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Speaker 2: So I mean, they could easily trade them. You know,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that it makes one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that that'sarily means that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: But as Tommy Radio said earlier, part of this might

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Speaker 2: If Griffin stinks then they'll be stuck with his contract.

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Speaker 2: But if he's confident or shows you know, any ability

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Speaker 2: you know, the disaster is say, you know that Griffin

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Speaker 1: I find Bucco fans to be a sociological experiment. Paul,

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Speaker 1: after a seven and five starts, which is okay, they're

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Speaker 1: on a revenge tour like these twelve games invalidate all

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Speaker 2: As much as he since two years ago they started

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Speaker 2: The problem I have with Pirates fans, well, not most pirates.

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Speaker 2: so not sure we're talking about vindication in year seven

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Speaker 1: Would Schemes have taken a similar deal two years ago

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Speaker 2: he's not desperate to have all those millions right now

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Speaker 2: he's got the ability to be patient and say, you

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Speaker 2: gonna have to get me thirty So why am I

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Speaker 2: gonna you know, why am I gonna, you know, sign

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Paul Zeiss of the Post Caazette here

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Speaker 1: by eighty four Lumber. Paul, what's Griffin's ceiling?

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Speaker 6: I see him.

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Speaker 1: Compared to Derek Jeter, even compared to Sydney Crosby, and

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Speaker 1: tough to read that far in advance for a guy who,

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Speaker 1: Schemes was on the day.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, he's nineteen years old, so you know,

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Speaker 2: the theoretically his ceiling is extremely high. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: probably what you're looking at in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 2: where he can be at probably you know, his ceiling.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think that you know, he's a guy

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Speaker 2: like again, he's nineteen, and I think he's what two

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's let's let's.

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Speaker 1: He had the two it's yesterday, so you know, including

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Speaker 1: certainly a good player. Let's see how it plays out.

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Speaker 1: What's the pirate ceiling this year?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Well, First of all, like I said, when you start

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we need to put that kind

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, but again that's the sociological experiment with pirate.

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Speaker 6: Fans and for that matter, the pirate media.

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Speaker 1: They just skipped from point A to point Z, like

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Speaker 2: probably seventy eight to eighty wins. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: I think there's there's also some moves that could be made.

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Speaker 3: If you like.

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Speaker 2: comes back and he's good. Okay, no guarantee coming off

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Speaker 2: Mitch Keller expendable. You could trade him, which means you're

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Speaker 2: saving a little bit of money, which means that you

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Speaker 5: You do it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious that the fans now are trusting

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Speaker 6: It can turn your head, don't you agree?

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Speaker 3: Quite yet.

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Speaker 1: Paul is always great stuff. Thank you for filling in

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Speaker 3: I thank you.

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Speaker 2: I talked to soon.

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Speaker 1: That's Paul's ice in the Post Caasette. Chuck got his

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Speaker 1: I love the Diana Russini story. I love that she's banging'

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Speaker 3: The Woody Show week mornings at six. Yeah, it'll be

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Speaker 8: Don't let tax refund whorries hold you back.

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Speaker 3: File now, Mark, here are the Virginia I know the

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Speaker 1: One on the X still one nil Liverpool doing almost

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Speaker 9: Diana Russini and Mike brabl thing. Okay, it's just mind bottling.

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Speaker 9: It's just mind bottling to me, like how it's accepted

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Speaker 6: Way who That's a good point. That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she said no to Brett Farr and lost her

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I just don't.

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Speaker 9: And it makes me think like if that's accepted with

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Speaker 9: in general like try to make amends with Jen Sterger

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Speaker 6: They're just they're just not going to. They're just not

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Speaker 1: Jen Sterger was much more talented, better looking, the whole package,

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Speaker 1: Brett Faarv, just the the the the outlook of journalism

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Speaker 1: Jen Starger. And I don't know why they had it

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Speaker 1: me ask you this. Let's say what happened with Sturger

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Speaker 9: I don't know. It's kind of tough to tell. I

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Speaker 9: mean for me personally, I wouldn't think it would be

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Speaker 9: just wish that she wouldn't have been like slutshamed the

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Speaker 1: Well no, I mean no, Farv was wrong, but you're

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Speaker 1: right she got slut shame for saying no, including by

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Speaker 9: And it's stupid to think that Jonathan tays is a

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah she did know, she said, a better leader.

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Speaker 6: But he's not that either.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan taes ain't a better nothing than Sydney Crossby. Thank

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Speaker 1: about the potential of the Penguins playing the Flyers in

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Speaker 6: That was the handshake line I waited my whole life for.

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Speaker 1: Because he knew and it's a series you should win,

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Speaker 1: And that scares me a little bit. It's it's uh

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Speaker 1: But I'm saving my rage and my raw ra until

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Speaker 1: it's definite, until it's here.

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Speaker 3: Glad.

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Speaker 1: The Penguins are going to make the playoffs as in well,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they've quite mathematically clinched it. I'll be

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Speaker 1: but they're okay. The Adam Martone first round pick, finished

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow nights, the Pens take on the Devils. Game time

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Speaker 1: A lot of big news with the Buckos today Connor

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Speaker 1: Griffin with.

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Speaker 6: The long term deal.

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Speaker 1: We welcome to the program America's most dangerous baseball writer.

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Speaker 1: He is John Perata.

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Speaker 3: John.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: My big question in the wake of today's signing is

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Speaker 6: He spent on a few free agents he signed Griffin.

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Speaker 1: He proclaimed that the fans deserve it is the more

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: Time will really tell.

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Speaker 5: I mean the track record is that did he won't

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Speaker 5: You know again, I'm always a little skeptical when it

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Speaker 3: But I will say this, I never would have.

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Speaker 5: Ever imagined that they would sign a player with five

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Speaker 3: That kind of stuns me.

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Speaker 6: Do you think he did that not just to tie

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Speaker 1: Because there's no doubting his talent, but also with the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that's certainly possibility. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what's going to happen.

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Speaker 5: Salary cap, why salary floor if the you know, the

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Speaker 5: I think everybody, and especially Firates have to be keeping

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Speaker 1: What is Griffin's ceiling? Like I said, there's no doubting

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Speaker 5: Well, I hate to go sound crazy with this, but

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Speaker 3: See. You know, I hate to put that.

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Speaker 5: On a nineteen year old kid, because you know how

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Speaker 3: Organization since Andrew mccutch it.

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Speaker 3: To my knowledge, they have it.

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Speaker 5: I mean when I ask Skians about it, he always

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Speaker 5: him like sixty million dollars for two years.

439
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Speaker 3: Not the pitch.

440
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Speaker 5: And I think the other thing is they just I

441
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Speaker 5: think they underestimated how good he was going to be.

442
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Speaker 3: As good as they thought he was going to be,

443
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: it's been even better.

444
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Speaker 5: And I just think that they weren't proactive like they learned.

445
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 5: I think they learned from that in this case with

446
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 5: Perferen It's like, Hey, if we have a chance to

447
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 5: lock the guy up, now, let's do it. And I'm

448
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 5: sure if they could turn back the hands of time

449
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 5: in three years, two years, they would certainly do it

450
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Speaker 5: with schemes or at least try to do schemes.

451
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Speaker 1: You bring up a good point about the potential for

452
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Speaker 1: elbow injury or Tommy John surgery John, because with the

453
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Speaker 1: picture there was much more chance of catastrophe and wasting money.

454
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Speaker 3: Exactly.

455
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Speaker 5: And that's why when you see all these young players

456
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Speaker 5: in the last couple of years, you know at lake

457
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Speaker 5: zero service time or less than a year of major

458
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Speaker 5: league service time, signing these long term extensions through all

459
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Speaker 5: position players. You don't see any team signing young pitchers

460
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Speaker 5: for like seven or eight year contracts. And that's why

461
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 5: it's it's certainly the injury risk. You know, if a

462
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 5: if a position player blows out his elbow, he might

463
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 5: miss half a season, or if a pitcher does it,

464
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 5: he might miss a year and a half. So so

465
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 5: there's certainly a lot less risk in doing it with

466
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,719
Speaker 5: a hitter than a picture.

467
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Speaker 6: What about the Pirates? Not a bad start at seven

468
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Speaker 6: and five.

469
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Speaker 1: And the guy I'm most impressed with John is Ryan O'Hearn.

470
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Speaker 1: He is just one a professional hitter, very technical. You

471
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Speaker 1: can see that even from a distance. And I spotted

472
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Speaker 1: it the first time I saw him hit.

473
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really I really am impressed by him too.

474
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Speaker 5: I mean I saw him a little bit over the

475
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Speaker 5: years Mason Royals and the Orioles and Pottery.

476
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Speaker 3: He's really the first time I've had a chance to watch.

477
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Speaker 5: Him on a daily basis in his career, and he's

478
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 5: better than I thought he was. I you know, I

479
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 5: knew he was going to help him. I knew he

480
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,719
Speaker 5: was a good a good major league hitter, but he is.

481
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 5: He's really good. And he's also you can tell he's

482
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 5: already a guy that players in the clubhouse gravitate too,

483
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 5: and just really an impressive guy to talk to and like,

484
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 5: Like he told me the other day, he said, I'm

485
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Speaker 5: thirty two, but he does, and I know most people

486
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Speaker 5: that age. You know, my best years are behind me,

487
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 5: he goes. But I finally believe my best years are

488
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 5: aheademy still And maybe he's right.

489
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Speaker 1: What's caused Cruise to come around, especially against left handed pictures.

490
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 5: I think he's gotten serious. I think he actually got

491
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Speaker 5: serious in the off season and.

492
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Speaker 3: Realize like, hey, I have a lot.

493
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Speaker 5: Of talent that I'm squandering here, and if I don't

494
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 5: be careful, I'm going to squander myself right out of

495
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 5: the league of a year or two before. You never

496
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Speaker 5: get the big Payday. I just think he's matured, you know.

497
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Speaker 5: I mean he didn't by all means from everything the

498
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 5: pirates have said. He worked, really put the extra effort

499
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Speaker 5: in this winter to work. He gets left handed pictures

500
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Speaker 5: and improve these gumps in center field. And he's still

501
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 5: you know, he's still shaky at times, but he certainly

502
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: looks better this year. He looks like he's more engaged.

503
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Speaker 5: He looks like he's not having as many mental mistakes.

504
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 3: I mean, not that he's.

505
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Speaker 5: Completely eliminated them, but I don't know, maybe maybe it's

506
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 5: just the case he's twenty seven now and he realizes, like, hey,

507
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 5: if I'm going to be the superstar, I better getting

508
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 5: gear here before my career is over.

509
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: We're talking to John Prada here on one oh five

510
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: nine the ext John would Jared Trourollo out. I'd like

511
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: to see nick Yorke get a legit long look at

512
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: third base. Gonzalez might be the devil, you know, but

513
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: I'd like to see what York's upside might be, because

514
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: if it's not much, you might have to address that

515
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline.

516
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

517
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Speaker 3: I like nick York.

518
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Speaker 5: I liked him when they picked him up from the

519
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 5: Red Sox. I like what I've seen him when he's

520
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 5: been in the big leagues a little bit the last

521
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 5: two years. I certainly like what I've seen him in

522
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 5: the first couple of weeks for this season. And you know,

523
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 5: I had a chance to talk to him market and

524
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 5: this is a guy who really loves baseball. A lot

525
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 5: of guys in the big leagues they play baseball because

526
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 5: they're good at it, they can make a lot of money.

527
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: But you can tell this guy truly truly loves the game.

528
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 5: And when you get players like that, they will almost

529
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 5: always maximize their talent. And I always bet on somebody

530
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: like him to be a better player than maybe that

531
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Speaker 5: he would be expected to be.

532
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Speaker 6: Here's my two problems right now. One is the defense.

533
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Speaker 1: They're just awful defensively, which is quite a switch and

534
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: roof from what they've been for a number of years.

535
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: And number two is the pitchers walk too many guys.

536
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: I guess neither one is surprised. But let's start with

537
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: the fielding, John, how do you fix it?

538
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if you do.

539
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 5: I think it was the trade off you have more offense,

540
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 5: and they knew that when they made their moves.

541
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Speaker 3: This offseason.

542
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 5: Their defense certainly wouldn't be as good as it's been

543
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 5: the last few years. I'm not sure how you fix

544
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 5: it other than just keep working at it, but I

545
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 5: think that's just gonna have to be part of the

546
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 5: trade off so they don't finish last in the league

547
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 5: and runs sport again. I think Geryfinal will definitely shore

548
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 5: up the infield defense. I think he already has already,

549
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 5: just in a little bit of time he's been there,

550
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 5: and I think you could end up being a pretty

551
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 5: decent third basement. I think Nick and Zalez could end

552
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 5: up being a pretty decent third baseman. But they're going

553
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 5: to have to live with some of this and try

554
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 5: to make up for it by scoring some more runs.

555
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: Well, worries me is Reynolds and left and Cruise in center.

556
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: Every ball he had anywhere near both of them is

557
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: an adventure. And I knew that Reynolds wouldn't do better

558
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: and Left, especially at PNC.

559
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 6: But Cruise has like made no progress in center.

560
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 3: Has he not a whole lot? And that's worrisome to me.

561
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: You know, last year I gave him a mulligan because

562
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: it was his first position and he was awful. I mean,

563
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 5: but I thought, Okay, he'll get better. But you know, again,

564
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 5: it's only two weeks. But I haven't seen anything so

565
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: far to suggest that he's getting any better out there.

566
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 5: And you know, at some point, you can't have a

567
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 5: center fielder that can't run down balls. I mean, you've

568
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 5: got to have a good defense of center field. I

569
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 5: don't care if you're a good team, a bad team,

570
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 5: or a team in between.

571
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: And he's just a orderline offul out there.

572
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: I want to get to the Pirates' control problems in particular. Well,

573
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: let's start with Bubba chan Or. That really worries me.

574
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: There's no denying his stuff. But boy, he's all over

575
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: the place so far.

576
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: He really is, and this surprises me.

577
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 5: You know, he had that problem early on in his

578
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 5: pro career in the minor leagues, and he seemed to

579
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 5: outgrow and he got to the upper levels of the

580
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 5: farm system.

581
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: Then last year when he was up, he only walked four.

582
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 5: Guys in forty six innings, So I figured, you know,

583
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 5: any control problems were kind of a thing of the

584
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 5: past because he got in older, he's learned to consistently throws.

585
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 3: Strikes, and that really surprises me.

586
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 5: What's happened to his first two starts, walking ten guys

587
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 5: in lighton eating two thirds whatever news innings, something that is.

588
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: Definitely gonna be need to be fixed.

589
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 5: You know, I know I'm not breaking a new ground there,

590
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 5: but I just I didn't see this coming. I'm really

591
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: really surprised that he's have this kind of control problem.

592
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: Well, we talked a couple of weeks ago John about

593
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, Kurt Shilling's theory about max effort, and he

594
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: applied that to Chandler. Does he overthrow sometimes? Because as

595
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned, when he came up, his control was fine,

596
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: but that was a little bit into the season. Maybe

597
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: he had kind of you know what I mean when

598
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I say warned his arm din a little bit. Maybe

599
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: he was no longer overthrowing.

600
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 5: Well, you know, like a lot of pictures now, they

601
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 5: just try to throw as hard as they can. And

602
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 5: you know, he can talk out at one hundred and

603
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 5: hundred and one, and I think he tries to rear.

604
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 3: Back and do that.

605
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: And you know, one time it used to be, hey,

606
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 5: dial it down a little and throw strikes. And I

607
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 5: think his stuff's good enough that he can dial it

608
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: down to ninety seven or ninety eight and throw more strikes.

609
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 5: I mean, it's not like he's going to become very

610
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 5: hittable all of a sudden, throwing even that hard. So

611
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: it'll be interesting. I know one thing, he's one of

612
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 5: the few guys there in the last few years who

613
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: actually take the accountability for his problems. He was very

614
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: upset together after his start, and he vowed to fix it.

615
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: And you know, I get to feeling this guy.

616
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 5: See he's a pretty good competitor, and I think he'll

617
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 5: do what it takes to try to get this control

618
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 5: problem solved here.

619
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Speaker 6: How's the bullpen goot a shakedown?

620
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: Because it's been a bit of a weakness so far,

621
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: not at least today because Keller, you know, came out

622
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: after six innings and threw up all zeros. Who's going

623
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: to be a what role when it when it coalesces

624
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: into what they wanted to be?

625
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: John? You know that that's a good question. I think.

626
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 5: I like the back end combo, the lefty Soto and

627
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 5: the righty Santain.

628
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: I think that's a real solid there.

629
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,239
Speaker 5: But you know it, since after that, it's really up

630
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 5: in the air. I know they would like justin Lawrence

631
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 5: to take over. You know, seventh inning role or earth

632
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 5: sixth inning role. I think guys like Mattson is fine

633
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 5: in the seventh inning role, but they're looking for Lawrence

634
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 5: to really stayed less at bullpen after coming off the

635
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 5: jury last year.

636
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: And the other the other uh who they would hope.

637
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: Could end up being a really good pitcher is left

638
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: hand or Mason Montgomery, one of the guys they got

639
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 5: in the trade with the Devil Rays with law and Magnum,

640
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 5: and so far he hasn't shown you but would even

641
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: throw streaks either, So it'll be interesting. Like I said that,

642
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 5: the last three in that pat I think are pretty good,

643
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: but it's really shaky right now when you get beyond

644
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 5: those three.

645
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: Skis was amazing yesterday and so often is. And I've

646
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: been saying, John, the Powers need a good start. If

647
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: they get off to a good start and stay above

648
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: five hundred, you know, into May, skims will keep them

649
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: single handedly from having long losing streaks.

650
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

651
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah. I think that's the great thing about him.

652
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 5: And I'm really cureiou is how many games he's gonna

653
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 5: win this year now that he actually should theoretically did

654
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: some offensive sport. I mean, you know, he got seven

655
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 5: runs last night, though only two when he was in

656
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 5: the game.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean, this guy's really good.

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Speaker 5: You know the bottom mark, because it's what made it

659
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Speaker 5: even more impressive. It's the whole time he's been up,

660
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 5: since they called him up two years ago. He's always pitched,

661
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: it seems, in every game with no margin for air,

662
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Speaker 5: like if he had a lead with only o'bron or

663
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 5: they're down by a run or sit high game. Very

664
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Speaker 5: rarely is he had a game where he's like up

665
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Speaker 5: four or five runs. Maybe not necessarily coast, but don't

666
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 5: have to take every pitch like the games on the line.

667
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: Well, any pitcher, not just the Pirates, John, but any

668
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: pitcher in MLB ever pitching no hitter Again, look at

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Speaker 1: Chandler and Skins both on occasions this year. I mean

670
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Skins lost to no hitter like in what the six yesterday,

671
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Speaker 1: but he would not have finished. Chamber got taken out

672
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Speaker 1: after a four and a third no hit hittings, And

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Speaker 1: I get it. I just don't want to get it.

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Speaker 5: I know what you mean, and I think it's just

675
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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's going back.

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Speaker 3: You know, I know most things are no cyclical.

677
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Speaker 5: Now we're seeing stolen bases again after they pretty much

678
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Speaker 5: we're pretty much eliminated from the game there for about

679
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Speaker 5: ten years, I hope, because I'm in the same but

680
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 5: you are. I like guys that could go to the distance,

681
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 5: pitch nine innings, pitch a shout out, or even you know,

682
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Speaker 5: allow a couple of fronts. And I mean when a

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Speaker 5: complete game now it's almost like a no hitter, Like

684
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Speaker 5: that's how rare it is. And it's just I don't know,

685
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 5: you have so many you know, pitch counts and all

686
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: these biomechanical things saying guys shouldn't throw over one hundred pitches.

687
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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure I buy it.

688
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Speaker 5: And I'm not a scientist either, but I'd like to

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Speaker 5: see pitchers go a little bit longer.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on the division so far? For a

691
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Speaker 1: while it was a bad division. Now I think it's

692
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Speaker 1: a very tight division top to bottom.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, I think, you know, I think the Brewers

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Speaker 3: the Brewers.

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Speaker 5: It's just kind of accept the fact that regardless of

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Speaker 5: who's on the Brewers roster, they're going to be good

697
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Speaker 5: every year.

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Speaker 3: And I think the Cubs have a really good team.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, they've had a couple of pitching injuries,

700
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Speaker 5: which is is no and set them back. I you know,

701
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Speaker 5: I think the Reds are pretty good. They're off to

702
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 5: a good starts. And the Pirates are pretty good. I think,

703
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 5: you know, they're a legitimate contending team. I don't know

704
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 5: whether they'll get to the playoffs or high and really

705
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Speaker 5: only the Cardinals are the only team, and it's basically

706
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Speaker 5: because they're rebuilding, but they still have some pretty good

707
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 5: young players and it's not like they're just roll over.

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Speaker 3: And die this year. So yeah, that's a really good division.

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Speaker 6: From top the box, JP is always great stuff. I

710
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Speaker 6: appreciate the insight. We'll talk again real soon. Enjoy the

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Speaker 6: baseball sounds.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Mart, appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: That's John brought up America's most dangerous baseball writer. Now

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Speaker 1: it's time to ask Mark anything a three three four

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Speaker 1: one two wsdx that's eight three three four one two wxdx.

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00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: Or you can leave a talk back via the microphone

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Speaker 1: icon at the iHeart Media app. Also, you can check

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Speaker 1: me out at Freezing Cold Takes and All Takes Exposed,

719
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: because apparently expecting the Pirates to do wrong.

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Speaker 6: Made you stupid when they did stuff right for.

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Speaker 1: The first time, and I don't know what ten fifteen

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Speaker 1: years A three three four one two WXDX.

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Speaker 5: Every weekday at ten am is Travis starting your workday

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Speaker 5: commercial freight on one nine DX.

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Speaker 8: This is the NFL Draft report on iHeartRadio, brought to

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Speaker 8: you by your neighborhood DX at one oh five nine.

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Speaker 6: Thank Christ stants over only two nil at Paris.

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Speaker 1: Not that we're gonna come back at infield, but just

729
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: thank God it's over. And I can't wait for the

730
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: season to be over. I've not felt that way about

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Speaker 1: a Liverpool season in many years.

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Speaker 6: But my eyes do not deceive.

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Speaker 1: There's there's talking about all the stolen cones now from

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Speaker 1: uh roadwork sites around Pittsburgh. Well, are people supposed to

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Speaker 1: get their cones? Is there a cone store? Can you

736
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Speaker 1: get them at I don't know, can you get them

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Speaker 1: at home depot? I imagine you might be able to

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Speaker 1: what's wrong with if you stolen cones?

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Speaker 6: We're all pittsburgher's here. I love that people are saying that.

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Speaker 1: Signing Griffin today's one of the best days in Pirate's history. Yeah,

741
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Speaker 1: that says a lot about Pirate's history, especially since last

742
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: winning a playoff series in nineteen seventy nine, when you're

743
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Speaker 1: talking about Quato dropping the ball and I was signing

744
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Speaker 1: a nineteen year old kid with a week's Major League

745
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Speaker 1: time as being great days in club history, you're inadvertently

746
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: saying something not great about the club history. But now

747
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Speaker 1: it's time to ask mark anything brought to us by

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Speaker 1: people's natural gas, people's and the sense of utilities companies,

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Speaker 1: safe reliable natural gas energy, people's hyphengas dot com.

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Speaker 6: Let's go to Steve. Steve, you're on with double M

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Speaker 6: Afternoon Afternoon.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, my question is about goaltender interference or across

753
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 7: the league. It's baffling coaches and fans alike. How do

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Speaker 7: you see them resolving that they've got to do something

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Speaker 7: for next year?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the idea of them having one standard they

758
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: stick to every call is foreign to the NHL, and

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Speaker 1: not just in this situation.

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Speaker 6: Ever.

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00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: They want to get a different They want a broad definition,

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Speaker 1: and I'll be blunt that way, they can give certain

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Speaker 1: teams an advantage or a disadvantage, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: If it's cut and dry, then it's the same for everybody,

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Speaker 1: and they don't want it to be the same for everybody.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not directly saying that it's a conspiracy type

767
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: thing where they're they're favoring teams over the other. But

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Speaker 1: I think in the moment they give certain teams the advantage.

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Speaker 1: Does that add up to you? Does that make sense?

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Speaker 9: It does?

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Speaker 7: But do you think they could possibly bring back the

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Speaker 7: crease rule where they would, you know, nullify anything with

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Speaker 7: somebody in front of the net if in the crease.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but they mangled that too. They just don't want

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Speaker 1: anything to be uniform. Thank you for the call. And

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you why except what I just said.

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Speaker 1: It sounds absurd, but it's an absurd league. It's a

778
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: horribly run league. Then again, to be blunt, tell me

779
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: one league in North America of the four major sports

780
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: leagues that's won. Well, I'll hang up and listen. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to the Montroy Boy Toy MTBT, you're on with double.

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Speaker 2: M double, it's the Montroy Boy Toy. I know, Hey,

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Speaker 2: Sharon Stone or Jennifer Aniston.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston, don't you think she's she's like more clean cut?

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Speaker 6: I think she looked well. Stone's older, correct.

786
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Speaker 9: I gotta think so.

787
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Speaker 6: Stone was in that sequel.

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Speaker 1: To Nobody Nobody Too, and she was the heel and

789
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: she still looked pretty good. But Jennifer Aniston, I mean,

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00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: to this day, looks just like a star. So I'd

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Speaker 1: go with Jim.

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Speaker 6: Let's go. Let's go to Kyle. Kyle ask Mark anything,

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Speaker 6: good day, sir? I said, good day.

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 9: Every year on Opening Day, I have a family member

796
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 9: who tell me that this year is going to be

797
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 9: different for the Pirates and there's a long reason why.

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00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 9: And I always say, let's wait till the All Star Break.

799
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 9: What would we need to see from this team or

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Speaker 9: what point during the season would you feel comfortable thinking

801
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 9: they might actually be onto something?

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Speaker 6: Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: For me to believe they actually are going to be

804
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: onto something, they would have to have continued commitment, like

805
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: notting was talking about today to win it.

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00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 6: So I will believe in this team.

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00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: If they get to the All Star excuse me, the

808
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: trade deadline, which is early August, are in contention, and

809
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: they add to try to become even better payroll talent,

810
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: they add, that's what will convince me.

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Speaker 2: How about you, hey, from your mouth to God's ears.

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00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what it would take than that. I don't

813
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 6: trust this guy.

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00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: He's a hillbilly grifter, just spewing double tucking jive, and

815
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: until he proves otherwise, I don't believe him. I do

816
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: not trust him, and Pirate fans should should remember it

817
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: was just last September you were channing sell the team

818
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: and now you're lining up for his autograph because you're

819
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: just easily I don't want to say easily fooled, you're

820
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: easily encouraged. You want so bad to believe that you're stupid.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts please on the NHL playoff format. Do you

823
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: like this current system that they have or do you

824
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: think there should be a one through eight seed system implemented.

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Speaker 1: I think the way it is now minimized his travel

826
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Speaker 1: and the NHL is not a league to can squander dollars.

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Speaker 1: I saw somebody said you should do one versus sixteen. Okay,

828
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Speaker 1: what if you did one versus sixteen? You know, seated

829
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Speaker 1: the whole league, not just the conferences and not just

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Speaker 1: the division. You expanded to the whole league. What if

831
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: the first round series was Tampa and Vancouver. How about

832
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: that travel bill? How about the wear and tear on

833
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Speaker 1: the players. So would I prefer a one versus eight

834
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Speaker 1: seeding encompassing the entire conference East on one side, West

835
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Speaker 1: on the other.

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Speaker 6: I would prefer that. Yeah, But do I think this

837
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Speaker 6: is catastrophically stupid? No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: And I remember in sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen when the

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Speaker 1: real Stanley Cup Final. Every one of those years was

840
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: played in the second round between Pittsburgh and Washington. And

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Speaker 1: even though those series came early, I'm just glad we

842
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: got to see him because they were fantastic hockey. And

843
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: this year, with Dallas and Minnesota playing in the first round,

844
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: can't wait to see that series. And if you get

845
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: beaten the first round, well you weren't gonna win in

846
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: any way. So why not get golfing? Lee's a line

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Speaker 1: open eight three three four one two WSDX. Let's go

848
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Speaker 1: to another talkback Mark.

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Speaker 8: If someone had the legit hittimate.

850
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Speaker 7: Ability to accurately tell you your date and manner of death,

851
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 7: would you want to know why or why not?

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Speaker 2: Thanks?

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Speaker 6: I would not want to know.

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00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: I think that would be a horrible burden to carry

855
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: around every day, and as the day got closer, I

856
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: think it would just make you panic. So no, I

857
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: would absolutely not want to know. I love when people say, well,

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Speaker 1: you have a a destiny, you have a pre said date.

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00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: God knows, God what, God, Please give me a break,

860
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: Give me a freaking break, destiny. What if your destiny

861
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: is to die on I don't know September fifteenth, You know,

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00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: twenty thirty seven. But tomorrow you step out in front

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00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: of a bus, will the bus be paying attention to destiny?

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00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 6: I don't think so. You just live and then you die.

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Speaker 6: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Twenty New Orleans