1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: We got Broncos Country tonight. Coming up. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: This evening is going to be Ben and Nick in studio, 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: all right, cool, looking forward to that. And then Ben's 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: gonna be back with me tomorrow for a bit of 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: a previous show. We got to see Basketball A four thirty, 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: but that's gonna be a lot of fun. And then Nate, 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: you know, on Friday, and he got a tweet out 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: that has been burning things up here. I have to 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: get your reaction on this the Bill Belichick stuff, because 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: Nate Jackson, our own Nate Jackson tweeted out and got 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Adam Schefter to retweet him says another crappy thing about 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: the Bill Belichick Hall of Fame snub. Correct me if 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, guys, but they only put in one coach 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: per year, right, so now Mike Shanahan will likely have 15 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: to wait another year to get in. Shanny should have 16 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: got his gold jacket years ago. And then he said 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: some curse words that I can't repreat. But yeah, that's 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: that's a great point. By date, I think it's stupid 19 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: that Belichick didn't get in. Really, yes, to me, it's petty. 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: People don't like you. I know, he's not a likable guy. 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: And we see this happen a lot. We see it 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: happy and in baseball too. 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: You know, if certain sports writers didn't like a guy, 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: they won't put him in the Hall of Fame. We're 25 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: seeing it happen right now with Barry Bonds and Roger 26 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: Clemens and guys like that because of the steroid thing. 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: But when you look at the heat the guys that 28 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: are in these various Hall of Fames, these guys, some 29 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: of them racists, committed some crimes and there's well look 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: at O. J. Simpson, but that was before. But uh 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: know where you're going. Yeah, it's not like these are 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: choir boys that you're trying to put into the Hall 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: of Fame. Right, and Belichick with the deflate Gate and 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: Spygate and all that, right, okay, but still six super 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: Bowls and you don't put them in first ballot. 36 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,639 Speaker 1: He's got eight total. 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's petty. I think that's petty and dumb. 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: And we're seeing the same thing in baseball too. Happens 39 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: all the. 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Time next year. 41 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: But it was point about Shanny too. I don't know 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: why Shanahan not yet not don't either. It makes zero 43 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: sense to me. 44 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: Dave once again, and this is one of my favorite 45 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: Dave Logan rants. He had a tremendous Dave Logan rant 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: yesterday on Mike Shanahan not being in and it's personal 47 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: for him because he's he's friends with coach. But if 48 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: you guys get a chance in the first hour yesterday, 49 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: he hit a brilliant Mike Shanahan rance that you guys 50 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: got to and go listen to because it's and he's 51 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: one hundred percent right. What's what's your argument at this point? 52 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: What's your argument? But but what he's saying, what Nate 53 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: is saying is is accurate. And there's this you've got 54 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: to wait your turn mentality with the Pro Football Hall 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: of Fame, and it's it's like, well, he has waited, 56 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: he has waited, and there are coaches that have gotten 57 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: in that I don't think are as deserving as he is. 58 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: But now that Bill Belichick is up for it, he's 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: gonna have to wait again because you can't go in 60 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: if Bill Belichick is waiting. Does that make sense Shahan 61 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: getting That's what it is like, you have to wait 62 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: for Bill Belichick has to go in front of Mike 63 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: Shannan because if you put in Mike Shanahan in front 64 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: of Bill Belichick, that's a statement that they don't want 65 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: to make as a hall. 66 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: And they did the same thing. 67 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: I remember when when TD was up for the Hall 68 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: and he told he told the story famously of talking 69 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: to Hall of Fame selectors and they'd say, we think 70 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: you're a Hall of Famer, but you can't go in 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: front of this guy. 72 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: We have to wait. 73 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: You have to wait until this guy goes in, and 74 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 2: then and then another guy comes up. And the problem 75 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: is is like every year, another batch of guys comes 76 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: up and they're ready, and so it becomes very difficult 77 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: if you're like, Okay, well I'm gonna have to wait 78 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: another year and then maybe I mean now Andy Reid 79 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: of course will get in eventually, but it's like you 80 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: don't have to waste some time. But you know what 81 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, who's going to be the next guy 82 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: that comes up? And they go, well, I'm guy. You 83 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: know Tom Koslin got two Super Bowls too, And you know, 84 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: then they can talk themselves into these things, and. 85 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: It's it's a bunch of uh malarkey. 86 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm guessing somebody on the committee doesn't like Shanahan and 87 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: they're making. 88 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: Them pays like something like that. 89 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: Janny, let me tell you story about Shandy. I know 90 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: Dave knows him real well. Back in the day, Shanahan, 91 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: who obviously was superstitious, he was on my show every 92 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: week on the Morning Show if they won, so there'd 93 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: be times when we'd have them on, you know, seven 94 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: eight games in a row, they lose a game, then 95 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 3: another three four in a row. Every week he was 96 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: on the show and he was great. And he invited 97 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: me and my dad to the Cardinals game when the 98 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: Broncos played down there, knowing my dad lived in Arizona 99 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,559 Speaker 3: and was a huge football fan. He gave my dad 100 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: and I bench passes. My dad was seventy five years 101 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: old at the time. That's so cool and I will 102 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: never forget it. So in the here's what the pass said. 103 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: The pass said, injured player on our pass. And we're 104 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: so right before kickoff, Shanny comes up to me goes, hey, 105 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: you guys, get in Okay? Everything good? I said, yeah, man, 106 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: I said, everything's great, except a lot of people are 107 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: looking at my d like, what's with the injured player thing? 108 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: And I said to my dad's telling everybody he's on 109 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: IR for a swollen prostate, and Shanahan busted up at that. 110 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Just before the. 111 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 3: Kickoff, man he gave me like a high five and 112 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: shook my dad's hand and everything was one of the 113 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: my dad's head. It was the greatest day of his life. 114 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: That's outstanding. 115 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll never forget Shanny for doing that. It's 116 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 3: a special moment. I have a picture of him and 117 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: I on the field and that was the first game 118 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: Jay Cutler replaced Jake Plumber and we were standing right 119 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: next to Jake on the sideline. Holy can so thank you, 120 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: Mike Shanahan. That's incredible, very very cool story. That's very 121 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: cool story. 122 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: All right, So five six, six nights, there were a 123 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: game I watch Texan reacting to a lot of things 124 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: that we've been talking about over the course of the show. 125 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: So I want to go back for a moment, and 126 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: then we're gonna hear some more sound. I want to 127 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 2: go back to the Ian Rappaport report. It always feels 128 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: weird to say that, but it's just what it is. 129 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: Last night saying that Sean Payton and the Broncos and more, 130 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: Sean Payton had reached out to Joe Brady, who's now 131 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: going to be the Buffalo Bill's head coach, and inquired 132 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: about him being the OC of the Broncos with intention 133 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: to call place that came out last night, and that 134 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: was on the heels of course that Joe Lombardi was fired. 135 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 2: And then you start to put into perspective some things 136 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: he's been saying recently and some of the introspective moments 137 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: he's had with the media about play calling. 138 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: You talked about getting in plays late and. 139 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: Just sort of thinking about, like what does he want 140 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: the next several years of his coaching time to be. 141 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: And I still think he loves the grind, right, I mean, 142 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: he obviously loves the grind. You don't. 143 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: You don't do this if you don't love the grind. 144 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: But then there's a mindset of you could still be 145 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: a play designer, and you know, you could always go 146 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: back to calling plays if you're not liking how it's going. 147 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: But then you start to think about what else you 148 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: could be doing with your time and if there's an 149 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: opportunity to maybe take some things off your plate. I 150 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: would have said, and I think I did say this 151 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: during Broncos React because people were calling in and texting 152 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: in about how they wanted Sean Payton to to maybe 153 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: give up play calling. I said, I just didn't. I 154 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: didn't see it coming. Like, I would not believe that 155 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: the way that guy grinds is ever want. 156 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: To do that. It doesn't strike me to be in 157 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: his DNA. 158 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: But then you get that report last night, and if 159 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: you believe it now some people don't believe it, But 160 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: if you believe it that they're at least considering that option, 161 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: I think it opens up a whole other world of 162 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: what this team constructively could look like. 163 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was one of those people that thought he 164 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: would never give it up, that's right. But when you 165 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: read the tea leaves now, and like you said, if 166 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: that's true, there might be something coming here. And I 167 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: hope it's Davis Webb, not Mills, although Davis Mills might 168 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: be good too, right, But I hope it's Davis Webb. 169 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Men, he kept the Texans on the tracks, and. 170 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: Obviously him and Bo worked together really well. Yes, young guy, Yes, 171 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: fresh approach, maybe a new newse new age attitude. Look 172 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: at Colin plays Shawn's old school. I think this could 173 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: be really really interesting. Now, can they get him. You know, 174 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: he's a hot commodity for an OC. I didn't think 175 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: he would get a head coaching job, but I think 176 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: someone's gonna hire him as an offensive coordinator. Why not us? 177 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: Well, and so you have a couple of a couple 178 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: of opportunities, right, I mean, I think Buffalo might take 179 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: a look at him. 180 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: I imagine. I don't know if the Giants had. 181 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: The Giants hired the ROC yet, Zach, if the Giants 182 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: hired the yes, Chuck. So, yeah, there's a couple of 183 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: spots where it would make some sense for him. 184 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: I think Philadelphia is interviewing him, so you're gonna have 185 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: to move quick. 186 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: Now they have to go go ahead. 187 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: It was expected to be Todd Monkins. So with him 188 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: taking the Browns job today, that open. 189 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, appreciate ya. Tom Monkin getting the Browns 190 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: job today. 191 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: Well here's another thing too. 192 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Brown is not happy. 193 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: But that's sorry to interrupt you. Maybe you can make 194 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: a case that Dave this web wants to be his 195 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: own man and disconnect from Sean Payton, say hey, thanks 196 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 3: for the opportunity, it's my turn now, and just kind 197 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: of get out from under the shadow. Because Shawn Penn's 198 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: Sean Payton's gonna cast a huge shadow over their position, 199 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 3: just like Joel Lombardy. What was Joel Lombardi doing? 200 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: But you know what, that's a fantastic point, it really is. 201 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 2: But I'd say that if you're Davis Webb, and I 202 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: think about in terms of brock Astwiler, when he was 203 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: here right and he decided to take the money and 204 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: go to the Texans, and it wasn't as good, right, 205 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: he wasn't as good. 206 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: If he would have stayed here, they might actually won 207 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: a championship. 208 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: I believe that he would have played better because they 209 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 2: know him, they knew what he was, they knew how 210 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: to work with his strengths, and they would have embraced 211 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: brock Astsweiler sticking around post Peyton Manning. 212 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if they win a championship. 213 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm just saying like that, it would have been better 214 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: looked for him overall, like he would have played better. 215 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: Davis web knows Bonix. 216 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: If do you want to eventually be like a Ben 217 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: Johnson where everybody wants you, why not work with the 218 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: guy that you've made your mark in the league with already. 219 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: He could go to Buffalo and work with John. He's 220 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: worked with Josh before. He could go to the Giants, 221 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: He's been there before. He knows his organizations, but he 222 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: knows Bonnicks. And the reason why he is a hot 223 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: commodity is because he has worked well and builds bo 224 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: Nicks up to this point. And there's something very exciting 225 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: for me if he does get the OC job because 226 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: he's worked. 227 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: So closely with bo Nicks. 228 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: Who knows him better, who has a better communication. I 229 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: even asked Dave about that yesterday. I was like, Okay, 230 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: break down for me. The relationships inside the building, the 231 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: concentric circles the Bonix Center and then go outward, and 232 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: he said Davis spends more time with him than anybody, 233 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: and so if he gets a chance to be the OC, 234 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: that sounds like a win for everybody. 235 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 3: It is, And you're right, the Broncos bon Nick, Sean 236 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 3: Payton hot commodity, hot commodity in the NFL right now 237 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: future looks bright made it to the AFC Championship Game 238 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: in Bo's second year and nobody expected that to happen, 239 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 3: So that would make a lot of sense. So you 240 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: knowing that, yeah, maybe you take this job under Seump, 241 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: which He's still gonna learn more as a coach, which 242 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: will build his resume up even higher where his next 243 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: stop will be a head coach. So I say the 244 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: Broncos go to the super Bowl two years from now 245 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: or even next year, Davis Webb's. 246 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: A head coach after that, That's exactly. 247 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: So that's obviously a safer play than going somewhere else 248 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 3: and trying to do your own thing. 249 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: Look at Johnny Morton, right, he went to Detroit, yep 250 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: OC gone after one. 251 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: Year and they were a hot comodity at the time. 252 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: That's right, Him and decland Oyle, like those guys both 253 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: got OC jobs. Now Chicago, he's still there. Well, if 254 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: both guys got OC jobs. And it doesn't always work 255 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: the same way. In fact, Johnny Mo got his play calling. 256 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Duties were taken away from him. 257 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 3: Campbell, that's right, yeah, And I hate to say it, 258 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: but the Lions and Dan Campbell without Ben Johnson not 259 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: even close to the same. No, offensively they aren't. 260 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: And so there's something too. 261 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: Now again, Ben Johnson had built this up, like he'd 262 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: built up his stock to a point, and he paid 263 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: it off. 264 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: I mean, he might even be coaching the year. 265 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: We'll see but that's again, it's not like Davis Webb 266 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: is asking for my advice, but that would be the 267 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: advice I give him if the opportunity after the Broncos 268 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: talk to the coaches they need to they and I 269 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: don't mean this insultingly, there's no other way around. It's 270 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: just kind of what the league is right now until 271 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: they find a better system. You check off the box 272 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 2: for the Ruiney rule, which again, it feels like that, 273 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: and I'm always saying that in a way because that's 274 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: what it feels like. It should it should be better. 275 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: There's probably a there's a much better way they could 276 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: probably do it. I don't know it, but that's that's 277 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: just what it is right now, and if Davis Webb 278 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: is your guy, let's just do that. 279 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: It feel it feels like it makes a lot of sense. 280 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: I brought up Pete Carmichael yesterday because that's another option 281 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: that they could go to. He's been an offensive coordinator 282 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: and I don't think the fans would be as excited 283 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: about Pete Carmichael no offense to be. 284 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 3: Davis Webson house. That's your guy, and you got to 285 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 3: move fast, as you said, you. 286 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: Got him five six six nine zero are KA Comm's 287 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: spirit health text line. Somebody's like, there's no cap in coaches. Correct, Yes, 288 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: there is no salary cap. 289 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: And that's why a lot of fans have talked. 290 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: About vaas Joseph and hoping that the Broncos can just 291 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 2: throw a bunch of money out him and keep him here. Now, 292 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: Jim Leonard's interviewed with the Chargers today and he looks 293 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: like a guy that's probably gonna get a DC job. 294 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: So how you feeling about BJ Now you're going to 295 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: get a job. It's starting to look like maybe not, I. 296 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: Don't think so. 297 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: It looks like the Cardinals have moved on and there's 298 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: like two jobs left, the Raiders and the Cardinals. And 299 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: I have heard his name associated with the Raiders at. 300 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: All, and both of those franchises are hot messes too. 301 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: They are. 302 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I would say, if you're Veja, the Cardinals 303 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: would kind of make some sense because of rehistory there. 304 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: But they just had a defensive coordinator head coach that 305 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: flamed out. 306 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: That's right. 307 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: Maybe they want to go offense this time. 308 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be the case. What's up, Zach? 309 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: The betting nods still have him as the runner up 310 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: for the Arizona job behind Mike Lafleur. So I for 311 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: some reason the Lafleur thing doesn't work out, Maybe he's 312 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: the next man up. 313 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just haven't heard his name in a while 314 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: associated with that. In fact, most of what I've heard 315 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: is that they've moved on from him. 316 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and people that I know in Phoenix area, and 317 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: I know a lot, they weren't excited about having Vance Joseph. 318 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: They got a big mess to clean up there. I 319 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: don't know if Vance Joseph can even clean that up. 320 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: Vance might be better off just stay in here another year, 321 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl next year. Vance is a head coach. 322 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: I really hope, I really hope he does. You know, 323 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: I know there's a mindset here. It has been so 324 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: good here, and I was talking about with Dave yesterday, 325 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: the idea of continuity on that side of the ball 326 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: would be so significant. I mean, you know, most of 327 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: your core is going to come back anyways, right, the 328 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: core of the defense is going to be here. But 329 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: if you really want to hit the ground running, you 330 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: don't want to have to start out. 331 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Teaching these guys a whole other system. 332 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: Right. 333 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: The offense is already gonna have some changes with the coordinator, 334 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: even though it's Sean is still theoretically calling plays unless 335 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: he delegates that there's gonna be changes. New coordinator coming in, 336 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: There's gonna be some some things that they're gonna have 337 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: to continue to look at new wide receivers, coach all 338 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: those kinds of things. 339 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: New players. 340 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: But if the defense can just pick right back up 341 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: more or less on where they were last year, that 342 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: would be so big. 343 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: You know what. I was so proud of Bance Joseph 344 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 3: in this defense on Sunday. They played their best game. 345 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: You played like that you can beat just about anybody, 346 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: and they really should have won that game, which we've 347 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: talked about a lot, but I was so proud of them, 348 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: how they looked and they needed to play that way. 349 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: They showed up that they did, and man, you got 350 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: to try to keep this together as much as you can. 351 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: You're gonna have some changes here in the off season. 352 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: Vance Joseph might be one of them, but it would 353 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: be cool to bring him back. Let's run this back 354 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 3: on defense, because they that was special on Sunday five. 355 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: Six six nine zero RKWA Commas Bird health text line. 356 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: So I wanted to play this for you with Greg 357 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: Penner earlier today, because you remember, like I do, a 358 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: time when George Peyton was not I'm the most popular 359 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: person in Brovcos country, right, and there were quite a 360 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: few media in town and fans that were not really 361 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: sure whether he was gonna be the guy going forward. 362 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 2: And today Troy Rank asked Greg Penner, and it's an 363 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: interesting concept about aligning the contracts because George is doing 364 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: new one coming up. Sean I think has maybe one 365 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: or two years left on his and so he was 366 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: asked asked Greg Penner about whether or not he considered 367 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you do that like with the forty 368 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: nine ers when they had their coaches, they get the 369 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: aligned everything, everything is lined up. So here's what he 370 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: said about aligning George and Shawn's contracts. 371 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 5: First of all, I'd say the two of them have 372 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 5: we we'd love to have both of them here long term. 373 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: I think the partnership they've created and how they work together, 374 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 5: it's very complimentary. In terms of their contracts. You know, 375 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 5: those are things that will always deal with on a 376 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 5: personal basis and private and you know, take that as 377 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 5: it comes. 378 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: I just love that we live in a world now 379 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: where George is going to get an extension and he's 380 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: going to be here because I've been such a big 381 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: fan of his, But it always felt like as I'm 382 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: defending George, even during some of the darkest moments, like Hey, 383 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: you had a chance to improve your quarterback room and 384 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: you win, took a swing in Russell Wilson, You were 385 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 2: talked into Nathaniel Hackett's. You probably should have stuck to 386 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: your guns and gone with the coach that you wanted, 387 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: which I think at the time was Dan Quinn, but 388 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: you and the committee decided on Nathaniel Hackett. It was 389 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: a combination of those two things that were really the 390 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: crux of why you struggled so bad, and then you 391 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: end up having to get a draft pick up to 392 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: bring in Sean Payton, which now we are in a 393 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: much better place. 394 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: I just love that we live in this world now, Rick. 395 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: I love that we live in the world where George 396 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: Peyton's philosophical view on how to build a roster and 397 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: what he has implemented is celebrated, and I think most 398 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: Broncos fans are on that same page. 399 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 3: I agree one hundred and I think most of us 400 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: assumed when Peyton got hired, he'd bring his own guy 401 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: in and based on some of the things that happened 402 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: pre Sean Payton. But I think George Peyton is excellent 403 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: at his job. Not only that, he's a really good 404 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: human being, He's a good man. On top of that. 405 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: I'm a big George Peyton fan. I'm so glad it 406 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 3: all worked out and Peyton together, they got some magic. 407 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: Really good they yep, really good. You got this close man, 408 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: this year, you got to the AFC CHAMPI pionship game. 409 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: Let's run this back as much as we can that 410 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 3: they could get back there next year with this group 411 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: they have, with this core that we have, the way 412 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: you put it. And once again, I love to see 413 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: VJ come back as well. 414 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: I do like hearing you a little more optimists. We 415 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: started the show and you were you're still feeling kind 416 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: of down. 417 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 3: Talking about you know, it's really good to talk it out, 418 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: it is. It's kind of therapeutic, you know. I was 419 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: really stung by that loss. Yeah, Monday, like I was. 420 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: I don't typically think dark thoughts. I'm not that guy. 421 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: I was feeling that way Monday, and by Tuesday I wasn't. 422 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: But I haven't really had a chance to talk this 423 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 3: out with somebody like you, really sitting down and chopping 424 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: it up, talking about the game. And I feel so 425 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: much better now, I really do. Thank you, Thank you, Ryan. 426 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: How much do I owe you? Let me write you 427 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: a check here? I think I brought my check book. 428 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 3: How much for this session? What do you charge by 429 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: the hour? Three hundred bucks? So I owe you nine hundred? Okay, 430 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 3: hang on, what's said? Right? 431 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: Always good? Go over right back the gateway. 432 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: Do you have a gift? 433 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: My friend? You have a gift. I appreciate you. 434 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: I uh, I didn't even realize it until it all 435 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: just happened. It's like you just took a weight right 436 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 3: off my back, right off my shoulders. I'm sitting up 437 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: straight again. I'm smiling. I've got that that glow back, 438 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: the optimism that I'm known for, the positive guy that 439 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: I am. Thank you, Ryan Edwards. 440 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: Wow. 441 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 3: A listener said, who carries a checkbook with him anymore? 442 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: That's a good point. Nobody does. In fact, I'm gonna 443 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: have to pay you through Zell. I really don't have 444 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: a check book. I don't know. Do you take zel right? 445 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: You know? I I probably have ze Okay, I have 446 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: a lot of things I don't. 447 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 3: Even know I can do that on my app. 448 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna. 449 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: Take care of you. 450 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: You know you really listen. We'll just consider it. Even 451 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: you've been very supportive of me and my career. I would, 452 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: in large part say the reason I get to do 453 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: a lot of the things I. 454 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: Get to do is because of you. So we'll just 455 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: call it even. 456 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: Has that sound Well, that's a nice of you to 457 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 3: say that, But no, I think I got to pay 458 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: you something. This has never happened to me before. 459 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this was real therapy. 460 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: Real therapy for me, live on the radio, for real. 461 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: What that game? That loss really stung me. 462 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: I could tell the man you sat down, you sat 463 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: down at three o'clock. I could. I could see it 464 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: on your face. I'm back. 465 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: I like it. Rick Lewis is back. 466 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it well, And I'd say 467 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: that it's very kind of you to say all that. 468 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: I when we do Broncos react, especially some of the 469 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: longer ones, like after the Miami game when it's a 470 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: six hour post game and we had to work through that, 471 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: and there's a little bit of that, and I I 472 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: did say talk radio and sports talk, whether you're listening 473 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: or actively purta participating, whether it's calls or texts, there 474 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: is a therapeutic nature to it because it's community, right, 475 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: And I keep saying that during Broncos reactions, we're all 476 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: kind of experiencing it together and the frustrations, the elation, 477 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: the roller coaster of this season, specifically after that Giants game, 478 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: and you called in because you you heard listeners, you 479 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: heard me. We were all emotional right after that game. 480 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: Like that is a shared sentiment that I don't know 481 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: the person calling in, I don't know the textures I'm 482 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: responding to, but we all felt that and that's a 483 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 2: cool thing. 484 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: You know what, if you considered going back to school 485 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: pursuing a PhD in psychology, I would consider giving you 486 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: a scholarship. 487 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: Appreciated it. 488 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: Now. 489 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: I do have a wife that is a therapist, so 490 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: I will say there you go. 491 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: Okay, So she's rubbed off on you. Then there's a 492 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: little bit yes, because your your postgame show when the 493 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 3: Broncos lose tough games. I mean, you're that guy. Doctor 494 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: Edwards got a nice ring to it, a. 495 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: Nice ring to it. 496 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 497 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: If the boss is listening. 498 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: Just but yes, I was very very kind of you, 499 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: and I certainly love this. 500 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean I love this. Child's best job ever. 501 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: But to be able to come on after the games 502 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: and ride, you know, you ride the roller coaster of 503 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 2: the game, and then and then afterwards. 504 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: Gets talk about. I mean, that's yeah, that's amazing. That's 505 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: so cool. 506 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: Man. 507 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 3: We're honored and privileged to be able to do what 508 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 3: we do, agreed, and we don't take it for granted, 509 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: by the way, no. 510 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: Doubt about it. 511 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is just such an honor 512 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 3: to do this. And we got such a great crew too, 513 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: and we're a team, like the Broncos are a team. 514 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: This broadcast cruise a team, and it's special. 515 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 2: Like when will Rick and Ryan play some music for 516 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: us on air. So some point down the road, yeah, 517 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: at some point down the road, you've been He's very kind. 518 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: You've been asking me to jam with a RLP for 519 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: a while and it's funny because I'll go see you guys, 520 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: and then I get that itch. I start thinking about it, 521 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: but I don't because I get to do this. This 522 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: is like the closest I get to being an on air, 523 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: like like an on stage performer, and you know that 524 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: feeling just like I do, and you really kind of 525 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: have to keep doing it because it's in your blood, 526 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: like performing on stage. So this is the closest I 527 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: get to back because I get a microphone and we 528 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: get a chance to know im prov and all those. 529 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: Kinds of things. 530 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: But anyways, for a moment before we hit the break here, 531 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: as we were listening to Greg Pinner earlier because I 532 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: want to I want to play this sound by, and 533 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: I was espousing my gratitude for the Broncos ownership situation. 534 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 2: Remember earlier I was saying, we are unbelievably lucky, and 535 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: the perfect comparison can be the Bills last week Jerry 536 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 2: Jones when he couldn't pronounce Micah Parson's name, I mean, 537 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 2: you think about the ebbs and flows of all the 538 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: ownership groups across the league, and we have not only 539 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: the wealthiest owners at our back, we also have maybe 540 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: the most professional and classy owners. But there was a 541 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: question at the ferry into the press conference that I 542 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: wanted to make sure we got to before we got 543 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: out of here, where he was asked about his role 544 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: in football decision making and listen would it'd be understandable 545 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: if you're multi billion dollar owner, you're owning a professional team. 546 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: If I got to put. 547 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: Myself as a football fan in the ownership of a team, 548 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: you bet your ass, I'm gonna be in there, like, Hey, 549 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: I want to over know what we're doing. 550 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell tell me what can. 551 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: I can I for my two cents, I think this 552 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: player shill get It's a Kid of the Candy story. 553 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: It's in the dream, right, Like what we do here 554 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: is all pretend. Like we get to we're talking about 555 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: the team, we're talking about on the field and all 556 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: that stuff. 557 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: But it's all pretend. It's all for fun. He can 558 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: actually do it. 559 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like this ownership group doesn't have the 560 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: typical ego. 561 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: They don't. 562 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 3: Did you get from owners They don't, And they're the 563 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 3: richest owners in the National Football League. 564 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: They could lean on the scales. 565 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: Like nobody absolutely, and they're not. 566 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 2: And instead, this is what he says when he's asked 567 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: about his role in football decision making. 568 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, my style is more to probe and ask lots 569 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 5: of questions, trying not to be in a position of 570 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: needing to make any final decisions on you know, these 571 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 5: type of football decisions. But we've got an open dialogue. 572 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: I've talked to talk to those guys every day. 573 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 5: If we've got a critical decision we're making, we're going 574 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 5: to we're going to talk about it. But you know, 575 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 5: if the two of them agree on something and recommend 576 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 5: to be pretty unlikely that I'd ever overrule that. So 577 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 5: the approach, I think it's it's working really well. And 578 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 5: again it starts with the two of them having a 579 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 5: lot of trust in each other, and they each have 580 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 5: a deep expertise and set of experiences, and that enables 581 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 5: us to draw on that. 582 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: Can you imagine Jerry Jones ever saying something like that, No, 583 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: I can't. Can you imagine the owner of the Buffalo Bills. 584 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: I mean, so we go down the list of ownerships 585 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 2: where they want to be heavy handed in so many 586 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: things because they're fans. 587 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, this ownership group has been smart about that from 588 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: the very beginning. And a lot of these owners that 589 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: are buying teams don't really know much about football. In fact, 590 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: pretty much in just about our by case, certainly don't 591 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: know as much as the coach knows, as the GM knows. 592 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 3: These guys came in and just handed the keys to 593 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: Sean Payton, which is what they should have done. Sean 594 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: Payton knows. And at the same time, they're getting an 595 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 3: education on football and how this all works. And as 596 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 3: the years go by, maybe they will take a little 597 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 3: more of an active role. But I think they're doing 598 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: the exact right thing they should be doing right now. 599 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: Just such a breath of fresh air. And the fact is, 600 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 2: I know we I already knew that, like if you 601 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: heard him talk before, but it was one of those 602 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: like having the experience of the Bills last week and 603 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: having him jump into the middle of things and ripping 604 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: the refs and talking about, well, Keon Coleman wasn't wasn't 605 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: this GM's pick. 606 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: He was just going along with this. It was the 607 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: guy we just fired. 608 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: We're blaming everything that is ever bad that has happened 609 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: with this team on the coach we just fired, like 610 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: such an embarrassment, Like if you're a Bills fan, you're 611 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: already reeling from that, and then you have this is 612 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: our own this is our leadership that is going to 613 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: lead us into the future. 614 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? 615 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: And it said we're treated to that, We're treated to no, 616 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: we let the football people make these decisions, and we'll 617 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: tell you we're gonna be there for him. We're gonna 618 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: support them, we're gonna give them every opportunity to succeed, 619 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: and we're just gonna build this thing around them. 620 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: I was It's not that I needed the comparison, but 621 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was really cool. 622 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: How great is that? Who wouldn't want to work under 623 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: those conditions anywhere? I don't care what type of job 624 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: you have. You could be working in a factory, but 625 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: who wouldn't want to work under those conditions where your 626 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 3: owners are like, hey man, we're here to support you. 627 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: You tell us what you need. We're going to give 628 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: you everything, every tool you think you need to be successful. 629 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: Give us a list. That doesn't happen too often. 630 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 2: I would even know what Ben looks like smiling, Hi, Ben, 631 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: this is me smiling? That went, Oh Ben, Yeah, I 632 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: have a smirk. I don't have a smile. I was 633 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: a smirk. 634 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 6: Yeah that's fair, I mean I'll laugh, you know, Yeah, funny, 635 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 6: I've seen you smile before. 636 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: I don't. 637 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't smile on photos or any that kind of 638 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: stuff either. 639 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: So that's true. Now that you mentioned that it's a 640 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: little awkward. You you kind of revel in the dark 641 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: cloud a bit. 642 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, somebody's got to Yeah, I mean yeah, 643 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 6: bring balance to the You do that for the rest 644 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 6: I advise myself for the for the rest of you. 645 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 3: Thank you, Ben Thankyels just do too much for me, 646 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 3: you really do. 647 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 7: I'm just I'm so humble, the humblest, really ironically bragging 648 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: about my humility right now. The light needs the dark. 649 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 7: That's really what this is. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, yeah. 650 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: The congratulations by the way, uh Todd PALLISERA moments ago, 651 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: the NFL has added two members to the Competition Committee, 652 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel and Sean Payton. They've actually both been on 653 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: the competition committee before, but when they took their year off, 654 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: they were not on the competition committee anymore. So this 655 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: is the first time that Sean Payton has been back 656 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: on the competition committee since being. 657 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: With the Broncos. 658 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: All right, that's good and very able to just played 659 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: against each other. 660 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: I wonder for Sean, both great coaches. 661 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: Yesterday was was discussing how he misses when they used 662 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: to do measurements like now it's so much of it 663 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: to the digital stuff for the chip and all that stuff. 664 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: But it's like he wanted a measurement on that fourth 665 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: down call before he because he wanted the extra time. 666 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: So I wonder if he's gonna be. 667 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: Like, hey, can we go back to to You know, 668 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: I understand we're doing a lot more with lasers, but 669 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: I missed the measurements. 670 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm miss being able to do that. Yeah, Sean Payton's 671 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: gonna bring the index card back. Oh my god, can 672 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: you imagine. 673 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: That first first three, five five index card back and 674 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: walk in with it. 675 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: It's a Jean Stereotors. 676 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 6: Carl Jeffers old school baby. 677 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean they're you know, you know, nothing wrong with 678 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: old school, but both guys. Both guys are I think 679 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: some of the best coaches in the league. 680 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: And again, people were giving me a hard time because 681 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: I was saying a bunch of nice things about Mike 682 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: Frabel in the post game. I gotta say, man, I 683 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: never understood why Tennessee moved on from him. You see, 684 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: such a good coach, and he also knows the rules. 685 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Like he's not just a meath heead. 686 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: No, he's a rules hawk. He's a rule I don't 687 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: want him and Belichick were troll at each other. Yes, 688 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: with the penalties. The penalty kept you pedally, I'm not 689 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: accepting it. So Belichick deliberately committed. 690 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 6: Another penalty and he didn't accept it, and there was 691 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 6: just troll at each other. 692 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: And then the third quarter of a random football game. 693 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: What do you say, not just a meathead? Did you 694 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: have another coach in mind that is just a meathead? 695 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: That's a good question. 696 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 5: One. 697 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: Well, but I say that because you know his former linebacker. 698 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: Right, I thought you were thinking maybe a Dan Campbell, well. 699 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Ankle bier. What is an cat bier? 700 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: He could kind of be in that conversation, but he 701 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: I give him more credit than that. Okay, I just 702 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: wonder he came across as a meat head. Yes, coach 703 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: and a fan me too. There's a lot to like 704 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: about Dan Campbell, and he wears a lot of his 705 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: emotions on his sleeve. 706 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 3: I like that. 707 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: I think I think the players respond to it. But 708 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: I was saying more as an he could be just 709 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: like a tough guy football former football player, tough guy, 710 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: former linebacker, right like Singletary, Yeah, jee glass kind of 711 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: guy onetheade. 712 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 5: There. 713 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, what Schottenheimer, Marty. They probably would disagree with that. 714 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: But I don't know about Schottenheimer. Marty. 715 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 5: No. 716 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: But I loved this topic because I'm a fan of meatheads. 717 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 6: Tony, he took the whole team out, they dug a grave, 718 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 6: and they buried a football. 719 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a meathead. 720 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: That's pretty much. Love the finishing. 721 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: I love it.