1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose with you until ten o'clock. Thank you for 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: tuning in. Good to have you along with us on 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: a Thursday Coast to Coast AM with George Norri at 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: ten o'clock. We'll get a preview a little bit later 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: on tonight. All right, So it's true the cell phone 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: is probably hurting your brain, research says. 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: The Department of Health and Human Services is launching a 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: study on whether radiation from cell phones could harm Americans' health. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: So could is the like in order to launch an 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 2: investigation from an agency, there has to be like some 12 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: pretty significant data. Let me explain to how this works 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: in the real world in Washington, d C. From somebody 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: who spent fifteen years as deputy chief of staff of 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: three members of Congress. Like in court, you have to 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: have standing, Like before you can go to court, you've 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: got to go to a judge and present like decent 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: evidence that you even have a case, not to waste 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: the judge's time. So you have to have standing. There's 20 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: got to be like all right, or else the judges like, 21 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: now I'm not listening to this ridiculous case. You're an idiot, 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: like this is ridiculous. That's in the court system when 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: it comes to agency stuff, and somebody says, hey, we 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: want the agency that oversees this industry to open up 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: an investigation on whether the cell phone is destroying your brain. 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: You better believe a teen T, Verizon, de Mobile, Apple, Samsung, 27 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: they're all there too, and they're saying Congressman, you don't 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: need to do this, or in this case, Secretary Secretary 29 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: of Health the Human Services Madam MSIs Secretary, you don't 30 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: need to do this, like we have plenty of data. 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: You're wasting government resources. That's the taxpayer's harder money, right. 32 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: There's obviously the industry is going to push back because 33 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: they don't want to be limited. So that it got 34 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: this far means there was significant standing, if you will, 35 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: significant evidence that probably the cell phone is eating your brain. 36 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: The Department of Health and Human Services is launching a 37 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: study on whether radiation from cell phones could harm Americans' health, 38 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: and HHS spokesman telling Fox it would look at electrial 39 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: magnetic radiation exposure on cell phones Wi Fi routers. 40 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like the sound of that. That was 41 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: a there's a lot of. 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: Adjectives there in HHS spokesman telling Fox it would look 43 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: at electrial magnetic radiation exposure on. 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: Electromagnetic radiation exposure. Foosh, that sounds bad, like that cannot 45 00:02:52,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: be good. That's global thermonuclear war, right, intercontinental ballistic mishistle? Uh? 46 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: What was that? 47 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: Radiocaratomy electroal magnetic radiation exposure on electro magnetic radiation exposure. 48 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: That sounds like the big one and it's right next 49 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: to your ear. 50 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: So to look at electrial magnetic radiation exposure on cell phones, 51 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: Wi Fi routers, cell towers and smartphone watches. 52 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: Oh boy, the cell phone towers too. You know, there 53 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: was a while when people were going nuts with the 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: smart meters on your electric meter or the gas meter. 55 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: I was working in I was working for a congressman 56 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: and this just started. I don't even remember what district 57 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: it was. I think I guess it would have been gas, 58 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: Like who comes to read that? I know the water 59 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: meter guy comes, but was it gas or electric? Where 60 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: the guy comes every once in a while and read 61 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: your meter. Uh, And that's labor intensive and intrusive, and 62 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: guys get bit by dogs and every once in a 63 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: while somebody spooks the homeowner and they could get shot. 64 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of reasons why we don't 65 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: want to send the gas man to go read your meter. 66 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: And with Bluetooth and technology and Wi Fi, it was idiotic. 67 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: You can just have this little device placed on the 68 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 2: side of your house and boom right, the gas company, 69 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 2: the electric company, probably even the water company now knows 70 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: where you are in between building cycles. And there was 71 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: a small but loud group of people that were convinced 72 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: that it was wrecking people's brains. Like the chip, the 73 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: smart meters were the worse than chemtrails. I mean, these 74 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: are the same people who think the government, the government's 75 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: poisoning poisoning us in the skies with chemicals, the chemtrails 76 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: and the same crowd, but they were they prioritized. The 77 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: smart meters were destroying their brains. And I remember we 78 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: had to deal with that. It was like a roll 79 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: of Prekin. Close. 80 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: You're on cell phones, Wi Fi routers, cell towers, and 81 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 3: smartphone watches. 82 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, now the WiFi router. Everybody has the Wi Fi 83 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: router in their house. See, this is what I mean. 84 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: We don't really know the results of what we're doing. 85 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: To ourselves until one generation goes through it, you know, 86 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: and and you have their life terminates with a body 87 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: of evidence of what having the router in your house did, 88 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: What having the iPhone next to your ear or your 89 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: life did, Like we have to wait until that happens 90 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: having the microwave oven standing in front of the microwave oven. 91 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: Like you have to kind of take a step back 92 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: and say, Okay, we're the first, well not me, but 93 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: my boys are the first generation of having a Wi 94 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: Fi in the house on all the time and talking 95 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: to all the TVs and all the phones and the 96 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: Xbox and whatever, like it talks to everything, and that 97 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: talks to light bulbs. Now, I can't buy a light 98 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: bulb that just turns on. Is it's literally impossible to 99 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: find a light bulb that I don't have to I 100 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: have to download that company's app, register, choose a password, 101 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: then it tells me the passwords too small, so I've 102 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: got to like and then I have to write the 103 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: password down if I ever want to turn off the 104 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: light bulb or change it. But you literally have to 105 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: program a stupid light bulb and choose the color and 106 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: then and then if it's like a three bulb fixed 107 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: your vanity in the bathroom. You got to make sure 108 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: that all three of the exact same hue and the 109 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: exact same brightness that it looks weird. It's a real pain, 110 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: but this is what you got to do now. So 111 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: this will be the first generation that's had all these 112 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: ways flying around in your house. 113 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 4: Now. 114 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: I don't think the router's gonna hurt. I don't know 115 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: about those cell phone towers. There was a time that 116 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 2: everybody was worried about the high tension wires causing cancer, 117 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: and then of course you got the cell. 118 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: Phones, cell towers, and smartphone watches. The FCC says at 119 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 3: its website that there's no scientific evidence establishing a definitive 120 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: link between wireless device use and cancer in other illnesses. 121 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: Right, but that's the FCC. Of course, the FCC is 122 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: going to say that, like why would they be advocating 123 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: to rip all of these things out? So it's challenging, right, 124 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: like self government is challenging. You got to keep an 125 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: eye on these guys because they're they're all advocating for 126 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: their own industry, which is okay, not saying that they're lying, 127 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 2: but you gotta you need everybody advocating very powerfully and 128 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: very passionately for their own concern and that's and that 129 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 2: pushes and pulls the argument to somewhere in the middle. 130 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: And then you have to have truly curious and dispassionate 131 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: lawmakers to say, uh, all right, based on all the evidence, 132 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: you should probably put that cell phone on speaker. 133 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: That there's no scientific evidence establishing a definitive link between 134 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: wireless device use and cancer in other illnesses. But the 135 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: agency suggests limiting time spent on devices and putting a 136 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: phone on speaker or using an earpiece to reduce head exposure. 137 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: See, that's that's where they lose me. Nothing to worry about, lou, 138 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: no evidence whatsoever that this is hurting your brain. However, 139 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: we're going to come out with a suggestion, and that 140 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: is don't put it next to your brain. That's classic government. 141 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: It's like, well, if it if there's no evidence at all, 142 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: then I could literally press it next to my head 143 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: right and like for a day, you know, twenty four 144 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: hours and nothing like, Why then is there a recommendation 145 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: to keep it away from my head if there's nothing wrong. 146 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 147 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: Talking about the FCC A made you change with respect 148 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: to what we do in broadcasting, not so much talk radio, 149 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 2: but what they do on television regard darding political candidates. 150 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 5: The FCC says late night and daytime talk shows will 151 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 5: no longer automatically qualify as bona fide news programs, which 152 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: are exempt from rules requiring rival candidates get equal airtime. 153 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so let me explain this to you. Under the rules, 154 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: if you have somebody that is up for office running 155 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: for office, and you give them airtime, you're obligated to 156 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: give their opponent airtime, and all the opponents, like not 157 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: just the ones that you hear about. Like you're not 158 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: gonna believe this, but when somebody is running for president, 159 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: there are thirty people running for president. Now you only 160 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: hear about the Republican and the Democrat, and every once 161 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 2: in a while you get a Ralph Nader in there 162 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: or something like that on a Green Party. But there's 163 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: other people and people that nobody want to hear from. 164 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: But if you start letting people on, then you owe 165 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: it to every time Dick and Harry that's got their 166 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: name on a ballot. And it's worse when you get 167 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: into state and local races because there are all kinds 168 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 2: of third parties and fourth parties and fifth parties, and 169 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: there's some dude, and you know, you really want to 170 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: have a conversation with the Democrat candidate and the Republican 171 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: candidate because one of those two were gonna win. Well 172 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: in California, really only the Democrat candidate's gonna win. But 173 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: you want to talk to the Republican candidate anyway, and 174 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: you gotta be careful. You got to, you gotta because 175 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: they have to have equal time. So that's how it 176 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: works in radio. Then you get into television, Well, what's 177 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: a news program and what's entertainment? Like a political candidate, 178 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: like let's say Arnold Schwarzenegger, he could go on Oprah. 179 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: Does Oprah then have to put the candidates for governor? Right? 180 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: She does a national show. Schwarzenegger is a national person. 181 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: The purpose of his appearance was about him, his life, 182 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: his wife, and also his decision to run for governor. 183 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: And he thinks he's giving back. Now that helps him 184 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: in the campaign because there are people in California watching Oprah. 185 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: But is she obligated? Is she a news program or 186 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: is she a variety program? Just is it entertainment or 187 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: is it news? And I think that might have been 188 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: the genesis of this change. I think it was because 189 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: he went on the Tonight Show with then Jay Leno 190 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: and announced his candidacy. And there's lots of thought about 191 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: this because I understand the whole equal time thing, but 192 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that appearing on the Tonight Show to 193 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: announce his candidacy. Yeah, it gave his candidacy national attention, 194 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter because he was running for governor 195 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: of California and Kama. I don't think it gave him 196 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: name recognition because he had name recognition. In other words, 197 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: you wouldn't be on the Tonight Show if nobody knew 198 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: who you were in the first place. You're on the 199 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: Tonight Show because everybody you're popular, and the Tonight Show 200 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: wants to ride that wave of popularity for their ratings. 201 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: So I would argue that it doesn't help his candidacy 202 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: and didn't earn him a vote that he otherwise wasn't 203 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: going to get. So I don't believe in this equal 204 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: time thing. It sounds fairer than it is. People have 205 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: to earn in politics. You got to get attention your 206 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: own way, and anybody that would tune in to listen 207 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: to a conversation with a Democrat candidate or a Republican 208 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: candidate was already going to vote Democrat or Republican because 209 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: most people don't like to even hear those conversations anyway. 210 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: The FCC says late night and daytime talk shows will 211 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 5: no longer automatically qualify as bonafide news programs, which are 212 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 5: exempt from rules requiring rival candidates get equal airtime. Talk 213 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: shows have long relied on a two thousand and six 214 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 5: ruling that will out a Tonight Show interview with then 215 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 5: California Governor Schwartzenegger to be exempt. 216 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: Ah See, I was right. Everyone was concerned about that. 217 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: What happened? How come he gets to go on there? 218 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: I thought, don't worry about it, Like this is just 219 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: a little hit on the Tonight Show. This is not 220 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: bringing in campaign donations, it's not causing people to not 221 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: vote for you. Don't base your entire candidate, Like if 222 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: you're Schwarzenegger's opponent, don't base your campaign strategy on the 223 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: fact that he shouldn't beyond. 224 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 5: The California governor Swartzenegger to be exempt. The FCC now 225 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 5: says that ruling does not set a blanket precedent for 226 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 5: all talk shows, including The View Jimmy Kimmel Alive and 227 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 5: The Late Show, and is urging broadcasters to file the 228 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 5: proper equal opportunity paperwork to comply with the law. 229 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: So does anybody think that anybody that goes on Jimmy 230 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: Kimmel isn't going to be already connected with the audience, 231 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: Like in other words, I don't see. I mean, I 232 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: can't see at this point, given what Kimmel is doing. 233 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: I don't see any cabinet secretaries or anybody running on 234 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: a Trump agenda going on Jimmy Kimmel, Like, why would you? 235 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: His audience and his viewership have all formed an opinion 236 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: for the most part. Now, I think that's foolish. Frankly, 237 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: in broadcasting, I've never been a fan of the philosophy 238 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: of Fox News and MSNBC. I thought that was a 239 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: huge mistake. I really do. I understand that they're in 240 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: the television news business, especially in television talk, there is 241 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: a philosophy of confirmation bias. The reason you watch Fox 242 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: News or the reason that you watch MSNBC now ms 243 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: Now and certainly NewsNation is because of confirmation bias. You 244 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: have your opinion, you want to turn on the television 245 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: and watch a journalist confirm your opinion. That's the way 246 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: that works. That's what they're doing. They're not looking to 247 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: find the center. They're not looking to find the truth. 248 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: I mean, they are trying to get the story right, 249 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: but they're presenting it in a way that confirms the 250 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: bias of the viewer. And that's not really journalism. That's 251 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: confirmation bias. Entertainment television using news as content for stories 252 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: as content, and like that's fine for crossfire type shows. 253 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: Remember Crossfire on CNN. You watch Crossfire because you agreed 254 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: with the one of those two guys right that we're 255 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: arguing the issue, and you're like, oh, I like this 256 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: guy and I like the way he said it. Boy, 257 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: he zinged him, he got him, he got his point right. 258 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: That's confirmation bias. You're rooting for one side, but that 259 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: guy articulates is better than you can. Or you listen 260 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: to him, and now you're all set to go when 261 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: you want to argue with your liberal cousin from Boston, Like, 262 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: I know what I'm gonna say next time I see 263 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: Aunt Carrol when she comes in for Boston for Thanksgiving. Boy, 264 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: because I was watching Crossfire. That's confirmation buys, it gives 265 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: you ammunition. I just think it's been a disaster for 266 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: American society because nobody knows where to go to anymore 267 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: to get what actually happened. Don't shape the story to 268 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: benefit one side. And uh and and now it's look 269 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: what's happened, right, we we you got you gotta you 270 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: gotta confirm everything that's on MS now for sure, and 271 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: you frankly have to confirm a lot of what's on 272 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: Fox Television, not necessarily the newsroom and Fox News is 273 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: different than Fox Television, but it's clear they're presenting it, 274 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: you know, in a pro gop way. And again it's 275 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: it's all fine, but it's predictable and it's challenging for 276 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: the viewer to try and get the actual story with 277 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: all the facts. And the same thing goes I think 278 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: for late night television, Uh, you're it's not really as 279 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: entertaining when you know you're shaping up the monologue to 280 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: zing all the time is that you got to go 281 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 2: to some other right entertainment at eleven thirty that doesn't 282 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: do that, And we're all just left searching unbelievable, but 283 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: it is. Now the FCC is saying that they have 284 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: to fill out forms and they have to have everybody up. 285 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 286 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: Good to have you along with us. We have been 287 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: talking about setting an age limit for members of Congress 288 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: and for the president forever. Everybody is you know, has 289 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: thoughts right, people are too old. They're too old. They're 290 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: too old. And we see people in Congress and in 291 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 2: the Senate who are clearly ill, like Mitch McConnell is 292 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: still in the Senate. He's having all kinds of episodes. 293 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: He's falling and he's just blanking out, but he's still 294 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: voting on legislation. In California, we had the late Senator 295 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: Dianne Feinstein. She was completely lost four months voting on 296 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: billions of dollars in appropriations and clearly not well. Maxine 297 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: Waters comes to mind, yeah, and even you know, Nancy Pelosi. 298 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: Just the very high profile people who were just clearly 299 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: not able to do the job. They just don't have 300 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: the faculties. And you know, a lot has been said 301 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: about the former president Joe Biden, but he did not 302 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: perform well. On that debate stage. He couldn't get his 303 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: thoughts together. There's no question about it. Now, that could 304 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: have been a bad night. He could have had of 305 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: a call, he could have a cold, or he could 306 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: be without faculties. And he's the president of the United States, 307 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: So it's a reasonable discussion to have. How do we 308 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: keep people who can't do the job from holding the 309 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: job well? And this comes interestingly enough from a Democrat, 310 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 2: Ram Emmanuel. He's the former mayor of Chicago, former Clinton 311 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: administration guy. And the Clinton administration had some good thinkers, 312 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: right when you think about the team around him, the 313 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: James Carvill and the Paul Mgala, just some real thinkers. 314 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 2: So the goal here is to start a conversation, but 315 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: as a Democrat, also try and bring the young Democrat 316 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 2: base back to the Democrat party. 317 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 6: The proposal would call for a mandatory retirement at seventy 318 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 6: five for presidents, lawmakers, and judges. 319 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: Mandatory retirement, not age limit to run, mandatory retirement, and 320 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: not just for members of the House of Representatives, the Senate, 321 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: and the president, also for judges. So that means means 322 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: Supreme Court judges, Federal court judges, federal courts of appeal 323 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: on your seventy fifth birthday, you get a party in 324 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: a watch, and then you're sent. 325 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 6: On a mandatory retirement at seventy five for presidents, lawmakers, 326 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 6: and judges. Speaking at a progressive think tank, Emmanuel, who 327 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 6: might run for president, said the rules should apply across 328 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 6: all branches of government, including the Supreme Court, and even 329 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 6: to himself. 330 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: Even to himself and he's running for He said that 331 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: he's thinking about a presidential run. Well, look, I mean, 332 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: we do set limits on your candidacy, right, you have 333 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: to be thirty five years old to become a candidate 334 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: for president of the United States, thirty four members of 335 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: the House of Representatives. So we do just arbitrarily pick numbers. 336 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 2: I mean we do it all the time. You have 337 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 2: to be eighteen to vote, you have to be twenty 338 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: one to drink, you have to be twenty five to 339 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 2: get rent a car. You know, Social Security is sixty 340 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: five or sixty five ish. Now they move in that 341 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: day round. So we do just take numbers out of 342 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: a hat. It is certainly arbitrary and capricious. At fifty five, 343 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: you can start drawing down in your retirement like this 344 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: is right there, these numbers at the government sets all 345 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: the time. Is seventy five the number? It's a fair question, 346 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 2: Mark Ronner. We've been talking about, you know, age limits 347 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: for people serving at the federal government for a long time. 348 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: This is now the first actual serious proposal from somebody 349 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: that can be taken seriously. And what do you think? 350 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: Seventy five? That's it? You get your done? No more, President, 351 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: you can't be a Supreme Court justice. Seventy five member 352 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: of Congress, but you gotta go. Sorry, I had some 353 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: other stuff going here. Does that apply to the current president? 354 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: Does that apply to everybody? No, it'd have to be 355 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: going forward. So once they do it, then everybody that 356 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: was elected before this went into place could finish out. 357 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: But I think there'd be a lot of pre pure 358 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: if we and I don't know how you do this 359 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: because it sounds unconstitutional to me, but but we could 360 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: certainly pass a constitutional amendment. I mean we you know, 361 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: we've amended the Constitution a number of times, and you 362 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: know we passed the Constitution Amendment having the right to vote, 363 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: so we could do it. But even hypothetically or academically, 364 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: if it went into place, should we say to someone 365 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 2: just based on seventy five years on Earth, you are 366 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: no longer eligible to serve in the federal government. With 367 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: the assumption that you're just too old and can't think straight. 368 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 7: Well, it's kind of a crapshoot, isn't it, Because everybody's different, 369 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 7: everybody ages differently. Some people are more prone to Alzheimer's 370 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 7: than others. How old is Chuck Grassley? He's in his 371 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 7: nineties now, and he's announced that he's running again, right, 372 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 7: And so it really kind of depends on the individual. 373 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 7: I you know, I'm not going to lay down any 374 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 7: political opinions on this and get out of my lane, 375 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 7: but I think that this is this transcends party. 376 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: It transcends party. But see, and I get what you're saying. 377 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: I mean, there are sharp as attack. I mean, I 378 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: know college professors in their late seventies that argue constitutional 379 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: law and are I mean amazing. I mean, their brains 380 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: are amazing. And I know professors in their fifties that 381 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: are adults and just can't former latest sentence and you think, 382 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: how did you get this job? So you're right, it depends. 383 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: But then again, there are probably thoughtful and people that 384 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: could do the job of being president of the United 385 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: States at age thirty four. The assumption is, at age 386 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: thirty five, you're finally mature enough to be a president, 387 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: and somehow that feels right, or at least we decided 388 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 2: it feels right for a long time. But you know, 389 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: thirty five is still kind of young, and so we 390 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: do just kind of make assumptions based on these numbers. 391 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: Seventy five, I would think, and this is always what's 392 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: amazing to me about the people that are running for 393 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: reelection in their eighties. I would think at that point 394 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 2: in your life, you will feel like you or you 395 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: often feel like you've given it. You know you've given 396 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: it a goodly amount of time. These are the best 397 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: days of your life. You want to go home and 398 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: rest on your laurels and talk about your successes and 399 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of your life in blissful retirement. 400 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 7: Well, you also have to get into the issue of 401 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 7: whether or not the founders intended people to be squatters 402 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 7: in office for more than just a few years as 403 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 7: opposed to decades. And so I could get behind giving 404 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 7: everybody in every office a cognitive test that is a 405 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 7: little bit more involved than identifying a giraffe or some 406 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 7: other zoo animal. But I think if we gave cognitive 407 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 7: or IQ tests, we'd cleared the whole place out. 408 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you have to wonder what's on that test, right, 409 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: because I just I saw a report in San Diego 410 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: about how literally nobody that is first year at SDSU 411 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: can do high school math. So I don't know, like, 412 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: what do we mean cognitive? Yeah, but sometimes the legislation 413 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: that they're voting on requires more than just basic cognitive understanding. 414 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 7: Well, and we hear all the time about studies that 415 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 7: show that the entire country averages at something like a 416 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 7: sixth grade reading level, And uh, exactly, And I doubt 417 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 7: that the people serving in Congress are significantly more intelligent 418 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 7: than your average citizens. 419 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: So what does that tell you? Yes, but I'll tell 420 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: you something that my former boss, who served in Congress 421 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: for fifteen years, said about that it's representative government, so 422 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: shouldn't I mean, you know, you don't want you do 423 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: want the best of the best, but if it's representing America, 424 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: then it truly should represent America. So you know, because 425 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: I remember him saying to me, you know, Congress is 426 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: he just got elected, and you know, after a couple 427 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: of weeks back there. It's interesting to hear what the 428 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: reaction is and you know what they find, you know, different, interesting, surprising. 429 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: And I remember him saying, Lou, it's it's incredible. It's 430 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 2: an incredible place. I have met some of the most 431 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: honest people I'll ever meet, and absolute liars. I've met 432 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: some of the hardest working people, and some absolutely lazy people, 433 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: and some you know, honest as a day is long, 434 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 2: and some bona fide crooks that are in this body, 435 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: in the House of Representatives. 436 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 8: Sure, and we're getting representative right at the end of 437 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 8: the day. Doesn't that represent America right exactly? And we're 438 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 8: getting represented good and hard in that way, And I 439 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 8: think that's kind of a cynical way of looking at it. 440 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 8: I would like people representing me who are smarter than me, 441 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 8: who know more about government, and who know the Constitution, 442 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 8: and who are statesmen. I don't want somebody who's average. 443 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that. But then Buckley said, I would 444 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: rather be represented in Congress by the first four hundred 445 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: and thirty five names in the phone book than the 446 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: staff at Harvard University. 447 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I think William F. Buckley was kind of 448 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 7: a swine. If you want to bring him into this. 449 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: I listen. I know, but it's an interesting thought, right. 450 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: I still I'd rather have be have regular Americans represent 451 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 2: me than the elites. I was his thought. 452 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 7: I think you have to take what Buckley says with 453 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 7: the grain of salt. I still watch old Firing Line 454 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 7: episodes on YouTube to this day, and if you pay 455 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 7: attention to the things William F. Buckley actually said, I 456 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 7: think he hid a pretty average intellect behind a huge vocabulary. 457 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 7: And if you're going to play the Buckley card, I'm 458 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 7: calling you on it. Okay, very good. 459 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: Look. I was just I was romanced by the accent. 460 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out what that accent is. 461 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 7: It was one of those strange mid Atlantic accents that 462 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 7: people of a certain socioeconomic status adopted at that time. 463 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 7: And they're kind of extinct, now, aren't they. 464 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, just they. No one else did it and no 465 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: one else does it. And I to this day I 466 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: have seen just you know, all the video on YouTube 467 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: of Buckley and I'm thinking, what where did he develop 468 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: that accident? Who talks like that? He was the only 469 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: one that did it. 470 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,719 Speaker 7: I think he kind of constructed that identity for himself. 471 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: But I wonder. 472 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 7: I do wonder sometimes watching those old firing line shows 473 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 7: what today's Republicans would make of Buckley. The party sure 474 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 7: has changed, no question about it. 475 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: I think of it that all the time. You know what, 476 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: you know, Michael Reagan, the son of Ronald Reagan, recently 477 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: passed away just a couple of days ago, and he 478 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: was a talk show host in San Diego, so he's 479 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: as well known in San Diego as he was anywhere else. 480 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 2: And yeah, so the discussion, of course is, you know, 481 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: how would Reagan fit in to the MAGA movement? And 482 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: I just can't imagine how he would handle it at 483 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: this day. So the party is changing, no question about it. 484 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: All right, when we come back, the shelves are gone, 485 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: Like there's no food anywhere in Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina. 486 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm watching video here. Everybody's taken all the food. They're 487 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: really really getting hysterical over this coming storm. So either 488 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: they're gonna get walloped or they're gonna have a lot 489 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: of food one way or another. 490 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 491 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: Following the news. At ten, it's Coast to Coast AM 492 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 2: with George Norri George, what's coming up? 493 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna talk about what it's like to live 494 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: in a digital world. It is an amazing story and 495 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: we'll have it. 496 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: A Coach to Coast AM tonight. 497 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: Coast to Coast Am with George Norri follows the news 498 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: at ten. Lou Penrose with you till then you better 499 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: believe it. Baby. 500 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 9: My brother who lives in Oklahoma said he put his 501 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 9: regular order in for groceries at Walmart and they were 502 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 9: unable to bring him bread because the store was all 503 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 9: sold out. They don't have snowplows and stuff like wheat 504 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 9: like other places do, and so the whole town shuts 505 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 9: down when it snows. 506 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: Your brother has a regular grocery order at Walmart, what's 507 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: in that order? Like, what would be a regular grocery order? 508 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, they're worried about that storm. 509 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 4: Gee, doesn't anybody have a standby generator? Come on, they're 510 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: not expensive and they just freaking work. 511 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: No, but people steal them and you need to have 512 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: gasoline in them, and that's dangerous. 513 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 3: If everyone treated stocks like Nancy Pelosi Man America, it 514 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: would be so rich, would be even funny. 515 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: She has done well. 516 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: After living in California for twenty nine years and recently 517 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: moving back to Nashville, Tennessee. My disaster of choice is 518 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 4: an earthquake. I would rather be waiting for the big 519 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 4: one to hit than this snow coming they've acted on 520 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: for a week. The people go to the grocery store 521 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: and they buy everything out. It's like locusts have swarmed 522 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: the grocery store. But I'm gonna be okay. 523 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I think you'll be fine. If you're yearning 524 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: for an earthquake, then fly back to California and get 525 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 2: a hotel hell in Indio because it's been NonStop earthquakes there. 526 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: But I agree with you when I look at the 527 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: tornado damage, when I see these hurricanes, I mean the 528 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: way that they are freaking out in Louisiana, I think, well, 529 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: you know what, California has been good to me, And 530 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: these are the days, these are the news stories. This 531 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 2: is the time for all of us that you know 532 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 2: reasonably get upset with way government is run here in California. 533 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: Certainly the taxes are too high. Certainly things can be 534 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: done better. Certainly we have elected leaders that have failed us. 535 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: And there are to be water in the fire. Hydrants 536 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: but having said that, the weather's pretty good. I mean, 537 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: they got it right when they figured out how we're 538 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: gonna have the weather here in California, because it is 539 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: pretty nice. What's fun is when we take photographs and 540 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: it's January and we posted them on Facebook or social media. 541 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: I just had my cousin's daughter. My cousins, all my 542 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: cousins actually all live in Switzerland because that's where my 543 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: dad and his brothers went after the war. After World 544 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: War Two, everything was broken in Italy and most of 545 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: it's still not fixed. But everybody got out of Italy 546 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: and they all went to Switzerland. Interestingly, Switzerland had a 547 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: lot of cash on hand after World War Two and 548 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: really wanted to spend it fast, so they did major infrastructure. 549 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: I mean they literally drill holes in the side of 550 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: the Alps to run trains through for no reason, just 551 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: to launder all that cash anyway, So they were paying 552 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: people to just come and drill holes through mountains. And 553 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: my dad got caught up in that. And the plan 554 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: was they were all going to come to America, but 555 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 2: only my dad came to America. And now my cousins 556 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: are in Switzerland and everybody's grown up and now his 557 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: daughter her just had her. She just graduated and they 558 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: do a gap year there in Switzerland and most of Europe, 559 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: everybody just gets to be off for a year before 560 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: they go to university. And she came to Southern California 561 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: because why wouldn't you. You have family there and spent 562 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: the holidays with us, which was great, and so you know, 563 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: taking all these pictures of her at the beach and everything, 564 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: and you posted on social media, and all your family 565 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: friends and family that live in Boston and New York 566 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh and Scranton and Bigham to New York, They're like, 567 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: I don't believe it. You're sitting there in shorts in January. 568 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 2: And we sometimes, I think we need people to yearn 569 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: to be out of the cold for us to remember 570 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: just how absolutely gorgeous it is here in southern California. 571 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: You big blue yep. 572 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 9: So when I was younger, I used to sing that 573 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 9: Van Halen song and I used to say, you got. 574 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 5: No love, no loving Korea. 575 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 2: What a dumb ass? I know, dumb ass no love 576 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: in Korea. That's pretty good. That isn't exactly the lyric, 577 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: but I can see how you got there. I no Love, 578 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: No Love, Callia. It does sound like Korea. What is 579 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: the word? 580 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: You know? 581 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: David the Roth is in town. I think he's performing 582 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: in Anaheim in a couple of days, so maybe we 583 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: could ask him, get him on the phone. No loose, 584 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: no love, Callia. Nobody it is I Got no Love, 585 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: No Love you can call real. But he dragged it 586 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: out of taking some some license, some creative license. Figure. 587 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: It's the first track on their debut album. Why not, 588 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: you know, take some creative license right off the bat. 589 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 7: Glad we resolved that before the end of the show. 590 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 7: It would have bugged me all night. 591 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 2: See, everybody's everybody does it. Everybody has their own interpretation 592 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: of what the guy is saying or the girl is 593 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: saying on the record, on the album, on the song, 594 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: and they it's so ingrained because they always thought that's 595 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 2: what they were saying that they even when they google 596 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: it and it says I was wrong all these ears, 597 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 2: it's still it doesn't feel right. So you know what, 598 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: you go ahead and singing sing I Got no Love, 599 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: No Love in Korea and I won't call you out. 600 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 7: I like that Credence song about there's a bathroom on 601 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 7: the right there's a bathroom on the right. 602 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. K if I AM six forty live everywhere on 603 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app 604 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: Kfi AM on demand