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Speaker 1: He talked about the interceptions, how they're, how they're They

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Speaker 1: and find out how the Seahawks match up with the

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Speaker 1: But the one glaring thing about Seattle and the and

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Speaker 1: ever won the Super Bowl. Bottom three and turnovers in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It has never happened. The Seattle Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: most turnovers in the league with twenty eight. Now, Hugh,

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Speaker 1: I heard your conversation with Mark yesterday. I heard his

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to be I'm trying to play the

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Speaker 1: to be very, very tough to do because honestly, I

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Speaker 3: Can we can we do that and happen? And how and.

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Speaker 1: How how much do we need to cool the porridge

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Speaker 1: down to where? You know, So we're still taking shots,

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Speaker 1: but we're we're eliminating some of those turnover worthy plays.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that there's really two topics. Number one,

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Speaker 4: But you know, the turnover worthy plays I almost look

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Speaker 4: luck that's involved with turnovers. And and Sam Donald, I'll

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Speaker 4: have this for Friday as well. Ninety five percent of

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Speaker 4: his turnover worthy plays resulted in turnovers. I know for

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Speaker 4: Geno Smith had one year where he was under fifty

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Speaker 4: for this year, but for that year the Geno was

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Speaker 4: would have led the NFL and turnovers. Now, Sam Donald

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Speaker 4: at ninety five percent is you know, is possibly the

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Speaker 4: gets beat like a drum and boom, you know, beat

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Speaker 4: If if you feel it, but you're not going to

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Speaker 4: You know, how did you not sense that there was

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Speaker 4: it's a lot less reasonable. But these are the nuances

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Speaker 4: certainly understand that there's a place to get after pro athletes.

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Speaker 4: And my my view of Seattle has always been, you

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Speaker 4: generally there's something else about your personality that you know,

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Speaker 4: part I can't even conceive of how you would how

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Speaker 4: want to have a disagreement and say, hey, I'm concerned

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Speaker 4: a lot of fair question for fair responses, but to just.

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Speaker 4: I just said, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm

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Speaker 4: the dogs agree, they don't. For dogs love slinging Sammy.

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Speaker 2: Find one person, one person that.

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Speaker 4: Has a bad word to say about Sam Donald, a

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Speaker 4: human being, one person, guess what you're gonna rotten get around. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So there's some fair criticism, but the but it's the temperature,

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Speaker 4: it's the it's the venom. Like how like seriously, I

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Speaker 4: points already didn't take the seventeenth game. The guy's the

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Speaker 4: number two guy in the Pro Bowl, number one in

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Speaker 4: all of the deep passer metrics and what have you, which,

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Speaker 4: where's the venom.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's compared him to Geno Smith. We didn't see

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Speaker 1: the venom towards Geno that we see towards Sam, and

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Speaker 1: Sam has been massively better than Geno has. Now Geno's

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Speaker 1: first year with this, I think Geno's first year with

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Speaker 3: But I mean I would take Sam Donald over Gino's.

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Speaker 1: Second year with the Seahawks, and I would certainly take

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald over Gino's third year with the seas And

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Speaker 1: we never heard any of that type of victoriol that

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Speaker 5: Really and really quick. I think the vitriol is very limited.

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Speaker 5: I think like it's it's not coming from masses like

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Speaker 5: this is like ninety five five to that right point.

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Speaker 3: That not what a man.

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Speaker 1: The people who I'm to nobody likes Sam my friends,

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Speaker 1: my mom doesn't like Sam Donald.

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Speaker 3: Jackson, You're just talking the wrong people. My friends don't

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Speaker 1: I'm on these text threads and all they do is

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 3: I put my damn phone down.

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Speaker 5: Maybe they're just doing it to rile you up, because

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Speaker 5: the reality, I mean, listen, I was I was I

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Speaker 5: of Sunday and everybody is talking highest Sam.

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear one, Dad.

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Speaker 5: I think I think that maybe that's a small group,

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Speaker 5: but I think maybe it's ninety ten.

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Speaker 3: It's not nearly what Gino was.

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Speaker 5: And the reality is like for that ten percent, whatever

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Speaker 5: that number is, there's a time in place to be

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Speaker 5: go in on the turnovers. But guys, this Seahawk team

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Speaker 5: has tied for the most wins in team history.

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Speaker 3: We have the most points scored in team history.

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald is the winningest quarterback in the NFL since

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Speaker 5: what's the day.

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Speaker 3: Hugh nove twa.

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Speaker 2: Seven, Thank you, twenty twenty two, thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Like there's a time in place to be critical of him,

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Speaker 5: to ever to that ten percent, there's a time and place.

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Speaker 3: This isn't that time.

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Speaker 1: Pamiliar to your ninety ten? I mean I did put

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Speaker 1: off the Twitter poll yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I told you about it.

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Speaker 1: It's fifty to fifty whether the Seahawks are winning in

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Speaker 1: spite of Sam Donald or because of Sam Donald. So men, now,

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Speaker 1: maybe not all those people that are saying in spite

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Speaker 1: So, Hugh Jackson and I have been in a discussion

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Speaker 1: Do we want Banta Hill to come on and blow

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Speaker 3: How you doing, man?

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Speaker 7: Man, it's the strangest thing. You guys keep inviting me

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Speaker 4: that's not out of the question that he'd be a

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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. Like, you're not just losing these guys,

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Speaker 4: Brandon Ayuk, you know you're not just losing Not that

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Speaker 4: he's a Hall of Famer. But you're losing some of

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Speaker 4: the not only core players, but guys that are gonna

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Speaker 4: be wearing yellow jackets.

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Speaker 2: And yet the forty nine ers keep winning, Like, how

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Speaker 2: is that happening?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think that's why Kyle San's in the running

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Speaker 7: for Coach of the Year, Like this is probably the

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Speaker 7: best job he's ever done, better than the years that

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Speaker 7: he went to the Super Bowl, because he, I mean,

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Speaker 7: rock Perry went down. Usually when your quarterback is making

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Speaker 7: fifty million a year goes down, you just lose. And

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Speaker 7: the Niners were five and three without him, and so

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Speaker 7: they weathered the storm. And now he's healthy and pretty

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Speaker 7: much the entire offense is healthy minus Trent Williams. Brandon

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Speaker 7: Ayuk isn't coming back. And this something very interesting. Last

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Speaker 7: year you could argue on paper the Niners were better

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Speaker 7: than they are now, but they were six and eleven.

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Speaker 7: They had this devit drauma with Deebo, Samuel and Brenn

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Speaker 7: and Iyuk. Those guys are gone and they're like really

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Speaker 7: a team again for the first time since they lost

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Speaker 7: the Super Bowl, And I think that's a big reason

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Speaker 7: why they've won six in a row.

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Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned when when mac Jones came in.

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Speaker 1: I know what the national narrative was the national narrative

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Speaker 1: as wow, I'd you pay brock Purty all that money

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Speaker 1: when mac Jones can play as well as he well

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Speaker 1: as he has?

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Speaker 3: Was was that also the narrative in the Bay Area

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Speaker 3: as well?

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Speaker 7: Well? It was my narrative. I was pushing it hard.

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Speaker 7: Other people didn't want to hear it. Veryone loves brock

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Speaker 7: Purty in the Bay Area. They think he's a combination

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Speaker 7: of Joe Montana and Steve Young with a little Jesus

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Speaker 7: Christ sprinkled in. I don't know. I think he's a

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Speaker 7: good quarterback. But I mean again, if Justin Herbert goes down,

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Speaker 7: the Chargers are gonna loose. And you can't necessarily say

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Speaker 7: that about the Niners because as good as brock Purty is,

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Speaker 7: the office is all about Kyle Sanahan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so what is the film just kind of

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Speaker 4: amplify your thoughts about brock Purty because it's it's a

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Speaker 4: pretty intriguing story there that you mentioned the fifty millillion

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Speaker 4: here Shanahan. He had Trey Lance, a guy who had

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Speaker 4: as many skill set, you know, traits as a guy

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Speaker 4: could ever want, and at the top of the first round,

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Speaker 4: and yet he didn't have to see him for long

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Speaker 4: to say, no, he's not my guy.

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Speaker 2: Mister irrelevant is my guy?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Maybe he just kind of peel back the the onion

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Speaker 4: a little bit for us on why he sees Brock

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Speaker 4: Purdy as his guy, because he's he's acknowledged to be

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Speaker 4: one of the best offensive minds. The idea that that

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Speaker 4: he sees in Purdy the guy that he wants must

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Speaker 4: mean something.

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Speaker 2: What does it mean?

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Speaker 7: Well, he may not be the perfect quarterback, but he's

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Speaker 7: by far the best quarterback Kyle Sanahan had in a

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Speaker 7: decade here. I mean, he's way better than Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 7: He's not Josh Allen necessarily, but they work really well together.

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Speaker 7: He's very sincere, and he worked and and smart and

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Speaker 7: start working. I mean they're a good marriage. On top

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Speaker 7: of that, when rot when Kyle Sanahan's play doesn't work

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Speaker 7: out the way it's drawn up to, Brock Purty can

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Speaker 7: go off script and make things happen, and they don't

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Speaker 7: really need him to throw forty fifty yards down the field.

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Speaker 7: So it's a good marriage. But it doesn't necessarily mean

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Speaker 7: that Rock Purty's like gonna beat you if you take

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Speaker 7: away Christian McCaffrey, and that's what the Seahawks did Week one.

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Speaker 7: Christian McCaffrey had no impact. The last two games, He's

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Speaker 7: run for about two hundred and fifty yards and coincidentally

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Speaker 7: or not, rock Purty had accounted for ten touchdowns. So

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Speaker 7: it still comes back to stopping the run and making

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Speaker 7: the Niners one dimensional and proving that he's really worth

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Speaker 7: what they pay him.

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Speaker 1: Grant you mentioned there that brock Purty is by far

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback Kyle Shanahan has had in the last decade.

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Speaker 1: The winningest quarterback in the last three years in the

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Speaker 1: NFL was on Kyle Shanahan's roster three year two years ago.

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Speaker 3: His name is Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: What happens to forty nine or nation If brock Purty's

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Speaker 1: backup comes in, outplays him, beats the guy that the

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Speaker 1: Niners paid twenty million more a year four and steals

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Speaker 1: the one seed.

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Speaker 7: That would be pretty devastating. From an emotional standpoint. I

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Speaker 7: don't see how the Niners could really overcome. I mean,

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Speaker 7: the way you put it, it was his backup. You

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Speaker 7: never really took him seriously, You never gave him a Look,

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Speaker 7: you paid brock Party. This guy's way cheaper. And if

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Speaker 7: he beats brock Party and your team that everyone expects

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Speaker 7: to win. I mean, what did I say about you?

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Speaker 7: And the thing is he really could win because he's

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Speaker 7: just gonna be standing there. There's gonna be no pass rush.

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Speaker 7: He's got a hell of an arm. We got a

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Speaker 7: better on than Rock Party, and he's gonna have a

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Speaker 7: much easier assignment because he's not gonna be fair. He's

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Speaker 7: gonna be playing seven on seven football.

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Speaker 4: Well, what about Robert Sola and his ability to manufacture

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Speaker 4: sacks and the absence of Bosa and the ability to

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Speaker 4: get after the quarterback. There's got to be something there.

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Speaker 4: What has been the discussion of in that regard about

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Speaker 4: Sall and trying to manufacture with scheme, Well.

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Speaker 7: Sala was great, and really what he's decided to do

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Speaker 7: is not to manufacture pass rush. He's trying his best

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Speaker 7: to not give up big plays and to force you

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Speaker 7: to get into the red zone where he can maybe

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Speaker 7: you know, make a call that surprises you. I Mean,

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Speaker 7: as bad as the Niners defense was against the Bears,

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Speaker 7: we all saw it.

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Speaker 2: It was terrible.

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Speaker 7: The final player of the game. He had the call

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Speaker 7: that won it and Ben Jonson did so he's great.

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Speaker 7: He can he can trick you, he can surprise you.

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Speaker 7: But they're not trying to really rush the quarterback and

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Speaker 7: not bringing five and six. They're content to sort of

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Speaker 7: let you check it down and hope that you make mistakes.

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Speaker 7: And with Sam Donald, I mean, he does lead the

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Speaker 7: league in turnovers, so you know that's what they're going

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Speaker 7: to try to do again. They're going to try to

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Speaker 7: prevent Jackson, Smith and Jigl from getting deep and scoring

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Speaker 7: from far out and make Sam Donald x choot in

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Speaker 7: the red zone. That's what they did the first time.

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Speaker 7: That's what they're going to tuck to do again.

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Speaker 1: Last couple of minutes, the Grant Cone from S Side

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Speaker 1: down in the area, Grant Cone on Twitter coh and grants,

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Speaker 1: what's the vibe now from Niners fans? Obviously it's probably

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Speaker 1: different than it was two months ago when they were

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Speaker 1: scuffling a little bit. But now you're at twelve and four,

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Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to get the number one seed

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Speaker 1: with a with a victory. Do they feel like it's

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Speaker 1: all fixed now or do they still say, yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: just too bang up yeah, we can beat the Seahawks maybe,

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Speaker 1: but we're not going to the super Bowl because we

569
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Speaker 1: just don't have enough pieces healthy.

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Speaker 7: It's funny that was the attitude with Niner fans when

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Speaker 7: they lost to the Rams. They got trounced by the

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Speaker 7: Rams about a month and a half ago at home,

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Speaker 7: and Niner fans were like, see, that's why we didn't

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Speaker 7: make any trades at the trade deadline because it's pointless

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Speaker 7: because this hopeless. We're not going anywhere. And now they've

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Speaker 7: won six in a row, and Niner fans are talking

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Speaker 7: like seriously, like Brock Curry's the best quarterback in football,

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Speaker 7: and that their offense is unstoppable, and that Kyle Sanahan

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Speaker 7: doesn't choke and that he's a Hall of Fame coach.

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean, it's like none of that

581
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Speaker 7: stuff happened, and all of a sudden they can do

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Speaker 7: no wrong. So it's gonna I mean, that's why this

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Speaker 7: game against the Seahawks is so interesting. You lose at

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Speaker 7: home to Sam Donold, it's very sobering.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, you are painting such an awesome picture. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on, Gran, We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: My question, Thanks for having me, oh.

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Speaker 1: Man, See that that's the narrative view that we aren't

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Speaker 1: talking about here. That's a San Francisco narrative. The you

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Speaker 1: had Sam darnled and you even hear heard Grant say

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Speaker 1: brock Purty is the best quarterback by far that Kyle

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Speaker 1: Sanahan's ever had. Well, he didn't allow Sam Darnald Eve

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to be a better quarterback than brock Purty.

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Speaker 4: No, he only had one start as a forty nine er.

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Speaker 4: And I think that, uh, you, we'll obviously never know.

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Speaker 4: I wonder in his heart of hearts he probably would

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Speaker 4: say he'll still keep Purty knowing what he knows. But

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Speaker 4: it's possible that he he looks and says, well, there's

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Speaker 4: a mistake. I let him get out the door. It's

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Speaker 4: happened many many times before in the NFL. Hugh Millen's

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Speaker 4: with us until us seven o'clock tonight. We've got John

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Speaker 4: Wilner at five