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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Tuesday. Welcome in. It's the latest edition

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Speaker 2: it is always Skyline time. It's a busy day here

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Speaker 2: on Cincy three sixty. We have a trade deadline that

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Speaker 2: is rapidly approaching. The Bengals already active in the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that with Logan Wilson going to the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. We'll talk about what it could potentially mean

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Speaker 2: for Trey Hendrickson, Cam Taylor britt anyone else on the

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Speaker 2: list that may be a viable option for another team.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss that in length this afternoon The first college

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Speaker 2: football playoff rankings are out tonight, Austin and I will

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Speaker 2: mock up our own college football playoff rankings. We will

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Speaker 2: dive into what Zach Taylor had to say yesterday and

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Speaker 2: his Monday afternoon press conference. Rick Patino and Wes Miller

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Speaker 2: Xavier and you see both underway. Last night, Xavier had

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Speaker 2: to sweat one out at home against Marist. You see

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Speaker 2: was dominant over Western Carolina. You will hear the statements

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Speaker 2: that each of those coaches made. Are you forgetting anyone

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Speaker 2: after last night's win? Ohio State? No? Northern Kentucky? Yes,

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Speaker 2: Norse up baby.

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Speaker 3: We also have Darren Horns, so holy a statement after

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Speaker 3: a big win over UC Claremont. So that's another victory

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Speaker 3: for NKU over UC.

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Speaker 2: So what we'll essentially do is we'll talk a little

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Speaker 2: bit of the round ball in our number three. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll take it around to what the local coaches had

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Speaker 2: to say about their wins.

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Speaker 3: Which do you think we'll take? We'll take Betts. Which

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Speaker 3: coach do you think opening statement went the longest?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, I will say Darren Horn?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you vote for Darren Horn, Feel free to vote, Okay, anyone.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about Colin. You think we'll talk about everything

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Speaker 2: else that's going on in the National Football League in

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Speaker 2: just a moment, and we have to have a football conversation,

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Speaker 2: not like an actual not like talk ball, but we're

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Speaker 2: actually going to talk about the football that's used in

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Speaker 2: the games. Whether you're kicking a kicking ball or whether

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Speaker 2: need to know about going into games. So we have

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Speaker 2: to have that discussion today. It's not a discussion I

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Speaker 3: In Ada, Ohio, but we'll have to talk about a

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Speaker 3: Wilson football factory afternoon.

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Speaker 2: As to what's going on around the National Football League,

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Speaker 2: Logan Wilson has been dealt to the Dallas Cowboys. If

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Speaker 2: you watched any of the Cowboys last night, I know

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Speaker 2: that the Bengal defense is not good. That's not a

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Speaker 2: good defense as well. The Cowboys have acquired Logan Wilson

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Speaker 2: in a trade with the Cincinnati Bengals. Jerry Jones said,

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Speaker 2: for what we need right now, he can come in

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I have the audio Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 3: like Jerry has to say. So this was earlier this

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Speaker 3: morning on one five to three, the fan Jerry Jones

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Speaker 3: was asked what did the Cowboys like about Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 4: His ability to see it. Some people would think about

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Speaker 4: He probably has a little bit of that and when

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Speaker 3: Okay, I love Jerry Joe gosh Man, I just wanted

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Speaker 2: I like how he was really trying to dive into

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Speaker 2: He just well, I don't want to get into that.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones is a fascinating human being who has done

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Speaker 3: He is not a good general manager. He knows how

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Speaker 2: He knows how to get in the gaps.

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Speaker 3: I've always heard that him and Mike Brown don't really

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Speaker 3: that they did a trade, made a little trade.

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Speaker 2: Very nice anyway. Logan Wilson is a Dallas cowboy, and

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Speaker 2: in return, the Bengals have received a seventh round draft pick.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any problem with the value in return?

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Speaker 3: I thought they would get a little bit more than

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Speaker 3: they should probably be open to settling for a third.

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Speaker 2: But can they find their own?

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Speaker 3: Kyle Manungai A little bit disappointing that they only got

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Speaker 3: there have been some other good seventh round picks in

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Speaker 2: You ever heard of TJ. Huschman Zada? Yeah, he was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now the last ten? What about Clinton McDonald? He

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Speaker 2: Well, let me give you these names because these are

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Speaker 2: the last ten seventh round picks of the don't do this, Audentate? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Rod Taylor? Who, Logan Woodside? Yeah? Jordan Brown?

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Speaker 3: What about Clayton Fedulum, Marcus Bailey, Okay, Wyatt Hubert he

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Speaker 3: to tell Nott Lee. Everybody seems to think he's the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: It is impossible to grade a trade before you know

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Speaker 3: Now a lot of people are saying, oh, the Bengals

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Speaker 3: just save a bunch of money. They don't save a

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Speaker 3: next year. It opens up some space. Yes, not ridiculous,

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Speaker 3: it is I think more than anything, Hey, we respect

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Speaker 3: Logan Wilson. We're going to give him an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: go play uh in Dallas, and more than anything, we're

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Speaker 3: freeing up that room from any of those you know,

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Speaker 2: Some other NFL news, tough news for the Chargers, as

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Speaker 2: Joe alt is getting season ending ankle surgery team that

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Speaker 2: again just feels like their season can never get get started.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens of Baltimore have acquired Draymont Jones. Yeah, in

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Speaker 3: Did you see the condition for that pick? So if

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Speaker 3: Draymont Jones has at least two sacks the rest of

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Speaker 3: the season and Baltimore makes the playoffs, Tennessee gets a

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Speaker 3: fourth round pick instead of the fifth.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't mind that. Yeah, I don't mind adding

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Speaker 3: Let's rooting for Baltimore then to get to the playoffs

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Speaker 3: so that they lose a fourth round pick.

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Speaker 2: Sure, have we reached that.

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Speaker 3: Point where now we're rooting for draft stock and projection

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Speaker 2: That's where we're already at. Not ideal. Another move, The

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders are trading Jacoby Myers to the Jacksonville

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Speaker 3: The Jags have done a lot of work to try

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Speaker 3: thirty nine million dollar deal for Gabe Davis, one year

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Speaker 2: There are three names that folks are still looking at today.

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Speaker 2: the trade deadline continues on this afternoon. What else do

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Speaker 2: we have but we expecting any surprises in the college

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to give too much.

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Speaker 3: In I think you should always expect a surprise the

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Speaker 3: first initial you know, the initial college football playoff rankings.

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Speaker 3: Every year there's a surprise, it's something that doesn't match

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Speaker 2: Mentioned last night college basketball got underway, and not just

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Speaker 2: here locally. Some big debuts last night. How about all

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Speaker 2: the talk with some of these super freshmen around college

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Speaker 2: basketball has ignored for the most part, Coepete, who is

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Speaker 2: a freshman at Arizona, He did something last night that

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Speaker 2: we've not seen in quite some time. Coopete for Arizona,

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Speaker 2: was dominant thirty points, seven rebounds, five assists. He became

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Speaker 2: aj Debanza is the other All American that committed to BYU.

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Speaker 2: because the tensions have to be high right now. Speaking

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Speaker 3: It is a practice for first and second year players only. Yep,

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Speaker 3: Jermaine Burton not there due to an illness according to

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Speaker 2: I saw Joe Burrow post. Oh Burrow posted, I didn't

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Speaker 3: Joe and quite some time, years.

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Speaker 2: Quite some time. We have a lot to get to.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with a trade deadline conversation around Trey Hendricks.

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Speaker 2: We'll take your phone calls five one, three, seven, four nine,

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Trey deadline is at four o'clock today. Logan

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Speaker 2: That so to me, that's where my mind immediately goes.

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Speaker 2: who's making the draft pick decisions, on who's doing the evaluating,

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Speaker 2: on who's assembling the roster, that would be Duke Tobin.

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Speaker 2: From what I understand, there is some noise around Duke

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do we have audio of this? We do.

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Speaker 3: This is Pro Football Talk Live. This is Mike Florio

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Speaker 3: talking about the Bengals and Duke Tobin.

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Speaker 2: Jobs are on the line.

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Speaker 9: You said earlier, they're constantly evaluating everyone.

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Speaker 2: They're evaluating everyone.

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Speaker 9: Yers who will be back or not be back, Coaches

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Speaker 9: who will be back or not be back. There's this

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Speaker 2: But heads are going to roll in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 9: This is unacceptable because it's largely unprecedented.

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Speaker 2: How bad this defense is. Your immediate reaction to that

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Speaker 2: track record in evaluating talent and making draft picks stinks.

437
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Speaker 2: And the way the roster is constructed from free agents

438
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Speaker 2: to draft picks to everyone else stinks. Ah that to me,

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Speaker 2: I think Austin would send a strong message through this

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Speaker 2: organization that things are changing.

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Speaker 3: If you don't tr us Duke Tobin to make the

442
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Speaker 3: correct picks and to scout and do all the stuff

443
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 3: that goes into being the de facto GM, do you

444
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Speaker 3: trust the people in charge to replace him and choose

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Speaker 3: his replacement.

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Speaker 2: You would have to, because that would be the only option.

447
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Speaker 3: Well, that would be my point for Duke Tobin, because

448
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 3: I don't think he's getting fired. I don't think he's

449
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: going anywhere, so you kind of have to trust him

450
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Speaker 3: to be the guy when it comes to player personnel.

451
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Speaker 3: But I mean, if this is the guy that ownership

452
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Speaker 3: put in place twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I really trust them to make

454
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Speaker 3: the decision on who to replace him with. But the

455
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 3: unfortunate part is there's nobody in the organization at all

456
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Speaker 3: that I trust. From a player to a coach, to

457
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Speaker 3: a scout, to an equipment manager, to an owner to

458
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Speaker 3: a ticket salesman, I don't trust any of them. Agreed,

459
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Speaker 3: That is a tough spot for fans to be in

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Speaker 3: with the way this organization is handled the last couple

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Speaker 3: of years.

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Speaker 2: I agree, And it puts its look it's a conundrum

463
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Speaker 2: because on one hand, what's happening is bad, But do

464
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Speaker 2: you have the trust in place that you can move

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Speaker 2: on from someone and get someone better in there? And

466
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Speaker 2: how much freedom would that person coming in have and

467
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Speaker 2: how is their relationship with the coach Because we've talked

468
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Speaker 2: now for what two years, Austin that it feels like

469
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Speaker 2: the scheme doesn't match the personnel scheme personnel skiing, it

470
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Speaker 2: doesn't feel like it matches. So you know what we heard?

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Speaker 2: We heard what from Zach Taylor yesterday. Al Golden's not

472
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Speaker 2: going anywhere. The coaches aren't going anywhere. He's confident in them.

473
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Speaker 2: So if that's the case, someone has to answer for this.

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Speaker 2: Do they? You would think when this is historically bad

475
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: and they wasted what last year was with Joe Burrow

476
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase and they somehow got worse, heads should

477
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Speaker 2: roll for that.

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Speaker 3: My guess is still what would happen would be that

479
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: they don't do anything today, Like they don't make any

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Speaker 3: more new moves, Nobody on the coaching staff gets fired

481
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Speaker 3: or let go, or Duke Tobin doesn't get let go.

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Speaker 2: Nothing happens.

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Speaker 3: Really, They go throughout the rest of the season, they

484
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Speaker 3: keep playing the same game against Pittsburgh and New England

485
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Speaker 3: and Baltimore and Buffalo and Miami in Arizona and Cleveland,

486
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Speaker 3: and they finish with the worst defense in the history

487
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Speaker 3: of the National Football League. Yeah, and then people get

488
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: fired because they always seem to wait until it's too eight.

489
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 3: They're never proactive. They're reactive, which is a terrible place

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Speaker 3: to be as an NFL franchise. So that's my guess.

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Speaker 3: That's my assumption as to what will happen, because if

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Speaker 3: it continues down this path. You have no choice but

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Speaker 3: to move on. Yeah, from whether it's the head coach

494
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: or the defensive coordinator or Duke Tobin or anybody, you

495
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Speaker 3: have no choice but to move on.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: And and Zach in his comments yesterday, in my mind,

498
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Speaker 3: basically just put the nail on his own coffin if

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Speaker 3: it's that bad the rest of the year, because he

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Speaker 3: put it all on his shoulders. He said, I believe

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Speaker 3: in all these guys. This is our group. We're sticking

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Speaker 3: with them. Okay, Well, if you fail, it's on you then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. It is. It's gonna be

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Speaker 2: interesting to watch unfold see where this goes from here.

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Speaker 2: But we'll talk more about that and we'll talk with you.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Loegar, We've talked about this a lot. He's got what

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 6: Who's the go to guy gonna be?

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Speaker 1: He interviews, his views and your calls.

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Speaker 1: and fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Cinty three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati S

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Speaker 2: four station. Thanks to Skyline Jillie Austin, we have massive, yeah,

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Speaker 2: massive trade deadline news.

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Speaker 3: The Indianapolis Colts are in aggressive pursuit of a championship.

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Speaker 3: Tony moments ago it was finalized, or I should say,

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Speaker 3: reported that the New York Jets are trading former Bearcat

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00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts. Wow Sauce, tweeting five

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Speaker 3: minutes ago New York It's been real with a green

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Speaker 3: art emoji. Indianapolis acquires Sauce Gardener. I know the Colts

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Speaker 3: have been kicking around some cornerbacks trying to get some

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Speaker 3: help in their secondary and they land a blockbuster deal

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Speaker 3: for Sauce Gardener. At the moment, it would seem that

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Speaker 3: Sauce is going to re reunite with Alec Pearce Bearcat teammates.

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Speaker 3: I don't know though, if Alec Pierce could potentially be

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Speaker 3: traded back to the Jets. We're waiting to see what three.

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Speaker 2: Times We don't know what the return is yet, but

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Speaker 2: that is two time All Pro Sauce Gardener going to

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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts. Louis and Aroumo gets a major two wow,

536
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Speaker 2: two first round picks. According to Adam Schefter, to the

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Speaker 2: Jets for Sauce Gardener unbelievable. I mean, if they're giving

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Speaker 2: up two for Sauce, I would imagine Trey could get three.

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Speaker 2: Oh with all of a sudden.

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Speaker 3: Huh damn man, that's that's a hell of a move.

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Speaker 3: That's a big move for a team that is seishing

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Speaker 3: the chips to the middle.

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Speaker 2: They're seven and two. Yep.

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Speaker 3: They just lost a tough game in Pittsburgh and primarily

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Speaker 3: it was the offense and they say, you know what,

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Speaker 3: we still need help in the secondary. And what a

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Speaker 3: toy for lou An Rumo to be a goodness. I

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00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: know Sauce hasn't been one hundred percent healthy last couple

549
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Speaker 3: of years, but still an effective playmaker.

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Speaker 2: One of from a coverage standpoint, one of the most

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Speaker 2: lockdown corners in the National Football League goes to the

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts. I got another one. Okay, another trade has

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Speaker 2: just come.

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Speaker 3: Fiscamps ready, Sauce Uh, this is a guy that I

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Speaker 3: kind of hoped that the Bengals would get.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is, you know, fever dream type of stuff.

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Speaker 3: The New Orleans Saints are trading wide receiver Rashid Shaheed

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Speaker 3: to the Seattle Seahawks. Go and get another wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: an explosive playmak her, elite, top end speed, wonderful returner.

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Speaker 3: Rashid Shaheed goes from New Orleans to seat unbelievable and

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Speaker 3: talk about two different climates. We got some moving and

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Speaker 3: shaken going on right now. A couple more phone calls

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Speaker 3: before we get to Joe Danaman, John, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Happy Trade deadline day? Fellas?

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Speaker 10: Yes, sir, all right, So, uh looks like a Seattle

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Speaker 10: Indianapolis super Bowl. Let's get ready for that because they're

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Speaker 10: making massive moves here on trade deadline day.

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Speaker 5: Those those are impressive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 10: Here in Boston they're talking about Trey Hendrickson and what

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Speaker 10: it would take to get him from Cincinnati. I think

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Speaker 10: a third round pick makes sense. I know the Bengals

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Speaker 10: want a first round pick. That's kind of ludicris for

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Speaker 10: a thirty one year old ed rusher who has no

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Speaker 10: term left on his contract after this year and is

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Speaker 10: right now injured. But would you guys trade.

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Speaker 5: Him for a third.

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Speaker 2: Round pick by point?

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Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely, yes, time to just move out. And the

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Speaker 10: Logan Wilson deal, I mean allis trading for Logan Wilson

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Speaker 10: is kind of like Mors career, reaching out through.

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Speaker 5: That siennasty and for financial help.

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Speaker 10: I mean, talk about going from the worst defense of

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Speaker 10: the second worst defense. The poor guy, I mean can't

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Speaker 10: catch a break. But you know he's going to Dallas.

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Speaker 10: I guess that's a pretty cool thing.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think you're.

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Speaker 10: Just gonna see teams cleaning house at some point because

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Speaker 10: you know a lot of the big contracts. Sauce Guard

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Speaker 10: just signed that big contract and now he's going to

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Speaker 10: Indianapolis and Garret Wilson's injured. I wouldn't have been shocked

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Speaker 10: if they moved him at the trade deadline because obviously

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Speaker 10: the Jets are trying to build a different culture and

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Speaker 10: some of these players that they haven't signed to a

596
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Speaker 10: long term deals might not be in their prime when

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Speaker 10: that team finally gets around to being really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy because you saw some stuff out of

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Speaker 2: the Jets of Garrett Wilson, maybe even Bresee Hall I

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Speaker 2: had not heard anything up to this point on saft Gardner,

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Speaker 2: but I guess when you get two first round picks

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Speaker 2: in return, and it's hard to say no for a

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Speaker 2: team that's obviously not going anywhere this year. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think the points well taken and I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be interesting how the rest of the day

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Speaker 2: plays out.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, the Jets and Indianapolis have some kind of relationship.

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Speaker 10: Remember years ago they swapped first round picks. The Jets

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Speaker 10: ended up with Sam Donald and the Colts ended up

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Speaker 10: with Quenton Nelson, So they must have some history of

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Speaker 10: making deals. Would you move Hendrickson? Would do you think

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Speaker 10: Indianapolis would try to get Henderson? Obviously because of the

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Speaker 10: connection with lou and Rumo and again a third round

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Speaker 10: pick being in the job done there because now it

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Speaker 10: seems like a lot of these teams are all in

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Speaker 10: in the AC because the league is wide open.

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Speaker 3: Fellows right, I mean, I don't know if the Colts

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Speaker 3: would do it now based off the fact that they

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Speaker 3: just parted ways the two first round picks, but I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if if they're being that aggressive, then they

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Speaker 3: feel like they have a window to win and this

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Speaker 3: year in the AFC.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense, you know, no question.

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Speaker 5: I think I mentioned to you guys yesterday.

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Speaker 10: If the season ended today, Kansas City wouldn't even qualify

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Speaker 10: for the playoffs. I mean, we expect them to be there,

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Speaker 10: but if it ended today, they would be on the

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Speaker 10: outside looking in. So I think every team is looking

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Speaker 10: at this as like this is.

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Speaker 2: Really wide open.

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Speaker 10: So why not go make a movie good for Indianapolis

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Speaker 10: and good for Seattle and we'll see what happened to

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Speaker 10: the next three.

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Speaker 2: Hours for sure, John, thank you man?

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Speaker 5: Anytime?

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Speaker 2: Fellows, Yes, sir, uh, Michael and Covington, what's up.

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Speaker 8: Up, guys?

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Speaker 6: Love you?

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Speaker 8: Uh kind of question. You guys don't have any faith

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Speaker 8: in Doke Covin along as most people. That pretty accurate, right, Yes, Well,

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Speaker 8: my thing is that he's probably gonna screw picks up anyway.

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Speaker 8: You know, no matter who he drafts, he's probably gonna

643
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Speaker 8: screw it up anyway. So why not draft for Why

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Speaker 8: not trade for for people right now and next year,

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Speaker 8: like instead of some three year project player or a

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Speaker 8: bunch of screwed up picks probably ain't gonna work anyway,

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Speaker 8: why not trade those picks for for good? Like these

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Speaker 8: teams are doing you know, sauce gardener. We don't need sauce,

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00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 8: but yeah, we do need sauce with Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it's it's a fair point, Michael, thank you. That's

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Speaker 2: the hard thing. Like we've seen the failed draft picks.

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Speaker 2: I'm all for proven commodities. I'm all forgetting players that

653
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Speaker 2: I could plug in and say, okay, I know based

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Speaker 2: on the track record how this player performs and what

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Speaker 2: you're getting. You don't have that with the rookies right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think there is.

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Speaker 3: The great teams find the balance of being able to

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Speaker 3: do that yep, and say okay, well, you know, here's

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Speaker 3: how we value this fourth round pick compared to this

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Speaker 3: player who can come in and play a specific role

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Speaker 3: or you know, vice versa, whatever it might be. There's

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Speaker 3: a balance to it. We saw the Rams when they

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Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl. They went all in, they traded

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Speaker 3: all their picks. They had an older roster, but they

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Speaker 3: had depth, and they had a good mix of those

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Speaker 3: young players that they had already developed. And they had

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Speaker 3: to flip basically everything in the years following that Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: and they've stayed relevant and there now they're one of

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Speaker 3: the most teams in the NFL but.

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Speaker 2: They found a way to stay relevant. Now the right back.

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Speaker 3: Correct and so you know, there's there's a difference between

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Speaker 3: you know, the Eagles have been really good at this

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Speaker 3: as well. There's a balance to that, and I don't

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Speaker 3: know that the Bengals have the right feel or the

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Speaker 3: right people in the room to be able to pull

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Speaker 3: that off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one more before we get the Joe Danam and

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Speaker 2: Mike what's.

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Speaker 11: Up treating spellas a real quick before I get into

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Speaker 11: the meat of the conversation. Uh, the Phillies, the Mets,

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Speaker 11: and the Yankees spent over a billion dollars in payroll

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Speaker 11: of three combined. So I'm tired of hearing the Dodgers

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Speaker 11: are the only with But as far as the NFL goes,

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Speaker 11: I'm looking at these teams. Look at the Bucks decimated

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Speaker 11: with injuries. Look at forty nine ers decimated with injuries.

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Speaker 11: Why do they survive? I don't know if it's just

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Speaker 11: because of the greatness of the coaches and the depth

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Speaker 11: to the roster, but seem to find a way even well,

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Speaker 11: A Charger's big loss with all now they don't have

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Speaker 11: either starting tackles, so they're up a creek without a powder.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a combination of both. I think it's

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Speaker 2: great coaching, but I also think they're building depth and

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Speaker 2: they're doing a great job at evaluating talent and how

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Speaker 2: to get the most out of that talent.

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Speaker 11: And the three best CMS, in my opinion in the

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Speaker 11: league are Lsman's got to be number one. We know that,

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Speaker 11: especially with the acquisition of Phillips, but less Snead out

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Speaker 11: in LA with the Rams and then Todd light down

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Speaker 11: with Tampa. Tampa is one of the most astute drafting

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Speaker 11: organizations I've ever seen. That's why they haven't been acquiring anybody,

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Speaker 11: because they know when they go into.

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Speaker 5: The draft this year, they're going to.

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Speaker 11: Get guys that stick. When third pick, force pick, fifth

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Speaker 11: pick six, pick seven six, these guys are invaluable.

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Speaker 2: These CMS, Yeah, they they locate the talent, and not

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Speaker 2: only just the talent, but they evaluate how that talent

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Speaker 2: would fit in the current scheme that they want to

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Speaker 2: do on the field. And it just feels like everyone

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Speaker 2: they draft meshes into who and what they want to be.

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Speaker 2: Whereas here in Cincinnati now they're throwing two rookie linebackers

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Speaker 2: out there. Logan Wilson is gone, Shamar Stewart had the

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Speaker 2: whole deal leading into training camp. He's not performing. This

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Speaker 2: doesn't feel like things mesh well here in Cincinnati based

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Speaker 2: on the draft picks, but it certainly doesn't in other

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Speaker 2: cities where the franchises are winning.

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Speaker 11: I just wonder if Joe's going. Man, you know, maybe

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Speaker 11: I was luckier if I got a grafted by a

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Speaker 11: different team, even though he's a homer and I appreciate that,

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Speaker 11: but he's got to be pretty frustrated, right, Absolutely no

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Speaker 11: doubt because because he's got to be thinking, right Austin

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Speaker 11: and time, Okay, great, I'll get healthy, but what are

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Speaker 11: we going to do next year with the same defense?

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Speaker 12: What we're going to do?

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Speaker 2: He's watching Joe Flacco put up, you know, forty points

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Speaker 2: a game over the last two and still loose. I

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Speaker 2: mean there's nothing else he could have done. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that it's extremely frustrating.

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Speaker 11: He had three games last year, what they scored ninety

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Speaker 11: nine points in three games Joe did with his record

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Speaker 11: breaking year and they lost all three games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been crazy. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 11: Well, one of you guys ought to go down and

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Speaker 11: be a coordinator, because I'm sure you could do better.

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Speaker 3: Based off my Madden League. I'm not much better. Thanks yeah, Mike,

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Speaker 3: thank you man. Yeah, I was telling Tony, I've told

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Speaker 3: this story for I'm in a thirty two person Madden

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Speaker 3: the League five and one. But boy, we don't play

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Speaker 3: any defense. I'm like Al Golden calling the defense we

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Speaker 3: thinkofoils today one last night fifty forty two, lou orumo

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Speaker 3: probably feels like this is freaking awesome, run out of run,

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Speaker 3: out of town that cares doing well, and then just

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Speaker 3: added the top corner, one of the top corners in

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Speaker 3: the game to your defense. A commitment to an aggressive

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Speaker 3: pursuit of a championship. How about that what every team

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Speaker 3: should be doing. We're committed, some don't.

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Speaker 2: We try to commit ourselves to the best program we

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Speaker 2: could possibly be. Joe Daniman helps make that a reality

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Speaker 2: t one o'clock. We go to our guy from Fox nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Joe Daniman is joining us right now.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Joe, So let me thank you a picture of

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Speaker 5: how things are right now at pay Course Stadium. So

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Speaker 5: there I am, last evening. It's about six o'clock. I'm

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Speaker 5: running my own live shot. I'm doing a live shot

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Speaker 5: for the news, and I have the camera turned on myself,

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Speaker 5: and I don't really know what's going on behind me

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Speaker 5: because I'm one man banding this and I'm focused right

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Speaker 5: on the camera until I noticed behind me, which would

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Speaker 5: have been in the shot if I didn't notice it,

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Speaker 5: and would have been on TV. A gentleman who's down

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Speaker 5: on his luck urinating on the stadium.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, goodness.

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Speaker 5: So I noticed this about thirty seconds before my shot

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Speaker 5: and turned the camera the other way and we made

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Speaker 5: it out of their Okay, but four thing things are rough,

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Speaker 5: well out of the stadium.

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Speaker 2: That guy might end up being a trendsetter if he'd

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Speaker 2: been on TV.

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Speaker 5: Baba booie.

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Speaker 2: The news of Logan Wilson uh not only him being traded,

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Speaker 2: but recouping a seventh round pick. Your reaction was.

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Speaker 5: What that it had to happen that Logan needed a

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Speaker 5: fresh start somewhere and the Bengals needed to move on

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Speaker 5: without him to clear the way for Demetrius Knight and

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Speaker 5: Barrett Carter to perhaps take a next step in what

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Speaker 5: their development is. Look, the Bengals are going all in

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Speaker 5: on these two guys not only to be starters, but

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Speaker 5: to be cornerstones of what they're trying to build defensively.

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Speaker 5: And I know it hasn't looked good so far, but

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Speaker 5: they've invested draft capital in these players. They've invested now

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Speaker 5: this season in these players and maybe the future of

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Speaker 5: some coaching jobs in these players. To make this kind

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Speaker 5: of move. They believe both of those players can be leader.

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Speaker 5: They believe that's what this team needs, and this is

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Speaker 5: clear of the way for those guys to start that development.

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Speaker 5: It can be hard for a young guy when you

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Speaker 5: have someone like Logan Wilson in the room who has

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Speaker 5: accomplished a lot here in Cincinnati, has been a part

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Speaker 5: of some really big moments here with the Bengals, and

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Speaker 5: now that he's out of there, they can kind of

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Speaker 5: take control of the room and feel more comfortable and

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Speaker 5: maybe taking that next step of development. So it had

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Speaker 5: to happen. I didn't know what the Bengals would get

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Speaker 5: in return. It sounds about right, a seventh round pick

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Speaker 5: for what Logan Wilson has looked like this year. It's

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Speaker 5: a great situation for him. And going to Dallas, their

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Speaker 5: defense is almost as bad as the Bengals, and it

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Speaker 5: feels like their season is trending in the same direction

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Speaker 5: as the Bengals. But he can play, and now he

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Speaker 5: get on the field, he can play, and this clears

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Speaker 5: the way here for the Bengals to get those two

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Speaker 5: young mindbackers try to start their next step of development.

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Speaker 2: The conversation obviously then turns to Trey Hendrickson. The deadline

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Speaker 2: is now a couple hours away. Do you envision at

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Speaker 2: all Joe Trey Hendrickson potentially being on the move over

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Speaker 2: the next couple hours.

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Speaker 5: That's a really hard question to answer. I would sure

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Speaker 5: hope they're listening and not going just listening, but listening

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Speaker 5: with intent, because you know, the reports have been at

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Speaker 5: the Bengals are asking for a really high price in

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Speaker 5: return for Trey Hendrickson. But if this season is lost,

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Speaker 5: and we understand there's still an avenue of a tag

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Speaker 5: and trade next year, but at this season is lost,

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Speaker 5: and it's about acquiring assets to take as many swings

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Speaker 5: as you can on trying to find people that can

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Speaker 5: come in and help this defense. And certainly that would

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Speaker 5: come with skepticism from the fan base because look how

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Speaker 5: many swings they took on the defense this year and

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Speaker 5: they haven't hit. Look how many swings they've taken with

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Speaker 5: defensive draft picks in the last five years and they

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Speaker 5: haven't hit. So is adding more draft picks to let

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Speaker 5: go of Trey Hendrickson the right move I don't know,

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Speaker 5: but I certainly think these are discussions that I hope

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Speaker 5: they're having. I hope these are discussions that they're having

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Speaker 5: with intent to pull the trigger that if it looks

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Speaker 5: good enough to go ahead and do it. Trey Henderson

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Speaker 5: talked about it yesterday, and that was different. I didn't

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Speaker 5: expect him to talk about it. It kind of felt

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Speaker 5: like yesterday, what was a moment for a lot of

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Speaker 5: those defensive players to understand a part of their job

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Speaker 5: is to explain what's going on, to answer questions about

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Speaker 5: what's happening. And Tred being a captain, I felt like

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Speaker 5: felt the need to get in front of a microphone

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Speaker 5: and talk. But obviously he couldn't answer many questions about

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Speaker 5: what's going on with possible trade of what might happen today.

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Speaker 5: But you see big names moving now right Sauce Gardner's

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Speaker 5: on the move on the Bengals. I'm on the phone

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Speaker 5: about Quinn and Williams. If they're really going to start

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Speaker 5: unloading big names, good players. If the Bengals have problems

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Speaker 5: right in the draft of using assets and using them

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Speaker 5: the right way, why not try to go for a

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Speaker 5: known commodity and then you use some of your draft

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Speaker 5: picks to get a known commodity you know can play,

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Speaker 5: and then you can resupplement yourself from what draft picks

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Speaker 5: you gave up by trading Trey Hendrickson to someone else.

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Speaker 5: So Hopefully these are conversations that are happening because the

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Speaker 5: rest of the league is very active right now, and

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Speaker 5: it's not just seventh round picks and guys who are

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Speaker 5: who need to leave and get a change of scenery.

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Speaker 5: There are good players on the move, and I think

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Speaker 5: the Bengals need to be active in a day like this.

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Speaker 2: Not to me is that it was the follow up.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily just have to be Well, you're a

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Speaker 2: losing team right now, so you just have to move

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Speaker 2: on from guys. There is a world. There is an

870
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 2: avenue where instead of taking me risk with draft picks,

871
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: you move on and say, let's go get a known

872
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: commodity that we can push into this defense for the

873
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: rest of this year and starting next year and know

874
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: you have something there and someone that has proven. Is

875
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: that an avenue that maybe gets this team back again.

876
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: We never thought top ten defense could reworking the defense

877
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: in that sense maybe get you back to the middle

878
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: of the pack for next year.

879
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 5: You're looking for a jolt, right You're looking for a

880
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 5: jolt that changes this locker room. That happened when they

881
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 5: got Joe Flacco. You can feel it, and you saw

882
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 5: the way they played once they got Joe Flacco, that

883
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 5: there was a jolt of energy inside that room, a

884
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 5: known commodity, a guy that has done it in this league,

885
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 5: and the rest of the group rallied around that. You

886
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 5: could feel the energy change inside the room. And they

887
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 5: got Joe Flacco. So why wouldn't it happen again if

888
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: you got someone who's already proven he can play in

889
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 5: this league. And here's my biggest thing, guys, is this

890
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 5: investment in change the Bengals have made on the defensive

891
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 5: side of the football, when it comes to changing the coordinator,

892
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 5: when it comes to changing players by adding so many

893
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 5: draft picks and now trading Logan Wilson. The biggest issue

894
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 5: I have with all of this change is what's the

895
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 5: return of investment on that change? So far, it's been nothing,

896
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 5: And that's got to be the scariest part for not

897
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 5: only the fan base, but for the people inside the

898
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: building to look at everything they've invested in. They've invested

899
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 5: in so much change in the return on investment has

900
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 5: been minimal to none. So if you do bring in

901
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 5: a known commodity, that takes that all out of the equation,

902
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 5: right of the mystery of is this person going to

903
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 5: pan out. Is this guy worth the pick that we're

904
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 5: using on him. If you bring in a known commodity

905
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 5: on defense, not only are you changing the energy inside

906
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 5: the locker room, but now you have real tangible change

907
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 5: of investment and you have a real return in that

908
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 5: investment going forward. That to me is the biggest thing

909
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 5: is looking forward to next year. What do we have right?

910
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 5: We have these guys we're playing the young players. These

911
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 5: guys are going to develop into good players. We don't

912
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 5: know that because they haven't shown that yet. We haven't

913
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 5: seen those flashes. That has to be scary for the organization.

914
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 5: So they can get someone they know can play, has

915
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 5: proven he can play and can be with this team

916
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 5: for multiple years. Absolutely, go do it, because then you

917
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 5: have hope for the future that there's someone in the

918
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 5: building that can be a difference maker on this defense.

919
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: There has never been that I can remember, this much

920
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: heat on Duke Tobin for the decisions that he has

921
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: made in the role that he has played in all

922
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 3: of this. Earlier today, Joe Mike Florio from NBC Sports

923
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: reported that or He said on his show that there

924
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: is a bubbling up that Duke Tobin is going to

925
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: be out maybe during the bye week, maybe sooner heads

926
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: are going to roll in Cincinnati. That's from Mike Florio.

927
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 3: What's your response upon hearing that.

928
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: I think it's with this organization, everything is I'll believe

929
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: it when.

930
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 4: I see it.

931
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 5: I see better than I hear kind of thing. Going

932
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 5: back to that, I think I think everybody who's watched

933
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 5: this team reported on this team. I think we're all

934
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 5: conditioned that they typically let a season play out and

935
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 5: then make decisions at the end of the season. That

936
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 5: seems to be their rhythm, and that's kind of the

937
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 5: laine I'm operating in right now. Has Duke Tobin done

938
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 5: enough to maintain his position here in Cincinnati? Has not

939
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 5: done a good enough job for him to keep doing

940
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 5: what he's doing in Cincinnati. It's complicated considering he's basically

941
00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 5: family to the organization, and for me to try to

942
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 5: get inside the minds of the Brown family in the

943
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 5: front office and figure out what they're going to do

944
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 5: with Duke Tobin, it feels complicated. It feels hard certainly

945
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 5: on the surface. Anybody who sees what the Bengals are

946
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 5: putting on the field and the swings and this is

947
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 5: they've had, especially on the defensive side of the football,

948
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 5: and the draft would say, Okay, it's time for change.

949
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 5: We've seen this enough, it hasn't worked. Bringing somebody else

950
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 5: to take a swing at this and see if he

951
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 5: can build a better roster. I kind of feel like

952
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 5: Duke Hobin is going to be haunted by what he

953
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: said at the Draft combine when he said I'm not

954
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 5: going to pay more for the same team. Well, he's

955
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 5: paying more now for a worse team, and that to

956
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 5: me would be a haunting sentence for a guy to

957
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 5: carry around. Now that we've seen what this team is

958
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 5: through nine weeks, so I'm gonna stay in the lane

959
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 5: of he most likely stays here until the end of

960
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 5: the year and then it's evaluated at the end of

961
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 5: the year. But the Bengals have started to do things

962
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 5: in recent years that have surprised me. What they did

963
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 5: today what would have been a surprise a few years ago.

964
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, I understand where the reports are coming from.

965
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 5: Certainly the microscope and the crosshairs have to be on

966
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 5: Duke Tobin. I think he's the one that they should

967
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 5: be on the most for what we're watching right now,

968
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 5: because to me, it just seems a team devoid of

969
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 5: talent on the defensive side of the football, and that

970
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 5: falls at his doorstep. But what the Bengals will do

971
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 5: the rhythm of what they've done traditionally, let seasons play

972
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 5: out and then evaluate. We'll see if that changes this year.

973
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: I've always kind of gotten a feeling too that it

974
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: got to a point with Marvin Lewis that he was

975
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: like that, like he was like a member of the

976
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: family and kind of insulated and eventually they broke things

977
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 3: off with him. So I don't know if I would

978
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 3: say it's completely impossible, but you know, we have kind

979
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: of seen that in the past. I compare where Duke

980
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: is at right now to the end of Marvin Lewis.

981
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: That's just the vibe that I get.

982
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 5: I don't know, sure no, and I'm with you, And

983
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 5: it's not just Duke, right The conversation is going to

984
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 5: be around the head coach as well, and that's what

985
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 5: happens in situations like this. And people are going to

986
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 5: read through the lines of what Zach Taylor said yesterday

987
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 5: about his coaching staff, his belief in the defensive coaches,

988
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 5: that there have been good coaches where they've been they'll

989
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 5: be good coaches here. And I think sometimes and I'm

990
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 5: guilty of it too, that we become slaves of the

991
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 5: actual quote that what Zach Taylor going to say, if

992
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 5: they're not going to make changes, He's obviously going to

993
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: publicly back them and say that he believes in them,

994
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 5: that he trusts them, no matter how he feels about

995
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 5: the situation, because if they are handpicked by him, it

996
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 5: eventually falls on his door, right And we talk about

997
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 5: the blame, and we can keep circling the wheel of

998
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 5: blame and who's it going to land on it? And

999
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 5: Duke Tobin deserves a big piece of it, and Zach

1000
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 5: Taylor deserves a big piece of it, and certainly his

1001
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 5: evaluation will have to go forward to But at the

1002
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 5: same time, it's one of those things that I'm with

1003
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 5: you that this does feel different, Unduke to But it

1004
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 5: feels like the noise is louder than ever. It feels

1005
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 5: like influential voices around the league are talking about it

1006
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: in a different way than we've heard before, and that

1007
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 5: to me adds a little bit of more smoke to

1008
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 5: what feels to be a smoldering fire here in Cincinnati

1009
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 5: of change. But I still believe. I still believe that

1010
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 5: that the change likely won't come until the end of

1011
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 5: the season. Happy to be surprised, right, this could happen.

1012
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 5: This is the time. It's midway through the season. We've

1013
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 5: seen enough, it's by week, it's a reset time. Could

1014
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 5: it happen now? Certainly it could. But the laye I've

1015
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 5: both operate in for too long is let a season

1016
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 5: play out and evaluate at the end of the year.

1017
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: I've got a two part question for you as it

1018
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 2: pertains to what happened on Sunday. One, we heard from

1019
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: Chase Brown, we heard from Jamar Chase after the game,

1020
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: and the choice words that they have. I'll start with

1021
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: this one. Did you have a problem with what they

1022
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: had to say in the platform in which they used

1023
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,959
Speaker 2: to say it? And Two? If they're willing to say

1024
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: that publicly, how bad are things getting privately? What's the

1025
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: tension like around the locker room? Is it something that

1026
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: you can feel being around it? I know the bye

1027
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: week happened, so things probably happened at a pretty good time.

1028
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: But your reaction to what they had to say and

1029
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: the tension that now follows that in the locker.

1030
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 5: Room, Yeah, things have picked up in the last two weeks,

1031
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 5: the Jets loss and the Bear's loss have added a

1032
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 5: layer of tension to the room that feels different and

1033
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 5: it has all year long. No problem whatsoever with what

1034
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 5: Chase Brown said, No problem whatsoever with what Jamar Chase said.

1035
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 5: You think about what Chase Brown did on Sunday, and

1036
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 5: Dak Taylor made the point yesterday that he pulled him

1037
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 5: aside and said, hey, listen, you know you weren't perfect

1038
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 5: in that game either, And Chase Brown had some moments

1039
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 5: to drop pass, he had a misassignment.

1040
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 6: I get it.

1041
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 5: Chase Brown put his body on the line that last drive.

1042
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 5: You think about him trying to hurdle a player and

1043
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 5: getting flipped mid air and landing on his back to

1044
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 5: try to make a play for this team to win

1045
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 5: a game. You think about what t Higgins did trying

1046
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 5: the high point of football, knowing he was gonna fall

1047
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 5: back with no way to brace his fall and land

1048
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 5: directly on his back and his helmet and he was

1049
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 5: knocked out for the rest of the game. When you

1050
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 5: have star players laying it on the line the way

1051
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 5: these guys are putting their bodies in danger want to

1052
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 5: win a game, Joe Flacca as well, and we all

1053
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 5: get it. The season is probably lost, and these guys

1054
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 5: are doing this, they have every right to say whatever

1055
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: the heck they want about a defense that was walking

1056
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 5: out of the locker room and refusing to talk about

1057
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 5: their performance. And to me, I'm Chase Brown. I'm pissed,

1058
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 5: and you can if you go back and watch it.

1059
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 5: I know you guys have played the audio. You go

1060
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 5: back and watch it. Watch Chase Brown's eyes look to

1061
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 5: the defensive side the room when he's starting to answer

1062
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 5: that question. He looks the defensive side of the room

1063
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 5: to see if anybody's there that can hear him. And

1064
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 5: you know, you get in these moments where you start

1065
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 5: talking like this, and I'm sure Chase Brown, hey, maybe

1066
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 5: I'm wrong, Maybe he doesn't want to take it back.

1067
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 5: Maybe he's happy he said what he said because it

1068
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 5: lit a little bit of whatever's happening right now with

1069
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 5: us talking about it. But he looked at the defensive

1070
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 5: side of the room and they're all gone. None of

1071
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 5: them were in there to explain what happened or speak

1072
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 5: to the van Bates about what happened and what's going

1073
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 5: to change in the future. Now, I get it. If

1074
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 5: you're a guy like Jordan Battle and you make a

1075
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 5: play like he made, or if you're Shamar Stewart, or

1076
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 5: if you're Demetrius Knight and these guys are making mistakes

1077
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 5: and missing plays, what are they supposed to say? What

1078
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 5: can I say after a moment like that? That's going

1079
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 5: to a piece of fan base that has pitchforks and

1080
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 5: torches that want to come in here and run us

1081
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 5: all out of town. But you just have to write

1082
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 5: so the offensive players don't have to answer the question

1083
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 5: for you. That is part of professional protocol inside of

1084
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Speaker 5: the locker room. Never make a teammate answer the questions

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Speaker 5: that I have to answer. And in this case, Chase

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Speaker 5: Brown and Jamar Chase had to speak for the defense

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Speaker 5: because no one was there to speak about themselves. That

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00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 5: changed yesterday, Dak Taylor's message got through. People wonder about

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Speaker 5: how Zach Taylor handled it. Geno Stone talked, Jordan Battle, talked,

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Speaker 5: Caam Taylor Brick talk Dray Hendrickson, who never does talk.

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Speaker 5: In fact, Geno Stone waited while we were interviewing Cam

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Speaker 5: Taylor Brick because he wanted to get in front of

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Speaker 5: a microphone and say what he wanted to say that

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Speaker 5: had been cool on Sunday to do it. Then I'm

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Speaker 5: not saying he ran out, but he wasn't in there

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Speaker 5: when I was there. But guys did take accountability. But

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Speaker 5: it was twenty four hours too late, and Chase Brown's

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Speaker 5: cat was out of the bag.

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Speaker 2: Is the ping pong table still in the locker room?

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Speaker 5: Gone?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 5: Right from existence?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 10: Cam it?

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Speaker 2: When was that? When did that happen? We know these things.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you know what I'm trying to think. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: got him in there every day. It's like staring in

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Speaker 5: the mirror. You never noticed change unless you've been.

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Speaker 2: Gone for a long time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe the ping pong table was in there

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Speaker 5: yesterday now that I think about it, yet it's gone.

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Speaker 5: I think. Don't don't hold me for that, But I

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Speaker 5: think I.

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Speaker 2: Have one more question for you. But it doesn't pertain

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Speaker 2: to anything with the Bengals. Uh Oh. It was reported

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Speaker 2: earlier by Bleacher Report and many other outlets Joe that

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady has revealed that his current dog Juni, is

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Speaker 2: a clone of his late dog Lua, who passed away

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Speaker 2: in December of twenty twenty three. The dogs were cloned

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Speaker 2: by Colossal bioscienceists, a biotech company in which Brady is

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Speaker 2: an investor, using blood collected prior to Lewi's death. What

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Speaker 2: are your thoughts on cloning?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'll say this about people with stupid money, and

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Speaker 5: people with stupid money can do whatever the heck they

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Speaker 5: want with it. It's their money, and you know we

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Speaker 5: talk about it. You know, Joe Burrow buying a batmobile

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Speaker 5: and athletes and what they do with their money. When

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Speaker 5: younger people have money, they have nothing to do with

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Speaker 5: it but do stupid stuff. Tom Brady's not young. Tom

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Speaker 5: Brady's in it. Forty don't quote a dog. How many

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Speaker 5: dogs are out there to eat a home? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: We have it on the DUS every single night about

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Speaker 5: these dogs that are abused and dogs that need homes.

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Speaker 2: Come on, Tom, don't get a dog that.

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Speaker 5: Needs a home. Yeah, don't clone your dog. Ridiculous. But

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Speaker 5: it's your money to be a stupid money. Do whatever

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Speaker 5: you want to do with your stupid money, even if

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Speaker 5: it's a stupid thing.

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Speaker 2: Well said, I like that. Lastly, was anyone in the

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Speaker 2: do whatever you want to do with your stupid money,

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Speaker 2: even if it's a stupid thing. I know it's a

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Speaker 2: bye week, I know, just first and second year players

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Speaker 2: are around. Any other attention to detail to kicker balls

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Speaker 2: vers quarterback balls? Oh boy, how about that?

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Speaker 5: I was wondering what the heck happened on that because

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01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 5: he just kicked the near seven the yard field goal

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Speaker 5: in Green Bay. The first thing I did when that

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Speaker 5: ball landed short, I looked right at the flags at

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Speaker 5: Paid Course Stadium and said, wait a minute, there's no wine.

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Speaker 5: What the heck happened? I was trying to think of.

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Speaker 5: It was like me in the fairway when you hit

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Speaker 5: like three inches of grass before you hit the ball,

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Speaker 5: and you hit it fat and it comes up short.

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01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, maybe that happened to Evan McPherson. But it

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01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 5: was so accurate. It was right down in the middle

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Speaker 5: and when it came up short. So I'm glad there

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Speaker 5: was an explanation because I was really confused on what

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Speaker 5: happened on that play.

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Speaker 2: It is it's a bye week for the Bengals. Does

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Speaker 2: that change anything you guys got going on with Fox nineteen?

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Speaker 5: We have no Bengals now tomorrow night, so we are

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Speaker 5: taking a week off from our Bengals show. Where back

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Speaker 5: at it next week? Bengals. Now I am trying. I'm trying,

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Speaker 5: and he has said he's open to it. Trying to

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Speaker 5: get Joe Flacco wo to be our guest for the show.

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Speaker 5: How cool would that be like to put on mister

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Speaker 5: Rogers sweaters? Ye, and we're going to dad the heck

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Speaker 5: out of this show. If we can get Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 2: It's not too late for him, is it. He's normally

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Speaker 2: in better around.

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Speaker 5: In That's right. It's six o'clock, so he should be good. Guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's it. When we get Joe Flacco on the show,

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Speaker 5: I want Tony and Austin in attendance, and I will

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Speaker 5: buy you guys a beer that night.

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Speaker 2: I was I was often compared coming out to Joe

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Speaker 2: Flacco in the draft. Uh, for no other reason. Then

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Speaker 2: we're both tall. There was no other comparison other than

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Speaker 2: arm strength and height. And yet his career is still flourishing.

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Speaker 2: So I I would like to see that man. It

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Speaker 2: would be next Wednesday? Is that correct?

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Speaker 5: That's the hope. It's next Wednesday. I gotta lock it down.

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Speaker 5: Can I say one last thing about Joe Flacco?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 5: And the defense? The defense has stolen from us. The

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Speaker 5: story in the NFL R Now.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 5: If Joe Blacco were winning games, and he's done everything

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Speaker 5: he can to win games. He's got over one thousand

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Speaker 5: yards passing his last three games, ten total touchdowns, this

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Speaker 5: would be the best story in the NFL. Correct, right

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Speaker 5: here in Cincinnati, if the defense wasn't stealing the best

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Speaker 5: story in the NFL. Thieves thaves of joy the Angles defense.

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Speaker 2: Joe Daniman, you're the best manrime has really gotten out

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Speaker 2: of control. You're the best. We'll talk soon, you boy,

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Speaker 2: Joe Danie Fox nineteen. We we got to get to

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Speaker 2: talk back.

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Speaker 3: You can't do so like we can do an hour straight.

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01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: We could be like Bob Trump. He just blow out

1201
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 3: the commercials with Joe, did Joe dan It goes way

1202
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: too fast.

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks to Cinti shirts.

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Speaker 6: Now your chance to win a thousands.

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Speaker 14: Press the microphone, handy coach, your message for us in

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01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 14: to please keep it clean and don't be mean, and

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Speaker 14: a sprinkle sprinkled, drip drip. It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 14: It's our favorite part of Sancy three sixty Austin, Buddy,

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Speaker 14: play that talk back on your screen. Please try not

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Speaker 14: too Saba Taje.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Sincy shirts. Your Tuesday edition of Talkbacks start

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Speaker 2: right now, maybe right now.

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Speaker 15: Hey, guys, it's Jeff and your Richmond. So I wanted

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01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 15: to take a second here to apologize about yesterday. No,

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01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 15: I don't want Mike Brown dead, but Father Time is

1216
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 15: undefeated and the mess that he's created with this franchise

1217
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 15: can't be fixed overnight. So anyway, onto the Bearcats. You know,

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Speaker 15: great win last night, great ways start the season. Love

1219
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 15: seeing Sean bay and play. He's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to talk about these Bearcats. It's a

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Speaker 2: nour number three.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: I think they got some scores.

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Speaker 16: Logan Wilson for a seventh round pick, man, I was

1225
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Speaker 16: hoping we could trick Jerry Jones into giving up one

1226
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Speaker 16: of them first rounders for Trey Henderson the Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 16: Best of luck to you, sir. Bengals defense last two

1228
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 16: years just miss tackles and miss tackles. I don't understand

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Speaker 16: how guys can play football their whole lives and just

1230
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 16: don't wrap up and take people.

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Speaker 2: To the ground.

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Speaker 16: It's almost like they're think they're playing Madden in real life.

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Speaker 16: And just use that hit stick and guys that go

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Speaker 16: to the ground set a bouncing off of them and

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Speaker 16: running for touchdowns. Make it make sense guys today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seems like a problem Austin deals with on a

1237
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Speaker 2: nightly basis and his Madden League as well. Not tackling,

1238
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: not wrapping up.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, So CJ.

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Speaker 17: Gardner Johnson had as many solo tackles as our top

1241
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Speaker 17: players and a sack. Yep, just as many solo tackles

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Speaker 17: as anybody the Bengals registered. Why couldn't the Bengals have

1243
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 17: gone out and signed him?

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Speaker 2: I think you could probably run that exercise with a

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Speaker 2: lot of players. No idea.

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Speaker 18: Possibly the real reason the Bengals defensive backs ran out

1247
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 18: of locker room on short notice.

1248
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Speaker 2: On a bye week.

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Speaker 19: Yep, yeah, Tony Austin's Jack Everan College Hills. Wondering who

1250
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Speaker 19: we think the first to get removed from their position?

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Speaker 2: Is?

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Speaker 19: Is it Tony after iHeartMedia had to rename their entire

1253
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 19: company to iHeart Media with Tony Pike? Is it Duke

1254
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,959
Speaker 19: Tovin with the Cincinnati Bengals or is it the Edmond

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Speaker 19: Fitzgerald at the bottom of Lake Superior.

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Speaker 2: We would say iHeart media. I'm probably next on the

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Speaker 2: chapter again. iHeartMedia.

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Speaker 20: Hey, it's the Lord.

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Speaker 21: Hey.

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Speaker 20: I heard yesterday on Quick Hits, Mo and you guys

1261
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Speaker 20: were talking about fights may break out in the locker room.

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Speaker 20: I also heard on national radio this morning that fights

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01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 20: may break out in the Bengals locker room. Can we

1264
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 20: place bets on these fights? At least maybe we could

1265
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 20: win our money at something.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's probably somebody to take. I wonder who

1267
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: would be fair.

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Speaker 22: Well, my weekend was a flop. There's no denying that

1269
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 22: my hopes were sky high. But my team's left me flat.

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Speaker 22: The J's really blew it at the end of game seven,

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Speaker 22: and they toatched a bullet. Now their fans are in

1272
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 22: hug Heaven. You see added West to the land of Utah.

1273
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 22: But the moment was too big, the mountain too tall.

1274
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 22: The Bengals tore my heart out of Afterflacco worked his magic.

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Speaker 22: The offense is amazing, but that defense is so tragic.

1276
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 22: The only thing that saved me, my only beta blocker

1277
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Speaker 22: is the pure and simple fact that I still don't

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Speaker 22: watch soccer.

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Speaker 23: Wow, no, no, no, who.

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Speaker 2: Good by logan? Oh damn, this is a service like that.

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Speaker 24: This segment is the last out loud segment on See

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Speaker 24: three sixty. What do you do when you see and

1283
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 24: hear Zach Taylor at his Monday and Wednesday Prince Press conferences?

1284
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 24: You laugh out loud? What do you do when you

1285
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 24: see the Bengals defense trying to stop an opposing offense?

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 2: You laugh out loud?

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Speaker 24: What do you do when you see Zach Taylor or

1288
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 24: Giddy on the sideline? You laugh out loud.

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01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 25: I tell you what, my man Aldy, he knows how

1290
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 25: to get in them gats too. He stays in them guests.

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01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 2: Just plugging it up. Man.

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Speaker 26: Hey boys, no, I can't believe that Zach called out

1293
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 26: Jase Brown. That's just he's lost that locker room totally. Hey,

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Speaker 26: I just listened to your podcast. Heard Audie say that

1295
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 26: we got sixty talkbacks yesterday. So what about this for

1296
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 26: an idea? Just put all sixty talkbacks out there on

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 26: the podcast. They can be unhedited because it won't be

1298
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,879
Speaker 26: going over the air live. Get a sponsor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, getting a sponsor, that's about impossible around here.

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01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: I'd like to do that. That'd be cool.

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01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 3: That's creating more work for me. Pike doesn't do any

1302
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: of this stuff, so you'd be compensated.

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01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 27: Oeger had the best quote on X when he said

1305
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 27: congratulations to Logan Wilson for getting traded from the Titanic

1306
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 27: to the Hindenburg spot on Yeah, very funny. Let me

1307
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 27: ask you guys a question, as two of the most

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01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 27: pre eminent sports talk shows in Cincinnati, do you think

1309
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 27: that either the Reds or the Bengals front office listens

1310
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 27: to anything the fans on hearsay?

1311
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they've listened with the fans,

1312
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 2: I know they listened to the show. Yeah.

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01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that they make every opinion

1314
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 3: into account, but I do know that they listen.

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01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,640
Speaker 28: Jermaine Burton missing a practice, late for practice, missing a

1316
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 28: meeting late for a.

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: Meeting, it's no way he's under.

1318
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 28: Are we gonna cut our losses with this guy? You

1319
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 28: can't on one hand come down on Chase Brown for

1320
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 28: being too passionate after a game and saying something to

1321
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 28: the media, and then on the other hand, you give

1322
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 28: this other guy who's drafted in the third round, supposed

1323
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 28: to be amazing all the chances in the world when

1324
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 28: he shows that he doesn't.

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01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: About be there. He hasn't gotten any chances. There are

1326
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 2: no the problem with him, he's not given He's not

1327
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 2: been given a chance. That's how bad it's been. Yeah,

1328
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 2: like that.

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01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 3: It's not like they're just running him out there like

1330
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:48,759
Speaker 3: he's Demetrius Night Junior. He's just he's there. He doesn't

1331
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: get practice reps, he doesn't play like.

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01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: She had a good camp though for a couple of days.

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01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 3: They don't owe him a bunch of money. He's literally

1334
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 3: there break glass in case of emergency. It's not like

1335
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 3: they're put him out there in place of Andre Joseva.

1336
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: Have to be getting all these chances and he's doing nothing.

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's a big deal. Oh why are

1338
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 3: we giving this guy so many chances? He's not getting

1339
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 3: any chances?

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01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 17: You know.

1341
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 29: Hearing Zach Taylor's comments towards Chase Brown's comments, so I

1342
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 29: need to know about Zach Taylor. He should be the

1343
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 29: one stepping up and saying what these players are saying.

1344
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,879
Speaker 29: He's the freaking head coach of this team. But instead

1345
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 29: he wants to turn it the other way and act

1346
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 29: like the good old Boys Club is here. Bs man. Well,

1347
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 29: I'm done with I'm so done with Zach Taylor. He's

1348
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 29: a freaking clown. I swear to gud I hope he's

1349
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 29: gone after this year.

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Speaker 2: They were asked yesterday. Jordan Battle was asked, did Zach

1351
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: Taylor address anything in the Monday meeting that like essentially

1352
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 2: made it feel different than any other normal Monday meaning?

1353
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: Is there a tone that's been set? And Jordan Battle

1354
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: said no comment. Zach Taylor was asked the same question.

1355
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: He said, I don't know. You're gonna have to ask

1356
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: the players. I just want to know that it's a

1357
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: different tone. Sounds to me like somebody got their assitude. Yeah,

1358
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 2: I just want to know that it's a different tone.

1359
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 3: And also, I don't know if you heard the way

1360
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 3: Joe Daniman talked about it, maybe a bit of a

1361
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 3: read between the lines there where Joe talked about how

1362
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: there was a very different attitude by the defensive players.

1363
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if Zach got up there and

1364
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: ripped them. I hope so, and I'm sure he probably.

1365
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 3: This is how I'm guessing things happened. He talked with

1366
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: Chase Brown and said, Hey, that's not your job, that's

1367
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 3: my job. I'll take care of it, and on the

1368
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 3: media said me and Chase had to talk about it.

1369
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 3: I wish he wouldn't have done that. And then Zach

1370
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,959
Speaker 3: went into the team meeting room and ripped the defense

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01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: and told them part of their jobs they have to talk.

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01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 2: To the media. That's how I assume things went. I

1373
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 2: hope it did.

1374
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 30: Yeah, health, it really doesn't matter what they do at

1375
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 30: the trade deadline because I don't have any faith that

1376
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 30: they could turn these draft picks into productive players. I'll

1377
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 30: put out a question to my friends, when was the

1378
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 30: last time a Bengals signed a free agent in the prime.

1379
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 30: The best they could come up with was Von Beale.

1380
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 30: It's a joke. It's terrible. I have no faith in

1381
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 30: the organization. They're a failure.

1382
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 3: Well, you don't have very good friends because Trey Hendrickson exists.

1383
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 31: I tell you the last two Sundays. That's rough being

1384
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 31: a Bengals fan. Not good for the blood pressure. I

1385
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 31: thought Chris Jenkins was a good draft pick. I really did,

1386
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 31: But I was wrong on that one. I'd always stick

1387
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 31: up for Jordan battle Man. I'd take it back, Oh,

1388
01:13:53,479 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 31: I yeah, I'd the whole defense should be arrested, all right.

1389
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 30: I'm all from out healthy with a rare double dip.

1390
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 30: The biggest thing that we hear in professional sports is accountability.

1391
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 30: Accountability coaches, players, organizationally. The coaches have no accountability. They're

1392
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 30: getting off scott free here because if you watch the

1393
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,799
Speaker 30: Bengals defensive line, well, just the defense. Their technique is terrible.

1394
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 30: The hand fighting of the defensive line is horrible. The

1395
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 30: technique is horrible. They can't do basic fundamentals like tackling.

1396
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 30: The fundamentals are lacking on this team. I would agree,

1397
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 30: scheme is lacking.

1398
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 2: Mike Florio is a joke man.

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01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 32: He has no idea what he's talking about us throwing

1400
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 32: crap against the wall unless you live here and experience

1401
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 32: this stuff. But yeah, courts in a normal situation, somebody

1402
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 32: would say, oh, Duke Tobin's on the hot seat. But

1403
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 32: unless you live here experience the stuff, you have no

1404
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 32: idea how traumatic it is to be a Cincinnati sportsman.

1405
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, but I don't think Mike. I

1406
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: don't think Mike Florio with NBC Sports would just make

1407
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: up something like that. He would obviously have to hear

1408
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 2: rumblings about that somewhere. Yeah, I think that that does

1409
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: carry a little bit of weake a little bit of weight, and.

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01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 6: I mean.

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 3: Florio is very good at stirring the pot, and you

1412
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 3: do have to take I think everything he says with

1413
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 3: the grain of salt, but the fact that he's saying

1414
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: it means he's heard it.

1415
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 32: Guys, you need to fire Duke Toobin and hire John

1416
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 32: Group and he wants desperately back in the game.

1417
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 29: And there's a man who could make some good personnel decisions, just.

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01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 3: Saying, I don't know if his track record in Las

1419
01:15:54,680 --> 01:16:00,120
Speaker 3: Vegas would suggest that he'll make good personnel decisions. I

1420
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 3: would like a guy with the attitude of John Gruden.

1421
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't sure. I don't know if he really is

1422
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 3: a fit here, but.

1423
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: I get it.

1424
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 33: Hey formerly peppy Patty here now sad Patty. Okay, I

1425
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 33: have been a Zach compassionist and now I am ticked off,

1426
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 33: even pissed off, which takes a whole lot for me

1427
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 33: to be. But Zach's latest comments have sent me over

1428
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 33: the edge, especially the ones about Chase Brown. No, you

1429
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 33: should have his back for speaking his mind, for caring

1430
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 33: and playing his bottom off, and be mad at the

1431
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 33: ones that wouldn't top and that have him played.

1432
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're turning peppy Patty into angry Patty. You've

1433
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 2: done something incredibly bad, not good, Ernie.

1434
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 34: You know, back in the day when I was a ballplayer,

1435
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 34: our coach talked about ice cream.

1436
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 2: You know, you got a gown of ice cream.

1437
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 34: You know there's a little speck of poop in the

1438
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 34: ice cream.

1439
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 28: You're going to scoop it around.

1440
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 34: And salute that ice cream where it's a whole jill

1441
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 34: contaminated with poop, and you throw it out and get

1442
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 34: the new jug of ice cream. I think this Bengals

1443
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 34: team it's time to restart because there's poop in the

1444
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 34: ice cream.

1445
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 2: You're saying that the Bengals have pooping the jug of

1446
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:16,440
Speaker 2: ice cream. You know that somehow is a fitting analogy.

1447
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, that's one of the more

1448
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 3: incredible analogies I've ever heard someone come up with. And

1449
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: that's our guy Liam, who texted me this morning at

1450
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 3: five forty seven am the following message. Jaquiz Rogers was special.

1451
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 3: I watched him firsthand. I watched him.

1452
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 35: Works in the Bengals front office and I was told

1453
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 35: that specific paperwork was printed out for staff releases. That

1454
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 35: paper was printed out yesterday. So I do believe that

1455
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 35: Duke Copen is going to be fired. I think we'll

1456
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 35: hear about it today or tomorrow. I don't think it's

1457
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 35: going to be any defensive coaches after what Zach Taylor said.

1458
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:00,759
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be tubes.

1459
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm buying in Okay.

1460
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 3: So just to be clear, this is a talkbacker who

1461
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 3: says he has a friend of a friend who works

1462
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 3: in the Bengals front office and a specific type of

1463
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 3: paperwork was printed out regarding staff releases.

1464
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 2: This is what it's all about. Now.

1465
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: I feel like we're at an SEC school looking for

1466
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 3: a new head coach.

1467
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 2: This is what it's all about. Now we're in We're

1468
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 2: in the thick of it.

1469
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 36: Now.

1470
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 3: Do you see how people found out about Hugh Freeze

1471
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 3: because of his tea time was canceled?

1472
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 2: Yep. This is the type of stuff we're on too

1473
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 2: right now.

1474
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 23: What kind of you're gonna have to have Dave Lapham

1475
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 23: making cold calls to other NFL teams today if you

1476
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 23: want to trade any other players on defense, so you

1477
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 23: can talk about how it's just a bunch of good

1478
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 23: guys brotherhood. They love playing football in the National Football

1479
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 23: League to make football plays.

1480
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 37: I heard Mo lap him last night on the call,

1481
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 37: Hey Joe from Casey here. I don't like the Logan

1482
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 37: Wilson trade. I understand it, just don't like it. I

1483
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,759
Speaker 37: don't understand how he goes from on the field making

1484
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 37: plays too this year, can't even stay on the team. Secondly,

1485
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 37: I have a group chat with all my niece's nephew's

1486
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 37: family during the games, and my twenty two year old

1487
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 37: nephew shout out Troy at University of Walsh up in Canton, Ohio,

1488
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 37: texted and sums it up perfectly.

1489
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: Just nothing changes if nothing changes. Alrte that down to it, Troy,

1490
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 2: nothing nothing changes, if nothing.

1491
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 38: I guess we can add Schamar's Stewart apologist to Aldie's

1492
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 38: resume rod next to that tail or a post I'm

1493
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 38: just busting your bricks, buddy, relax for real. Don't ever

1494
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 38: compare him to Tyler Boyd. Good board Win. Did Tyler

1495
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 38: Boyd ever ever disrupt the locker room? Came in as

1496
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 38: a disruption to the locker room? And when did Tyler

1497
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 38: Boyd's daddy ever get on so social media and started

1498
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 38: capping on Bengals.

1499
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 3: Fans The social media players families on social media is

1500
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 3: a major issue, correct, but that might be just commonplace

1501
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: from here on out because the world we live in.

1502
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: I saw Romo Dunesay's dad going at Bears fans earlier today,

1503
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 3: crazy some crazy good Big Steve get a Twitter account

1504
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: and see what want to do that guys back in

1505
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 3: the day. It was just an example of how somebody

1506
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 3: was really bad one year and turned it around.

1507
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 2: That was my point about Tyler Boyd.

1508
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 38: And not to be picking all low hanging fruit here,

1509
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 38: but Tyler Boyd was not a first round pick.

1510
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 2: I know you clearly don't get it.

1511
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 3: It's not about Tyler Boyd and his specific you know,

1512
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 3: draft slot money he made where he's from. It's about

1513
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 3: terrible first year turned it around. Shamar Stewart can do

1514
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 3: the same.

1515
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: Tony as we.

1516
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 39: Got to step back his Bengals fans and think about

1517
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 39: it as a fan of the Cincinnati Bengals. We live

1518
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 39: in the greatest city in the United States of America.

1519
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 39: Because where else in a sports city could a guy

1520
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 39: like Zach Taylor keep a job?

1521
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: How could a guy like d Tovin keep a job?

1522
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 39: Only in Cincinnati, Olwen and the Queen City.

1523
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: I love this city. I love it here.

1524
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:28,839
Speaker 27: Hey, Austin.

1525
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 2: I was wondering.

1526
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 19: I've heard you say a few times you have.

1527
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 40: A problem with rooting for your team to lose, and

1528
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 40: I was wondering when the Bengals played the Dolphins and

1529
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 40: the loser gets Joe Burrow, did you root for the

1530
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 40: Bengals that game. I'm just wondering, anyway, I like how

1531
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 40: we finally get from the Bengals real talk courtesy of

1532
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 40: Chase Brown Zach Taylor's like, nah, Chase, knock it off.

1533
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: I was rooting for the Bengals that day. I did

1534
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 2: not believe in that.

1535
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 3: I understand now that I was probably fools root for

1536
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 3: the Bengals that day.

1537
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 41: I actual boy claim, could it'll hopper from down here

1538
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 41: in the holler around Summerset. I was just wondering if

1539
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 41: you boys had ever pooped so long you peed twice?

1540
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 2: Wow, that happened to me the other day. That was

1541
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 2: kind of weird.

1542
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 41: But anyway, I was thinking that the Bengals offense is

1543
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 41: just too good, and that's why the defense sucks because

1544
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 41: they never get a chance to catch your breath because

1545
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 41: the offense is out there scoring like the star quarterback

1546
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 41: on Prime Night. I gotta know, I need to answer,

1547
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 41: please advice.

1548
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: A great question would be part of the equation. It's

1549
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: a great question.

1550
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 3: Since poop has been brought up twice already in talkbacks,

1551
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,480
Speaker 3: I want to take this moment to encourage everybody to

1552
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 3: learn and perform the art of the courtesy flush.

1553
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: Thank you. What a time to do that.

1554
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 42: Hey, Mike, you know all those teams you named have

1555
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 42: one thing in coming.

1556
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 5: They're all very big market teams.

1557
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 42: And if we think it's a problem that three school

1558
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 42: ball is going to be a free agent, not even

1559
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 42: this year, and prominent analysts and MLB reporters are already

1560
01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 42: saying that only three teams can afford them, it's a problem.

1561
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 22: It sucks.

1562
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 2: Correct.

1563
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: Also not great for Mike today to come in and

1564
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 3: immediately start talking baseball and then drop a curse word

1565
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 3: where I had to dump them. You know, it's sometimes

1566
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 3: you have a bad game, sometimes you're marshed off.

1567
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 43: Yeah, but I was watching my Facebook reels and there

1568
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 43: was a guy on there that's the winning catch from

1569
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 43: Loveland over the middle. Uh, when you're a safety or

1570
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 43: there's two you're working with another safety, isn't it your

1571
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 43: job to basically separate that guy from the ball using

1572
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 43: your whole body and not tackle them with your forearms.

1573
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 43: Get get rid of both our safeties. Absolutely God.

1574
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: Watching gym, watching Vega Guys TJ side.

1575
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 44: It's funny listening to the generational references that get lost

1576
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 44: on your enviable youth. It's a grateful dead song. Yesterday

1577
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 44: Fox played lots of grateful Dead during the playoffs. Seinfeld

1578
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 44: references always.

1579
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 45: Going there this no no your youth, addie to your

1580
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 45: lack of loathing of Mike Bround, you didn't have to

1581
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 45: endure the nineties. Speaking of generation gaps, Mike ground is

1582
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 45: still trying to install Windows ninety five in this new

1583
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 45: smart watch. Not trusting Duke Tobin, he asked chat ept

1584
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 45: for trade advice, then canceled a free trial.

1585
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: I will never take any Steinfeld slams.

1586
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 3: I know a little bit of Seinfeld, but not enough

1587
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 3: so I would miss those references the other ones. Yeah,

1588
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 3: and for the most part, I know this is crazy

1589
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 3: for some people, but the Bengals have been pretty good

1590
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 3: for most of my life. It's been a competitive team

1591
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 3: for most of my life, so yeah, I do have

1592
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 3: a little bit of a different view, which I high.

1593
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 46: Hey, it's like the Spider Man meme where there's three

1594
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,559
Speaker 46: Spider Man's all pointing to each other. But it's like,

1595
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 46: it's not the players, it's not the coaching, it's not

1596
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 46: the it's not the scheme.

1597
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 2: But then then what is it? You know, they just

1598
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: don't know what they're doing.

1599
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 46: I'd like them to trade Trey Hendrickson get a second

1600
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 46: or third round pick, I guess, assuming they can pick

1601
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 46: somebody competent with that pick, mainly because I don't want

1602
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 46: to hear about the whole off season of the saga

1603
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 46: of tagging him and refusing to pay him money.

1604
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 2: So that's just why there's a lot going on.

1605
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 11: All right.

1606
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: That's uh, that's all we have time for today. All right.

1607
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: We got to get a break in a quick football

1608
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 2: in the NATI Touch and go. When we get back,

1609
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: we'll get DOWNUR three, some updates of what's going on

1610
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 2: in the NFL, some college hoops, your phone calls, and

1611
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,439
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1619
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Speaker 2: All right, it's our three welcome in since E three

1620
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 2: to sixty thanks to our good friends at Penn Station.

1621
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. It is now just under two

1622
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: hours away from the trade deadline, which wraps up at

1623
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 2: four pm this afternoon. Bengals have been active a little bit.

1624
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 2: They moved on from Logan Wilson. They got a sixth

1625
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 2: or seventh round pick in return. That is not the

1626
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 2: news of today, though. There have been a couple big

1627
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: time moves, none bigger than Ahmad sauce Gardner going to

1628
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts. In return, the Jets have acquired two

1629
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: first round draft picks and wide receiver of Donnie Mitchell,

1630
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: who was a second round pick of the Indianapolis Colts

1631
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 2: last year. So a Donnie Mitchell in two first round

1632
01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 2: picks in return for sauce Gardner. Jacoby Myers, the Las

1633
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders wide receiver, has been sent to the Jacksonville

1634
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: Jaguars in return for a fourth and a sixth round

1635
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: selection in the twenty twenty six NFL Draft. Rashid Shaheed

1636
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: of the New Orleans Saints has been moved to the

1637
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks and the Browns. Yes, the Browns Austin have

1638
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: sent Joe Tryon Shoyinka to the Chicago Bears. Bears just

1639
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 2: lost a defensive end for the season with an achilles injury,

1640
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 2: so the Browns are sending their former first round pick

1641
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: to the Bears. In return, they get a sixth round pick.

1642
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 3: Joe Tryon Shoyinka was one of those guys that I

1643
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,520
Speaker 3: was wrong about. I thought he'd be a beast for Cleveland.

1644
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 3: I was a big fan of the way he played

1645
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 3: in Tampa. He's played more special team snaps for the

1646
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: Browns this year than he has defensive snaps, and they

1647
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,719
Speaker 3: moved from him. Bears need pass rushers, So another pass

1648
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 3: rusher off the board who's not named Trey Hendrickson now

1649
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 3: less than two hours away from the NFL trade.

1650
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: Now there's also buzz around another pass rusher. Often have

1651
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 2: you seen, boy, the buzz around Jermaine Johnson. We got

1652
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 2: another one here? Oh oh?

1653
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 3: The Jets are cleaning house, okay, and the Cowboys are

1654
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 3: loading up.

1655
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 2: Oh, the New.

1656
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 3: York Jets are trading three times Pro Bowl defensive lineman

1657
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 3: Quinnen Williams. Wow to the Dallas Cowboys.

1658
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: Wow.

1659
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 3: The Jets get a twenty twenty six first round pick

1660
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 3: and more four Williams. According to Tom Pelisaro, Okay, so

1661
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 3: the Jets are cleaning up, they're restarting. They got their

1662
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 3: one win of the year against the Bengals, so now

1663
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 3: they're gonna strip it down to the studs, try to

1664
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 3: get the number one pick and get like six other

1665
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: first round.

1666
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 2: So already today they've acquired three first round picks.

1667
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 3: They've yes Kurt the New York Jets, and a wide

1668
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 3: receiver when you look at it that way, And I

1669
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 3: mean they're clear in payroll. They just assigned Sauce to

1670
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: an extension. Quinny Williams was making plenty of money as well,

1671
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 3: So the Jets, I mean, you want to talk about

1672
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 3: a complete rebuild that's happening in New York, yep.

1673
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: Wow. There is another name in New York that is

1674
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 2: being tied to Connor Hughes, who I believe is an

1675
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 2: NFL reporter. He covers the Jets and the Giants. He

1676
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 2: is also reported that teams are continuing to call about

1677
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 2: Jets defensive end Jermaine Johnson. Now, if you're not familiar

1678
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: Jermaine Johnson, I believe twenty twenty two first round pick

1679
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 2: for the Jets this year eleven solo tackles and one sack. Now,

1680
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 2: what's interesting about that, Austin is that Connor Hughes is

1681
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 2: reporting that the offers the Jets have received have included

1682
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 2: a second round pick in return. So my question with that,

1683
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 2: if there are teams calling the Jets about Jermaine Johnson, Now,

1684
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 2: Jermaine Johnson is twenty six, so age is still on

1685
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 2: his side. Who has one sack on the year, and

1686
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't have his stats from last year. Let you

1687
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 2: pull up his twenty twenty four stats. He only played

1688
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 2: in two games that year twenty twenty three and seventeen

1689
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 2: games he had seven and a half sacks, but his

1690
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 2: career as a Jet four seasons just eleven sacks. There

1691
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 2: are teams calling and offering a second rounder for Jermaine Johnson.

1692
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 2: Do you think the Bengals are getting anything along the

1693
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: lines of a similar offer for Trey Hendrickson.

1694
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, I would say they're probably close

1695
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 3: to that, close to a second rounder, and I think

1696
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 3: it could maybe over the next hour and a half

1697
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 3: get to that point if some of these teams that

1698
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 3: are trying to get an edge rusher don't get one. Yeah,

1699
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 3: and then they say, okay, well we'll do this.

1700
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 8: Now.

1701
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 3: We heard yesterday the Bengals are asking for a first

1702
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 3: round pick. Good for them, don't think that's going to happen.

1703
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:16,799
Speaker 3: But how puzzling know the Cowboys their defense is terrible.

1704
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 3: They moved on from one of the best defensive players

1705
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 3: in the league. Yeah, and now Jerry said in the

1706
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 3: moment that we can use those picks to go and

1707
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 3: get better, pick better players.

1708
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 2: Quinn Williams, and he's a darn good player.

1709
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 3: They got Kenny Clark, who's a good defensive tackle in

1710
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 3: that Micah Parson's trade. They just got Quinn Williams, who's

1711
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 3: the preeminent defensive tackle. I think a lot of people

1712
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 3: would say in the NFL, and you go and get

1713
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 3: a linebacker and Logan Wilson, who's probably going to start

1714
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 3: right away, three pieces essentially your defense. Not Kenny Clark's

1715
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 3: been there all year and they haven't been good at all.

1716
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 3: But and so far, I believe that pick that they

1717
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 3: traded was their own first round pick, so they still

1718
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 3: have the first round pick that the Packers sent them

1719
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 3: for Micah Parsons. And this, you know, two hours after

1720
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 3: I was made in front of Jerry Jones. It's pretty

1721
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 3: good move from Jerry Jones.

1722
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 2: By the way, that is a three, five and one

1723
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys team making these moves.

1724
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to put that into perspective. And when you

1725
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 3: look specifically at the NFC East, they are in eleventh

1726
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 3: right now in the NFC and the Bengals are eleventh

1727
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 3: in the AFC, but the NFC East, to be specific,

1728
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 3: I don't know that the Eagles are as formidable as

1729
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 3: we thought they were.

1730
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: Tho we could have that same conversation about THEFC nor correct.

1731
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. There's some there's some parallels here.

1732
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 3: The Giants are two and seven, they're better, but they

1733
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 3: they're not who we thought they were. And then they

1734
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 3: lost Cam Scatibo. Jayden Daniels is done. The Commanders have

1735
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 3: lost three players for the season over the last week.

1736
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 3: And you know, Dallas is in second place right behind Philadelphia,

1737
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,560
Speaker 3: and they you know, I think They've already played the

1738
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 3: Eagles twice if I'm not mistaken, or they may have

1739
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 3: one more game coming up against the Eagles. But some

1740
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 3: of the other teams on this schedule, I mean they

1741
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:03,440
Speaker 3: play the Raiders neck yep. That offense is stunk. Minnesota

1742
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 3: with their offense on Thanksget in December. The Chargers are

1743
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 3: now without Joel Delete and they just got a you know,

1744
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 3: the edge rusher. I don't know, maybe there's a path

1745
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 3: there for the Cowboys.

1746
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 2: I'll tell them Cowboys, I give them credit, and I

1747
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 2: give the other team's credit.

1748
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 22: This.

1749
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 2: Andre Parrada on social media just mentioned that this has

1750
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 2: been the most aggressive deadline day in NFL history. These

1751
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,759
Speaker 2: are major deals happening. Kudos to the teams joined the deals.

1752
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 2: If you remember like this this ten years ago, this

1753
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: wasn't the thing. No, it's really turned into a frenzy

1754
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 2: if you will, over the last three seasons, where you know,

1755
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,679
Speaker 2: these sorts of trades happened quite a bit, and teams

1756
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 2: aren't as dead said on holding onto draft picks as

1757
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 2: they are getting players that can help the team right away. Yeah.

1758
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 2: Gridiron grading posted this. The Cowboys have spent eight picks

1759
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty on the interior defensive line and have

1760
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 2: struggled to find guys. This trade makes a lot of

1761
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 2: sense to supplement what they haven't been able to do

1762
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 2: in the draft. Who's that sound like? I mean, the

1763
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 2: parallels like you just said are insane. That's exactly what

1764
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: the Bengals have been and the Cowboys give credit to

1765
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 2: them as much as we want to knock on them.

1766
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 2: So this we we've not addressed this properly in the draft.

1767
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 2: Let's just go get a dude who we know is

1768
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 2: going to be a dude for a while. Shout out

1769
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys. Many didn't think I'd start the show

1770
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,759
Speaker 2: saying that I may have to retract my Jerry Jones slander.

1771
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 2: You know, I have to play that quote again later

1772
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 2: of Jerry Jones talking about the A gaps and how

1773
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 2: to fill those gaps and what Logan Wilson can get.

1774
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into it, but he he

1775
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 2: can get a key. Now.

1776
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 3: I used to be able to do it, Jared, I

1777
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 3: don't know if I can still do it, but I

1778
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 3: what I love Tony about Logan Wilson.

1779
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 2: He can see he's a leader.

1780
01:34:56,280 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 3: And Quinn and together, oh gonna on that defense, and

1781
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 3: quinn In is going to clear out those guards right Tony,

1782
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,679
Speaker 3: and then Logan's gonna fill those gaps.

1783
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 2: And and of course Dak we love Dak. Yeah, that's

1784
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: not as good as it used to be. It's good.

1785
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 2: That's good, Jones. Let's let's take a phone call because

1786
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 2: we're going to switch to college basketball here soon. What's up, Jeff?

1787
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 5: Happy Tuesday, gents.

1788
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 2: I'm following that, Jim, good luck too.

1789
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 6: What hello? Can you hear us?

1790
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 5: I can hear you?

1791
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 6: Can you hear me?

1792
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

1793
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 38: Oh?

1794
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 18: Okay, okay. I was happy Tuesday, gents. I was thinking

1795
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 18: all this trading activity is going on.

1796
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 5: Mike, Katie and Troy are.

1797
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 18: Counting the concession revenue money from Sunday and trying to

1798
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 18: figure out why nobody's coming to the games anymore.

1799
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 2: Probably so.

1800
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 5: You're you're either first or your last.

1801
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 2: I think we know where we're gonna end up here. Definitely,

1802
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 2: yeah this. I'm not surprised that the lack of moves

1803
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 2: we've seen from Cincinnati today. I am surprised what some

1804
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 2: of the other teams are deciding to do today and

1805
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 2: seemingly go all in even if their record isn't where

1806
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 2: they had hoped it would be right now.

1807
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 18: Yeah, and a quick off market note. Getting a lot

1808
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 18: of tension up here, obviously. The guy for the Commander's

1809
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 18: got suspended for hip drop tackles today.

1810
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 2: That's big time. We're making it. We're making changes now.

1811
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 2: We're making has been some bad ones over the last

1812
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

1813
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 18: I don't know how much notice that's getting outside of

1814
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 18: this area, but you know how it was a point

1815
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 18: of emphasis two years ago. That's now gone from never

1816
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 18: flagged and just fine to guys getting.

1817
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:46,680
Speaker 5: Suspended for it.

1818
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 18: And I have a little different take on the Zach

1819
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 18: and the Chase Brown thing. Chase Brown had two very

1820
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 18: big drops in that game on Sunday, and I my

1821
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:01,480
Speaker 18: take is that Zach told him, you know, when you're perfect.

1822
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 18: You can be allowed to say that, because if I

1823
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 18: heard him correctly at his press conference, he said, I

1824
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 18: wish he would have taken the same track that Jamar

1825
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 18: took and not necessarily thrown the stuff right at the wall.

1826
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 5: Let me know what you guys think about that.

1827
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 3: That's a good point. Yeah, I think that's what's fair

1828
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 3: to say. Yeah, because Jamar was kind of talking about

1829
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want a defensive player coming over telling me

1830
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 3: how to do my job if I screwed up.

1831
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think that's a fair that's a good

1832
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 2: way to look at it.

1833
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 5: That's my take.

1834
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 18: I was on the train listening coming back from New

1835
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 18: York and Dan and Lapp were like, on that first

1836
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,440
Speaker 18: drop there, like that was going to be six.

1837
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:37,439
Speaker 2: All the way down the field.

1838
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 18: And then that first pass after the on side kick.

1839
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 5: Was a little low. He juggled it almost got picked off.

1840
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 5: But if he catches that, I think he had some.

1841
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 3: Room to run on that.

1842
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 18: And my first thought was Zach is just like, hey,

1843
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 18: look across the room at Jamar, and if you play

1844
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:56,520
Speaker 18: a perfect game even then don't be spouting.

1845
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,560
Speaker 2: Off stuff like that. That was just my take. That's all. No,

1846
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:02,320
Speaker 2: that's fair, Jeff, Thank you man. Okay, have a good day, boy,

1847
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 2: you too. One more here on the Bengals and then

1848
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna switch gears to some college whop. Scott is

1849
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 2: calling in. What's up, Scott?

1850
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 47: Hey, guys. So I know there's been a lot of

1851
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 47: I don't know, consternation about Jamar and about the two

1852
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 47: linebackers they were all considered. So Schamar was considered a

1853
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 47: first rounder. Right, I mean, it's not like they're reached

1854
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 47: for him. So and you know, the other thing that's

1855
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 47: been brought up and be to death is the missed tackles.

1856
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 47: Players when they get to the NFL should be able

1857
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 47: to tackle.

1858
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 5: Shouldn't they. I mean that that.

1859
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 47: Is something that you have to continue to work on.

1860
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in today's NFL it's a little bit

1861
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 2: different because you just don't see many teams. There are

1862
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 2: still teams that tackle, especially not in the season. You

1863
01:38:57,640 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 2: just don't see it much in season. But yeah, I mean,

1864
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 2: and there are are different ways maybe you can address it.

1865
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 2: But that's also to me part of the evaluation process.

1866
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 2: I need to to evaluate. I need to find more

1867
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:10,759
Speaker 2: short tacklers. And I think that's something that the Bengals

1868
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 2: could could look to do better at.

1869
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 47: Well, I I believe, but now you of course have

1870
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 47: probably than I do. But both of those linebackers, uh,

1871
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 47: Derek Carter and uh the the other one that on

1872
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 47: right now, Yeah, they were both good tacklers in college.

1873
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard. I mean, it's it's it's not easy

1874
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 2: to tackle in the NFL. Obviously, the speed and and

1875
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 2: and the game is so much different. But yeah, I

1876
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 2: don't know how you you pin it down, because it

1877
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 2: feels like at times they're in the right gap or

1878
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: they're in the right spot and they're just missing the tackles.

1879
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I think it's something that that

1880
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 2: you have to look to. It's it doesn't seem to

1881
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 2: affect it as many teams as it does the Bengals,

1882
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 2: and that's just hard to just yeah, it doesn't. That's

1883
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 2: where there's a miss.

1884
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 47: Obviously. I don't understand why. Uh, somebody that likes Shamar Stewart, who,

1885
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 47: by all accounts for the first Gamer two or the

1886
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:20,959
Speaker 47: preseason Gamer two.

1887
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 2: Was all world.

1888
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 47: He was looking great. They look like they are found

1889
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 47: their uh their guy, and now has turned into you know,

1890
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 47: a Pumpkins.

1891
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's fair, Scott. Thank you for the call, man.

1892
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 2: We appreciate it real quick. Also on a scouting report

1893
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 2: for Demitris Knight, commant of college solid size, good arm length,

1894
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 2: good instincts as a run defender, takes on blocks well,

1895
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 2: puts himself in the correct position, also defeats blocks with

1896
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 2: his hands. Nothing in there about solid tackling ability. His

1897
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 2: negatives poor awareness and coverage, lack of agility, and lateral movement, skills,

1898
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 2: tight hips, and subpar change of direction. He struggles covering

1899
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 2: shifty running backs in space, will get beat to the

1900
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 2: flat when covering backs, and angles towards the sideline are

1901
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 2: often poor. That to me all adds up to a

1902
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 2: bad tackler. Yeah. If your angles are bad and your

1903
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 2: lateral movement is bad, and your hips and change of

1904
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 2: direction are bad, odds all, you're not gonna be a

1905
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 2: good tackler. That was in the scouting report.

1906
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 3: I was on the phone with someone this morning trying

1907
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 3: to get a little bit of information about the trade deadline,

1908
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 3: and the topic of Demetrius Knight Junior got brought up

1909
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 3: and how during the draft me and this person both

1910
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 3: had the most overwhelmingly negative reaction because of that exact

1911
01:41:58,560 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 3: scouting report.

1912
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 2: Yep. And then they're like, turns out that was correct.

1913
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 3: I mean he the lack of awareness in coverage. How

1914
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 3: many times have we said he has no idea where

1915
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 3: he's going or what he's supposed to be doing.

1916
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 2: It goes on to say teams view him as a

1917
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 2: low ceiling prospect. He's already twenty five, bad eye discipline,

1918
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:25,799
Speaker 2: he's older than Miles Murphy, isn't very fluid and limited

1919
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 2: movement impact. His ability in open space is not a

1920
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 2: three down linebacker.

1921
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 3: But he has a really cool story, and he's got

1922
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 3: a wife and a kid, and he's married and he's

1923
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 3: mature because that that, of course is that was all

1924
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 3: everybody ever freaking talked about when he got drafted.

1925
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:44,799
Speaker 22: Cool.

1926
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 2: We now turn to college basketball next. ESPN fifteen thirty,

1927
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:51,880
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1928
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,600
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1929
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1930
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1931
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 1: It now, Loweger.

1932
01:43:03,960 --> 01:43:05,799
Speaker 2: There was some booing of the team last night.

1933
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 1: When it comes to sports, those things he's got something

1934
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:09,160
Speaker 1: to say for.

1935
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,759
Speaker 36: Just natural byproducts of and plenty of it of poor play.

1936
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Speaker 1: Loegar today at three on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1937
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 2: If you're fifty five or.

1938
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 48: Older, what covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's

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01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 48: Sports Station.

1940
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, thanks for joining in Cincy three

1941
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Speaker 2: sixty on the home of the Bengals. ESPN fifteen thirty,

1942
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. College basketball is underway and a trio

1943
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 2: of local teams were all in action last night. So

1944
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 2: let's run through this as briefly as possible. The UC

1945
01:43:55,400 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 2: Bearcats winners over Western Carolina ninety four to sixty three.

1946
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 2: Something to watch for for the Bearcat Sincere Harris only

1947
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,840
Speaker 2: played nine minutes, looked like he was dealing with a

1948
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 2: wrist injury. Sincere Harris is going to be a pivotal

1949
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 2: member of this team because he is their best defensive player.

1950
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 2: He was brought in to be a defensive stopper, It's

1951
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 2: going to be interesting to watch how things unfold with

1952
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 2: his health. Boba Miller, Mustafa chalm and Seana Bye of

1953
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 2: all eighteen points in their Bearcat debut last night. Bobba

1954
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 2: Miller had to double double with ten rebounds as well.

1955
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:35,839
Speaker 2: A very well rounded bunch with a lot of offensive upside.

1956
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Speaker 2: Here's what Wes Miller had to say in his opening comments.

1957
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Speaker 49: These guys have been waiting to get in front of

1958
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 49: our fans for five months.

1959
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 2: They talk about it all the time.

1960
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 49: It meant a lot to him tonight, So appreciate all

1961
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 49: the people that came out to fifth third. There's some

1962
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 49: positive things for sure. A twenty assist, you look down,

1963
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 49: you're happy with that. I think we have a lot

1964
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 49: of guys that can make plays with the bast sket ball,

1965
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 49: can score the basketball, can make good decisions, certainly fifteen turnovers.

1966
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 49: I think that decision making can keep getting better and better.

1967
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 49: I think our depth of our team is going to

1968
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 49: be a real strength. We played eleven tonight that that's

1969
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 49: playing a lot, But I don't think there's a guy

1970
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:20,719
Speaker 49: that didn't deserve to play. I think there's all eleven

1971
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 49: are going to have the ability to contribute in big

1972
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 49: twelve games. So pleased with the depth. I think I've

1973
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 49: said this and it's not coach speak. I ain't smart

1974
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 49: enough to do coach speak. I mean I mean, I

1975
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 49: mean that we have a group of guys that are

1976
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 49: together for the first time. We have a lot of

1977
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 49: youth on this team. Even though we do have the

1978
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 49: combination of youth and experience, it's going to be a

1979
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:49,439
Speaker 49: process to get this team where it needs to be.

1980
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,240
Speaker 49: The goal is to keep getting further along with that

1981
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 49: process every single day each week. So you know, you

1982
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 49: look down and do you guys think I'm happy with

1983
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 49: the rebounding them not? You know, there's some defensive breakdowns

1984
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 49: in terms of especially some discipline there to you reach

1985
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 49: in and make silly fouls and Jeordi's still learning that

1986
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 49: the FEVER rules and the NCAA rules are a little different.

1987
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 49: But you know, I'm not happy with everything. But I'm

1988
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 49: also I don't have an expectation this team's going to

1989
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:21,879
Speaker 49: play its best basketball in the first week in November.

1990
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 49: This team's got to play its best basketball in February

1991
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 49: and March. And I think this group is capable of

1992
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 49: continuing to improve and get getting very good. So some

1993
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 49: of the stuff tonight, it is the stuff that you

1994
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 49: feel great about because you're it's promising, things are improving,

1995
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 49: and then there's there's so much stuff that we got

1996
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 49: to go clean up. But that's the fun part of coaching,

1997
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 49: and we knew that was going to be the case

1998
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 49: with a bunch of new guys, all.

1999
01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 2: Right, that is Wes Miller. After their win, they were

2000
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 2: out rebounded last night. That's something they have to improve on.

2001
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,559
Speaker 2: And an achilles heel for this team for many years

2002
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 2: now has been free throw shooting. They were just sixty

2003
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 2: six percent from the foul line as well last night.

2004
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 2: Back in action against Georgia State. That game will take

2005
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 2: place Friday at seven o'clock at Fifth Third Arena. The

2006
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 2: Xavier Musketeers also in action last night in a close one.

2007
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 2: They played the Marist Red Foxes at the Sintas Center.

2008
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 2: Come On, Xavier took a ten point lead into half.

2009
01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 2: That lead eventually balloon to twenty, but with under three

2010
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 2: minutes left in the game, Marist actually had the lead

2011
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 2: against the Xavier Musketeers. The Muskies eventually pull away sixty

2012
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 2: six sixty two. Xavier shot just thirty four percent from

2013
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 2: the field twenty seven percent from three. They were out

2014
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 2: rebounded by Marist. The turnovers eleven turnovers for the Xavier Musketeers.

2015
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 2: It got dicey for a few moments, but Xavier does prevail.

2016
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 2: For first year head coach Richard Patino. In his opener

2017
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 2: for the Xavier Musketeers, here's what he had to say

2018
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 2: after last night's game. Well, certainly wasn't pretty.

2019
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 50: I don't know how many pretty wins we're gonna have

2020
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:04,679
Speaker 50: this year, especially early in the year. Just trying to

2021
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 50: get everybody on the same page. Did a lot of

2022
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 50: good things, didn't start well, built the lead to twenty,

2023
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,640
Speaker 50: panicked a little bit, turning the ball over, you know,

2024
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 50: not playing defense the way we need to. Fouling a

2025
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 50: three point shooter, but at the end of the day,

2026
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 50: made winning plays. I thought Jovann was phenomenal down the stretch,

2027
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 50: gave us great minutes already off the bench was really

2028
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 50: good as well. So we know, I mean, like, we know,

2029
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 50: we got a lot of work to do, but really

2030
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 50: really happy and that we got the win. Grateful for

2031
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 50: the fans. Student section was amazing, So you know, it

2032
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,799
Speaker 50: wasn't beautiful, but proud of the win.

2033
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 6: All right.

2034
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 2: So they're gonna have a lot of close games this year,

2035
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 2: says Richard Patino.

2036
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 6: It is.

2037
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 2: It's obviously a work in process. The roster not where

2038
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 2: they wanted to be yet, but faith in the track

2039
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:57,559
Speaker 2: record of Patino that he will get things turned around

2040
01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 2: and he will get this play this team playing at

2041
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 2: a much higher clip going forward for Xavier. Their next

2042
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:08,639
Speaker 2: opportunity Thursday night at the Centas Center against Lemoine. Any

2043
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:14,599
Speaker 2: idea where Lamoyne is Austin Massachusetts. I have no idea.

2044
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 2: Oh I was just asking you. They're the Dolphins. I

2045
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 2: know that, Oh, well, probably not Massachusetts. Then they think

2046
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:25,560
Speaker 2: they got lamoyets Lamoyne. Last night Austin beat s u

2047
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 2: n Y Cobble skill fighting Tigers can you say that again, please?

2048
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 2: They beat the s U n Y Cobble Skill Fighting Tigers. Okay,

2049
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 2: Lamoyne did ninety four to fifty, So they had a

2050
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 2: big win last night, all right. They take on the

2051
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 2: Musketeers on Thursday, and then finally Austin This according to

2052
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 2: this is Syracuse, New York, Okay, is where Lamoyne is

2053
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 2: finally and certainly last, but not least out of the

2054
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:57,879
Speaker 2: Horizon League. Northern Kentucky. Yeah, they took on Cincinnati Claremont

2055
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 2: University of Cincinnati, Diversity of Cincinnati Claremont. You want to

2056
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 2: talk about a statement in your first game, how about

2057
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 2: sixty three in the first half and sixty three in

2058
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 2: the second half. They beat Cincinnati Claremont, who I can't

2059
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 2: even click on the icon on the score because they

2060
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 2: just got that shield. You see, Claremont, You see, Claremont

2061
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:18,919
Speaker 2: got beaten like a Grand Canyon mule to Darren Horn's

2062
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 2: nk U Norse one twenty six to sixty nine. Here's

2063
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Norse after last night's win.

2064
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Speaker 12: Obviously a great way to start the season right for

2065
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 12: a lot of reasons, not just to win and the

2066
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 12: amount of points, but being able to play as many

2067
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,120
Speaker 12: people as we did the amount of minutes that we

2068
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 12: did and get.

2069
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 2: Some guys some real live game action.

2070
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 12: And I think as a coach, you know, in a

2071
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:44,720
Speaker 12: game like this, really what you're looking for is can

2072
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 12: your team stay focused not only how they come out,

2073
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 12: but you know, we got up very big early, very quickly,

2074
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 12: and can they stay focused on playing the game the

2075
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 12: right way?

2076
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 2: And I thought our.

2077
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:57,600
Speaker 12: Guys buying LARTs did a really really nice job of

2078
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,439
Speaker 12: that tonight. You know, big lead in the first still

2079
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 12: plus twenty two in the second half. Again, the numbers

2080
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 12: are going to be a little skewed in a game

2081
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 12: like this, but you know, two that I really like,

2082
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 12: or what we did on the offensive class, because that's

2083
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 12: something that's going to be really important for us. That

2084
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 12: that's an effort, that's a focus, that's a toughness thing.

2085
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 12: And so no matter who you're playing, you know, if

2086
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 12: you're crashing, you know, you know you The numbers may

2087
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 12: not be as high as they were tonight from a

2088
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,639
Speaker 12: percentage basis, but good to see the effort and focus

2089
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 12: on that. And then twenty six assists. You know, this

2090
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 12: this team has real potential to be a team with

2091
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 12: a lot of different guys that can score and share

2092
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 12: the basketball, and obviously we shot the ball well, but

2093
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,599
Speaker 12: I think the big part of that was we really

2094
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:41,679
Speaker 12: look to play for each other and share the ball well.

2095
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 12: And so those are really the two numbers that stick

2096
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 12: out for me or the the offensive.

2097
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 2: Rebounding numbers and the assists. So that that was really

2098
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 2: good to see. And k you also shot the ball

2099
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 2: sixty one point from the field. An impressive win for

2100
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,759
Speaker 2: the Norse to kick off their season. And now Austin,

2101
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:02,160
Speaker 2: what do they get in return? A trip to Knoxville? Yeah?

2102
01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:04,840
Speaker 2: I would hate to be Can you imagine can you

2103
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 2: imagine Rick Barnes turning on the tape? Yeah, and watching

2104
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 2: back to back sixty three point halves. No, that's hard

2105
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:12,719
Speaker 2: to do in an empty gym.

2106
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:16,560
Speaker 3: I can't imagine the gym.

2107
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 2: Good luck to Rick Barnes and Tennessee. That game is

2108
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 2: on Saturday as well. For those of you who placed

2109
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,839
Speaker 2: wagers on which coach went the longest on their opening statement,

2110
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 2: Wes Miller at two minutes and seven seconds is our longest.

2111
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 2: This might be something we tracked throughout like this. Darren

2112
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 2: Horn second at a minute twenty three and Richard Patino

2113
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk about his team just forty three seconds.

2114
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,599
Speaker 2: We're gonna we got better get used to playing close games.

2115
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 2: It's opening because I appreciate his transparence. I love it.

2116
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,559
Speaker 2: Mentioned before. The number three team in the country, the

2117
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 2: defending champs, the Florida Gators, went down to the Arizona

2118
01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 2: Wildcats last night, and tonight, number one Perdue takes on Evansville.

2119
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 2: Number nine Kentucky takes on Nichols and number six Duke,

2120
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,599
Speaker 2: and the Dick Vitel Invitational in Charlotte, North Carolina will

2121
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 2: take on Sean Miller's Texas Longhorns. We'll be back one

2122
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 2: more segment before we check in with Moagger, Who's at

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Speaker 2: Bengals news. As the trade deadline quickly approaches, we do

2140
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Speaker 2: have the compensation in the Quinn Williams trade. Are you

2141
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Speaker 2: ready for this, Austin, Yes? Adam Schefter reporting the Jets

2142
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Speaker 2: will receive a twenty twenty six second round pick, a

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven first round pick, and defensive tackle Mazzie

2144
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Speaker 2: Smith from the Cowboys.

2145
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Speaker 3: So the Jets now have two first round picks and

2146
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Speaker 3: two second round picks in the twenty sixth draft.

2147
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Speaker 4: Yep.

2148
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Speaker 3: And they have three count of three first round picks

2149
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Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty seven draft.

2150
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've added Donnie Mitchell and Mozzi Smith, who

2151
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Speaker 2: are both former first round picks. There you go not

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Speaker 2: a bad day when you look at the way the

2153
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 2: Jets have and for the Cowboys to go get some

2154
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 2: proven players on an area of their defense where they've

2155
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 2: struggled to draft.

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01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 3: I'm thinking back to the the Mike McCarthy trade deadline clip.

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01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? Yeah?

2158
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if the audio is good here, but

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01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 3: this is kind of what it's like to be a

2160
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:15,280
Speaker 3: Bengals fan.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what's the trade deadline?

2162
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 2: On one conversation or just standard over? I thought it

2163
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:22,240
Speaker 2: was next week.

2164
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 5: That's what's like.

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01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 2: I thought it was next week. Oh no, that's what

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01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 2: it's like that. Do we have time for one final call?

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01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 2: We do.

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Speaker 3: I do want to say this very quickly though, because

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01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 3: we've gotten multiple complaints today.

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01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 2: Apparently people don't like us. Oh who said this?

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01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 3: Well, there's one I told you about that we'll just

2172
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 3: keep between us. And then there was another caller who

2173
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 3: just said that we left out the Miami RedHawks, who

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Speaker 3: won last night in the mac SBC Challenge defeating Old

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01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 3: Dominion eighty seven to seventy two. Travis Steele's bunch get

2176
01:56:03,320 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 3: a victory to go to one, and oh wow, did

2177
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 3: the Miami RedHawks all right?

2178
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 2: We've shout out to Travis Steele.

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01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 3: We've had the good folks of the Red Brick legacy

2180
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 3: on many times, and we always welcome them.

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01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 2: We've always talked.

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01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 3: About Miami of Ohio clearly got a little bit over

2183
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 3: our skis.

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01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 2: There My apologies, apologies they actually had to. I believe

2185
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,920
Speaker 2: at one point last night came from behind to win.

2186
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 2: Old Dominion had a little bit of a lead at halftime.

2187
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 2: They outscored them fifty to twenty seven in the second half.

2188
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 2: And for those wondering, Miami's next game will be on

2189
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 2: Friday night against Trinity Christian. You won't believe this what

2190
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 2: their mascot is?

2191
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 3: The trolls, the Trinity Christian trolls.

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01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 2: Yep, interesting Old tct Wow. One more phone called, what

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01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:50,240
Speaker 2: do we got here? This is Dove?

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01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:51,160
Speaker 51: What do.

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01:56:54,640 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 2: You got us? On speaker? Dove in the store where

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01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 2: you have the Golf of Mexico? What's going on? Can't

2197
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 2: hear you?

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01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 51: Now?

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01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 4: Do you hear me?

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01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 51: Now?

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01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you got?

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01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:15,879
Speaker 21: I was just thinking, you know, I was born in Cincinnati,

2203
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 21: all nineteen sixty seven, and just over the many many

2204
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 21: years watching the Bengals, I just wonder why the city

2205
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 21: has not thought about asking Mike Brown to sell the

2206
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 21: Bengos because we all know he's running last the Dingers.

2207
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 21: He really don't care about really winning no championships at all.

2208
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 21: Just wanting to hear y'all follow on that because they

2209
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 21: argue to get an upgrade on the stadium with the

2210
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:43,760
Speaker 21: most horrific defense in again, what do you guys think?

2211
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, Dovi. I appreciate the call. Here's the thing

2212
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 2: with Mike Brown and the ownership here, I actually think

2213
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 2: they've they've done well to change in the last couple

2214
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 2: of years. They've spent they've agreed to spend more money.

2215
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 2: They've they've worked to get the stadium upgrades. They've done

2216
01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 2: the Ring of Honor, and I know some people think

2217
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 2: it's too late or how they they get people in.

2218
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 2: I understand that as well been active in free agency.

2219
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 2: But they've been active in free agency. They've spent money

2220
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 2: on contracts, they've gone into the guarantees, they've changed the

2221
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 2: way they operate. I still feel like they fall short

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01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 2: in how they spend the money. That to me is

2223
01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 2: on Duke Tobin. I feel like this organization, the Brown family,

2224
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 2: has said Okay, we're willing to spend Who are we

2225
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 2: spending it on? And that's where they've got it wrong.

2226
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:35,879
Speaker 2: Who they've spent it on, and the draft picks they've taken. Yeah,

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01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 2: I think.

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01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 3: I think if you think that the Brown family and

2229
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 3: the blackn family don't want to win, you have no

2230
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 3: idea what you're talking about. They want to win. The

2231
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 3: problem is they want to win their way yep. And

2232
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 3: that way is not really something that I believe is

2233
01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 3: going to work. And to their credit, they have changed

2234
01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 3: ever so slightly and sometimes it's worked out and sometimes

2235
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 3: it hasn't. But they have a very specific way that

2236
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 3: they want to do things and they think that's their

2237
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 3: best way of doing things. That's how they can get

2238
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 3: to where they want to be. But I guarantee you

2239
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 3: those people want to win. As far as Davi's comment

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Speaker 3: about the city and asking them so, they can't do anything.

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01:59:23,360 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 3: Mike Brown owns a business, there's nothing they can do

2242
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 3: about that.

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01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:26,120
Speaker 30: Ye.

2244
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 2: And they wouldn't, they'd be foolish to do that. Yep.

2245
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 2: Mowiger is next. He's at Oakley Greens, but he'll speak

2246
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 2: to us for quick gits ahead of his show coming

2247
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:36,839
Speaker 2: up from three to six on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:37,400
Speaker 2: Sports Station.

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01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 48: Cincinnati makes Cincy three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 48: Cincinnati's sports station. It's time for since the three sixty

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01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 48: quick hits on ESPN fifteen.

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01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:54,640
Speaker 2: Thirty, was looking for mo most at Oakley Greens. I

2253
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 2: have seen photos and videos of Oakley Greens. It looks

2254
01:59:57,520 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 2: like Oakley Greens is full on in the holiday spirit.

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Speaker 2: I know Mowager is as well. He's there right now.

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Speaker 2: What's going on.

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Speaker 36: Though, Well, they are full on in the holiday spirit.

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02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:07,920
Speaker 36: We're kind of in the in between. They still have

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02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 36: some of the Halloween stuff up, like there's a couple

2260
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 36: of skeletons, but the folks here now are there's ladders

2261
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:17,919
Speaker 36: like they are working hard on the holiday de corps.

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02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 36: The light display inside, I'm told this is only like

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02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:22,640
Speaker 36: one third. I should take a picture of this and

2264
02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 36: posted it's only like one third of the lights they're

2265
02:00:24,920 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 36: going to have. This is going to be like a

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02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,960
Speaker 36: winter wonderland. Probably by the time we're done with our

2267
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:31,120
Speaker 36: show at five thirty.

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Speaker 2: Today, Oh, five thirty today, shorter show because of Kentucky basketball.

2269
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:36,600
Speaker 2: What are you going to fit into two and a

2270
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:37,400
Speaker 2: half hours?

2271
02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:41,800
Speaker 36: Trade deadline show? So when the Bengals don't trade anybody else.

2272
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 36: Between now and four o'clock, we'll have a cover for you.

2273
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 36: Logan Wilson gone, there are two types of Bengals trades

2274
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:52,720
Speaker 36: or transactions where they let go of a player, and

2275
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 36: I was wondering which one this one would be, because

2276
02:00:55,400 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 36: they send a press release and there's either a quote

2277
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:02,280
Speaker 36: from somebody or there's no quote. Logan Wilson got a

2278
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 36: quote from Zach Taylor, so he's off to the Dallas

2279
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:08,480
Speaker 36: Cowboys from one bad defense to the other. But you know,

2280
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 36: and you guys have talked about it. Who's making the call,

2281
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:14,280
Speaker 36: who's making these decisions? And will this be the last

2282
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:17,440
Speaker 36: trade deadline that Duke Tobin oversees for the Cincinnati Bengals.

2283
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 6: We'll talk about all those.

2284
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 36: Things with our guy, Paul Danner Junior. In the first

2285
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:23,440
Speaker 36: hour of the show, we'll talk some on field stuff

2286
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 36: with our man Sean sayat Stats and Scheme podcast Sasha

2287
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:31,080
Speaker 36: question from MLS season past, Apple TV on FC Cincinnati

2288
02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:34,720
Speaker 36: versus Columbus, and we'll also roll through the opening night

2289
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 36: of college basketball locally.

2290
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,360
Speaker 2: Last night, Mo, do you have a favorite Christmas Carol?

2291
02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:41,839
Speaker 6: I don't think I do. I haven't thought about.

2292
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:46,320
Speaker 36: It, thinking about that winter Wonderland, Winter Wonderland. I can't

2293
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:51,560
Speaker 36: do Christmas music on November fourth. A friend of mine

2294
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:57,640
Speaker 36: mid December. Okay, wow, I get into an early mid December.

2295
02:01:58,080 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 36: I mean, first of all, like now that I have

2296
02:02:00,040 --> 02:02:02,200
Speaker 36: eight year old, like, I can't believe the Christmas tree

2297
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 36: isn't up already, so like I've had my phil usually

2298
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:12,080
Speaker 36: by the time we get to December, but typically, you know,

2299
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 36: early mid December, I'm good for it. I don't know

2300
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:16,560
Speaker 36: that I have a favorite one, never really ranked him,

2301
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 36: never really.

2302
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 6: Thought about him. I always feel bad.

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02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,520
Speaker 36: I have a friend of mine who the night of Halloween,

2304
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:24,800
Speaker 36: his name's TJ. The night of Halloween starts listening to

2305
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:29,480
Speaker 36: like Christmas music, almost exclusive for fifty five days.

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Speaker 6: It's unbelievable.

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02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,640
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm bringing this up. But I kind

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02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:37,040
Speaker 2: of admire what the Dallas Cowboys have done today. They

2309
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:41,080
Speaker 2: four years have tried to draft to improve the interior

2310
02:02:41,080 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 2: of their defensive line, and they failed. They like the Bengals,

2311
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:47,720
Speaker 2: are in eleventh place in their conference. They're three to

2312
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:51,080
Speaker 2: five and one, and they went and got Quinn Williams.

2313
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 2: I love this train of thought of Yeah, we could

2314
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 2: try to pick again and hope we do it, or

2315
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:58,560
Speaker 2: we could go get a proven commodity and know that

2316
02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:01,440
Speaker 2: we're set at that position going going forward. I applaud

2317
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:02,440
Speaker 2: the Cowboys for doing that.

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02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 6: I applaud the Cowboys.

2319
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:08,480
Speaker 36: I applaud the Indianapolis Colts hefty price for Sauce Gardener, right.

2320
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Speaker 6: And I applaud the New York Jets. Look, it ain't working.

2321
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 36: Let's hit the reset button. Yes, we just signed Sauce Gardner.

2322
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 36: He's worth more if he can, if we can flip

2323
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 36: him for a couple of picks, because the rebuild is

2324
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 36: so massive, and frankly, I think there's interesting discussions that

2325
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 36: can be had about T Higgins in that regard to

2326
02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:26,720
Speaker 36: guy who just signed a contract, But are you winning

2327
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 36: with him? And dude, I love T Higgins. It's no

2328
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 36: knock on him, and I like what the Colts did. Look,

2329
02:03:32,320 --> 02:03:36,000
Speaker 36: we're trying to win now. The AFC fields open. We're

2330
02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:38,880
Speaker 36: giving a Louanna Roumo, a terrific piece on the outside.

2331
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:42,000
Speaker 36: We've got an offense that we believe in. We're in

2332
02:03:42,040 --> 02:03:44,600
Speaker 36: a division that's winnable. We can get home games in

2333
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 36: the postseason, Like, let's.

2334
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 6: Go for it.

2335
02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 36: I applaud teams that go for it, and I respect

2336
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:52,640
Speaker 36: teams that go, you know what, it's not working, let's

2337
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:55,240
Speaker 36: try something else. The Jets have done that with the

2338
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:59,400
Speaker 36: Bengals have done You know, my little brother is thirteen

2339
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:03,200
Speaker 36: years younger than me, and he would if you got

2340
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 36: him a toy, he would break it. And so that's

2341
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:08,640
Speaker 36: how I learned the value of like buy clothes by

2342
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:09,480
Speaker 36: gift cards, because he.

2343
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 6: Can't break those things.

2344
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:13,920
Speaker 36: And so giving Duke Tobin another draft choice is like

2345
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 36: giving my four year old brother another toy. He's just

2346
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 36: gonna break it anyway, Right, Duke Tobin gets a seven.

2347
02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 36: If he's still the guy next year, I'm sure he'll

2348
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:24,000
Speaker 36: flip that to a player who's really good.

2349
02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:27,200
Speaker 2: What did you make first hand seat to the Bearcats

2350
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 2: last night? What'd you make of the opener for the

2351
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:32,400
Speaker 2: UH this year's version of the Cincinnati Bearcats?

2352
02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:34,840
Speaker 6: Not bad? Love?

2353
02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,400
Speaker 36: Boba Miller Like that that guy looks like a dude

2354
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 36: who could do a little bit of everything.

2355
02:04:39,080 --> 02:04:40,080
Speaker 6: Love Seanabayev.

2356
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:44,200
Speaker 36: Yeah, I love the intensity and competitiveness that Buck Harris

2357
02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 36: plays with. I am really worried about his wrist injury

2358
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:50,440
Speaker 36: to a they could really use him be. You've played

2359
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 36: one game and you've lost two guys that you thought

2360
02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:56,560
Speaker 36: were gonna be contributors this season. That's a problem. They

2361
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:58,840
Speaker 36: turned the ball over a little bit too often. They're

2362
02:04:58,840 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 36: gonna play faster, so you expect some of that, and

2363
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:05,000
Speaker 36: they weren't great on the glass. But I saw a

2364
02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:07,200
Speaker 36: team that could push the pace. I didn't see a

2365
02:05:07,200 --> 02:05:10,000
Speaker 36: team that, for the most part, looked disjointed. And I

2366
02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:13,240
Speaker 36: saw a couple of guys in Baba and Uh and

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Speaker 36: Sean Abayev who look like they're going to be really,

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02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 36: really good players for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: I'm always interested in your opinion on things, MO, and

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Speaker 2: I want to know your opinion on this. Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: has revealed that his dog Juni, was cloned from his

2372
02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:30,800
Speaker 2: former beloved dog Lua, who died in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Brady is an investor in Colossal Biosciences. They cloned his

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02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:40,800
Speaker 2: dog using the blood before the dog passed away. What's

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Speaker 2: your stance on cloning.

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Speaker 6: It's creepy, Okay, there's my stance.

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Speaker 2: If you had money, would you have anything cloned? Like

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Speaker 2: if you had the Tom Brady no screw you type

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Speaker 2: of money? No, okay, you wouldn't clone like ten more.

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson's captain, Trey hendricks.

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Speaker 6: Is he gonna play in safety? Is he gonna play

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Speaker 6: a corner?

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02:06:05,920 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 4: No?

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02:06:06,160 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 6: I no, voting is creepy.

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02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:09,120
Speaker 2: That's creepy.

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02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:10,680
Speaker 6: Tom Brady's gotten creepy.

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Speaker 2: He is. He doesn't look much like a human these days.

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02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 6: No, he doesn't.

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02:06:16,680 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 2: Uh, maybe he's a close I hadn't.

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02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:22,120
Speaker 6: Heard that story. When I hear cloning.

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Speaker 36: When I hear cloning or AI, I think of creepy,

2392
02:06:27,280 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 36: and I know AI is omni presidents everywhere.

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02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 2: Lastly, well, Austin, we didn't get to this today. College

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02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 2: football playoff. The first brackets have been revealed tonight. Are

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Speaker 2: you envisioning any surprises?

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Speaker 6: You know? I haven't really thought about that too much.

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Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I'm not.

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Speaker 36: Envisioning a ton of surprises, but mainly because I haven't

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Speaker 36: given it enough thought to be surprised.

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Speaker 6: I am looking forward to the complaining about it.

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02:06:51,440 --> 02:06:52,280
Speaker 2: That's always a good time.

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Speaker 3: Austin, did you have the best The best part about

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02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:58,520
Speaker 3: college football is not the coaching searches. It's not the games,

2404
02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:01,320
Speaker 3: it's not the players. It is the banter around the

2405
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:04,920
Speaker 3: rankings from now until the actual playoff. That's the best

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02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:06,040
Speaker 3: part about college football.

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Speaker 36: It is absolutely not the best part of college football,

2408
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 36: and the best part of the actual games themselves just

2409
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:14,000
Speaker 36: take a back seat. Like that's the thing about this sport, right.

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02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 36: It's kind of like professional wrestling. I went to professional

2411
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 36: wrestling in two thousand and three with the guy that

2412
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:23,680
Speaker 36: we work with, and at the end of the night, like,

2413
02:07:23,760 --> 02:07:26,720
Speaker 36: these two dudes come out and they do this whole routine,

2414
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:30,640
Speaker 36: suck it right, this whole thing, and everybody is like

2415
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:33,320
Speaker 36: losing their minds, and then the match starts and folks

2416
02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:35,120
Speaker 36: are like, that's cool, see you later, and I'm like,

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02:07:35,320 --> 02:07:37,040
Speaker 36: aren't you going to stick around to see if they want?

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02:07:37,080 --> 02:07:39,280
Speaker 36: It's like, oh, we're not that into the matches. College

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02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:41,880
Speaker 36: football is sort of the same way because for weeks

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02:07:41,880 --> 02:07:44,760
Speaker 36: on en it's been about coaching changes, who's gonna go where,

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02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 36: where James Franklin gonna end up, who's gonna be the

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02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:51,600
Speaker 36: coach at UCLA. It's like, there's some really compelling teams

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Speaker 36: on the field, Oh yeah, that's not important, and then

2424
02:07:53,640 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 36: we're gonna get to the rankings starting tonight. In the

2425
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:58,080
Speaker 36: actual games themselves aren't gonna matter it's just gonna be

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02:07:58,080 --> 02:08:00,760
Speaker 36: about Kirk Kurbstreet complaining about anybody who is not Ohio

2427
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:03,400
Speaker 36: State taking a college football playoff. It's going to be

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02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:06,280
Speaker 36: these snobby college football fans who are mad that anybody

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02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:08,480
Speaker 36: who hasn't been good at college football for one hundred

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02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:10,960
Speaker 36: years might crack the top twelve. They don't even watch

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02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:13,600
Speaker 36: the actual games themselves. So no, the best part of

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Speaker 36: college football is not.

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Speaker 2: That Austin is Ohio State the number one tonight.

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Speaker 3: Uh No, I'm gonna say Indiana. Now, yeah, that's my

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02:08:20,720 --> 02:08:23,160
Speaker 3: big surprise. Are you going to complain about it?

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02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:23,480
Speaker 6: No?

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02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't complain about anything.

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02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:27,480
Speaker 6: You don't complain about.

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02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 2: Anything not college You know what I need to do

2440
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 2: on not college football stuff. I don't.

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02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 6: We're partners and not complaining about anything.

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02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:40,200
Speaker 2: Moagger's next from Oakley Greens on ESBN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

2443
02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 2: Sports Station. MO have a great show.

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Speaker 6: Oh I'll try my best.

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02:08:42,920 --> 02:08:46,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, that's Mowagger. That was Austin Elmore

2446
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:52,480
Speaker 2: I heard O. G Stank is going to be Oakley Greens.

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02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:54,880
Speaker 2: I have a great last year Tuesday. When we're back

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Speaker 2: tomorrow on ESBN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 13: Until wise Cincinnati, make us the number one preset on

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02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 13: your car radio and on the free, new and improved

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02:09:03,560 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 13: iHeartRadio app. Free never sounded so good. ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Rec