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Speaker 1: It's over. There will be no World Series. The Blue

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Speaker 1: this game in this evening Dick with the eighty four

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Speaker 2: They lose, they lose. We lose.

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Speaker 1: We go down swinging, We go down swinging. But the

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Speaker 4: I've heard a lot of people, and I think on

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Speaker 1: the radio program, Booty, how are you, man?

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it, man, talk about the emotion, momentum,

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I about having fun? Now, are you

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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned Kirby Boonie. Game three, four innings, eight runs,

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Speaker 3: Well, I think because of the quality you have in

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, it happens, you know, it happens. That's baseball,

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Speaker 3: And I've seen them just make a mockery of games

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, these guys have a little bit of

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Speaker 4: Get it?

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Speaker 3: But I think the approach is going to be good.

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Speaker 3: have a question for him. What's our approach tonight? What

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Speaker 3: are we looking for? What are we trying to do?

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Speaker 3: And I could be talking to Marcus Simeon and saying

437
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Speaker 3: one thing, why at Langford saying something else, or an

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Speaker 3: Evan Carter have a completely different discussion with So it

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Speaker 3: all depends on the individual. It's kind of a tailored

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Speaker 3: and a very personal thing. Everybody's different and you got

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Speaker 3: to know what their skill set is, how they how

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Speaker 3: they approach when they get in the box, and you

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Speaker 3: have to tailor that that particular game plan for the individual.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, Julio, Well maybe it'd be a

445
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Speaker 3: thing or all right, Julio, we watched the video. What

446
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Speaker 3: did he do to you last time? What was he

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Speaker 3: successful with? What do you think he's gonna come at

448
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: you with tonight? And let's stick with that game plan

449
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Speaker 3: and not waiver. There's more time than that. If you

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Speaker 3: stick with your game plan over the long haul, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna be successful.

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Speaker 1: Well, boony, listen man, great stuff. We appreciate this as

453
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Speaker 1: always always good to have your two cents on this, sucker,

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Speaker 1: But what do you think happens tonight? Honestly, what's your gut?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to make predictions. You said it was a

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Speaker 1: coin flip, and I agree with that honestly. Yeah, you're

457
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Speaker 1: picking somebody. Never mind the fact that you're on Seattle Radio.

458
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Speaker 1: You just tell us your gut what happens to.

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Speaker 3: That, right, obviously, because of my time there, and you know,

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Speaker 3: that's kind of my team. You know, when people talk

461
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Speaker 3: to me about what team am I affiliated with, of

462
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Speaker 3: course it's the Seattle Mariners. From a player's perspective, I'm

463
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Speaker 3: just gonna go back to what I've said for two

464
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Speaker 3: months now. I think, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: the personnel the roster of the Seattle Mariners was the

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Speaker 3: best team when the smoke settled and the season was over.

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Speaker 3: If I had to pick one team in the American League,

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Speaker 3: I thought the Seattle Mariners, top to bottom pitching to

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Speaker 3: relief to the personnel on the field, I thought they

470
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Speaker 3: were the best team in the American League. So I'll

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Speaker 3: stick with the Marriors in this point flip of a game,

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Speaker 3: just because I think they're the best team and they

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Speaker 3: have the most weapons.

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Speaker 1: I love it all, right, man, good stuff, Good luck

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Speaker 1: with the Rangers. We'll talk soon, buddy.

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Speaker 3: Nice guys.

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Speaker 1: You know there's this other thing going around, which I

478
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Speaker 1: don't really care about because if the Mariners get swept

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Speaker 1: in three games and a seven game World Series, I

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Speaker 1: would take that right now against the Dodgers to win

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Speaker 1: this game tonight. But our friend Sarah Langs, who was

482
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Speaker 1: a great follow on Twitter, seasons where one LCS was

483
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Speaker 1: a sweep and the other went seven games, right, So

484
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers swept the Brewers, and the Mariners and Blue

485
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Speaker 1: Jays are in seven best of seven since the LCS

486
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Speaker 1: went the best of seven since eighty five, that's happened

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Speaker 1: five different times where one was a sweep and one

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Speaker 1: went seven. The other four prior times that happened, the

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Speaker 1: team that won the seven game LCS.

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Speaker 2: Won the World Series.

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Speaker 1: Now, maybe it's different now with the Dodgers in their

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Speaker 1: pay Ronald TODDI I get that, But this idea that

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Speaker 1: whoever wins this game tonight just gets steamrolled by LA

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Speaker 1: I don't buy that.

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Speaker 4: Well, no buy that, especially when your strength is the

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Speaker 4: depth in your starting rotation. Yes, I think that. I

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Speaker 4: think it really factors more if you've got one or

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Speaker 4: two great starters and that's all you have and you

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Speaker 4: have to start your fifth guy or your fourth guy.

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Speaker 1: In game one, then you're gonna lose game Well, like

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Speaker 1: you just said, they're real quick, and then we have

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Speaker 2: But if the strength is the depth in your rotation,

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Speaker 2: then let's see it tonight. Right.

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Speaker 1: You don't come this far talking about how great year

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Speaker 1: road because the rotation, let's face it, outside of Bryce

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Speaker 1: Miller in this series, has been crap. They have failed

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Speaker 1: them at the exact Dunn a long time of the year.

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Speaker 1: So the odds say, don't they that they gotta get

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Speaker 1: somebody to step up, somebody besides Bryce Miller of the

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Speaker 1: Big three, which is Kirby, Gilbert and Castillo.

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Speaker 2: Brian Woo's banged up, so I'm not including him.

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Speaker 1: But if those three, all we need is one of

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Speaker 1: them to step up one time tonight and you could

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Speaker 1: pull this thing off.

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Speaker 2: Factor fiction drapped by the Lucky Ego. Right now, we're

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Speaker 2: set to go. Glad you're with us.

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Speaker 1: And I'm laughing a little bit because how many times

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Speaker 1: have you and I sat here at Jimmy's and asked ourselves, Gee,

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen if there's a Seahawk.

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Speaker 2: Game in a big Mariner game that night? Well, here

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at a Seahawk football team that, just like

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Speaker 1: the Mariners Dick dying for a win, the Seahawks are

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Speaker 1: dying for a win at home.

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Speaker 2: They're four and eight.

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Speaker 1: Eventually, you gotta play the odds that that's going to

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Speaker 1: turn around under Mike McDonald. Eventually they're going to put

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Speaker 1: a game together at home on prime time against what

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Speaker 1: I think is a lesser football team, with a lesser

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Speaker 1: coaching staff, with a lesser offensive line, and the most

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Speaker 1: important part, a lesser quarterback right now than Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: I think the Hawks may roll, like actually roll tonight

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Speaker 1: in this game. I would not be surprised if they

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Speaker 1: won this game by fourteen, seventeen points or more. I

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Speaker 1: like the Hawks minus the three tonight in factor fiction.

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Speaker 4: There's never been a time in Seattle sports history where

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Speaker 4: a stadium's vibe is going to be more affected by

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Speaker 4: a game taking place outside of the stadium it's right

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Speaker 4: than a game taking place inside.

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Speaker 2: I wish, I wish we had what's your playing reality tonight?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay here till kickoff?

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Speaker 2: Okay with you right?

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna go in. Yeah, I'm gonna go in.

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Speaker 4: I'm staying here until the baseball I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: go in, and then I'll watch it on my phone. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: I was at the Husky game watching Game five. That

559
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 4: worked out well. Maybe I'll can be at the Seahawks

560
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Speaker 4: game and watch game seven and that'll work out well.

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Speaker 4: But how is the vibe in the building going to be?

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Speaker 4: I mean obvious, it's gonna be hotter than hell if

563
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Speaker 4: the Mariners are up forty one when the Seahawks game starts.

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Speaker 4: But what if they're down four to one? How's it

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Speaker 4: gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be weird number one, and not

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Speaker 1: weird in a bad way, just weird, right number one.

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Speaker 1: Number two, I could see a lot of people staying

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Speaker 1: at sports bars outside the stadium and then making their

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Speaker 1: way into the stadium after the Mariners win, and then

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Speaker 1: celebrating in there because Seahawks fans are Mariner fans. I

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Speaker 1: have never in my life, Jackson and Dick seen a

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Speaker 1: Monday night football game where tickets are as cheap as

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Speaker 1: they are right now. You can get in tonight for

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Speaker 1: fifty seven bucks. That's preseason numbers, dude, Yeah, fifty seven

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Speaker 1: dollars to get in the door for a Seahawks game.

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Speaker 2: I think that the consumer, the consumer is.

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Speaker 1: Telling you where their priorities are tonight in this sports town,

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Speaker 1: and it's not on the Seahawks, it's on the Mariners.

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Speaker 1: Fifty seven bucks to get in the door? Are you

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Speaker 1: freaking crazy for a Seahawk Monday night game?

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Speaker 2: So if you're at is not.

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Speaker 4: If you're a person that's always wanted to go to

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Speaker 4: a Seahawk regular season game, snock on a night game

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Speaker 4: and didn't want to pay two hundred dollars for tickets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's your opportunity. Jump on it.

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Speaker 4: Up and I can tickets Silva Stadium.

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Speaker 1: On bigger discount by the way, at venue kings dot com.

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Speaker 1: It's fifty seven damn bucks and that's with fees. Everything's included. Now, okay,

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Speaker 1: we like the Hawks minus the three good Yes, we're

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Speaker 1: all good Seahawks minus the points. You like in fact,

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Speaker 1: you hate it. Fiction to four nine, four to five one.

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Speaker 1: There's a Texan fan at the bar over there. Even

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Speaker 1: he knows the Texans are getting their ass kicked tonight.

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Speaker 2: He knows, he knows. You know what's common. You know

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Speaker 2: what's common. You know it. We're gotta break more on

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Speaker 2: Another two to two. It's another that sugar the others.

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Speaker 4: Buck the middle.

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Speaker 2: So cool stadium tasting.

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Speaker 1: God, you just you think about just the number of

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Speaker 1: mistakes they made in that game yesterday. I know the

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Speaker 1: au Haino Grand Slam was in there from Game five obviously,

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Speaker 1: but just it's almost like there was a fungus that

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Speaker 1: went to the clubhouse right before the game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everybody affected by it. And the play with Revos with

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Speaker 1: the ball off the wall. God, I'm just I'm I'm I'm.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at JP and I'm thinking asking myself, how

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Speaker 1: do you not get to third on that number one?

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Speaker 1: If you're three quarters down the line, you got plenty

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Speaker 1: of time to get back if the ball's caught. Number one,

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Speaker 1: number two, if that ball carem's off the wall, which

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Speaker 1: a lot of balls don't care him off that wall

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Speaker 1: because of the cushion they have there Dick and Toronto

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Speaker 1: at Rogers Center, they kind of die at the centerfield wall.

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Speaker 1: But if that ball hits something and finds a way

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Speaker 1: to care him off the wall, he may have even

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Speaker 1: scored it from from first.

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Speaker 2: Base on that play if he had a big enough lead.

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Speaker 1: So so many guys from Cal to JP to Julio

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Speaker 1: to Aujanio to Revos almost getting picked off again at

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Speaker 1: first base, which if they overturn that play, I don't

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Speaker 1: think he would have been shocked if they would have

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Speaker 1: overturned that play. And I'm wondering. We just had a

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Speaker 1: buddy of ours from the Mariners come down saal Aeo.

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Speaker 1: They're doing a watch party across the street a team mobile.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if what they went through last night

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Speaker 1: is gonna win some ways play a positive role tonight,

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Speaker 1: because it's so fresh, like when your kid has a

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Speaker 1: bad day at the golf course and he goes right

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Speaker 1: back out there, learns from his mistakes. A bad day

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Speaker 1: on the diamond, a bad day on the court, a

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Speaker 1: bad day on the football field. Maybe last night, in

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Speaker 1: relation to tonight's game, was the perfect game for that

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Speaker 1: to happen, perfect time for that to happen. I would

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Speaker 1: have rather had it not happen, honestly, But in relation

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Speaker 1: to tonight and just tonight, I wonder if last night

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Speaker 1: will be a positive for them this evening.

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Speaker 4: The brain dead itis that just affected all of them

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Speaker 4: last night was baffling, and it really started with that

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Speaker 4: Julio misplayers absolutely like a gold centerfield center field not

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Speaker 4: being able to catch a ball off a hop right

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Speaker 4: in his club, and then Gina with two of them

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Speaker 4: that the second was tough but I mean it just

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Speaker 4: you looked at those guys' eyes and then you looked

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Speaker 4: at the guys on the on the Blue Jays eyes

652
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Speaker 4: and it was just a different level of locked in.

653
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Speaker 2: Yes, And but we've seen the opposite in this series.

654
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: We've seen the Blue Jays look lost and we've seen

655
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: the Mariners locked in. So you're right. I mean, it's

656
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 4: a perfect example you use. I mean, you mentioned Dixon.

657
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: He did it this week. He had a terrible turner

658
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, and I was like, hey, I'm glad you're

659
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: playing this weekend, and he stepped right back and played

660
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 4: really good this weekend because he was he didn't have

661
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 4: to sit and think about it forever. That's exactly right

662
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: for the Mirrors. They don't have to sit and think

663
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Speaker 4: about it. They just go back on the field and

664
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Speaker 4: just do your job. Just go and do your They

665
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: do their job last night. It's always going to win

666
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 4: when you do your job. But you've got to just

667
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Speaker 4: do your job.

668
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be really hard to stomach this over the

669
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Speaker 1: offseason and for a long time if they do one

670
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: of these again tonight like they did last night. Right,

671
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole conversation about is this year a success?

672
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

673
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Speaker 2: Listen. I think it's gonna be. We can talk about

674
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Speaker 2: it later on down the road.

675
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Speaker 1: But if they ended like this and they play again

676
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: like they played last night, it's gonna be really hard

677
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: to stomach this over the offseason, man, you know, I

678
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: mean being up two oho and not finishing it. You

679
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: go up two to oh on the road, you're going

680
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: back home for three.

681
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: You finish that.

682
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: You finish that, and to not be able to do

683
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: it is going to be a scar and a heartache

684
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna sit around for a long time until the

685
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: day comes where they heal it.

686
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Speaker 2: And who knows.

687
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing that sucks about doing this

688
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: is that you got to go all the way back

689
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: to the beginning and start over again in February. Who

690
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: knows where the American League's gonna be next year. We've

691
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: been talking about it being wide open. Who knows where

692
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: you're pitching staff will be, will they be together, will

693
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: they be healthy? Who knows what kind of year Col's

694
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: gonna have. Who knows if Naylor's going to return? All

695
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: that stuff. You never know what the future will hold.

696
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: I think they're building something that is sustainable for a

697
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: while where they could compete for championships in World Series,

698
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: but getting there is entirely another. So this is an

699
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: opportunity that I don't want to hear anybody saying, well,

700
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: we'll get them next year. No, forget it, man, I'm

701
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: tired of waiting. The fan base is tired to wait,

702
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: and there's only only thing we can do is wait.

703
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: I get that, but man, it feels like it's not now,

704
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: We're never, But it's pretty damn close to be in now.

705
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: We're never.

706
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Speaker 1: If they can't get this done with a two games

707
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: to none lead going back home, then when the f

708
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: is it gonna happen?

709
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: Well, we had one of the greatest collections of offensive

710
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: weapons in baseball history from ninety five to two thousand

711
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 4: and one and couldn't do it, and couldn't do it,

712
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: that's right. And we got there three We got to

713
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 4: this point three times and couldn't do it, So you're

714
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: exactly right. Yeah, I think they're going to be good

715
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 4: for a lot of years in a row. But good

716
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: doesn't get you to the World Series. You gotta be

717
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: great to get to the World Series. And they can

718
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: be great right now, they've been great for the last

719
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: three months. They can be great tonight.

720
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Speaker 1: Well, this is the difference, man, between the NFC Championship,

721
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and the baseball playoffs is that it's

722
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: just every day. I mean football, the Huskies running a

723
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, the Seahawks running twenty thirteen to fourteen.

724
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Speaker 2: You know, we had a couple of weeks to enjoy it,

725
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: a week to enjoy it.

726
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: Whatever, and just walking around with their chest cock of

727
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: the walk, we're proud, we're hired up. And all the

728
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: emotions after Game five that we experienced, and I think

729
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: it was more relief than anything else, that hey, we're

730
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: one game away. We've never been this far. Everyone's running

731
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: around this block party behind me the other night. Win

732
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: one more win that can be taken away with the

733
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: snap of a finger. The other side of it is

734
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: it can go right back with the snap of a finger.

735
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: And I remember our buddy de Graz before the two

736
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: thousand and five Carolina NFC Championship game saying, you know

737
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: what this fan base deserves. They deserve to kick their ass,

738
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: and that's what they did in that game with Carolina.

739
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: So how about we kicked our ass tonight and let's

740
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: start a celebration like we've never seen. Biggest baseball game

741
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: in this city's history is at five o'clock tonight.

742
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: It's almost overwhelming when you put it like that, that

743
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna break.

744
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: Hugh Mellin's gonna join and then cracking pregame with andrews

745
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: Hurst at three point thirty Flyers and the Boys at

746
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: four o'clock with Mike Benton right here on ninety three

747
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: three KJRFM. All right, joining us right now on the

748
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: radio program, our friend mill and Hugh. I've known you

749
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: for thirty almost thirty years now, I think twenty eight years,

750
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: going back to late nineties ninety nine, and I've never.

751
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: Uttered the words on the air.

752
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Mariners win tonight, and they win the American League pennant,

753
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: and it's very, very overwhelming in some ways. So before

754
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: we talk some football, before we get your thoughts, Hughie

755
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: on the Hawks and Texans. You dub Michigan over the

756
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: weekend as a long time Seattle, like, give me your

757
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: thoughts on this Mariner matchup tonight against the Jays.

758
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 7: Man Well, I certainly am thinking back to year one.

759
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 7: I went to a lot of those games listened to

760
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 7: knee House broadcasting games when I was doing my homework,

761
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 7: so I was in it from the beginning. It would

762
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 7: be something to finally, I can't believe it's been forty

763
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 7: nine years. But look, I don't have a lot to

764
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 7: add to the conversation other than then, guys, Dave, you

765
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 7: and I talked earlier. I think that I compare this

766
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 7: to football, and then I'll pull it back to baseball.

767
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 7: And football, you play once a week. You you prepare

768
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 7: all week, and when you drive to that stadium, which

769
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 7: oftentimes you know it's a police escort to the stadium

770
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 7: every if, it feels big because you're only playing once

771
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 7: a week, right and and and there's there's magnitude, and

772
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 7: of course the NFL playoffs you have higher magnitude. But

773
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 7: every single playoff game you play in the NFL obviously

774
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 7: is winner Advanced, loser go home. They're all seventh games.

775
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 7: And so an NFL athlete is kind of used to playing.

776
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 7: When I when I play a game, it's got a

777
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 7: lot of importance. Now let's switch to baseball. Baseball, these guys,

778
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 7: they amass all their stats, all of their most a

779
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 7: lot of times, their reputation, their money, uh, based on

780
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 7: on playing a long set and a long series of

781
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 7: inconsequential games one sixty two. If I go for to

782
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 7: oh for four today, does it really matter if I

783
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 7: have an error today? Does it really matter if I

784
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 7: can't scoop up? You know, if I charge the third

785
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 7: baseline and I can't make the bare handed, does it

786
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 7: really matter? And so now even when a baseball player,

787
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 7: obviously there's a big rampupp you get in the playoffs,

788
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 7: but most playoff games, I would get guess eighty percent

789
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 7: of games are not you know, like like fifth game

790
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 7: of a five or seventh game of a seventh. So

791
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 7: even when playoff baseball, there's usually a tomorrow, or at

792
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 7: least for one team there's a tomorrow. So these guys tonight,

793
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 7: here's my point. These guys tonight are playing under stakes

794
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 7: and a weight in a magnitude that they are not

795
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 7: usually playing. Baseball has of all the team sports, there's

796
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 7: the biggest gap between the weight of what you usually

797
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 7: do and what you have in a game like tonight.

798
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 7: And so it's just like, I'm just fascinating to see

799
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 7: who can handle that pressure. And for example, how many

800
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 7: if there was an all knowing computer that could tell

801
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,240
Speaker 7: you the exact percentages of how often Julio would bubble

802
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 7: a ball like that in center field and turn a

803
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 7: single into double because he bought I mean a simple

804
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 7: right at the eyeball's cap, like I don't know what's

805
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 7: in his head. Maybe he was relaxed as hell, like

806
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 7: it's a May game, maybe it's a team it was

807
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 7: a March preseason game.

808
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: But when you.

809
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 7: Bobble a ball like that, you invite the question like

810
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 7: are you feeling the pressure? Because I would submit he

811
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 7: could do that play two hundred times in a regular season,

812
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 7: three hundred times before he'd have an error in the manner.

813
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: That he did.

814
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 7: So it just real simple. These baseball players are not

815
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 7: used to this weight, but they better be able to

816
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 7: operate in Hugh.

817
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 4: Talk about what you think the vibe in the stadium

818
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 4: will be like tonight for the Hawks and for those

819
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: Hawks players obviously they know what's going on around them,

820
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 4: But how weird is it gonna be? And was so

821
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 4: bizarre at Husky Stadium a couple of weeks ago, I mean,

822
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 4: ye had you know, by the middle of the second quarter,

823
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 4: at half the fans in the concourse not even watching

824
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: the football game, So like, how do you think the

825
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: vibe will be and how do you think it'll affect

826
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: the Hawks either positively or negatively tonight.

827
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's a little off. And we know

828
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 7: that the Seahawks of late, the numbers are what the

829
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 7: numbers are. They've only won for the last twelve games

830
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 7: at home. That right, you know, hard stop and so

831
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 7: that's got to change. But I think that I don't

832
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 7: know that Mike McDonald would address that, but I think

833
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 7: that at some point you just have to say, hey,

834
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 7: you're a professional, whether or not the Texans have, you know,

835
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 7: twenty thousand fans, which I obviously don't expect, but but

836
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 7: you'd pick any extreme whatever environment you're thrust it in.

837
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 7: It might start raining, it might start snowing. Like you

838
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 7: have to as an athlete be able to to just say, hey,

839
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 7: there's things beyond my control. They're never excuses because nobody

840
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 7: is going to, you know, give you an extra win

841
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 7: or advance you in the playoffs or anything by any

842
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 7: of your excuses. As Don James said, don't tell me

843
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 7: about the pain, show me the baity. And so if

844
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 7: you know that that that goes for tonight with the

845
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 7: maryors it goes for the Seahawks tonight in whatever environment

846
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 7: they have to plan.

847
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: Did DJ really say that to you or did you

848
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: make that up in your head? Now he said it.

849
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 7: He said it, And Gary Pinkell repeated on a frequent

850
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 7: basis the offenseive coordinator in my quarterback coach so so,

851
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 7: and he would always quote coach James. Yeah, you know what,

852
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 7: Coach James says, don't tell me about the pain, show

853
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 7: me the baby. I know that it's it sounds a

854
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 7: little crass, but you know what when you got a

855
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 7: nineteen year old who's trying to learn about how to

856
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 7: process a lot of different stimulis both as an athlete.

857
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 7: And then why do why do colleges even get into

858
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 7: the business of intercollegiate athletics? Because there was a time

859
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 7: was thought and they all it was all back in

860
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 7: the Ivy League days. The Premiere Academic Institution said, there's

861
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 7: a lesson to be learned for our young students to

862
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 7: participate in intercollegiate athlete athletics, right, and and there's there's

863
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 7: lessons you learned that you don't learn in any other classroom,

864
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 7: and stuff like accountability and the ability to say no excuses. Yes,

865
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 7: you get a job done, period into story. I think

866
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 7: those are great lessons. All right, let's language is crass.

867
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 7: Let's talk about tonight's game. If we can seek in

868
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 7: some dogs Michigan conversation. We all got about ten minutes

869
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 7: left here here.

870
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: But I'm looking at a Texan football team that is,

871
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, the record says they're two and three, but

872
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: their defense gave up fourteen to the Rams, twenty to

873
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: a good Tampa team, seventeen to Jacksonville, and then shut

874
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: out Tennessee and held the Ravens to ten. Is this

875
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: a really good defensive football team that happens to have

876
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: a terrible offense? What are we talking about here?

877
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 7: It's a really good defensive team. And they you know,

878
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 7: they're number one. They're a touchdown less than the Seahawks.

879
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 7: In fact, more than a twelve point two to nineteen

880
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 7: point five right in terms of points allowed.

881
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: So you could just stop right there.

882
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 7: But they're they're they're in the top five in yards,

883
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 7: they're thirty yards fourth and first downs allowed. Look, they're

884
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 7: a zone team that does a lot of zone pressures.

885
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 7: They bring five guys, five rushers at the quarterback, the

886
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 7: fifth most in the NFL. But yet their man demand

887
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 7: usage is twentieth and Cover one that's with a free safety,

888
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 7: twenty ninth in cover zero that's man and man with

889
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 7: no free safety. So so they're they're trying to play

890
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 7: in a way a lot of ways like Mike McDonald like,

891
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 7: try and and simulate pressures, get you to be a

892
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 7: little bit hesitant, and then play zone behind it so

893
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 7: that your coverage has a little bit more of a

894
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 7: stop gap in terms of preventing the big play. So

895
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 7: that's what they've done. The numbers. Look, you gotta go

896
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 7: and Demico Ryans a hell of a coach that you know.

897
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 7: He inherited a three and thirteen team his first year,

898
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 7: they went ten and seven. Now they got CJ. Stroud

899
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 7: with the second overall pick, they got Will Anderson with

900
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 7: the third. Remember they traded up to and they got

901
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 7: the second and third pick of the draft that year,

902
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 7: and they've gone ten and seven back to back.

903
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: There.

904
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 7: Yes, they're only two and three, Dave, but in the

905
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 7: in the in the wild card hunt, Colts obviously he's

906
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 7: six and one ahead of that division.

907
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: But in the wild card.

908
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 4: Hunt there's only one team.

909
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 7: I'm excluding the division leaders there's only one team that

910
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 7: has a better record in the lost call than them,

911
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 7: that's the Bills. So they are in a four way

912
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 7: tie with three losses for the second and third wildcard team.

913
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 7: They absolutely believe they're a playoff team. They've been on

914
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 7: PLAFF team in the last two years, and so you

915
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 7: know they're going to come in rested with the buy

916
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 7: and on the feeling right in a two game winning

917
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 7: streak that they're just starting to get things humming.

918
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: Well here, I can guarantee you tonight we're going to

919
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: be talking about those edge rushers you mentioned, Will Anderson

920
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: and then daneil Hunter against the Hawks. Tackles and the

921
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: tackles right now, according to PFF, are graded eleventh and

922
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 4: twenty second out of seventy six qualified tackles. Do you

923
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 4: buy those eleventh per Cross? Twenty second for Abe Lucas does?

924
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 4: Does that kind of check out with you based upon

925
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: what your eyes have told you about these guys?

926
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 7: All right, let me start on the left side. In

927
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 7: my opinion, when I hear these things Charles Cross, in

928
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 7: the past, I've said I don't really buy those numbers

929
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 7: because he's winning, but he's winning too deep into the

930
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 7: pocket he's in the lap of Geno Smith, and so

931
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 7: even though his man didn't touch Geno Smith, he got

932
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 7: walked back too much into the pocket. I think Charles

933
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 7: Cross is playing his best football right now. On the

934
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 7: other side, it's the opposite. I think, Abe Lucas, While

935
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 7: you say, what was twenty second grated, I think that

936
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 7: they have tried to protect him.

937
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 3: They've chipped with him more.

938
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 7: I think in one on one situations, I think he's

939
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 7: lost too many pivotal beginning with the first game in

940
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers and Bosa. Obviously that was a

941
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 7: game wrecking play, but I think Lucas concerns me he's

942
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 7: more likely to be against will Anderson. And then you know,

943
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 7: for Daniel Hunter on the other side, you know, I

944
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 7: always look at the opponents their salary cap, like who

945
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 7: do they think is their best player? Well, number one

946
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 7: on their salary cap is daneil Hunter at twenty point

947
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 7: two million, which is like the Seahawks highest guy is

948
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 7: I think under sixteen million. And so I looked at

949
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 7: I said, well, what does that rank on edge players? Well,

950
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 7: it's behind only Micah Parson, TJ. Watt and Miles Garrett.

951
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 7: He's the fourth guy, Daneil Hunter. Now you probably hurt

952
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 7: more Hurd of Will Anderson because of his you know,

953
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 7: college status and number three overall pick. But they got

954
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 7: some dudes up front in their defensive tackles are are

955
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 7: are playing really solid as well.

956
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: That front four is legit.

957
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

958
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I think about Daniel Hunter. I think about his days

959
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and I just looked it up. He's almost

960
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: thirty one years old. He's thirty one years old nine

961
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: days for God's sakes, and he's still kicking ass in

962
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. So you know, look, I mean I said

963
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: this to Dick Hugh a couple of days ago that look, man,

964
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: I mean, with this defense and McDonald's scheme and the

965
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: way Darnold's you know, spinning the football, they can just

966
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: find a way to get some consistency with their run game.

967
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Look out right, for this football team, how much confidence

968
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: do you have that they will find some consistency with

969
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: their run game? And do you think there's any chance

970
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: they'll fight it tonight?

971
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 7: I don't have confidence because I'm sick and tired of

972
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 7: talking about it and and trying to feign confidence, which

973
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 7: I really haven't done. I just I think, you know,

974
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 7: the evidence keeps stacking up that they just don't run

975
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 7: the ball. Well, I do think K nine should be

976
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 7: featured more. But but you know, this is as we said,

977
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 7: the front four, the tim Settle, the defensive tackle, Sheldon Rankings,

978
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 7: and they got a hell of a middle linebacker and

979
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 7: as Ziz al Shah here. Every time I watch him play,

980
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 7: I think that guy's like a you know, a poor

981
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 7: man's Fred Warner. So so I think they've got some

982
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 7: pieces and I I am. I am not riding on

983
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 7: the running game turning it around as a vital component

984
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 7: to win tonight, because then I'm not crazy about the

985
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 7: chances of winning.

986
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: Hugh. If you get Lovi and Witherspoon both back, what

987
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: does that do to how you can use nicky men Warrey.

988
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 7: That's a great question. I think what what it means.

989
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 7: I think you're gonna have Emon Worry as your nickel.

990
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 7: You can play more dime. So if you just want

991
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 7: to have one, you know Ernest Jones in there, and

992
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 7: so you can have that your overhang defenders be a

993
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 7: dB on either side. You could have Spoon on one side,

994
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 7: you could have Emon Worry on the other side. You

995
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 7: can have you can put Witherspoon at corner and you

996
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 7: can have Emon worry b the nickel and and I

997
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 7: did not like his you know, he's basically played two games.

998
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 7: I thought his first game against Tampa and you know,

999
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 7: he was out of position too much. I think he

1000
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 7: had a big vault in terms of his assignment soundness.

1001
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 7: Uh if that if that's a term we can discuss

1002
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 7: last week. So I thought big vault that you can

1003
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 7: just see the athleticism. You know, he's a tall, big

1004
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 7: rangy guys just with beautiful movement movements. So so this

1005
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 7: this has the potential to be a really impact player.

1006
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 7: We have not seen them together.

1007
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: I love it.

1008
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 7: The guy that they better keep an eye on his

1009
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 7: Nico Collins. Thirty six attempts the wide receiver Nico Collins,

1010
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 7: more than double the next closest, Christian Kirk, who's out

1011
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 7: tonight at sixteen. So that you've got in CJ. Stroud,

1012
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 7: he wants to get to Nico Collins. They got a hundred.

1013
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 7: He's got one hundred and seventeen passer rating when he

1014
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 7: throws the Nico Collins, so you better know where he

1015
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 7: is whoever's in that secondary. But yeah, I think Mike

1016
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 7: McDonald's kind of licking his chops to be able.

1017
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: To use some of these tools.

1018
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: Hey here, we got like two minutes left, all right,

1019
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: But I did want to get a quick take from

1020
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: you on what the hell happened to you dub in

1021
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: the second half? Seven to seven at half time, and

1022
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: then they shot themselves in the foot, the ankle, the hip,

1023
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: the shoulder, every body part you can imagine. Demon William

1024
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: is just total meltdown offensively, pick, pick, sack, fumble, turnover

1025
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: on downs, pick, what the hell happened?

1026
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1027
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, the inability to run the ball

1028
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 7: is somewhat, you know, consistent with what we've talked about

1029
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 7: with this with the Seahawks, and so that puts a

1030
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 7: little bit of a burden on the passing game. But

1031
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 7: both of those first two interceptions, the pivotal interceptions, were

1032
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 7: on first and tent and in this DNA age, when

1033
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 7: you go forward on fourth down, it really hurts to

1034
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 7: throw an interception on first and ten. The first one

1035
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 7: that was essentially a pick pick six, that was just

1036
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 7: slant flat. I was running that in middle school football.

1037
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 7: I'm not even kidding. Like, if you can't call slant flat,

1038
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 7: you got to just read off the will linebacker. If

1039
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 7: you can't see him or aware you can't, you can't operate.

1040
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 7: And then the second one was why stick that shit

1041
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 7: that the Wolverines had a good five under two deep

1042
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 7: zone defense, so you can glove that concept up.

1043
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: Why stick?

1044
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 7: And there was clearly signs of not coaching enough on

1045
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 7: what you want.

1046
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: With the tight end.

1047
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 7: Do you want to hook it up on why stick?

1048
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 7: Or do you want to keep on the move away

1049
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 7: for the middle linebacker because quarterback and the tight end

1050
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 7: uh work. But in the bigger picture, Demon Williams was

1051
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 7: given that time a year ago you had Jetfish came

1052
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 7: back on the November eleventh of last year. He said,

1053
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 7: he said, hey, we got demand this experience. This is

1054
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 7: going to help him and he mentioned a slant route

1055
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 7: in front of one hundred and seven thousand. Well, fast

1056
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 7: forward a year he threw a slant route in front

1057
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 7: of one hundred and seven thousand and was basically a

1058
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 7: pick six. So Demon Williams was given all that grooming

1059
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 7: for a game like Saturday. He has yet to really

1060
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 7: produce a signature win. And don't tell me it's the

1061
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 7: Bowl game from last year. I'll go get into that

1062
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 7: game either.

1063
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I would just add this Demon

1064
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: hasn't done it. Neither was Jetfish. I mean, those guys

1065
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: are kind of tired of the hip. You know, neither

1066
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: one has had that signature win. All right, here we

1067
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: got to run. You're doing postgame with Dick tonight after

1068
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: the game around ten.

1069
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: What a night, Seattle, enjoy it.

1070
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: Let's do it, all right. We got about a minute

1071
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: left and I'll just say this, you guys can chime in.

1072
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: Whatever happens tonight with the Mariners sound corny as hell.

1073
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: Corny as hell. I want to be proud of my

1074
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: baseball team tonight. I was not proud of them last night,

1075
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: with the way they played in Toronto. I want to

1076
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: be proud. You lose the game, you lose the game,

1077
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: but you go down freaking swinging in this game tonight.

1078
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: That's all I want. And if they do that, they're

1079
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: going to have a shot.