds, CBS Evening News, one of

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Speaker 2: the titular heads of the cabal, completely misled its viewers

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Speaker 2: in a highly reflectively edited SoundBite. A news package about

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Speaker 2: how for the uninformed listener out there, Ice isn't cooperating

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Speaker 2: and here they present this nice, you know, typical looking

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Speaker 2: bureaucratic guy that's probably worked for the Department of Prisons

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Speaker 2: for his entire life. He's risen through the ranks, and

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Speaker 2: he's just he's befuddled.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Why they're saying we're not cooperating because we just released

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Speaker 2: eighty four that we were holding in the state prison

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Speaker 2: system too, ICE, So I don't know where they're getting

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Speaker 2: that number, and he honestly probably doesn't, And the reporter

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Speaker 2: probably never explained, well, we're talking about all and they

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Speaker 2: certainly didn't explain to their viewers. We're talking specifically about

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Speaker 2: all detainers and those include state prisons, county jails, local jails.

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Speaker 2: Notice how in two minutes and forty three seconds the

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Speaker 2: cabal has completely pushed the narrative halfway down toward the goalpost,

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Speaker 2: or maybe even further, because the useful idiots to listen to.

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Speaker 4: This CBS and Evening News would look.

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Speaker 2: At that and go if you knew nothing about what

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Speaker 2: was going on except oh my gosh, there's all this

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Speaker 2: controversy with ICE and they're raiding people's homes. And look

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Speaker 2: at these poor families from Laos that are hiding men

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Speaker 2: and their naturalized citizen, the language, the way the whole

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Speaker 2: package is structured, everything about it pure unadulterated prop again

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Speaker 2: by a national news organization.

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Speaker 4: Edward R.

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Speaker 2: Merrow I believe would be absolutely spinning in his grave

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Speaker 2: right now. I believe even Walter Cronkite would be spinning

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Speaker 2: in his grave. But that's where we are in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. And what's a little different from twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six from well, I don't know, nineteen sixty three and

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Speaker 2: concrete reporting on the jfk assassination or Edward R. Murrill

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Speaker 2: before that, reporting on something going on in World War

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Speaker 2: two or whatever. Is that now that people that are

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Speaker 2: consuming this news from CBS are so overwhelmed, so ignorant

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Speaker 2: what's going on, that they buy into the propagin utter

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Speaker 2: propagand