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Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI A M six forty on demand. Yolanda,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Are Orlanda You there?

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness? Going once?

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Speaker 2: Can you hear?

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Speaker 1: Oh? There you are? Yes? I can?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Ylanda?

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Speaker 2: Well, just me, I lost my job. I've been working

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Speaker 2: there for seventeen years. M And my husband as well,

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Speaker 2: he's not working and so we were staying at a

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Speaker 2: place and we had everything, you know, car, house, everything,

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Speaker 2: and right now we're living in our car and we've

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Speaker 2: been living here for for about three months now. It's

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Speaker 2: been really really hard for me because well, you and

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Speaker 2: I've always been self sufficient and helping others, and right

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Speaker 2: now I just feel I just feel really really bad,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I just don't know what to do.

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Speaker 2: At one point, I was fifty one fifty and I

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Speaker 2: didn't want to do anything, and then I thought I

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Speaker 2: should divorce my husband.

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Speaker 1: And now would you say you were fifty one fifty?

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Speaker 1: Was that by by law enforcement or did you have

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Speaker 1: an altercation? Who put you? Who put that label on

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Speaker 1: you and checked you in?

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Speaker 2: Well, I went to I was just driving around and

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Speaker 2: I was I had stopped in front of the middle

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Speaker 2: me what was wrong and my car was all and

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Speaker 2: I said no, and I said I wanted to drive

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Speaker 2: my car to through the barrier or something, and he said,

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Speaker 2: he just said what and he pulled out learn and

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Speaker 2: the five cops came and then they talked to me.

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Speaker 2: They downtacked me, and then I went to the hospital

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Speaker 2: and so I was they put me fifty and fifty okay.

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Speaker 1: Which is essentially they they're concerned that you're going to

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Speaker 1: be a harm to yourself for others, right, yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: And and do you feel that that was just a

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Speaker 1: nervous breakdown of sorts or just a just overload, or

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Speaker 1: do you feel do you have other concerns that maybe

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Speaker 1: you should be seeing a doctor about.

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Speaker 2: No, it's just an overload of everything that happened. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I know I've had a lot of material

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Speaker 2: things and I know now that then does that mean

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Speaker 2: for not working?

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Speaker 1: I want to go through one of you.

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Speaker 2: My husband for twenty years gay, so really let me down.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, you know each other out.

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Speaker 1: But but you guys are together, right, You're living you're

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Speaker 1: both living together in the car at this point, right,

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Speaker 1: we are okay, and it's hard to cling cling to

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Speaker 1: any hope, right right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so you know the time, I'm embarrassed to

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Speaker 2: ask family for anything because I guess in my pride

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Speaker 2: and people have always come to me, yeah, for help,

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Speaker 2: and I've always been there for them.

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Speaker 1: And and did you make fun of them afterwards and

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Speaker 1: laugh as you gave them help?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, then then they're not They're not going to do

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Speaker 1: that either. You know, there's something interesting about givers, people

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Speaker 1: that like to give. There's sometimes when it's incredibly healthy,

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Speaker 1: and then there's some other times where it's like, well

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Speaker 1: you have to allow other people to give as well,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes that's what breaks the cycle. When God's trying

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Speaker 1: to teach humility, sometimes you have to go through humiliating things.

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Speaker 1: And you're in a situation right now where God's trying

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Speaker 1: to teach you something and if that is to learn

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Speaker 1: how to receive, then you better learn how to receive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, because you know right now, you know,

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Speaker 2: we don't have that much money and we've just been fine.

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Speaker 2: You know, you just put money forget job search.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you've got You've got a big hill ahead

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Speaker 1: of you. I understand that, but I want you to

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Speaker 1: think about something for a moment though. I want you

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Speaker 1: to think about when you were younger. Let's say you

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Speaker 1: thirty five and older, will experience things, and when they

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Speaker 1: experience something that's maybe not as traumatic as what you're

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Speaker 1: of the road. But to a seventeen year old, to

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Speaker 1: be living in your car is in their mind independence

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Speaker 1: and that they're still going to make something. There's that

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Speaker 1: hope really is the propellant there. And as people get older,

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Speaker 1: And you are still the same person that built all

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Times have changed and their circumstances are what they are,

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Speaker 1: and they'll change again, but you still have to hold

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Speaker 1: onto that same kind of ignorant bliss that a seventeen

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Speaker 1: year old does that makes things happen. That's what makes

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Speaker 1: young people so wonderful is they're just fearless. They just go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is where I'm at right now, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: doomed to stay here. There are ways out of this,

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Speaker 1: and I will find ways. And they're not afraid to

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Speaker 1: ask for help. And you need to find the spirit

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Speaker 1: of your seventeen year old, of the younger you that

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Speaker 1: built all those things in the first place, and say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I love my husband, he loves me. We're living in

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Speaker 1: our car, We're in the horrible situation, but I refuse

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Speaker 1: to die in this situation, whether it's emotionally, spiritually, intellectually, emotionally,

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Speaker 1: that hope you have to. Otherwise you're just two people

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Speaker 1: transitional period. But you know you have to transition and

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Speaker 1: find out what that next thing is. It's not just

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Speaker 1: about looking for a job. It's all those things right now.

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Speaker 1: It's about keeping your marriage together and finding humor and

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Speaker 1: other things in your circumstance that will allow you to

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Speaker 1: live and be human and not become that circumstance, otherwise

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Speaker 1: you will have the stink of it on you everywhere

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Speaker 1: you go and people won't want to be around. You

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Speaker 1: find that hunger again and that that that desire for hope,

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Speaker 1: and that confidence in the gifts that God gave you,

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Speaker 1: and that you continue to have to build something again.

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Speaker 2: Well I know it because I've always been My job

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Speaker 2: is always giving.

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Speaker 1: And now new job, by the way you'll wand a

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Speaker 1: new job, you are no longer the giver. You now

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Speaker 1: have to be the receiver. Can you do that just

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Speaker 1: for a little bit? And then you the only thing

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Speaker 1: I want you to give is to give the spirit

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Speaker 1: a hope. In that car and that circumstance, you find hope.

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Speaker 1: You find ways to clean yourself up and to feel human.

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Speaker 1: And it is merely a place you stay. And if

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Speaker 1: you think that it's your home forever, that's where you

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Speaker 1: have a problem. But you can't be in that mentality

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Speaker 1: when you go to a you know, a hotel and

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Speaker 1: and you can't. You can't be in that mindset. You

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Speaker 1: have to know this is temporary, This is a situational circumstance.

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Speaker 1: This this will and can change. I went from from

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Speaker 1: coming from the womb of my mother to being an

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Speaker 1: to having a home, all these things, and some of

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Speaker 1: that has been taken away, but I still remember how

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Speaker 1: to do it. I still have the tools. I still

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Speaker 1: believe in hope, and I can do it. And if

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Speaker 1: you go with that mentality, Yolanda, you can change. You

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Speaker 1: built things before, you will build them again. Save and

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Speaker 1: protect your marriage, save and protect your lives, Save and

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Speaker 1: protect your hope. Francis, Welcome to Jesus Christ show.

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Speaker 4: Oh hold on a minute, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: What you watch? You watching a movie on an old

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Speaker 4: Just tumbling some brass and of course a minute you

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, tumbling some brass. That's not like a euphemism

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Speaker 4: Sir, just a little reloading for the weekends.

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Speaker 1: I see, I see.

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Speaker 4: That's it the question I had, quite seriously, I had

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Speaker 4: a leader or not. One of my friends who's actually

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Speaker 4: older than I am, has to become a Buddhist and

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Speaker 4: I got to witness a debate. The question came up,

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Speaker 4: did Jesus really die for the sins of man? Or

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Speaker 4: was he just a pain in the neck to the

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Speaker 4: and made an example out of him. Big mistake.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it didn't help their cause.

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Speaker 4: Really, that rarely does well.

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Speaker 1: For instance, those aren't mutually exclusive.

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Speaker 4: Correct one other things. And then, and I've never really

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Speaker 4: understood this, what exactly is original sin? So take it away?

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Speaker 1: his purpose for things. So, in a quick nutshell, due

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Speaker 1: to time, that's basically what original sin is. But when

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Speaker 1: politics that played into it. Yes there were those that

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Speaker 1: it paints the big picture of what took place that

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Speaker 1: Easter weekend so long ago. John, Welcome to the Jesus

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I am well, John, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Well? I just turned forty seven.

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Speaker 1: Yes, oh, congratulations, Happy birthday, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: I'm a devout Christian. I don't attend church. I probably

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Speaker 5: feel myself being more spiritual. I'm a recovering addict. I

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Speaker 5: ended up having one surgery and got an infection in

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Speaker 5: So I'm completely disabled, have no way to support myself.

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Speaker 5: My parents have been supporting me. They have sacrificed everything

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Speaker 5: for me. I know that God has a plan for me.

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Speaker 5: I used to skydive, I was in a plane crash.

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Speaker 5: I've survived two motorcycle accidents and two overdoses. My health

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Speaker 1: And this is not and this is not the first

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Speaker 1: time we spoke, Ray John, this is.

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Speaker 5: Not the first time we've spoke.

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Speaker 1: That's correct, Okay, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I have a strong belief that God has a plan

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Speaker 5: for me. I don't know what it is. I just

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Speaker 5: and and hurt. I just don't know how to repair

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Speaker 1: Well, hold that thought, because I want to talk to

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Speaker 1: Salome to you, my dear, what is going on?

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Speaker 3: Well, first, I should say that I'm a Jewish believer,

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Speaker 1: Well to me, we're happy to have you. How how

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, I've been managed depressive since I was a child,

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the interesting thing, Rachel's that when someone

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Speaker 3: Well, because of the way being manic. I did things

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Speaker 1: No, No, hold that thought. We're going to come back,

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Speaker 1: We were talking with Rachel. Rachel, you were saying that

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Speaker 3: Well, let's see to give you a little more background.

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Speaker 3: My sister took care of my mom for twenty years. Well,

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Speaker 3: I had both girls when right in a row, and

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't see me, they wouldn't see the girls. We

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Speaker 3: had no communication. Okay, I wanted to see him and

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Speaker 3: fix the situation. I went to a counselor, but they

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Speaker 3: were afraid of me.

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Speaker 1: Who was afraid of you?

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Speaker 3: My mom and sister?

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Speaker 1: Well, because you had episodes or acted out.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the side when I go manic, I go psychotic.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, wonderful, but you've seen a medical professional sense

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Speaker 1: and they have you on medication that levels you out

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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yes. The thing is this, when I went to Reno,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know anybody. I went with this monster and

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Speaker 3: we just took an apartment there.

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Speaker 1: And of course this was mister wrong.

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Speaker 3: You were saying, yes, and of course he was schizophrenic. Well,

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Speaker 3: I met him in the mental institution.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, that just seems like a match made in

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Speaker 1: somewhere other than heaven, That doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, he was an alcoholic.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a critic And Rachel time is going

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Speaker 1: to creep up on us. My dear, I need a question,

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Speaker 1: so I can.

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Speaker 3: Maybe give you some questions. Well, my girl, my youngest

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Speaker 3: won't even speak to me now, and my eldest doesn't

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Speaker 3: even want me mentioning her name because I favored her.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And what when they when you have these altercations

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Speaker 1: that they tell you that they don't want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you or see you anymore, what reasons do they

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Speaker 1: give you?

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Speaker 3: Well, the one daughter that is in me speaking to me,

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Speaker 3: she picked out another lady to be her mother. So

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Speaker 3: it's like I'm not even her mother anymore.

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Speaker 1: And she she did that, she says because of because

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Speaker 1: of who I am, that it was just too much. Well, obviously,

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Speaker 1: what's going on, Rachel is an intense situation with you know,

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Speaker 1: severe mental concerns. When you're manicked to oppressive to that degree,

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Speaker 1: and you get crazy as in your words, when you

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Speaker 1: get manic, then you say you get psychotic. That can

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Speaker 1: be very intimidating children of any kind. Human beings, by

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Speaker 1: their very nature are looking for constants or looking for

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Speaker 1: order in their life, not disorder. Everybody seeks out those

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Speaker 1: things that point to order, that order points to security

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Speaker 1: and safety. When you are erratic at times, or you

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Speaker 1: do things that are out of the norm or chaotic

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Speaker 1: and strange, it can be very off putting to those

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Speaker 1: that love you, and especially to those that look to

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Speaker 1: you for guidance and stability, like children. So it sounds

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Speaker 1: like there's a lot going on. It sounds like you're

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Speaker 1: getting medical help, which is key in a situation like this.

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Speaker 1: Rebuilding the bonds with your children is a matter of

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Speaker 1: time and a matter of effort. Writing letters and letting

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Speaker 1: them know how you feel and seeing if things can

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Speaker 1: be put back together is going to be key. It's

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Speaker 1: not going to come easy because they don't. They're still

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Speaker 1: looking at you as a doctor Jekyll and mister Hyde,

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Speaker 1: not knowing which one's going to come out at which time. Remember,

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Speaker 1: more importantly than all this craziness, these simple words, I

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Speaker 1: am with you Always KF I am six forty on

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Speaker 1: demand