1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:00,960 Speaker 1: To night. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of talk. 3 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Show host Michael Brown. 4 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job. 5 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 3: The Weekend with Michael Brown. 6 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: Broadcasting Life in Denver, Colorado. handsOn beecing with Michael Brown. 7 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: Glad to have you joining the program today. Text Lines 8 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: open as usual. The numbers three three, one zero three 9 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: on your message app use the keyword Mike or Michael 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: and go follow me on ex at Michael Brown, USA 11 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: speaking of Venezuela and illegal aliens. Are you surviving the shutdown? 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Because clearly the Democrats want to keep the shutdown going. 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 2: I saw a list yesterday. I don't remember everything on 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: it of things that they're trying to put back into 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: the spending bill, into this continuing resolution in order to 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: stop the government shutdown. Now, I know, it's like, you know, 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, Night of the Living Dead out there. 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: You know, you have to fight the zombies on the highway. 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: You've got to fight the zombies in the grocery store. 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: Everybody buying up ice and toilet paper because the government's 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: shut down. Planes are falling out of the sky. I mean, 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: there's you know, China's invading as It's horrible, horrible. Pay 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: a minute, No, it was a movie. I saw the 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: Democrats in the meantime keep going back and forth about No, 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: we don't want to, We're not trying to provide Medicaid 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: or healthcare or whatever to illegal aliens. Yes they are, 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: we know that they are. We don't have to. I mean, 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: I guess I could go back and play all the 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: sound bites, so you know. For example, the best one 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: is where they were asking twenty twenty during the presidential campaign, 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: how many of you, they are, like ten or twenty 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: of them on the stage, how many of you, in 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: your healthcare plan would provide healthcare or health insurance to 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: illegal aliens? Please raise your hand, and every single one 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: of them raise their hands. We know this is what 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 2: it's about, because those Medicaid provisions were taken out during 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: the One Big, Beautiful Bill, which many of the Democrats 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: voted for. So their latest Medicaid maneuver is not a 39 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: policy choice. It's actually a political scheme. So despite federal law, 40 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: let me say this again, despite federal law that explicitly 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: bars Medicare coverage, I'm sorry, Medicaid coverage for illegal aliens. 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: Governors like Gavin Newsom Mountain California, and legislative Democrats Chuck 43 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: Schumer and all of his ilk they've actually engineered what 44 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: is effectively a back door that launder's federal dollars into 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: state programs that will do exactly that. It will provide 46 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: Medicaid coverage for illegal aliens. And it's not speculationist, basic math. 47 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: Let me walk you through it. Spending on something called quote, 48 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 2: emergency services for undocumented aliens close quote that's the program 49 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: in California Emergency Services for Undocumented Aliens in two thousand 50 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: and three. That cost us, and I say us because 51 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: it's even though it's a California program, it gets its 52 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: money from the federal government. In twenty twenty three, that 53 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: program costs one point six billion dollars. In one year, 54 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: that program went from the one point six billion dollars 55 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: to six point four billion dollars, a leap, an increase 56 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: so implausible that when you start to scrutinize it, it 57 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: completely falls apart. Now ordinary emergency care usually it CONTs 58 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: for about five percent of total health care costs. That's 59 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: because we have a law in this country. You show 60 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: up or you show up, or I show up, or 61 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: the illegal alien shows up in an emergency room, they 62 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: are required to treat you. Now I show up, My 63 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: insurance policies are going to cover the costs. You show up. 64 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: If you have insurance, that's gonna cover the costs. Now. 65 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: If you over there by on the back row, if 66 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: you show up and you don't have health insurance, then 67 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: the insurance company is going to bill you, and you're 68 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: gonna have to work out an agreement with the insurance company. 69 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry with the hospital to pay off 70 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: that er visit, or they're going to sue you in 71 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: the collections and they're going to get a judgment against you, 72 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: and then they're going to garnish your wages and they're 73 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: gonna make you pay. Now, an illegal alien shows up, 74 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: they have nothing, They have no cash, they have no savings, 75 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: they have no assets. They show up but they got 76 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: a gunshot wound, or they've been involved in a car wreck, 77 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: or they've broken a leg, or they've got a fever 78 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: or they've got a cough or whatever it is. They 79 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: show up, we're required to take care of them. Medicaid 80 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 2: steps in and reimburses the hospital. So you and I 81 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: even those of you without insurance that maybe had to 82 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: file bankruptcy because of medical expenses, or you're on a 83 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: payment plan to pay the hospital. You know, the five 84 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: thousand dollars that you incurb, which would be minimal by 85 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: going to the er because you had a gunshot wound. 86 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: You're paying for that too, assuming you're paying income taxes. 87 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: And even if you're not paying income taxes. Because we 88 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: are operating on a budget deficit. Year by year by year, 89 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: we borrow about fifty percent of everything that we spend, 90 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: then you're paying for it in a lowering of the 91 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: value of the dollar for continued inflation and for a 92 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: national debt that the interest on now accounts for at least, 93 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: if not more than, fifty of the entire federal budget. 94 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: So we're all paying for this. I point that out 95 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: because that ordinary emergency care usually accounts for about five 96 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: percent of total health care costs. Do you know what 97 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: California does. California classifies more than half of its immigrant 98 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: expansion spending as emergencies. So what was once a very 99 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 2: narrow federal carve out for showing up the er for 100 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: a life threatening crisis has actually been transferred into just 101 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: a slush fund for routine care. How do they do it? Paperwork? 102 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: That's how bureaucracies do everything. The trick is in the paperwork. 103 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: By simply reclassifying the benefits, California is able to maximize 104 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 2: the federal matching funds. And what does that do? That 105 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: frees up California taxpayer money. It frees up those dollars 106 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: for illegal coverage. Federal law gets sidestepped, but taxpayers all 107 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: over the country still foot the bill. When you look 108 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: at Medicaid emergency services for undocumented aliens, the spending in 109 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: billions of dollars in twenty fourteen is slightly more than 110 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: two billion. It drops slightly to twenty seventeen. In from 111 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen to twenty twenty to start of the pandemic, 112 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: it increased to three billion. During the pandemic, it's skyrocketed 113 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: to seven billion, and then from twenty twenty one to 114 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three it dropped back down to just about 115 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: three point eight billion, and since twenty twenty three has 116 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: skyrocketed to well over eight billion dollars. The deeper corruption 117 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: that's going on here is actually structural. The corruption is 118 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: built into this system. You see Medicaid is an open 119 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: ended federal state partnership. Washington meaning you and me is 120 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: federal taxpayers. We match state spending at a rate that 121 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: varies by formula, and states have always tempted to inflate 122 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: their contributions because the more they claim that they contribute, 123 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: whether they really do or not, enables them to draw 124 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: down more federal cash. Well, California has perfected that game, 125 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: and I want to explain to you exactly how California 126 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: does it because it's being replicated in states all across 127 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 2: the country, and that's the game the Democrats don't want 128 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: you to know about. Then I'm going to explain to you. 129 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: It's the Weekend with Michael Brown. 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We're talking about this 138 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: scam going on with Medicare and Medicaid, primarily Medicaid because 139 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,359 Speaker 2: that's where illegal aliens end up getting their healthcare. And Democrats, 140 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: I guess they assume if they tell the lie long 141 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: enough that eventually a bunch of dumb people will believe it. 142 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: But it's simply not true. The six to eight billion 143 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 2: dollars I told you about. Let's go to Fox News. 144 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: Last year, the Golden State spend nearly six point five 145 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: billion dollars on health insurance for migrants, and through it, 146 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: Medicaid loophole has shifted most of the costs to the 147 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: federal government. Here to react to Fox and Friends Weekend 148 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 3: co host Charlie Herd and Chriff Jenkins. Part of that, Charlie, 149 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: is that the Medicaid is reimburse fifty percent by the 150 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 3: federal government, and when you go to a hospital, you 151 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: have to be treated. When illegal lumbrian shows up, there's 152 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: a pile of money for them to be treated. 153 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. And of course this is not a fluke either. 154 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: This is not just some one random thing happening in 155 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: one state like crazy state like California. This has been 156 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: a central plank of the Democrat Party for years now. 157 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: Everybody now remembers that in twenty twenty during the Democrat primary, 158 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: they were asked who hears supports giving free healthcare to 159 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: illegal aliens, and every single Democrat running for the nomination 160 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: put up his hand and said that they support that. 161 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: And of course this also comes after we went through COVID, 162 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: where Democrats led the efforts in all of these big cities, 163 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: including New York City, spending billion, millions of dollars, billions 164 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: of taxpayers dollars on free housing for illegals. So this 165 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: is not some random thing. This is actually part of 166 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: their intended, intentional policies. 167 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: You know this as a parenthetical, I remain truly fascinated 168 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: from a purely political point of view my Democrats. I mean, 169 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: I don't get me wrong. I understand the rationale. The 170 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: rationale is they think they can convert those illegal aliens 171 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: into voters, and so they're trying to, you know, build 172 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: up their own base. But the fact that politicians who 173 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: take an oath to uphold the Constitution, to preserve, protecting 174 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: and defend the Constitution, and to preserve protecting and defend 175 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: this nation against enemies both domestic and foreign, why they 176 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: when they continue to push this bull crap onto the country. 177 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 2: As I said, this option is structural because, as they 178 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: point out on Fox News, medicaid is an open ended 179 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: federal state partnership. The matches that Washington pays varies depending 180 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: upon the procedure. This state that all of the factors 181 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: that go into treating an individual. The California perfected the game. 182 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: The Paragon Institute describes this as a money laundering operation, 183 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: and I would fully agree with that because California love 184 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: is your tax on insurance. So when you buy a 185 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: health insurance policy, the insurance company is paying a tax 186 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: on those policies, and so they raise payments to those 187 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: same insurers to cover the tax, and then claims the 188 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: higher payment because of the tax as a qualified expenditure 189 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: that's eligible for federal matching. So the insurer, the insurance 190 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: company has made whole. The state's books look balanced, the 191 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: federal treasury gets raided, and with those extra federal dollars 192 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: in hand, California can then redirect their general revenue programs, 193 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: their general revenues into programs that Congress has explicitly forbidden, 194 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: namely medicaid for illegal aliens. So California claims, hey we're 195 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: complying while actual actually they're hollowing out the intent of 196 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: the law. The scale of that operation is staggering, truly staggering. 197 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: Some analysts estimate the estimate that California will extract more 198 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: than nineteen billion dollars in federal reimbursements through this tax 199 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: shuffle between April twenty three and December of next year. Now, 200 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: at the same time, the cost of covering illegal aliens 201 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: under the cal expansion is projected to reach just gone 202 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: is like at six point five billion. The FED will 203 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: reach nine point five billion annually by twenty twenty five. 204 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: So by the end of this year, that six point 205 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: five billion is going to easily increase to nine and 206 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: a half billion dollars. Now, if you ask a state 207 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: official in California, they'll insist that illegal aliens contribute roughly 208 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: half that amount or roughly that same amount in state 209 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: and local taxes. But that's a slide of hand that 210 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: does what think about this carefully. Okay, let's say that, yes, 211 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: illegal aliens are paying state and local taxes because they 212 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: go buy things, But that slide of hand ignores the 213 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: federal share. Federal taxpayers in Texas, Florida Colorado, Ohio, wherever 214 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: you are. We didn't vote for California's experiment, but we're 215 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: all paying for it. And even worse, the government in 216 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: California under Gavin Newsom, they've already borrowed three point five 217 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: billion dollars from their general fund to keep medical afloat. 218 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: Now that's a move that all but guarantees pressure that 219 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: eventually they'll do what they'll run to the federal government 220 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: for a national bailout. Yeah, there's a moral hazard here, 221 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: and it ought to be obvious. Blue states run reckless 222 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: expansions knowing that Washington, if it ever gets back under 223 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: Democrat control, will socialize and nationalize the losses. So much 224 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: as I at the very beginning of this program we 225 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: talked about, look at what the once great country, the 226 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: United Kingdoms Kingdom is doing in terms of socialized medicine. 227 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: Look what they're doing about forbidding that. Oh you wanted 228 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: a regular coke at dinner, you can only have one. 229 00:15:53,880 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: It's literally against the law to have two. Socialize the losses. 230 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: That's what California is doing. That's what Democrats want to 231 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 2: do with virtually everything. They want to socialize everything. So 232 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: it's their grand experiment when it fails, as socialized everything 233 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: normally does historically always has you and I will bear 234 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: the brund of that. So every Blue state, including unfortunately 235 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: where I'm sitting right now, Colorado, will do exactly the 236 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: same thing. I've watched Colorado senators as this shutdown continues, 237 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: go online, post their little videos to Instagram and Facebook 238 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: and X and talk about, oh my gosh, this is horrible. 239 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: We're hurting people, we're denying people healthcare. They never use 240 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: the term even migrants or immigrants, it's just people. They 241 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: don't want to address the real issue, and they don't 242 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: want to address the real issue that truthfully, the con 243 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: game that's going on in California is the same coln 244 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: game that's played at every single blue state. And while 245 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: I'm Att muss Well just point out that this is 246 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: a game that's played with just about everything. Let me 247 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 2: give you an example. So when I was Undersecretary of 248 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 2: Homeland Security, we had we would give grants out to 249 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: localities for fire engines, fire trucks. They might get a 250 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: million dollars for a fire truck. Well, that released a 251 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: million dollars in their general fund for that municipality to 252 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: go spend that million dollars on something else, and then 253 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: when the maintenance comes to, oh, we don't have any money, 254 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: can you help us out with that? The grift continues, 255 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: and that's what's got to stop. It's the Weekend with 256 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: Michael Brown. Text lines open three to three Wednesdaero three 257 00:17:52,920 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: keyword Michael, Michael. I'll be right back tonight. 258 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of 259 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're doing 260 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: a heck of a job the Weekend with Michael Brown. 261 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Glad, how 262 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: have you with me? If you like what we do 263 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: on the weekend, you got to listen to us during 264 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: the weekday too. You can listen weekdays from six to 265 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 2: ten mountain time on your iHeart app. Just set this 266 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: preset for six thirty khow six thirty khow in Denver. 267 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: That way you can listen to us live Monday through 268 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: Friday from six to ten mountain time. That way you 269 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: get all the Michael Brown you need. So back to 270 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: the illegal aliens in Medicare, because I'm just sick and 271 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 2: tired of Democrats screaming about This is not what we 272 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: want to do. This is exactly what you want to do, 273 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: and it's what you are doing. And what we took 274 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 2: out of the one Big Beautiful Bill was passed earlier 275 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: in the year. They want to go back to this. 276 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 2: In fact, not only do they want to go back 277 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: to it, but they want to add even more spending 278 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: to it. Things like I made I don't know why, 279 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: sticks out of my mind, but one of the things, 280 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: not forget how many millions of dollars it was for 281 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: male prostitutes in Haiti. Really, that's what we're gonna do, 282 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: male prostitutes in Haiti. Right, It's it's insane when you 283 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: think about I'd like to take every I don't care, 284 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: Democrat or Republican, every Democrat and Republican that wants to 285 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: add that kind of bull crap spending, and I want 286 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: to take them to you know, a stereotypical family of four, 287 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 2: mom and dad. Maybe mom stays at home, they got 288 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: two kids. Dad's working his butt off, working five six, 289 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: seven days a week. They're you know, living paycheck to paycheck. 290 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 2: They've got you know, a car payment made, they got rental, mortgage, 291 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: whatever it is. And I want them to I want them, 292 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: those congressmen to go to that family and sit down 293 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: in that living room and explain to them, yeah, I 294 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: want to spend five million dollars of some of the 295 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: money you're gonna it's going to be taken out of 296 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 2: your check for your state or federal income tax. I 297 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: want to take some of that money. I want to 298 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: spend it from male prostitutes in Haiti. You know, there 299 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: might be a few beatings. There just might be there 300 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: might be some violence involved in that in that living 301 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: room meeting. Not trying to say, well, I am saying 302 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: it's justified, but don't do it now. There are people 303 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: that claim that this whole medicaid thing, this whole medicaid story, 304 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: is okay because they want to argue that illegal aliens 305 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: underutilize healthcare compared to US citizens. And they claim that's 306 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: because well, they're fearful they might get deported, and of 307 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: course there's the language barrier, so they're nervous about going 308 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: to the US hospital. Well, even if that's true, it's 309 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: still irrelevant to the scandal. It's still irrelevant to the 310 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: corruption because the issue is not the efficiency of consumption. 311 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: It's the legality of the scheme. Federal law is specific. 312 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: Medicaid is for US citizens and particular very narrow lawful residents, 313 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: like someone who is here on a work vison as 314 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: a green card. There are a few very narrow exceptions 315 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: for emergency stabilization. But when California expands coverage to one 316 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: point six million illegal aliens and then labels routine services 317 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: as emergencies and then launders the cost through an insure 318 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: tax shuffle, that's not bending the rules. That's breaking the rules. 319 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: The bureaucratic bull crap should not blind anyone to the 320 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: substance of what is actually taking place here. But don't think, well, 321 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't care if you think I'm cold hearted. I'm 322 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: just telling you the facts. But the cost of this 323 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: scheme goes beyond the dollar. Every dollar that's diverted to 324 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: illegal to an illegal alien, or to illegal aliens, either 325 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: one or thousands of them or millions of them, that's 326 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: a dollar that's not available in this case, specifically for 327 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: California's aging poor, or for any other state. Seniors on 328 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: medical have grown by forty percent in only four years, 329 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: and those elderly patients are expensive patients. They cost about 330 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand dollars annually compared to other younger enrollees on 331 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: Medicaid that average about eight thousand dollars a year. Yet 332 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: their needs get crowded out by the political priority of 333 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: covering non citizens. So if you want to talk about fairness, 334 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: you get a really serious fairness problem here. Citizens who 335 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: paid into the system are now second line behind those 336 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 2: who have zero legal claim to be in the country 337 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: in the first place. It's an inversion and a per 338 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: version of obligation that is not sustainable. Nor is it 339 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: just fair. As I keep pointing out, it's not even legal. 340 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: What California's revealed is simply not bad faith by one state, 341 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: but a structural flaw in Medicaid itself. And this is 342 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: where I really get irritated, because Republicans, yes, you can 343 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: make the argument till the cows come home about how 344 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 2: you know you're wanting to spend money on illegal aliens. Okay, 345 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: we got the argument. Why don't you also make the 346 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: argument that it is against the law. Why don't you 347 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: point that out? I don't know, Come on, Republicans, grow 348 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: some cajones and point it out. Go to the Manhattan Institute, 349 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: for example. They've argued very persuasively that California's program of 350 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: open into federal matching actually encourages democrat controlled states like 351 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 2: in Colorado or your state, wherever you might be, to 352 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: gain the system. It's almost if the politicians know yes, 353 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: And in fact, I think they do know that the 354 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: system is being gained, but they don't care because they 355 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: don't want. I guess they're afraid to stand up and 356 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: say we should not be doing this because, oh, then 357 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: you're not very compassionate. I think most of you. I 358 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: think most people listening to this program are very compassionate. 359 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: But you don't want your government taking your dollars and 360 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: forcing you to pay into Medicare, Medicaid, income tax, all 361 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: your flight at taxes, all of that, and then give 362 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: it to an illegal alien when we have our own 363 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: citizens to take care of. That's why shutting down the 364 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: border was the smartest thing that Trump did, and now 365 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: deporting them is the second smartest thing that he did, 366 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: because we need to focus on our citizens. Go back 367 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 2: to the Manhattan Institute, so they make a very persuasive 368 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: argument that this open ended federal matching encourages these states 369 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: to gain the system. Provider taxes, supplemental payments, intergovernmental transfers. 370 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: Those are the tools that are used in this quiver 371 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: of arrows of creative accounting. The result is a raised 372 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: to the bottom in which states actually get rewarded for 373 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: inventing ways to inflate their spending, not because they're serving 374 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 2: the truly needy, but because they're gaining the system. It's 375 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: time for reform, and I'd like to know where the 376 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: Republican Party is about reform. And I'm here's the solution. 377 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: You want the solution, write this down. Federalize the core benefits. 378 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: In other words, all the benefits have to run through 379 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: the federal government. Take the states out of it. That's 380 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: number one. Then number two, cap federal long term care allotments. 381 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: Just cap them. There's beyond a certain amount, nobody gets paid. 382 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 2: That's in essence taking the whole Medicaid Medicare insurance out 383 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: of the picture. There's a cap. Beyond that you're not 384 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: going to get paid anything. And then lastly, the third thing, 385 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: I do make the states bear the full cost of 386 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: any optional expansion they want to do. So, California, you 387 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: want to pay for illegal aliens, then you pay for that. 388 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: Then maybe California voters would wake up and say, what's 389 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: going on here? Maybe voters in Colorado would wake up 390 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: and go, wait a minute, we already have a budget 391 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: deficit in Colorado. California is even worse than Colorado is. 392 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: So if California or Colorado wants to cover illegal aliens, 393 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: let them do so openly. Let them pay for it 394 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: entirely out of their own budgets. You know, when you 395 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: demand transparency and accountability, suddenly the cockroaches start to run 396 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 2: and hide, and suddenly that exposure to the sun reveals 397 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 2: that what you're really doing here is despicable. And the 398 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: implication nationally ought to be obvious, because if California can 399 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: get away with this, then you know that other Democrat 400 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: controlled states are doing the same thing. New York, Illinois, 401 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: Massachusetts are already exploring those kinds of expansions. And I 402 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: hate say it, but in Colorado they've already done that 403 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: kind of expansion. The risk pretty clear. Medicage credibility collapses 404 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 2: under the weight of the abuses, and once the taxpayers 405 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: realize the program is just to sieve for partisan experiments, 406 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: support for that safety net, even for our own citizen, 407 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 2: will start to erode. And you may say that's a 408 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: good thing. I would say, it's a debate we ought 409 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: to have should we be doing these in the first place, 410 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: And if we got the government out of it entirely 411 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: and suddenly it was all a private, free market effort. 412 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 2: Now I'm not saying you just do it overnight, but 413 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: over time you'd probably lower your costs and people would 414 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: take more responsibility, even those who are less able to 415 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: do it. There might be a In fact, I think 416 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 2: there would be a market for an insurance policy. It 417 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: would be dirt cheap based upon your income that people 418 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: would say, I don't want to get stuck with those bills, 419 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: so I'll go pay that. Just pulling a number out 420 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: of my butt, I'll go pay that fifteen dollars a 421 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: month premium to cover my health care. It's not going 422 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: to happen tomorrow, but over time it would. California defiance 423 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: the federal law. It's not just a California problem. It's 424 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: a threat to the integrity of the entire national safety net. 425 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: And in California they want to defend it by saying 426 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: it's compassion. Really it's corruption. It's corruption disguised as kindness. 427 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 2: I'll be right back, welcome back. To the Weekend with 428 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me. As always, 429 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: I want to make sure that you understand how much 430 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate you tuning in and listening to the program. 431 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: Whether you're listening like we have a gentleman in Hawaii 432 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: who is listening trying to find a station that's not 433 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: getting preempted by a local college game. You can always 434 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: go to my home station out of Denver, Freedom ninety 435 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: three point seven or AM seven sixty. You can go 436 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: to that station. And because this is a nationally syndicated program, 437 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: in this particular station does naturally syndicated program, we're never preempted. 438 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: So you can always listen on your iHeart app to 439 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: Freedom ninety three point seven out of Denver. And again 440 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: I want to make sure thereby understands just how much 441 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate you tuning in. Go back to this whole 442 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: concept of Medicare, Medicaid, social Security, all these entitlement programs. 443 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: As I said, we have been spending like not even 444 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: drunken sailors. We've been spending like I don't know, teenage 445 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: girls with daddy's American Express card, which is even worse 446 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: than drunken sailors. We've reached the point now where the 447 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: federal budget, the amount of money that we pay every 448 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: single year, more than fifty percent of that is going 449 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: to just pay the interest on the money that we've borrowed, 450 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: which is now somewhere between thirty seven and thirty eight 451 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: trillion dollars. Democrats want to increase that spending in this 452 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: continuing Resolution by more than a trillion dollars. I think 453 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: it's like one point six or one point seven trillion dollars. 454 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: We're operating on the basis of pure insanity right now. 455 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: And while we try to rein it in and look, 456 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm critical of many Republicans, including the President, in this regard, 457 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: because we're not really doing the things that we need 458 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: to do to cut spending now. We can't just cut 459 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: the spending off today and say, look, we're going to 460 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: eliminate half the budget so we have a balanced budget. 461 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: But there are ways to work your way into it. 462 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: There have been proposals over the decades that I've been 463 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: discussing these things where the Heritage Foundation of the National 464 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: Taxpayer Union or any number of organizations have come up 465 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: with ways to simply stop the increase in spending, in 466 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: other words, free spending at current levels, and that alone 467 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: encourages increased economic activity. The Federal Reserve, I think too late. 468 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: Pal is a correct moniker for Jerome Pal, the chairman 469 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: of the Federal Reserve. There was a point where I 470 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: was actually, although we're not going to get it because 471 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: of the but because of the government shut down, looking 472 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: for a bad labor report, not because I wanted people 473 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: not having jobs, but that might wake the Federal Reserve 474 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: up to do further cuts in the federal in the 475 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: Federal reserve rate, because we need to get these rates 476 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: lowered to spur more economic activity and quite frankly, to 477 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: reduce our costs of borrowing, which would help in terms 478 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: of the federal budget deficit. But nobody wants to do this. 479 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: It's as if we got our fingers glued to the 480 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: steering wheel, our foots glued to the accelerator. We see 481 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: the brick wall that we're driving into, and we just 482 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: keep going faster and faster and faster because nobody wants 483 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: to speak the truth, and that is these programs don't 484 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: work anymore. They're unaffordable. They are unsustainable, a word that 485 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: all the greeny weenies in the church of the climate 486 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: activists want to tell us all the time that what 487 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: we're doing is unsustainable. How about you take your same 488 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: concern and apply it to the fiscal reality they were 489 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: facing right now. Michael, I were talking during the break 490 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: about how long I thought this, this government shut down 491 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: would last. I originally thought it was going to last 492 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: maybe through the weekend. I honestly thought maybe naively, maybe 493 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: I had maybe I had too much night cookee, or 494 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: I had too much I had too much tequila last 495 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: night that I thought last night. They might They had 496 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: gotten three Democrats. They needed five Democrats because they need 497 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: sixty votes to invoke cloture. Cloture is a fancy way 498 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: of saying we're going to stop debate now. Once you 499 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: stop debate, it takes sixty votes to stop debate. Once 500 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: you stop debate, it's a simple majority. So if you 501 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: could five five Democrats, we found three John Fetterman and 502 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: a couple of others that were willing to stop debate, 503 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 2: which you could then have a vote on the continuing 504 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 2: Resolution That would only require you know, a majority, So 505 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 2: if it was a tie fifty to fifty, the Vice 506 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: President could step in break the tie. You'd have the majority, 507 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: and you could you could stop, you could reopen the government. 508 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: But setting all of those procedural issues aside, do you 509 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: know how long the current continuing resolution would last? Or 510 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: maybe I should ask the more basic question, do you 511 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 2: know what a continuing resolution is? It just says to 512 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: all the departments and agencies, just keep spending what your 513 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 2: current budget is until we come up with a budget. 514 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: We've been operating on current concurrent continuing resolutions, well, I 515 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: don't know the past five or six years, going back 516 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: to the Trump one point zero Biden operated on continuing resolutions. 517 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: The current continuing resolution is for I think a period 518 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 2: of about seven weeks. Seven weeks, we're right back to 519 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: the same thing. Because nobody in DC understands that government 520 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: is like a business in this regard. Yeah, we can 521 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: print our own money. Business doesn't go into debt. But 522 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: when businesses going to debt and they don't have the 523 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: capital or the revenue streams to service that debt, they 524 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 2: eventually go bankrupt. The country won't go bankrupt, bill will 525 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: continue to lose value in our dollar, Inflation will rear 526 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: uglyhead again, and at some point people won't buy our 527 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 2: bonds who wants to buy a bond of a country 528 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: that is spending more than half of its budget on 529 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 2: just paying the interest on the bonds. Doesn't seem very 530 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: secure to me. I know it's secure because it's the 531 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: freaking United States of America, the most powerful and wealthy 532 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: nation in the country in the world, who we're spending 533 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: money on the wrong things and we're not having an 534 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 2: honest conversation about what has to happen to decrease that 535 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: spending over time so that we can get back to 536 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 2: fiscal reality. And until we do, we'll continue to have 537 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 2: these stupid government shutdowns that don't do anything except disrupt 538 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: the lives of some government workers and cause people like 539 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: air traffic controllers or people in the military to worry about, Oh, 540 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 2: I gotta wait till they get back so I can 541 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 2: get you know, because if it goes beyond the next 542 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 2: pay period, they have to wait to get a check. 543 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: It's insanity, utter insanity. On that note, everybody, have a 544 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: great weekend, and I'll see you next weekend.