1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Give w o R. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 2: O Brie said on the iHeartRadio app to hear Mark 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: Simone and all the wo R hosts in an instance. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Now back to the Mark Simo Show on w o R, Well, 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: we'd like to bring you the smartest people around. John Fund, 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: the great columnist National Review and also the Committee Unleash Prosperity, 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: does great work there, and he wrote the best book 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: on the subject of our elections. You've got to get 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: his book. It's called Our Broken Elections by John Fund. 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: You can get it on Amazon. John Fund, how you 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: doing a pleasure? 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: Thank you? 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: Hey, voter ID the fight sign. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Luckily I'm in Florida, so I don't have to sit 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: through your snow. But you know, I hope, I hope 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: your listeners are warm and at home. 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: You're missing all the fun here, and don't try to 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: get back. The airport's going to be closed for three days, but. 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not due until Friday. 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: I'll be fine, You'll be Hey, this voter ID thing, 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: it gets more and more and more ridiculous. Obviously you 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: need an ID to buy anything anywhere, to get into 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: any office building. It's obviously the Democrats up to no 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: good with this voter ID stuff. Am I right. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: Well, let's look at the New York City. We learned 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: a few years ago when Deblasio was mayor how much 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: fraud there was in New York City elections. The Democratic 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: appointee to the Board of Elections from Manhattan was accosted 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: by James O'Keefe at a party and he admitted how 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: much fraud there was in New York. He said, you know, 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: in buses they rent them in Chinatown, they take up 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: pick up the homeless, they give them packs of cigarettes, 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: they drive them from polling place to polling place, and 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: that's just one way that they do fraud. And Deblasio's 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: response was not to question him about the fraud, but 36 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: to fire him. He fired his own Democratic appointee to 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: the Board of Elections. So we know there's fraud. Now, 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: what does Mayor Mandami do. Well. The mayor says voter 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: ID is racist. He agrees with Chuck Schumer that it's 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Jim Crow two point zero. But when he announces that 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: the city needs emergency snow shovelers yesterday, what does he say? 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: It's nineteen dollars an hour, you know, good wages, maybe 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: not union wages. But good wages, and you only have 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: to bring five forms of ID to sign up. You 45 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: need two photos, you need two IDs and your Social 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: Security card and then you can snow. Then you're allowed 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: to shovel snow, which is of course a high security, 48 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: high impact job. So the hypocrisy here is beyond rich. 49 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: Isn't it also the most racist thing on earth? For 50 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: Democrats to say, well, a black voter can't figure out 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: how to get an idea they wouldn't be capable of getting. 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: How racist is well? 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: The Brennan the Brennan Center, which is the liberal think 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: tank that does these issues, say twenty five percent of 55 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: African Americans lack of the Loder idea, an idea that 56 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: would be accepted at the polls. That's ridiculous. Everybody knows that. 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't sign up for Medicare, you can't 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: sign up for catching a check, you can't travel, you 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: can't do anything with that ide Today, it's preposterous to 60 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: say that twenty five percent of African Americans lack of ID, 61 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: and of course African Americans think it's preposterous. If you 62 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: look at the polls, the most recent ones of the 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: Washington Post survey and and the Pew Research survey seventy 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: one percent of African Americans support photo idea at the polls, 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: sixty seven percent of Hispanics and eighty percent of Asian Americans. 66 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: So if it's so racist, if it's so discriminatory, why 67 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: is it that they all of these minority groups have 68 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: false consciousness and believe something which isn't true. 69 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: He didn't Obama require photo idea to get Obamacare. 70 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Well, of course you need the idea to get Obamacare. 71 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: You need ideed for everything. In fact, if you march 72 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: down to the to the city hall to get married, 73 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: and that's you know, marriage is a constitutional right, whether 74 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: it's gay or straight marriage, you've got to have an id. 75 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, so what do you think will happen whill 76 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: we get the Can the federal government do something to 77 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: make it uniform voter idea require? 78 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: First of all, we don't. We don't want to follow 79 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: what Joe Biden did, which is he tried to nationalize 80 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: the elections. He tried to take away the power of 81 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: the states to run the elections and federalize it in Washington. 82 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: We don't want that. So what the law that's before 83 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: the Senate now it passes past the House. The law 84 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: says the federal government, if it's going to give money 85 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: the people to the states for voting machines and improving 86 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: their technology, in response, you have to have you have 87 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: to require that the states ask for ID to vote 88 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: the polls. And when people first register, they have to 89 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: prove their citizenship. And there are many ways to prove 90 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: your citizenship. You can do it with a birth certificate, which, 91 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: by the way, you can get online. Now you can 92 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: go through almost all the records and if you're less 93 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: than eighty years old, you're going to find your certificate 94 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: online and can get a copy sent to you. And 95 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: I'll look, I'll say it should be free, you know. 96 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: I think that everybody should have access to a free 97 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: ID and then they can use it to vote. And 98 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: that's why it's so easy, that's why so overwhelming majorities 99 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: of every American demographic group supported. In fact, the last 100 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: time I checked it was the Washington Post survey. There 101 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: were forty different categories of voters, and the only category 102 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: which voter ID did not have a majority of it 103 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: had a plurality support, more supportive it than not. There 104 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: were few not sure was the extremely liberal group I 105 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: call those MSNBC and ms NOW voters. Other than that, 106 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: everyone supports voter ID. 107 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: So hey, maybe maybe it's too early to ask you this, Well, 108 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: how does it look for the midterms? What do you 109 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: think happens in the midterms? 110 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: If the election were today, would not be good. But 111 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: the election is not held today, It's held in November, 112 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: and the economy will go through a lot of generations 113 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: before then. President Trump, you know, has been known to 114 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: pull rabbits out of hats, but you know he's gonna 115 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: have to be a pretty big rabbit. He has made 116 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: some tactical mistakes, Mark, and unfortunately I think he is 117 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: anger sometimes gets ahead of his cold calculated self interest. 118 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: And the problem with the tariffs is this. The tariffs 119 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: are very very popular with his base. Eighty seven percent 120 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: of MAGA Republicans like the tariffs, but forty three percent 121 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: of non MAGA Republicans support the tariffs. So there's a 122 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: big gap there, and there's still a lot of non 123 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: MAGA Republicans. So here's the problem. Overall, independents hate the 124 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: tariffs by two to one, and they're the ones who 125 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: decide the election in these thirty swing house races. I 126 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: think the Supreme Court handed the president a gift. It 127 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: gives him an excuse to blame someone else for scaling 128 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: back the tariffs and not making them the big issue 129 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: in the campaign. Here's the problem we have, Mark, He's 130 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: imposed this new fifteen percent tariff, but it expires in 131 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: five months. That puts us right in the middle of 132 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: the fall campaign. Congress will then have to vote on 133 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: the tariffs to extend them, otherwise they go away immediately. 134 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Trump will put pressure on the Republican congressman to vote 135 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: for them, but enough will not vote for them that 136 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: he'll go down to defeat. He'll look weak. The tariffs 137 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: will be the issue in the fall election. It won't 138 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: be ice, It'll be the tariffs. And people who worry 139 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: about affordability and the high price of things are going 140 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: to say Trump wanted tariffs, he just forced Congress to 141 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: vote on them, and I don't want high prices, so 142 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to not vote Republican or stay home. 143 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: Well, now, what can he do tomorrow? I'd stay to 144 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: the Union's beach too, you fix that? Can he do 145 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: something tomorrow night to really make. 146 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: If he wants to pull a rabbit out of the hat, 147 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Here's the biggest rabbit he can pull. Right now, everything 148 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: in our economy is indexed. You know, your Social Security 149 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: payment is indexed, your tax brackets are indexed. Everything is 150 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: indexed for inflation. The one thing that isn't indexed for 151 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: inflation is capital gains. If you buy an asset, whether 152 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: it's a painting, a house, a stock, it's not indexed 153 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: for inflation as it appreciates in value. In other words, 154 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: if you sell something, you're selling it at the price 155 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: it is today, not the price you paid for it. 156 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: So what the president can do, and he could do 157 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: it with housing, but I think he should do it 158 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: with the economy as a whole. He should say, if 159 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: you sell something, you're going to pay the capital gains 160 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: on the original price, not the price you settle down. 161 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: This will unlock housing all over the country. There are 162 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: people sitting in houses mark that aren't selling because they 163 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: don't want to pay the capital gains because there's you know, 164 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: your housing exemption goes away after a while. If if 165 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: he did that, that would be turbo charging the economy. 166 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: Secretary of State Treasury, Secretary's Treasury Besson has done the numbers. 167 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: Would turbo charge the economy? Would have a rush of 168 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: GDP growth and people would be freed up. They could 169 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: get they could change assets, they could buy new assets. 170 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: It would be a boon and it would be a 171 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: political winner. 172 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: Wow. Good stuff. Well, John Fund brilliant as always. Get 173 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 2: his book Are Broken Elections. That's an excellent book. You 174 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: should read it and read his columns, of course. And 175 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: you do a great job with the committee Unleashed Prosperity. 176 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: Every day they put out the best daily news and analysis. 177 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: People can just go to Unleash Prosperity dot com. 178 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: Sign up. 179 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: You'll get it for free every day. John Fund, thanks 180 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: as always for being with us. 181 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark Pleasure, take care. 182 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: Hey, don't forget Buck and Clay. Noon today, they'll be 183 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: doing a great show for you after the news. At 184 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 2: twelve noon, you got Sean Hannity, the most listened to 185 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: radio show in America. Just a head of three o'clock, 186 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: you got Jesse Kelly, John Batchelor excellent. Not John Badgett. 187 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: At nine o'clock, Jimmy Fayle. It's interesting, it's funny. You're 188 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: gonna love it. Every night nine to midnight. Here, I'm 189 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: seven ten wor