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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's

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Speaker 1: news radio.

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Speaker 2: Thank you al g for the news. Bradley Jay in

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Speaker 2: for Dan Ray tonight on night Side. And it's a

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Speaker 2: Christmas open house, and so far it's a lot. It

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Speaker 2: is a lot of fun. I'm going to talk to

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Speaker 2: Sharon and Lee. No, I'm going to talk to Lee

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Speaker 2: and Sharon. Hi. Lee, how are you?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Bradley? How are you? I miss you, especially on that

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Speaker 4: nighttime radio. Are they ever going to bring that back?

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Speaker 2: You know, it was pretty pretty tough on me. I

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Speaker 2: was I wasn't getting much sleep, I was getting overweight.

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Speaker 2: So this is much better.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I know it's better for you a lot. But

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Speaker 4: insomnias are having a terrible time.

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Speaker 2: You'll manage, you'll manage.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing to listen to.

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Speaker 2: Its talk about Chris, Christmas stuff. Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I want to marry Christmas to everybody and

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Speaker 4: especially people that are alone. Tonight. You know it's it's

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Speaker 4: did you hear Mark? What did Mark say?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: I think you were. You might have heard. Mark is

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Speaker 2: all alone is People are mean to him. They take

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Speaker 2: his stuff.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, well you can't get Yeah, well I

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Speaker 4: thought I'm just happy. I'm not in pain. You know,

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Speaker 4: I'm not in pain.

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Speaker 2: See that, Mark, Mark's probably still listening. See here's leone Sharon.

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Speaker 2: She's happy, she's not in pain.

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Speaker 4: I'm not in pain. I get plenty, I get all

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Speaker 4: the food I need. I got a couple of dogs here.

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Speaker 4: You know what kind of dogs I've got. Well, one

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Speaker 4: is a poodle shit, so she's going to be seventeen

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Speaker 4: next month if she makes it that she's high maintenance.

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Speaker 4: And then I've got a little stray I picked up

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Speaker 4: that's actually fifty percent minipin, twenty five percent toy poodle

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Speaker 4: and about twenty five percent bea shan with three point

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Speaker 4: five percent peak and eese mixed. And she's the cutest

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Speaker 4: little thing. She was astray and no one claimed her,

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Speaker 4: so I grabbed her and I had lost another dog,

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Speaker 4: you know, not too long.

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Speaker 2: Seem like that added up to more than one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Maybe my math was wrong. You said fifty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: twenty five.

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Speaker 4: And three fifty. It was like twenty three and twenty

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Speaker 4: three and three point five. Yeah, something like that.

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Speaker 2: That would be quite something to have a dog that

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Speaker 2: was more than one hundred per dog.

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Speaker 4: Very no, no, she's adorable. She's like a nine ten

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Speaker 4: pounds dog. She's just adorable. And she'll be two and much.

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Speaker 2: May I ask you a question, sure Christmas? What did

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Speaker 2: you used to get in your stocking? And I'm asking

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Speaker 2: this to everyone. I wonder if what Boomer's got in

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Speaker 2: their stockings is different than what people getting this stocking. Now,

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Speaker 2: if somebody's a parent and has to load oh or.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, excuse me.

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Speaker 4: Maybe no, I have spend a fortune. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: But even on the what about the stocking? What goes

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Speaker 2: in the stocking?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 2: Hard drive? Hard drive?

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Speaker 4: I remember, you know, I don't, I don't. I know

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Speaker 4: there was a stocking, but it would be socks or

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Speaker 4: I don't know, gum or something stupid like that.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't anything big.

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Speaker 2: Socks in a sock.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, new socks and gum.

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Speaker 2: And see that was back when people.

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Speaker 4: Dirt. Now I'm older than dirt, so you know, I now.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has everything they want, so it's really hard. Back then,

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Speaker 2: a new pair of socks were said, Wow, these are

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Speaker 2: going to be good with my green rubber boots that

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Speaker 2: I wear out into the winter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh, and I'm worried about Glenn. Has Glenn checked in lately?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Last time I talked to Glenn here

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Speaker 2: it was down. I hope that. I hope the Christmas

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Speaker 4: I hope it really is hard for people alone. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I've gotten accustomed to it, you know, Like I said,

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Speaker 4: to be happy. You get food, enough food, you know.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, by the way, by the way, Mark, who

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Speaker 2: whom Sharon, excuse me, Lee refers, is blind, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Mark, so Mark is blind too.

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Speaker 2: No, but Mark was complaining, and I just want to say, hey, dude,

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Speaker 4: I know. I oh, thank god. I love to get

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Speaker 4: new eyeglasses, you know, So you don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be blind, because you then you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to get glasses high fashion glasses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love getting new glass I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, I have news for you. You could still get the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, no, it's true. Well, I wish

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Speaker 4: they would bring me back that nighttime talk radio.

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Speaker 2: I'm super happy. Wouldn't have it any other way. And

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate your call.

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Speaker 4: You take care of Lee, and yeah, well I miss

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Speaker 4: you guys. Thank you. I look forward to when you

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Speaker 4: cover you know, all right, take your happy holidays. Everybody,

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Speaker 4: Thank you on behalf of everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Lee. Hmm, okay, this is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I love interacting with you. When you're on WBZ. You're

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Speaker 2: not alone, you know, like sometimes when I'm working and

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Speaker 2: I don't have anybody at home, But when I'm here working,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm with a big group of friendly people.

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Speaker 2: And before we go to break, I do want to

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Speaker 2: ask you again and maybe give you some ideas. Where

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Speaker 2: do you get the Christmas spirit? We did have Jake say,

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Speaker 2: Christmas tree lighting ceremony. That is a good idea. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not a huge church going person. I'm fascinated by theology.

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Speaker 2: I'm extremely interested in theology, and so I'd have no shame.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any compunction about saying church is a

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Speaker 2: really good place to go to get the Christmas spirit.

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Speaker 2: And let's see what are the other places? Oh yeah, hotel,

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Speaker 2: hotels at Christmas really nice hotels. Instead of buying a

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Speaker 2: bunch of presents, you could take your family to a

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Speaker 2: understand cost more than fifty dollars and that so you

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Speaker 2: add those all up, right, how many people in your family, say,

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Speaker 2: That's two really nice hotel rooms, and you know, with nice,

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Speaker 2: beautiful Christmas decoration, pretty Christmas spirity. I went to. I

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Speaker 2: but it gave me the Christmas spirit. That's why I

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Speaker 2: bring it up. I went to a very nice, big

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Speaker 2: And of course the white mountains were off in the

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Speaker 2: snow there. So that is another place to get the

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Speaker 2: Christmas spirit in the future. If you're thinking of something

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Speaker 2: should I get? Billy? What should I get? Bobby? Just

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Speaker 2: gotta lobby for it because it's pretty cool. Everybody goes up,

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Speaker 2: So how nice hotel is another place to get the

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Speaker 2: anyone else have any ideas? Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty give me a shout. It's WBZ.

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Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's

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Speaker 1: news radio.

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Speaker 2: Greetings, my friends, and welcome to a well a Christmas

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Speaker 2: open house here on night Side by the Jay for Dan.

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Speaker 2: Anything you want to talk about doesn't even have to

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Speaker 2: be about Christmas. I mean, if it's an open house

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Speaker 2: You don't need to talk about Christmas. So if you

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Speaker 2: have wanted to chat with me or any host at WBZ,

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Speaker 2: and maybe there's been a guess that wasn't addressing a

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Speaker 2: topic that you wanted to talk about, this is a

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Speaker 2: good chance to check in, and it's good practice. This

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Speaker 2: new community. That's what you'll have. If you can get

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Speaker 2: and you will have a voice. This is particularly important

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Speaker 2: And hopefully next time you call, you'll have accrued a

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Speaker 2: It bums them out, Uh, I have there are so

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Speaker 2: many Christmas topics. I have a quickie, A quickie. No, actually,

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Speaker 2: let's go to Kevin and Sharon. Then I will tell

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Speaker 2: you my most embarrassing Christmas story when it is big

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Speaker 6: Good, good evening, Bradley, Merry Christmas, Christmas, and welcome back

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Speaker 6: to the airwaves.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I've always felt that you were the most affable talk

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Speaker 6: show host personally, very personable talk show hosts I have

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Speaker 6: ever heard. Ah, well, thank you you Morgan White. I

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Speaker 6: think I think you were slightly more affable personally. But

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Speaker 6: Morgan of course has a storehouse of memories and nostalgia.

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Speaker 6: That's formidable service you will on the air as well

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Speaker 6: as on which you run as well.

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Speaker 2: I've tried to stump him and I cannot stump him.

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Speaker 2: It's just discussed thing how much he knows and I don't.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like a trick. How's it possible that he

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Speaker 2: knows all that stuff? But he does? It's real, It's crazy.

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Speaker 6: And that brings us to the next topic, which is,

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Speaker 6: I know you were at WBCN disc jockey, so you

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Speaker 6: have a storehouse of musical information. Yes, And here's my

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Speaker 6: question for you. To the movie in nineteen sixty six

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Speaker 6: one of Space Odyssey as well as the Hardest of

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Speaker 6: the Hot Carolinley, the end of the movie was Bunny

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Speaker 6: Lake is Missing. And in that movie, in one scene

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Speaker 6: It was led by the musical director and leader, although

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Speaker 6: Well, did you ever read the interview, the ambush interview

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Speaker 2: And there's one other thing about Lou that irritates me.

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Speaker 2: Well can you can you like a musician who's Can

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Speaker 6: Like, well, I think I know why because you're a nice,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my son, he's my health careful.

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Speaker 2: There you go. You're not of the sidewalk you know,

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Speaker 2: Well that's great. Now you have seen something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it takes too long to get here.

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Speaker 5: He's picking me up tomorrow for all. And I and

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Speaker 2: Go, so merry Christmas.

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Speaker 5: She called you all the time. She told me to

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Speaker 5: To move on to Nick and I and I love Trevia.

435
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 5: So Jordan Rich I want a pen.

436
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: All right, Well, good for you, and have fun tomorrow

437
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: with your son. You appreciate it. Now it's Matt in Michigan. Hi, Matt,

438
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: how are you?

439
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 3: Oh fine? Bradley good? Uh you? You know you were

440
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 3: bringing the subject about, you know, Christmas and things like that.

441
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: The one thing it's hard nowadays to have things the

442
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 3: way they were when you were younger, because myself, for example,

443
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: I just came back at four point thirty this afternoon,

444
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 3: flew in from North Carolina. I visited one of my daughters.

445
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: She lives out there with her husband and their pets.

446
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: And before I left for the airport this morning, I

447
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: told her and she would remember this because it was

448
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: about the time that she was born, and you know,

449
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: we'd have the family over. I had two other kids,

450
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: and you know, my brothers would be over and their

451
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: little kids. And the one thing about Christmas Eve that

452
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 3: I love. It's a simple thing. But we live in

453
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 3: the subdivision and if you looked out the back window

454
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: from the kitchen, we had a two lane road over

455
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: there and there would be no traffic. And to me,

456
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: that was the only day of the year that it

457
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: would be like that. It wasn't a heavily travel road,

458
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 3: but you know, occasionally you'd see a card two and

459
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 3: that night you could continue to look out that window

460
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: and there would be no traffic because everybody was where

461
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to say where they're supposed to be,

462
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 3: but you know, Christmas Eve being in a family night, No,

463
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: there was the families and there's no traffic on the road.

464
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: I just thought that was a neat thing.

465
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: Well, you know, kind of. It's similar to that in

466
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: the city. And that's why I went on weekends where

467
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 2: everybody goes away. I like to stay here because it's

468
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 2: pretty deserted. It's quite quiet on the streets, like tonight

469
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: when I go tonight, when I go home, it'll be

470
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: super quiet. I'm guessing, so I have a Q Yeah,

471
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: you know people, yeah, sure. People in Europe think of

472
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: the United States as just one monolith, one big thing,

473
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: that we're all the same. They don't get how different

474
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: the different parts of the country are. And you seem

475
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: like you spent some time down in North Carolina. It is,

476
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Is it how different is it? Is it like living

477
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 2: in another country.

478
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 3: There North Carolina? No, No, I was just there in

479
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: August the visit them, so second time in four months.

480
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: People think about everything differently than they do up in Massachusetts,

481
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: I don't think. So.

482
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: We we went out to a restaurant, an Indian restaurant

483
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 3: on what's is uh Wednesday, Monday, I think there was.

484
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 3: We went out for lunch and there was a good

485
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 3: crowd in there and we talked to a few people,

486
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 3: and you know, there's people. I don't think there's any difference.

487
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: She used to live in Oregon. She lives in Oregon

488
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: before the movie Back to North Carolina. So I went

489
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: up to visit them. So yeah, uh, you know. And

490
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 3: and another thing that was different. I remember when I

491
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: was a teenager, even before then, on Good Friday, my

492
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: mom was really strict about this. She says, you know,

493
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: you say in the house, you know, we contemplate or

494
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: pray or whatever. And there was all the radio stations

495
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: were all religious, and you know, most people were at

496
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: Homo Burn Church. And it's not the same anymore. You know,

497
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: there's businesses glore that are open on Good Friday between

498
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: twelve and three.

499
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 2: You know.

500
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's just a different setting.

501
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: Do you have children?

502
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so.

503
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 2: I'm glad to ask you this question. You remember what

504
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: you used to get in your stucking when you were

505
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: a kid. Do you put the same stuff in the

506
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: stocking for you your kids or did you? Or is

507
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: it different now? What do you put in there?

508
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: I was I was better to my kids than my

509
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: father was to me. Nothing we got and me and

510
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: my no, we never had stocking and we get we

511
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 3: get like one small gift and that was it. My

512
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: father was pretty tight with the buck.

513
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: I gotta say, So, did you feel cheated or was

514
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: that just the way it was? Uh?

515
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly I felt things should have been a little

516
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: bit better. You know, we didn't grow up in a

517
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: uh a rich uh environment. Our neighborhood. It was a

518
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: very working class area. I grew up in the city

519
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: of Detroit, and you know it was it was a

520
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: highly ethnic It was a Polish Ukrainian type area and

521
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: none of those people were overly wealthy.

522
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: But okay, you put in your kids or what did you?

523
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how old they are stocking?

524
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: Oh they're all grown now? Yeah, I got would you

525
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: have thirty three year old. I'll tell you just whatever

526
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: whatever was the big thing at the time, Like, uh,

527
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: you know, when my son was small, he was into

528
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: you know, Super Mario and things like that. I'm I'm

529
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: going way back in the early nineties, I guess, okay,

530
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 3: but you know, a little little video games and things

531
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: like that. Whatever was hot at the time, that's what

532
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: we you know, we give them and the girls. I

533
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: had had two daughters, so you know you got girl toys.

534
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: So so thanks for calling in.

535
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: You're calling all the way from Michigan, right.

536
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I've called before. I spoke to you

537
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: years ago when you were at midnight. Well, if I could,

538
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: let me just ask you one more question. Of course,

539
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: I've always wondered this, and a lot of times I

540
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: call him the Morgan Show, and when he has a

541
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: person that wants this big music. You know about hype,

542
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:37,479
Speaker 3: can you think of anything offhand that was heped and

543
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: exceeded the height? You know, a lot of times though

544
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: hype up a certain uh you know, person or group

545
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: or thing, and it's always a disappointment. But can you

546
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: name me one thing that exceeded far exceeded the hype?

547
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably I'm sure that it took so long to

548
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: record docs Oude of the Moon by Pink Floyd. They

549
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: had a lot of hype about it. But whatever the

550
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: hype was, it had to have exceeded the hype because

551
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: it was just such a monstrous piece of work that

552
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: meant so much to so many for so long, and

553
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: it still sounds unbelievable. So there's no way that did

554
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: not live up to whatever hype was there.

555
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: By the way, pardon, how about the Meatles? The Beatles,

556
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: they exceeded the hype, you know, the hype of an

557
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: Ed Celler than everybody was talking about it. Beatles are

558
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: coming to the United States. So do you think they exceeded.

559
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: The show itself? The shows they did in the United

560
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: States were more about being there because you couldn't hear anything. However,

561
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: the band itself for their career, yes they exceeded. They

562
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: went way beyond when anyone ever could have possibly expected. Absolutely, so, yes,

563
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: they exceeded the hype.

564
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. Uh still to this day, you know,

565
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: they're still talk talking reverence, even my other group. So anyway,

566
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 3: I let you go. I appreciate the time, and uh,

567
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: have a nice Christmas.

568
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely nice doc to Michigan, thank you and goodbye. We

569
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: spoke about Christmas stockings prairie briefly. I want to give

570
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: you what was in my stockings, generally, stuff like this.

571
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a grown I'm a grown up boomer.

572
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm a boomer cusp. Anyway, always on the bottom of

573
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: course of being orange, right, doesn't isn't that the case

574
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: with everyone? By the way, these were hand knit stockings,

575
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: hand knit by my grandmother Ruth or Grammy, and they

576
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: had our names and our birthdays on them and I

577
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: still have them. So they were stretching. It wasn't like

578
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: this felt stuff you could cram a lot in there.

579
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: So we all had our own specific special one made

580
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: handmade by Grammy. And in the bottom would be the

581
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: big bloomp of on orange, and then there would be

582
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: things like pencils, erasers, and slinkies. I can't imagine that

583
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: that was not a big stalking stuff for a lot

584
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: of folks. A slinky. What else is in there? Oh,

585
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: I can't remember. No, no dart guns or anything like.

586
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't fit that in there, but it's slinky was

587
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: in there. So how about you? What do you remember

588
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: about the contents of your Christmas stalking back when you

589
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: were a kid. More in the Christmas open House here

590
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: on WBZ.

591
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

592
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: That's right, it's Night Side with Dan Ray. Bradley Jay

593
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: for Dan, like to have you give me a shout

594
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: and join me for our w b Z Christmas house party.

595
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: That's what I like to call it. Think of it

596
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: as a house party. People just show up. Oh no,

597
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: actually not house party, but open house. That's what I

598
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: wanted to call it. Open house. House party is a

599
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Jay Giles thing. So it's an open house meaning you

600
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: can call it's kind of like a cross between house

601
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 2: party and open lines. Get it open house. So whatever

602
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: you want to talk about is fine. I have many

603
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: a guest lined up for this stretch where dance off

604
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: one movie Jim Sullivan, Boston, Boston Globe music writer for

605
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: a long time. He still writes for other things, and

606
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: one thing we're going to be going through with him.

607
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: We're going to have a big debate, and I think

608
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 2: I think it's the twenty ninth, just as by manner

609
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: of promotion here for what's coming up. He's going to

610
00:35:54,719 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: come in and I have a beef with the Green

611
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 2: Day because people say they're punk, they're a punk band,

612
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: and I don't think so. I don't know why it

613
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: irritates me so much, but I've gone online and asked

614
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: the question define punk rock, define it, and some people

615
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: say it's just an attitude. No, it's a lot more

616
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: than an attitude. Someone else said, I just know when

617
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: I hear it. No, that doesn't count. I need parameters

618
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: by which I can judge bands as to whether or

619
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: not they're punk. So I can decide for once and

620
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: for all if Green Day is a punk band. And

621
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: you might think that's kind of random, but I will

622
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: tell you this, probably the best hour I ever had

623
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: on wb Z was debating over what a power ballad

624
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: was and whether these various bands were power ballads. So

625
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: when he comes on, we are going to I'm gonna

626
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: give my definition, which has been well thought out and

627
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: written down, is very specific. For example, I feel I

628
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: feel that it has to come from a particular time period.

629
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: That's one reason Green Day can't be punk, because they're

630
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: not from that time. Another reason is that punk songs

631
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: by depth, they were short. That was part of the

632
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: definition of punk. Green Day has a song that's eleven

633
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 2: minutes and forty seven seconds long, called Jesus of Suburbia

634
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: not punk at all, And there are a bunch of

635
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: other stuff. Billie Joe. It takes more than a little

636
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: dark eyeliner to be punk, your punk style, punk truck.

637
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: So I'm going to have this debate with Jim. But

638
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: we're also going to do is go down this list

639
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: of Ah, there's a list of top one hundred punk bands.

640
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: We're going to go through them with you to decide

641
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: what about this band is that really a punk band?

642
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: Believe it or not. The band Blink one eighty two

643
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: is on that band on that list? Can you believe it?

644
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: My god, that all credibility for that list goes right

645
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: out the window. So that'll be on the I believe

646
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 2: it's the twenty ninth, and he'll be in No, he's

647
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: he will be with us. He's always very good. And

648
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: so maybe you went home. If you do me a

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Speaker 2: favor and if you're a music person, and let's face it,

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Speaker 2: punk rock is boomer age music. So it's not like

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Speaker 2: this is not for you. Let's take a break now

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Speaker 2: in WBZ