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Speaker 1: Ron Smith in studio.

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Speaker 2: Victor feels great.

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Speaker 1: It does feel good, man, this is uh, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: If if we can play, uh the way these guys

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Speaker 3: played in the fourth quarterman, for a full game, I

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Speaker 3: think I think some teams will be shaking in the boots.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not much to ask.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, you know, here's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's not the fact that Cols we won the game,

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Speaker 3: but it was the sense of urgency and the different

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Speaker 3: guys that stepped up make plays. Uh, you know, we

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Speaker 3: had a tight insighting, you know, Ingram played, you know,

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Speaker 3: down the stretch when they needed him the most, end

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Speaker 3: up getting that touchdown, keeping his balance.

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Speaker 2: But I think that.

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Speaker 3: Helps his confidence with with the whole thing, because you know,

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Speaker 3: he's been injured and he played, he came through.

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Speaker 2: In the clutch some big, big.

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Speaker 3: Catches and Carler's doing what Carlers do. Man, just put it.

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Speaker 3: Just gim a chance, and I'm just I'm just so

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Speaker 3: happy for him. How he's leading. And you know, no

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Speaker 3: matter what happens early in the game, Courland finds a

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Speaker 3: way to get him six to seven, get his hands

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Speaker 3: on the ball six seven times, turn them up field

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Speaker 3: and protecting the ball, and that to me is lead

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Speaker 3: by example.

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Speaker 2: When he got the big contract.

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Speaker 3: I remember when Damarius got his big contract and I said,

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Speaker 3: they don't pay you this kind of money to play football.

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Speaker 2: They pay you this kind of money to lead.

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Speaker 3: And Courtland the same thing when I was talking with him,

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Speaker 3: joking with him, and I was like, he's already captain

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Speaker 3: at that point. But being a captain is one thing,

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Speaker 3: but leading is a completely different thing. And doing it

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Speaker 3: on the field and it's just, you know, bo, just

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Speaker 3: the energy, the sense of urgency as a group and

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Speaker 3: the guy taking my hat off to the coach. The

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Speaker 3: play calls were in our wheelhouse and they were. There

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Speaker 3: was a great tempos as an offense. Of course, defense

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Speaker 3: giving us the chances to get the ball back and

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Speaker 3: making some plays on defense.

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Speaker 2: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: I mean they've been doing it all year and we

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Speaker 3: don't want them to have to and that's the part

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Speaker 3: it gets tough.

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Speaker 1: They play complimentary, yes, So they really did, absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: you had to rely on some things. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: Eagles decide not to run the ball.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I wanted to ask you a little bit about

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Speaker 4: the game plan there for the Eagles because we talked

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Speaker 4: about aj Brown.

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Speaker 1: We talked about his public comments.

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Speaker 4: We found out out to the fact that DeVante Smith

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Speaker 4: has also made more private comments, but similar things of

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Speaker 4: I'm not happy with with what my role is.

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Speaker 1: I'm not happy with the offense right now.

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Speaker 4: One thing you can appreciate about Corlon Sutton is that

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Speaker 4: that's not something.

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Speaker 1: At least publicly that ever gets talked about.

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Speaker 4: Right. I mean, he hit a game the Colts game,

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Speaker 4: he had one catching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that. I remember against the Saings last year.

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Speaker 3: You think he had a yes or something like that.

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Speaker 3: And that's something honestly, as a receiver in the league,

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Speaker 3: you want the football and it shouldn't be a secret

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Speaker 3: to anybody publicly or privately. Uh, these guys are the best,

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Speaker 3: two of the best in the game period, Ivante and Brown,

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Speaker 3: the winners that wins that's going on. Instead of just running,

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Speaker 3: you run a whole bunch of routes and and you're

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Speaker 3: not even getting targets and your I mean, that's that's tough.

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Speaker 3: And then my thing is is you don't have to

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Speaker 3: don't know if Philly changed their game plan because of that.

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Speaker 3: But take one, Barkie touched the ball six times. They

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Speaker 3: running back that. I was happy for that too, right,

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Speaker 3: same time, there philosophy and that what they've done this year,

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Speaker 3: And all four of the games they played, they won

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Speaker 3: them all differently. They won with a different mixture, and

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Speaker 3: it wasn't pretty all four times. And this is one

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Speaker 4: Pull ahead, I wondered, And eventually I think Beagles will

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Speaker 4: figure it out. Right, there's so much talent there, especially

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Speaker 4: inconsistent as they have been. You said they found different

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Speaker 4: ways to win, but some of that was through special

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Speaker 4: teams or defense, right, Really.

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Speaker 1: What I mean sometimes the offense has sputtered.

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Speaker 4: And another thing is and I hadn't talked about it yet,

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Speaker 4: there were no design runs for Jalen Hurts either, and

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Speaker 4: I'm not even talking about Hey didn't get into a

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Speaker 4: I was saying, nothing. He had to kneel down and

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Speaker 4: he had one scramble. Yeah, and that was it. So

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Speaker 4: the running game they completely abandoned.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to Shelby a moment ago because I

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Speaker 4: was listening to the TV copy and Tony Romo was saying, well,

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Speaker 4: when they load the box on you, you feel like

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Speaker 1: And it's like, well do he.

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Speaker 4: Though, because the Broncos saw loaded boxes all the time

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Speaker 4: with Threll Davis, and you still ran it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know what, the game plan, the way

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Speaker 3: we had a game plan was it was predicted based

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Speaker 3: on what they would do. If they load the box,

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Speaker 3: We're finna go over the top, you know, outside because

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Speaker 3: we had the weapons, right. These guys got the weapons

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Speaker 3: to do the same thing. It's just a matter of

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Speaker 3: timing things like that. Definitely, Jalen Hurst not using his feet.

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Speaker 3: That's how he beat us a couple of years ago

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Speaker 3: when we were home. I remember that he would get

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Speaker 3: fact that we had seven sacks, I think you were

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Speaker 4: Earlier, let me ask you about bo Nicks because I

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Speaker 4: every week. I really hope not. We're certainly looking for

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Speaker 4: a more complete game from him. You said it really

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Speaker 4: in all three phases. We need to see a complete

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Speaker 4: it wasn't bad like I would and rewatch it. I

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Speaker 4: was not up to a standard I think that he

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Speaker 4: and Sean.

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Speaker 1: Payton are looking for. So where are you out on

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Speaker 1: bow Knicks at this point through week five?

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I like where he is?

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Speaker 3: And I think I've alluded to this a couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks ago about having a conversation with John Elway one

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Speaker 2: And over time and through experience.

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Speaker 3: He's going to get better. He throws what I call

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Speaker 3: a rocketball. Every ball seems to be a hard pass,

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Speaker 3: to get up under. I mean, he throws are pretty

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Speaker 3: But when it's coming at mark one, sometimes you don't

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Speaker 2: Chance to get your hands right.

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Speaker 3: Things like this, your false steps, things like that, And

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to get that touch that you need,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And you got to find

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Speaker 3: a way to make those plays. He's getting better. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I loved his energy, and I don't think we can

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Speaker 3: win without that guy for sure. But I think there's

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Speaker 3: some like he was twenty three, twenty four for thirty nine.

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Speaker 3: That's to me, that's a lot of incomplete passes. That's

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Speaker 3: a lot of incomplete passes. And I think his footwork

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Speaker 2: He still got his eyes down.

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Speaker 3: Feel and sometimes he's off step. He's throws, the ball

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Speaker 3: and I think through time he'll develop that and I

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna harp on it a whole lot because.

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Speaker 3: He's finding a way for us to get the ball

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Speaker 4: Well, so he's twenty four to thirty nine, and he

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Speaker 1: So you think about that.

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Speaker 3: And that's why we only had three points, and that's

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Speaker 3: It was some throws there that we miss Uh, there

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Speaker 3: don't understand that. I'm looking to run the ball. I

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Speaker 3: want twenty seven in the game. If we play action

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Speaker 3: to him, it's going to work a little different then

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Speaker 3: nothing against the other guys. When the other guys are

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Speaker 3: in as usually wide runs. When he's in the game,

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Speaker 3: it's usually tight runs, but they're downhill. Get the first down.

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Speaker 3: And I think as the experience of a Dobbins is

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Speaker 2: Bow has to know that as well.

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Speaker 3: If you don't have a wide open one on one

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Speaker 1: Look at you flexing.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying that that I just I just don't

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Speaker 3: I just think we got to keep sometimes the situations.

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Speaker 3: And I know we got some young guys. He's a

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Speaker 3: young guy, but he's playing well. But sometimes you got

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Speaker 3: to understand the situation right before that snap that if

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Speaker 3: this is not a money, just right on the money,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get this first down or hit my check down,

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Speaker 3: get this first down and then we can reload and

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Speaker 3: then go back to the drawing board.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 4: And I still maintain the two running back system. I

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Speaker 4: think you make a great point.

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Speaker 1: I know, no kidding, you don't.

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Speaker 3: Say it's not that I don't like it. I just

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Speaker 3: believe running backs. Running backs. I remember Terrell was like

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Speaker 3: He actually does run extreme extremely well downhill. When he

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Speaker 3: And then, like I said, unless he takes himself out.

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Speaker 1: He has twenty carries you, Okay to four for r J. Harvey.

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Speaker 2: I not even in the.

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Speaker 3: Past place he runs wide. He runs a wide flare.

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Speaker 3: He runs a wide flare. He's not hooking up over

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Speaker 1: Because JK. Dobbins is your downhill back.

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Speaker 1: These guys for later in the season.

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Speaker 4: Your point is more of the immediate of I want

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Speaker 1: So I think we're not that far off.

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Speaker 3: If you've already labeled that, then you're doing a good

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Speaker 2: Why would he be any different.

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Speaker 3: It's fair if we a run heavy game plan and

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Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, yeah, but my thing is that you

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Speaker 2: He hardly ever gets.

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Speaker 3: Knocked back, And so my thing is is whoever you

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Speaker 2: In because he change the backs.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying is what we used to like

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Speaker 1: No listen, it's a good point.

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Speaker 4: It is a good point, and I feel like Sean

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Speaker 4: What is good for our team? What is good for Bonnicks?

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Speaker 2: It's a trap game.

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Speaker 1: I see. That's what I was afraid you're gonna say,

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Speaker 3: You're in a foreign country. The Jets are playing pretty

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Speaker 4: Well not defensively, I'll push you on that one. But well, uh,

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Speaker 3: Well, we didn't make you miss a lot more tackles

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Speaker 3: Offensive defense, You can't. They just chin right and you

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Speaker 2: We need to win every game we can. We gave

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Speaker 3: We could easily be five and zero, but we're not,

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. They just have absolutely nothing to lose.

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Speaker 3: We're giving up plays and we're giving them automatic first

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Speaker 3: I just want to I want that's the win game.

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Speaker 3: are keeping us on the field when we we can

442
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Speaker 3: open the game up. Uh, we can open the game

443
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Speaker 3: up and and and give those guys a break. And

444
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Speaker 3: that to me is like people have a four or

445
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Speaker 3: five six drive and we finally get him off the field.

446
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Speaker 3: On the backside, there's a holding call, or there's a

447
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Speaker 3: legal use of hands call, or there's something you know,

448
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Speaker 3: and it's usually in the back end, you know what

449
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. And I love the energy of our dB

450
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,280
Speaker 3: they fly around, Uh, but you gotta have some more

451
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Speaker 3: anticipation understand situations. Hey, I gotta move my feet. I

452
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Speaker 3: gotta get my feet moving so that I can get

453
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Speaker 3: my hand in there at the last second and knock

454
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Speaker 3: these balls away and make sure these guys are not

455
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Speaker 3: catching these passes and get us off the bill.

456
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Speaker 4: You got another segment, all right? God, I love this,

457
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Speaker 4: I do. We had gone too long with agreeing other things.

458
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Speaker 4: Theire first segment A tire first segment, A degree.

459
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Speaker 3: The people ask the people of the question, well, the

460
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Speaker 3: real I don't know this generation though, they're all gonna be.

461
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Speaker 2: On your side.

462
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Speaker 1: That should be on my side.

463
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Speaker 3: All the people from my generation gonna be on my side,

464
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Speaker 3: I promise you.

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Speaker 4: So I was telling Ride and the Break. Dave, by

466
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Speaker 4: the way, I think, agrees with you, which is which

467
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Speaker 4: is pretty fun.

468
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Speaker 2: Exactly. He's old school.

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Speaker 1: He's old school. So uh.

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Speaker 4: We found out about an hour ago that Jonathan Gann

471
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Speaker 4: and the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, who got

472
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Speaker 4: into an altercation on the sideline with the Mario de Mercado,

473
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Speaker 4: the running back who fumbled it at the goal line

474
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Speaker 4: for a touchback, and of course Arizona goes.

475
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Speaker 1: On to lose the game.

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Speaker 4: In that moment, though, if you watch the video, Jonathan

477
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Speaker 4: Gannon kind of gets in his face, he's yelling at him,

478
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Speaker 4: and he kind of hits him with his arm, with

479
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Speaker 4: his elbow a couple of times, and especially as he's

480
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Speaker 4: walking away. Today we found out that Jonathan Gannon he

481
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Speaker 4: did apologize to his team and then he was fined

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Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: By the.

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Speaker 1: No, you can't put your hands on another player.

485
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Speaker 2: Titans.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they didn't lose the game just because of

487
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Speaker 4: that plays.

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Speaker 1: What about the Yeah, it was a touchback.

489
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Speaker 4: What about the defensive player that intercepted the ball fumbled

490
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Speaker 4: it in the offense for the Titans got it in

491
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Speaker 4: the end zone for a touchdown. So if he doesn't

492
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Speaker 4: fumble that ball, they also win the game. There too,

493
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Speaker 4: would have wanted to see him over there.

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Speaker 3: Elbow, you're in for seventy freaking yards and you're too

495
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Speaker 3: cool to just keep the damn ball in your hand.

496
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Speaker 2: And people make.

497
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Speaker 1: People make mistakes at the highest level.

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't put your elbow into a guy.

499
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Speaker 3: Yes, you do, because you're trying to fire him up.

500
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Speaker 3: You need him, and you trying to hype them up,

501
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Speaker 3: and you and you're still disappointed him.

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Speaker 1: Roger on the side of the I'm not.

503
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Speaker 3: If his thing. If I would have did that, my

504
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Speaker 3: coach would dead to me. You know what I did,

505
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Speaker 3: I would have said nothing. I deserved it. I'm gonna

506
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Speaker 3: go to Twitter and be like, oh my god, everybody's

507
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Speaker 3: mad than me, you know, out of here with that.

508
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Speaker 2: This is football, first of all, a coach coming up to.

509
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Speaker 3: You and and and he's excited, he's he's high, he's

510
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Speaker 3: he's probably disappointed, and.

511
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Speaker 2: He gives you a little full arm shiver. That's not

512
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Speaker 2: like you.

513
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Speaker 3: Got on pads and everything. You know, it's the moment.

514
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Speaker 3: He's caught up in a moment too. You don't deserve

515
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Speaker 3: a hundred lose one hundred thousand dollars because he's he's

516
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Speaker 3: he's disappointed in this player, and he's telling him, hey man,

517
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Speaker 3: we need you.

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Speaker 1: Where's the line? Then?

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Speaker 3: What you mean?

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Speaker 2: Words one, it'd been different.

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Speaker 1: I've heard when you grab the face mask and grabbed.

522
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Speaker 3: By the face mask and shook them like dad, or

523
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Speaker 3: slap them or something like that.

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Speaker 2: That's different.

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Speaker 1: How is it different?

526
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Speaker 2: That's completely different.

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Speaker 1: Don't put your hands on another human being. You do,

528
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what's your role.

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Speaker 3: They're talking about professional football. You put your hands on

530
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Speaker 3: another human.

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Speaker 2: Being, coach.

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Speaker 1: The coach should not be putting his hands on the

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Speaker 1: player period.

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Speaker 3: Man. I'm I don't know what do the people think. No,

535
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Speaker 3: they gonna thank some of them. Some of them live

536
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Speaker 3: in your generation. In my generation, everybody's gonna be like,

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with it.

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Speaker 1: Dave agreed with you, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've had a coach check him before. Yeah. I've

540
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Speaker 2: had coaches.

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Speaker 3: Who had disappointed me and punched me in the chest

542
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Speaker 3: before too.

543
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Speaker 2: I've had that happen.

544
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Speaker 1: All right, five six, six, nine year old?

545
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Speaker 4: You agree with Rod that coaches should be allowed to

546
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Speaker 4: do whatever they want.

547
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Speaker 3: I see how you phrase the question. That's the set

548
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Speaker 3: up right there. If we go to court, Dude, I'm

549
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Speaker 3: taking you with me because you're a great lawyer. If

550
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Speaker 3: a coach should be to do whatever, you no, because

551
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Speaker 3: first of all, what a player hit him back? You

552
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 3: can't be disrespectful man. But he's disappointed. He just gave

553
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: him a little shoulder. It ain't like he grabbed him

554
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 3: by the face, man and scolded him and smacked him

555
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Speaker 3: upside the head or something.

556
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Speaker 1: So you said there was no line what you mean.

557
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Speaker 2: I said there was no I did not say there

558
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: was no line. I did not say that.

559
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Speaker 1: You said, this is this is football, it's his football.

560
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Speaker 3: And I don't think what he did is worth for

561
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 3: fine or one hundred thousand dollars now A positive, A

562
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Speaker 3: positive to this team, absolutely, because that's hardening, hardening enough

563
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Speaker 3: for him. I promise you that's enough pain for him,

564
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: because he don't want to see his team to see

565
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Speaker 3: him lose character like that. But at the in this moment,

566
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Speaker 3: and they all need to win some games. When you

567
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: need to win some games, man, it's all.

568
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Speaker 2: It's all. Who's bored? You need every guy? There's nothing? What? What?

569
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Speaker 1: What?

570
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Speaker 3: What possessed him to just drop the ball like that?

571
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Speaker 3: Bases ex hues.

572
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Speaker 2: We shouldn't.

573
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Speaker 3: He's carried the ball into the damn in zone and

574
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Speaker 3: handed to a ref.

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Speaker 2: Just handed to the ref in the back. He's in

576
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Speaker 2: the back. Just go handed to him.

577
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Speaker 3: You know what happened If you did that, you touched

578
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Speaker 3: your cross the end zone? You you you you helped

579
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Speaker 3: our team lose a game by inch?

580
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Speaker 2: What inch?

581
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

582
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Speaker 4: You don't think he feels bad enough about us? You

583
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Speaker 4: need to scream at him and embarrass in front of everybody.

584
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 2: I didn't embarrassed. He embarrassed himself exactly.

585
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Speaker 3: Highlight take the fools, the fools who's done this and

586
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: you just added yourself to it because you, by yourself

587
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Speaker 3: do you ran for seventy seventy four? Your run, not

588
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Speaker 3: a pass seventy four your run. You burst through the

589
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 3: line of screaming. No one's within two acres of you,

590
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Speaker 3: and you can't just get your butt off the line.

591
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Speaker 1: All Right, we got some reactions, you ready?

592
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to hear him.

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Speaker 4: Agreeas Rod, only if the players can also hit the coaches.

594
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Speaker 3: Okay, You're a player who made a mistake like that

595
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 3: is not gonna hit his coach because he understands what

596
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Speaker 3: his coach is doing.

597
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: His coach is trying to motivate him.

598
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Speaker 3: Because I'm sure I don't know when he did it

599
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 3: in the game, but there's plenty more game left. You're

600
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: gonna need that kid to keep making the place. You're

601
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Speaker 3: trying to hype him up. You're you're still disappointing in

602
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Speaker 3: the play.

603
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Speaker 2: Man.

604
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: I've dropped past it before and came back and got

605
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: dog cussed out. But you know what, they need me

606
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 3: for the next few plays. I'm in my feelings for

607
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds and I got.

608
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Speaker 4: To get over another one. They're both grown adults. It's

609
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: not an adult coach and a child. Yea, yeah, coach

610
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 4: can do anything if he wants to punch him in

611
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Speaker 4: the face.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, These are your.

613
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Speaker 1: People, your people.

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Speaker 3: If a coach punch him in the face and the

615
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Speaker 3: coach got to have to get punched back in the

616
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Speaker 3: face and that ain't gonna happen, that's not, that's not,

617
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Speaker 3: that's then then you got a complete division of the team.

618
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, no, no, unit.

619
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Speaker 1: These are your people.

620
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Speaker 4: Man.

621
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Speaker 1: They're saying, like, hey, you know they're calling me soft.

622
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: Here you are. I'm not in this case. I'm not.

623
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Speaker 2: Oh mind giving oh game, find him a hundred thousand.

624
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Speaker 2: You wanted to find two hundred thousand, didn't you.

625
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: You're a time X watch in a digital age, my friend.

626
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 2: Let's see here, Apple watch? Is the batteries lower all

627
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: the time? Though? Apple? Send me another watch?

628
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Speaker 1: Stunning, stunned.

629
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Speaker 4: I was right all the way. I lovely he's on

630
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Speaker 4: Koa Rod all day. I'm with mister Smith one hundred percent.

631
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Speaker 4: I'm with Ryan.

632
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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, I was I read. I've just read

633
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Speaker 1: that I was right. Okay, Rocos were your favorite Rod

634
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Speaker 1: Smith's studio. I'm with Rod, uh this one. My high

635
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: school coach used to grab my face mask and yell

636
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Speaker 1: at me.

637
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the high school coaches.

638
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Speaker 3: Now that's what they need to put some regulation at

639
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Speaker 3: high school coaches.

640
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Speaker 2: They freaking lose it.

641
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Speaker 1: Ryan, you're twisting his words. I'm not.

642
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Speaker 3: Who said that. Who said that? I want to they Yeah,

643
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Speaker 3: you did twist my word time. My coach can do

644
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Speaker 3: anything to a player.

645
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 2: Come on, man, I.

646
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Speaker 1: Asked you what the line was, and you didn't define it.

647
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Speaker 3: I just said you can't grab him by his face

648
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Speaker 3: mask and shake him and smack him ups out of heady.

649
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Speaker 4: You said it was okay that he put his elbow

650
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Speaker 4: into him.

651
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 2: He wouldn't. He ain't like he hauled off and punched him.

652
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Speaker 2: He didn't punch him close to him. His elbowing the

653
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Speaker 2: vicinity of what he did.

654
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Speaker 3: Now, if he came from back then got running start

655
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Speaker 3: in form shivering him was.

656
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Speaker 2: Did some w w W E wrestling move. That's different.

657
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Speaker 3: Then he should kick his coaches. But right there on

658
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Speaker 3: the spot, that's different. But I'm just sorry. I just

659
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Speaker 3: think the coach was disappointed. I think the coach was hurt.

660
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Speaker 3: He's a what is the type of I mean, what

661
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: is the Cardinals record. He's trying to win some games.

662
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Speaker 3: He's a new coach there as is. He's trying to

663
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Speaker 3: win some games. You we didn called the home run

664
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Speaker 3: and you gave in the ball back.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are two and three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they would be three and two if he wouldn't

667
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: have did that one inch. You can't just run your

668
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: butt into the end zone, hand the ball to the ref.

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Speaker 3: You gotta drop it.

670
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Speaker 4: All cool?

671
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Speaker 2: Think you all cool? I saw Sean Jackson do that

672
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Speaker 2: one time. I saw a bunch of guys.

673
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Speaker 3: There's a whole highlight tape of guys who were too cool.

674
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Speaker 3: One for the coach to running back Jonathan Taylor against

675
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Speaker 3: Rgoles last year.

676
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Speaker 4: They had another Colt do it this year too, Ady Mitchell,

677
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Speaker 4: It is my thing. Why no, it doesn't make any

678
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Speaker 4: sense to me either.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: So you're of the opinion, and I just say, if

681
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Speaker 4: I understand this, you're of the opinion that in a loss,

682
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: usually it can come down to one specific play, Like

683
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Speaker 4: when you get to an end of a game, you're like,

684
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Speaker 4: hey man, one play was the only difference between them,

685
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 4: not a lot of singular moments, not a lot of Hey,

686
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Speaker 4: the defense could have done this, thought could have done this. No,

687
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: it's that play and that play alone cost him the game.

688
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Speaker 2: Put it.

689
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Speaker 3: Put it like this, if I would have did that,

690
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: I would have put it on me that I'm wired

691
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 3: different like that too, because those those are moments you

692
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: can't get back. Dude, it's hard going to touch down

693
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: in the NFL. But these guys, they're so cool that

694
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: you can't just get your butt in the end zone

695
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: real quick. Just go get an end zone and didn't

696
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Speaker 3: go do a dance or something.

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Speaker 2: Do it.

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Speaker 3: Go get an endzone and punt the damn ball in

699
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Speaker 3: the stands. I don't care, but go get in the

700
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: end zone first. But he didn't have no reason think

701
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 3: about it. If the if the guy wouldn't even came

702
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 3: behind him, he still threw it out of bound.

703
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: He threw it out of bounds, it wouldn't have been

704
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Speaker 2: a touchdown. He's a way even though the guy was

705
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Speaker 2: he's slowing down.

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Speaker 3: First of all, the guy coming up behind him was

707
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: trying to strip him. But why you can't just get

708
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: your butt at the end zone real quick? Stop Two

709
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 3: three yards an end zone. Didn't go do whatever you

710
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: want to do, flip it out of the bounds in

711
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Speaker 3: the back of the end zone. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Well, apparently the NFL agrees with basically most of the

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Speaker 4: text line.

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Speaker 3: You know know why because they because it's on tape

715
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: and everybody's gonna be all up in the arms. You

716
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: got half of the people act like you. You got

717
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: half of the people acting like me. So the NFL

718
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: want to make it seem like they're doing something. Hey,

719
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Speaker 3: find him one hundred thousand dollars. He's probably the owner

720
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: of the Club's gonna probably pay it and be like, hey, look, man,

721
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: we need to win some games.

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you.

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Speaker 4: Listen, you guys don't have to call me names. I

724
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: think it's just a fun debate. And even when I'm

725
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 4: not here, yeah, Rod and I are having some fun here,

726
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 4: so oh.

727
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, having fun. But I still think the coach is

728
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 3: just a boy. He was close to him. He gave

729
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: him a little form sugar. He's disappointed.

730
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Speaker 2: It's like when your dad is disappointed in you. It

731
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Speaker 2: just hurts.

732
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Speaker 3: Just because he's disappointed. It ain't it ain't the fact

733
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Speaker 3: that he spank you. It's the fact that he's disappointed.

734
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Speaker 2: That's all it is.

735
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Speaker 1: So you're saying a coach is spanking player, should find

736
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Speaker 1: your parents.

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Speaker 3: If their parents know what I'm saying, I would have

738
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Speaker 3: been Bobby broke.

739
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Speaker 4: So a public a public spanking public.

740
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Speaker 3: God said the public, he apologize. Okay, I just think

741
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Speaker 3: I just think he's justified in mind.

742
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well the text line you.

743
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: See the play, You see the other players I wanted

744
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: if I think one of the lineman had it arms

745
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: around the kid, you know, like, hey.

746
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: Look, bro, we need you.

747
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: That's right.

748
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: When the coach came up, that's more important than anything.

749
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Speaker 3: The team is still with you. The guys are still

750
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: want the coach still believes that. Yeah, Like he did

751
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: probably get some more cars after that.

752
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if he got it.

753
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: I think that was about it for him.

754
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Speaker 3: But think about it, that's the only highlight that the

755
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: Cardinals had for that day was that play. We joke

756
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: a lot on the show between Ryan. Now, we've been

757
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: doing it for years now, like like four years now,

758
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: we've been doing it till but yeah, I mean.

759
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Speaker 4: It's just fun. Yeah, we're just having fun. It's just

760
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: a bait. It's a sports debate. There's no reasons.

761
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rhys wrong, but it's fine.

762
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Speaker 4: There's some people, by the way, after Weds a break,

763
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Speaker 4: of course they went to after Weeds break, they started

764
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: disagreeing with you. But that's fine, it's fine. It's it's

765
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Speaker 4: part of the part of the discussion.

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Speaker 2: Y'all saw too. I'm just let's go, let's let's know

767
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Speaker 2: what were talking about.

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Speaker 1: We talking about some good stuff just for yeah Moss.

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Speaker 4: And so there's been a big discussion with the fan

770
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Speaker 4: base and it's remarkable, you know, coming off of such

771
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Speaker 4: a big win.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I did think some of the stuff.

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Speaker 4: Levied against Riley Moss was probably a little bit out

774
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Speaker 4: of bounds because you notice, by the way in the

775
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Speaker 4: third and into the fourth quarter, they weren't throwing his

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Speaker 4: way anymore. Now, maybe that's because VJ was mixing things,

777
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 4: some things up he was doing, you know, there's a

778
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Speaker 4: little more zone I think on the back end, but

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Speaker 4: they weren't. They weren't targeting Riley Moss as much as

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Speaker 4: they were, So he was obviously not quite the sieve

781
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Speaker 4: that a lot of people were painting in the first

782
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Speaker 4: first part of the game.

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Speaker 1: What do you notice with his technique is there is

784
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Speaker 1: it a technique?

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Speaker 4: Thing?

786
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: Is it's I you know what the play defensive back?

787
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Speaker 3: And then trust me, I've talked to the one of

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Speaker 3: the greatest, well one of the greatest bungles ever that

789
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: played that position with the champ Bailey Champlain in group text.

790
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: We chat back and forth and I'm asking him, uh,

791
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: and I'm talking. I just see the anticipation. You got

792
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: to have anticipation in this game. And no down and distance.

793
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 3: Understand the situations. You got third and long. You have

794
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: no business bumping nobody. He goes up and bumping, we

795
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: end up getting up, giving up seventeen yards, I mean

796
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: thirty and seventeen. They end up getting the first down.

797
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: Those types of moments. You got to understand the game.

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00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: One thing is he's a young guy, second year in

799
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: the league. We really if we're gonna win more games,

800
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: we're gonna need him. Uh in all aspects of the game.

801
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: He plays great football. But I think the anticipation and

802
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: and and using your feet more than your hands. A

803
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: lot of times you get these guys that get the

804
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: grab they get grabby when a guy gets up on them,

805
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: they get grabby. You know, what make make those feet work,

806
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: make those feet work, and use those hands when you

807
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: need them, you know, at.

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Speaker 1: The last minute, so you're not out on Riley Mott

809
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Speaker 1: truly not.

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Speaker 3: I just I just think there's some there's some technique stuff.

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Speaker 3: Some of it is the experience, experience, know who you're

812
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: going against and know what concept they like to run

813
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: on down and turn down. The this is you can

814
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: anticipate some of these outroutes, you can anticipate some of

815
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: these go routes, and he's phased, and all of a

816
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: sudden you're back there before they run it. Champ Bailey

817
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: was one of the best at that. I played with

818
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Speaker 3: Ray Crockett and some of the I played against, I

819
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: think six Hall of Fame defensive backs and shooting Deon

820
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: Sanders and these guys. They knew where balls were gonna

821
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: go when the ball was snap and that's what made

822
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: them great.

823
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: That's why they had so many interceptions.

824
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 4: Well, and that's another thing, and Ben and I talked

825
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: about that a little bit during Broncos React, is that

826
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 4: if you're gonna be getting this many targets opposite passer tan,

827
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: there should be some opportunities for some ways that his

828
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: thing that one interception one season, But that's how.

829
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Speaker 3: That's how you get them to stop coming your way.

830
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: You start taking some of them to the house the

831
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: other way. You start breaking up almost majority of those passes.

832
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: You know they catching some short ones on you and

833
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: you're making the play great, but you can't give up

834
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: those bombs and let them know that this is the

835
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: guy we're gonna target, because you notice what they'll do.

836
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: If so Tan is going with one guy, they're working

837
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: the opposite side. That's what I've seen this season, and

838
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 3: he's got to anticipate that and know they're coming after me.

839
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you pay.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed chopping it up with you. Hopefully we had

841
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: to chop it up next Tuesday with Win absolutely moving

842
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: forward to that.

843
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Speaker 4: Greg Smith filling in on Broncos Country Tonight with Nick Ferguson,

844
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Speaker 4: Steve Atwater and Studio coming up next