1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Okay, let me throw another log on the fire, because 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about if we were to leave NATO and 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: the United States was to set up its own security 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: alliance led by US, obviously, what kind of partners, What 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: kind of countries would we want to join the security club? 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: People that are truly reliable, that are true allies that 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: we know if we protect them, they will go out 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: of their way to help protect us. In other words, 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: it's a two way street. Not what we're seeing now 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: when you ask for a little bit of help in 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormoose and everyone says no. I mean literally, 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about just you know, taking out minds, sweeping 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: and taking out minds in the Strait of Hormose. As 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: Trump said, I'm not asking you to fire a missile 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: or a bullet or a bomb or a drone striker. 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: We'll do all of that. I just need some people 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: to help us clear out that Strait of Hormuse and 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: clear out the Persian Gulf because most of that oil coaster, 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: you guys, anyway, doesn't go to us benefit. It's you Japan, 20 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: no South Korea, no Australia, no Canada, no Great Britain, 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: to which everlasting shame. No, and it was a hard No. France, maybe, 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: but after the war, I'm not kidding. Yeah, we're willing 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: to sweep the you know, the ocean floor there, the 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: Gulf floor, but that's only after the war ends. Well, okay, hey, 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: you're no good to me. Then Germany said, it's not 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: our war. You're on your own. You won't get a 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: single European sorry, a mind sweeping vessel from US or 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: from any Europeans. Italy no, So the EU overall is 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: said no. Okay, So which countries would you like to 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: join or think are trustworthy enough, reliable enough to be 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: part of this club? We've had Israel that the country's 32 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: been thrown around the name poland Roy says, bring in 33 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: the entire former Eastern Bloc if they're all good, Interesting, 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: he said, even Russia. Interesting. Okay, let me ask you this. 35 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: Say. 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Trump says, I can't do it. I want to leave NATO. 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: I just I can't. We just got too many commitments. 38 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Too much of our economy is intertwined with them. It's 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: gonna be too messy. However, However, as punishment for what 40 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: they've done, we get to kick one country out of 41 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: NATO of all the countries in NATO, we get to 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: boot one of these freeloaders out, one of these traders out. 43 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: Who would it be? Which country would you like to 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: see kicked out of NATO? Now, I'm just telling you 45 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: for me personally, the socialist government of Spain, and I 46 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: mean they have been and backbiting, criticizing us, undermining us, 47 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: calling us names. I don't know for how many years now, 48 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: they're more than useless, worse than useless, Okay to me, 49 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: They're a top contender. And Mark Carney and the Prime 50 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: Minister of Canada, the Canadians have been stabbing us and 51 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: stabbing us and stabbing us in the back. So I'm thinking, Ugh, Spain, 52 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to see go, Canada, I'd like to see 53 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: go And Denmark. I haven't forgiven them for the way 54 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: they treated us over Greenland, so that would be my 55 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: top three. Hey, that's just me. I would say, I 56 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: have to decide between Spain, Canada or Denmark. You know 57 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: what Greenland means a lot to us, screw you. Denmark 58 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: is out, okay, So I would say Denmark, but Canada 59 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: and Spain a close second. Who would you like to 60 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: see get booted out? Of NATO six one seven two 61 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: six six sixty eight sixty eight. Lee in woo Burn, 62 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Lee, and welcome. 63 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: Good morning, Jeff. Highly Jeff, I can't really say who 64 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: I want out. I want us out. NATO's just been 65 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: a drag on us, and I don't see anybody benefiting. 66 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: I don't see us benefiting by being in NATO. We 67 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: pay the most and we get the least benefit. If 68 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: you want to look at it this way, who gets 69 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: the most and pays the least. Maybe they're the ones 70 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: that get out that we have to throw out. But 71 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: as far as NATO goes, the sooner we get out 72 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: of it, the better off will be who we don't 73 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: need anybody. Everybody needs us. So whether it's the Eastern 74 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: Bloc or any other country, what can they do for us? 75 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: We're the ones with the power, right we Obviously what's 76 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: been happening the last two and a half weeks, and 77 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: he hasn't unleashed Trump. Trump keeps giving us the message 78 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: that he hasn't totally unleashed. Imagine if he unleashes. 79 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: What you know, devastation can happen. 80 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: And these countries, they have the nerves with all that 81 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: we do for the world, all that we've done for 82 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: the world, that they don't say yes, whatever you would like, yes, 83 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: thank you. And if they don't do what we say, 84 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: stop the money. The money is what controls, right. We 85 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: can't control these people with the money we give them. 86 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: Stop giving them money. Just my opinion, aw. 87 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Lee, you like it's like you read my mind. Honestly, 88 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. And you know, and 89 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: that's the thing that it makes my blood boil, It 90 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: really does. When I think, here, just take France. I 91 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: could give you country by country. You go to Normandy 92 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: in France. If you ever go to France, I urge everybody. 93 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Paris is beautiful. It's one of the crown jewels of 94 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Europe and one of the crown jewels of the West. 95 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: But you have to go to Normandy. A. It's beautiful, 96 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: but b you see, it's an army of crosses of 97 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: American soldiers who died to liberate France from the Nazis. 98 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: And this is how they pay us back. You know, 99 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: you go to Britain and yes, they were heroic, there's 100 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: no question they stood up the Hitler and they held out. 101 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: But you know, Churchill himself said without the United States, 102 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: we would have lost. He probably admitted it. He goes, No, America, 103 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: we couldn't have held out forever. So I could give 104 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: you country after country. We liberated Italy, I mean we've 105 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: done you know, Germany, Yeah, we defeated them, but we 106 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: rebuilt Germany and then we defended them from the Soviet Union. 107 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I could go on and on and on, 108 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: and so it's infuriating. Honestly, it's insulting. You know, in 109 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the past, the Europeans were a little smarterly. They would 110 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: give like a little token, you know, like what they 111 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: did in Afghanistan. They give a you know, a little 112 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: something just to say they were helping. Now they're either're 113 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: so contemptuous and so greedy and you know, just so 114 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: ungrateful that now it's just no, no, you're not getting anything. 115 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: And you know you nailed it. Eastern Europe needs us, 116 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: We don't need them. We could have if we really 117 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: wanted to go shock and awe, true fire and fury, 118 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: Iran could have been wiped out with our firepower. And 119 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm not talking dropping nuclear weapons. I'm saying we're just 120 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna go Thunderdome on them. We could have knocked Iran 121 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: out in three days. So we're showing the world we 122 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: are the great military superpower. No one is even close, 123 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: not even China. China's technology has failed, China's missiles have failed, 124 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: their air defense systems have failed. Russian and Chinese technology 125 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: are shown to be second rate compared to ours. Nine 126 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: thirty four on the great WORKO Jeff Kooner Boston's Bulldozer 127 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. 128 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: Happy Saint Patrick's day again to everyone out there. Peter 129 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: in Pakiston, thanks for holding Peter and welcome. Yeah, Peter, 130 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: go ahead, my friend, all. 131 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: Right, Hey, yeah, thanks you taking Michael a long time anytime. 132 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: I agree. I think NATO was relevant in this day, 133 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 3: but I think it's path A and if it's to 134 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: operate the way it's operating right now, where you have 135 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: to basically control people to basically pay their fash air 136 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: and everything like that, then the system's broken. It's broken. 137 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: So I think it would be I think it would 138 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: be advantage to the United States to just say, hey, 139 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: you know what, Fortress Europe, you want to take care 140 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: of it, You take care of it. You alway, I 141 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: don't know, you know, what one of the countries that 142 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: I would just looking at over the last two or 143 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: three years, Finland, Finland, any of the countries that are 144 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: basically bordering Russia and you know, the Soviet menace and whatnot. 145 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: Poland prime example. They never want to go back. So 146 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: what what what transpired in World War Two and then 147 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: having to fight the Russians and then being taken over 148 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: by the Russians. So those those those border those border 149 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: states of Russia. I think they're fighters, and I think 150 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: they'll fight. I know you mentioned Japan and Japan. I 151 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: think that constitutions Japan relinquishes them to an idea, which is, 152 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 3: you know, basically defensive force. I don't think that constitution 153 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: allows them to go on an offensive nature. I think 154 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: I'm right about that, but I'm not. 155 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, no, Peter, they itself, they vote. They had 156 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: a constitution in nineteen forty seven. It was put to 157 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: a plebisite or referendum, and it says that Japan can 158 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: no longer ever project military power around the world, that 159 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: the army that they have or the military is only 160 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: for self defense purposes. So the Prime Minister made the 161 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: argument to Trump, well we don't have This was the 162 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm giving you the exact wording. We don't have the 163 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: legal framework, especially put it the legal framework to go 164 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: and say, let's, you know whatever, escort ships, you know, 165 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: escort oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz. And Trump's 166 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: reply was, I'm not asking you to fight, I'm not 167 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: asking you to bomb, I'm not asking you to attack. 168 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm not even asking you to escort the ships. You 169 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: have excellent mind sweepers because Japan is an island and 170 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: are sorry an archipelago, a series of islands, and they 171 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: regularly have to be careful for ships, and they you know, 172 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: they look for mines. So he goes, I'm not asking 173 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: you to be a belligerent or a co belligerent in 174 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: this war. I just want you guys to send some 175 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: of those mind sweepers because it'll make our life a 176 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: little easier. 177 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: Now. 178 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: What I like to what Trump did was he was 179 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, he was honest. He said, Look, I'm not 180 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: saying we need you, we don't need you. If we 181 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: have to do it, we'll do it. But I want 182 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: to know who wants to help us. Not asking for much, 183 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: but in other words, it's a test. I want to 184 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: know who's our friend and who isn't And he said, 185 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: and he said, I told everybody in private. I told 186 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: jd Vance, I told Rubio, I told heg Seth. I 187 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: told people in my cabin I said, you watch, no 188 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: one is going to step up. No one. Even though 189 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: take the Japanese almost all of their oil flows through 190 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormose. He goes, they have a massive 191 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: economic incentive and benefit to helping us clear the gulf, 192 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: clear the Strait of horm Moose. And he goes, you watch, 193 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: because they're going to say, let the Americans do it, 194 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: like always, let us do the heavy lifting. And so 195 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Trump's point and he said this explicitly, they're using us, 196 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: and I'm tired of them using us. And that's when 197 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: he said, you know what, now I want to charge 198 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: a toll. I'm thinking about charging a toll a fee 199 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: anybody wants oil to go through the Strait of Hormos. 200 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: Since we got to police it, and since we've got 201 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: to you know, escort all these ships, and we got 202 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: to demine it, and we've got tom you know, make 203 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: sure that we've neutered all of Iran defenses. So now, yeah, 204 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: the oil will flow. But Now it's not for free anymore. 205 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: Now you're all going to have to pay whatever it is, 206 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: five ten percent, there's going to be a search charge 207 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: because obviously you guys aren't friends. So Peter, you're right, Phil, 208 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in terms of the broader point, 209 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, but Trump wasn't asking them to join us 210 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: in a military coalition, and frankly he wasn't asking the 211 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: Europeans either. You know, He's basically saying, can you guys 212 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: blow up minds at the bottom of the gulf. That's it, 213 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: take out minds, blow up minds so your ships can 214 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: go through the strait of Hormouse and not get blown up, 215 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: or the oil that's going to your countries, feeding your people, 216 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: feeding your economies doesn't get blown up. That he goes, 217 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: that's all I'm asking. It's for you more than for me. 218 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: It's for you, so Peter, Honestly, what's happened now is 219 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: that this has laid bare two things. One, NATO is 220 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: not our friend, They're not our ally none of these 221 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: NATO countries are none of these countries in Asia are 222 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: really our friends or our allies. And ultimately we stand alone. 223 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: We stand alone. If we need something we really need, 224 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, if our backs against the wall, we're on 225 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: our own if Now, okay, I appreciate truth because truth 226 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: clarifies I know where I stand. We know where we stand. 227 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: But let's have no more illusions when they say to us, well, 228 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: we're friends and allies, No we're not. Maybe we're business partners, fine, 229 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: maybe we're trade partners, fine, but that's what they call 230 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: a cash nexus relationship. We're not friends and we're not 231 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: allies because true friends and true allies don't behave like this. 232 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: And Peter, I don't want to sound like an American jingoist. 233 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: I really don't, but let me tell you what a 234 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: friend and an ally is. A friend and an ally 235 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: is how we rushed to World War One to pull 236 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Britain in France's chestnuts out of the fire because the 237 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: Germans were going to win that war. A true ally 238 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: is how we liberated Europe from Hitler's Third Reich, and 239 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: how we liberated all of Asia from Japanese brutal occupation. 240 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: A true ally is what we did in Korea for 241 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: the South Koreans. It's what we did in South Vietnam 242 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: for the Vietnamese. It's how we carried the entire load, 243 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: practically to protect all of Europe and the Free World 244 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: against the Soviet Union. You know, there weren't fifty eight 245 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: thousand Brits or branch or Italians or Germans or Danes 246 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: or Norwegians that died in the jungles of Vietnam that 247 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: was us. There weren't thirty two what is it, thirty 248 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: five thousand that died in the hills of Korea that 249 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: was us. Never mind what hundreds of billions trillions that 250 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: we've spent protecting NATO and Europe trillions. And now I'm 251 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: asking you, I don't mean you as in you, I'm 252 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: asking the Europeans to pitch in a little bit on 253 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: the mines so we can end this war with Iran 254 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: a little quicker and a little cleaner and a little easier. 255 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: And now, all of a sudden, it's not our war. 256 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they tell us, no, you're on 257 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: your own. We don't want any part of this. Okay, 258 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, World War One wasn't our war. World War 259 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: two wasn't our war. Russia Ukraine, that's not our war. 260 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: Let's be clear. On Ukraine. We're defending Europe, not even 261 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: the Europe. We're defending Ukraine, but the Europeans are nervous, 262 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: so okay, so that's not our war if anything, you 263 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: know what's our incentive. Our incentive is to make a 264 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: deal with putin Happy Saint Patrick's Day to everyone. You 265 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: obviously can't see me, but I'm clapping as I'm listening 266 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: to this great Irish folk music. Anyway, I love Saint 267 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day. I don't have an ounce of Irish blood 268 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: in me, but it doesn't matter today we're all Irish. 269 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: Six one seven two sixty six sixty eight sixty eight 270 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: is the number. Marlene in Waltham. Thanks for holding Marlene, 271 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: and welcome. 272 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: Hi Jeff, Hi Marlene. 273 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: Happy St Patrick's, Happy Saint Patty's Day. I just have 274 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: questions because I'm not a historian or anything like that, 275 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 4: and I'm oping what happened? 276 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Marlin, can you just suddenly it's not you. It's 277 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: with the phone connection. You're voice turned from being a 278 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: human being into a computer or a robot. But that's like, 279 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: how do I say this in slow motion? So how okay? 280 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: We got her back? She say, Marlene, are you speaking like? 281 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: Do we have you sounding like a human being again? 282 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 4: And I didn't have a Guinness yet, So okay, just 283 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: say I just wanted to know. Do we have basis 284 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: in every NATO country? I don't know that. And do 285 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 4: we pay them for being there? How much? 286 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: And do we pay them? 287 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: Do we give them money annually? You know how we 288 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: give countries money annually for I don't know what. Can 289 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 4: you explain that a little bit? 290 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: Yes, Marlene, we have not in every European country, but 291 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: in most NATO countries. Most European countries, we have military bases. 292 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: Now. 293 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: Some of them are smaller bases a couple times troops, 294 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: but we have them in Estonia, in Latvia, in Lithuania, 295 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: we have a pretty big base. In Poland we have 296 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: two Monster bases, one in Germany about thirty thousand troops 297 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: and another Monster base in Britain about another thirty thousand troops. 298 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: We also have bases in Italy. I don't know about 299 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: Finland or Sweden. They were previously neutral. I know we 300 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: did some training exercises with Finland, so I'm assuming we 301 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: have some kind of a small base now. We don't 302 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: have a base in every single country that's a NATO member. 303 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: The reason I know this when I was in Croatia 304 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: in the summer. I asked someone. I asked the locals, 305 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: and I said, hey, since you guys have been a 306 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: member of NATO now for a long time, is there 307 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: an American base? And they said, no, there's a NATO base, 308 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: and there may be a few American troops, but no, 309 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: there are no NATO. There are no US bases in Croatia, 310 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: and I don't think there are in other countries. So 311 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: but yes, we have them in most countries in Europe. 312 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: We spend a lot of money to maintain these bases. 313 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: It costs US billions and billions and billions of dollars. 314 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: And not just that, it costs US a lot of money, Marlene. 315 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: But Germany is a classic example. We are soldiers, you know, 316 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: they'll live in a town nearby the base. They buy homes, 317 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: they rent homes, they need cars to get around. They 318 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: go shopping, grocery shopping, whatever. They go to restaurants, they 319 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: go to bars. They inject a lot of money into 320 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: the local economy. So you know, we we help their 321 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: local on top of everything else. Not only do we 322 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: protect them at our expense, but we also inject a 323 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: lot of money into their local economy. So you know, Marlene, Look, 324 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they're in grades. I mean, they're just on 325 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: every level, they're in greates. And look, it's just a 326 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: fact Germany doesn't need a military. Why because we have 327 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: a big base they're protecting Germany. Britain in theory, doesn't 328 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: need a military because we got a big base protecting 329 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: Britain with a security guarantee through Article five in NATO, 330 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: if anybody attacks Britain, we are obligated to defend them. 331 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: Anybody attacks Germany, we're obligated to defend them. So what 332 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying is when a country has bailed you out 333 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: over and over again and defended you a tremendous cost, 334 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: and still defends you a tremendous cost, you know it'll it'll. 335 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: It's something like this. Okay, to understand the analogy, I 336 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: pay or you pay first the mortgage some of you know, 337 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: someone's grandparents, Then you pay the mortgage for their parents, 338 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: then you pay their mortgage. And after doing all of this, 339 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: you say, could you help me out with you know, 340 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: taking the garbage to the curb. There's a lot of garbage, 341 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: and you know, how do I say this? See, everybody 342 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: tells me you're good at, you know, cleaning and stuff 343 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: like that. Could you help me with the garbage? And 344 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: they no, I want to help you with the garbage. 345 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: That's your problem. That's literally what they're doing to us. 346 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: We have done so much for them, We have paid 347 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: and paid and paid and paid, and now we ask 348 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: them to help us. Basically, clean out the garbage. Are 349 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: you clean out the minds? And all of a sudden no, 350 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: so no. Take the bases out of Europe, take all 351 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: our troops out of Europe, take all the money that 352 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: we spend out of Europe. Frankly, take our country out 353 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: of NATO and preferably out of the UN, and kick 354 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: the UN out. But I'm getting ahead of myself, but 355 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: at a bare minimum, it's time for us to leave Europe, 356 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: leave NATO, and you're on your own.