1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Former Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback and Steeler's Audio Network postgame show 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: host Charlie Batch joining me right now here on one 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: oh five nine the X Tien Ben's in for Mark Madden. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Charlie go to talk to you again. You took good 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: hey real quick before he gets the game last night. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Can I run that quote from Betonio by you? You 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: were involved with the players union? What sort of role 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: does the union have when it comes to complaints about 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: field conditions? Where does that whole thing go from here? 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Do you think? 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? Typically the player reps are the ones who have 12 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: the conversations, and it really works his way up. They 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: talked to the Executive Committee and then ultimately executive director 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: and if they go over field conditions, and then from 15 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: there they'll reach out to the NFL and start those discussions. 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: I know, far as where they are, as far as 17 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: where they are now. Ultimately, I'm sure the Steelers will say, hey, 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: the field is now being redone and we won't have 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: that issue movie too forward. So I think this is 20 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: going to close pretty quick. 21 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: Now. 22 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: You're close with Ben Roethlisberger. He wants to kick pit 23 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: out and have their own stadium built on campus. In Oakland. 24 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: Do you think Ben will pony up the dollars to 25 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: make that happen, Charlie, it will be Ben Roethlisberger field 26 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: in Oakland. 27 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: No, highly doubt that. If he was an alumni, that's 28 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: a different story. But you know, it's just funny whenever 29 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: he stated it. But again, I mean, he's not the 30 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: only one to feel that way. It's just the fact 31 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: that somebody needed to have the head one to be 32 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: able to have a conversation started going again. 33 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: What'd you think last night? I specifically want to ask 34 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: you two questions, and I want to know if I'm 35 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: reacting the right way if you agree on either of 36 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: these points. The first of one is, I admit this 37 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: is hindsight, and I don't think the offense is primarily 38 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: at fault. Obviously it's the defense, right, But Jalen Warren, 39 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: should they have run him a little bit more during 40 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: that game? What do you think? 41 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: Yes, if that flea flicker didn't happen, that debacle there, 42 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: I think that would have been because that play could 43 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: have easily went for four or five yards. Maybe he 44 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: bust out of the inn. It could have been a 45 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: bigger game, and that kind of disrupted the flow of 46 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: them offensively, and Jalen just bought out busted he missed it, 47 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: to say, he missed the signal. Everybody else on the 48 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: offense they received it, but he did not. And that's 49 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: why you saw the reaction of a Maaron Rodgers because 50 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: of that. 51 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: I know that I've talked about it, a lot of 52 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: other people have talked about it as it relates to 53 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: getting the ball down the field and taking more shots. 54 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: So I don't want to sound like a hypocrite and 55 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: then turn around this week and say, well, you should 56 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: have run more, you should have run more. But the 57 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: one time it leapt out at me, Charlie was maybe 58 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: the sequence that started right after the Bengals scored their 59 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: first touchdown and Aaron Rodgers went down the sideline and 60 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: tried the deep shot there and he threw the interception. 61 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: Like there, it kind of felt like, Hey, do you 62 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: really want to get into a pinball game with the 63 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Bengals or would this be a good time to give 64 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: it to Warren since he seems to have a little 65 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: something and your control in the line of scrimmage. That's 66 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: maybe where I thought would be a good time for 67 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: them to run him a. 68 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: Bit more absolutely, And that's one of those things. Of course, obviously, 69 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: you know, you got to live with the resultage of 70 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 2: the quarterback. He threw the interception, he would love to 71 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: have that bag, but that play happened on first down, 72 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: so defense just give up points and then here you 73 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: are now turning the football back over. And it was 74 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: just tough because if you go back and watch it 75 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: from the aerial, when you look at the design of 76 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: the play, yes, you're trying to hit DK, but if 77 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: you would look from the right to the rights, out 78 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: to left, I think it was Roman Wilson was coming 79 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: on a deep crossing route and that naturally draw through 80 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: the safety towards the closer the d DKAY and then 81 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: ultimately that pass was thrown a little bit in the 82 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: middle of the field and it was an easy interception 83 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: for the safety. 84 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: Charny the other decision that I wanted to ask you about, 85 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: and I'm actually on board with what they did. I 86 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: know some people hated the punt, it actually worked out 87 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: for the reasons why. I think they punted late in 88 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: the game. How did you feel about it? 89 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought as I was watching that about that 90 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: maybe that was four down territory for the Steelers to 91 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: go for it there, because yeah, you canna make the stop, 92 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: but again, Tom is more precious than anything else. And ultimately, 93 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: even though they were are by the rebound score, it 94 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: was just one of those situations where I was like, 95 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: I was with you. I thought they should have went 96 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: on that thought they should have went for it on 97 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: fourth down to that punting. 98 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: Okay. The one complaint that I heard from fans that 99 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: I really don't agree with, and I want to get 100 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: your take on this one too, is Friarmouth. I think 101 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: people saw t Higgins go down and say that was 102 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the wise move. People had such little face in the 103 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: defense and how it was playing. I've heard some complaints 104 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: that friar Mouth should have gone down. I think that 105 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: was too early in the game. They needed seven. You 106 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: get seven when you can get seven. I think did 107 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on that? Do you think you 108 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: should have slid? Because I think it was just right 109 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: to go in and get the touchdown when you can. 110 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: It's seven, not three. I think it's a different kettle 111 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: of fish. 112 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is tough because it's easier, you know, in hinsight, yes, 113 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: that's the perfect strategy. That you would have, but typically 114 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: you don't have those conversations until you're really in four 115 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: minute football where you're just trying to drain the clock, 116 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: run the football out, and bleed the clock out. Those 117 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: type of things didn't occur because if fire muss shoes, 118 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: he fairly has been part of the game plan. So 119 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: if you think he's not going to score when he 120 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: said wide open in the middle of the field, you're 121 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: sadly mistaken. So, yes, I can understand that, but that's 122 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: where you hope your defense is going to go out 123 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: there and make a stop. That didn't happen. But when 124 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: you look at T Higgins, I mean, that was as 125 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: smart of a play as that anybody could have possibly done, 126 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: because if he scores, Pittsburgh probably wars and wins the 127 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: game there, even though they have the hell Mary attempt 128 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: at the end of the ball game. But that was 129 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: a very smart play by. 130 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: T. 131 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: Higgins. 132 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, on that point, Charlie, I was watching that, I thought, yeah, 133 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: that is a smart play. It's the right way to 134 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: do it. It's going to be a chip shot field goal. 135 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: But I do have to admit I've seen the Bengals 136 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: blow games against the Steelers in Cincinnati so many times 137 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: it went through my mind that they were going to 138 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: duff the snap or the hold, or he was going 139 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: to jink it off the upright or something. It did 140 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: go through my head. 141 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: It went through mine. I said, you're going to miss 142 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: this only because they were attempting on a fourth down 143 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: and you typically sometimes we attempted on third down. But 144 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: I want to go back to one more point on 145 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: the T Higgins play. It kind of reminded me of 146 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: a few years ago whenever we were open to the 147 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: season opener against the Falcons, and if you remember at 148 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: the end of the game, and it typically veterans do this, 149 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: remember Mika Fitspatcher, he caught the interception, but he easily scored, 150 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: but he ran out of bounds to make sure that 151 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: the offense kneeled the ball down and led the clock 152 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: out and not put your defense on the field. That 153 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: was with that play reminded me, even though we were 154 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: on the opposit side of it. That was what I 155 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: reminded of and that's why veteran like T Higgins did 156 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: what he did. 157 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Charlie Batch with US Steelers Audio Network postgame show host, 158 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: former Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback what did you see from the 159 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: attempt at coverage on Chase and Higgins and why did 160 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: it go awry? 161 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: Charlie, Yeah, it was so twenty two completions of piece. 162 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this is why you bought your you know 163 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: the Jalen Ramsey's in you're the Darius Slays in then 164 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: you for this particular game and Joe Flacco veteran guy 165 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: he read he did not miss a coverage as their 166 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: relations to what the defense was trying to do and 167 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: confusing him anytime. The big play that he hit down 168 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: the middle of the field to the tight end they 169 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: were doubling the stars. You had both safety coming out 170 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: the middle of the field and it less Slay in 171 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: the buying and you hit him down the field, but 172 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: in the manner of unknowing where the ball was going 173 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: to go on up this the most of the thirst 174 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: disturbing play for me, was at the end of the 175 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: ball game, whenever they were a miscommunication that was happening 176 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: on the defensive side. They just did this a couple 177 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: of weeks ago against the Vikings at the end of 178 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: the game where they led and that was the Jordan 179 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 2: Addison play wherever Pat was Peyton Wilson tracking down. It 180 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: was a busted coverage. Here you are on that particular play, 181 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: you could see Patrick Queen, He's trying to change the coverage. 182 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: People on the right side solid. He moves Cole Hookum 183 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: over to the left. That side plays man and man. 184 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: Don't Again, I don't care what defense you play. It 185 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: just has to be the same defense. And when you 186 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: allow Jamar Chase to be that wide open, that's a 187 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: problem and ultimately cost him the game. 188 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: Tell me if you disagree with this, But you know, 189 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: from my novice point of view of looking at it, 190 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: certainly as opposed to you, my thought was they were 191 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: so concerned about what they were going to do coverage wise, 192 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: they kind of forgot to get creative in the past 193 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: rush department, right. I just didn't see much creativity there, 194 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: at least none that worked. What did you think? 195 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really thought going into the game. You know 196 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: this is sometimes you get into your own way, right, 197 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: You're like, the offensive line is just so bad. Our 198 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: defensive front, we don't don't even any to blitz because 199 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: we're now going to apply to pressure to Flacco. Everybody 200 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: else has been doing it, why not us? But yet 201 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: they figured out a way to actually pick up the protection. 202 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: You saw two men, you know, they had two different 203 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: defensive line in that time. You have four linebackers on 204 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: the field. These are things that you know, Again, coverage wise, 205 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: I just thought that in some cases that they overthought 206 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: themselves and they got burnt by it because the Bengals 207 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: were ready for it. And again, Flato was getting the 208 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: ball out of his hands, and that's the advantage that 209 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: you have as a veteran quarterback. 210 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: I thought once or twice, Charlie I noticed specifically on 211 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: a play that they highlighted on the television feed, it 212 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: looked like they brought Elliott once and then delayed Queen, 213 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: sort of like they were anticipating that Elliott would get 214 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: picked up and then Queen would go through whatever hole 215 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: was opened. But that took so long that Flacco just 216 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: got rid of the ball. Anyway, it was almost like 217 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: they were blitzing but not gaining the advantage of speeding 218 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: up the clock form at. 219 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: All correct if you go back, I think it may 220 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: have been their first or second possession. They actually ran 221 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: that blitz and Patrick Queen was green dog and because 222 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: he thought that back was actually gonna block and he 223 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: actually slipped out and Flacco hitting, but Brown dropped it, 224 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: and that was one of those ones you just said, oooh, 225 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: if you'd have hit that plate, that would have been 226 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 2: additional thirty yards. But again they had to pun the 227 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: football in that drive. The Steelers won up ten nothing. 228 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: So again, these are things that ultimately play where you're 229 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: kind of out here playing checker, trying to figure out 230 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 2: how you can gain an advantage. 231 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: However, this game was gonna go, Charlie, whatever permutation came 232 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: into play. If you had kind of taken a crystal 233 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: ball and told me the next morning that, yeah, the 234 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Steelers are gonna lose. Flacco was gonna be good. The 235 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: wide receivers were gonna be good. It's gonna be higher 236 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: scoring than what the odds makers are suggesting. I want 237 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, I can squint and see that happening. 238 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: One thing I couldn't see was for as bad as 239 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: the Steelers run defense had been, I thought it was 240 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: at least fixed to the point that they could contain 241 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Chase Brown and a Cincinnati rush attack. You shouldn't even 242 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: say the word rush attack. That's not a proper way 243 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: to say what they were doing on the ground. I 244 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: can't believe they let up the ease with which they 245 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: had on offense for the Bengals to run the ball. 246 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,359 Speaker 1: That should not have been part of the calculus. 247 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: Especially the way that the defense or the run defense. 248 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: But the Steelers have been trump trending upward because of 249 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: Derek Harmon returning somebody. There is absolutely no way that 250 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: Brown is that offensive line is going to be able 251 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: to block them. But you dun bow, we were wrong 252 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: and stop for sure they were going to take away 253 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: that running game, make Flacco beat you down the field, 254 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: which ultimately he did, but again, just not giving up 255 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: to the amount of yards that you're giving up in 256 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: the running game, that just was atrocious. And that's let's 257 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: let you know, even when Flacco is running for twelve 258 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: yards at the end of the game, you know, like, 259 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: really this. 260 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 4: Is ruberre doing. 261 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: But these are things that happen, and it's just really 262 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: it's concerning right now because it's kind of raising the 263 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: alarm for a lot of people because one defensive the defense, 264 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: you thought you had it fixed, but now these leaks 265 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: are starting to happen again. 266 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, we're sort of speaking a few seconds ago 267 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: about maybe them overthinking some things or thinking themselves into 268 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: oblivion at times? Did they do that? Did Tomlin do that? 269 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: Starting on Monday with his whole reaction to Andrew Berry 270 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: and all that, Like, Were the seeds planted that this 271 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: was going to be a problem early in the week 272 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: psychologically before we even got to game. 273 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: Day, more psychologically for coach Tomlin at that point because 274 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: the players, a lot of them probably had never played 275 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: against Flacco before. So these, you know, when you have 276 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: those type of conversations that are going on. Of course, 277 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: now you bring that veteran president a lot of these 278 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: coverages that you're trying to confuse young quarterbacks with, you know, changes, 279 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: you know, because of his experience. But I think ultimately, 280 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: when you look at it, I think in hindsight you 281 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: can honestly say, Andrew Berry, you're probably saying, get them, Yeah, 282 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 2: that's why I did it. So however it unfolds you. 283 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: You have to see the Bengals here in another three 284 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 2: or four weeks, and now you better get this win 285 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: when they come back. Ashore. 286 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: Two things about friar Mouth. Why does he play so 287 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: well against Cincinnati And do you think this lays a 288 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: foundation for him being woven back in the offense more 289 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: as the weeks go along here. 290 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm a huge Pat fire Moove fan, and 291 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: you know, want to see him out there engaging be 292 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: For whatever reason, he's slipped into the donalk house wasn't 293 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: playing a lot. But the one thing that he may 294 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: not get credit for until people go back and watch 295 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: the game, he blocked his tail off in this game. 296 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: Even though he had over one hundred yards, he blocked 297 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: his tail off. He would help spring Jalen Warm multiple 298 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: times in that running game, and I'm hoping that's the 299 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: performance that he had. We're going to see him more 300 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: involved in this offense movie forward. 301 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: Matchup wise going in, do you think there was a 302 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: reason why Herbig didn't play more or do you think 303 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: that was an in game field thing. 304 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: I think probably was the in game field thing. And ultimately, 305 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: you know, I know Nick Herbert, he's been playing well 306 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: and he deserves those extra refs that he's getting. But 307 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: you're paying Alex Hausman for a reason, and ultimately money 308 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: overseats pretty much everything else, and that's why you're going 309 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: to see Alex continue to be out there. And as 310 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: long as he's healthy, he's going to be the guy. 311 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: And he has to stay healthy because you know, at 312 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: this particular point, Yeah, it's one thing to have a 313 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: you know, get a break and you get a spill 314 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 2: on where the pass rush is. But Alex Smith has 315 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: to be that guy because they're a lot more stout 316 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: against the run with Herbert Gives at this point of 317 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: his career. 318 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I'll end on a big picture question here, Charlie, who 319 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: are the Steelers right now? I mean, do you look 320 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: at them and say, this is a team that's still 321 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: likely to win the division and can right the ship 322 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: against three likely playoff teams here over the next three weeks, 323 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: or are we looking at them having to do what 324 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: their division foes have done and try to rebound from 325 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: a really tough stretch. 326 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: I think right now we're trying to figure it out, 327 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: and I honestly don't have an answer as it relates 328 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: to who this team truly is. All I know is 329 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: the next probably five of six weeks, this team will 330 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: start to reveal itself as a relations to who they 331 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: truly are because the schedule doesn't get any easier. The 332 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: good part is that everything is right in front of 333 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: you as far as the goals that you want to 334 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: accomplish and you talk about those playoff teams in the AFC. 335 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: You have the majority of them on your schedule, so 336 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: handle your business and you know, and ultimately hopefully they 337 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: can get to that point of you know, being you know, 338 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: the conversations for that number one seed. But this next 339 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: month would definitely show either they're a contender or pretender. 340 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 1: If they do get caught from behind by one of 341 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: their divisional foes. Is it Cincinnati now at Flacco or 342 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: is it just the Ravens getting healthier? 343 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: Do you think? Yeah, I think it's pretty much Cincinnati 344 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: right now as we discussed this at this point. But again, 345 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: if the Baltimore, the Ravens are going to play spoiler 346 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: toward the end of the season as they get healthy, 347 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: if they're out of the playoff contention, they're going to say, hey, 348 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: if we're going home, we're taking everybody else with us 349 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: and we're going to spoil everybody's Christmas. So you just 350 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: old that's why this game you had to win to 351 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: create that separation. So now you don't have any flaws 352 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: that you head into the later part of the season. 353 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Charlie, good catching up with you again. Glad we can 354 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: do this. Appreciate you coming on. 355 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: Heah, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me, all right. 356 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Charlie Batch, Steelers Audio Network postgame show host also former 357 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback. He is brought to us by eighty 358 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: four Lumber Dynasty, partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. I want 359 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: to investigate that question that I just asked, Charlie. I 360 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: saw some people calling in about what Potonio said about 361 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: the field at Akrosher Stadium. If you want to get 362 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: in those thoughts to anything you heard from Charlie that 363 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: you thought was interesting and noteworthy to continue talking about, 364 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: we can eight three, three, four one two ninety nine, 365 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: thirty nine. But I want to get to that conversation 366 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: about who the Steelers really are. I want to get 367 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: to that conversation about where they really are right now 368 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: in the North and if this lead that they built 369 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: up is going to evaporate. Is it now going to 370 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: go to Flacco and the Bengals after we wrote them 371 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: off prior to the trade. We're all waiting to see 372 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: if the Ravens are gonna get healthy? Is it really 373 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals you gotta worry the most about? One five 374 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: nine The X Tomorrow Nights it's the Pens against the Sharks. 375 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: Game time is at ten, Our coverage starts at nine. 376 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: Listen to every game and the best Pens coverage on 377 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: your home in the Pittsburgh Penguins one O five nine 378 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: The X. He's money Mark. I think I gotta start 379 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: with pull pork Nachos fantastic The X. 380 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: At one O five nine. 381 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: When I was filling in for Mark tim Ben's infro 382 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: Mark Today earlier in the week when he was sick, 383 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: happened to stumble across the Pro Football Talk power rankings, 384 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: and those power rankings had the Steelers fifth. I was 385 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: obviously skeptical, and I think I was proven right to 386 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: be skeptical last night based on how they played against 387 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. So let me ask you this question. 388 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: We all know they're not the fifth best team in football. 389 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: We know that they never were the fifth best team 390 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: in football. There's a difference between doing power rankings based 391 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: on who has performed the best so far over a 392 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: small sample size of a third or a fourth of 393 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: the season, and who we really think is going to win. 394 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: As flawed as the Chiefs are as flawed as the 395 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: Bills are as flawed as the Eagles are You're not 396 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: going to pick the Steelers on a neutral field against 397 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: any of those three teams. I wouldn't have before Thursday night. 398 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: I sure as hell won't after I saw what I 399 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: saw last night. But I want to pose this question 400 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: that you can answer at eight three three four one 401 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: two ninety nine thirty nine. I just brought it up 402 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: with Charlie Batch, and I want to see what your 403 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: thoughts are. As skeptical as you might be about the 404 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: Steelers because they play in a division that's as broken 405 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: as theirs is, do you think that they can or 406 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: will still win it? And if they don't, who's gonna 407 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: catch them? Eight three three four one two ninety nine 408 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: thirty nine. I think they probably still will end up 409 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: catch winning the division. If they get caught, it's probably Cincinnati. 410 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna sure myself or try to assure 411 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: you that it will be. It's still could be the 412 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: Ravens if they get healthy. Is Sophie the Ravens If 413 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson comes back and the rest of the division 414 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: hangs close enough to them that they can catch up. 415 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: The thing about this part of the conversation is Flacco's 416 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: not gonna do this to anybody but the Steelers. Like 417 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: this is a Steeler specific thing that we're dealing with 418 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: right now. With Joe Flacco. This isn't like you're not 419 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna see he certainly didn't from Green Bay. You're not 420 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: gonna see Flacco do this to the rest of the league. 421 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: I don't think. As good as Chase and Higgins are, 422 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: other teams are gonna figure out a way to speed 423 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: up the clock. Other teams are gonna figure out a 424 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: way to make him throw the ball more quickly before 425 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: those guys have a chance to get open down the field. 426 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna be more creative in their blitz packages, They're 427 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: gonna be more creative in their pass rush. They're gonna 428 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: be better covering so four can get home. Like that 429 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: is a what we just saw last night is not 430 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 1: an ascending Bengals team so much as it is a 431 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: bad matchup nightmare for the Steelers. And the Seeds were 432 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: planted to make it such based on Tomlin's reaction on Monday, 433 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: And maybe we haven't talked about that enough, and that 434 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: might be on me at four to twenty five and 435 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: a half here, because there were so many things that 436 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: the players did poorly, and there were so many I 437 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: can't believe what I'm watching moments from that defense in 438 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: the sixty minutes of the game last night. We probably 439 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: haven't talked enough about how Tomlin approached this week because 440 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: that was a canned, planned response. Let's be honest, right, 441 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: and maybe I'll open the phone lines on that topic too. 442 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: Relating to Tomlin eight three, three, four, one two nine 443 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: thirty nine, how culpable is he for what happened last 444 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: night based on his approach at the press conference on Monday, 445 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: Because I think the seeds of concern were sown within 446 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: that defense three days before they left for Cincinnati. Because 447 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: Tomlin never does what he did on Monday, never except 448 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: three weeks ago when he talked about the same guy 449 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: with Joe Flacco when he brought up the Anthony Richardson conversation. 450 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: So he's obviously got this thing in his head about 451 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: this quarterback that nobody else in the rest of the 452 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: league seems to be all that concerned about. You know, 453 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: he could have gone anywhere during the offseason. The Steelers 454 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: could have gotten him. I mean, my god, if they're 455 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: so afraid of him, they should get him. Maybe not 456 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: this offseason, but go ahead and get him next year. 457 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers retires and you can't draft the guy, 458 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: at least we have to stop we can stop hearing 459 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: about how dangerous he is. But I do think there 460 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: is some legitimacy to the belief that he and the 461 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: coaching staff got so far in the heads of his 462 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: own players that they were sort of paralyzed by insecurity 463 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: and doubt over how they were going to face Flacco 464 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: because he turned into this big thing where he called 465 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: out an opposing GM for making a trade. I mean, 466 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: I think there's some legitimacy to that part of the conversation. 467 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Let alone the game plan, let alone the tactics, let 468 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: alone how they approached the game once they got there. 469 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: But maybe one hand washes the other there, doesn't it. 470 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: He's talked himself into being that the trade was so 471 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: offensive to him that he turned Flacco into a bigger 472 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: deal than what he is, and that's how they approached 473 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: the game defensively, and you got what you got, which 474 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: was Flacco throwing for over three hundred yards and putting 475 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: thirty three points on the board. You could tweet me 476 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: on that front two at Tim Ben's pgh. We're gonna 477 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: hear from Mike de Corsi coming up a little bit 478 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: later on Friday Football show that he does with me 479 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: each and every Friday before Steelers games. But this case 480 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: was like a postgame show. We're gonna run part of 481 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: that back. Mike's on with Mark once a week, Rudy 482 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: and Fox Chapel. You're on one of five nine the X. 483 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 484 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if you or anybody else has discussed 485 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: maybe the possible of the bye week affecting their performance. 486 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: Maybe they were boozing too much, smoking too much grass. 487 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: Having they played coming out of the bye. They played 488 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: coming out of the bye. They beat Cleveland coming out 489 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: of the bye, but that's Cleveland. I mean, Oh, so 490 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: they had two by weekends in a rows. They were 491 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: smoking grass and drunk while they were beating Cleveland and 492 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: hitting Dylan Gabriel sixteen times. Yeah, thanks, got I squeezed 493 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: that one in, mister Friday Afternoon, speaking of boozing and 494 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: drinking too much, smoking lots of dope, mister Friday Afternoon. 495 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: Next twenty five nine The X the Spirit's Summer News. 496 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: Joining us for the X is Halloween Clues. 497 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: On Thursday, October thirtieth. 498 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 5: The cru says sale at eight pm, which why he's 499 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 5: it from the Klinton's playing all your nineties favorites same 500 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 5: dollars and fifty nine cents from every ticket sold goes 501 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 5: to the Mary Ella Mute Foundation or crew for this 502 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 5: twenty one and dressing your Halloween best to score prizes 503 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 5: all night fo Tickets are on sale. 504 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Now at Gateway Clipper dot com the Exes Hallow Way 505 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: on the. 506 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 5: Gateway Clipper sponsored by Disaster Restoration Services. 507 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: We'll see you one October thirty. 508 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 6: From the one oh five nine the ex Weather Center. 509 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: This report is sponsored by Staples. It's gonna be partly 510 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: cloudy tonight, then mostly time for mister Friday Afternoon, who 511 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: went three and two last week, thirteen and seventeen on 512 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: the season. So that means with two losses last week, 513 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: mister Friday Afternoon needs two contumn two electric shocks. Oh oh, 514 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, mister Friday Afternoon, do 515 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: you have to be shocked for every loss you have? 516 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: Is you gonna be like riding the Green Mile in 517 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: week eighteen? 518 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: Well that's not accurate. That's a abuse. 519 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: Well it's abused. 520 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: Madden. By the way, Where's where's Madden? 521 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: Madden's in Liverpool. 522 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 4: A soccer game. 523 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he faked in illness early in the week and 524 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: then he went to Liverpool. 525 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 4: Interesting, is he gonna be at the Is he gonna 526 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 4: be in trouble with HR? 527 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't think we have HR. I think we actually 528 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: fired HR. I think we run our own ship now, 529 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: which is kind of weird because no one's usually in 530 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: charge around this place anyway. So I guess it makes 531 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: sense now that I say it out loud. 532 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna talk to HR. 533 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: Well you are a part of HR. Now that you 534 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: say that, I forgot about that. Technically, your contract, which 535 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm told is not iron clad, is run. 536 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 4: But it is iron clad. Who told you is not 537 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 4: iron clad? 538 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Tom told me that right before you came on. 539 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, Madden been told me it is iron clad. 540 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: Oh all right, Well I'll double check with the HR 541 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: department that no longer exists to see if it is 542 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: in fact iron clad. Now you get to pick three 543 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: games this week, but you don't get the Steelers game. 544 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: What would you have. 545 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 4: PILL had today? I had Cincinnati last night. 546 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: Well it doesn't count. You can't do that. Now, that's 547 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: not how it works. 548 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 4: You can't wait. Why didn't you call me on Thursday? 549 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: It's like a mid the Steeler game. Pick. 550 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: It says right here, mister, Friday afternoon. And I wasn't 551 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: on yesterday, so I'm the one that was entrusted with 552 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: doing this bit. If I come on Thursday, maybe I 553 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: would have made an adjustment. But it says here Friday afternoon, 554 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: and according to HR, I have to do your slot 555 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: on your given day or else it violates the contract, 556 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: which would no longer be ironclad. Well that's a cheap shot, 557 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: so you don't get the ad. Well, I would say 558 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: advantage of the Steelers game, but we saw what happened 559 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: last night. You still need three games. Let's start with 560 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: your lock of the week for this week, which can't 561 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: be the Steeler game. 562 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: Okay, well, of course it can't be the steel game. 563 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: It's already played. Let's pick the Falcons plus one and 564 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: a half at San Francisco. 565 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: That's a weird game because like, these are two teams 566 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: that have no idea which one is really real. I 567 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: know what isn't real, and that's the Buffalo run defense. 568 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: And Bijon went crazy last last week. I don't know 569 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: if he's gonna be able to do the same thing 570 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: against San Francisco that was just a great matchup last week. 571 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: Well or losing Warner hurts a lot because they love 572 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 4: They've Lostn't in the span of three weeks and lost 573 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 4: boson Warner. I think I'd rather five at their top 574 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 4: six defensive players are out. The wide receiving core is 575 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 4: still decimating. You know, Kittle's coming back this week. Their 576 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 4: quarterbacks are playing. Max Joneses been playing hurt and he's 577 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: been very effective, but he's still been playing hurt. Birdie's 578 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 4: not Berdie's not ready yet. And the Falcons have get 579 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: you know, everybody felt the Falcon's defensive stint coming into 580 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 4: the year, Like if you had fantasy football drafts, you 581 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 4: were targeting the Falcons defense at your players, like you know, 582 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: we're looking to, you know, draft guys that play the 583 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 4: Falcons right. They have. They have given the least amount 584 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: of yards to see in the NFL. And that's not 585 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 4: an accident. I mean they shut down Josh Allen. You 586 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 4: could just tell that the defensive line, which has been 587 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 4: terrible and been years past, they're They're tenacious pass rush, 588 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 4: pass rush, they disrupt everything they're excellent safeties or they 589 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 4: got a good cornerback, and they have explosive player. They 590 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 4: have an offense which you know they're making Panics a 591 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: game manager, but they have the type of tools that 592 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 4: that that could involve themselves in a shoot unnecessary. They 593 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: haven't had to have a shootout this year yet most 594 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 4: think they're smothering. 595 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: Most importantly, how do you think George Kittle is gonna 596 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: perform if he doesn't have his smelling salts or has 597 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: that been resolved? Does he allowed to have his smelling 598 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: salts again? 599 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. I don't think they're supposed 600 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 4: to have to smelling selves that they cheat. It's this 601 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 4: first game back. The Falcons am been excellent against side 602 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 4: ends this year. You know, mccaffery's not even averaging four 603 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 4: yards of carry. It's just I don't know. I'm gonna 604 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 4: ride the momentum here with Atlanta. They uh, they played 605 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: played a damaged team and like at San Francisco, I 606 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 4: think he's just trying to get sort and get back 607 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 4: in good health. Look quick for Atlanta to win this. 608 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: Game, all right. So that's the lock of the week. 609 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: What's the daily double? 610 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: We're playing we're playing an injuries u or travel situation 611 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: that worked last week. We're gonna play against that that 612 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 4: short strip, uh, the short week with the So the 613 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: Denver went overseas, and it's kind of weird. As they've 614 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: been doing more overseas games. They usually gave the team 615 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: that went overseas a week's rest when they came back. 616 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 4: The past couple of years have had so many of 617 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 4: these games, and because of scheduling, they haven't really been 618 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: able to do that. Uh yeah, yeah, well they got it, 619 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 4: but I'm just saying that not all the teams are 620 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: getting it. You know, last week we had the situation 621 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: where uh you know, Cleveland, who's in that spot? 622 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Minnesota? 623 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 4: Uh no minute? Who to Minnesota playoffs back against So 624 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: the Browns came back against the Steelers. The Steelers had 625 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: that we're doing the same spot. Steelers had extra rest 626 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 4: against a team coming back with no rest on on 627 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 4: the on the overseas week. The Giants play on Thursday. 628 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 4: That it's extra rest. It's not been complete two weeks, 629 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: but they're are. You know, the bone Nicks has not 630 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 4: been playing good at all. That offense is not good 631 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: and you can just tell the Giants are re energize 632 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 4: with with scatted bow and Ben and Jackson Dart. Uh 633 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 4: in this game, the defense loves that loves them. They're 634 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: playing hard on defense. We're just going to bet against 635 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 4: that travel. So Denver probably wins. But but this is 636 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: gonna stay close because Denver isn't scorn enough to beat 637 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: anybody by margin. 638 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: All right, is it really all that or are you 639 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: just making the Giants the daily double because of Jackson 640 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: Dart's mom. 641 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: No, I'm not gonna make that the daily double. 642 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's not the daily double. 643 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 4: No, that's not the daily double. 644 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so then that's just your extra games. So what's 645 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: your daily double? Pick days? 646 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 4: Uh, we're going to play such another situational uh uh thing. 647 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 4: So so coaches that have been overseas at least two times, 648 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: okay against coaches that have never been overseas are seven 649 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: to zero in that spot. Okay, Now, jack Ville has 650 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: been overseas a lot, but this is lyon there against 651 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: against what's his name? Who did his last two trips? 652 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: Did we just give his cell phone the electric shock? Tom? 653 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 4: What? Now? 654 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: Your your cell phone was cutting out? So say that again? 655 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: You're doing rams and Jaguars, Is that right? 656 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, Rams, the Jaguars because Sean McVay has been over 657 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 4: been overseas and his teams have won a combined score 658 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: I think it was forty seven or fifty seven to ten. 659 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,239 Speaker 4: He's one of the best overseas coaches. Lion Cohen has 660 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 4: never been over there. Coaches that have never been over 661 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 4: there against coaches that have been over there two times 662 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 4: or more are owing seven. So since a good situational spot. 663 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: The good team. I don't even care if Whoka doesn't 664 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: play because they're an uptight team. They're very well coached, 665 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: you know who. They've still got Davonte Adams and Conmen 666 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 4: Williams that they'll feed them. Uh take uh take the Rams. 667 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: I think the Jaguars're gonna start coming back down to 668 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 4: earthier that you reach. 669 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: So Atlanta plus one and a half the Giants plus seven, 670 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: the Rams minus three. I get to assign the super 671 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: collider to make us picks the doubled value, I'm gonna 672 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: go with. I don't have as much faith in Atlanta 673 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: at plus one and a half, so I'm gonna go 674 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: with Atlanta as plus one and a half is the 675 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: super collider. 676 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: Okay, so we gotta we got the lock of the 677 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 4: week and the super collider is Atlanta? 678 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: Is that okay? Is that allowed? Or do I have 679 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: to change course here? 680 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 4: That that's funny? Just remember that the rams are the 681 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 4: daily double. 682 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: The rams are daily double. Right, yeah, right, and we 683 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: just doubled up. 684 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: I mean you could have, but let's also not Let's 685 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: also not forget that these ticks have been made with 686 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 4: zero doubt. 687 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: And all of them are ironclad. Mister Friday afternoon, you're 688 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: on one O five nine the. 689 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 5: X one O your shot at x DR cash. 690 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: See what I did there? 691 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 5: Thirteen times a day, nine am through nine p d 692 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 5: X will give you the keyword at the top of 693 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 5: every hour. 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People's an essential utilities company, safe 705 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: reliable natural gas energy, People's Hyphengas dot Com. Tim Benz 706 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: Infro Mark coming up in the five o'clock hour, We're 707 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna hear from Mike de Corsi from my Friday Football show. 708 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: Mike's on weekly with Mark and he's on weekly with me, 709 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: and we broke down the entire game from last night. 710 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick five minute respite from All Steelers, 711 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: All the Time today. A couple other items, including the Penguins, 712 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: who you can hear on one O five to nine, 713 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: The X tomorrow against the San Jose Sharks. It's the 714 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: last of their three game California swing before they're back 715 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: against Vancouver on Tuesday. Here on one O five to. 716 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: Nine the X. 717 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: They won against the Kings last night four to two. 718 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: And I guess they did with Kindle what they did 719 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: with Brunick where they intentionally scratched him. So these guys 720 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: are like on the Paul Skeins pitch count treatment or 721 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: something like that. It's happening in the vacuum of a 722 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: year where they're not supposed to be good anyway. So 723 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: that kinda calms me down a little bit about this also, 724 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: we're talking about I think an overall big picture view 725 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: of where the Penguins are going that if they have 726 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: a plan to sort of space out how many games 727 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: they play, that suggests to me that the plan is 728 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: to have them here for as long as possible beyond 729 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: the nine games. So if that's the case, then I 730 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: feel better about it. Or else why why not just 731 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: get nine and send them back? So that's encouraging to me. 732 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: And you know, this stuff is gonna take care of itself. 733 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, let's say that they both are up here 734 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: for the whole season. They are gonna have these healthy 735 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: scratch games just for the sake of not burning them out. 736 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: That's gonna take care of itself. Because La Tang's gonna 737 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: get hurt, a bunch of forwards are gonna get hurt. 738 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: They don't have enough at either position anyway, so they're 739 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to play. They're not gonna have the option 740 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 1: to scratch them. So if they have the option to 741 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: do it now early, it's not the biggest deal in 742 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: the world. I guess it still makes me say, Okay, 743 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: you're probably overthinking this, but whatever, go ahead and do it. 744 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get my dander up about it. Something 745 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: else hockey related before we get back to the Steelers, 746 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: and one actual quick baseball note that I found interesting. 747 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: The RMU hockey team opened its season last night. They 748 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: put against Michigan number three, number four in the country 749 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: based on what pole you're looking. Colonials did well. They 750 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: were winning two to one. They were tied to two 751 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: heading in the third. They give up a goal midway 752 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: through the thirds, they were down three to two, pulled 753 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: the goalie and they lost four to two. Actually, the 754 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: guy that scored, TJ. Hughes. He was a recruit, excuse me, 755 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: a recruit that was coming to RMU that was good 756 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: enough to end up playing at Michigan. So if that 757 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: tells you where they were going before that program got 758 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: shut down for two years while it was such a 759 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: kick in the teeth beyond obvious reasons. There you go. 760 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: Michael Felsing from Pittsburgh scored, so that's good to see. 761 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: And Robert Morris tough way to start. They got Michigan 762 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame before their first home game on Halloween 763 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: against Niagara, so they're really getting tested early. The baseball 764 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: item before we get back to the Steelers. Tyler Glass 765 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: now pitching for the LA Dodgers. Last night, Glass now 766 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: five and two thirds innings. He ends up giving up 767 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: just one earned run, three hits, three walks, eight strikeouts 768 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: to beat the Brewers, and now the Dodgers are on 769 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: the cusp of going back to the World Series. Here's 770 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: Glass now after the game. 771 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 4: Tyler, congratulations, you had to watch lastco season from the dugout. 772 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: How much better is this? 773 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 6: It's incredible. Yeah, to be a part of this, this 774 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 6: incredible group of guys. Just being in my hometown, it's 775 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 6: a pretty surreal feeling. 776 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: I feel great. You looked more confident at the night. 777 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: When on, How did limiting the damage early that uni grew? Yeah, 778 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: months he saved me right there. 779 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 6: I think early on a little like you said, not 780 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 6: early in the groove, rhythm was a little off, and 781 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 6: I think has the game kept going, I leaned on 782 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 6: that slider, Oh sorry, I leaned on the sinker a 783 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 6: lot and kind of got me more timed up and I. 784 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: Was good to go. 785 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: And I'll just say something real quick about this. First 786 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: of all, I like Glass now when is here? He 787 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: drove me crazy as a pitcher. But I really liked 788 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: him in Pittsburgh and liked the fact that he's had 789 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: some success in his iterations in Tampa in LA Beyond, 790 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: of course, he still had the injury issues, but I'm 791 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: glad to see him have some success in his hometown 792 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: with the Dodgers. And he's still got really good stuff. 793 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: And he also had a good series against the Phillies 794 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: where he came out of the bullpen to relieve show 795 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: Away for an inning and a half and put up 796 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: zeros and had a strong start over six innings against 797 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: the Phillies as well. So they'll close out that series. 798 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: And I saw someone from down the dial tweet this, 799 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,479 Speaker 1: and you know, it was kind of like the tone 800 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: of the tweet was, oh, it's big market beaten up 801 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: on small market LA, beating up in Milwaukee. Stop stop stop. 802 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: And I know that's like passive defense of the Pirates 803 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: on the Pirates flagship station. But stop, that's not what 804 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: this is. This is an NL Championship series. That team, 805 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: the Brewers, got this far. This isn't about payroll. But 806 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: it's won best of seven series. The Pirates beat the 807 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: Dodgers a couple times this year. Okay, that's not what 808 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: the friggin Brewers came out of a division that have 809 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: the Cubs in it and the Cardinals, who're not a 810 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: big market. If they spend big, that's not a factor here, 811 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: all right, Like, let's not play that that sad song 812 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 1: on behalf of the small market teams here. Now, there's 813 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: different times. Let's worry about that when the CBA is up. 814 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: That's not what this is about. The Dodgers just might 815 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: be better. Eight three three, four thirty nine. Kevin's calling 816 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: from the North Hills. Kevin, you're on one o five 817 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: nine the X. 818 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: Hey, Tim, how are you good? 819 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 4: Yeah? 820 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 7: The Dodgers might not just be better, they are better. 821 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 7: I mean I think this is their thirteenth posts. He's 822 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 7: in appearance. They're they're looking to repeat for sure. But 823 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 7: my question for you, Tim is about the Steelers. If 824 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 7: the hallmark of the like a championship team is that 825 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 7: you make adjustments and get better as the year goes on. 826 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 7: So you we could speak come playoff time. Do you 827 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 7: really see that happening with Tomlin and Austin and this defense, 828 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 7: which with the way they coach this defense. 829 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 1: Well, if you frame it that way, no, But I 830 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: also think there's a player component to this in Maybe 831 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: this is something to do with adjustments, or maybe it's 832 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: just how things work. When they've got an eighteen week, 833 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: seventeen game season, this is usually the time when the 834 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: defense is great, and I thought we had started to 835 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: see that over the last two and a half weeks, 836 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: where the defense was flying around, making plays, hitting guys hard, 837 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: jarring the ball loose, sacking the quarterback, putting themselves in 838 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: position for turnovers. This time of year, October November is 839 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: usually when the defense ascends. Then they get banged up, 840 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: they have some injury attrition, their bodies break down, and 841 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: they just aren't as good at the back half of 842 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: the seasons. Part of the reason why they collapse all 843 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: the time. It's not always about the quarterback and the offense. 844 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 1: In fact, it's usually in the back half of the 845 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: year more about the defense. Does that have to do 846 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: with coaching adjustments, I don't know. Maybe, or maybe it's 847 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: because they are too reliant on the defense when they're 848 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: usually pretty good in October and November. All I know 849 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: is this kind of loss that they have usually happens 850 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: in the early part of the season where they're trying 851 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: to figure things out offensively, or it happens in the 852 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: back half of the season when they start to deteriorate. 853 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: To have a loss like this in this part of 854 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: the calendar, to me is bad, not just because it's 855 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: a divisional loss, but because these are usually this is 856 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: usually the time of the Steelers make Hay. So it 857 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: did catch my attention on a lot of levels. 858 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, we play in the AFC. There's 859 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 7: so many good quarterbacks and potentially good passing offenses that 860 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 7: we would have to go through to make a serious 861 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 7: championship run. 862 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: That let me ask you this, I hope I'm I'll 863 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: redirected to you this very topic because I was going 864 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: to get into this anyway to open up the next hour. 865 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: So I'll just start you off with it. What are 866 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: they doing that? What's their record the next three weeks 867 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: after what you saw last night? What's their record the 868 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: next three weeks against green Bay Indian the Chargers. 869 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 7: I think I actually think they'll they'll they'll fingers and 870 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 7: toes crushed that you know, they'll play well against green 871 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 7: Bay next week at home, uh, you know, with the 872 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 7: kind of the mini buy and just to hangover from the. 873 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 2: Sting of this loss. 874 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 7: So I think they'll they'll win that game, I really do, 875 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 7: and then probably one and one and those those other two. 876 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 7: So I'm especially with the way Rogers is playing now, 877 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 7: so I'm hoping in the offensive lines as well that they'll. 878 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 2: Be two and one. 879 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Eight three, three, four, one two nine. 880 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: I'm going one and two. I've got some concerns about 881 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: how this whole green Bay thing is gonna hang over Rogers, 882 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: and if he forces the offense and forces passes like 883 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: we saw on the deep ball to DK, this will 884 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: be I think the biggest test of where Rogers is 885 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: emotionally and mentally is this game coming up against Green Bay. 886 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: Even he said it himself, the green Bay game is 887 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: a bigger deal than the Jets game. Now, if you 888 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: use the Jets game as the launching points that it 889 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: was great against the New York is gonna be even 890 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: better against Green Bay? Yeah, I hope so. But unlike 891 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: that last caller, they've got to be asking questions about 892 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: the defense, a lot of questions about the defense, because 893 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: if you looked at the last two weeks and thought 894 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: a lot of things were solved, and you see regression 895 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: like that against a team that was primed to be 896 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: kicked to the curb and beaten down unless you talked 897 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: yourself into the Flacco angle like they did. Then I 898 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: don't know what you throw at that defense to fix 899 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 1: it against perceptibly three much better teams that all could 900 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: be in the playoffs next year, So I'm going with 901 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: one and two.