1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Seven twenty in fifty five KCD talk station on a 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Monday that means former vice mayor of the city. Since 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Saint Christopher's Spiman provides us with an opportunity or gives 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: we give them an opportunity to ventist Sleen, we call 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: it the Smith Van on the heels of my father 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: and the Monday morning Spleen event. Welcome back, Christopher. Great 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: to hear from you, and a very very happy or 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you and your family, my friend. 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: Oh, Merry Christmas to you, Brian Thomas and your whole family, 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: and Marry Christmas to your very loyal listening audience. You know, 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: I am appreciative that they tune in to your show 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 2: like I do, and they give me an opportunity, you know, 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: on Monday mornings to express things to them. So Merry 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: Christmas to all of them, and I thank you for 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 2: the opportunity to share my thoughts. Brian. The first thing 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: that's on my mind is an autopsy of the local 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: election that we just went through, and I'm going to 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: hone in on one specific part of it, and I 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: want to read iterate this to the public. We were 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: all lied to in Cincinnati as we went into the 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: local election. This is not about Christopher Smitherman. This is 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: not about Corey Bowman. This is not about Liz Keating 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: or Steve Gooden, as some examples. This is about a 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: corrupt government at City Hall. I mean everything that I'm 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: saying now. The public deserved to know that we were 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: in settlement talks for eight point one million dollars to 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: give to protesters downtown. There is no way that the 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: city manager, the mayor, the entire city solicitor's office, whomever 29 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: you want to talk about, and the media should have known. 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: They should have been digging, They should have been asking questions. 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: They should have been trying to say, what should we 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: know going into this election? This administration hid that from 33 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: the public. Do I believe that it would have changed 34 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: the outcome of the election. No, But we deserved to 35 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: have that information because Brian Thomas, as a person, a 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: media personality, would have done a deep dive into that 37 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: would have educated voters prior to voting that City Hall 38 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: was about to settle eight point one million or total 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 2: of maybe ten million because the lawyers are getting two million, 40 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: and that the city was going to have to issue 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: judgment bonds by the way in order to pay that debt, 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: because they weren't going to pay the debt. We are 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: paying the debt. We forget. We act like Mayor pure 44 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: vall is going into his pocket with his repolled cars, 45 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: taking the money and paying out the ten million. He's 46 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: not the people that are in the city who are 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: paying that income tax. We are the ones paying this bill. 48 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: We des to know that information prior to the election. 49 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: There is no media outlet in this town that has 50 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: put that in black and white for us to see. 51 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm not focused on the A point one. I'm focused 52 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: on the corruption. I'm focused on they hid that from us. 53 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: And this is what's wrong with our local government's public 54 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 2: that we don't do a deep dive and we don't 55 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: look back and we don't think why didn't they tell 56 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: us that prior to the election. It was right after 57 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: the election. Oh, we've got this settlement. We're not going 58 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: to trial, we're not gonna fight this, We're gonna surrender 59 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: and we're just gonna give out ten million dollars of 60 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: your money, pay the lawyers two million, and then send 61 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: out eight point one million dollars to everybody else. And 62 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna issue judgment bonds in order to do that. 63 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: While we're in settlement talks with Chief Washington, while we're 64 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: in settlement talks with Chief cg meaning we know there's 65 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: gonna be other settlements that were coming. We were aware 66 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: of those things. We were absolutely unaware of this. And 67 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: this is big because it absolutely impacts our police department. 68 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: It impacts our budget, It impacts our trust of them, 69 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: meaning we were to weigh in and said, no, we 70 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: don't want you to settle that case. We want this 71 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: to go to trial. What are our options as the taxpayers. 72 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: The taxpayers were never brought in where there were any 73 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: public hearings, any discussions for us other than them voting 74 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: on the settlement. But we didn't have an opportunity to 75 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: weigh in. Those who are paying the bill had no 76 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: opportunity to weigh in and say we want to go 77 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: to trial. I'd rather pay fifty million dollars and say 78 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: we had our day in court. They give them a 79 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: point one million. Is that fair, Brian Thomas? 80 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: It's fair that you hold that opinion, Christopher. I understand 81 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: where it's coming from all day long, and you know 82 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: to the extent they were able to reveal what was 83 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: going on in settlement negotiations. 84 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 85 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: It could have been governed by the attorney clan privilege 86 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: or but the reality that the lawsuit was filed and 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: where we were in the lawsuit and what the subject 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: matter of the lawsuit was should have been a topic 89 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: of regular conversation. So we're at least all aware. And 90 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: this settlement didn't come out of right field, which it 91 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: seems to have come out of right field. 92 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 3: Christopher. 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: That right field that you described is the corruption that 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: their lives, their lives, the corruption you and I understand 95 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: it didn't come from right field. And if we had 96 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: a paper of record that was willing to do their 97 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: job to ask the tough questions that the way they 98 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: used to do thirty or forty years ago, we would 99 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: have had this information. And right now there's no opinion 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 2: that's going in the paper saying this was wrong. The 101 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: way it was handled was wrong. We were in the 102 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: middle of an election and this government should have provided 103 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: this information to the public. Where is that article? It 104 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: doesn't exist. Does everybody seems to be working together, Brian 105 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: Thomas to undermine the people. And this is what is 106 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 2: so frustrating and why I wanted to start my my 107 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: spleen bit this morning say I'm not focused on the 108 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: eight million, eight point one million. I've already talked about that. 109 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: I'm this morning talking about the corruption of the eight 110 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: point one million and that's all tied into the Irish 111 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: Roly contract that just happened to happen right after the election. 112 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 2: Let's just drop down another six hundred and fifty plus 113 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: thousand dollars to her. By the way, right after the election. 114 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, two days later you call corruption? Hold on corruption. Well, 115 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: I know he has more on his mind. We're out 116 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: of time. 117 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: In the segment seven twenty seven, we mentioned very quickly 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: my friends are calling electric for residential electric needs. It's 119 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: calling electric and I don't know, but I have a 120 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: really strong cuency. 121 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: Deep Talk Station. 122 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: Seven thirty one fifty five Ker City Talk Station Bryan 123 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: Thomas with a former vice mayor of the city since 124 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: Saint Christopher's smitheman and. 125 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: Heyby Mack Christopher. 126 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: You know. 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: One of the interesting things I talked to Andre Ewing. 128 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: Brother Drey was on the program last Friday, and I 129 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: asked him specifical about i IRIS, who's been has very 130 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: influential and he said, and I'm boiling down his comments too, 131 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: And I asked him directly along the lines of well, 132 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: if Iris Rawley had been against a FTAB per vol 133 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, if he rubbed her the wrong way 134 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: or didn't agree to extend this contract for another however 135 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: many years, the six hundred and fifty thousand dollars contract 136 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: we learned about after the election, would it have changed 137 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: the election? I specifically said, would Corey Bowman have won? 138 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: And he said yes. Now, he's one man with one opinion, 139 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: But that suggests that Iris Roley wields a tremendous amount 140 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: of power among those who show up to vote in 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't. I don't think. I don't agree there, But 143 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: that's okay. I really have high respect for Andre. He's 144 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: in his service to our city. But what I will say, 145 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: and I think that both of us, Andrea and I 146 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: would agree that she actively campaigned for him. So you 147 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 2: have a contractor that's getting lots of money, and she's 148 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: actively following Corey Bowman around, screaming at him, shouting at 149 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: him during the debates or any event that he might 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: go to. She's showing up and clowning. She was an 151 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: arm of his campaign. The public doesn't understand that if 152 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: you're a city employee, you're not supposed to do that. 153 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 2: But what they've done is they they're slicing this thing. Well, 154 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: she's not an employee, she's a ten ninety nine er. 155 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: She's a contractor. So therefore, as she takes our money, 156 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: she can engage directly in politics. She had a nepotism 157 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: by giving fifty eight dollars an hour to family members 158 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: and hooking up friends down there. And by the way, 159 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: we had a whole discussion publicly about invoices that were submitted, 160 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: lack of true transparency on our ROI helping young people. 161 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: A lot of us believe that that money could be 162 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: spent very differently with better outcomes. But why after the 163 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: election do you give her the contract? It was a 164 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: reward public. You did your job, soldier, you went out 165 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: there and campaigned for me I want, and now you 166 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: get your money. That's what we call corruption. We should 167 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: have had all of this information. And by the way, 168 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: the city manager isn't asking any more questions about what 169 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: she's doing, how she's submitting her invoices, who's getting paid what, 170 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Knowing that family members are getting paid, friends and family 171 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: are getting paid, no questions at all. Public. But guess what, 172 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: elections have consequences. We knew that going into the election, 173 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 2: and many in the city just didn't care. They were 174 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: just so for Oh, I'm not going to vote for 175 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: Corey Bowman. I'm going to vote for this guy right here. 176 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: And then we find out after the election that his 177 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: cars are being repolled. That you and I know as 178 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 2: just financially literate people, that when your cars are being repolled, 179 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: that they're calling you, writing you, reaching out to you. 180 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: Your payment isn't made. He asks like, oh, this just 181 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: fell out of the sky. They just came and refold 182 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: my car in front of the city hall public. That 183 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: is absolutely untrue. This is a guy that doesn't even 184 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: know how to manage his own checkbook, and he's now 185 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: taught now in charge of managing a billion dollar budget, which, 186 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: by the way, we have a massive deficit that this 187 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: city's going to have to resolve because COVID dollars are gone. 188 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: There's no more offsets, so they're going to actually have 189 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: to roll up their sleeves and actually do some work 190 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: down there. But at the end of the day, this 191 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: election was let me pay everybody off. Here's your eight 192 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: point one million, two million dollars to the lawyers. And 193 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: by the way, the lead lawyer is Irish Rowley's total 194 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: best friend, meaning al Gerhardstein and Irish Rowley are tied 195 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: at the hip. They're all this is the guy that 196 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 2: brought the collaborative agreement to the City of Cincinnati. He 197 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: wrote it. So Iris and him are on the same team, right, 198 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: This is all the same thing. I would not be 199 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: surprised that she wasn't even at the table for the negotiates, 200 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: because they will bring Iris into the room. If you 201 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: talk to the president and the FOP president, they bring 202 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: her into meetings that there's no way in hell she 203 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: should be in the room discussing anything. But my point is, 204 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it boils down to 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: one feed corruption and the second thing it boils down 206 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: to is there what is the ROI the violence and 207 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 2: skill happening throughout the winter. The violence will continue in 208 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: the summer, and all of these people will continue to 209 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: get paid. 210 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: And that's the what results do we get from our 211 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: money question? That no seems to be asking or following 212 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: up on. Christopher Smithman hold on will come back just 213 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: a moment here. I want to mention de talk station 214 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: here at fifty five Karrose Detalk station, Christopher smithment on 215 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: the phone doing an admirable job pointing out the fraud 216 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: corruption going on in downtown Cincinnati. Christopher, what else is 217 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: on your mind today? 218 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: Look what is happening in Minnesota with the corruption. We 219 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: have to keep our eye on that. There were thirteen 220 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: people charged this week for medicaid fraud. Now, what is 221 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: medicaid right? Medicaid is that safety net service that provides free, 222 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 2: low cost health coverage for millions of people Americans who 223 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: are in the category of low incomes. Why wouldn't the 224 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: Democrats be I'm really angry to hear that someone from 225 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: other countries were taking advantage of Americans who deserve and 226 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 2: need the safety net services in the tune of eight 227 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: billion dollars of corruption coming out of one state. So 228 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: you know they're not serious because they're trying to explain 229 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: this away. Put it on the back pages, no real articles, 230 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: no deep dives. Thirteen people's were thirteen people were charged 231 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: for medicaid fraud. Fifth week. Oh there going to be more? 232 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's on top of the ones who 233 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: already charged. I mean, it's we're entering into the billions 234 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: of dollars stolen in fraud, waste, and abuse. 235 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: Right, not one billion, not one billion that they started with, right, 236 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: you and I know this thing might hit eight, nine, 237 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: ten billion dollars. That this is a deep hole, showing 238 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: that the gu governors should have known or did know, 239 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: that congressional members should have known or did know they 240 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 2: were at campaigned events getting money from these people who 241 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: were defrauding our government, taking money from the poor, from medicaid, 242 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: the people that Democrats say they care so much about, 243 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: and then took the money and sent it to their country, right, 244 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: took lavish trips, traveled all around the world first class, 245 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: spending our precious federal dollars for the poor. That is 246 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: what is so crazy about this public That you have 247 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Democrats that are turning because they're more interested in gaining 248 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: power in the midterm elections. They're more concerned about that 249 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: than they are in exposing this fraud. So what they're 250 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: trying to do is act like the federal government. Trump 251 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: is on some rage, he's trying to undermine something. All 252 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: he's doing is showing us here's a here's a state 253 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: that is that is absolutely a deep state that is 254 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: engaging in fraud against the poorest people in our country, 255 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: our Americans who do who need this medicaid, these medicaid 256 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: dollars that they've been taking, siphoning that money off for 257 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: their own personal gain in order to help political candidates, 258 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: and sending the money to Somalia. And by the way, 259 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: Somalia is on that list consistently ranked as one of 260 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: the most corrupt countries in the on the globe. So 261 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: we already know, meaning people who are the world knows 262 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: that Somalia's government doesn't have it together. And now all 263 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: of a sudden we're seeing eight billion dollars of fraud, 264 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: medicaid fraud. We've got to keep saying medicaid fraud. That 265 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: that tells you that they were from the poor. The 266 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: thing that the Democrats say they care so much about. 267 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: Bryant Well, and you can focus on, yes, the program 268 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: is designed to help the poorest out there, and yes, 269 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: the Democrats typically hold the mantra of the party in 270 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: favor of helping the poor. But this is an insult 271 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: to every tax payer, taxpayers out there. Because I'm glad 272 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: part of my taxpayers dollars go to Medicaid program because 273 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: I want to help those in life's margins. Well, you 274 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: know what, they don't care about monitoring the program so 275 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: much so that you know they're they're they're wasting billions 276 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: and billions of the dollars that you earn going to 277 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: work every day and not doing anything about it. They 278 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: can't admit that this is a good thing, the Democrats, 279 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: because it exposes a weakness in the program. It's built 280 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: to not find fraud, wasted abuse, or if it's run 281 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: by an administration that doesn't care to look into it, 282 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,359 Speaker 1: they just ignore it, and the fraud wasted abuse continues 283 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: and probably increases because word gets out that there aren't 284 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: going to be any repercussions. Look new sheriffs in town. 285 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, he gets doge going. They start looking out 286 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: into the world and all these problems the PPP loans, 287 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: the COVID relief money, everything else. They discover fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, 288 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: and every American taxpayer should be pissed off. If I 289 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: may be so bold to use that phrase. They can't 290 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: acknowledge it, they can't admit it, they can't concede it's 291 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: a victory for the American taxpayer that we found all 292 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: this and you know what, they're not even done yet 293 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: finding all this, Christopher, they're. 294 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: Not And the reality of it is, you and I 295 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: understand you're on the right nerve here, Brian Thomas, because 296 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: these programs they're taking money from us, and they're saying 297 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: they're helping the poor, and what you and I are 298 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: finding out they're not that they're taking our money and 299 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: they're siphoning that money off of their own personal gain. 300 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: That is so frustrating. Because our federal tax rates are 301 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: so high, they keep taking more and more money. They 302 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: keep saying they got to tax the heck out of 303 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: us because there's not enough money. We need more money 304 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 2: for safety and that services. And what the president and 305 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: the administration is saying is no, we don't. All we 306 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: have to do is identify where the corruption is. They're 307 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: splenting of money. People are taking the money and using 308 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: it for their personal gain. Let's get that out of 309 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: the system and then see if we can lower taxes 310 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: because we actually don't need as much. This just has 311 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: me so angry because we have so many single moms 312 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 2: out there, we have so many people who have disabilities, 313 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: We have veterans out there who are depending on Medicaid 314 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: as a safety net service for them. This hits everybody 315 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: out here who needs safety net services. Democrats out here 316 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: who do not understand where you and I are talking about. 317 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 2: We are finding out that a governor and administration knew 318 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: all about this most likely or should have known that 319 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: eight or nine billion dollars was being taken out of 320 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: Medicaid in order to help that state and those the 321 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: poor people there. Many they were not getting the services 322 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: they should have gotten because the money, the money was 323 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: being stolen. 324 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: Get the nail on the head on that one, Christopher, 325 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: just one of a multitude, you know. I started out 326 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: this morning having a go at the federal government itself. 327 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: Joni Ernst asking for why the United States Postal Service 328 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: can't account for twenty one thousand buildings. USPS doesn't even 329 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: know what they're using them for, pivoting over the Pentagon, 330 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: failed its audit for the eighth consecutive year. They can't 331 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: pass an audit. They don't have the records to show 332 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: where the money's going. See this exists in every area 333 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: of government. I want accountability from the folks within government. 334 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: Trump administration Biden administration doesn't matter. I want accountability for 335 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: all these programs. I want some follow up. I want 336 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: some people like inspectors general minding the shop and looking 337 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: to see. First off, one is the program doing what 338 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: it's supposed to do, actually helping those on life's margins? Too, 339 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: is the program being abused by fraud? And the answer, 340 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: at least in Minnesota was yes on that one. Wait 341 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: for it for the Pentagon. Maybe that someday they'll pass 342 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: an audit, we'll find out what they did. 343 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: Give me one more minute. This will get your blood 344 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 2: boiling real quick, because this is why this Okay, this 345 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: is what happens. They then go to race and they 346 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: want to make you a racist and everybody a racist 347 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: for talking about what's happening with Somalia. So you're a 348 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: Somalian you now you say you're talking about the fraud. 349 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, you're a racist because you're 350 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: you're identifying the fraud. I want the public to know, 351 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: you've got to not allow them to get it to 352 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: the identity politics and get us away from the subject 353 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: matter of the corruption. 354 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: That stipid argument to do that. It's just stupid. They 355 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 3: do it because people are doing it. 356 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: Because people cower in the in the in the face 357 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: of the accusation when it's not supported by any evidence whatsoever. 358 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's the Remulakians coming from the 359 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: planet of Remulac it started stealing, it doesn't matter. It's 360 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: the people who stole it. They stole what defines my 361 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: and your anger. People stealing money, anyone an American money. 362 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what country they came from, It doesn't 363 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what part of the world they live in. 364 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 2: But this is what they're doing right now. They're going 365 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: to Democrats are going to continue to try to do it. 366 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: They're trying to call anybody that calls attention to this 367 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: a racist or an uncle Tom or someone who is 368 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: not connected. And I say, stay on this bone, follow 369 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: this story, and let's make sure we get Minnesota all 370 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: cleaned up here and this eight billion and nine billion dollars. 371 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: We follow the money all the way to Congress and 372 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 2: figure out who was involved, put them in handcuffs, and 373 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: hold them accountable. 374 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: You got my vote, they are you got my vote. Christopher. 375 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I appreciate you. Brian Thomas Mery, 376 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: Christmas to you, brother 377 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas to you and your family at all.