1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: As part of our non stop coverage of the NFL, 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Your home for the twelfth Man proudly presents former Seahawks 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: head coach and Super Bowl champion Mike Holmgren, brought to 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: you by Toyota of Kirkland. The championship team at Toyota 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: of Kirkland does all the little things that exceed your expectations, 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: and that's what makes Toyota of Kirkland so special. And 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: by R and R Foundation specialist serving Western Washington for 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: over twenty years now from the five twenty bar and 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Grail in Bellevue, Mike Holmgrid with Softie and Ditch. 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: All right, big thanks for the five twenty bar and 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: ground Bellevue. 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: We are not there. 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: I kind of wish we were there, to be honest 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: with you, phenomenal spot. Two reasons why I wish I 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: was there. Number One, I'd be sipping on a cocktail 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: enjoying some steak bites. And number two, that would mean 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Hugh that Mike Holmgren would be sitting right across from me. 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: But I think it's in Mike's contract. He only has 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: to see my face a certain number of times per year, 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: and we've already exceeded that, so he's joining us right 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: now on the phone. Mike at Softy. Hugh Millan is 22 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: obviously here as well. First of all, before we talk 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: some football with you, man, we just had the new 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: Seahawks offensive coordinator coach on the air with US. Brian 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: Florey was with us last segment. Talked a lot about 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: a lot of things. We want to get your thoughts 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: on this coming sale of the Seahawks. We're going to 28 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: get your take on that. But we need to congratulate 29 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: you and Kathy. I was announced a couple days ago 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: that you two are the twenty twenty six recipients of 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: the Paul Allen Humanitarian Award for your significant off the 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: field contributions, and that will be announced at the Sports 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: Star banquet here coming up in March. So from all 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: of us, man to you and Kathy, congratulations on the award. 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: How about that? 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate it very much. I mean I'm kind 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: of humbled by it. You guys know Kathy and she's 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: a pretty good humanitarian, so I'm happy for her. But 39 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 4: thank you very much. Appreciate that. And I want to 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 4: say before we going in further too, I was sorry 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: I had to miss Hughes's special day the other day. Yeah, 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: you know, he certainly deserves to be in in that 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: Hall of fame. And I would have been there if 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: I could. 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: But congratulations you, thank you, Mike, and I I appreciated 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 5: the nice words that you expressed in texting, So it 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 5: was nice. I know you were there in spirit and 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 5: and I'm really uh tickled for you and Kathy. And 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 5: maybe just if you can, like like what can you 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 5: tell an anecdote or a moment when you know something 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 5: happened along these humanitarian efforts where you got kind of 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: that warm feeling that just kind of pervaded you. You 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 5: made the back hair on the back of your next 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 5: stand up and you just said, you know, this is 55 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 5: really cool. 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 3: This is quite. 57 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 5: An honor to be able to make a difference. 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: Is there? 59 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: Do you have a story for us in that regard? 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 4: Well, one quick one, I I uh, there's a lot 61 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: of story. Is because we've been involved with Medical Teams 62 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: International for a long time, as was Zorn and then 63 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: Assle back after me, and we always had a Seahawk presence. 64 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: But they asked me at one of those and I 65 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: think Dave you went with us once they at the 66 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: auction at the baseball stadium, and they asked me to 67 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 4: do the ask, the big ask at the end of 68 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: the night. And I had just gone with Kathy to 69 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: on a mission's trip to Wahaka to put in concrete 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: floors for people that have nothing. And it was hotter 71 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: than all blazes and down there, and I told the 72 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: story and I started talking about we were putting in 73 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: the floor, and then just out of the blue, a 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: young lady from the group brought me a bottle of water. 75 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: She had lived there, She had nothing, and probably that 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: bottle of water cost her half a year's salary, I 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: don't know. But I started telling this and then all 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: of a sudden, I don't know if you guys have 79 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: run into this, all of a sudden it kind of 80 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 4: came over me and I couldn't talk, and I thought, gee, 81 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to cry here. Yeah, you know, when I 82 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: started my ass start getting water, I'm going here goes 83 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: my image. I mean, this is shot, you know. And 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 4: then I kind of came through with it, and I 85 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 4: just said, you know, let's help these folks. It makes 86 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 4: you feel better. It makes you feel good if you 87 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: can do something for people that don't have much and 88 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 4: that night it was unanimous and it was the largest, 89 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: you know, contribution put forth by that group ever. And 90 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: just that one episode there taught me a lot and 91 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: I'll never forget it. 92 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you guys deserve it, man, I mean, there's 93 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: a ton of stories like that with you and Kathy. 94 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: I got to tell you, this is kind of a 95 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: full circle bull but for me because if you were 96 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: have told me back and I was it ninety nine 97 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: or two thousand when I was doing the radio show 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: you from the back of the end zone at Old 99 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Northwest College. Here comes a big, imposing Mike Holmgren screaming 100 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: at me like a freight train, telling me to keep 101 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: my voice down during practice that at one point we'd 102 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: be talking about a humanitarian award for that guy. I'm 103 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: not sure on that exact moment I have what about that? 104 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 3: You shut up? 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 6: I don't remember that. 106 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 4: I don't remember. 107 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: You don't you don't remember that I do, so I 108 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: never thought humanitarian award during that exact moment. But you 109 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: guys deserve it, there's no question about it. And looking 110 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: forward to you getting the award in March. But Mike, 111 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: let me ask you, because we just had Brian Florey 112 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: on the radio show, the brand new Seahawk offensive coordinator 113 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: after seven years with the forty nine ers. 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: I thought he was great. You missed it. 115 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: Here it again coming up tonight at six twenty's. He's 116 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: never called plays though before in the NFL. And look, 117 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: this is a football team that's trying to go back 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 2: to back. This is not a project, this is not 119 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 2: a developing situation. This is a ready made Super Bowl 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: championship football team looking to win consecutive titles. And they're 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: handing the reins over to a guy who's never called plays. 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: Does that make you nervous a bit? 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 4: Well, it makes you think just a little bit. I 124 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: think I trust Mike McDonald, you know. And when when 125 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: he hired Kubiak, we we we had talked prior to 126 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: the hire about that and I and it was where 127 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: that worked out pretty well. So I believe he knows 128 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 4: what he wants and he knows, uh the right guy 129 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: to do it. That's my feeling having said that, And 130 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 4: he knows this better than anybody calling plays during the 131 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: game when it's stressful and you know, it's all sorts 132 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 4: of stuff were happening. It just it's it's a if 133 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: you haven't done up before, the first time you do 134 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: it, it gets a little. It gets a little Harry, It 135 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: really does. And you grow and you learn to do 136 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 4: things a different way. And so I think he's guys 137 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: work cut out for him. But you know, if, as 138 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 4: I said, if Mike McDonald hired him, then I believe 139 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: in him. 140 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: Mike, you said it got a little harry. Uh when 141 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: when you were a first time play caller. I believe 142 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: that took place while you were what in San Francisco, 143 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: at least from an NFL perspective, Do you remember just 144 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: calling something so ridiculous that you just asked yourself like, Man, 145 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm I'm trying to call you know, you know, post 146 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: route here and instead I ordered a pizza or whatever. 147 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: Like do you remember having a moment where you just 148 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: kind of figured, like, what the heck am I doing here? 149 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 4: Well? I think it happens to everybody, particularly if the 150 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: play doesn't work, usually after the fact. Why I call 151 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: that that that was no good? But I remember when 152 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: when I was not the coordinator yet and Bill Walsh 153 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: was still the coach, but we didn't know he was. 154 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: He was getting out after the playoffs we entered the playoffs. 155 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: His last year, we wound up winning the Super Bowl. 156 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 4: But he called me in. He goes, like, I think 157 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: you start handling the plays, you start calling the game. 158 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: I go, and when you worked for Bill, you know 159 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: that was one of the things you admired about him, 160 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: and he was pretty good at it. And then I said, coach. 161 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: He goes, no, no, no. If if there's something that I 162 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: want to change, I'll change it, but otherwise it's yours. 163 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 4: And so that thing through the playoffs and including the 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: championship game in Chicago. It kind of got my feet wet, 165 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 4: and I made some mistakes, but the team was good 166 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 4: enough that we won anyway. But it did teach me 167 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: a lot of stuff on how to handle that type 168 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: of thing. And uh, and then when I was the 169 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: next year, I was the coordinator, and then you know, 170 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: it helps to have good quarterbacks, good running backs, all 171 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: that stuff. All that stuff helps well. 172 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: It also helps have Mike Holmgren. 173 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 5: And I don't want to make you blessed, but I've 174 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 5: read Bill Waltsh's biography and there's a whole at least 175 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 5: a whole chapter and devoted to you about when when 176 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 5: he hired you. I'm paraphrasing, he says, he Mike Holman 177 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 5: was so demonstrably the best Candida available was there was 178 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 5: nobody close so so so you were able to team 179 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: with him. But you know, Mike, there's that that quote 180 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 5: from Mike Tyson. You know, everybody's got a plan until 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 5: you get hit in the mouth, right, And so you, 182 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: as a play caller, you go in. And I thought 183 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: Florrie had a very good comment today. He said, Hey, 184 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 5: regarding being a first time play caller, he said, look, 185 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: what I'm gonna be doing is I'm gonna be I'm 186 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 5: not just you know, deciding the plays on the on 187 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 5: the sideline. Of course, I'm anticipating, you know, all through 188 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 5: the week, I'm anticipating the different adjustments I might be 189 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 5: asked to make. And then it's just a case of 190 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 5: in real time, I'm gonna process that and I'm gonna 191 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go exactly how I'd always planned. 192 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 193 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 5: My question then to you would be how often that's 194 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 5: that's I'm sure that was your your thought as well, 195 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 5: But there has to be sometime where an adjustment happens 196 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: on the field that you didn't prepare for during the week, 197 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: and you and and in fact you are having to 198 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: to uh to determine how are you going to handle 199 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 5: this right now because that's something that you did not 200 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 5: planned for. Is that Is that fair to say? Or 201 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: or would you say, hey, I was always ready for 202 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 5: everything that happened. 203 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 4: I think I'd like to say that, but I can't 204 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: say it. You know, no, you you're right. I mean, 205 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: it's just you know, things happen in the game, and 206 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: you know, you played quarterback, and you know, you know, 207 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 4: you think it's going to be this coverage, is this play? 208 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: It's not that play? Well, you know what are we doing? 209 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: And it's important to stay focused, and you know the 210 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: thing is, and I did this. I hope he does 211 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 4: it that you don't. You don't need a lot of 212 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 4: people in your ear during that time. And I didn't 213 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: want anyone talking to me. You know. The only one 214 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: that talked to me was Gil Haskell, and he had 215 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 4: permission to do that, you know, because everyone has opinions. 216 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: They're looking at it. There are other good coaches, they're 217 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: bright guys up in the booth. They're seeing stuff. But 218 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: it's my job to process it, right, or the play 219 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: caller's job right to process it, and so you know 220 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 4: it's a challenge. But I'll tell you what you know. 221 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: I've told you guys this before. With all the craziness 222 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: that goes on and with the pres and everything when 223 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: you're the head coach, I kind of have some fun 224 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: doing this. So I like to call the place. Yeah, 225 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 4: that was fun. 226 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the way you put that. That Gil 227 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: ahead permission to talk to you. Can you imagine asking somebody, Hey, 228 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: I need you to run something by Mike. I'm sorry, man, 229 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't have permission to talk to him. You're gonna 230 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: have to talk to somebody else. Oh god, Well, coach Flory, 231 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: we mentioned was on with us, Mike, and you have 232 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: told me for years and years and years, and Hugh, 233 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: I asked you a lot over the season. You know, 234 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 2: how do you fix the red zone problems? You said, look, man, 235 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: just be more aggressive, right, And we got some numbers 236 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: here in a second that we're going to get to 237 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: in a minute. But Mike, you would tell me all 238 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: the time, every play inside the twenty is a throw 239 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: to the end zone, right, Because you got your field goal. 240 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: You got your thirty seven thirty eight yard field goal. 241 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: We asked Brian Flory I actually mentioned your philosophy when 242 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: Brian was on the air. This is what he's talked 243 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: about when he talked about his philosophy and turning field 244 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: goals in the touchdowns inside the twenty. 245 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: Check it out to me. 246 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 7: The red zone is about maximizing efficiency, obviously, like the 247 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 7: best way to scoring the red zone is to run 248 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 7: it in. So we're going to look for opportunities to 249 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 7: do that at all costs. But ultimately, you know, when 250 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 7: you get the third down, when you get the longer 251 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 7: yardages to get to the goal line, you know you 252 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 7: do have to throw the football. And it's really just 253 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 7: making sure Sam has plays that he's comfortable executing. 254 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: Okay, so the best way to maximize it is to 255 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: run it in. 256 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: And maybe he meant, you know what, we're not going 257 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: to make any mistakes, We're not going to throw any 258 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: picks whatever, blah blah blah. I guess if Mike, would 259 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: you agree with that philosophy on the running portion of 260 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: what he said there? And then number two, if not, 261 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: how come more coaches don't adopt your attitude? 262 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you've got your. 263 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: Free thirty seven thirty eight yard field goal, let's go 264 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: for the gold. 265 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: And get this thing in the end zone. 266 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't agree with it, but 267 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 4: it seemed to me that when he was talking, you 268 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 4: guys were there so that you know, running when you 269 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: need to run. It's say you throw a pass and 270 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 4: it's second and one from get get get another set 271 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: of downs, then run it. You know, I get that. 272 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: But if you're there, then first down, don't run on 273 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 4: first down. Throw for the end zone. Throw for the 274 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: you already have the field, go in your pocket. You 275 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: already have three points, right, so you have design and 276 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: the red zone passes. You design our passes to score 277 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 4: passes into the end zone, right, you know, you know, 278 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 4: defenses are squeezed, Everything squee everything's different down there. So again, 279 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: and listen, I'm saying this because the red zone was 280 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: my baby, you know, and I used to you know, 281 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 4: that was the thing. So but no, I would I 282 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 4: would respectfully disagree with that if that's what he meant 283 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: by saying that. I think you got to take your 284 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: shots there, Mike. 285 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 5: There's some numbers going back last year. The NFL. Actually 286 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 5: you're getting their staff portal. They actually have a filter 287 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 5: that is quote thrown to end zone. So if we 288 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 5: select that filter. So through week eleven, the Seahawks were 289 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 5: twenty fifth in the league in red zone throws to 290 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 5: the end zone. By the way, the Rams were number 291 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 5: one throughout every single week. I'm about to say the 292 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 5: Rams are were always number one. Through week thirteen they 293 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 5: were twenty second. They started to get better. Now they 294 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: ended the season at eighteenth, so they were getting better 295 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 5: as the season went along. In the playoffs they the 296 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: regular season. So they ended eighteenth for the regular season, 297 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 5: and that was one point seven to five per game. 298 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: They they increased that by thirty three percent to two 299 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 5: point three to three a game. I know there's a 300 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 5: lot of numbers, but the point is that what kind 301 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 5: of what you and I were saying is like they 302 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 5: have to get more aggressive. You know, they're only averaging 303 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 5: two point two yards rush attempt on first and ten. 304 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 5: Like they got to stop throwing these stick routes. Uh, 305 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 5: you know in Omaha routes Dave these five yard completions. 306 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 5: They got to start, you know, taking shots at the 307 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 5: end zone. 308 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 309 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: That's something that's an opinion Mike and I share. The 310 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 5: numbers are theirs. I laid it out Mike and and 311 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 5: they actually did do that. They got a lot more 312 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 5: aggressive at throwing in the end zone. I mean you 313 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 5: just think of the forty nine er game and and 314 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 5: the Ram game them and they were getting down the 315 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 5: red zone and they were immediately throwing shots to the 316 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 5: end zone. 317 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 4: Right. I think you know what might play into this 318 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: just a little bit. If you if you have the 319 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: best defense in football, right, and you're so confident in 320 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: the your your ability to stop the other team, then 321 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 4: perhaps you take you look at the red zone and 322 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: your chances and how aggressive you are, maybe you look 323 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 4: at it a little differently, you know, maybe, but look 324 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 4: at my job as a coordinator. Offensive coordinator, it's your 325 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: job to score points, right, that's your job, right and 326 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: get your team into the end zone. So that's how 327 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: we did it. That's how I learned, That's how the 328 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: forty nine ers, That's how we did it. Everyone's I 329 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: respect everyone's opinion on that. It's just there are different 330 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 4: ways to do it. I think. 331 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, Mike, listen, man, great stuff, thanks for doing this 332 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: and jumping on with us. You know what's funny, We've 333 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: been here for twenty minutes and we haven't yet talked 334 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: about maybe the biggest story of the week involving Seahawk Football, 335 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: which is the team is for sale. I god right, 336 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you got thirty years of an Allen family 337 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: member running this thing. The numbers are ridiculous. Ever since 338 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: then Allan, since Paul bought the team took over, the 339 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: franchise has skyrocketed. So I mean, you tell me, how 340 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: concerned are you that, for lack of a better question, 341 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: a new owner is going to come in here and 342 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: just muck this whole thing up. 343 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I agree with you. Paul Allen 344 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: was a great man to work for, and I met 345 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 4: Jody a couple of times, but she apparent he just 346 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: kept kept it going with the current team. But my 347 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 4: concern is, and I saw it in the league. I 348 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: saw it. You guys have seen it. You have a 349 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 4: team sold, a new owner comes in, and the new 350 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: owner made a zillion dollars, you know, building refrigerators or something, 351 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: and so you know then but then he comes in 352 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 4: and he's the new owner of a football team. So 353 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 4: he then comes in and wants to put his imprint 354 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,239 Speaker 4: on it and and maybe make insert himself in the 355 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: football decisions right away. And sometimes I think most of 356 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 4: the time that does not work. You know, come in, 357 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 4: hire somebody, trust him, give him the resources he needs, 358 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: and then just sit back and enjoy it. Then it's 359 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 4: all of a sudden that it's not working, then you 360 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: have to make a decision. But but you know, you 361 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: see it with different ownerships in the league. So I 362 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: pray that though the right people come in and then 363 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: and just trust who they have. You know, Cleveland, you 364 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: know when when when the you know, the new art 365 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 4: came in and he wanted to change everything, so he 366 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 4: let everyone go that was in there, and then he 367 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 4: did it. The second year did the same thing. Then 368 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: he did it, the third year, did the same thing. 369 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 4: So it's, uh, you gotta be careful. 370 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 5: I apologize interrupting you there. 371 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: Mike. 372 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 5: You've always been a Trevor treasure trove of of of stories. 373 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 5: And I'm just curious now that we're kind of reflecting 374 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 5: on the Allen regime. If as it were when you 375 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: were the head coach of the Packers, and you know, 376 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 5: you could have gone anywhere you had a face to 377 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 5: face meeting with Paul Allen, was it not as his 378 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 5: home in in uh and Mercer Island and you guys 379 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 5: were talking music because he loves music so much, and 380 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 5: maybe just kind of relate back to that story and 381 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: what you saw and what you needed to see from him, 382 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 5: and and and the message you needed to hear from 383 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 5: him to convince you that you wanted to be the 384 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 5: head coach of the Sea Seahawks. Just kind of take 385 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 5: us into that room. And where it was in your 386 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 5: your initial meeting with Paul. 387 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: Allen, Well, you know, it was at his home in 388 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 4: Arstra Allen, which is quite a quite a place. You know, 389 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 4: they have a basketball court that looks like the Boston Garden. 390 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 4: He's got a museum that we went to see movies 391 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: at a theater in his house, and oh, it's just different. 392 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 4: So the first thing that I felt when I talked 393 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 4: to him, first of all, he's very sincere, very sincere, 394 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: and really wanted wanted me to be there because I 395 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: had had three three teams lined up, the Eagles and 396 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 4: then the Baltimore that week, and so clearly he gave 397 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 4: me that impression. So my impression him is I just, 398 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: you know, I was overjoyed to have the opportunity. Then 399 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 4: we had dinner at his home and it was I 400 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 4: sat next to him at the end of the table 401 00:19:58,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 4: Kathy was there that a lot of people were in there, 402 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: I said, next to him, and it was a big, 403 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 4: fancy French dinner. And I said to him, what is 404 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 4: this exactly? There was some dish. I didn't know even 405 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: know what it was. He goes, I don't know, I 406 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 4: don't know. I thought maybe you'd like it. I said, oh, 407 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: I do, I know, I do, I really like it. 408 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: I just don't know what it is. You should have 409 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 4: been sweetish, Yeah, so the real So I got a 410 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 4: little taste of of who he was and what he was. 411 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: And I remember going to meetings too, and he goes, Okay, Mike, 412 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: how much you're gonna cost me? Now, how much is 413 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: this going to cost me? Now? You know? And at 414 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 4: the end but at the end of the day, at 415 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 4: the end of the meeting, okay, okay. 416 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: He didn't even know what they were serving. Can I 417 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: got a whopper? For God's sakes? 418 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: No, I mean we were, yeah, we're all we're more 419 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: kind of cheeseburger guys. But it was it was anyway. 420 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 4: It just he was a real, per surreal guy and 421 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: for all he had accomplished, yep, he really wanted the 422 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: best for the football team. 423 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: And I knew that, no doubt. 424 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: Well, Mike, congrats again to you and Kathy. I'm the 425 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: Humanitarian Award has to mean a little something special because 426 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: it's named after Paul Allen. Go get that in a 427 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: ceremony at the Sports Star Banquet in about a month 428 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 2: from now in March. So enjoy it. You've earned it, 429 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: you deserve it. Man, great stuff, and we'll talk sooner, right. 430 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 4: Thanks, guys, good talking, Thanks Mike. 431 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: All right, thank Mike. Hombre with us. We're gonna break. 432 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: Cal Raley was on the Morning Show today the man 433 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: that should have won the MVP sixty home runs. Cal 434 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: Rally that guy. Unless you're confused as to which Kyle 435 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: Rowley I was talking about. We'll hear a snippet of 436 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: that from Chuck and Buck next on ninety three three 437 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: KJRFM from. 438 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 8: The R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back 439 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 8: to Softie and Dick on your Home for the Huskies, 440 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 8: Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point 441 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 8: three kJ r FM. 442 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: Alrighty, if you missed it, there's a lot of magic 443 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: going on baby on the Morning show this week. Uh Logan, Gilbert, 444 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: Bryce Miller, together Jerry Depoto, Dan Wilson, John Stanton, Brendon 445 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: Donovan among the guests that Chuck and Buck have had 446 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 2: on How about cal Riley Man the Big Dumper, sitting 447 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: down with Chuck and Buck this morning from Peoria, Arizona. 448 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 9: How Rolly joining us here on Chuck and Buck, How are. 449 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 10: You doing great soil? Honored to be on here twice 450 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 10: and twice and was a listening a month? 451 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, you came on to talk about the Super Bowls. 452 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 11: Did you think you were going to get out of 453 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 11: this one? 454 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 6: Because yeah, I thought that was my one for the year. 455 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 11: No, No, I warned you. 456 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 6: I warned you. 457 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 9: I tried not to harass you this week. I just 458 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 9: kind of figured you knew that we were going to 459 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 9: want to have you on, and so you'd come to 460 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 9: us when the time was right. 461 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 6: It was, it was, it was inevitable to be to 462 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 6: be honest. 463 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 11: It is well, you know, there is a way that 464 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 11: you could have probably avoided this if you didn't turn 465 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 11: into a absolute superstar by hitting sixty dingers. Now, I 466 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 11: don't think you should go back and try to redact 467 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 11: that from history, because I. 468 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 6: Mean, it's it's we'll make it. We're okay. With that good. 469 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 11: How is everything feeling at this point, just kind of 470 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 11: getting back in with the groove with all the guys. 471 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's good. My body feels good, strong, I feel 472 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 10: like I'm in a good spot. 473 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 6: Uh. 474 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 10: You know, same thing every off season getting you know, 475 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 10: you're starting, uh and you you know, you work your 476 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 10: way slowly, lifting, running, conditioning, uh, stretching, doing the whole 477 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 10: thing and just trying to get your body ready incorporating 478 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 10: baseball and and I feel good. Arm feels good, swing 479 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 10: feels good. I've gotten some live abs in, which is good. 480 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 7: You know. 481 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 10: I had to start obviously a little early for the WBC, 482 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 10: so started about a week or two earlier with everything 483 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 10: just to make sure that my body was gonna be 484 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 10: ready for that. And we're on a good, good ramp 485 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 10: process right now. 486 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 9: So how excited are you for that part of your 487 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 9: twenty twenty six to represent America and play for your 488 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 9: team USA in this tournament coming up. 489 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm very excited. 490 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 10: I mean, anytime you get to put you know, your 491 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 10: country across your chest, USA, uh, you know, you feel 492 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 10: feel patriotic and get to do something that I've never 493 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 10: done before, and they'll be amazing and it's something bigger 494 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 10: than just you know, yourself or or your team or 495 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 10: whatever it is. It's it's a whole country thing. So 496 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 10: it's and it's makes me very proud, and I'm looking 497 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 10: forward to trying to win the whole thing as well 498 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 10: as getting to be in a locker room with so 499 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 10: many great talented players. 500 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 9: What about facing Mariner pitchers as a hitter. 501 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 10: I know it's funny. Maybe Muno's Bizaro. Yeah, brash, wasn't it. 502 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 10: He did back out. I feel like I would know 503 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 10: him pretty well. Yeah, you know, knowing him and then 504 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 10: executing off of them as a whole different animals. 505 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 6: So they're pretty good. They're tough, tough to hit. 506 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 11: Yeah, is there any part of you that's I mean 507 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 11: trying to hook you up with, Hey, here's a gift 508 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 11: card I don't know, Applebee's or something so that you give, 509 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 11: Like is cam Zone asking that you're gonna let me 510 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 11: know what's coming. 511 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 6: I'm more of a chiliess guy. Chili Okay, there's no 512 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 6: Chili's up in this area. 513 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 4: No. 514 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 6: Let the people know. Though. 515 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 9: If you want your baby back, baby back, baby. 516 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 6: Back, I love a good two for twenty deals. 517 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 11: You'd be talking to him when you're in the when 518 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 11: they're in the box, I go, here comes heater. I 519 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 11: wouldn't trust me. 520 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 6: No. 521 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 10: I love messing with guys, especially in spring training because 522 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 10: it's all your buddies and stuff, and you're like, oh man, 523 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 10: the fastal's got to be coming here, right, or you 524 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 10: double cross him. You're like, there's no way, why would 525 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 10: he shake to that bitch? And you get him, get 526 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 10: him thinking in their head and that's great. 527 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 9: They're just like shut up, like, well, what how the 528 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 9: pictures look this year? Anybody's standing out to you at 529 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 9: this point? Or is it just business as usual? You're 530 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 9: so familiar with catching your especially your starters, that I 531 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 9: mean it's just like waking up and eating breakfast. 532 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I've got to know these guys really well. 533 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 10: I mean some of these guys have been catching for 534 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 10: the whole time I've been here. I mean, somebody mentions it. 535 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 6: I think it's like. 536 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 10: Eight six six to eight spring trainings I've been in 537 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 10: now and I've been catching, So it's kind of Crazy've 538 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 10: been catching some of these guys that long. So you know, 539 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 10: and I know these guys really well. They're they're doing 540 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 10: everything they need to do. Everybody looks good. I mean, 541 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 10: you know, we're just trying to get everybody healthy, you know, 542 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 10: healthy out of spring. 543 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 6: Get your reps in, do what you need to do. 544 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 6: We already know. 545 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 10: What each of these guys are capable of, So it's 546 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 10: really just about going out there, you know, getting the 547 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 10: innings that they need, getting it under their belt, getting 548 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 10: acclimated to the season, getting that consistent, those consistent reps in, 549 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 10: and taking that into. 550 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 6: A full full one sixty two. 551 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 10: And like I said, from there, I mean, you know 552 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 10: you're gonna see some small tweaks that they're probably adding. 553 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 6: You know, each picture says there's there is one, there. 554 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 9: Is one major difference. We are all producing offspring. Uh 555 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 9: So I mean, how are you gonna keep how are 556 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 9: you gonna keep Logan on task? When he's thinking about 557 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 9: you know, poopy diapers and what have you. 558 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 6: Someone tells me that he's not changing any diapers. Yeah, 559 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 6: he's price said too. 560 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 10: I said, I think I've changed more diapers in my 561 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 10: day than you have for my little brother when he 562 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 10: was growing up. So I think his wife is a 563 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 10: saint Aveley. And and you know, something tells me that 564 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 10: she is handling a lot of the loads. 565 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, and that's good with you. That's probably 566 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: the wise choice. 567 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 10: The Hey, if he's you know, if he's throwing the ball, 568 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 10: well then we won't argue with it. 569 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 9: What do you think twenty twenty six brings to the 570 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 9: for the Seattle Mariners and cal Rawley. 571 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, we've you know, been asked this question a few times, 572 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 10: and you know, I don't think we're scared to say 573 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 10: World Series. 574 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 6: We're not. 575 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 10: I think in the past there's been there's been this 576 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 10: perception of you know, we're young, we're we're hungry, we 577 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 10: want you know, we want to prove ourselves and and 578 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 10: you know, not that we did per se last year, 579 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 10: but you know, we we made it too close to 580 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 10: the end, and you know, it's it's uh, it's commendable, 581 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 10: but obviously that's not what we want to do. And 582 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 10: I think after leaving last year with a bad taste 583 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 10: in our mouth, you know, guys, guys aren't afraid to 584 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 10: say we want to win the World Series. We want 585 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 10: to you know, get to the top of that mountain. 586 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 10: And and you know it's something that you just gotta 587 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 10: start putting out in the universe. It's one of those 588 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 10: things where it's it's time time to take that step 589 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 10: forward and and to set those expectations high. And we know, 590 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 10: we know stuff. We know it's it's gonna be a 591 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 10: long season. There's gonna be a lot of ups and downs, 592 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 10: but ultimately that's the goal we're trying to get to. 593 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 10: And and uh, you know, we have to we have 594 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 10: to be able to accept that and and look at 595 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 10: it in the eye and then and then go for it. 596 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 6: So that's what we're trying to get to. 597 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: We're not gonna drop an F bomb. 598 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 6: Right, No, No, no, that's that's for the postseason. 599 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 11: Only win the whole mother fluffing thing. 600 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 6: That's right. 601 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: Well, I love that, by the way, that he's not 602 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: afraid to mention the terms world. So why not, I 603 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: mean everybody sees it, everybody feels it that that's the goal. 604 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it's the fiftieth year. 605 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: You got to Game seven of the ALCS a year ago, 606 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: and hello, it's time to take the next step thing. Yeah, 607 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: so why not just embrace it? But Hugh, I'm really 608 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: curious about cal how many games he catches this year. 609 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: I know they just brought Garver back, which I'm fine 610 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: with Garver coming back. I'm not fine with them coming 611 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: back making twelve million like he was a year ago, 612 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: but I'm fine with him coming back at a much 613 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: lower salary. Led the league in games caught in twenty three, 614 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: led the league in games caught in twenty four. This 615 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: is the American League now, you're not the majors, and 616 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: then in twenty twenty five he was down to one 617 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one. He's a much better hitter when 618 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: he's catching versus when he's dhing. 619 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: I think being a DH. 620 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: Is really really hard to do when you got to 621 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: fill time between at bats and when you were in 622 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: the rhythm of a game the way cal Rawley was 623 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: a year ago. His OPS was actually two hundred points 624 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: higher when he was a catcher versus being a DH. 625 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: So he loved being on behind the plate, love being 626 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: in a rhythm, But he also takes a freaking beating 627 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: behind the plate, right. I mean, at some point you 628 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: got to prolong this guy's career and keep the bat 629 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: in the lineup for another five or six seasons. So 630 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see how many games he actually 631 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: catches this year. 632 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: Man agreed. 633 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 5: I mean, he's twenty nine, he'll be thirty late November, 634 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,479 Speaker 5: so hopefully that would be Obviously his best birthday present 635 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: would be to be celebrating in a parade similar to 636 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 5: the way the Shock celebrated. But you know, I'm you know, 637 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 5: he mentioned that he's he started early because of the WBC, 638 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 5: And I don't know. I'd like to know where you are, Jackson, 639 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 5: where you are the text line, where are we on 640 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 5: the WBC? Is this important to us? 641 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 7: Right right? 642 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 6: You know? 643 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 5: It seems like like the obviously we're right in the 644 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 5: middle of an Olympic period fortnite as it were. I 645 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 5: can get behind it. I don't know, I've had a 646 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 5: hard time really embracing the WBC, and I mean the 647 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 5: japan one at last time. 648 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: Japan. 649 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 5: If you look at the history of the WBC, Japan 650 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 5: is has been the most dominant there. There's no there's 651 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 5: no arguing. And and yet do we does the world 652 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 5: think that Japan's better at baseball than the United States? 653 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 9: Uh? 654 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm I've got. 655 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 5: Some very very mixed feelings. And as a general rule, 656 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 5: I like international competition, as I said, the Olympics, but uh, 657 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 5: I'm not completely sold on w YBC and and cal 658 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 5: Rawley's you know he's going to be taking more innings 659 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 5: playing the WBC. 660 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: I would just say this, I'm way more concerned about 661 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 2: it for pictures than I am position players and the WBC. 662 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: And I would just also say that the WBC is 663 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: really really fun to watch. I mean, I was actually 664 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 2: shocked at how much I enjoyed watching it the last 665 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: time they played it. But I have PTSD over Drew Smiley. 666 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: Drew Smiley went to the WBC, blew his arm out 667 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: and missed the entire year for the Mariners, right, So 668 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: the pictures kind of give me a little more pause 669 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: than position players do. They got sixteen guys I think 670 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 2: in it, including cal and Julio for the Dominican, Josh 671 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: Naylor for Canada, Munoz, and Arosa Arena from Mexico. 672 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: It's really fun to watch. I really enjoy it. 673 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: But I also do think that when you're a team 674 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: trying to win a World Series, I would not be 675 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: sad if the US got bounced stirly and the guys 676 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: came home. We're going to break textimonials next. Christian k 677 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: ple Hugh is going to join us at five o'clock 678 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: from Enmontlake dot com and talk about the kind of 679 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: sudden and almost shocking firing of Jimmy Doherty as the 680 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: Seahawks OC and quarterbacks coach, What was going on behind 681 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: that At five on ninety three to three KJRFM,