1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's your radio home of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: Want to two point five TV Randy Bauman and the 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: DVE Morning Show welcoming future Hall of Famer quarterback for 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: your Pittsburgh Steelers super Bowl champion, Ben Roethlisberger. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. He took the big band like the 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Batman call. 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: I sent out the big Ben call and he answered, 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: So we appreciate it. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: Happened to be getting home from dropping the kids off 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: at school and I'm like, let me see what they're 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: talking about in the morning show, and then you called 12 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: me out. 13 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: Well, because I don't agree with you. 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 3: I'm used to be in pursuit of I used to 15 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 3: be a pursuita so this is different. Now I'm hoping 16 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 3: he's still there. 17 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I'm here. 18 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: I like to think, well, look, you know, I'm being 19 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: diplomatic about it. 20 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: I just don't agree with you. 21 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: If you could explain it, explain your theory on strategy 22 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: for the Steelers going into this draft and quarterback for 23 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: this upcoming season. 24 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: Well, I've said it before and I'll see you to 25 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: say it. I think the I think too many teams 26 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: try and get a quarterback and try and take a flyer, 27 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: maybe not a flyer, but a chance on a quarterback, 28 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: and they build a team around a quarterback. I think 29 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: that can work sometimes if the quarterback is a quote 30 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: unquote can't miss type quarterback, which I don't think it. 31 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: I think those are a few and far between nowadays. 32 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: Look what's going on in Arizona right now, right Kyler 33 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: Murray's getting released. Kyler Murray was the number one overall pick. 34 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: I mean, they got him and they trying to build 35 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: a team around him. I'm a proponent of building a 36 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: team and then finding your quarterback to plug into that team, 37 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: because then you can kind of maybe take a chance 38 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: here or there, and if it doesn't work, you're like, Okay, 39 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a different guy. It happened with me 40 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: right like. The team was there and then I got 41 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: plugged in. I think I got put into a really 42 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: good situation. But build the team and then you can 43 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: put your quarterback into it. So my biggest take on 44 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: the Will Howard thing, I know, because that seems to 45 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: be everyone's, you know, was Will's not like people think 46 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: he's like my cousin or something. I'm defending him. I'm 47 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: just saying we got to give the guy a chance. Right, 48 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: he played it. He played it high level for a 49 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: very good football team. Some would argue a minor league 50 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: NFL team. Right, Ohio State was very good. I like 51 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: the fact that I think part of it is I 52 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: like the fact that he struggled in that Oregon game. Right, 53 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: he made a mistake, he slid time, ran out, big mistake. 54 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: He doesn't go into the tank, he takes the he 55 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: takes it on himself, says I screwed up, not gonna 56 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: happen again. And he goes out and pretty much puts 57 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: together a national championship performance with some good players. I'm 58 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: not saying he did on his own. But and then 59 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: he sat in my basement and did the show, and 60 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: I could just see in his eye and the way 61 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: he talked how much he wanted to be here. Because 62 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: you look at that draft class and I'm not going 63 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: to say anybody's name, but when he will was fourth round, right, 64 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: I believe fourth round? Yeah, when he got drafted six round? Okay, 65 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: even better, when he got drafted in the sixth round? 66 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: What did what did he do? When he got drafted? 67 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: He called, He asked for the playbook, he wanted to 68 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: dive into the offense. There are other quarterbacks that were 69 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 3: taken late that were celebrating and doing this, that and 70 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: the other. I just like the fact that he like 71 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: it's like I'm ready to go, like I want to 72 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: dive into this thing, and he just has a heart 73 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 3: and a passion for it. I think there's something to 74 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: be said about that. That's just what I'm saying. Now, 75 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: he may go out there and not be worth a lick, 76 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: and I'll be like, you know what, I was wrong? 77 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: But how do we know if we don't give a chance. 78 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: So he's like Schrodinger's quarterback. 79 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: He's simultaneously good and bad until we lift the box 80 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: off and find out. This is my issue is that 81 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: you can't bank on he might be good because he 82 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: might not be good. Outweighs that we don't know. There's 83 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: too much unknown about him. I'm not saying don't investigate 84 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: and find out. I just don't think you bank a 85 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: strategy on he could be the guy. 86 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: You find out if he's okay. 87 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: So what what happens if he's not the guy? 88 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: Randy, Well, it depends on what you're saying that you're 89 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: foregoing to find out. 90 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: In a center where he's playing, and you find out 91 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: he's not the guy. 92 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's playing, he's not the guy to steer 93 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: us have a bad record in what happens. They're built 94 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: their Remember. I guess my biggest thing in saying this 95 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: is that I don't think the Steelers should go get 96 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: a quarterback anytime in the in the first couple of rounds, Like, 97 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: don't don't go get the Simpson out or anything. Don't 98 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: do that. Build the team, Get receivers, get corners, get 99 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: lined build this team. And if you put Will in 100 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: and Will is not worth a lick, and you can 101 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: then guess what, You're gonna have a not a good season. 102 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: And our Steeler fans some are gonna be okay this 103 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: summeror not. You're not gonna have a good season. And 104 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: what you're gonna do is you're gonna get a top 105 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: pick and you can find out if there's a good 106 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: quarterback that you want in the draft. But while you 107 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: were waiting and seeing what Will Howard did, you were 108 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 3: building a team that you can plug a young quarterback into. 109 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: I agree with it. 110 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: If he ends up being if he ends up being 111 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: worth worth a lick. And it's like Okay, we might 112 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: have something here. Let's continue to build a team and 113 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: develop and see what we can do. 114 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 4: I agree with the not draft of one because correct 115 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong, Ben, But you can't develop two 116 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: young guys at the same time like you have Will 117 00:04:54,680 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 4: Howard in place like Dylan Gabriel and should raft. You 118 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: can't practice enough. There's not enough preseason reps. But what 119 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: stuns me is you're as competitive a human being as 120 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: I have ever encountered, and you have a reputation for 121 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 4: being that, and you embrace that and you live that. 122 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: And when did you become okay with the team all 123 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: of a sudden? Okay, you just think, so what now? 124 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: At least you get good draft picks out of it. 125 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: I'm not but I no, listen, I'm not the quarterback. 126 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: If I was the quarterback, I wouldn't I wouldn't be 127 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: okay with that. But as a fan, now it's like 128 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: we have to find because if you just keep taking 129 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: are you going to just keep swinging for the fence 130 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: and hope that one gets hit out of the park 131 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: and you just keep striking out? Why not build the 132 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: team and take a chance. And again, look what the 133 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: Patriots did No one likes to talk about the Patriots, 134 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: but I used to the other day. They had what 135 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: two down years and all of a sudden they're beat again. 136 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: We had two four and thirteen seasons. 137 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: I mean again, I understand that the standard is what 138 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: it is around here, But are you are fielder fans 139 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: willing to have a one or two down years in 140 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: or to maybe get their guy of the future for 141 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: that can last for the next ten to twelve thirteen 142 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: years and have a legit like if Will's If you 143 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: build a team and Will is even just competent, again, 144 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: we don't even Aaron Rodgers is probably gonna play a 145 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: sure anyway. But if Will is competent and you end 146 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: up being like, wow, we can sneak one in and 147 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: get into playoffs and you never know what could happen? 148 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: Is that not a good thing? And if it doesn't happen, 149 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: then you're building for the future. 150 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: So, assuming I know this. 151 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 3: Dealer, the Ruins don't want to talk about the future, 152 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: I get we're not rebuilding, But build a team around 153 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: a quarterback and then put a quarterback in it. 154 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: So in the scenario where Aaron Rodgers does not return, 155 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: how does Mason Rudolph fit into that. Do you just 156 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: bypass him and keep him at number two and put 157 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: Will Howard at number one out of just needing to 158 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: find out the potential there being the parent. 159 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, all this is obviously speculating, and 160 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: if Aaron's not coming back, right, I would I would 161 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: think that if Aaron doesn't come back, I don't think 162 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: there's anything wrong with that in that scenario, then okay, 163 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: well you have three third round picks. I think I 164 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: don't think there's an issue with maybe see if you 165 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: got if there's someone there in the third or fourth 166 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: that you just can't pass on as a young quarterback, 167 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: I will potentially do it there, or I would go 168 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: get a veteran quarterback that there's there's a couple guys 169 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: out there that I know people don't want to talk about, 170 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: But what's the problem with just having a guy? Well, 171 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: I think I think there's a there's a Marcus Mariot. 172 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: I think there's Carson Wentz. I know that those are 173 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: the names that people don't want to talk about. But 174 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: if you're just talking about a good, solid veteran that 175 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: can come in and play one game, not as a starter, 176 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: but a guy that's like we need to get out 177 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: of a game with or we need you know, there's 178 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: an injury. Why why wouldn't you want a guy that's 179 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: approved veteran guy that's a good locker room guy, a 180 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: guy that can help a young quarterback. Isn't that? Isn't 181 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: that what the point of having a good veteran is. 182 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: I had a bunch of great veterans, Charlie Batch, Byron, 183 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: all those guys, Bruce Gretkowski, they come in for one game, 184 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: come in to relieve you. That's what That's what a 185 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: true veteran backup supposed to do about. You're prepared to 186 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: play the game. 187 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: What about a cheap kyler? Murray thinks he's gonna be cheap, Yeah, 188 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: because they got a pain. 189 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: He's kind of into Russell's situation from a couple of 190 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: years ago, where they are they've out there, yeah, thirty 191 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: million or whatever. 192 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: So maybe, I mean, I think that's I think that's 193 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: a I think that's a ticket seller. I don't know 194 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: that that's your What are you just doing a one 195 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: day again? I'm I'm thinking more of you bringing a 196 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: guy in that helps develop Will Howard helps develop of 197 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: you know, a third or fourth round guy. And if 198 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: you want to put Mason in there to compete in 199 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: that group, then let him compete. Let me see what 200 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: he can do. But I'm talking more about getting a 201 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: guy that just is not coming in to be your starter. 202 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: But a Kyler comes. 203 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: Back, it has a pedigree as a starter, so that 204 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: he can pass down. 205 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: He can be the. 206 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: Crash Davis to this to Will Howard in the meantime, 207 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: while you're waiting to find out if there's a guy 208 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 2: in the next year or year after draft to be 209 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: year or the. 210 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: Year after that. Yeah, exactly correct. Yeah, and again it's 211 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: it's you're not looking for a starter in that veteran guy. 212 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: You're looking for a locker room guy. You're looking for 213 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: a leader. You're looking for another I mean, because Will 214 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: just meant last year under Aaron, he might get another year. 215 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 3: That's a great thing. But you get another guy in 216 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 3: there that's a veteran guy that can help continue to 217 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: teach him how to be a probe. That was huge 218 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: for me. Having having Tommy and and Byron and Charlie 219 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: and these guys is awesome. 220 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: Was Tommy cool like about that stuff? 221 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: I didn't know if you had like a Brett farre 222 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: standoffish thing, and he was kind of upset that he 223 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: got unseated before he you know, before he thought he 224 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: was going to have to be early. 225 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: Early on, I think there was definitely some like, well, 226 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: I'm healthy, I'm ready to get back out there. But 227 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: I think it just kind of it kind of developed 228 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: into more of a of a better relationship than than 229 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: it was the first you know, obviously it's the first 230 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: couple of games when he's ready to come back, he's 231 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: ready to get back out there. But when you're you 232 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 3: haven't lost, it's kind of hard to switch things out. 233 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: But then the next year and stuff like that, it 234 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: definitely got better. 235 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: Ben, What did you think of Rogers last year? And 236 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: what would you project from Rogers if they get him 237 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 4: a really good veteran in free agency and a really 238 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: good UH rookie in the draft wide receiver? 239 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 3: What was the first part of that question? Sorry broke 240 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 3: up for a second. 241 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 4: What did you think of how Rogers played this year? 242 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: I mean I thought he I thought he played well, 243 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 3: coming into a new system. He was he was kind 244 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: of i'd say, late to the party, right, but coming 245 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: in late, and you know, no one knows how much 246 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: he had of the playbook. I think if if Aaron 247 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 3: comes back this year with McCarthy that I mean, he's 248 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: it's like going home, right, He's gonna know the offense. 249 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: I can't imagine McCarthy's changed the offense from when Aaron 250 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: played so many years in it. And I think with 251 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: if they indeed go receiver first or second round, and 252 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: as well, why is that to be one or why 253 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: can't it be both? 254 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: Right, let's assume let's assume both. 255 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: Well, are we assuming both? I mean we we we 256 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: hope both. Okay, let's hope for a veteran guy. Let's 257 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: hope for a guy in the draft, and then and 258 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: then hopefully, you know, McCarthy would use Friar muth a 259 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: lot more the way he needs to be used. I 260 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: think that the chance for Aaron in this offense, it 261 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 3: could really there's a there's the potential, I'll say, for 262 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: this offense to explode this year, I really believe, just 263 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: because and I think the big reason for that is 264 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 3: because of Aaron's comfortability with. 265 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: The offense they got. 266 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: I mean, it just it feels like you guys don't 267 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 3: realize like what it does to you, Like you just 268 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: feel so liftid, like, man, are you kidding me? I 269 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: know this thing? This is like it's it's just, it's 270 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: something to it, it's just and he can go out 271 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: there and play. So he changed plays this year at 272 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and did his thing and and 273 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 3: and he barely knew that offense. And I say barely 274 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: knew it in the sense that it was newer to him. 275 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: And within the year now going to something, he goes 276 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: back to, are you kidding me? It could be? It 277 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: could be really special. 278 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: Well, let me let me ask you this about your 279 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: Ben or your your Will Howard SERI, how does DK 280 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: Metcalf respond to that? 281 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: To have him to having will Howard? 282 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 283 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'll be honest with you. I mean, listen, 284 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: you go from the potential, as I said, potential Hall 285 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: of Famer to a guy that is unproven. I can't 286 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: imagine he's gonna be overly excited about it. I don't 287 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: even think. But but but again, it's not like DK 288 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: went and had two thousand yards last year and fifty touchdowns. 289 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: No like to me. 290 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: To me, DK can only get better in this. So 291 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: he's got to be thinking. Like sometimes guys, when you 292 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: have a veteran wide receiver. He actually likes a young 293 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: guy because he can kind of like I'm the guy. Yeah, 294 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to put it like that, 295 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: but but yes, there's definitely something to that. I mean, 296 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: I remember, give me times at Heines and Plex were 297 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: in my ear. I mean it was, you know, you 298 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 3: getting young guys like. 299 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: Heines and Plex were in the media's ear all the time. 300 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: They always bitched about not getting the ball. I remember 301 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: the one time, I think, just giving him a chance. 302 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: I remember when Plex was on the cover of USA 303 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: Today one week and it chafed Hines so bad that 304 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: he went on like a media tear for a week, 305 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: saying that he was the leader. 306 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: Of the whiteouts. 307 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: And that's when we kept hearing like, well, you know, 308 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: as the leader of the whiteouts, And then we all 309 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: started to refer to ourselves as the leader the wideouts because. 310 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: He was saying it so often. We're like, we know 311 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: you're the leader of your Hines Ward. We know that. 312 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: Again, So DK is going to be able to be 313 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: in anybody's ear. And just I mean, I think I 314 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: think DK is gonna want to bounce back here anyway. 315 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 3: So I think regardless who was his his quarterback. You're 316 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna see, you know, different things this year. 317 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: I know, bench the Sines came up. I gotta ask 318 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: you one thing about him. You know he's coaching Arizona 319 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: State now wide receivers. Yeah, and there's a narrative in 320 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: the draft. Arizona State has a great wide receiver available, 321 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: Jordan Tyson, And people say, well, he was coached by 322 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: Hines Ward. He's gonna know how to be a pro 323 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: and he'll he'll play as Hines. 324 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: Did you buy that? 325 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: Is that? 326 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: Is that a reasonable? 327 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: I would say this, I would say nobody can be 328 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: hines Ward. Okay, let's start there. Because of Hines is 329 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: like the way he played the game. People just don't 330 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: play it like that anymore. I mean you I compare 331 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: was aman Ros Saint Brown, like he's got a little 332 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: Hines in him, right, a little bit of dirty, little nasty, 333 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: little tough. But but those guys are a diet like 334 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: they just don't come around anymore. That being said, I 335 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: definitely think there's something to him coaching this guy, this 336 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 3: young man from Arizona State. And if it got if 337 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: it happened like Heines is going to be in his 338 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: ear like, this is this is what's expected of you 339 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, this is how it's so. I definitely so 340 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 3: I think there is something to that. But I don't 341 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: think he can be hines Ward in the sense of 342 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: what Heines did. But I definitely think there's something where 343 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: he can kind of, you know, influence him and let 344 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: him know what's expected here in Pittsburgh. 345 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: Ben, your alma mater is undefeated in hoops thirty and 346 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: OHO and Bruce Pearl thinks you guys couldn't finish second 347 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: to last in a powerful conference. 348 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: What do you make of that? 349 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: When he when people are disrespecting the RedHawks. 350 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 3: Bruce, who I'm joking? No, you know what that's kind 351 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: of I mean, listen, that's that's the mac, that's the 352 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: that's the mo of Mid American stuff. People are always 353 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: look down on us. He might be right, maybe we couldn't, 354 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: but you know what, we're thirty and oh we're about 355 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: and we're gonna beat up on the Bobcats on Friday, 356 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: the oh you Bobcats on Friday to have a perfect season, 357 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: and we might lose in the first round of the tournament. 358 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: Who knows, but it doesn't matter because we're gonna go 359 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: out defeated and we might go on a run. So hey, Bruce, 360 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: stop Hayton. Yeah, I appreciate all right. 361 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: Last thing for you, Ben, that NFL Players Association report 362 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: card came out kind of to just trash the Steelers, 363 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: and when you were playing, they still had only five toilets, 364 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: right for the seventy of you guys, Like five? 365 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: Was that ever an issue? Was there a line of people? 366 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: No there, you know there's there's Yeah, you've got five there, 367 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: plus you got five like pooper behind you. Plus you 368 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: got like there's like four other bathrooms, like everyone knew 369 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: where to go. Like I never I never could play. 370 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: I will say this, I set left on the show. 371 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: I think the issue is and maybe again here we 372 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: go talk about the MAC when I came from Miami, 373 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: Like going to Pittsburgh was an upgrade in terms of 374 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: locker room, in terms of weight room. Some man's coming 375 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: from these big schools. I can understand why they think 376 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: it's a downgrade because they're coming from these programs that 377 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: donors are given tens of millions of dollars and they 378 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: come from these doesn't Clemson like have a slide from 379 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: like there. I mean, like, think about some of the 380 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: stuff these guys come from. Anything's gonna be a down grade. Yeah, 381 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: so you know, I just say I'd rather, I'd rather 382 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: feel like family and see my owner every day and 383 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: feel like he appreciates me and see him after every 384 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: game and have him shake my hand. That means more 385 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: to me than having six six yearnals. 386 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: Than to have a private dump. 387 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: How'd you decide who used the bucket at halftime at 388 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: Miami Ohio? 389 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: It was tough. It was tough. You know, a lot 390 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: of guys around, a lot of guys around the woods 391 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: behind the trees. 392 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 393 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: You know. 394 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: The other fun fact I read the other day, what 395 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: what you didn't start a quarterback? 396 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: Tell senior year of high school? 397 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: Correct? Right right? 398 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: What was your statline your senior year of high school? 399 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: Oh? Like like over four thousand yards fifty some touchdowns? 400 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Wow? 401 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: In I had eight in one game though, So it 402 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 3: was fun. 403 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: Good thing the coach didn't have another kid. 404 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: Gold jacket? Future? Where Ben Roethlisberger with us this morning? 405 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: Hey man, thanks for calling in and make sure you 406 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: listen to the Football and Podcast with Ben Roethlisberger. 407 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: Oh he didn't even Thanks for arguing with him. 408 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Mike, he didn't even make a joke about you having 409 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: a podcast that's growth. 410 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 4: Today, all right, But I haven't been audit yet, by 411 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: the way. 412 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, you got to get pursued on that. 413 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: That you guys, that would be a great podcast. 414 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: It would well, it would just be us arguing, me 415 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 3: talking about talking about him all the time, and then 416 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: him talking a bad about me, and then no one 417 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 3: would watch it except for his family. 418 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you people would love that. All right, man, 419 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: Thanks for making time for Ben Roethlisberger. Were you here 420 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: this morning on the DVE Morning Show.