Speaker 1: Mac. I think we have a appall a ge after
Speaker 1: our award winning Hall Hall of Fame. A couple names
Speaker 1: that were left off. One that I threw at you
Speaker 1: on the end of the week. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: we forgot Taylor Hall. You immediately said doesn't deserve to
Speaker 1: be in there. That's fine, but a mention would have
Speaker 1: been nice. Sure, once again, these are halls to get
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame, halls to get into the
Speaker 1: Hall Hall of Fame, the Hall Hall, Hall, Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: the Hall Hall, Hallmark, apology to Hallmark Hallmarks should be
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. You know what, we didn't
Speaker 1: think it through.
Speaker 2: Cool. Let me let me be the first to apologize to.
Speaker 1: All the apologize alcoholics, Alcoholics, huh, chocoholics, hallics in general,
Speaker 1: all hollics should have gotten in to the Hall Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, or you could have went through and like
Speaker 1: weed it out.
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm saying, fans of the Hall Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame are alcoholics. Oh shit, That's what I'm calling them.
Speaker 1: And you thought about this since last Thursday when we.
Speaker 2: I thought about this an hour ago and I saw
Speaker 2: your opener.
Speaker 1: So you would like to apologize.
Speaker 2: I'd like to apologize to the alcoholics.
Speaker 1: And then one that was pointed out to us on
Speaker 1: social media and should have been a first ballot. He'll
Speaker 1: be top of the board next year when we do
Speaker 1: our Hall Hall of Fame second class, second class. Scott Hall, Zormon.
Speaker 2: Razor ramone should have been on the the opening ballot.
Speaker 2: That's an oversight in our part.
Speaker 1: Scott Hall, Hallmark. Those are two that are going to
Speaker 1: be in on the second So you can start getting
Speaker 1: your you can start planning your trip now for year
Speaker 1: two of the Hall Hall of Fame. One Goo three, Yeah,
Speaker 1: job three, King of Queen Marl Street Entertainment. I'm good
Speaker 1: and I'm mad he or the Mac and Gooop program.
Speaker 1: I swear it gets better. A.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying no.
Speaker 1: You know what, Well, the content that we consumed I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if the content of this show gets
Speaker 1: much better.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, good point about that. Number two A kickflip
Speaker 2: A Christ's three sixty. Christ Air, that's some messing everything up,
Speaker 2: christ Air. Off of your point about the content that
Speaker 2: you enjoyed. I'm curious people's receptions this. I know what
Speaker 2: the online scores say. I'm curious what the online reception
Speaker 2: is to people that we respect and our listeners go.
Speaker 2: Because I haven't seen like any tweets about this show,
Speaker 2: which has been a little weird.
Speaker 1: I'm also curious and maybe they fudge numbers, but Spider
Speaker 1: Noir is number one, the number one show at least
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, because it's the only new show on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean shit.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, today we are discussing Spider Noir. This hit
Speaker 2: Amazon Prime on May twenty fifth. It dropped all eight episodes,
Speaker 2: which I love. That's how I prefer to consume all
Speaker 2: of my media shows. Whatever it is. Uhu. This is
Speaker 2: a TV fourteen action adventure, crime, drama, fantasy, mystery and
Speaker 2: sci fi subgenres of period drama and.
Speaker 1: Super You can only watch it once a month.
Speaker 2: I will say for being a serious titled Spider Noir,
Speaker 2: in having a private investigator be your titular character, there
Speaker 2: really wasn't much of an investigator or mystery here. It
Speaker 2: was all out front.
Speaker 1: But he's a private dick. It's a private cos a
Speaker 1: private cock. He's able to so because of his you know,
Speaker 1: he's dipping his toes all over the place. He doesn't
Speaker 1: need to do a ton of problem solving. He has
Speaker 1: the answers already.
Speaker 2: Well, I I'd say, right off the top here goo
Speaker 2: not to show my hand. But I think my biggest
Speaker 2: disappointment with this show is there was no real you know,
Speaker 2: investigation mystery at its core. It just was it's just real,
Speaker 2: like interesting.
Speaker 1: There was a little bit when it comes to who
Speaker 1: has the powers, how they got them, who did it
Speaker 1: to them.
Speaker 2: All sudden, that was a minor thing.
Speaker 1: It really wasn't about you know, who the rat is,
Speaker 1: but it's about how to cover up the rat, which
Speaker 1: I did enjoy.
Speaker 2: It really just became a character study and.
Speaker 1: I like that though.
Speaker 2: And in you know, round it out for the audience
Speaker 2: who Ben Riley is or the as Yeah, which is
Speaker 2: that a spoiler? We'll save that.
Speaker 1: Also, May I ask you this you just mentioned tipping
Speaker 1: your hand, showing your hand. Can we find a way
Speaker 1: to have like the pocket like how it shows what
Speaker 1: the people have in their hand, where the audience can
Speaker 1: see what's in your hand. But I can't explain yourself
Speaker 1: the World Series of Poker that what you rage?
Speaker 2: Do you want the pocket camp?
Speaker 1: I want the pocket gam for the World Series of Poker.
Speaker 2: You didn't mention the word poker or card once when
Speaker 2: describing that.
Speaker 1: That was very abusive, also curious. I'm not telling you
Speaker 1: to buy it. You can buy it if you want,
Speaker 1: all right, I want you to get those lizard glasses
Speaker 1: that whats his name had? Who was it?
Speaker 2: Like the uh chrockle of reddick glasses like the oak
Speaker 2: leaves from the early was.
Speaker 1: The poker player who had the lizard? Oh you're talking.
Speaker 2: About Greg Ramer? Thank you Greg Ramer with the circular
Speaker 2: little lizard eye glasses. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I used to go and play table cards, that's
Speaker 1: what we call Foxwoods and Mohegan, I would always dress
Speaker 1: as a nerd because no one would ever suspect the
Speaker 1: nerd at being good at cards.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The numbers guy would never know numbers.
Speaker 1: That I always seemed to be counting in the corner.
Speaker 2: Good Spider Noir, speaking of numbers, was eight episodes that
Speaker 2: total three hundred and sixty nine very nice minutes, averaged
Speaker 2: about forty six minutes per episode. I thought the episode
Speaker 2: length was very good. Wasn't too short, It wasn't too long.
Speaker 1: Also the amount of episodes also good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was pretty good. Crisp so one
Speaker 2: of a breeze. I do think we could have worked
Speaker 2: in a little more substance to our story. And that's
Speaker 2: sort of what I'm talking about with.
Speaker 1: The lack of like you have more problem solved and
Speaker 1: you have more crime solve.
Speaker 2: A little more.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's a police officer though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's sort of like if you're gonna sell
Speaker 2: us on the noir themes, like the crime drama, it
Speaker 2: lacked it a little bit. It was more character heavy
Speaker 2: than it was story.
Speaker 1: I think the noir of it was really more just
Speaker 1: to push the black and white of it all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I would argue was the second best version
Speaker 2: to watch this show too.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight you with this.
Speaker 2: It really lacked in the noir thing.
Speaker 1: You and my wife. I'm gonna fight you both on this.
Speaker 2: Goose Spider Noir on Roddy T's ninety two percent from
Speaker 2: the critics, ninety three percent from the audience, So everyone's
Speaker 2: watching this and liking it. A seventy two on Metacritic,
Speaker 2: pretty strong score. So in general, this show is being praised,
Speaker 2: But once again, I do find it weird, you know,
Speaker 2: when it comes to even like The Boys or any
Speaker 2: other comic books thing we watch. It dominates media, YouTube,
Speaker 2: videos for two three four weeks a month. There's been
Speaker 2: a surprising lack of media content around it.
Speaker 1: That's because look, it is a spider Man, but not really.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they had the tiptoe around it. And it
Speaker 2: feels like it's lack like these scores for example. I
Speaker 2: don't know how to compare it to anything else, but
Speaker 2: like a Marvel movie, Baseline is gonna make one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty to two hundred million opening weekend. Right. This
Speaker 2: feels like if it was in the box office, it
Speaker 2: would have had a man do and grogu like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no experience, it would have money into it with
Speaker 1: like we have a smaller production budget and we're expecting less.
Speaker 2: Well, it had a four hundred million dollar production budget.
Speaker 1: Whatever I just said, I edited that right out of there.
Speaker 2: I think it was like two or three times higher.
Speaker 2: It's four hundred million dollars on this I think. I
Speaker 2: thought that's what I read credits, That's what I read.
Speaker 1: I like how it looked.
Speaker 2: It looks good, yeah, especially in color.
Speaker 1: Also, let's throw this out there, Amazon, they got money
Speaker 1: to spend. Who gets sure to do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they sure do. I'm googling it right now. Goo,
Speaker 2: what do you got a no budget. Yeah, costs proximately
Speaker 2: four hundred million dollars for this season.
Speaker 1: How do they expect to make that back? What was
Speaker 1: the ROI don't know. No, No, So I do want
Speaker 1: Prime to do what Apple TV does. Is that what
Speaker 1: it's called Apple streaming, Apple TV plus, Apple TV plus.
Speaker 1: I want them to start doing what they do where
Speaker 1: the Apple Channel and Amazon Prime. That's like an add
Speaker 1: on to what they're already like making their money on.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what Prime is. You get Prime with Amazon prop.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like, go into these not expecting
Speaker 1: to like, don't expect this show to raise your app
Speaker 1: just make it and make it good.
Speaker 2: You have described the essence of Prime this whole time.
Speaker 1: I know that. But what I'm trying to say, though,
Speaker 1: is that Apple TV plus whatever it's called, loses billions
Speaker 1: of dollars every year on what they're putting out. But
Speaker 1: they're putting out really good quality things. But they know
Speaker 1: that they're not making their money off of that. It's
Speaker 1: just a fun little thing. That's what I want Prime
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: Sure. Sure. Spider Noir was created for television by orin Uziel.
Speaker 2: I hope I'm saying his name correctly, Oran Uziel. He
Speaker 2: was the writer on twenty two Jump Street, The Cloverfield Paradox,
Speaker 2: Mortal Kombat, and The Lost City. So he's had a
Speaker 2: pretty successful fifteen or seventy fast his upcoming projects if
Speaker 2: you liked everything he's done or most I like it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's writing the Fast Forever movie, the Pokemon Detective Pikachu sequel,
Speaker 2: and the Clue movie. That is an interesting triumph of movies.
Speaker 1: That is interesting, and I think half of those get
Speaker 1: made possibly, so.
Speaker 2: We'll get one and a half of those three movies.
Speaker 2: Synopsis of Spider Noir. Ben Riley, a seasoned, down on
Speaker 2: his luck private investigator a gunshoe in nineteen thirties New York,
Speaker 2: is forced to grapple with his past life following a
Speaker 2: deeply personal tragedy as the city's one and only superhero.
Speaker 2: This show stars Nicholas Cage as the one and only
Speaker 2: superhero Ben Riley aka of the Spider, notably not called
Speaker 2: spider Man because they're not allowed to call him spider Man.
Speaker 2: The sponsor, they're not allowed to use the name Peter Parker,
Speaker 2: which we'll get.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I did some research. We talked
Speaker 1: last week about Like, why don't we call them dix anymore?
Speaker 1: Around the nineteen fifties, when people started to use dick
Speaker 1: as slang for penis went out of fashion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that makes sense, That makes sense.
Speaker 1: You want to hear some other pulp and classic slang
Speaker 1: for detectives? Sure, gum shoes. I've already said that one
Speaker 1: private I PI dick, private dick, Seamus interesting hawkshaw?
Speaker 2: Never heard of that?
Speaker 1: Hawkshaw is an old fashioned term for an incredibly sharp
Speaker 1: and observant detective. I guess you could say that about
Speaker 1: me when looking into these shows and movies moreel Hawkshaw Goo?
Speaker 2: What are your favorites? Lamar and Morris plays Robbie Robertson
Speaker 2: here a reporter Lee John Lee as Cat Hardy, who
Speaker 2: is essentially a variation of Felicia Hardy. You know they
Speaker 2: call her that cat Hardy black Cat for a reason.
Speaker 2: We last saw her in Sinners. She was pretty great
Speaker 2: in Sinners, very frustrating in Sinners. Karen Rodriguez is Janet Ruiz.
Speaker 2: She's the one that works with Ben into the private
Speaker 2: eye business. Abraham Papoola What a name? Papula as Lonnie
Speaker 2: Lincoln aka Tombstone that's one of our villains we see
Speaker 2: this season. Jack Houston as Flip Marco aka Sandman, another villain.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting too that they can't use Spider Man
Speaker 2: and Peter Parker but they can use some of his villains.
Speaker 1: But no, so I feel like, yes, it says sand Man,
Speaker 1: but the way it's pronouncing the show, it is sand Man.
Speaker 1: They have separated it. It is no longer sand Man.
Speaker 2: Andrew Lewis Caldwell as dirk Leyden Lighten aka Mega Watt,
Speaker 2: which is not a villain.
Speaker 1: I've ever heard of Electro. It's not an electron. Call
Speaker 1: him Electro. Yeah, it's not on Electro.
Speaker 2: Brendan Gleeson as like the kingpin of the show Gangs.
Speaker 1: So you know what, I loved him. I love a
Speaker 1: good iron silvermin.
Speaker 2: He was great.
Speaker 1: I love a good Irish Brogue and I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: and not do it during this podcast, but for four
Speaker 1: straight days I was going back and forth with Irish
Speaker 1: Brogue and Nicholas Cage Broke. To my wife, I'm sure
Speaker 1: she was having a great time.
Speaker 2: Silver Main gu the character that Brendan Gleason is playing,
Speaker 2: I've never heard of before. But just your classic gangster
Speaker 2: type characters.
Speaker 1: Didn't They got it from Guccie Main. He has a main, right,
Speaker 1: he's not a man.
Speaker 2: Silvermin's top two henchmen, Perry and Pudge, are played by
Speaker 2: Scott MacArthur and Joe Massingill.
Speaker 1: One of those fellas is from Skull the Oh. I
Speaker 1: wish they called them Balkan Skull or Bebop and rock Steady.
Speaker 2: You would you would recognize Scott MacArthur more than yes.
Speaker 1: Scott MacArthur, I think is in the basketball show with
Speaker 1: I Keep forgetting her name, Goldie Han's daughter, Kate Hudson.
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson, Ollie Hudson's sister.
Speaker 2: Also in this show, Goo Michael Kostroff as Mayor Alfred
Speaker 2: Morris lucas hass Is Winston. That's like the top right
Speaker 2: hand man for Silver Maine. And then Carrie Christopher as Frankie.
Speaker 2: That's the little kid that just pops up a couple times.
Speaker 2: Uh notably here, Goo Randall Ogisby Oglesby plays Chief McNamara,
Speaker 2: So I had to shot your name. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 2: my name. And then Jack mckssel plays Addison. That's the
Speaker 2: firearm guy that we see in the first couple.
Speaker 1: I think my biggest issue with the names here is
Speaker 1: Lucas hass as Winston because he shares the screen a
Speaker 1: lot with Lamar and Morris, who famously played a character
Speaker 1: named Winston. I got confused a couple times.
Speaker 2: Also, this firearm character was an original character created for
Speaker 2: the series, not a comic book character, which is fine.
Speaker 2: He's only exists for a couple episodes. Uh goo. Speaking
Speaker 2: of the oddities of this show, a couple things here.
Speaker 2: You might be wondering why the fuck this is on
Speaker 2: Sony not Disney Plus. Well, as we all know, Sony
Speaker 2: owns the rights to Spider I wasn't confused. Many of
Speaker 2: the characters are you talking about the audience? Are me
Speaker 2: the audience? But there are several Spider Man shows on
Speaker 2: Disney Plus skew and ones that have been created in
Speaker 2: the last decade, So it is a little bizarre that
Speaker 2: this one gets bumped out to Amazon. And that's because
Speaker 2: Sony Pictures Television has an exclusive global distribution and development
Speaker 2: deal with Amazon MGM Studios. So because Onny owns the
Speaker 2: cinematic rights to the Spider Man character, they license their
Speaker 2: live action spin offs to platforms outside of Disney.
Speaker 1: And MGM Studio. They love old stuff, so this is
Speaker 1: a right up the rally.
Speaker 2: I suppose Disney could have bought this, but they would
Speaker 2: have been essentially bidding against themselves.
Speaker 1: So I think they also try to not buy things
Speaker 1: that is not in their universe or does not fold
Speaker 1: into universe more than they already are, because we're already
Speaker 1: super confused. Like get this. They have a character named
Speaker 1: Winston who shares a screen with an actor who played
Speaker 1: someone named Winston.
Speaker 2: Adding to the confusion of this all. Most of us
Speaker 2: were first introduced to Spider Noir in Spider Man, the
Speaker 2: Spider Verse movies, the two movies we've seen him in.
Speaker 2: This is not the same character, not as that Spider
Speaker 2: Noir in the Spider Verse movies. This character is merely
Speaker 2: inspired by that character.
Speaker 1: So what they told us is this is the same character. Not.
Speaker 2: We open the very first shot, the very versa line
Speaker 2: of dialogue is someone once asked me what universe just was,
Speaker 2: which implies it is tied in to the multiverse. But
Speaker 2: this isn't the Spider Noir we know. And we also
Speaker 2: get gou As I mentioned, he's not Peter Parker, He's
Speaker 2: named Ben Riley, Traditionally, Spider and Noir is a Peter
Speaker 2: Parker variant. He's also called the Spider and not spider
Speaker 2: Man because they can't do that.
Speaker 1: It's a lot like Gotham. Gotham couldn't use certain words
Speaker 1: or characters.
Speaker 2: And the middle note here? Should I save that for spoilers?
Speaker 1: What's your middle note? Now? Save it for spoilers?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Say it for spoilers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really a spoiler.
Speaker 1: So there's a couple of spoiler free notes that I
Speaker 1: would like to share. First and foremost cigarettes are cool.
Speaker 2: Cigarettes are cool in the nineteen.
Speaker 1: Thirties, watching shows like this, watching mad Men, say to myself,
Speaker 1: maybe we've regressed, because people back then look a lot cooler.
Speaker 2: Apparently the show is set roughly in nineteen thirty three
Speaker 2: as well, so it's the Great Depression. People are drinking
Speaker 2: and smoking away their sorrows, and I think that's very fritt.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the main argument that I think people
Speaker 1: have had when discussing this show and how to watch,
Speaker 1: and that is you have two options.
Speaker 2: And when you click on the show before the show starts,
Speaker 2: it gives you the two options that you could select,
Speaker 2: and it gives you ten seconds.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get into that second. I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: into that in one second as well. So black and white,
Speaker 1: and then it's true hue color correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, true hue color or black and white.
Speaker 1: Okay. So first off, on my old ass TV in
Speaker 1: my bedroom, the app for this did not even give
Speaker 1: me the option, and it just started playing it in color. Okay,
Speaker 1: And for the first three episodes, I spent most of
Speaker 1: the time on my phone trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to put it in black and white?
Speaker 2: Was your TV not good enough for it?
Speaker 1: It's not good enough? And then pretty much an it's
Speaker 1: like every five to ten minutes, i'd pause it and
Speaker 1: go back and like, I must be doing something wrong here.
Speaker 1: I got to put this in black and white. And
Speaker 1: my wife's like, I don't want to watch it in
Speaker 1: black and white, and I'm like, you don't understand. This
Speaker 1: is shot to be seen in black and white. She's like,
Speaker 1: you don't know that, and I'm like, I this is
Speaker 1: what I fucking do. I read stupid shit about stupid shows.
Speaker 1: You can also tell by the lighting on the show
Speaker 1: by the makeup. The makeup is caked on to glisten
Speaker 1: in that black and white camera and seeing Nicholas Cage's
Speaker 1: glistening face and color, I couldn't do it anymore. I
Speaker 1: needed it in black and white, and by episode four
Speaker 1: I realized that if I went and got an old
Speaker 1: Roku stick and I plug that in, that would work.
Speaker 1: Once that starts working, my wife's like, I think we
Speaker 1: should just watch it in color, and because I was
Speaker 1: so passionate about it, she stopped caring, so he watched
Speaker 1: it in black and white.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen.
Speaker 1: It was my review of the show.
Speaker 2: It was created this the whole noir thing, the whole
Speaker 2: theme of the character is based around this black and
Speaker 2: white theme. And it looks good in black and white,
Speaker 2: like it certainly does. I was astonished by how much
Speaker 2: better it looked at it does. Expecting it to look
Speaker 2: awkward and weird, it looks great.
Speaker 1: So I will look credit for in color. It looks
Speaker 1: like when you take an old episode of I Love
Speaker 1: Lucy and you're like, hey, the chocolate factory thing that's
Speaker 1: in color, Now go and check that out. It looks
Speaker 1: like when you add the color after So it did
Speaker 1: have that cool look to it, but having watched both
Speaker 1: black and white, I think stood out way more as better.
Speaker 2: Oh, I I'm the opposite. Having watched both, I think
Speaker 2: that this show shines more and it's superhero moments, the
Speaker 2: Powers moments with the color. Because your three bags here, Goo,
Speaker 2: you have Megawatt, Tombstone, and Sandman. It was really hard
Speaker 2: to like see their abilities and watch them do stuff
Speaker 2: in the black.
Speaker 1: But I think that adds to the appeal of it,
Speaker 1: and it adds to the kish of it, and it
Speaker 1: adds to it's supposed to look kind of awkward and
Speaker 1: bad like it would have been shot in the nineteen thirties.
Speaker 1: I totally agree. That's what I liked about is that
Speaker 1: it kind of looked a little wonky, and I thought
Speaker 1: that was a part of the appeal.
Speaker 2: I just think it looks a lot better in color,
Speaker 2: not that it looks bad in black and white. It
Speaker 2: looks good. I think it just looks a lot better
Speaker 2: in color.
Speaker 1: I would say, just check out Lamour and Morris's first
Speaker 1: scene just to know what his suit looks like.
Speaker 2: But they like they the colors look great. Kuo. That's
Speaker 2: I didn't think I'd ever come away with this takeaway
Speaker 2: from the show, but that's we're both most passionate about
Speaker 2: this over anything else in the show.
Speaker 1: Lamour and Morris skinned the snick couch and made a
Speaker 1: suit out of it. Get that in, Take that in,
Speaker 1: but then swap it over to black and white, and
Speaker 1: we're all said, I think there.
Speaker 2: Was only like three or four shots in the whole
Speaker 2: season that really really stood out in black and white.
Speaker 2: The other ninety percent of the show looked much better
Speaker 2: in color. This show clearly designed to be like a
Speaker 2: crime detective investigation mystery, wasn't that because the audience knows everything.
Speaker 2: The audience knows more than the main characters, and that's
Speaker 2: obviously a choice. I think it's bad writing, though in
Speaker 2: this instance, I think it's bad writing. I think if
Speaker 2: we had been surprised a couple of times, that would
Speaker 2: have been pretty great. There's really there's a couple of
Speaker 2: small reveals in this show that really just round out
Speaker 2: a couple of characters. But there's no like Aha, which
Speaker 2: I think in a noir, a crime, a drama, you
Speaker 2: need something like that, and it's missing that.
Speaker 1: I think my biggest issue with the show that might
Speaker 1: take some dogs away is and I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: you fix this, because you would need a time machine
Speaker 1: because I want Nicholas Cage in this character. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just wish he was ten to fifteen years younger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nicholas Cage is sixty two years old old. Goo uh.
Speaker 2: First of all, this is the first episodic TV series
Speaker 2: for Nick Cage. He discussed how Breaking Battings inspired him
Speaker 2: at sixty two years old. He looks fifty five, sixty
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: He looks old.
Speaker 2: He needed to look about forty for a character that's
Speaker 2: probably about thirty five. So it's a little miscast in
Speaker 2: that and that in that sense, the.
Speaker 1: One thing that you can say is that people back
Speaker 1: then looked like trash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe sure.
Speaker 1: You can push that. He's smoking out on a lot
Speaker 1: of cigarettes. They drink a lot too, drink a lot
Speaker 1: of brown liquor.
Speaker 2: He looks a lot older than his supposed contemporaries, the
Speaker 2: other people that get powers and all be one.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying We're not trying to pile on
Speaker 1: the man. But so even if you just went back,
Speaker 1: was it five years four years to the Unbearable Weight?
Speaker 1: Where if you just had him five years ago, because
Speaker 1: he's starting to have Remember in The Irishman, one of
Speaker 1: our issues was when they deaged Robert de Niro, but
Speaker 1: he still has the old man slump on his back.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say it as I'm trying to say
Speaker 1: as politely as possible, but like you are certain to
Speaker 1: have the old man hump, where even if it was
Speaker 1: just five years ago, I feel like his posture was
Speaker 1: a little bit better.
Speaker 2: And in that respect too, choosing Nicholas Cage, who's a
Speaker 2: pretty tall fella. Whoever wore the Spider no War costume
Speaker 2: not tall, So there was a little bit of like
Speaker 2: a weird thing where Nicholas Cage tall, Spider Noir not tall.
Speaker 1: It's because the outfit, the costume it was. It was tight,
Speaker 1: super tight. He was wearing a corset. Yeah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: what else do I have here? Oh? So, what I
Speaker 1: like about it as well is that it's a pretty
Speaker 1: straightforward nineteen thirties detective crime noir and then out of
Speaker 1: nowhere randomly, maybe once or twice per episode, especially once
Speaker 1: we get like three episodes in. Nicholas Cage does like
Speaker 1: little Nicholas Cage things, and I'm questioning, I'm curious if
Speaker 1: they make it a little bit weirder, if they let
Speaker 1: Cage Cage out more, would that have been better or
Speaker 1: do we think it would have taken away from the
Speaker 1: show Slash, It wouldn't have made those cageisms as special
Speaker 1: as when he just becomes a spider.
Speaker 2: To your point, I think this show gets bogged down
Speaker 2: a little bit with trying to explain how it's a
Speaker 2: spider Man's show, and in the way of that is
Speaker 2: not allowing Nick Cage to do Nick Cage stuff until
Speaker 2: episode three or four. So it is at its best
Speaker 2: when he's going full cage. You want him doing it more,
Speaker 2: though I don't know, because I wanted better writing. I
Speaker 2: wanted a little bit better of a story here, which
Speaker 2: also maybe would have prevented the zaniness of Cage. But
Speaker 2: in the few moments that it comes out, it is great.
Speaker 2: And like the scene where he's like drunk and fighting
Speaker 2: is the best scene in.
Speaker 1: This Every once in a while he does this thing,
Speaker 1: either physically or the way that he delivers a line,
Speaker 1: or like this like nonchalant cage way about him, and it's,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's few and far between, but it's
Speaker 1: every time he does it, it's almost laugh out loud.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if they did it more, would it take away
Speaker 1: from the couple of times that he did it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the other thing here too, And I get
Speaker 2: it sort of works in that it's like a nineteen
Speaker 2: thirties sort of thing, but there's only two characters acting
Speaker 2: that way, Mega Watt and Cage. Those are the only
Speaker 2: two guys that are like on that same waveleg. Everyone
Speaker 2: else is not really doing No.
Speaker 1: They are in the fact that they are.
Speaker 2: Everyone else is playing it pretty strict.
Speaker 1: No, they're talking at a certain speed that you would
Speaker 1: see in movies from that time. So Lamar and Morris
Speaker 1: isn't exactly doing that man man, but he's talking a
Speaker 1: lot faster.
Speaker 2: Okay, But what I'm saying is everyone else is playing
Speaker 2: it straightforward. In Cage and what's his face, Andrew Lewis
Speaker 2: Caldwell are playing They're they're operating on a different plane,
Speaker 2: which kind of works because it's the bigger bad and
Speaker 2: the big good, but it's it's a little jarring at times.
Speaker 1: I also think that Kat was speaking slower and breathier
Speaker 1: because that is what Hollywood actress at the time would present.
Speaker 1: Fully agree, But so when you presenting.
Speaker 2: When you have Cage caging it and you have Megawatt
Speaker 2: going more folk cagean Cage You're like, all right, something's
Speaker 2: gonna get it.
Speaker 1: And then at one point Lamor is actually doing Cage. Also,
Speaker 1: I do want to say that I had to watch
Speaker 1: the show with subtitles.
Speaker 2: I did not need that because there.
Speaker 1: Was at some points where and it was Cage's dialogue
Speaker 1: was kind of mumbling through into other stuff.
Speaker 2: No, I think at this point these days, I just
Speaker 2: try to use context clues. I can't do the sub
Speaker 2: the subtitles.
Speaker 1: I don't even watch the show. I just put my
Speaker 1: binoculars on and watch the words. What else do we
Speaker 1: have here? Was that it? For my notes?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: One more time, I want to say, cigarettes are cool?
Speaker 2: Cigarettes are cool?
Speaker 1: Do we have to put some depression war one Hooverville's.
Speaker 2: Oh I liked go especially you get to see this
Speaker 2: in color, the webs that Ben Riley shoots a certain
Speaker 2: character to them that you lose in the black and well,
Speaker 2: get this that you get in the color.
Speaker 1: Hear me out. So the webs are black, right.
Speaker 2: No, they're like a dirty gray.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dirty gray. You can see that in black and white.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have the same texture as you're doing.
Speaker 1: Pretty similar, but that registers in black and white.
Speaker 2: No, I know, But you don't you miss the texture
Speaker 2: that you get in the true hue. And it's also
Speaker 2: a n nice little thing because it fits with the
Speaker 2: character as opposed to like the bright way it looks
Speaker 2: filthy with regularly it does looks gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Max, so we gets two our nonagone.
Speaker 1: Sure sure, sure fun factor. I had a good amount
Speaker 1: of fun watching this style of television. Uh. They really
Speaker 1: went all out with the look, and I loved the
Speaker 1: little pieces of Nick cage that we got along the way.
Speaker 1: And he's having a blast.
Speaker 2: I'll say this. Coming into the show, I expected certain
Speaker 2: things and it mostly hit those marks, but it didn't
Speaker 2: really exceed them. It didn't go above and beyond like
Speaker 2: I was hoping it to be the most fun and
Speaker 2: it was just decently.
Speaker 1: Fun because I was also expecting almost nothing out of
Speaker 1: the action in this show, and I thought it was okay.
Speaker 2: There was two or three very good fight scenes.
Speaker 1: Yes, satisfactor. Like you said, the solving of crimes wasn't
Speaker 1: really there. But I do like where we ended at
Speaker 1: the end of the year, end of the episodes.
Speaker 2: I agree. There's there's also a weird parallel to draw
Speaker 2: here between what we've seen from the Daredevil series. It's
Speaker 2: a lot of similar thematics in what Ben Riley and
Speaker 2: Matt Murdock have had to sort of get to. This
Speaker 2: wasn't that satisfying, But I'm also not annoyed or upset
Speaker 2: by anything, if that makes sense. Like I didn't have
Speaker 2: the highest of expectations, but I was hoping that maybe
Speaker 2: it would blow my expectations out of the water.
Speaker 1: I also love that the characters still had this like
Speaker 1: naivete about Ben Riley being friends with the Spider the
Speaker 1: entire time. Hey tell him, Miss tell him this borometer.
Speaker 1: I wasn't bored at all.
Speaker 2: A little bit those first those first two or three episodes.
Speaker 1: It's a little boring. It's a little boring Halloween. Will
Speaker 1: this show wayne over time? I'm curious. Are they going
Speaker 1: to do a season two?
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question. To that point,
Speaker 2: I think I like this show more than I did
Speaker 2: two days ago. The more I'm thinking about it, the
Speaker 2: more I'm seeing other people talk about it, I think
Speaker 2: I like it a little bit more than I did
Speaker 2: what I binged it, which is why I love binging,
Speaker 2: because you have it it's like a movie. You get
Speaker 2: to sit with it. You get to think about it
Speaker 2: instead of having to wait two and a half months
Speaker 2: to maybe be disappointed.
Speaker 1: Ah, Quater World. Is this better or worse than the
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five classic water World? I think it is.
Speaker 2: It is better.
Speaker 1: When life gives you Plemings. You take Jesse and you
Speaker 1: squeeze him real fucking tight and you get all those
Speaker 1: juices out of him. Who do you believe gave a
Speaker 1: Plemmens like performance and not a lot of time on screen.
Speaker 2: Mac So that's an interesting one because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of meaningful characters in this show, but none of them
Speaker 2: particularly dominate the show other than Nick Cage and Legion,
Speaker 2: Lee and I Guess a little more and Morris. That's
Speaker 2: the three. Cara Rodriguez Janet Room was really good, but
Speaker 2: it's hard to not come away loving Andrew Lewis Caldwell
Speaker 2: as Megawatt. He's just preposterous every time.
Speaker 1: I can see either loving or hating him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, having an opinion either way, because he's doing what
Speaker 2: you thought a lot of the characters would be doing,
Speaker 2: but it's just him in Nick Cage's doing.
Speaker 1: It, Max credit Union, who are you giving credit too?
Speaker 2: I got to give credit to Brendan Gleeson a Silver Maine.
Speaker 2: I made this work and I thought he was gonna
Speaker 2: be as zany as you know Megawatt, But he has
Speaker 2: this cool, calm, old school gangster thing that you beat,
Speaker 2: you buy into, you believe, and he's honestly as much
Speaker 2: as we love Cage doing Cage stuff, Mega Wat's being crazy,
Speaker 2: Brendan Gleeson is what makes the show go.
Speaker 1: I also want to give the character credit. He has
Speaker 1: a cane and doesn't necessarily need it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weapon.
Speaker 1: Pantstown City Excite bike Mania. What got you going from
Speaker 1: this show?
Speaker 2: First of all, the opening shot of the web slinging
Speaker 2: in New York City was great. There's a couple of
Speaker 2: great fight scenes in this series. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it ever went full pants tent, but it tried. It
Speaker 2: tried a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I would say the bar fight and then there's a.
Speaker 2: Bar fight's my favorite scene from Well.
Speaker 1: There's one piece of action from the final episode that
Speaker 1: and once again, the action in general, I was not
Speaker 1: expecting anything from so I think just my low expectations
Speaker 1: going into it made me appreciate it more.
Speaker 2: Sure, I understand that hot.
Speaker 1: Dog Man, hot Dog man hot dog can Nicholas Kate
Speaker 1: loves do dogs on this show. He loves hot dogs.
Speaker 2: Better than a what does he say than a hot
Speaker 2: dog at the ballpark?
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a hot dog at the ballpark
Speaker 1: or a roast beef at a thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? There you go.
Speaker 1: Well what that means is sometimes the simpler things in
Speaker 1: life are better than getting albougie.
Speaker 2: Yeah there you go.
Speaker 1: So Mac, I really enjoyed this show. I love the
Speaker 1: black and white look of it. I didn't mind h No,
Speaker 1: I didn't really care for when I did watch in
Speaker 1: the true hue, I did it. I appreciate them going
Speaker 1: for it though. I appreciate them giving me both options,
Speaker 1: and with the color option, not just giving us like
Speaker 1: normal looking. They really made it pop. I really liked
Speaker 1: the cast. I liked how everyone played their characters. I
Speaker 1: thought that the episode lengths were great. I thought the
Speaker 1: pacing was great. I really appreciate everyone here diving full
Speaker 1: out into what the aesthetic of this show is, eating
Speaker 1: ketchup sandwiches, orange suits, the daily bugle stuff I thought
Speaker 1: was really really fun. But more than anything is I
Speaker 1: thought Nicholas Cage, while I would have liked him five
Speaker 1: to ten to fifteen years younger. Once again, he carries
Speaker 1: this show and he's having a good time. I'm having
Speaker 1: a good time. Thirty five hot dogs. I don't think
Speaker 1: this is quite a nine out of ten. It's a
Speaker 1: tick below. But I thought what they gave us. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if I necessarily need a season two. I
Speaker 1: would absolutely watch a season two. But I had a
Speaker 1: really fun time with this.
Speaker 2: I knew you would. I figured you would. I was
Speaker 2: hoping I was gonna have a good time as you did.
Speaker 2: I had a solid time like it. It does a
Speaker 2: lot of things well. It does most things well. The characters,
Speaker 2: the casting was great, The acting is great. However, I
Speaker 2: like the story sucks. I like the stories. It's not
Speaker 2: very good.
Speaker 1: It's simple, I want to hear me again. Simple.
Speaker 2: I almost needed more of the World War One stuff
Speaker 2: and less of the current time stuff.
Speaker 1: Now, oh, I all spoilers. Put that in spoilers.
Speaker 2: I also needed just a little more punch as to
Speaker 2: the villain, because you're almost you're almost rooting for Gleason.
Speaker 2: He's so good a silver man. You're like, you know,
Speaker 2: you're not really like, uh, what's your name? Kat? Hardy
Speaker 2: is almost it's more of a villain than anyone else,
Speaker 2: is she? I don't know. It's a good question.
Speaker 1: I think forty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd guess forty ish. I had fun with the characters.
Speaker 2: I had a decent amount of fun with the season.
Speaker 2: I wish the story was a lot better. So you
Speaker 2: you were like smacked out between forty plus B plus
Speaker 2: A minus. I was thinking C plus B minus, So
Speaker 2: I'll give it thirty one hot dogs, which when I
Speaker 2: finished this season, like three or four days ago, I
Speaker 2: was thinking like twenty nine to thirty. So I've come
Speaker 2: up a little bit. I could see myself getting to
Speaker 2: thirty two like baseline good. I just wish I expected
Speaker 2: about what we got, but I was hoping for more,
Speaker 2: and I'm okay, I'd be happy if they made a
Speaker 2: season two. They did lay the groundwork for some pretty
Speaker 2: compelling characters. I just wanted a little bit more out
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine being her and he's just sitting there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have this one cop and then another cop is dirty.
Speaker 1: I can think and make you a drink, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it, And she just says to herself, I want
Speaker 1: to kiss this man.
Speaker 2: Spilers, spoilers, spilers, spoilers so good. Yes, My favorite scene
Speaker 2: in the whole series, the whole season, outside of the
Speaker 2: drunk bar fight, is when he finally reveals to Uh
Speaker 2: it's a Janet, that he's the Spider and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, I know you montage like the thirteen times
Speaker 2: that he's told her when he was hammered that that
Speaker 2: was the more stuff that they do do more in
Speaker 2: the second half of the season. I wanted more of
Speaker 2: that fun playing around in that arena than what we
Speaker 2: got because when we were harping on the Cat and
Speaker 2: Flint stuff, it was just like, all right, yeah, I
Speaker 2: get here for this.
Speaker 1: The issue with Cat she is a rat and pretty
Speaker 1: much everything that she does on this show is so telegraphed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run away with you. We know you're not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when she's sitting in the window, You're like, I bet
Speaker 1: she's gonna jump out of the window.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When Oh, by the way, I did like the Nicholas
Speaker 1: Cage scheme. Nicholas Cage wrote this, I'm assuming the scheme
Speaker 1: of putting the red dots on the money. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he got the uh he got the right hand man killed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was when I was like, fuck, I like that.
Speaker 2: That was good.
Speaker 1: I like that a lot.
Speaker 2: So the two biggest reveals we get in this series
Speaker 2: is that Ben's fiance Ruby was murdered by her ex husband,
Speaker 2: who Ben basically put in jail put away, and he
Speaker 2: missed saving her because he's a drug astle. Uh So
Speaker 2: he lives with this guilt. He gave up this spider
Speaker 2: mantle because he was living with all this guilt and
Speaker 2: the loss of Ruby. And I felt like, personally, none
Speaker 2: of that hit. It was just like, because.
Speaker 1: You are a responsible person who never lets anyone die.
Speaker 2: No, it just it's just I wish maybe if they
Speaker 2: had established Ruby a little bit or we had like
Speaker 2: she was just like.
Speaker 1: Well to it. And then she she calls him a
Speaker 1: funny word in his mind? What did she call him? Like, Oh,
Speaker 1: what do you do in your big wil It was
Speaker 1: a nineteen thirty slang word. Oh you know what I
Speaker 1: did like is when he got the suit back.
Speaker 2: Yep, that was good. When he pretends to be the janitor,
Speaker 2: Oh my.
Speaker 1: God, I wish. I wish they showed some kind of
Speaker 1: a sexual scene between that wife and husband.
Speaker 2: I thought that was Aya Cash. By the way, right away,
Speaker 2: she has an.
Speaker 1: Aya cash feel, but she's really annoyed by the husband,
Speaker 1: So like, that's why I would have I would have
Speaker 1: loved to have seen something of like he's a bit
Speaker 1: like make love.
Speaker 2: When they cut back to that couple outside watching the fight,
Speaker 2: that was a good scene.
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking he's one of those guys who was
Speaker 1: like it's in.
Speaker 2: Good We get to reveal that are four or five
Speaker 2: six powered people that we're dealing with in this season
Speaker 2: all got their powers from the same POW camp in
Speaker 2: France where the Germans were test running experiments on POW's
Speaker 2: with animals in sex.
Speaker 1: So now I'm picturing that fella going up to Spider
Speaker 1: new Arm, like, Spider, do you think you can have
Speaker 1: sex with my wife? You want me to anger? Why
Speaker 1: if while you watch me man spider cuck situation, the
Speaker 1: Spider cuck situation. She's definitely into him though, Oh for sure,
Speaker 1: that's why they should have had a cuck scene in this.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The biggest reveal take away a hot dog.
Speaker 2: In this season comes in what episode six where you
Speaker 2: get the reveal that they were all in that all
Speaker 2: POW's that five?
Speaker 1: I think five because then six was the operation scene, right.
Speaker 2: And so I I really liked operating in that realm.
Speaker 2: That was I think when the when the season was
Speaker 2: at its best, and then by the finale, to your point,
Speaker 2: everything's very telegraphed, you know exactly how it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: A wonderful jump scare, a wonderful little surprise when he
Speaker 1: pulls the blanket up and you think like, oh, this
Speaker 1: guy is just he's sitting in a bed, he's diseased,
Speaker 1: and it's pretty much this mutant spider with a half
Speaker 1: man face. Yeah, that's like in Breaking Bad when you
Speaker 1: think that he's fine and he turns and he's missing
Speaker 1: half his face. They showed the rest of the face
Speaker 1: and the body and I jumped them like, oh that's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Holy lord.
Speaker 2: I you know, it's a small it's a good little
Speaker 2: tie in, you know, but that was like the big
Speaker 2: mystery and investigation of the season. And it's over halfway
Speaker 2: through the season, and so from there we're just really
Speaker 2: dealing with Kat trying to save Flint, and it just
Speaker 2: lost steam from me like it had picked up. We
Speaker 2: were riding the high, and the last couple of episodes
Speaker 2: just really not crumble. It's just a lot less enjoyable
Speaker 2: than the middle of the season. So that's that's, honestly
Speaker 2: my biggest gripe, the story not being great because of that.
Speaker 1: Let's get into mac sack and mack Sack could be anything.
Speaker 1: It could be a boat. Jeffrey, I've noticed recently that eleven,
Speaker 1: the number eleven is all it's all over the place. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew this, but uh, Jalen Brunson,
Speaker 1: New York Knicks, NBA Finals, he weres number eleven. I
Speaker 1: googled this earlier and soccer eleven players on the field,
Speaker 1: that REIFA is coming to Boston football eleven. I said
Speaker 1: to myself, eleven, you're just tossing more numbers at me
Speaker 1: right now. I said to myself, what better time than
Speaker 1: right now not to do a top ten, a blind
Speaker 1: top ten ranking, because that's old. That's shit. Let's crank
Speaker 1: this to eleven. I'm gonna throw eleven number eleven's at you,
Speaker 1: eleven and then you blind rank them. Oh shit, all right,
Speaker 1: are you ready for this?
Speaker 2: Eleven is a good sports number? Goo, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna start you off with number one. Jalen Brunson,
Speaker 1: where do you rank them?
Speaker 2: Eight?
Speaker 1: Three eleven the band, the band, three eleven eleven Edgar
Speaker 1: Martinez better than Brunt and six seven eleven, seven elevens
Speaker 1: three Apollo eleven.
Speaker 2: Was that the one that they landed?
Speaker 1: That's the moon landing in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 2: I don't think it actually happened, though, So let's let's
Speaker 2: keep it out of the Rushmore. Let's go five for
Speaker 2: Appollo eleven. This amp goes to pretty good. Four Dante
Speaker 2: Culpepper loved Dante Culpepper. I got seven open. Let's go seven.
Speaker 1: Eleven eleven make a wish nine. Back in the year
Speaker 1: twenty oh four, wide receivers were allowed to start wearing
Speaker 1: number eleven. Players like Larry Fitzgerald, Roy Williams and Reggie
Speaker 1: Williams followed that up. So wide receivers wearing number eleven.
Speaker 2: I have two. I have three numbers left right, one,
Speaker 2: two and ten. Yes, okay, wide receivers being able to
Speaker 2: wear eleven. I'm gonna put that at two, four one, one.
Speaker 2: Oh great information line. Well we'll put that at ten and.
Speaker 1: Then finally your number one for best elevens nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: All right, read the route Mount Rushmore. It's a very
Speaker 2: fitting Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: You're a mount Rushmore of best elevens. This amp goes
Speaker 1: to Yeah, seven eleven wide receivers wearing number eleven in
Speaker 1: the NFL and at number one, your top eleven, nine
Speaker 1: to eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you could write it any better
Speaker 2: than that, better script than Spider War.
Speaker 1: I am curious if did you just did you forget
Speaker 1: about it?
Speaker 2: Nine to eleven?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I knew you had a banger coming up. I just
Speaker 2: didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm gonna hold for number one right here,
Speaker 1: But that's Mac's favorite eleven.
Speaker 2: I always put seven eleven at number one, which still
Speaker 2: would have put nine to eleven at three. But what
Speaker 2: are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: All right? So comment down below? Mac. Where can the
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Speaker 1: of the week, maybe we'll do some low budget horror
Speaker 1: oo spooky spooky?
Speaker 2: Have you seen Obsession yet?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see it in the next couple of days.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping to see it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I would like to do that. And I think I'm
Speaker 1: going to see back rooms too.
Speaker 2: Okay, I also have It's a big week for me, goo.
Speaker 2: I have a dentist appointment in my yearly physical this week,
Speaker 2: So big week for me.
Speaker 1: Do you think you make it out alive?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. We'll see after the dentist appointment. Who
Speaker 2: you never know? You never know?
Speaker 1: In there comment down a lot. How many cavities does
Speaker 1: mac have? How did you have right now? How many feelings?
Speaker 2: I don't at least three. I haven't had one in forever.
Speaker 2: I remember getting three or four as a kid.
Speaker 1: I feel like I have three and then one of
Speaker 1: them they legit cut one of the like the tooth
Speaker 1: off and then they put a cap over it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah you got you got a crown and post
Speaker 2: following a roote. Yeah. I have one of those as
Speaker 2: well up here. So if that counts as one, I
Speaker 2: guess right? Or is that beyond?
Speaker 1: You know what? You should ask the dentist about what's that?
Speaker 1: Gold teeth?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: All gold teeth? No, not one all gold No, can't
Speaker 1: afford it. As the dentist about wooden teeth.
Speaker 2: You know what we're like, we came up five years
Speaker 2: too area because the fillings these days are just tooth colored.
Speaker 2: When we were real young, it was still metal. And
Speaker 2: then you remember if you were to chew a gum wrapper,
Speaker 2: a metal gum wrapper rapper, you would it would like hurt.
Speaker 2: What is that pain?
Speaker 1: If you were chewing a paper clip, it would hurt?
Speaker 2: Well, which I need to know the science behind that.
Speaker 2: I never understood it.
Speaker 1: Well, do our research and we'll come back on Thursday.
Speaker 2: All right, all right? I actually we had someone chime
Speaker 2: in about the THHC and the cold brew, which thank
Speaker 2: you for that information. Someone chime in about the metal
Speaker 2: on metal in the mouth.
Speaker 1: There Tuesdays are goosdays. I abus kangaroos a Tam Burton.
Speaker 2: Bye.
Speaker 1: Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue
Speaker 1: the adventure. Now it's time for girls jumping on worms.