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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, heavy Thanksgiving, you too, coach?

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Speaker 2: I called him coach. Maybe maybe I'm starting to get

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Speaker 2: them Ducky and Bunny and me because I've done this

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Speaker 2: bit before. I I I just if you're grown man,

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Speaker 2: you don't call a guye coach, you go hey, keV,

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Speaker 2: what's up right, m.

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Speaker 1: You don't look at me and go hey talk show host?

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Speaker 1: Common do you?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: No? You know.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're a really big time like you're a doctor,

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Speaker 2: a lawyer, or a bear.

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Speaker 1: Ol min, that's a whole other thing. Doctor killed there.

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Speaker 1: Those are like professions though, where you got to like

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Speaker 1: really work hard, like schooling. Yes, so like you kind

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Speaker 1: of earned the title.

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Speaker 2: Well not just that, I mean you want to give

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Speaker 2: the doctor respect a special if he's like conducting a

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Speaker 2: heart transplant for you, you want to really like you

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Speaker 2: a doctor, I give you all the respects in the world.

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Speaker 2: By my heart is in your hands literally and figurative.

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Speaker 1: Will Yeah, same thing.

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Speaker 2: If you go to court your honor, for your honor,

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Speaker 2: if it pleases the court, you get down on your

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Speaker 2: hands and knees and.

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Speaker 1: Plead with please let me go.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, So there's the head coach soon to be

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Speaker 2: a big game World champion.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings be interested tonight.

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Speaker 2: I've not watched any Wolves basketball this year, just a

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Speaker 2: couple of bits and pieces in the very first game,

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Speaker 2: watched a couple of highlight packages of the meltdowns and

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Speaker 2: their last two losses. Tonight, I think, you know, day

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Speaker 2: before Thanksgiving, got the day off tomorrow, really not a

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Speaker 2: lot going on. So I think what I'll do is

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Speaker 2: I'll I'm going to watch Wolves versus the Oklahoma City Thunder.

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma City is their record seventeen and one or eighteen

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Speaker 1: I think it's seventeen. Yeah, why don you dial that up?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's one loss, and from what I understand,

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Speaker 2: they blew like a twenty point lead in that game.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, one blown game, seventeen wins. I guess you

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Speaker 2: know what, I guess I can let that. I can

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Speaker 2: let bygones be bygones and just let that one go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody is allowed a lemon or a turn

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Speaker 2: up because you can't squeeze squeeze blood out of either.

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Speaker 1: But in the Wolves, I don't know what to make

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Speaker 2: I I know I give them a hard time, and

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Speaker 2: it's just because I just feel like.

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Speaker 1: A lot of it's they bring it upon themselves.

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Speaker 2: With me, when you get the comments after losses that

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Speaker 2: other team just tried it hurt her. I know I've

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Speaker 2: done this thing so many times, but I'm we know

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Speaker 2: that all of their wins, I think come against losing teams.

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Speaker 2: All of their losses have come against winning teams. There

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Speaker 2: might be one game now in there that's the opposite

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Speaker 2: of that I don't recall, but for the most part,

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Speaker 2: they've beaten teams with losing records. They've lost to teams

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Speaker 2: of winning records, which is sounds like in Minnesota Golden

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Speaker 2: Gopher football team. I would hope we're past that here

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Speaker 2: with with with the Hometown five, you've been to the

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Speaker 2: Western Conference finals.

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Speaker 1: Two years in a row.

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Speaker 2: You know, the old bum Phillips thing got to the door,

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Speaker 2: knocked on the door, we're supposed to kick it in

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Speaker 2: this year. Chris Hine, who's a beat writer Fish Rep

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Speaker 2: Factory West Side for the Timberwolves, wrote a piece analysis

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Speaker 2: did the Wolves forget how to win close games? And

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Speaker 2: he takes a die into what's happened? We just talked

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Speaker 2: about these last two games. They had a eight point

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Speaker 2: lead with fifty seconds to go, against Phoenix and lost it.

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Speaker 2: They had a ten point lead with threeish minutes to

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Speaker 2: go against whomever it was Sack and lost lost that game,

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Speaker 2: he writes, last season, the Wolves are one of the

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Speaker 2: worst clutch teams in the league, with a twenty to

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Speaker 2: in those games defined by the league's games that were

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Speaker 2: stayed up late to watch those two choke jobs.

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Speaker 1: No, this is not a team ready for big moments.

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Speaker 2: Looking back at one of the most miraculous things about

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Speaker 2: last season's playoff or on was the Wolves actually played

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw that. I used the example the

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Speaker 1: The Wizards.

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Speaker 2: They were one and twelve coming into the game, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken. I think it was like a twenty

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Speaker 1: And it's not just the Wolves that do this. When

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Speaker 1: you are a let's call it as it is a vastly.

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Speaker 2: Superior team team than the other team on the other

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Speaker 3: That weird.

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Speaker 2: In basketball both teams are on the same side of

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Speaker 2: on the opposite sides, Baseball they're on the opposite sides.

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Speaker 2: Yet in in basketball they're both on the same side

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 2: These are the questions that keep me up ONNY But

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Speaker 2: they just don't match up with they don't. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: of It's like if you ever do this where if

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Speaker 2: You kind of play with one hand tied behind your

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Speaker 2: just know, well, at any time, well, obviously we're bigger,

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Speaker 2: you can go ahead and your clutch time rating looks

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Speaker 1: Those stats.

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Speaker 2: Again, there are so many sabermetrics and analytics that I

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Speaker 2: just kind of rolled my eye, shrug my shoulders, and

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Speaker 1: I just know are they winning games or losing games?

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Speaker 2: And so and right now the Wolves have a winning record,

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Speaker 2: but they haven't been so now tonight's the true It's

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Speaker 2: the ultimate test, right this is the best team in

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Speaker 2: know that the Pistons only have two losses. A couple

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Speaker 2: the day will be in June, there will be another

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Speaker 2: NBA champion and there will not be a repeat by

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Speaker 2: by Okay, see, but right now, I just if you're

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Speaker 2: You got the Oklahoma City Thunder is number one, So

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that's enough to stir some interest in the

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Speaker 2: won't hear at the end of the game, and a loss.

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Speaker 2: If they do lose, they just tried harder than we did.

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Speaker 2: They wanted it more than we did. We came out flat,

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Speaker 2: We didn't put out the proper effort. Hopefully, if they lose,

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Speaker 2: it's like they gave it everything they have. They have

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Speaker 2: a great game. No shame to lose to OKAC on

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Speaker 1: Shame in that.

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Speaker 2: But let's just give it to the old more than

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Speaker 2: a college trial. Let's give it to the all.

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Speaker 2: Well, if we give the NBA try, we're in trouble

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Speaker 2: saying they going at three quarter speed most of the time.

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Speaker 1: So we better give it the old college try and play.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, there's there's no law, rule or

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Speaker 1: A great example of that is Oklahoma City's one loss

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Speaker 3: No, who is it?

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Speaker 1: Portland? Portland? And what's Portland's record? It's a great question.

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Speaker 2: Common Band program with Common Devon and by the way,

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Speaker 2: soon to be joined by Duce and Mark Rosen at

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Speaker 2: two o'clock or spreads Wing as well right here.

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Speaker 3: On the fan.

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Speaker 1: A couple thirteen fourteen PASTI I'm.

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Speaker 2: Common, He's Devon in for ten and b on this

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Speaker 2: thing up. We call it today Thanksgiving because.

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Speaker 1: Today you think about what you're thankful for.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow Thanksgiving, you give thanks for what you're thankful for.

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Speaker 2: Then Friday is Thanksgiving, or you think about all the

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Speaker 2: things you think about that you thanked about Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: So it's a three day holiday. Think thank Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: You like it that?

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Speaker 4: Actually, I was wondering where it was going, And of

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Speaker 4: course you did once again, as so commonly happens here

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Speaker 3: You did not disappoint.

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Speaker 2: Thanks I thought you. So I forgot all about Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: I forgot all that.

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Speaker 3: It's good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and other people like to call it Drinksgiving

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Speaker 4: because traditionally this is a day where all these people

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Speaker 2: That's the voice of Brian Oak, who joins us for

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Speaker 4: my podcast is available just called The Brian Oak Show,

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Speaker 2: Not that I know that you do more than music

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow is Thanksgiving, Yes, today is Thanksgiving. There was a

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Speaker 2: Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant. I don't know how many of

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Speaker 2: Anyway, the opening scene is he's visiting a complete unknown.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize I missed him, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 4: It is like, you know, you do it better than

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Speaker 2: And I look better than Dylan, but that's only because

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Speaker 1: Sure, Alice's restaurant. I remember my brother turning me on

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Speaker 1: It's a story.

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Speaker 4: It runs like twenty minutes long. It's a fever dream,

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Speaker 3: It's a fever dream and it.

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Speaker 1: Took place on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: And he gets arrested because he went to the dump

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Speaker 3: That was a tradition. We played that every year on.

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: Is it kind of a fun musical holiday tradition?

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Speaker 2: I will listen to it because I always do on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: I've never made it through the whole song once. I've

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Speaker 4: honor of thank thank Thanksgiving that I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: I think you should.

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Speaker 2: Right, We'll take a break, we'll come back Greade another

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Speaker 2: half hour ago of rock talk here, then spread swing

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Speaker 4: Grum Reaper, The Grum Reaper, which again I can't remember

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Speaker 1: And it's a time for the grum Reaper to get

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Speaker 1: to work. Headline from CBS News.

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Speaker 2: Reggae music icon Jimmy Cliff, who's unique tone, lyricism, and

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Speaker 1: I don't mean Cliff your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the number one name everybody thinks.

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Speaker 4: Of when they think of Jamaican reggae, they think of

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Speaker 4: Right The brand ambassador more than anyone, but he died young.

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Speaker 4: And granted, he's got this killer catalog that everyone knows

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Speaker 4: including that major motion picture you're talking about. I would

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Speaker 2: says his animated on stage presence and high pitched tone

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00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 2: were unmistakable. Cliff released his last single, Human Touch, only

441
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: four years ago. According to the Associated Press, Cliff was

442
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 2: nominated for Grammy Awards seven times, won twice, taking Best

443
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: Reggae Album in nineteen eighty six with Cliffhanger and again

444
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: in twenty twelve with Rebirth.

445
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 4: And I can't speak to the quality of either of

446
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 4: those records, you know, by twenty twelve, I think what

447
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 4: we're doing there is just recognizing a living legend because

448
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 4: he'd been a hit maker at home since the sixties.

449
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 4: He's been around a very long time. And I'm gonna

450
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 4: be honest, you know, it's sad when a legend passes,

451
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 4: But I honestly didn't know that he was still alive,

452
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 4: so it was kind of a surprise when you sent

453
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 4: me that text. And I did a little digging and

454
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 4: I listened to a little Jimmy Cliff, and again, reggae

455
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 4: is not really my thing. But if it is your thing,

456
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: and you only are Bob Marley or Gregory Isaac's, Jimmy

457
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 4: Cliff is an important place to start. It might be

458
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 4: also something else to think, thank thunk about over this

459
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 4: long holiday weekend.

460
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 2: Do you have anything else or should we move on

461
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: with our favorite part of.

462
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: Uh, certainly your favorite part. I don't really have anything

463
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: else specific other than that story right there. There's undoubtedly

464
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: something out there. But as you and I both age,

465
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: what I find is when I go to all the

466
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 4: popular music news websites, it's routinely artists that sometimes I've

467
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 4: heard of them, but more and more, And this just

468
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: happens when you get older.

469
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: It's how the world works.

470
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 4: I've literally never heard of them, and they're being talked

471
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 4: about in these glowing terms. I'm like I always felt

472
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 4: that's kind of a matter of personal pride. Even if

473
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 4: I don't like it, I want to know about it,

474
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 4: and I know that the world and the music world

475
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 4: in particular, are leaving me behind. But I'm kicking and

476
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 4: scratching every every bit of the way.

477
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, rock rank, rock rank, rock rank, rock Rank,

478
00:23:54,160 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 5: Rock Rank, Rock Rank, Rock Rank, Rock Rank, rock rank rock.

479
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: I just love how much you love saying.

480
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the best part is tend to be put

481
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: it together.

482
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: And I think he had diego put it together or

483
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: something lost in the translation. So it didn't turn out

484
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: exactly how Tennabe wanted. But that's what makes it better

485
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: because it turned out exactly.

486
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: How I want it.

487
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: Just the importance of rock rank, rock rank, rock rank.

488
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: So you said, do we have a rock rank topic today?

489
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: I just said, well, Tennebe's out. We were texting. We

490
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 2: text and talk more than most people know we do.

491
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: So I know that you'd mentioned rock front women, you know,

492
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: not frontmen, but front women. You know, Jim Morrison would

493
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: be the frontman for the doors. I don't know if

494
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: we ever did that bit. If we did, I think

495
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: I probably was not really listening. I was just waiting

496
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: for my turn to talk eat lunch, lunch.

497
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: But then I I did the Just for the record,

498
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: we did do that one.

499
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 2: We did do it, I thought we did, we did,

500
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: and then but the other one I did is I

501
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: came in with best band names for rock and roll bands.

502
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 4: Right and this one, to me, there's no qualify. Can't

503
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 4: say well most clever with a Is it clever? Is

504
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 4: it funny? Is it stupid? I just went with my

505
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: five favorites, and I can tell you why. I don't

506
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: know the deep stories behind all of them, as I

507
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: think you do with yours.

508
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: But I've got a pretty good list right here.

509
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: Yes, well why don't we start? Are we doing? Like

510
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: five up to one?

511
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: Always? Man, that's how southdowns work. You never give away

512
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 4: your best stuff right away.

513
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: Okay, why don't you go with your fifth?

514
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: All right? My fifth would be.

515
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: Queens of the Stone Age, just because it's such a

516
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 4: confounding name and they happen to be the best band

517
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 4: on the planet right now. And the interviews with lead

518
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 4: singer josh Ami, he was like, well, we're trying to

519
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: come up with the name for the band because they

520
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 4: were doing kind of dirgy stoner rock out of the

521
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 4: American Southwest, the High Desert, Palm Desert, and they said

522
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 4: they were going to call themselves Kings of the Stone Age.

523
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 4: But that was just way too masculine and crusty, and

524
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: they decided, despite the absence of any women in the band,

525
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to get into a gender conversation, they

526
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: went with Jeans of the Stone Age, and I just

527
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 4: think it sticks out, but it also, over my twenty

528
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 4: plus year adoration of the band, comes to fit them perfectly.

529
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 3: I like Queens of the Stone Age for number five.

530
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: How about you?

531
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: Well, I let me see my order, because I here

532
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: we go.

533
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: This one would be Blood Sweat in Tears lead singer David.

534
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: I'll take your word for it. Why can't I think

535
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: of his.

536
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: Name just legendary? Is unique?

537
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 2: A voice is you'll ever find. I love the backstory

538
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: since I just love Blood Sweat and Tears. Here's what

539
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 2: it says. How they got the name. The band, Blood

540
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: Sweat and Tears got his name from an album cover

541
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: by Johnny Cash, not Winston Churchill's famous quote. Original member

542
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: Al Cooper came up with a name while on the

543
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: phone with a promoter and saw the Blood Sweat and

544
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: Tears album cover and said, that's the name of our band.

545
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: And I just love Blood Sweat and Tears, course meat sauce,

546
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: and I have sort of and Lerrym Manellogri've sort of

547
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: co opted it because we have our comedy series that's

548
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: called Flop.

549
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 4: Sweat and Tears, and it's close to home. And I'm

550
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: sure that Johnny Cash probably did get it from Winston Churchill.

551
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you know that's here's a pretty iconic speech. Yeah,

552
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 4: blood toil, tears and sweat speech. Okay, what it was

553
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 4: that blood toil, tiers and blood the band name blood toil,

554
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: Tears and sweat doesn't roll off the tongue.

555
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: Sweat.

556
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: They chopped it down marketing.

557
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: The people in marketing decided we needed to make this

558
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 4: more digestible.

559
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: Yes they did, indeed.

560
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: Number four, Number four.

561
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 4: Number four for me is a band that I know

562
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: precious little about other than they are prolific. They put

563
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 4: out several albums every single year, and.

564
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: Now it's Clayton Thomas's the latest singer's name, David Clayton.

565
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: And you're right, they know that's super iconic. No, that's fine.

566
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: This band is so prolific that I now they're twenty

567
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 4: plus albums into their relatively young career. I don't even

568
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: know where to start, because apparently they're different on every

569
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: album and I just it's so daunting to me. But

570
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: so I don't know anything about the band. However, as

571
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: a broadcaster, as you yourself are, we have a fondness

572
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 4: for alliteration, for rhyme, for meter, that sort of thing.

573
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 4: And so coming in at number four for me is

574
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 4: the surprisingly popular despite their name band, King Gizzard and

575
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: the Lizard Wizard. And that's real, and they have so

576
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: many albums. They come through the record store all the

577
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: time and I don't I don't know where to start.

578
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: People will buy them. I'm like, is that a good one?

579
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: They're like, that's great, and no, it doesn't matter what

580
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: album it is. But King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.

581
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 4: I don't know where it's from, but I love the rhyminess.

582
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: Number four for common, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do

583
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 2: one of their songs and tell me if you can

584
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: name it in a band hit me.

585
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: I feel it.

586
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: In my fingers, I feel it in my toes and

587
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: loves all around us.

588
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: No, well that's not it.

589
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: Oh, isn't it.

590
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: No, that's not it. In my fingers.

591
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 6: I feel it in my toes, and love is all

592
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 6: around us, And so the feeling grows the Trogs, their

593
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 6: most famous song, of course, wild Thing exactly.

594
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: Now here's the story behind the name, the Trogs. They

595
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: were originally called the Troglodytes, yeah, which of course are.

596
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: Cave dweller underground often Reptilian cave people.

597
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: They shortened the name to the Trogs after two hitchhikers

598
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: they gave a ride to call them grotty trogs, meaning

599
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: gross troglodites, few grotty trogs.

600
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: The name stuck with the band.

601
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: And was later used by their record label to be

602
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: more commercially friendly. The trog the trocks, the grotty trog Yeah,

603
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: the grotty trogs, the troglodites. And I just love that story.

604
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: The trog Yeah, No, troz is a cool name, and

605
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: I did. But that's backstory that I was not familiar with,

606
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: and I like that very much. Number three, number three.

607
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: This one is controversial, and the name was chosen specifically

608
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: because it was so controvers Nineteen eighties hardcore punk rock

609
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: was about cutting through the clutter. It was all noise,

610
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 4: so you had to be smart, you had to be agitator,

611
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 4: you had to have shock value. If you were going

612
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: to be a punk rocker, and you were going to

613
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 4: shape the system from its foundations with your mad music,

614
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 4: you had to you had to have a strong lead.

615
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: And fewer punk.

616
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: Bands, Although there are a wide variety to choose from,

617
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: fewer bands were better, more popular in the punk rock

618
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: and hardcore movements, or had a longer lasting impact than

619
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: that of Jello Biaffors led Dead Kennedy's. At the time,

620
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: the name was so impossibly shocking that there were portions

621
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: of the country that wouldn't even sell their records. It

622
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: was considered so wildly offensive. And the thing about this band,

623
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 4: they ended up being one of my favorite bands of

624
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 4: the eighties, not just because they were shocking and I

625
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 4: was rebelling against the system.

626
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: They were smart.

627
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 4: They were good at evoking the emotions they were going

628
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 4: to and they were so fun live. They were dynamic

629
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: and frightening, but they were intelligent. None of it was

630
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: a blunt force object. They knew exactly what they were

631
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: doing by picking that name. It remains extremely controversial and

632
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 4: highly offensive to a lot of people, and therefore that

633
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: also helps it say one of my favorites. Dead Kennedy's

634
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 4: at number three number three for common common comment.

635
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: Common I'm going to do another song and you tell

636
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: me the name of Okay, I'll try. And Harry doesn't

637
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: mind if he doesn't make the scene. He's got a

638
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: daytime job he's doing.

639
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 4: All right, you're talking about one of my very favorite

640
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 4: bands of all time from the Impossibly Well. They came

641
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: out of the cocoon and completely formed, granted after years

642
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 4: of being in pubs. But that self titled debut then

643
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: followed which the song comes from that you're talking about,

644
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: followed by making movies is one of the strongest one

645
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: two punches of a band ever in music. That would

646
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: of course be England's Dire Straits.

647
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: Yes, the band Dire Straits was named during the period

648
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: when the members were broke and financially struggling.

649
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: Uh huh.

650
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 2: In Dire Straits and fitting self deprecating description, it says

651
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: the band was formed in seventy seven many of the

652
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: members were in difficult financial situations. The name directly references

653
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: a struggle. It was a friend's suggestion. A flatmate, you know,

654
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: in other words, an apartment dweller, not a cave dweller,

655
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: an apartment well a flatmate of drum drug pick Withers

656
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: coined the name while the band was rehearsing, and the

657
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: term dire straits itself originates from the nautical term for

658
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: navigating through narrow, dangerous passages of water, which can be

659
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: a perilous or dire.

660
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: Situation if you're going between skill and charibdis like Homer

661
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: or in the Odyssey. Rather, Yeah, no, that's dire straits.

662
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: It's say it is a nautical term. Great band pick Withers,

663
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: of course, was in the earlier, earliest iteration of the band,

664
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 4: as well as their drummer.

665
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: And the song Sultan's a Swing Mark Knopfler, who is is?

666
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: Would you call him an underrated guitar play because when

667
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: people mentioned the great guitar players, I never hear his.

668
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: Name in that top five to ten list.

669
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: It's always clapped in this Jimmy page, that Jimmy Hendrix,

670
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: and they are well deserving of that.

671
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: Nfler in his finger picking style.

672
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: When you listen to if I'm not mistaken, when you

673
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: listen to Sultan's swinging he's playing, that's all fingerpicking he's doing.

674
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: He's not using an actual plastic pick. He's simply he's

675
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: a guitar guy.

676
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more I e. And he's well recognized

677
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: for that, but I would also agree underrated because he's

678
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: rarely As you pointed out in those conversations, I describe

679
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: him as the kind of guy because he's great with lyrics.

680
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: He's got this incredible voice. I describe him as a

681
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: guy that is capable of telling a story strictly with guitar.

682
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: He I mean, it obviously accents these words he's chosen,

683
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: but if he wanted to tell you a story, you

684
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: would know what the emotional vibe of that song is.

685
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 4: That guy is such a talented guitar player, and that

686
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: the one time I got to interview him, it was

687
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: a mind blowing moment once and he I said, all right,

688
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: so you've had top ten hits around the world, you've

689
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: toured the world, you've sold platinum records, you've done all

690
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: the things that people set out to do when they're

691
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: in these bands and when they're achieving this level. You've

692
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: done it all. What keeps you going? What is the

693
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 4: thing that you now work towards? What are you striving for?

694
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 4: And he took a breath, and he waited a moment,

695
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 4: and he said, you know, Brian, one of these days

696
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 4: I'd like to sit down and really learn how to

697
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 4: play this guitar. Wow, Which again I don't think it

698
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 4: was self deprecating or false modesty. I think that what

699
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: it did to me was illuminate that there isn't an

700
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 4: end to the journey.

701
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: There's not a final point.

702
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 4: As good as he is, there are things he wants

703
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: to explore and wants to accomplish on that instrument that

704
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 4: he hasn't gotten to yet. That to me was a

705
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: very eye opening moment talking to a musician. He's just

706
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more. One of the all time greats.

707
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: And the song Sultan's a Swing.

708
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: The background there is he came up with the idea

709
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: when they walked into a pub somewhere and it was

710
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: just some you know, you know, you know, you know,

711
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: it's in every city in America all across the world.

712
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: There are bands that will play a night Friday center

713
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: and just you know, a bar bands, I guess is

714
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 2: what you call him. There was a bar band playing

715
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: coming out of the rain, Yeah to hear the jazz

716
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: go down exac and he came up with the song

717
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 2: there and that was the song that really launched.

718
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: Because that was another one of those.

719
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: I compared the Direstraates a little bit of the cars,

720
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: and then it was a sound that was so different

721
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: than anything I'd ever heard. Yep, when you listen to

722
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: Sultan's a Swing, there was nobody doing a song like that,

723
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: and I think that's what really set them off and

724
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: running well.

725
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 4: They came from that storytelling tradition of British pub rock

726
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 4: in the seventies and obviously had taken it to an

727
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 4: incredible level and an amount of polish for a debut

728
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: album that self titled Debut. Dire Straits record songs like

729
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 4: you know, down to the water line of just the storytelling,

730
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: the quality of the playing. It's very rich and of

731
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 4: the moment. And yeah, it doesn't have an equal that,

732
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 4: it doesn't have a peer. It's a great, great song.

733
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: Number two. Number two. This is a band that's come

734
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: up a lot recently. One because they have a great

735
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 4: new documentary out, new Ish documentary, and two because they

736
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: were just in town at the Palace Theater over in

737
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: Saint Paul and I went to see them celebrating fifty

738
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 4: years of being a band and doing it and taking

739
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: it out on the road. Their name is their mission,

740
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 4: statement is their expression, both musically and visually and philosophically,

741
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 4: and that is Divo, which is short for devolution, which

742
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 4: was to highlight the concept that we are no longer evolving.

743
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: We are going back from whence we came into the sludge,

744
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: into the muck, everything which seemed to indicate it. And

745
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 4: fifty years later they've been proven right. We're not doing better.

746
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: We might have we might be able to get to

747
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 4: the destination faster, we might be able to figure out

748
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: an answer to something faster. As human beings, as the individuals,

749
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: as our brains. We are not evolving. Devolution is very real.

750
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: And Devo's been shouted from the mountaintop for fifty years.

751
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: And I just think Devo is a band whose name.

752
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: I can't think of anybody whose name exemplifies what they

753
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 4: are more than Devo.

754
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Number two Humble Pie also a great one. Peter Frampton

755
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: was in that band.

756
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: Originally, the band Humble Pie was named in response to

757
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: the press labeling them a supergroup, as the name was

758
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: intended to lower expectations and suggest a more modest image.

759
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: Steve Marriott came up with the name after a group

760
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: of suggestions was put into a hat and Humble Pie

761
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: was pulled out as the winning choice.

762
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: The name is a play on the phrase humble pie.

763
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: Which comes from an old culinary tradition of making a

764
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: dish with animal innerds or humbles the servants. Yeah, here,

765
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: here's your dinner for tonight, for the servants animal inners.

766
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: Steve Marriott is very underrated musician. Again, it's not a

767
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: name unless you really follow music. You don't recognize the

768
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: name Steve Mary if you're.

769
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 4: Not of a certain age, or you're not someone who's

770
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: spending all your time at the record store or digging

771
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: through old archives and watching old clips.

772
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: No, not a household name at all in the UK.

773
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: I would argue he probably is, but yeah, no small

774
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 4: faces and humble pie.

775
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: He was also.

776
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 4: I wouldn't put him on the level of guitar wizard,

777
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: but he was a brilliant rock star.

778
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: He was just a little fella too, but he was great.

779
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: Number one. You're your favorite band name of all time?

780
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 3: Number one.

781
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 4: Now, again, I don't go super deep on the band,

782
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 4: but I've never heard a song by them that I

783
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: don't like. They exemplify rock and roll. And the lead

784
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 4: singer who's very famous, and i'll tell you his name,

785
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: is in a minute of this band got kicked out

786
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 4: of another band, a very druggy prog rock band called Hawkwind,

787
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 4: because and I quote this is what he said, I

788
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 4: got kicked out of the band for doing the wrong drugs,

789
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 4: not just for doing drugs, for doing the and that

790
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 4: in a nutshell sort of sums up lem Me Killmeister

791
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 4: and the legendary band Motorhead. They had come up with

792
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 4: a couple of different names, but Motorhead was the last

793
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 4: song he had ever written when he was still in Hawkwind,

794
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 4: and he's like Motorhead and now and then they've got

795
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 4: the great logo that goes along with it, and just

796
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: the chugging, relentless, ferocious rock riffs that they put out.

797
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 4: Motorhead fits perfectly. And I think Motorhead is probably my

798
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: favorite band name of all time.

799
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: There were my top one number one for me, there

800
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: was a number I had to go through first of

801
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: all the Archies, hmm, the Partridge Family, Yeah, yeah, the

802
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 2: moms in the Papas.

803
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 4: Which is a great name. I've got a bunch of

804
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: honorable mentions. Minnesota. Trampled by turtles, Yes, hilarious, because you

805
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: can't get trampled by a Turtle.

806
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: Unless you're exceptionally small.

807
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 4: Camper Van Beethoven very clever what they did there with

808
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: camper Van and then Beethoven even our I don't want to.

809
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 4: I'm not going to spoil your number one in case

810
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 4: this is them, So shout out.

811
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: This one's not going to be number one for you.

812
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna be I know, it's not gonna be

813
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: in your honorable mentions beatles. Edgar Winter's White Trash White

814
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: Trash Destroyed Behind originated from a conversation between the band

815
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: members while struggling to find a name for their group.

816
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: According to an interview with former band member George Scheck,

817
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: one of Edgar Winner's bandmates mentioned that his grandmother had

818
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: asked him who these white trash people were, and the

819
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: name stuck. The band's name is a combination of Edgar

820
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: Winner's name in the phrase, which was in reference to

821
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: people from his hometown of Beaumont, Texas in New Orleans,

822
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: who are these.

823
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: White white trash?

824
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: I see, then what you do is you take that

825
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: mantle and you wear it proudly and you rock the world.

826
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

827
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: I think that's a great choice. And there, I mean,

828
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: there are some that are genuinely terrible, like the Goo

829
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 4: Goo Dolls and Toad the Wet Sprocket, both very hateable

830
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: names but successful despite that. Strawberry Longclock. The sixties was

831
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: full of goofy names like that, and shout out to

832
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 4: my friend Charch Explosions in the Sky. There are a

833
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 4: lot of your artier and more noisy bands that have

834
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: also and they will not us by the Trail of Dead.

835
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 4: Another great band name, there's there's a lot of them

836
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: out there.

837
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: Well, and then they're from uh from Diary a Wimpy Kid.

838
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: Uh the name of the band for Roderick. He had

839
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: a band was called Exploded Diaper No loaded diaper, right,

840
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: and then this song was exploding Tiper loaded Diper.

841
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 4: Great name, that's well, it's very on brand for Diary

842
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 4: of a Wimpy Kid.

843
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: Dous You wanted to ask him about a band name, right,

844
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: you texted me and.

845
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 7: Well, I just want to I just wanted to ask

846
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 7: if you're familiar with the Tame and Paula that quy Oh,

847
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 7: absolutely okay, because I wanted to make sure I wasn't

848
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 7: going crazy, because I love You're not going crazy.

849
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: Tame and Paula is especially worldwide their message.

850
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured you.

851
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 7: Had probably heard of them, and I wanted to hear

852
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 7: your thoughts.

853
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 4: No, No, they they are, I mean kind of in

854
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: the last ten years, as big a non mainstream deal

855
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: as there is, right, I mean, they're a huge going concern.

856
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 4: They get played on local stations like the Current, stuff

857
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: like that, and people definitely know Tame and Paula and

858
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 4: it's kind of groovy and atmospheric. There's some stuff I

859
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 4: bet even your old man would like in the Tame

860
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: and Paula catalog.

861
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

862
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 7: I got to put him onto some of this newer

863
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 7: stuff because, don't get me wrong, I love listening to

864
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 7: some of his older music, but there's there's plenty of

865
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 7: new stuff.

866
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: What do you think of the song the the Low

867
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: Spark of high heel Boys. He doesn't like that, doesn't

868
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: understand that is one of these literally one of the

869
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: top ten songs of all times.

870
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: Well, I can't again, I can't follow you that far

871
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 4: into the woods, but I will say, like I mean,

872
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: I would rather hear mister Fantasy personally, you know. But again, traffic,

873
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: all of those people in Traffic were unbelievably good, and

874
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 4: that doesn't always mean when you put all like thus

875
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 4: the curse or the lowered expectations of the supergroup, when

876
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 4: you put people that talented together does not necessarily mean

877
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 4: it's going to be great. But in the case of

878
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 4: Traffic and Absence, well, I just love.

879
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: The lyric from Los Barkhil Boys says, and the man

880
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: in the suit has just bought a new car from

881
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Speaker 2: the PropheC.

882
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: He's made on your dreams. It's just so good.

883
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Speaker 2: Well and also a little two poignant Franklin Right. Well,

884
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: and here's what's really cool. But apparently they're doing the

885
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: song while they're recording it. Songwriter, why can't I think

886
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: this is going to be bad for me? Because he's

887
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: one of the greatest songwriter. He wrote most of the

888
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: songs for Traffic, Oh, but he screwed Jim CAPOLDI so

889
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: Jim Jim Capaldi scrawls out a third verse while they're

890
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: playing the song, hands it to win Would and then

891
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: Winwood takes it while it's in the original recording and

892
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: he sings, is it just reading it off the papers

893
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: and nails it that it's rock and roll, that's for sure.

894
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the way it's supposed to be.

895
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: So he wrote the third verse while they were playing,

896
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Speaker 2: because it's a twelve minute song. So they're doing jams

897
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: and it's you know, the sacks gets the guitars and

898
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: the whole thing, and he just he scrawls out a

899
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Speaker 2: third verse and hands it to him.

900
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Speaker 1: He plays. It's just one of those stories. Rock stories are.

901
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: So I love rockfall. That's why we do rock talk.

902
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

903
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Speaker 7: When Bill gets kicked out of loaded diaper at the

904
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Speaker 7: end of Roger rules, that's rock and roll, man, that's

905
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 7: rock and roll.

906
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Speaker 1: Man, we're out of the band after the show. What

907
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: do you mean that's rock and rock and roll?

908
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: Go see School of Rock with Jack black Man. I

909
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 4: mean that's you know, that's rock and roll.

910
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Speaker 2: Right.

911
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 4: It's a fantastic spinal tap also brilliant crucial the number

912
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: of bands. So what I interviewed artists in Studio C

913
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Speaker 4: for nearly twenty years, the number of times they referenced

914
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Speaker 4: spinal tap. If you've made bands, if you've if you've

915
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,439
Speaker 4: captured the essence of what it's like to be a band,

916
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Speaker 4: whether you're on the way up or on the way

917
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Speaker 4: down or whatever. So beautifully and so acutely that bands

918
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Speaker 4: thirty forty years later are still referencing your film. You

919
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Speaker 4: got something right. You are correct again. We can find

920
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Speaker 4: your podcast, where five hundred and thirty four episodes are

921
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Speaker 4: currently available through the iHeartRadio app. Just look up the

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Speaker 4: Brian Oakshow.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, have a great Thanksgiving. We'll see you and give

924
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Speaker 2: give a listen to the whole thing Alis's restaurant talk fot.

925
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Speaker 4: I promise I will and have a great sprint swing

926
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Speaker 4: every Thanksgiving everybody.

927
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Speaker 1: Yeah you too.

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Speaker 3: That's spread.

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Speaker 1: Swinger is next year on the Fan