1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Dave is off today. Dave's not here, so are you 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: ready for that grant? 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: But we'll of course check in with him next week 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: as we get ready for the Broncos and Chargers. But 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: what helped to react to last night's game and sort 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: of gets prepared for all that we had? Out to 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: the Kwa Komaspurit Health Hotline, I'm bringing a friend of 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: the program, Parker Gabriel with the Denver Post. 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Parker, good afternoon, Happy holidays, sir. How are you. 10 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm doing well, Ryan, Happy holidays to you too. How 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: are you? 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, man, I'm doing great. You know, kind 13 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: of late night, I think for everybody. 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: But we're we're here, and we're obviously still breaking down 15 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: the season, which has been a very good one. What 16 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: was the locker room last night? That's kind of what 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: I wanted to start, is you know it felt like 18 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: when I was in the locker room this last week, 19 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: or I guess a couple days ago, now that it 20 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: was kind of a focused, like intention about things. They 21 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 2: were not happy with how they played against Jacksonville. They 22 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 2: were looking for a bounce back performance. Did you get 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: the sense that they had a relief of how they 24 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: played against the Chiefs, or you get a sense that 25 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: they were like, no, we're still very much dialed into 26 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 2: what's going on. 27 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think both, but it definitely was not. I 28 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 3: know there was. I know, it's, you know, a close 29 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: game against a bad team that's injured beyond belief and 30 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: playing thirsteon quarterback and all that, and and you know 31 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: you had to ward off, you had a score to 32 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 3: take the leader a minute forty five left and then 33 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: ward off a drive down at least to the fringe 34 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: of scoring territory. But there was none of that. Really, 35 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: none of that seemed to face the guys last night 36 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 3: in the locker room, and it was a happy team, 37 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: like they know they know at this point in the season. 38 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: I mean, Sean Payton said it after the game. It 39 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: doesn't have to be aesthetically pleasing. Of course, you might 40 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: like it to be every once in a while, but 41 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be. They won their one win 42 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: away from a division championship and a one seat regardless 43 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: of what happens tomorrow. They could have the division wrapped 44 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: up tomorrow and then play for the one seed against 45 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: the Chargers next weekend. Either way, like this is a 46 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: group that understands that at this point, everything they wants 47 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: in front of him, and you know, it doesn't really 48 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: matter how close it was or how how difficult things 49 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: looked for a lot of last night, like they came 50 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 3: out with a win and this time of hear that's 51 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: what matters. 52 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 53 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: What's your take on the esthetically pleasing conversation? I mean, 54 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: I agree with with coach Peyton on that, and especially 55 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: Thursday night football can be all over the map, but 56 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: in general, there's been quite a few games this season 57 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: that haven't been quote unquote aesthetically pleasing. Is that a 58 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: cause for concern at all for the Broncos as they 59 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: had in the postseason, Yeah, a little bit. 60 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I think two things can be true at 61 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: the same time. One is just you know Sean Payton 62 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: very clearly. I think we've learned this about him by now. 63 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: It's a game plan league, it's a matchup league, it's 64 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: a week by week league. But Sean Payton, more than 65 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: I think your average to a greater degree than your 66 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: average NFL coach, has a pretty set idea of how 67 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: he wants to navigate each game. So just because it 68 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: didn't look pretty last night, doesn't mean that they can't 69 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 3: play in a different way or play in a more 70 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: efficient way, even against a really good Chargers defense next 71 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: weekend or against you know whoever they get in the 72 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: first playoff game that they playing. Now, all that being said, 73 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: like that's all well and good, but you want to 74 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 3: see complete performances somewhere along the way, and you know, 75 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen some good ones. Green Bay was 76 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: a good one, a really good performance against a really 77 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: good team. But we've also seen, you know, some play 78 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: that leaves something to be desired, Like you're picking this 79 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: when you're thirteen and three, But definitely, I mean there's 80 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: stuff that needs to be cleaned up, and there's stuff 81 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: that probably needs to be executed at a higher level 82 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: if you're going to make like a real deep playoff run. 83 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: And I don't even know if we're going to see 84 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: that against the Chargers. Like I feel like every time 85 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: I asked what do I know about this team, it's that, well, 86 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: they find a way to be clutched in the fourth 87 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: quarter even when things haven't gone their way for most 88 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: of the game, and that becomes their identity. Like we 89 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: are constantly searching for what's the identity. What's the identity. Well, 90 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: identity is they don't play perfect games and they still win. 91 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: And that's where you wonder if that can still pay 92 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: off in the postseason. And at this point, I mean, 93 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: do we really doubt that they can't still find ways 94 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: to win in the postseason if they don't play perfect games. 95 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: Not at all. It's just obviously the margin Feerer. You know, 96 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: you can't you can't mount two fourteen play drives into 97 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: the red zone and kickfield goals against the Chargers or 98 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 3: against the playoff team and expect that that's not going 99 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: to come back and bite you. I mean, it almost 100 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: did obviously last night. So there's things that you just 101 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: have to do better. And I don't even I haven't 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: even necessarily Ryan like got the sense over the course 103 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: of this year that as a team that you know, 104 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: the old plays down to the level of their competition, 105 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: charge like that doesn't. It doesn't always feel that way, 106 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: even though they've played close games with some bad teams, 107 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: but they have played well against good teams for the 108 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: most part. Obviously, Jacksonville ran away from them. That happened 109 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: a week after they put away a really talented Green 110 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: Bay team, So there I think we've seen what we 111 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: need to see to believe that they can win in 112 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: the postseason. It's just their style of play this year 113 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: has sort of been, you know, you're gonna have to 114 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: ride the roller coaster for a while before before the 115 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: payoff comes. 116 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: Parker Gabriel joining us here. What's your take on the 117 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: Jacksonville lost? Was that the hey, they finally played a 118 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: team that that was just bad matchup, was that they 119 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: had been feeling a little bit too good about themselves 120 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: for too long and they needed to wake up call. 121 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: What was your takeaway from that loss? 122 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a little bit of everything. 123 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: Like I just think Jacksonville probably deserves a lot of credit. 124 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: They're playing really, really good and frankly, like you know, 125 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: the broadcast had won eleven in a row, which is 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: more than having won five in a row, obviously, but 127 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: I think in the in the weeks leading up to 128 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: that game, Jacksonville probably had been more impressive overall. Obviously, 129 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 3: the Green Bay win was a really good one for Denver, 130 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: but you know, Trent Lawrence just playing it a really 131 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 3: really high level. They've got balance, they can run the football, 132 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: they've got good weapons, sort of like, you know, a 133 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: balanced set of weapons, and then that defense, you know, 134 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: maybe doesn't get a ton of credit, but that's a 135 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: really athletic secondary and a front line that when you 136 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: watch them player, you're like, oh, yeah, all of these 137 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: guys are high draft picks. You know, you got one 138 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars contract up there. So they're that's a 139 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: team that can go, and they're balanced and they're deep 140 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: and all of that. So I don't know, I mean, 141 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: they're they're really good. They're still in the mix for 142 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 3: the one seed. Obviously, they earned a tiebreaker if the 143 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: Broncos lose and things get crazy Week eighteen. Obviously, you know, 144 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: Jacksonvill's put themselves in good positions. So good team. I'd 145 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 3: be very I mean, sign me up. I'd take another. 146 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: I'd take another matchup between those two teams in the playoffs. 147 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would too. 148 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: In fact, with the AFC in general, maybe the Buffalo 149 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: Bills are probably the one team I think almost everybody 150 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: should be afraid of. Is that more or less how 151 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: you feel? Or are there other teams that really impress you? 152 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? And isn't that funny? Like at the end of 153 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: the day, like it all comes back to Josh Allen 154 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: in some way, and it would it would too, you'd 155 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: be saying the same thing about Lamar Jackson or Joe 156 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: Burrow or Patrick Mahomes as he was healthy. Like, it 157 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: doesn't really matter what those teams look like. And obviously 158 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: Buffalo has been playing great for a couple of months now, 159 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: but like, it doesn't matter what it looks like. You 160 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: there's just something daunting about playing those guys in the playoffs, 161 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: the guys that can lead their team, and we haven't 162 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: seen it so much in the playoffs, but that's the 163 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: kind of ball that justin Herbert's playing right now. I 164 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: think he's got to prove he can do that in 165 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 3: the postseason. But you could put him in that group 166 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: of right now, who's a quarterback you don't want to 167 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: see across from you. I mean, he fits that mold too. 168 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: So it's it's Josh Allen in a bunch of upstarts, right. 169 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: I Mean, Pittsburgh's an upstart in the sense that like 170 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: they revamped and they've put together a good year. But Denver, Jacksonville, 171 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: New England, all of these teams weren't in the mix 172 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: in any way, shape or form last year. And now 173 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: they're the ones that are going to be trying to 174 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: make a run at Josh Allen in Buffalo. 175 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: Last couple here for you, Parker, I always appreciate the 176 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 2: time of friend. So you got this game against the Chargers, 177 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: and I guess I want to go to the quarterback 178 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: for a moment here with with bo Nicks and what 179 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: do you feel like he needs to show in that 180 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: game or even in the postseason to change some narratives? 181 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: And maybe there's nothing he can do at this point, 182 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: but what do you feel like there is for the 183 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: next level, the next tier for bow Knicks to show 184 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: where people start to say, Okay, I get it. 185 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I. 186 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 3: Mean obviously if he plays the way he played against 187 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: Green Bay in some of these games, that that would 188 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: go a long way towards sort of changing you know, 189 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: some of the things that gets said about him. Frankly, 190 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 3: at this point, you know there's always going to be 191 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: there's only a few guys in the NFL where the 192 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 3: conversation doesn't come up. I mean, it comes up with 193 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts and and I don't even think necessarily unfairly 194 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: so and the guy just has you know, he's wanted 195 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: to Super Bowl. He's played in all kinds of big games, 196 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: He's won all kinds of big games, and it just 197 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 3: keeps happening. So the conversation is always going to be 198 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: there to some degree. I don't think you can answer 199 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: all of the all of the doubters without just proving 200 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: flatly for years that you're one of a handful of 201 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: the best on the planet. So that's a long way 202 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: off if it ever gets there for bo Nicks. If 203 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: it doesn't, it doesn't mean he can't have a terrific career. 204 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: I just think for him, what what has got him 205 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: this far this season? What has got the Broncos this 206 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: far this season is enough, make plays in winning time, 207 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: be efficient for the most part, take care of the football, 208 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: find a way to move the chains on third down, 209 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: use your legs. And when he does those things, it's 210 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: not always pretty, but somehow, some way, they've ended up 211 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: on the right side of the column. And that's that's 212 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 3: at this point. I mean, like, what more can you 213 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: ask for? I don't think. I don't think asking bo 214 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: Nicks to be something he hasn't been this season is 215 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: the way this team gets through the playoffs. He's going 216 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: to have to play well, obviously, but for him it's 217 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: just about sticking to his strengths, mitigating the weaknesses, and 218 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 3: managing what comes in between. And that's a lot of quarterbacks. 219 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: In the NFL, and it's perfectly said last one. There's 220 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: one concern for you, maybe even a couple. How would 221 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: you rank the say, depth at running back versus some 222 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: of the leaky yardage or maybe even some tough moments 223 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: for the defense in the red zone. Like I get 224 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: asked often, what are the things in the postseason that 225 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: could bite the Broncos the most? And those are the 226 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: ones I usually start with, Is there something else I'm missing? 227 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that's right. You know, the lack of 228 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: takeaways has just been kind of curious this year, and 229 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: that's one of those things where if you don't take 230 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: the ball away in the playoffs, you're just you're going 231 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: to have a hard time so that they don't need 232 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 3: they don't need a ton I heard someone say this 233 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 3: about the playoffs in baseball. You don't have to hit 234 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: a ton of homers in the playoffs in baseball, but 235 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 3: you got to hit big homers. And that's that's kind 236 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: of the takeaways thing in the playoffs in the NFL, 237 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: you don't have to create three a game, but you're 238 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: going to need one or two in a timely moment 239 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: somewhere along the way if you're going to be the 240 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 3: team that makes the run. So I think you're spot on. 241 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: There's just no way around the fact that the running 242 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 3: game efficiency has dried up quite a bit since JK. 243 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: Dobbins got hurt. They went from four point nine and 244 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: carry to three point eight to carry one hundred and 245 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 3: thirty five yards a game to ninety yards a game 246 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: like it just it's different. Doesn't mean they can't win, 247 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: but it's different. Probably have to be a little bit 248 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: more bon Nix. I'm interested to see if in an 249 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 3: all for all the Marvels game in Week eighteen or 250 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: in the postseason, if they dialed Boon Nicks runner up 251 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 3: a little bit, and then yeah, I mean that, you know, 252 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: run game, leaky, yardage, takeaways. Those three things are where 253 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: this team struggles at this point. And if you get 254 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: two of the three going the right direction, you're looking 255 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: pretty good. 256 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: I completely agree very quickly on JK. Dobbins. 257 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: What did you make of Sean Payton about a month 258 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: ago a little less than a month ago, intimating that 259 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: maybe the timeline is a little more favorable for Dobbins. 260 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: That was funny he did that, and a question I 261 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: asked him about Drew Sanders of all people, so clearly 262 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: he clearly wanted to mention it. I don't know. I mean, 263 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 3: you know, when it happened, we were here in Super Bowl. 264 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: Dobbins has told people he thinks he's going to be 265 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: back to the playoffs. I mean, we saw him in 266 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: the locker room. He was around this past week. I 267 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: don't know how often he's been around or not. That 268 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 3: was the first time I'd seen him since he got hurt. 269 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: So he's around. You know, he's working behind the scenes 270 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: trying to get back. I don't I just honestly don't 271 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: know what the odds are early in the playoffs. But 272 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: he's been pushing for that, and you know, Sean Payton's 273 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: dangling it out there. So it'd be awfully interesting even 274 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: if he was back on the practice field, let's say, 275 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: going into a division round or something. Whether that, whether 276 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: he could actually play, would then be another conversation. But 277 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: I had something to worth worth watching over the next 278 00:12:59,400 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. 279 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: Doubt Parker really appreciate the time, man, I know it's 280 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: along a couple of days for you. Happy holidays, my friend, 281 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: and really appreciate it. 282 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. 283 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: Sounds good. 284 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: Parker Gabriel does a wonderful job, wonderful rider and uh yeah, 285 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: I've had the opportunity to host a show with him 286 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: as well, So really good stuff. 287 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: Makes you give him a follow on Twitter Parker J. 288 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: Gabriel, So that that would be an interesting development, right, 289 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: whatever you think about the run game now, and I 290 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: think we're starting to see RJ. Harvey really blossom here 291 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: for the team. I mean the amount of broken tackles 292 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: he had last night. A couple of weeks now, he's 293 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: rounding into form as a guy that's going to be 294 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: a legitimate weapon for this team from now to into 295 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: the future. And I'm not saying that you can ride 296 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: this entire thing or put all of your hopes and 297 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: dreams about the running game on RJ. 298 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Harvey. 299 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: I think we can put a lot on him, and 300 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: it seems to be he is by far the best 301 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: option they have there in the backfield. But boy, to 302 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: have a guy that can get through the short yardage 303 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: like JK. 304 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: Dobbins. 305 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: The level of consistency that he brings, if you can 306 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: somehow get him into the postseason at some point, maybe 307 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: not all the way to the super Bowl, but if 308 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: you can, if he can be there for say the 309 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: AFC Championship game, or maybe maybe if you get to 310 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: buy I don't know. That was interesting though, Parker bringing 311 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: that up specifically, that the Broncos media didn't ask about JK. 312 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Dobbins. 313 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: That was Sean wanting to get that out there, and 314 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 2: I don't know why, but he wanted us to think 315 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: about it. And I can't stop thinking about it because 316 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: it's another dimension to this offense that they've been missing 317 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: for quite some time. And it was such a fluky 318 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: moment too, right it was during the Raiders game. It 319 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: was hip drop tackle. He might still be playing right 320 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: now if it weren't for that and the one two 321 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: punch of Dobbins and Harvey oh Man. 322 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: That is. 323 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: A lot of the questions about the Broncos offense that 324 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: would be surrounding this team right now. I'm sure there 325 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: would still be some questions about bo Nicks, maybe some 326 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: of the receiving depth and quote unquote inconsistencies with that. 327 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: But if you can lean on a run game like 328 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: they had or could have now now that you've seen RJ. 329 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: Harvey build confidence over the last month, if you can 330 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: build on a run game with Dobbinson Harvey in the postseason, 331 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: and the defense can kind of solve a couple of 332 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: their issues with the leaky yardage slash some of this 333 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: red zone stuff that's been creeping up over the last 334 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, this team could go to Hotel with anybody, 335 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: quite literally anybody. The Bills are the one team, though 336 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: for me it could be for different For you guys 337 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: hit me up five to six, six nights, there are 338 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: Kae kamas Berdal text line, is there anybody else in 339 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: the AFC that would concern you? 340 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: The Chargers could be in that conversation. 341 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: And an interesting little note here because and I think 342 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: the Broncos are gonna win next week, but if they 343 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: don't win that game, they can fall all the way 344 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 2: to the sixth seed, likely because again they own the 345 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: tiebreaker with the Texans, assuming the Texans get in, so 346 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: they could fall to the sixth seed and at that 347 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: point maybe heading to LA to play the Chargers again 348 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: in the wild card round. How weird is that? So 349 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: that reality exists if they can't beat the Chargers. Next week, 350 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: they play the Chargers again, but in LA now, and 351 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: some people would say, well, that doesn't worry me too 352 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: much because the Broncos played them tough. 353 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: They're in LA earlier in the year. 354 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: The Broncos at this point, I think they are a 355 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: better team than they were earlier in the year. So 356 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: maybe you like your chances for the Broncos to go 357 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: on the road and in LA is not the most 358 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: daunting home field as we know so far, is not 359 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: a daunting place for opposing teams to play. In fact, 360 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: there tends to be a lot of Broncos fans at 361 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: those games, so that would be one way we'd sell it. 362 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: But that exists as a possibility if the Broncos can't 363 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: win this game again. On the other side of it, 364 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: if you win, if you win this game, and you 365 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: have the one seed, and you have the division, and 366 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: you get a chance to rest up, and maybe you 367 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: get a couple of guys back. Now, you're obviously not 368 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: gonna be a Wattenberg back, You're not gonna get Brandon 369 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: Jones back, but maybe Dobbins. Wouldn't that be a shot 370 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 2: in the arm heading into the playoffs. To find out 371 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: that JK. Dobbins is actually ready to go be phenomenal. 372 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: We can dream when. 373 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: We come back. Voice of the Broncos Dave Logan and 374 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: quarterback Bo Nicks. We'll get to that next. 375 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: There are a couple of really interesting moments in that 376 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: game before we hear from Bo Nicks, who joined Dave 377 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: after the game. You had the off sides penalty, and 378 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: we found out after the fact that, well, first of all, 379 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: here's what it sounded like, miners moved. 380 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: I don't know that Kansas City jumped off sides. Miners 381 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 4: feels like the Chiefs were in the neutral zone. Now, 382 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 4: this is going to depend on the snap. R. J. 383 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: Harvey was the Wildcat quarterback. 384 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 5: Five I left the goal the first penalty of the game, 385 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 5: and they get Chris Jones in the neutral zone, and 386 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 5: you know what, that is exactly the right call. 387 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: That was the first penalty that was near the end 388 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter. And then the only other penalty 389 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: they got was a delay of game on offense on 390 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: their final drive, the only penalties the entire game for 391 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs played a flawless game. Hey, you 392 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: have a thirstring quarterback and then that makes it all 393 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: the sense of the world. Play a flawless game for 394 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, no mistakes. Some might argue that 395 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: that sounds impossible, but it happened quite literally. 396 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: Here's Chris Jones after the game. 397 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 6: I know, I know, I know, yeah, I could have 398 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 6: said points. I felt like the guard moved, but yeah, 399 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 6: I critical situation. 400 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: I gotta be better. 401 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 6: I'm gonna beat myself up about that one. 402 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 3: So close. 403 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 6: I know it, man, I know it, I know it. 404 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: We're right there. 405 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: It's been that season for Chris Jones and the Chiefs. 406 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: Sean Payton said after the game that the intention was 407 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: to take the delay of game, that they mean there's 408 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: a hope there, and then Quinn Minors afterwards said that 409 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a baited thing, and of 410 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: course you have nothing to lose there. 411 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: If for some reason you get even a. 412 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: Sense that a defensive lineman like Chris Jones or anybody 413 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: kind of gets into the neutral zone, you just go 414 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: because it's gonna be. 415 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: Five yards either way. 416 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: So either delay a game or maybe you have an 417 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: opportunity to gamble a bit there and you get the 418 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: off sides, and obviously it was a huge play le 419 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: Broncos ended up punching in a touchdown. Probably was the 420 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: difference in the game, because the Chiefs offense moved right 421 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: down the field into field goal range. They could have 422 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: tied it up there sent the game to overtime. You're 423 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 2: grateful that it didn't go to overtime for the Broncos, who, again, 424 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 2: as Dave pointed out earlier in the game or earlier 425 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: in the show today, the defense only saw forty two 426 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: total snaps from the Chiefs offense. That's very valuable in 427 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: their rest to get ready for this Chargers game coming up. 428 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: But what a big moment. There's a lot of big 429 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: moments in that game, but the Broncos answered the bell 430 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: at every single one. They found a way to make 431 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: the right play and get the dub. Dave Logan with 432 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: Voice the Broncos, Dave Logan with bow Knicks. 433 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: After the game, we. 434 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: Had down to the locker room talk with the starting 435 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: quarterback of the Broncos bon Knicks Boats. Dave Logan, Congratulations, 436 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 4: you finished the game twenty six to thirty eight for 437 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 4: one eight two, a touchdown and an interception. But that 438 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: last drive, talk a little bit about that. You guys 439 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: are tied at thirteen, and you put together an excellent 440 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 4: drive to get that touchdown in the last couple of minutes. 441 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, we did. 442 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 8: We completed some Keith downs and that went over the 443 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 8: middle of that l J short of the biggest one. 444 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 8: You know, that was a tough third down and long, 445 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 8: but we did a good job of hitting a great protection, 446 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 8: hit it over the middle, and then we finished it 447 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 8: with a good RJ touchdown. 448 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: You look like, well, you didn't look like you ran 449 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 4: the ball effectively tonight. You you pulled that thing down 450 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: and use your legs a lot. Was that just play 451 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: by play sort of the feel of the game, or 452 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 4: did you know going in you might do that. 453 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 8: Well, this team has historically, you know, to move the football, 454 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 8: you got to pull it down and run some And 455 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 8: I think it was just you know, play by play. 456 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 8: It was rhythm of the game, the flow of it. 457 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: And uh, there was. 458 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 8: A you know, the touchdown was a design run and 459 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 8: that one got in, but most of them were just scrambled. 460 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: Joe's last thing. 461 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 4: You've got to have a weekend now to kind of 462 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: sit back and. 463 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: See what others do. 464 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 4: But now it's back to work in the season, basically 465 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: at least the regular season comes down to one game, 466 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 4: one home game for you guys to decide kind of 467 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 4: what path you'll take. 468 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, no doubt, it's one last one. We gotta take 469 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 8: care of business. But you know it's going to be 470 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 8: against a really good football team, so we gotta handle 471 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 8: business as best we can. 472 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: And you know it all comes down to this. Yep, 473 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it both. 474 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: Thank you you bet bo Nicks in the locker room. 475 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: You can find all the postgame interviews that one with 476 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 2: bow Knicks, along with the others Jodah Ellis and I say, 477 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: Malcolm Roach. They're all on demand at Kwacolorado dot com 478 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: five six six nights, zeros or Kwekoma. 479 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: Spirit Health text line. 480 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: Not going to have a lot of offensive pedalties if 481 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: they don't have the ball. 482 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: The Chiefs really now never had the ball. 483 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: Well, maybe a little bit of something to that, but 484 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 2: all we're about defensive pedalties. There's plenty of other opportunities, 485 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: and I could point to several moments in the game 486 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: where a call could have gone either way the Broncos 487 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: and maybe we I mean, I want to say he 488 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: grounds about the officials, especially after the game. I just 489 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 2: thought it was curious under the circumstances. And this is 490 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 2: something that tends to follow the Chiefs is they do 491 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: get the benefit of calls. And here you have this 492 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: game at Kansas City, Bill Vinovich with his history with 493 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: Sean Payton, and suddenly the Chiefs played a flawless game. 494 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure about that. 495 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: Ryan as a life, as a long time Broncos fan's 496 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,239 Speaker 2: fun and exciting just to out the Broncos playing for 497 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: something this time of year, after not making the playoffs 498 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: since twenty fifteen, after making the wild Card last year, 499 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: the Broncos have far exceeded expectations this year. For all 500 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 2: the criticism about the Broncos nationally, I think it's really 501 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 2: cool that they're having such a good season and playing 502 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 2: for something this Christmas. Robin brush Well said Rob a 503 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: couple more texts here. I wouldn't sleep by the forty 504 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: nine ers coming out of the NFC. I wouldn't either, 505 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: Like I said, the three NFC West teams would be 506 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 2: the most concerning teams. We were talking earlier, obviously doing 507 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: our preview week seventeen. We're both very high on Saple. 508 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: I think they're completely legit. But for me, there's we 509 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: talked about Coach of the Year candidates Kyle Shanahan with 510 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: what he's been able to manage with the amount of 511 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: injuries that they've dealt with, and I'm not the first 512 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: to say that is truly remarkable, and in that division 513 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: to get to eleven wins in that division with the 514 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: injuries they're dealing with is amazing. Nothing shorter from and 515 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: they are in the mix for the one seed. 516 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: Now, so. 517 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: You missed your quarterback for half the season and you 518 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: get to eleven wins. 519 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: Come on, now, that's coaching excellence. 520 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: Can't convince me otherwise, no text, I will say Forsyth, 521 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: if I have his name right, was just was very 522 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: good at center? Was that just one game thing? Or 523 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: do you think we'll see a measurable drop off? You know, 524 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: I've liked Alex Forsyth, and I do think they could 525 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: be better in the run with Alex Forsyth. Some of 526 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: the past pro stuff is what we're gonna continuing to monitor. 527 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: But that's some really nice moments in the run with 528 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: Jelil mcloughson. Last night, his big run, I want to 529 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: say it was a fifteen yard run, was a lot 530 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: because of the seal block that Alex Forsyth had there. 531 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: So. 532 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: Hopefully you see an improvement there. I don't know if 533 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: it's much. I mean, again, you go from a center 534 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: who they just gave a massive contract to versus your 535 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: backup center, that should be a bit of a drop off. 536 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: So Luke Wattenberg is the guy they believe in is 537 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: going to be the center for this team for the 538 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: next several years. You should believe there's a drop off, 539 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's as a significant one 540 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 2: as maybe they like to believe or otherwise. I think 541 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: the one thing with Luke Wadberg is just the experience, 542 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: the time on task he's been with this starting group. 543 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: They've had a very good year, multiple Pro Bowlers and 544 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: eventually All Pros along that offensive line. 545 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: It's been a good offensive line. You don't really want 546 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: to with the chemistry of it. 547 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: So I like lou Wattenberg, well, Luke Wattenberg because of 548 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: the fit he has with. 549 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: The offensive line. 550 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: But I've I've always liked Alex Forsyth as an option 551 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: there for the Broncos if things didn't work out, but 552 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 2: they are he's their guy. They don't have to go 553 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: into free agency and looking for a center or the draft. 554 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: I think that was ultimately an excellent call Max Crosby. 555 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, Grant, I'll bring 556 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 2: you in on this, but Max Crosby was told that 557 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: he has a knee injury. 558 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: I love how this works at this time of here. 559 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: Hey, you got a knee injury and we want you 560 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: to sit for the remaining two games. He reportedly left 561 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: the team facility due to a disagreement about it. Now, 562 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: he had been asked, I don't know if you saw 563 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: the sound earlier this week, but he was asked about, Hey, 564 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: you know, you guys are kind of. 565 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: Out of it. 566 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: You know you worry about the draft pick, right, And 567 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: then he was like, I don't worry about any that. 568 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: I worry about being the best defensive end in the world. 569 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. 570 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: It's a weird deal, right, because a player like that, 571 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: who's as talented as he and even though he's been 572 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: on bad teams for a while, he plays as though 573 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: he's playing for the super Bowl every year. You appreciate 574 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 2: Max Crosby's work ethic, but there's been a lot of 575 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: wonder if the Raiders might move on only in part 576 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: because you're kind of wasting the prime of his career 577 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: at this point and you're not a couple players away 578 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 2: from being a contender. Maybe they get the right quarterback potentially, 579 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: but yeah, Max Crosby. Do you think we've seen the 580 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: last of Max Crosby as a Raider? 581 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 7: You know, through all the turmoil that he's gone through 582 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 7: and has time there, and none of it really is 583 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 7: own doing. I think maybe yes, he's stuck through everything 584 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 7: with them, all the different coaching changes, them not hiring 585 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 7: the coaches that he wanted them to hire, and for 586 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 7: a competitor like him to be told, hey, you're shutting 587 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 7: it down the rest of the year so we can 588 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 7: have a better draft pick and a better chance at 589 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 7: losing these last two games. He may walk, he may 590 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 7: be done. Like I wouldn't blame him at all, and hey, 591 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 7: maybe he wants to be a Bronco. 592 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: I've always been a big fan of him as a player. 593 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: I mean, my goodness, hey, star of. 594 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 7: The mac best football conference in college football. 595 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: So the Giants are actually favored in this game by 596 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: one and a half. We went through a pick him 597 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: earlier Raiders. Giants the basically the loser of this is 598 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: going to have the number one overall pick. 599 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 7: But do you like in that game? I like the 600 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 7: Giants to win, to win, Yeah, I do too. Raiders 601 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 7: get the number one pick, that's. 602 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: Kind of wild. I guess that would mean for Dandle. 603 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 7: Mondz is probably going to be a Raider, the most 604 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 7: Unraider Raider ever. 605 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: I know. 606 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 7: He's way too nice of a guy, way too nice, 607 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 7: well spoken, cares about his family. 608 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: Just seems like the yeah, just most genuine as shucks, nerdy, nerdy. 609 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: He can play football. He can play Although there are 610 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: some I don't know what this thing. We'll get into 611 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: the pre draft process. 612 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: There are some out there that wonder about his quote 613 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 2: unquote upside if you will, And I think somebody that gets. 614 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: Over Bonix is a good example of that. 615 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: Right. 616 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: People said the same thing about bo saying, I don't 617 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: know if he's topped out or if he is just 618 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: like Diet Jared Goff, that's what they keep calling Fernando Mendoza. 619 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: Hey, Jared Goff is turning the heck of a career. Yeah, 620 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: other than the other day. Yeah, I mean he's you know, 621 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: led a team to a Super Bowl yep. 622 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 7: One that went to the NFC Championship with a franchise 623 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 7: that hadn't been there. I mean, I would take Jared 624 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 7: Goff as my starting quarterback for a lot of franchises, 625 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 7: not the Broncos. Now that we have bo Nicks. My 626 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 7: two cents on the whole draft process. Tools are way overrated. 627 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 7: The mental capacity for an NFL quarterback is the most 628 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 7: valuable tool in my mind, and that's why you're so 629 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 7: happy you have a guy like bow Knicks who has 630 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 7: the athletic ability plus the mental capacity to learn everything 631 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 7: and not make the same mistakes twice. 632 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: Well said my friend. All Right, that doesn't for me 633 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: here on a Friday. 634 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: Thank you guys as always for the wonderful comments, the 635 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: interactions on the text line, Twitter, etc. Appreciate all of you. 636 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: Happy holidays to everybody. Enjoy your weekend. We'll be back 637 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 2: on Monday at three o'clock. Grant, I appreciate you, wonderful 638 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: job as always, BCT Next