1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: The last segment brought to us by shop dot Steelers 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: dot com. That's where to get it. Joining me now, 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: former Steelers quarterback got a great podcast with Trey Essex. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: You hear him on the Steelers post game show on 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: DVE with Mike Pursuiter. We walk into the program, Charlie Batch, Charlie, 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: Willie Cologne said that the Steelers don't yet have an 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: identity on offense. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: He's not sure what they do. Well, do you agree 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: with that? 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: I absolutely agree with that, And when you just look 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: at the statistics, it mirrors that because when you know 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: the way at the bottom of the league running the football, 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: they try to identify as a run for his offense 14 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: and right now that's not happening. But they're figuring out 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: ways to win. So I do agree with Willie. 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, figuring out ways to win is one thing now. 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: But you know this formation with the seven offensive lineman 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: basically and giving Rogers a lot fewer targets to work with. 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: Will that beat good teams in big games? 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: Charlie? Will it come from behind when they trail? 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: And that's the part where we're going to have to 22 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: see figure out as we move forward. Yes, the big 23 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: package is working, but it's not like DK is on 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: the field when that package is on there. They use 25 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: Ben Scronic on there. So if you're a defense you're 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: not fearing that, even though Ben Head does have some 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: catches on a year. So they're going to have to 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: figure out ways to get this going because right now 29 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: they don't. Do you know one thing, Well, unfortunately, that's 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: just what we are. 31 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: What do you like and dislike about the big package? 32 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: When you identify with that big package, you have a 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: lot of they have to be big, big personnel on 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: the field from a defensive perspective, so a lot of 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 3: times you do now have the advantage and if you 36 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: look at the numbers, I think they're about a four 37 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: yard when they have that package running the football. But 38 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: unfortunately it weakends because if you have DK on the field, 39 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: for instance, you can maybe double team him and you're 40 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: not going to use Anderson as a receiver. So that's 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: the short fall of that particular package. 42 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: Does it prohibit Rogers from being Rogers? Does he have 43 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: enough weapons? He gets protection, that's obviously a big part 44 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: of this Charlie to prevent him from getting hit, but 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: doesn't allow him to explore what he can be. 46 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he wants to do more at the line 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: of scrimmage. You know, even early on in that Minnesota game, 48 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: the first two drives didn't go the way that they 49 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: were going to hope it went. It wasn't until till 50 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: the third drive where they hit DK on that eighty 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: yard touchdown pass. So right now, because they're not as 52 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: successful on first down as minimizing the opportunities that they 53 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: can continue to sustain drives. So we have yet to 54 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 3: really see what the full arsenal of this offense is. 55 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: I just know Aaron is eager to push the ball 56 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: down the field. Unfortunately, we don't know if that's going 57 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: to happen based off the running game on what you're 58 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: going to see here. 59 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: You know what it reminds me of Charlie. 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: It reminds me of when Arians got fired as coordinator 61 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: because he didn't do enough to protect Ben. But maybe 62 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: Ben didn't do enough after that. You know, no risk, 63 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: no biscuit. Maybe if they make Rogers a bit more vulnerable, 64 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: they get more out of them. I mean it is risk, 65 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: but I mean you rep reward too. 66 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, and need I mean breaking Parrison there 67 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: when you talked about Aarons and Roethlisberger, but right now especially, 68 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: he didn't get hit as much in the Minnesota game, 69 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: but prior to that he had eighteen hits, and at 70 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: that particular point, his body is not going to be 71 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: able to sustain those hits throughout the course of the season. 72 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: As they shored up protection, those hits minimize a little 73 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: bit more in that Minnesota game. But now, what does 74 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: that look like? How are they gonna now try to 75 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: target and really attack Miles Garrett because you can't leave 76 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: me one on one with any of those tackles, So 77 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: at some point you're gonna have to demand a double 78 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: team and it's going to free up some opportunity for 79 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: someone else. So until they prove that they can pass 80 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 3: Retecht on a consistent basis, that's whenever you'll start seeing 81 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: the passes being pushed down the field more of a 82 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: Right now, they're just not doing that. 83 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: How do you feel if you're John new and Friar 84 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: move because this offense was supposed to be based around 85 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: the tight ends and not just blocking, and now they're 86 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: kind of on the pay no mind list. 87 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big, big head scratcher for me because 88 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: I really expected friar Move to benefit from John new 89 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: Smith getting here. Right now, the only person benefited is 90 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: Darnell Washington and Smith and Friarmo's numbers aren't where they are. 91 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's based off week the week, 92 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: but I really expected more from those two, and right 93 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: now they're putting up predetrian numbers and I know they're 94 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: looking to add more to this offense. 95 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: Do you think they'll eventually get away more from the 96 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: big package. I think they'll use it against Cleveland, which 97 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: I get cause you know it gives you a chance 98 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: to minimize Miles Garrett. But you know Mike Tomlin Charlie, 99 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: the more something works, the more he sticks with it, 100 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: regardless of who they're playing. 101 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's banking on the fact that defensively they're 102 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: creating those turnovers and offensively they're not turning the football over. 103 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: So do I expect to see more of that big package? 104 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 105 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: Possibly if they're calling for potential rain and if that happens, 106 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: then yeah, you're going to run the football in that 107 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 3: particular manner. But as we now look and see where 108 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: everything is at at this point, it's just my boggling 109 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: and that's why you had the bye week, and the 110 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: bye week you're supposed to do some self reflection and 111 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 3: figure out ways to break break some tendencies now coming 112 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: up this bow week? Does that happen in this particular week? 113 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: And I think that's all. We're all the things that 114 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: we're going to be paying attention to. 115 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Talking to Charlie Batch, this segment brought to us by 116 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: eighty four Lumber Dynasty partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Charlie 117 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned Miles Garrett. He's been kind of quiet for 118 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, but obviously one of the best 119 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: defensive players in football. Do you think what and Garrett 120 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: see this game as a as a rivalry game even 121 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: though they're not on the field at the same time. 122 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: No, they absolutely do. They're paying attention as a race 123 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: to what one is doing. If one gets a sack, 124 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: I promise you the other one wants to get a 125 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: sack as well, and they want to try to go 126 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: out there and be as as disruptive as possible. Right now, 127 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: Miles Garrety did miss a practice earlier in the week 128 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: with the ankle injury. What does that look like for 129 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: him coming into this game? Either way, he's going to 130 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: be ready and he's going to want to now really 131 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: set him stuff as part because for years has always 132 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: been Miles TJ who's the defensive player of the year, 133 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: and this is the first time that they ultimately get 134 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: to out shine. So who can outshine one another in 135 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: their first of two head hit battles. 136 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: Can the Cleveland defense win this game? Because I'm not 137 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: sure the Cleveland offense can. We'll talk about that unit 138 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes, but like I I don't know. 139 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the Cleveland defense is pretty pretty good, but 140 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: the Cleveland offense barely scores. 141 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's it. Even though they created the turnovers 142 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: last week against Minnesota offensively, they weren't able to capitalize 143 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: off of it defensively. Can they win this game? Yeah, 144 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: you create turnovers score on that defensive side. That's something 145 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: that you know, we don't know how that ultimately isn't 146 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: going to impact it. But when you look at I 147 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: know we're talking about the Cleveland offense and here shortly, 148 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: but that's one of those things that defensively, they have 149 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: to give the Browns offense a short field if they 150 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: feel that they can compete in this week's game. 151 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: The part what the worries me is you got Garrett 152 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: lining up on the left side, you got you got 153 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Malie Collins, who's a stud right next to him. 154 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: You got Mason Graham right next to him. 155 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: No matter how many offensive linemen you use, if you're 156 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers, that's a trio to contend with, isn't it. 157 00:06:58,920 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 158 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 5: It is. 159 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: And this going to be something that we you know, 160 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: coming into this season, we knew that was going to 161 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: be a question mark. They got better as the week 162 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: went on, but this is truly going to be their 163 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: first test, and there should be no excuse because crowd 164 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: noise is not a factor. Aaron's able to use the 165 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: snapcount as a weapon, and you're able to use some 166 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 3: shift in motions to kind of keep that defense off balanced. 167 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: So if they don't get it going this week, then 168 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: truly we don't know what this offense is going to 169 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: look like because there is no excuses right now because 170 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: you're playing in front of the home crowd. 171 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: What are your impressions that Dylan Gabriel, Cleveland's rookie quarterback. 172 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: I think he's done okay, Yeah, he's. 173 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: Done okay, but he's you know, he is a little 174 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: bit older, so from a maturation standpoint, that gives him 175 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: the advantage. So when you're a twenty five year old 176 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: first year player, then yeah, you can now hopefully the 177 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: game slows down for him. They were comfortable enough last 178 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: week obviously for him to get the start, but there 179 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: were some safe passes that were happening. He didn't truly 180 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: push the ball down the field. Now that he has 181 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: his second start, that's happening here, you want to see 182 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: that step one, step two if he's able to do 183 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: it here. So that's something that I'm gonna look forward 184 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: to seeing to see if he's able to do that. 185 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: But again, if they don't get that running game going, 186 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: there's no way that the Browns offensive coordinator is going 187 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: to turn around and put him in a situation where 188 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: they become a past first team against his defense. 189 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: I hope Ramsey can play. He's listed as questionable, Charlie. 190 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: He did practice today. I think if you have Ramsey out, 191 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: there's the Swiss army knife. You can do kind of 192 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: what Lebau used to do and just use different looks 193 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: to confuse a rookie quarterback. 194 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: Without him, I don't know about that. 195 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and This is something that really, you know, Taro 196 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: Austin hasn't had the full arsenal really all year because 197 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: whenever Joey Porter was out, Now all of a sudden 198 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: potential that Jaylen Ramsey could be out and then you'll 199 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: see Joey Porter, you'll see Brandon Echols, and again we're 200 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: not surely going to see what that whole secondary package 201 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: looks like. And that's gonna be something that, you know, really, 202 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: can Joey really hold up, because again he's coming back 203 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: from hamstring. He looked like he was ready to go, 204 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: and we're going to see whether he can continue to 205 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: carry on that first corner position as he's taking that 206 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: taking hold of whoever the road receiver number one is 207 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: for the Brown. So it's going to be something that 208 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: to see what they doing about. Because the last thing 209 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: that we remember from this defense is the miscommunication that 210 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 3: happened against Minnesota and that was the Peyton Wilson tackle 211 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: that happen. They have to clean our communication up. In 212 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: last week, they used crowd noise as an excuse. Guess 213 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: what you're playing in front of his home crowd. They're 214 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: going to be loud, so you better be on the 215 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: same accord, making sure they're playing the same defense. 216 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely correct. 217 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: I look at Cleveland playing Gabriel and Judkins are running 218 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: back too. I look at the New York Giants playing 219 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: scatter Boat running back and they go Jackson darts starting 220 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: at quarterback. The Steelers kind of stay just as they are. 221 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: They don't want to improve, They just want to be 222 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers. Does that frustrate you at all? Do I 223 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: have a point in that regard. 224 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 3: Saying when you say they want to be the Steelers, 225 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: what do you mean? 226 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,599 Speaker 1: Well, they just they just settle for you know, the veterans, 227 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: not improving, just not taking a risk to get better, 228 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: which these other teams are doing. But to be fair, 229 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: they're not as good as the Steelers in the first place. 230 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when you look back and to that point, 231 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: you know, really the days of building through the draft 232 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: over the last several years hasn't happened because they've missed 233 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: on their first rounders. And when you miss in that 234 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: particular manner, that forces you to change the mindset by 235 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: now having to add from free agency. Can they get 236 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: better movie before? That remains to be seen. We'll all 237 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: figure this thing out together, but it's going to start 238 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: with Troy Fontana's gonna start with Roderick Jones and ultimately 239 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 3: Derek Harmon to make sure at least the nucleus of 240 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 3: that front is going to be their most offensively and defensively. 241 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: So they're going to have to figure this out. But 242 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: right now, the way that they're combiding and putting this 243 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: rotter together is all coming from outside, and they have 244 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: to be able to build from the draft. 245 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: I agree Charlie that said, I'm pretty impressed with Harmon, 246 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: and I think he's made the whole unit on defense, 247 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: especially in the trench. 248 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 2: Has made those guys better, don't you. 249 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 3: Yes, he absolutely did. And this is one of the 250 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: reasons why you brought him here because the image that 251 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: we had was the one that we had from the 252 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 3: playoff game against the Ravens when they ran for two 253 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: hundred ninety nine yards first two weeks in the season. 254 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: They know we were getting crushed in the run defense. 255 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: Harmon comes back. He was supposed to play minimum in 256 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: the Patriots game. He played a lot more than what 257 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: was expecting, and of course we saw the full arsenal 258 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: against the Vikings. As long as he is healthy, that's 259 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: going to allow a Keanu Betten to have a game 260 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: like he had against Minnesota. Cam. Yes, we know he's 261 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: going to be there. He's the stout guy, veteran guy. 262 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: But ultimately these young guy has to be able to 263 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 3: pick up opposite Cam Hayward. 264 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: One thing Kim Benz brought up a little bit ago Charlie, 265 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: and it's it's fairly obvious, but nonetheless absolutely correct. 266 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: Gabris only five to eleven. 267 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: One thing, the Steelers are really good at his batting 268 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: passes done. 269 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 3: Aren't they? Yeah, they are. And you know a lot 270 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: of said when it comes down to short quarterbacks, and 271 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: we know, you know, we've been able to get hands 272 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: on balls that would you know that would throwing and 273 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: batting them down. But when you have success like you 274 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: Drew Brees has had out a five to eleven, six foot guy, 275 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray has as a short style at your quarterback 276 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: that is working toward Dylan Gabriel's favor only because you 277 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: now have things to compare it to. I wouldn't get 278 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: on the fact of saying we're going to have so 279 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: many bad at balls if you're now in manageable third 280 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: down situations, if you can now get them into third 281 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: and long third and extra long. Then yes, I can 282 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: use that narrative. So they have to be able to 283 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: be dominant on first down, to be able to be disruptive, 284 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: to allow Dalan Gabriel those third long opportunities. 285 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: The Steelers are three and one, and a lot of 286 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: the national media, because of how much the division, the 287 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: AFC North has disintegrated, are conceding them winning the division. 288 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: I hope it's that simple, Charlie. 289 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: But what do you think This is where these track 290 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: games start to happen. Right the game you're supposed to win, 291 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you let a couple go down. 292 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: Think about a couple of years ago, you know, they 293 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: had a chance to really have a number one seed, 294 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: and then there was a week that went by where 295 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: they lost to the Cardinals, and then on a short 296 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: week they lost to the Patriots, and then they went 297 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: from like the number one seeds and number five and 298 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: you're like, wow, we're supposed to beat those teams. I 299 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 3: just hope that this team is not starting to read 300 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: the headlines thinking that they better, they're better than what 301 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: they actually are, and start losing games that they're supposed 302 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: to win. Let it all go they'll block out the outside. 303 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: Control what you can control, regardless of the injuries that 304 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: are happening within the division. Just go out there and 305 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: win because that's who's on your schedule, and then we 306 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: just start talking about what that looks like at the 307 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: end of the season. 308 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: Finally, Charlie, here's the subplot for Sunday's game. They traded 309 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: Flacco and the coach didn't even know about it, he says, 310 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: And Shador is the number two quarterback. 311 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: The owner clearly wants him to play. I think the 312 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: owner drafted him. 313 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, what would it take for 314 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: Shador to get in the game on Sunday at Pittsburgh. 315 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think. Really, you're probably four or five 316 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: six consecutive series that maybe that Browns offense goes three 317 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: and out and then you're looking for a change. And 318 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: I just what I saw, even the breaking news of 319 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: him than the beam the announced as the number two, 320 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, was I really breaking news? Because I 321 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: really went back to my career. I'm like, was there 322 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: ever breaking news when I was in the backup to 323 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger? Like, no, it didn't happen, But either way, 324 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 3: we're here. But he's one snopple, one play away from 325 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: going into the game. Do they have a package for him? Possibly, 326 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: but either way you got to prepare for him. But 327 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: this team knows what yourdor's strength and weaknesses are because 328 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: they were evaluate him, valuating him heavily into draft in April. 329 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: Charlie, you're a Homestead guy. 330 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I respect that everything you did was breaking news on 331 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: this program. 332 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate it. Mark. You gotta come over to 333 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: the foundation, buddy. Hey, we just went from fifty three 334 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: hundred square feet to thirty three thousand square feet, so 335 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: we're eager to show it off. So when you get 336 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: a break, you get to come over and check it 337 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: out and see the kids in action. 338 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: You know I will. I'll gladly serve the best of 339 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: the Batch Foundation. Just say when Charlie, great stuff, great insight. 340 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk again soon. Enjoy the game. 341 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. 342 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: That's Charlie Batch. Don't forget. 343 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: Check him out on the post game show on DVE 344 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: after the Bronze and Steelers on Sunday. Always great to 345 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: talk to Charlie at the bottom of the hour. It's 346 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: not always great to talk mister Friday afternoon. 347 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 6: From the one five nine the X Traffic Center. 348 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: This report is sponsored I'd love to get the balls. 349 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: Very good point the ex at one nine. 350 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot of Steelers and bronze. Thanks 351 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: to Tim Bens and Charlie Batch for joining me so far. 352 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: On today's program. We also talked a lot of hockey. 353 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: We got the New York Rangers visiting PPG Paint Arena 354 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: tomorrow night, the comeback game for Sully after the Penguins 355 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: beat him and the Rangers on Tuesday at the Garden. 356 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: The Rangers did bounce back to win four IL at 357 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: Buffalo last night, so Buffalo sucks again, but I I'm 358 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: not sure the Rangers are going to be very much better. Yeah, 359 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: we come up with some storylines for the Steelers. It 360 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: took a little digging. But does the offense have an identity? 361 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: I would say no, except real big, real conservative and 362 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: not an offense that's going to come from me behind 363 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: or beat a good team in a big game. Is 364 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: this game a Tomlin special? The loss that shouldn't be 365 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: which we see all too often, and it seems like he's. 366 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: Due for one of them? 367 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: Wat versus Garrett? Do they see it as a rivalry. 368 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: I think they do. Who's going to get to win, 369 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: who's going to get the stats? And what would each 370 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: rather have if you gave them truth serum the win 371 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: or the stats. 372 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: I really do wonder. 373 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: We've been talking about a lot of Steeler fans on Twitter, 374 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: a lot of media stooges as well, saying the steelershould 375 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: have drafted Scatabo after his big game last night for 376 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants, scoring three touchdowns while they 377 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: killed the Philadelphia Eagles, defending Super Bowl champions. I don't 378 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: think they should have drafted Scattabo. Scatabo won the fourth round. 379 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: They got Caleb Johnson in the third round. They should 380 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: be given Caleb Johnson the ball. And I know a 381 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: lot of you think, well, the Steelers don't think he's 382 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: good enough. It takes a long time to learn that offense, 383 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: horse manure. That offense is dumber than ever with seven 384 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: offensive linemen. How much do you have to know to 385 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: run the ball behind seven offensive linemen? They just would 386 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: rather give the ball and the snaps and the starting 387 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: job to a couple of backups rather than give their 388 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: third round pick. Who's a power back, who's a better 389 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: fit for this offense than either Gainwell or Warren. They 390 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: just don't want to play rookies because worldless Steelers, and 391 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: that's how we do things. 392 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: Here's how the Steelers do things. 393 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: They don't want a playoff game in eight years, well 394 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: going on eight. That's how they do things. So don't 395 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: sit there like a door and say they should have 396 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: drafted Scattabow. 397 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: I know, don the dial. That's all they're saying. 398 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: They're not looking at the actual situation, which is they 399 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: should be playing Caleb Johnson. And if you want to 400 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: cite that that kickoff faux pa he made that lost 401 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: the game to Seattle. That's got nothing to do with 402 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: him playing running back. He never returned kickoffs at Iowa 403 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: in college. It's got nothing to do with the other. 404 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: So again, this team is three and one, it's gonna 405 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: be four and one, gonna be five to one, it 406 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: could be seventeen in one. 407 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: I don't think they have any idea. 408 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: What they're doing in terms of coaching, personnel management, nothing. 409 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: I think they're idiots. 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We welcome back 467 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: to the program, mister Friday afternoon. Mister Friday Afternoon, how 468 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: do we explain your fade? You did so well the 469 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: first two weeks, but since then not so much. 470 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 5: Sena your visions? 471 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: Okay? 472 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: Well, I have talked to HR as well as executives 473 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: in iHeartMedia, and we have concluded that, despite it being 474 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: contractually obligated in your contract design Clad, we will no 475 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: longer be shocking you one time per loss because HR 476 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: has decided it's in humane. 477 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 4: Oh good, oh what did you do that? 478 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 5: Ouch? 479 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 480 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 4: I I wow, stop that. 481 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: That's kind of weird. 482 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: It must have been like a default setting based on 483 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: the contract. We that that wasn't meant to happen. But 484 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: I'll I'll clear it up by next week. It seems 485 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: to me be a technical difficulty. 486 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 5: That's okay, I't just talk. 487 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 4: I'll just h bring it up with legal. 488 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: Well, No, I talked to HR. They said, they said 489 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: it's okay. 490 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: Now. 491 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 4: Oh, no, I want to I want to HR. I'm 492 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: talking to legal. No. 493 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: I talked to them as well. They also said it's 494 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: it's okay. Now, Let's get to the picks. First off, 495 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers pick. Steelers favored by six at home against Cleveland. 496 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: Is this a typical Mike Tomlin trap game? Because it 497 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: seems kind of like one of those is do doesn't it? Well? 498 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 4: It's got like every good trend and the Steelers working 499 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: on it does Cleveland is one of the worst, uh 500 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 4: travel spots you could ever be. And they flew overseas, 501 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 4: they flew back home. They're on a short week. They 502 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: gotta go back on the road to Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh's 503 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: had a week off. Not to mention Tomlin's success against 504 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 4: rookie quarterbacks. However, I just still can't get over the 505 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: fact that the Steelers, as favorites, you know, usually have 506 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 4: trouble covering the number because they're playing defensive style and 507 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: it wasn't being clean like eighteen straight times. 508 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: I don't think that, you know, yeah, you're supposed to 509 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: know that. 510 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: I mean it his own Cleveland, they got a rookie quarterback. 511 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 4: Thomin's great against rookie quarterbacks. However, I think Vegas has 512 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,959 Speaker 4: just made this line like a little bit too high. 513 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 4: I think this is gonna win the game. But I 514 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: mean I can clearly, I think as well as anybody 515 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: can see like a sixteen to thirteen field goal battle, 516 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: you know, against the best defense in the league and 517 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 4: plus two there. Do you know that Aaron Jones that 518 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: his age does not want to be mauled by Miles Garrett, 519 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: So I'm expecting them very Uh well, by the way, 520 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 4: Miles Garrett owns t J. 521 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: Watty just saying that, you're just saying that because you 522 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: hate the Steelers, Uh. 523 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 4: No, that's not sure. He's just he's just he's just 524 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 4: a far better defensive player of the TG wat he 525 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: owns he's CG watch dad. So, Uh, I think they're 526 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 4: still gonna be scared. 527 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 528 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Okay, for some reason, mister Friday Afton's phone say that again, 529 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: your phone was fading you. 530 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: You need to get a better FO. You need to 531 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: be more professional. 532 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: Well, I can't help them with the satellite situation, with 533 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: the WiFi the I just think it's too many points. 534 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 4: Just say Cleveland the points Textsford to win the game, 535 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: Cleveland cover. 536 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: Now, I don't think Aaron Rodgers is in danger. 537 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: The Steelers have been using seven offensive linemen, including an 538 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: extra tackle and a monster tight end. It's kind of 539 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: a prehistoric approach, isn't it. 540 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 4: Uh? Did they have eight offensive linem because they're probably 541 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 4: gonna meet another one against like Cleveland defensive front. 542 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so take Cleveland plus six. Let's go out of 543 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: your pick of the week. 544 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 4: Uh, let's go with the Vegas Raiders of the Bounty. 545 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: You know, Pete Carroll is like twelve and three in 546 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: his career on three straight losses. They got embarrassed. Last week. 547 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 4: Tennessee had the luckiest when I'm sure you talked about 548 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: on your show, like every every survivor Pool the Bills 549 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: and the Arizona and Arizonians a joke. They were getting 550 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: killed again. They were able to go down twenty eight 551 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 4: to six, and some miracle happened that came back. So 552 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 4: whatez on. 553 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: The air with that huge nose, ears, what the hell 554 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: was going on? 555 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 4: That electric shock that you gave me disrupted my service 556 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 4: that it makes me sick. So it's like, this is 557 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: all your your this is your fault. Okay, okay, okay, 558 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: so yeah, so let's take uh, let's take Vegas. All right, 559 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: I must win situation. I get the Tennessee team and 560 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: play their second game. Well, they got lucky last week. 561 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 4: I live for Vegas to comfortably witness game as long 562 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: as they're gonna run the ball a lot because Geno 563 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 4: since got nine interceptions and says that's like from our 564 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 4: conservative game planning, and they're the better team. 565 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: So Vegas minus three and a half. 566 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 4: Correct? 567 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: Okay, And now it's time for the daily double. I 568 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: don't know what, let me ask you this. I get 569 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: excited for the daily doubles. Still don't. 570 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, the daily double is one of my 571 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: favorite kids the week. 572 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: Okay, laying on us, We're gonna go. 573 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 4: Back to the wall with Green Bay plus lawyer with 574 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: excuse me, with Cincinnati plus fourteen a half, I expect them. 575 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 4: They've been They've been lost by double digits three weeks 576 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 4: in a row. They actually have some good players on 577 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 4: this team. They got a new quarterback and Jake Brown 578 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 4: into his interceptions left and right. I they should keep 579 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 4: it close within three scores, were gonna Green Mays. God, No, 580 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: no reason to get marged in this game. You know 581 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: they got they got a stretch coming up of some 582 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: tough games. 583 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: Look at them. 584 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 4: They get ahead Coast and Placo to get him in 585 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 4: the back door at the end. Or maybe they keep 586 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 4: it close. You might be they may want to keep 587 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 4: them to a one score game the whole time. So 588 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: that's just so many points in the NFL when you 589 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 4: got Jamark Chase and see Higgins, and you know fourteen 590 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: and a half is too much. 591 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Take green Bay plus fourteen and a half and that 592 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: is the daily double. Excuse me, take Cincy plus fourteen 593 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: and a half. Green Bay plus fourteen and a half 594 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: would would be a lock, obviously, right. 595 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 4: So correct, since Cynty plus fourteen and a half is 596 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 4: the daily double. 597 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: Okay, now you have zero doubts. 598 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: Well, it depends on what the super colliders. 599 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: Well, the super Collider I've thought about. 600 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: This is a great deal because, as you know, the 601 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: super Collider is my baby, and I think it's the 602 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: most important pick of the week. So I'm going to 603 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: make the Steeler game the super Collider. 604 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 4: Well, go figure, I mean you, I mean, why don't 605 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 4: you know? Why would you not want to make the 606 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: super Collider. You'll put it on top of the Daily Double. 607 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to spare you embarrassment. That would be extra losses. 608 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean I told you I have zero 609 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 4: doubt about the Daily Doubt. 610 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: I have zero dot about the super Collider. 611 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: Between from between the super Collider and the Daily Double, I. 612 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: Have zero doubt. 613 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: Well, I like you, I have zero doubt about the 614 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: super Collider, but I do have doubts about the Daily Double. 615 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 4: Although we'll just have to see how it plays out there. 616 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: We really will. Would you like to talk to your fans? 617 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 618 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: Okay, if you like to talk to mister Friday afternoon, 619 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: call now eight three three four one two ninety nine 620 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: thirty nine. And that's eight three three four one two 621 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: ninety nine thirty nine. Seriously, getting back to what I said, 622 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: you said it was under my business, but it is 623 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: my business. This is my radio program. Why do you 624 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: think you're you're picking? It's like every year you have 625 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: good streaks and bad streaks. What is depriving you of consistency? 626 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going to reveal my trade secrets. 627 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: Well because I. 628 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: Don't think you should have a problem with revealing your 629 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: trade secrets when you're ten and fifteen. 630 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: Okay, Well all right, So I started a new strategy 631 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: this year, and what I've been doing is I've been 632 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: putting all the picks in a hat and for this 633 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: show I had picked, I draw the names out of 634 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 4: the hat and that's my picks. 635 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. That that's just like contradictory to everything being an 636 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: experture to entail. 637 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: You're making it absolutely random. 638 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, but sometimes the randomness, uh, the kid comes clarity. 639 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 4: So what could happen is is like I could I 640 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 4: could go three and know this week I could win 641 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 4: the Super Collider, I can win the Daily Double. You know, 642 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 4: I had the domains, the teams I picked out of 643 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 4: the hat had a lot of good stuff backing it up. 644 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 4: So I also have zeroed out. 645 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: Let me ask you, this is it a pirates hat? 646 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 5: Is excuse me? 647 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: Do you hire no? 648 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 5: Who? 649 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 4: Who would? 650 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: Who would? 651 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 4: Out a pirates hat? 652 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: That's mister Friday afternoon. 653 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: The picks once again, take Since, Take up Green Bay, 654 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: Take Cincinnati plus the points, Take Cleveland plus the points. 655 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: What's the other freaking pick? Take Vegas, giving giving the points. 656 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: So there you have it. Now it's time to Ask 657 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: Mark Anything. The eight three three four one two ninety 658 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: nine thirty nine eight three three four one two ninety nine. 659 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: Thirty nine, and don't forget. 660 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: At the top of the hour, we're gonna have the 661 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: list and we're gonna talk to River Hunts Captain Danny 662 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: Griffin River Hunts at home tomorrow night. If they win, 663 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: they clinch a playoff berth for the eighth consecutive season. 664 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: A Mark Man one oh five nine. 665 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 6: It's time to submit your questions for Ask Mark Anything. 666 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 6: Use your free iHeartRadio app and SAP the microphone icon 667 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 6: to send your questions to the super genius instantly. 668 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: What the Spirits Summer News shall join us for the 669 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: Xers Halloween. 670 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: Clues On Thursday, October thirtieth. 671 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: The cup sets sale at eight pm, which live He's 672 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: it from the Clintones playing All Your nineties Favorites. 673 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: Ten dollars and fifty nine cents from every ticket sold 674 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 3: goes to the Mary ellamw Foundation ORR Crew for this 675 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 3: twenty one or older event and dressing your Halloween best. 676 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: To score prizes. 677 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 4: All Night Wow tickets around sale. 678 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: Now at gateway clipper dot com. 679 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: The exes some halloways on the Gateway Clipper sponsored by 680 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: Disaster Restoration Services. 681 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: We'll see you on October. 682 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: Th This hour the Mark Madden Shows, brought to you 683 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: by by the Light Broadly served at the rain drop 684 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 3: In and Marion Center. Stopping the rain drop In and 685 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: thank you. 686 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: For making my day? 687 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you said the ex at one oh five nine. 688 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: Now it's time to ask Mark anything now eight three 689 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: three four one two ninety nine thirty nine. That's A 690 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: three three four one two ninety nine thirty nine. Or 691 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: you can still leave a talk back via the iHeart 692 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: Media app. Just click on the microphone icon. But the 693 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: number to call is A three three four one two 694 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: w XDX. Did I even give the number out the 695 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: dan last segment, I'm clearly you know, losing memory, going 696 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: a little milky in the Philbert Dementia's amility. However you 697 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: want to phrase it, and I can make fun of 698 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: it because I'm getting it. Maybe hope not. But that's 699 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: the number to call. Eight three three four one, two 700 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: thirty nine. Let's go to Newman. 701 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: Hello, Newman, Hello, Jerry. 702 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 5: I have two questions, If that's all right, go ahead. 703 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 5: So first question, so I know you and your mom 704 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 5: had ten season tickets back in the day. I was 705 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 5: wondering what section. 706 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: You were in. 707 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I can answer that easily. 708 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: We were in section D twenty seven, Row A, seats 709 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: five and six. 710 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 5: That's crazy because that's actually the section where I sat 711 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 5: in my first game. But uh yeah, my tickets were 712 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 5: typically up F two could literally touch the ceiling the 713 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 5: building was. 714 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I uh anyways, I uh know. 715 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: I the last game they played in that playoff lost 716 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: de Montrell in twenty ten, the last game in the 717 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Civic Arena. I actually the crowd was clear enough, so 718 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: I actually went and sat the last five minutes in 719 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: those old seats. 720 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's great. 721 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was. It was. 722 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 4: It was. 723 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: Sad but great. 724 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 5: Yeah right, all right. So second question, so it pertains 725 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: to the Flyers. So it's always fun watching them lose, 726 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 5: perhaps even more fun watching them lose than even watching 727 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 5: depends when. But I'm wondering whether you'll be rooting for 728 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 5: them to lose a bit less this season so they 729 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 5: don't end up winning big in the draft. 730 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: Well that's my big scares that they get Gavin McKenna. 731 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: That really does frighten me because I think they're bad 732 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: enough to finish low enough to get a bunch of 733 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: balls in the lottery and get that pick. So but 734 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 1: as always, I want the peng Was to finish ahead 735 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: of the Flyers. That's how I want the pen Was, 736 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: then more balls in the lottery. In so many ways 737 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: this season now, especially Newman, compounded by the two and 738 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: Oho start, it really is a cat's twenty two for 739 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: the Penguins, isn't it. 740 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I feel like it's are the situations 741 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 5: where in the moment we got a root for the Pens, 742 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 5: but whenever we probably inevitably end up being a losing team, 743 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 5: it at least gives us some solace in the end. 744 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: Wait, in the moment, yeah, it's like last night with 745 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: Mario there and and Sid and Gino having good games 746 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: and Tanger you know, in the scene in the dressing 747 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: room afterwards with the big boy there. It was such 748 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: a great night. So yeah, I can't ben happy about 749 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: them winning. And I think the people like the usual suspects, 750 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: and I hate it. 751 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: Newman. 752 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: You go down the dial except for the afternoon show 753 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: Starkey and Pompiani, none of them mfors give a frig 754 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: about hockey. They talk about it when it's you know, obligatory, 755 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: well perceived anyway, when there's nothing else to talk about, 756 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: they do the absolute minimal, and they're bitching on Twitter 757 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: and bitching on their shows about how well two points 758 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: away from Gavin mckvin McKenna, here's an idea. 759 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 2: Don't freaking talk about it at all. You don't care, 760 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: don't pay attention. 761 00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 3: F off. 762 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 5: I agreed. 763 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: I thank you, Newman, I said, good day, Las Line 764 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: open at eight three three four, one thirty nine. 765 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 766 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, anybody with the microphone could say whatever 767 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: he or she wants, no doubt about that. But if 768 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: you don't care, I'm gonna know you don't care. And honestly, 769 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: the same probably applies to me a bit with the Steelers. 770 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,919 Speaker 2: I don't care. 771 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: I have no emotional attachment, but I I think I'm merciless. 772 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 2: In my analysis, So there you go. I don't know. 773 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just as bad. I don't care. If I'm 774 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: just as bad, I'm just as bad. 775 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: Effort. 776 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: By the way, always great seeing seeing other media members 777 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: that I like. There aren't that many of those. But 778 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: at the Penguin game last night, so Shelby causey who 779 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: uh is. 780 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: A Channel eleven now? 781 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: I think after the fan didn't use her nearly as 782 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: much as they should have, so it was great to 783 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: run into Shelby. 784 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 2: Let's go to a talkback. 785 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, if you were Mike Tomlin, who are you 786 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: starting at running back? 787 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: If I were Mike tom When, I would have opened 788 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: the season splitting Caleb Johnson and Jalen Warren as the 789 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: starting running back and using Kenneth Gainwell as the third domback, 790 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: And the idea would have been to work eventually to 791 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: having Caleb Johnson as the first and second down back 792 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: once he gets a little better pass protection maybe and 793 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: and you know, facing Jaylen Warren out period because I 794 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: think he's a scrub. I think he's a scrub. I 795 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: don't think he's done much to prove to anybody he's 796 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: not a scrub. I would have been working toward Caleb 797 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: Johnson being the starter and Kenneth Gainwell being the third domback. 798 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: I look at at scatter Bow, people making a big 799 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: fuss about him doing well with the Giants last night, 800 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: and and you know, I mean, maybe he's not great 801 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: to pass protect either, but maybe they decided to take 802 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: a chance to let him learn on the fly and 803 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 1: just do what he can do, which is ball people 804 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: over running the ball. I just I don't understand the Steelers' trepidation. 805 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: And it's constant to not use young guys, and people 806 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: cite exceptions many times, but they are exceptions. If there's 807 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: somebody else to play instead of a rookie, they play 808 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: to somebody else. And you look at Dan Morehowe using 809 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: him just ruin Broderick Jones by moving Jones to right tackle, 810 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: just confusing him, making him a swing tackle, breaking his confidence. 811 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: And they did that for Dan Moore, who sucks. 812 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: And if when they drafted Broderick Jones they figured out 813 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: pretty quickly that he wasn't good enough and they should 814 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: play Dan Moore left tackle, then shame on them for 815 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: their their scouting and drafting in taking Broderick Jones. 816 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: Again, I say, I know. 817 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: The Steelers are three and one, and everybody says yeahoo, 818 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna win the division. Yeah. 819 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: Yahoo. 820 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: I don't think they had the Vegas clue of what 821 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: they're doing. I think they're coaching, they're personnel, they're scouting. 822 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: I think the most knowledgeable guy in that organization is 823 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: Andy Weinel, and they don't give him nearly enough pull. 824 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: So well, whatever, whatever I mean, you guys believe what 825 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: you want. At the end of the season, it turns 826 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: out that I am just about always right.