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Speaker 2: Because people have got to know whether or not they're

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Speaker 1: That's too good. They're similar, that's very similar. So politically

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Speaker 2: Now you ain't here. We know that. You kidding me?

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Speaker 1: What thirty seven degrees and gross and slushy and icy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's no chance he's here. Well, you

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Speaker 3: He said he dropped it the first game and that

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Speaker 2: As the joker said.

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Speaker 1: You're the guy, you're the vote. I mean, you're the

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Speaker 1: I've got it off the wall. Question before we get

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Speaker 1: of trades of coaches in the NFL. Refresh my memory.

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Speaker 4: You know, I kind of think there was one traded

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Speaker 1: Was, but nothing comes to mind. You know, football don't

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Speaker 2: In fact, I want to read you guards.

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Speaker 1: He brought this to my attention and it is a

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Speaker 1: One Canada has way fewer youth boys playing hockey than

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Speaker 2: So have you heard any about any of these things?

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Speaker 4: Well. There were a couple of things, but I, frankly,

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Speaker 4: That's just the way things fall, you know, in the draw.

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Speaker 2: Did the best team win?

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Speaker 1: What do the is there a is there a distinction

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Speaker 1: That's if I recall it wasn't that a lot of

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Speaker 1: You know, it's hard for me to believe being of Herbie,

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Speaker 1: Rapids wants to know what you think the Olympic Games

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Speaker 1: in terms of odds on favorites. The Finland team, he writes,

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Speaker 2: Seven six three seven six three.

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Speaker 1: Guy rights, different tastes are not why we have homes

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Speaker 2: Very well playing.

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Speaker 1: my friend. Happy New Year to you and yours. Mace

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk with to Mace from Florida tomorrow

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Speaker 2: No, you're sadly, there's some truth to that.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna buy him. I'm gonna buy him one with zippers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting there. It's slow, but sure. Thanks Luigi.

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Speaker 1: Lou Nanny kind enough to join us via the Connectico

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Speaker 2: Year after year after year.

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Speaker 1: Guards he does remind me, Mason your face tomorrow, but

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Speaker 1: go back now from someone who is listening to our

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Speaker 1: conversation with Kevin Seffert. The first segment with Seaffert was

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Speaker 1: largely about what I like to call Wagnerian opera at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position for the Vikings, this passion play that

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Speaker 1: continues to play out in front of our eyes and

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Speaker 1: not really go the way it was supposed to go.

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Speaker 1: And he was exasperated. He said, do you understand that

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Speaker 1: the season is over? Are you going to keep talking

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Speaker 1: about the Vikings quarterback position? And I didn't have a

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Speaker 1: chance to say what I would say to him, which

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Speaker 1: is the answers yes only for the next nine months.

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Speaker 1: And I'll illustrate exactly why. A couple of minutes ago,

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Speaker 1: in the wake of the news that John Harbaugh apparently

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Speaker 1: has been dismissed by the Baltimore Ravens or he won't

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Speaker 1: he will not be coming back. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: his contract situation was. I assume he was still under contract.

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Speaker 1: The first text we got six to one to two. Guy,

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Speaker 1: does this leave the door open for Lamar Jackson to

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Speaker 1: come to Minnesota? Now that doesn't mean that's possibility, but

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Speaker 1: it means that's how folks are wired in this town.

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Speaker 2: Make no mistake about it.

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Speaker 1: Whether the Vikings win or lose, they are the top

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Speaker 1: dog in the Twin Cities. I'm not saying anything all

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Speaker 1: that I think revelatory or controversial. It's just that's the

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Speaker 1: nature of it. And if that's not something that interests you,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. You might be ready to move on. But

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Speaker 1: my god, the season just ended Sunday. The playoffs are

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Speaker 1: just about to begin. So generally there's a post mortem

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Speaker 1: period where you go, Okay, what went right, what went wrong?

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Speaker 1: Where do we go from here? And yet I think

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Speaker 1: again that quote illustrated just how deep into the mindset

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Speaker 1: of your average Minnesota sports roube the Vikings will continue

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Speaker 1: to be whether the season has been a success, a

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Speaker 1: seasonal boost, or the seasonal boost has been lost because

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Speaker 1: for us it has obviously.

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Speaker 2: Because there will be no postseason as well.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea on Lamar, because I mean, my

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Speaker 1: working assumption would be if the Ravens did this, it's

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Speaker 1: more likely their intent is to find somebody else who

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Speaker 1: might be more quarterback friendly with Lamar, a quarterback wishing

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Speaker 1: to win with him and maybe gets you know, you'll

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Speaker 1: reach a new agreement with him. I think otherwise, you

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Speaker 1: keep if you think somebody's got to go. Then maybe

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Speaker 1: you say, well, no, we keep the quarterback or the

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Speaker 1: head coach because we believe in them, and maybe we

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Speaker 1: do try something else at the quarterback position. So anything's possible.

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Speaker 1: The name's going to come up just because of the

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Speaker 1: way it ended there. I don't know how Lamar feels.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how tight Lamar was with John Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he'll say, well, I don't want to mess with

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Speaker 1: anybody else. I want out. Who's to say it? It's

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Speaker 1: way too early. I'm assuming in a matter of minutes

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Speaker 1: there will be names circulating to replace John Harbor. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, because he's been there, like I said, since

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Speaker 1: the early two thousands.

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Speaker 3: Crazy run. Yeah, he was the second longest tenured coach.

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Speaker 3: The only one that's been there longer is Tomlin, who

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Speaker 3: played on Sunday now, I go, Yeah, just a hillacious game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you caught much I did it.

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it some yesterday while you were in

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Speaker 1: Ann Arbor with the Gopher women's basketball team, and it really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, all the cliches do apply that you can't

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Speaker 1: finish a regular season, you can't script.

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Speaker 2: It any better.

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Speaker 1: Than that game played out the way it played out,

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Speaker 1: and that's the best Aaron Rodgers has played all season.

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Speaker 2: It was vintage. I found myself pulling hard for him.

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Speaker 2: It was hard not to. I loved the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Is either turner fifty or turn or seventy five yards passing.

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Speaker 1: He was throwing, not just short the dump off stuff

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Speaker 1: right down the field. It was almost like the ravens

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Speaker 1: kept going. They said, all right, well we'll drive again. Yep,

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Speaker 1: and hence that's going out. He's mad at the coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it had the whole thing. It was great.

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Speaker 1: Family be shown every five minutes. I loved that big

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Speaker 1: catch he did great. It had to feel again painful

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Speaker 1: when you see that Aaron Rodgers, because it's hard human

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Speaker 1: nature would be.

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Speaker 2: You're going to project, well what if? What if?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: Now, there's no guarantee it would have gone the same way.

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Speaker 2: We get it.

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Speaker 1: Our line was terrible and he might have been killed

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Speaker 1: five games into the season, but we saw it Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Why I would have taken the plunge. I would have

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Speaker 1: taken the polar plunge on uh A Rodge for one

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Speaker 1: more year. Maybe we get him next year. Does he

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Speaker 1: have to go back to Pittsburgh even though he loves Tomlin. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he speaks very highly of Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: Everybody does. Everybody likes him. Very true.

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Speaker 3: But I brought up that game because Lamar was asked

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Speaker 3: about it immediately after. You know, Lamar is one of

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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks that he doesn't you know, change or doing anything.

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Speaker 3: He just pulls up to the podium like Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: does that too. And somebody asked him, do you want

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Speaker 3: to work with Harbaugh again? And he basically deflected and said,

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Speaker 3: the game just ended. I'm not talking about that right now.

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Speaker 3: The game just ended.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't an endorsement, but it was I thought an

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Speaker 2: interesting answer.

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Speaker 1: I agree, and I think for better for worse, it

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Speaker 1: is likely that you're going to go offense this time, right,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna you if you got an asset like that QB,

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Speaker 1: who can sometimes be his own worst enemy but is

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Speaker 1: obviously very gifted and talented. Hell of a fourth down

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Speaker 1: throw he made on the what should be that's a

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Speaker 1: great point. Then you're going to say, we got to

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Speaker 1: get We can't get a like a game manager head coach.

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Speaker 2: We got to get a.

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Speaker 1: Head coach who's got a specialty and maybe a specialty

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Speaker 1: of running an offense. I guess the Vikings could offer Koc, you know,

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Speaker 1: for I mean, what what would we accept it?

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Speaker 4: Would we?

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Speaker 2: Would we insist upon two number ones for him?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you also throw in Dereck Henry because

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Speaker 3: Koc is not gonna want to use him.

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Speaker 2: It's a very good point. He's not gonna want him.

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Speaker 2: So did he should be gettable?

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Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: He should be cheap, very cheap to get it right,

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Speaker 1: he could be part of the trade. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure somebody else had a good Oh. I'd ask Louis

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Speaker 1: whether in the NHL any big name coach that ever

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Speaker 1: been traded? And he couldn't come up with anything. John

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Speaker 1: and Saint Paul I forgot to run this by. Louis

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Speaker 1: said that the Quebec nordis yep traded? Is it Michelle?

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Speaker 1: Is it brez or Berger? It's spelled b r E G.

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Speaker 2: Ok?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to the Rangers for cash and a draft pick.

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Speaker 1: How far back does that go?

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Speaker 3: That was, according to the quick AI synopsis, is fifty

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Speaker 3: to fifty at best. That was allegedly nineteen eighty seven. Ok,

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Speaker 3: it's almost forty years ago. I should have mentioned it

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Speaker 3: to him. I'm sure he would have remembered the name,

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Speaker 3: and he was probably in on the deal somehow and

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Speaker 3: just forgot. Yeah, that's also probably true. So we now

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Speaker 3: have is it seven openings now with the Harbor News

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Speaker 3: have to count him up. Yeah, there's six going into today.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's been hired yet. Right, Allegedly your guy,

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Speaker 1: the former Brown's head coach Stefanski, is now at the

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Speaker 1: top of the Giants list.

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Speaker 2: Now will that change? I mean, I have to believe.

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh will be a popular choice somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Correct. He wants to keep coaching. He wants to keep.

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Speaker 1: Coaching, Yeah, that's true. Maybe he wants to take a

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Speaker 1: year off. I don't know, you know how many years

583
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Speaker 1: they owe him or any of that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals, Raiders, Browns, Falcons, Titans, Giants and now Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Does the long standing hitting miss Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray interest you not really in the thread the

587
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Speaker 1: needle challenge for the adding a veteran to the Vikings

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Speaker 1: who wouldn't necessarily be anointed as the starter, but at

589
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Speaker 1: least would have starting experience. I don't I don't think

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Speaker 1: I touch him. I'm also now even know what his

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Speaker 1: money situation would be. I assume that would be wor

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Speaker 1: out where maybe Arizona pays for a decent amount of that.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think i'd want to get near him.

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Speaker 3: No, And I don't if he has to play, how's

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Speaker 3: Kaoc going to make him play?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it has to be a good fit whatever

598
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Speaker 3: we think of it. We know how Koc likes to roll.

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Speaker 3: He was trying to make Josh Dobbs a pocket passer

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Speaker 3: correct two years ago like he's got now. Maybe this

601
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Speaker 3: year with McCarthy with nine has humbled him a little

602
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Speaker 3: bit and not humbled him that's not the right word,

603
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Speaker 3: but had him rethink some things that I can't just

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Speaker 3: plug my system these guys into my system and developed

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Speaker 3: them all the same way. And I'm sure it's more

606
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Speaker 3: complicated than what I'm making it out to be, but

607
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Speaker 3: it always seems like we're trying to get to, you know,

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Speaker 3: the three hundred level courses before you've figured out college rhetorick. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and so that would I don't think those two would

610
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Speaker 3: be a good match. Maybe I'd be wrong, but I

611
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Speaker 3: just don't think it would be if.

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Speaker 1: The Baltimore kicker makes that field goal, does Timin get

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Speaker 1: fired and does Aaron Rodgers not even think about coming

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Speaker 1: back and he's done?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if who's just I mean, it was

616
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Speaker 2: that close.

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Speaker 1: I was convinced that, you know, you could see it

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Speaker 1: in the look on Rogers face, You're going, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: after everything I've done, everything I've done and everything, I'm

620
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Speaker 1: gonna end up getting kicked to the teeth again. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting anybody should have felt sorry for Aaron Rodgers,

622
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Speaker 1: but that's certainly the way it looked. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Tomlin. I tend to think Tomlin was not

624
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Speaker 1: in danger either way of being dismissed. But it isn't

625
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Speaker 1: an interesting what if for sure, and particularly as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to Rogers saying, Okay, I'm not gonna put my

627
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Speaker 1: body through this again.

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Speaker 2: It's over. What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: We we we didn't even make the postseason? And now

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Speaker 1: I think, who do they play?

631
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Speaker 2: Houston?

632
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they host Houston because they won the division. So

633
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: do we know who's favored in that game. I'm gonna

634
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Speaker 3: bet the Texans might be. I've got ESPN pulled up

635
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: right now they go with DraftKings. So they've got Houston

636
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: as three point favorites right now. Okay, that makes sense

637
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: because that's that's a chat.

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Speaker 1: They are really good defensively, Yep, that's the Monday dice

639
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: them up. Then there's no telling where the Steelers are going,

640
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: and there's no telling what he could have done here.

641
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: Also, they're going to get their receiver back, right, that's right.

642
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 3: The two game suspension, yes, after he hit the fan

643
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: not ideal. He's going to be back, Dan mac Jones,

644
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: there is your thread. That's Western Wisconsin lab guy. We

645
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: have talked about him before. I don't know if you

646
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Speaker 3: could thread the needle with him because I don't know

647
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Speaker 3: if you can pay him enough, and I don't know

648
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: if you can. My guess is he's going to have

649
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: an offer that's more sure thing in terms of playing

650
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: time than being brought in here as a guy who's

651
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 3: competing for the job. I also think there is a

652
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Speaker 3: chance you turn it into more of a circus with him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Would he make sense? Yes, after what

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Speaker 2: we saw from him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we like to give the quarterback

656
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Speaker 1: whisper the credit for rehabilitation, rehabilitating all these quarterbacks, but

657
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Speaker 1: including you know, Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones the short

658
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: time he was here. But maybe it's San Francisco should

659
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Speaker 1: be getting a decent amount.

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Speaker 2: Of that question.

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Speaker 1: Donald came from there to here, and Shanny knows what

662
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Speaker 1: he's doing with QBS and and look what Jones has

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Speaker 1: done under the tutelage of the same coaching stet.

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Speaker 3: Donald talked a ton about yeah, the year behind brock

665
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Speaker 3: perty and with Shanahan, what that meant for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm reminded Jones, I think is under contract, So

667
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Speaker 1: it would have to be a trade in that case.

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Speaker 2: So it's not necessarily the money.

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Speaker 1: Or would it be is Daniel Jones, No, Matt Jones, oh,

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Speaker 1: mac jen Jones? Yeah, yeah, and I even then I

671
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Speaker 1: think ultimately there'd be there probably would have to be

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Speaker 1: money involved one way or another. This is happening not

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Speaker 1: for the last Well, you know, there's a scenario that's

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Speaker 1: playing out among Minnesota Vikings fans that we have.

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Speaker 2: I'll just put it this way.

676
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: We have been here at least once, maybe two times before.

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Speaker 1: I'll identify that, explain it and get back in just

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Speaker 1: a minute.

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Speaker 2: Here in the fan.

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00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: It's the heat and the Wolves for the second time

681
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 3: in three games tonight from Target Center.

682
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Speaker 2: Tip Off is at seven.

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00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 3: You can catch every shot, every dunk, every jaw dropping

684
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 3: play all season on the Timberwolves.

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00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio channel. Freezing fog? Is that your term? Is that

686
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: a weather terrorism term?

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna read it. I'd never heard of it.

688
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: I'd mentioned it last hour. I'd never heard of it.

689
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: This is from the National Weather Service tonight. Areas of

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Speaker 3: fog before four am, then areas of fog after five am,

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Speaker 3: areas of freezing fog between four.

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Speaker 2: Am and five am. Can't make that up.

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Speaker 1: How does fog freeze nowhere else in America?

694
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Speaker 2: Does this happen? What do we do in America? Not

695
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: very many plays? Oh my god, what a winter? What

696
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: a winter?

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Speaker 1: And Louis refuses to participate it in any longer. Mace

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00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: Is finally, he said, taking the trip. He'll join us

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00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: from Florida tomorrow as well. How many times have we

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Speaker 1: been in exactly this situation regarding the Minnesota Vikings coaching situation.

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Speaker 2: How many times.

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Speaker 1: Have we said, yeah, I like Koc, I think he's

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00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: fine for you know, as far as it goes. But

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Speaker 1: if you're telling me there's a chance that, let's say

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00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, who's certainly got it, appears the ear of

706
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: the Raiders owner says, I'm not taking no for an

707
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Speaker 1: answer from Brian Flores.

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Speaker 2: I want him to be our next head coach.

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Speaker 1: Well, why don't we make this easy? We promote Brian

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Speaker 1: Flores to head coach here and we made koc might

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00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: be exactly what the elixir the Baltimore Ravens are looking

712
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: for a quarterback whisperer to work with Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 1: everybody wins. How many times in the last forty years

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Speaker 1: of Vikings football have we been here where we've wanted

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Speaker 1: to trade or fire the head coach and promote the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Let's just go through it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, did we want to fire Denny for Billock

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Speaker 3: or and or dungeee?

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Speaker 1: Not at the time, Yeah, but afterwards we said that's

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Speaker 1: where we screwed up. Denny had you know, ultimately we

722
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Speaker 1: got to the Final four twice and then you know,

723
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Speaker 1: got killed one of those two games and should have

724
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: won the other one but didn't. So ultimately we were

725
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: disappointed by the postseason. After he went zero to three

726
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: his first three seasons in the postseason. So we looked

727
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: back and then we saw what Tony Dungee did later

728
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Speaker 1: as head coach and said, no controversy, no difficult he's

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00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: no challenges. We should have kept Dongeee even if it

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Speaker 1: meant we had to get rid of Denny and we've

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Speaker 1: probably he might still be the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the hindsight ones are easier because in hindsight, Mike

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Speaker 3: Tomlin was defensive coordinator Yes for one season, correct, And

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Speaker 3: I always remember I was working with PA at the time.

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Speaker 3: I remember I talk about it all the time, the

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Speaker 3: very first defensive coordinator, the introduction to Mike Tomlin. I

737
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Speaker 3: think he was thirty four years old when he got

738
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Speaker 3: through a state job, right, And I was at the

739
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Speaker 3: old Winter Park and I was standing next to Row

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Speaker 3: before Yes, and I'm watching him conduct the press.

741
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Speaker 2: Conference and I'm like, oh my god, like this dude

742
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 2: has it. Whatever it is, he just has it.

743
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Speaker 3: And then the defense was good, and I'm thinking, as

744
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: the years going on, are we gonna lose Mike Tomlin

745
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: And everyone's like, no, he's been here ten minutes.

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00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen, Like.

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Speaker 3: Just saying if he gets an interview, I don't know

748
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Speaker 3: what organization is going, we'll pass.

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Speaker 1: And so you're saying we should never have left him,

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Speaker 1: let him walk out the door, no matter what it.

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Speaker 3: Took, even but even at the time, like Chili was

752
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 3: so weird. Yes, that one was more of a first

753
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Speaker 3: guest with Tomlin. The Dungee and Gelick were more difficult

754
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Speaker 3: because Denny had some pretty good success and obviously Childress

755
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Speaker 3: did too.

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Speaker 2: And we're here again.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, there's people ready and not by the way, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a little simplistic in that we don't know how

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Speaker 1: he would be as a head coach. It didn't work

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Speaker 1: the first time in Miami. I absolutely believe they put

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Speaker 1: this way. Who is the offensive coordinator in Kansas City?

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Speaker 2: You remember former Bears head coach? Who is it? Matt Naggy.

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Speaker 2: Matt Nagy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I saw a headline earlier today that

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Speaker 1: he's going to get another interview to be head coach.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just going to tell you the world is

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Speaker 1: bleeped up if Matt Naggy gets another chance to be

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Speaker 1: a head coach and Brian Flores, no matter what he

769
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Speaker 1: did wrong first time around, does not get another chance

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Speaker 1: to I don't care how many lawsuits are out there.

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Speaker 1: Whatever that makes it. That makes absolutely no sense to me,

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Speaker 1: but we don't know how it would go, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's to think that way, especially after this season.

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Speaker 1: We laid out the analytics stats, the deep stats on

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00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: the vikings in three areas offense, defense, special teams, and

776
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Speaker 1: the number that was in the upper to mid twenties

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Speaker 1: in terms of ranking was offense, and the numbers that

778
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: were both in the top ten. I think in fact,

779
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: special teams was six and defense was eight. So it's

780
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: easy to say, well, the offense is the thing not working.

781
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: So I know he's supposed to be a quarterback whisperer,

782
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: but it doesn't look very good to me. And they

783
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: squandered this season miscalculating what to expect from the kid quarterback.

784
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Speaker 1: So I don't think this is any of this is

785
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: likely to happen, But it's just fascinating to me here

786
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: that that's been that we haven't been in this exact

787
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: same place at least two other times where whether it

788
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: was after the fact or during in some cases, it

789
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: was let's just be ballsy and let's just get rid

790
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: of the head coach, even if he's not really done

791
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: another bad to be fired all to say, but we

792
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: want to keep the guy who's got a chance to

793
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: be a legend. Doungee became a legend, right he did.

794
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: There's hot less. Tomley became a legend. BI won a

795
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and we had him here. Not anymore as coordinators,

796
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I know, Although do you feel like other places have

797
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: had it like us here?

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00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: Are we unique in that?

799
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't know enough attention to others.

800
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some other examples of it.

801
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: Although I still think it's possible that if PJ ends

802
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: up for whatever reason saying it's time to move on,

803
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: that we could get Doungee to run the go for football.

804
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: I still don't think that's a pipe dream. I really don't.

805
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: I think there's always a chance. And he might say,

806
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, I look back on my life, it's been

807
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: pretty good.

808
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: In a lot of ways. It all startled in other ways.

809
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: But I always wondered what it might have been like

810
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: for me to run the Golden Gopher football program.

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Speaker 3: We're only like six or seven years removed from people

812
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: actually saying that's true, Like every.

813
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: Job, right, that's true? Otherwise otherwise, all right, top five

814
00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: is coming up?

815
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Speaker 3: What he got We've got to talk about the John

816
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: Harbaugh News because that's a major seismic domino in the

817
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 3: National Football League. The wild Lows and the Wolves back

818
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: in action tonight. Will Anthony Edwards play or will he

819
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Speaker 3: not