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Speaker 2: coming up on the show, which includes Kelsey Conway, who's

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Speaker 2: spent the week in Indianapolis covering the Bengals, and the

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Speaker 2: Some good stuff in the four o'clock hour on FC

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati and the Draft Reds are playing this afternoon with

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Speaker 2: Rhet Louder on the Hill and Goodyear against the Angels.

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Speaker 2: Will keep you up to date with what's happen in

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Speaker 2: that one. As the afternoon unfolds, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: ground to cover. Busy college basketball weekend nationally, busy college

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Speaker 2: basketball weekend locally. And yes, the UC Bearricats are listed

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Speaker 2: among the teams that are the next four out on

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Speaker 2: Joe Lonardi's bracketology. I'm just gonna say that, and that's

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Speaker 2: all we're gonna do, and we'll spend some time on

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, it was ruled by an arbiter that the

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Speaker 2: NFLPA is not allowed to release it's not allowed to

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Speaker 2: publicize their grades. You know, they do the survey of

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Speaker 2: all the NFL players and put them all into a survey,

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Speaker 2: and since they started doing this in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: every year before this year they would publicize it, release

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Speaker 2: the results. And then an arbiter stepped in and said, well,

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Speaker 2: exactly what has happened. And the Bengals, the Bengals report

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Speaker 2: like for what it's worth. Head coach Zach Taylor got

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Speaker 2: be honest, the way this works, we only really noticed

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Speaker 2: The answer should be yes. The answer should be yes.

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Speaker 5: Indianapolis was great. I'm back in Cincinnati. Had a good

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Speaker 4: With a lot. There's always like a lot to digest from.

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Speaker 5: Combine week because it's just like so much media access,

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Speaker 5: I think for me, the biggest thing that I took

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Speaker 4: I think that them.

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Speaker 5: to prepare themselves for free agency. They're going to sign players,

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Speaker 5: They're going to try to try.

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Speaker 5: To be those splashy, big names that you think.

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Speaker 2: lot of folks heard Al talk about Jordan Battle and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Jordan Battle one was actually surprising to me.

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Speaker 5: I'm with you on the BJ Hill and Chris Jenkins.

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Speaker 5: he he said, you know, I have confidence in BJ

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Speaker 2: Kelsey Conway back from Indy covering the Bengals and the

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Speaker 2: Combine for The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com. You wrote

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Speaker 2: leading up to the combine about Trey Hendrickson, and you

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Speaker 2: I would love to see this happen. I think it's

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Speaker 2: fair to be skeptical about whether or not the Bengals

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Speaker 2: and Trey Hendrickson's people can actually work together to get

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Speaker 6: Way I do.

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Speaker 5: I think that I went into it truly not knowing,

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Speaker 5: And no matter who I talked to, it was very

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Speaker 5: no way to feel about it. Obviously I know what

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Speaker 5: seen Mike Brown say I don't care like I'll tag you.

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Speaker 4: I don't care.

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Speaker 5: But I do think leaving the combine, I do think

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Speaker 5: I don't know if they have, but I had the

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Speaker 4: Potentially a trade.

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Speaker 5: I do think it's down to either a tag in

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Speaker 5: I wasn't sure of that before, and I didn't hear

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Speaker 5: I'll preface it with that, but I think it's down

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Speaker 4: I think that they're going to see this and if.

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Speaker 5: He goes to free agency and they spend and they

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Speaker 5: And you know, I do know that there were teams

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Speaker 2: So they're not gonna they're not gonna let dault Riisner

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 5: The crazy here's the crazy thing with that Mo. They

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Speaker 4: The day after the season.

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Speaker 5: You know, like there are other teams, but there are

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Speaker 4: And that's how you kind of.

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Speaker 5: Make sure these good players that remember Joe Burrow said,

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Speaker 2: Ruben Bain has tiny arms? Is that a disqualifier for

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Speaker 4: I look at it this way. He's really good. He's

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Speaker 4: His wingspan. I think that they need the plug.

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Speaker 4: That next year.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, I thought he handled all the

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Speaker 2: get it, he plays safety. There's positional value, but why

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Speaker 2: would you not want that guy on your team? And

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Speaker 2: so both those players, for me, and there were others,

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Speaker 2: I thought both handled that part of the combine extraordinarily well.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I do think that halob downs and I

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Speaker 5: do think Sony styles. I don't based off the way

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Speaker 5: he tested, he could be gone. But I do think

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Speaker 5: those are two players that just because the Bengals have

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Speaker 5: two linebackers that they drafted last year, I do think

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Speaker 5: those are two players like high on the Bengals radar.

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Speaker 2: Well, by the way, I just I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you measured your arms, but mine were thirty and a

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Speaker 2: quarter of an inch yesterday. I measured my arms.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea, and who knows. You know, in

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Speaker 5: a couple of years, Ruben Baine, it could be awesome

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Speaker 5: and and we're I can't believe we talked about this

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Speaker 5: guy's arm lines. I just know that, like you know,

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Speaker 5: what happens if it doesn't work, and it's you know,

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Speaker 5: you got two picks back to back in years where

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Speaker 5: there were some questions about there what they project, and

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Speaker 5: I just think it's a year where the Bengals have

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Speaker 5: gotten nail it, and I just don't know if you

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Speaker 5: can with.

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Speaker 2: Him one more. If it's not Joe Flacco, who should

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Speaker 2: the Bengals backup quarterback be.

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Speaker 5: So I thought about this one a lot, and I

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Speaker 5: know if I say this name, people.

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Speaker 4: You know my raise their eyebrows. But let me explain why.

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Speaker 5: I think that the Bengals need a player like maybe

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Speaker 5: Carson Wentz, where it's he's been a starter for multiple

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Speaker 5: teams and you're picking this player assuming that he is

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Speaker 5: going to play one or two games a year and

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Speaker 5: they must win games. And so when I look at

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Speaker 5: the list of pending free agent quarterbacks that I think

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Speaker 5: the Bengals you know, will pay for, he's one that

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Speaker 5: me really stood out because he's got experience in a

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Speaker 5: lot of offenses that Zach Taylor has high regard for,

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Speaker 5: like the Rams, the Chiefs, you know, those offenses that

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Speaker 5: they're not the same as the Bengals. But I really think.

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Speaker 4: That they're going to be in the market for.

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Speaker 5: A guy that has won games as a starter, not

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Speaker 5: so much a name you don't know much of. I

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Speaker 5: think that they learn the lesson that you know, even

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Speaker 5: if it's just a tiny injury for Joe where he's

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Speaker 5: you know, he's missing one game or Max too like

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Speaker 5: and you got to win those to get into the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to think of it like who

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Speaker 5: can come in and execute the offense at a high

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Speaker 5: level and distribute the ball, And you know Carson Wentz

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Speaker 5: he can't do that. So I think he's one that

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Speaker 5: I'm curious to see the Bengals interest.

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Speaker 4: In him and where that goes.

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Speaker 2: You're taking questions from readers. You published your first mailbag

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Speaker 2: response today. Where can people submit questions to you on

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Speaker 2: what kind of questions are you looking for?

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Speaker 5: So I am open to any questions about the Bengals

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Speaker 5: or the NFL. This is just a way for me

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Speaker 5: to try and engage with our readers over at Cincinnati

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Speaker 5: dot com. And so you can email me if you

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Speaker 5: go on Cincinnati dot com in the story my first

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Speaker 5: mail bag release, my email is in there, and then

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Speaker 5: also just shoot me a message on on X. I'm

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Speaker 5: pretty active there too, and so I will try to

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Speaker 5: get to as many questions as possible. I was really excited.

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Speaker 5: I got a ton of questions last week. So if

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Speaker 5: you're listening and you have a question in mode doesn't

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Speaker 5: answer it. You can take a shot with me online.

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Speaker 5: He's pretty good. He answers a lot of questions. But

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Speaker 5: if there's something else that you have, it's just a

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Speaker 5: way for me to try and engage more with our

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Speaker 5: readers over there. So shoot them my way.

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Speaker 2: All right, check out out at Cincinnati dot com. By

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Speaker 2: the way, really quick while we're while we're on the internet,

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Speaker 2: Joe lenardidebracketologist for ESPN dot com, has our Bearcats as

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Speaker 2: seventy six, next four out. They've got a pulse killsel.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe as I do that they will win

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Speaker 2: their next six games and have their name pop up

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Speaker 2: on the screen on selection Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Email, No, it's funny out.

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Speaker 5: It's Friday. I'm gonna try and have some good fives.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to the game tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: I'll be there.

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Speaker 5: I'm really excited. I'm gonna I'm just gonna sprinkle some

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Speaker 5: optimism here and say let's go for it.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I do think they can win out.

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Speaker 5: And that time the doom and gloom, it's almost March.

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Speaker 5: Let's just, you know, provide some positivity around see basketball

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Speaker 5: and see what they can do.

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Speaker 2: I've already made plans to watch their first round NCAA

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Speaker 2: tournament game at the Holy Grail with you. So put

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Speaker 2: that on your calendar because it's online and we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Thanks so much for having me on though, you're the best.

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Speaker 2: Kelsey Conway covering the Bengals for the Inquirer and Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: dot Com. Taking your questions submit them on her mail bag.

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Speaker 2: We are way late twenty three from four o'clock sports

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Speaker 2: a difference if he was if he was coming back

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Speaker 2: out for the fourth and I don't know that he

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Speaker 2: is or he isn't, he would have a no hitter

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Speaker 2: going right now. The Reds is a team, have a

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Speaker 2: spring training no hitter going. It's one nothing. Cincinnati Jose

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Speaker 2: Travino drove in the only run of the game. Reds

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Speaker 2: batting in the bottom of the third College basketball tonight.

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Speaker 2: The twenty first rated Miami RedHawks on the road again

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Speaker 2: tonight at Western Michigan. Miami won the first matchup between

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Speaker 2: these two teams eighty seven to seventy six. That game

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Speaker 2: tips off in Kalamazoo at six o'clock tonight. Also, the

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Speaker 2: Dayton Flyers, looking for a fifth consecutive victory coming off

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Speaker 2: their win over Saint Louis. The other night, the Flyers

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Speaker 2: take on George Washington. George Washington. They are no longer

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Speaker 2: the Colonials. The game is in Washington, DC. They are

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Speaker 2: the Revolutionaries. Also, there is a good Top ten matchup

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Speaker 2: tonight between Michigan and Illinois. Tomorrow's Xavier host Georgetown Musketeers

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Speaker 2: have lost three straight. Hoyas have lost five consecutive games.

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Speaker 2: XU did win the first matchup. That's the game where

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Speaker 2: Ed Cooley threw a water bottle because he was mad

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Speaker 2: and it hit like it was like the sun or

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Speaker 2: the nephew of one of his and Cooley got mad.

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Speaker 2: He has reasons to be mad because his team stinks.

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Speaker 2: That game is tomorrow at one thirty at the Cintas Center.

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Speaker 2: You see his home for Oklahoma State. The Cowboys won

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Speaker 2: their last game against West Virginia. Tomorrow's tips off at two.

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Speaker 2: You can hear that on seven hundred wlow Kentucky tries

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Speaker 2: to avenge a blowout loss earlier this season to Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 2: I feel like right now Kentucky would be safely in

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Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. The problem is, I think they're going

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Speaker 2: to make it. My guess is they find a way

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Speaker 2: to win one of these last three games, but the

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Speaker 2: schedule now there are no more South Carolina's on Kentucky's

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Speaker 2: remaining schedule. Tomorrow's game can be heard on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty at tips off at two o'clock. Louisville at Clemson

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Speaker 2: tomorrow and Tomorrow night on ESPN fifteen thirty. NKU battles

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Speaker 2: Right State. Now the Norse still have a chance to

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Speaker 2: play a home game in the Horizon League Tournament. In

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Speaker 2: order for that to happen, this is their last regular

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Speaker 2: season game. They take on Wright State tomorrow night. NKU

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Speaker 2: has to win, green Bay has to win, They need

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Speaker 2: a Detroit Mercy loss and a Perdue Fort Wayne loss.

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Speaker 2: So like four things have to happen for the North

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Speaker 2: to host a game in the Horizon League Tournament. Sunday,

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Speaker 2: it's Ohio State taking on Perdue. If you're a Bearcat fan,

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Speaker 2: you might already be rooting against the Buckeyes, But if

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Speaker 2: you believe Cincinnati has a chance to make the NCAA Tournament,

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Speaker 2: you gotta start watching some of these games involving teams

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Speaker 2: they have to leap frog one of them. One of

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Speaker 2: those teams is Ohio State. Another is Indiana, and look,

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Speaker 2: we're having fun with this. We are talking about something

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Speaker 2: that is extraordinarily unlikely, which we'll dive into in just

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Speaker 2: a second. Soccer tomorrow, FC Cincinnati is on the road

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Speaker 2: against Minnesota and that game can be heard on the

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Speaker 2: Project one oh six point three and one hundred point seven.

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Speaker 2: Cyclones skate tonight on the road against Fort Wayne. They've

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Speaker 2: got there since Natty three ways home game tomorrow against

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Speaker 2: Kalamazoo and then another game on Sunday afternoon against Kalamazoo.

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Speaker 2: We had just and Vive on the show yesterday who

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Speaker 2: with his next point will be the all time leader

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Speaker 2: endpoints in Cyclones franchise history. If you miss that conversation,

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Speaker 2: it is available on the iHeartRadio app. The UC thing

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Speaker 2: we're having fun with, but it does feel like their

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Speaker 2: tournament chances have a pulse now. I think sometimes what

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Speaker 2: we do is we talk about like, well, if they

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Speaker 2: win these many games, that are going to be fine.

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Speaker 2: I agree with something that Chad Brendel said on the

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Speaker 2: I feel like conference tournaments we overstate their importance. I

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Speaker 2: love them. I love conference tournaments. Next next, well, next

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Speaker 2: week is when some conference tournaments begin, like the Horizon League.

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Speaker 2: But champ Week, which used to be Championship Week, is

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Speaker 2: my favorite week on the sports calendar because I love

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Speaker 2: the positioning, I love the dash to get in. I

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Speaker 2: hours a day for like five days straight. But I

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Speaker 2: do think we overstate the impact of winning games in

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Speaker 2: the conference tournament on how the bracket is compiled. And

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes like and Jolnardi, who has God love him,

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Speaker 2: He's created bracketology. He's made a lot of money over

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Speaker 2: on being the bracketologist of record year in and year out,

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Speaker 2: He's rarely the most accurate. I think our guy Hunter

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Speaker 2: Sansum is better, but for what it's worth, Jolanardi has

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Speaker 2: the most widely known bracketology website and he's got Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: as team number seventy six. I think what we do sometimes,

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Speaker 2: and I'm guilty of it as well, is we fail

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Speaker 2: to understand how hard it is this late in the

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Speaker 2: season to jump all those teams, most of which, if

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Speaker 2: not all, will win a game at some point. It's

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Speaker 2: really hard to go from seventy six to sixty eight

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00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 2: now they can start with a win against Oklahoma State tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: It's not a very good Oka State team, but the

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Speaker 2: margin for error is almost non existent. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: you're not going to get a lot of credit for

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Speaker 2: beating Oklahoma State. That's going to be a Q three win.

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Speaker 2: You've got to beat a good, even without Richie Saunders

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Speaker 2: BYU team, and you have to go on the road

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Speaker 2: and beat a TCU team that is fighting for its

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Speaker 2: at large lives as well, plus play in the Big

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Speaker 2: Twelve tournament and maybe win as many as three games

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Speaker 2: before you feel like they're in. And even if they

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Speaker 2: do that, I'm not sure you're going to wake up

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Speaker 2: on Selection Sunday feeling like they are in. Now all

651
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Speaker 2: of that said, as frustrating as Tuesday Night's loss was,

652
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 2: three weeks ago, nobody was entertaining this possibility. So they've

653
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: gone from no one even looking at bubble Watch and

654
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: bracketology and pondering their NCAA tournament chances to now at

655
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: least acknowledging that they're faint. But they are there. And

656
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Speaker 2: if you're like me, and for the most part, for

657
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: your sake, I hope you're not, you know you can

658
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: kind of get lost this weekend in not just rooting

659
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: for you. See, if you're a Bearcat fan, and the

660
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: first thing that has to happen is they've got to

661
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: beat Oklahoma State at home. Oklahoma State without a player

662
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: who's averaging more than fourteen points a game, suffered an

663
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: ACL tear in the game against West Virginia. But you

664
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Speaker 2: start to look at some of the teams that are

665
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: theoretically either in front of them or in competition with

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Speaker 2: them for a spot, and that's fun this time of year.

667
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: It's more fun this time of year when you know

668
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: your team is getting in. But they do have a shot,

669
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: it's a very outside shot. It's extremely, extremely unlikely. I've

670
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: been accused of being too negative as it relates to

671
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: their NCAA tournament chances. Because this team, which has been

672
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 2: a model of inconsistency, lots of ups and downs on offense,

673
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 2: you're asking them to win at least five consecutive games,

674
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: and I would argue probably six consecutive games. And you

675
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: need all the other things around them to happen as well.

676
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: You need no bidstealers, you need probably Ohio State to

677
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: lose a lot of games in Indiana to lose a

678
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: lot of games, and TCU to lose a lot of games.

679
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: In Seaton Hall to lose a lot of games, and

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Speaker 2: you know, chances are at least some of those teams

681
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Speaker 2: are going to win some games. It's what we're hoping

682
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 2: they do. And by the way, this is just one

683
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: person's projection. You know, how the committee views Cincinnati is

684
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: an entirely different story. But at the very least, they've

685
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: gone from this being just not even a conversation to

686
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: one that you at least look at those websites to

687
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: see if Cincinnati is being regarded as having a chance.

688
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: And for the most part they are. Again from a

689
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: pure basketball perspective, which is what is of far more importance,

690
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: how do they play well and offensively? Favorite? They'll be

691
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: favorite tomorrow. I have not seen the line yet, but

692
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: they'll be fair tomorrow. I think they're gonna be slight

693
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: home dogs against BYU. I'm pretty sure they're gonna be

694
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: road dogs against TCU. And then I think, if I'm

695
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: looking at this correctly, and I might not be, I

696
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: think they can get as high as the seventh seed

697
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve tournament. Then it's matchups and all

698
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. But for this to happen, a

699
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: series of events is going to have to occur. And

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Speaker 2: there's a difference between each and all those games I

701
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: just mentioned. Cincinnati can win each of them? Can they

702
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: win all of them plus a few more in Kansas City,

703
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: Let's be honest with the way they've played. The likely

704
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 2: answer is no. But it's at least something we're entertaining,

705
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: and we were not doing that a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: night away from four o'clock FC Cincinnati I mentioned is

707
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 2: on the road tomorrow. Kendrick D. St Aubin has the

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Speaker 2: call for Apple TV. It's a day game tomorrow. Looking

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00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: forward to chatting with her. And we've got a guy

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Speaker 2: at fourth row. He's actually from Cincinnati. He's actually a

711
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 2: Bengals fan grinding the mocks, So we're gonna spend the

712
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 2: next two months obsessing over mock drafts. This guy does

713
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Speaker 2: this for a living, and he puts them all into

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Speaker 2: one place. He kind of looks at all the mock drafts,

715
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Speaker 2: so you and I don't have to. We'll chat with

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Speaker 2: him about the Bengals in the draft coming up at

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Speaker 2: four thirty five. I also might do a line by

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Speaker 2: line explanation of something I put on Twitter last night.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in the four o'clock hour. It's eight away

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Speaker 2: from four. I'm Moegar. Glad you with us today on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, we we it's four oh four. This

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Speaker 2: is ESPN fifteen thirty on Moegger. Appreciate you listening. We

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Speaker 2: have two good guests later on this hour. Kendrick D.

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Speaker 2: Sent Auvin from MLS. It's actually no longer MLS season pass.

739
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna take like a month for me to get

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Speaker 2: that out of my brain. But it's still Apple TV

741
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Speaker 2: and she's calling the game on tomorrow. On tomorrow, FC

742
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati on the road against Minnesota. And and somebody who's

743
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Speaker 2: working I'm really interested in. Like I like mock drafts.

744
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 2: They can be overkill because there's so many of them,

745
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: and many take them way too seriously, but they could

746
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Speaker 2: serve if you find the right people. They could really

747
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: serve of us a guy as you try to be

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Speaker 2: more informed, Uh, as the draft gets closer, We've got

749
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Speaker 2: a guy on from a grinding the mocks in thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: He's the Cincinnati native Ben Robinson, and we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about about the Bengals. I have no capacity to speak

752
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Speaker 2: right now. We're going to talk about the Bengals in

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Speaker 2: the combine with him coming up at four thirty five.

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Speaker 2: We also have we'll pull back the curtain here Tarran

755
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: and I we have with this in studio, a young man,

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00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: uh Matt Tarran. This, this guy wants to be in broadcasting.

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Speaker 2: This is that why he's here today.

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Speaker 9: He wants to sue a career in sports radio.

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00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 2: Yes, he wants to pursue a career in sports, in sports,

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00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: in sports talk radio, like specifically.

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Speaker 9: What we're doing, yes, more so what's your yes?

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Speaker 2: And more so what I'm doing? Well? Has he has?

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Speaker 2: Has the first hour scared him away?

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Speaker 9: No, he's still here. He's still still here. Curious.

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Speaker 2: Has he learned anything.

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Speaker 9: He's learned a lot. Well, matter of let him talk

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Speaker 9: while I'm talking for well, put him on.

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Speaker 2: The put him on the mic. This we'll see, we'll

769
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Speaker 2: see if he has what it takes. Uh, Matt, you

770
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: graduated from Clemson?

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Oh, very good. Are you having fun?

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Speaker 6: I am? I'm having a blast.

774
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Speaker 2: And you want you want to be a sports talk

775
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Speaker 2: radio host one day?

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 6: I think sports are obviously very fun obviously, but I

779
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 6: think it's a great way of uniting people too, And okay, yeah,

780
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Speaker 6: it just keeps people's mind off of things, and everyone's

781
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Speaker 6: interested and everyone has their own opinion on it, and

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Speaker 6: I think it's just a fun way to engage the audience.

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Speaker 2: Are you from Cincinnati?

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Speaker 9: Honest?

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Speaker 6: No, Actually I'm originally from South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: How did you end up here in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 6: When I went to college, my a lot of family

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Speaker 6: in the area of Cincinnati. My parents, they said, Okay,

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Speaker 6: you're all set, you're settled in at school. You're cool

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Speaker 6: if you moved to Cincinnati be closer family. I said,

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Speaker 6: of course, that's cool with me because it you know,

793
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Speaker 6: they didn't want to move while I was in high

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Speaker 6: school and pulled me out in the middle of school.

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Speaker 6: So once it got settled, that was a story. And

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Speaker 6: came back here and I'm loving Cincinnati. It's it's a

797
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 6: great city, a lot of good people.

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Speaker 2: It is. It's it's the best ever. I'll never move.

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Speaker 2: But let me let me ask you this. Have you

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Speaker 2: ever thought about a career that is either lucrative or

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00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: provides some degree of societal value? You know I have.

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Speaker 6: I have thought about that, and it's a this is

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Speaker 6: not for me. Yeah, I like this side of the industry,

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Speaker 6: and you know, you talk about societal value. I think

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Speaker 6: this is societal value. I think this is it though,

806
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Speaker 6: right a lot of people. I think I think it

807
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Speaker 6: does provide an avenue for, like I said, people to

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Speaker 6: come together, have fun and not take life too seriously.

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Speaker 2: Well, see, you've captured the ethos of what this industry

810
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: is supposed to be. About but I will tell you this, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I meet people who have real jobs or

812
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: like they're like actually helping the community, they're helping society.

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00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're they're providing a service, they're making

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00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: people's lives better. We just fill airtime. So you know,

815
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Speaker 2: just as long as you can wrap your brain around that.

816
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: If if you're not, like you know what, I need

817
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: something that's fulfilling and helps people and enriches their lives.

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00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: If you don't need that, then this industry is for

819
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Speaker 2: you. You'll thrive.

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Speaker 6: I guess I'm selfish then yeah, I like this industry.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hey, do you have any practical experience?

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Speaker 6: Yes, I do.

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Speaker 11: I do.

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Speaker 6: When I was yeah, yeah, when I was at Clemson,

825
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Speaker 6: I was helping out with a couple of local radio stations,

826
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Speaker 6: did some co hosting, did run the board. So yeah, perfect,

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Speaker 6: I got my resume for you bo.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I don't hire anybody because that would

829
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 2: be a disaster. But you know, I'm glad you're here

830
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Speaker 2: and hopefully you're learning something. I don't know what it

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Speaker 2: would be, but maybe by the end of the show

832
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Speaker 2: we'll capture your impressions of what it's been like. To

833
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Speaker 2: witness this amazing broadcast. Matt, Matt, welcome, it's nice.

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Speaker 6: To have you. Thank you, Bo. It's great talking with you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. All right, Reds are playing right now,

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00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: and Rhet Louder pitched very well in his three innings

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Speaker 2: of work. Did not give up a run, did not

838
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: give up a hit, struck out three, and then it

839
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Speaker 2: was time for him to hit the showers or I

840
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: don't know if he took a shower, but Julian Agiar

841
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: came in and and then he imploded. So it's a

842
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 2: three to one Angels as the Reds come to the plate,

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00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: Actually they just got done hitting in the Yeah. No,

844
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: they're about to hit in the fifth inning. I have

845
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 2: no idea what I'm doing. We got a guy who's

846
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: here to learn from me, and I am fumbling all

847
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: over the place nine minutes after four o'clock. You know,

848
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: perhaps over the course of the afternoon, collectively we could

849
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: pass along some advice to Matt. I think it's awesome

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Speaker 2: when you find college kids who are like, I want

851
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: to do this. I want to do this. I want

852
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: to do sports talk radio. I want to get into broadcasting.

853
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: The one thing our industry has done a terrible job

854
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Speaker 2: of is getting kids to want to do this. And

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Speaker 2: I say that going back to when I was a kid,

856
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: starting twenty nine years ago, this industry is atrocious at

857
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: you know, welcoming younger kids, younger people to want to

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Speaker 2: be a part of it. And so if we could,

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00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: in our own small way, change that, we will. Although

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Speaker 2: I will admit if you are looking for a job

861
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: that provides some degree of societal benefit, this ain't it.

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00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: My wife works in healthcare and we compare notes sometimes

863
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, and she'll talk about

864
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Speaker 2: the patience she helped and the lives that she made better.

865
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Speaker 2: And I'll say today I talked about Trey Hendrickson for

866
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: twelve consecutive minutes. You can also send a tweet to

867
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: the show at Moager. I tweeted last night something I

868
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: responded to an open ended question from an account that

869
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: I will admit I do not follow our old ball game,

870
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: which I guess I should follow it. But they asked,

871
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: if you were MLB commissioner, what would be one of

872
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 2: the first things you would change or do? Quote tweet

873
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: your answer, and I looked at some of the responses.

874
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: I looked at some of the quote tweets, and there

875
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: were two prevailing themes, both of which I agree with.

876
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: One is let's come up with a way to eliminate

877
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: any and all blackouts, like let's make games on television

878
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: as accessible to as many people as possible. And then

879
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: the other prevailing theme was get rid of the what

880
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: I call magic runner rule. I don't know why people

881
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: call it a ghost runner. The runners a real person.

882
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: But you know how an extra innings we've done this

883
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: since the COVID year twenty twenty were an extra innings

884
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: both teams start with a guy on second base. And

885
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: I don't understand why. I get why we're doing it,

886
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 2: because you know, we don't want managers to run out

887
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: of pitchers and that sort of thing. I've believed from

888
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: the get go that this is a solution in search

889
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: of a problem. We did not have an epidemic of fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,

890
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: eighteen inning games before. We were solving a problem that

891
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: frankly did not really exist. I attempted last night because

892
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: I had like twenty minutes to kill and I'm like,

893
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to answer this, and I'm

894
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: going to answer this with all the things that I

895
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 2: would do, and so I had one, two, three, four, five, six, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen.

896
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 2: I had fifteen things I said I would do. Now,

897
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: this is fantasy land, because for a commissioner to get

898
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: anything done like my ambitious list, you would need the

899
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: cooperation of owners, and I would be willing to bet

900
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: that on my list of things. By the way, the

901
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: Twitter feed is at Moeger thanks to Delta Dental. That

902
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: on my list of things, there's a lot of stuff

903
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: that owners would be like, yeah, we're not doing that,

904
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: but it's an imaginary exercise and so I kind of

905
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: had fun with it, and so I put it out

906
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: there on Twitter last night at nine thirty three, and

907
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 2: then I went about my Thursday night, which includes meeting

908
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: friends at a local West Side establishment, and I read

909
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: this morning some of the responses, and I was asked

910
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: by a few like can you expand on some of

911
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: this stuff? I don't know why some of this stuff

912
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: needs to be expanded upon, but I'll I will, and

913
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: I don't have a ton of time here, so I'll

914
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: do some of them, like elimination of all blackouts, removal

915
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: of magic Runner rules. Well, I put that at the

916
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: top of the list. I also had eliminate base coaches,

917
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: because you know, baseball teams are always looking to cut expenses.

918
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: Would the game be any different if we didn't have

919
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: base coaches? No, No, A love fielder doesn't have a

920
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: coach standing next to him telling him more to throw

921
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: the ball if he catches it. You know, we don't

922
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: have guidance for the guys in the field as they're playing.

923
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: Why do we have it for base runners? Why do

924
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: we have it for base runners? And then there's like

925
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 2: some stuff that I think would just make the sport better.

926
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 2: I wrote the two worst performing teams forfeit all National

927
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: TV revenue. And I've been hearing a lot of solutions

928
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: being thrown out because the NBA has a tanking problem,

929
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: and one might argue has a tanking perception problem, although

930
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: I think tanking is a real enough issue that it

931
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: should be looked at, and so I've sort of leaned

932
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: into some of the creative people coming up with solutions here,

933
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: and I've been thinking about, like, what can we do

934
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: to punish teams that lose either intentionally or lose consistently,

935
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: because losing should be punished, right, Winning should be rewarded.

936
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: So I've always joked, and it's not really a joke, like,

937
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: if you want to make sports better, give the team

938
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: that wins the title the first pick in the next

939
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: year's draft, Like that'll change things a little bit. We're

940
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: rewarding success, we're punishing failure. The two worst performing teams

941
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: forfeit all national TV revenue. There are a lot of

942
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: owners that simply collect checks and don't try to win. Well,

943
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: what if we take away some of those checks. Here's

944
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: one that I believe in. Institute a policy that a

945
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: team that reduces its player payroll by more than ten

946
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: percent from one year to the next must reduce ticket

947
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: prices across the board by double the same percentage. There

948
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: is nothing more galling than a team that reduces its

949
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: player payroll and then raises ticket prices. This is one

950
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: that I think is gonna happen one day. Pair down

951
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 2: the number of end of season awards. We really don't

952
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 2: have an American league in a national league anymore. They're

953
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: not separate entities. We don't need two MVPs in the NBA.

954
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: We have an NBA MVP. We don't have Eastern Conference

955
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: MVP Western Conference MVP. By the way. The debates will

956
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: be better if it's just about one MVP, one Rookie

957
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: of the Year, one Cy Young Award winner, prohibit teams

958
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: from picking in the top eight of the draft in

959
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: consecutive years. That's pretty self explanatory. Tanking is not as

960
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: much of an issue right now, but like, let's drafts

961
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: or bailout for bailouts for bad organizations, so let's stop

962
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: giving them repeated bailouts. Elimination of corporate logos on uniforms

963
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: and helmets. That's not realistic. It doesn't bother me as

964
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: much on the uniform but when we get to the

965
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: postseason and there's that big, stupid logo for whatever company

966
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: that is on the helmets, that's ugly. Bring back bullpen carts,

967
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: that's simple. This is one that I believe in. The

968
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: Reds get mad at me when I mention it. Automatic

969
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: rain check for anyone holding a ticket to a game

970
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: that's either started at least forty five minutes late due

971
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: to rain or had an in game rain delay of

972
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: at least thirty minutes. That's got to happen. That's common sense.

973
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: Reduction of postseason teams back down to ten the format

974
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. It's fine. It dilutes the regular season,

975
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: it waters it down. Eliminate pitcher wins and losses as

976
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: an officially recognized statistic. That's easy to do, because we've

977
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: done that on this show. It's it's never been necessary

978
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: to credit a pitcher with a win or a loss

979
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: of his team wins or loses, oftentimes for reasons that

980
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: he has nothing to do with. Teams must instantly slash

981
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: ticket prices by forty percent for any home games played

982
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 2: with the home team eliminated from playoff contention. Again, we're

983
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: sort of punishing losing here, like, all right, you'll play

984
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: all your games, but you're not gonna charge full price

985
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: tickets if you're playing games that don't matter to you.

986
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: In September, and every team must do what a lot

987
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: of minor league teams do. The Louisville Bats do this.

988
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: In like May, they'll have these eleven am games, which

989
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: is open to the public, but they invite school groups.

990
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: Every team must hold one ten thirty am Baseball Education

991
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: Day game in late April or early May, with large

992
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: school groups getting significantly discounted tickets. The Cyclones do this.

993
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: Your local major league baseball team can do this, so

994
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: there you go. The entire list is on Twitter at Moeger.

995
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 2: You can add to it, subtract to it if you want.

996
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: Five point three seven four nine fifteen thirty FC Cincinnati one.

997
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: It's an MLS opener at home now they hit the road.

998
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: Kin Tredecent Auburn is calling the match for Apple TV

999
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Speaker 2: and she joins US next.

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Speaker 3: A truck lost part of its load on that ramp.

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Speaker 3: On southbound seventy one seventy five. It's a disabled vehicle.

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Speaker 3: On the off ramp to US forty two in Florence,

1009
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Speaker 3: the left and center lane blocked on that. He's that

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Speaker 3: like with traffic. This report is sponsor for four.

1011
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen to thirty one leg or FC

1012
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: Cincinnati one. It's MLS regular season opener on Saturday of

1013
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: last week against Atlanta, the game where uh FC Cincinnati

1014
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: fans held their breath. You held your breath, I held mine,

1015
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: wondering what the deal is going to be with the

1016
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: Evander injury. Did not play on Wednesday. He had plenty

1017
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: of company there in the CONCACAF Champions Cup. Pat Noonan

1018
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: today didn't want to go into full details as to

1019
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: his availability for tomorrow, but he did not go in

1020
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: the portion of team training open to the media, and

1021
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: I think most would expect to not see Evander tomorrow.

1022
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: Orange of Blue hit the road to take on Minnesota.

1023
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: That game starts at four thirty. You could watch it

1024
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: on Apple TV where Kindred d st Auburn has the

1025
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: call and like, what's a home game for her? The

1026
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: Minnesota legend kind enough to join us. It's awesome in the

1027
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 2: heavy Kindre, how are you.

1028
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me?

1029
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 12: I appreciate it.

1030
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: Is this going to be the coldest game that FC

1031
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: Cincinnati has ever played in?

1032
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 12: Oh Man, that's a tough one for me to answer.

1033
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 12: You know, yesterday our media availability with Patt Newton, I

1034
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 12: got pushed back like a half hour an hour because

1035
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 12: they said, you guys got snow yesterday. And then Pat

1036
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 12: came on the call and was like laughing because it

1037
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 12: was like melted by nine o'clock. So that's not something

1038
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 12: you know, we shy away from here in Minnesota's snow

1039
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 12: and cold.

1040
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: No, I'm looking at the expected temperature for a game

1041
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: time at twenty degrees, so it'll be nice and warm

1042
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: in the booth, I guess, and plenty of chili on

1043
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 2: the field. Obviously, the headline would AFC Cincinnati one and

1044
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: B Evander went down, and kind of in the aftermath

1045
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 2: of the game, we were wondering, what's what's the injury,

1046
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: what's the extent of it? It does feel like Dave

1047
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: dodged a bullet. Beyond that, what stood out when you

1048
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: watched FC Cincinnati season opening match, Well, watching.

1049
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 12: That game, I probably much like you held my breath

1050
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 12: when you saw Evander go down and you know, ten

1051
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 12: minutes into the match, that's just not what you want

1052
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 12: to see. And I think Pat Nunan was really looking

1053
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 12: forward to having a full healthy squad heading into the season.

1054
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 12: That's something he had talked about. But at the same time,

1055
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 12: when you have a player like Dado Velanzuelo, who is

1056
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 12: not Evander but still a young player, that has earned

1057
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 12: minutes and they were going to try to find him

1058
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 12: minutes with everybody healthy, I thought he stepped right into

1059
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 12: did a great job. And then you know some of

1060
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 12: the back line situation there. I mean, you cannot doubt

1061
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 12: Miles Robinson and his quality and his pace and his

1062
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 12: speed and his understanding and reading of the game. So

1063
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 12: there were a whole lot of things to like if

1064
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 12: you're Cincinnati, so you lose Evander in ten minutes in

1065
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 12: and you still come away with it too. Nothing win

1066
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 12: against a team in Atlanta who is supposed to be,

1067
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Speaker 12: you know, firing on all cylinders under Tato Martine.

1068
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Speaker 13: So I thought there was a lot of great stuff.

1069
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Speaker 12: I mean, Haglin getting into the goal, which I'm sure

1070
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 12: felt like redemption for him, Dank scoring which is exactly

1071
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 12: what you need him to do. There are a lot

1072
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Speaker 12: of good things in that game for Cincinnati fans.

1073
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Speaker 2: I think for me, like, obviously they need Evander, and

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Speaker 2: everybody breathing a big sigh relief that you know, the

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: Test came back, you know, not revealing anything that's going

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00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 2: to be long lasting, but one of the themes of

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00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: last season I felt like, and you and I may

1078
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: have even talked about this when you joined us. It

1079
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: felt like it last year. They leaned on him at

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00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: times a little bit too much. And if the big

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00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: story this offseason was we've got to create more offense,

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00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: to me, that's we've got to create more offense independent

1083
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: of Evander and they passed that test last Saturday. Well.

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Speaker 12: First of all, when you put a player like Jabari

1085
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 12: up top with Denk and completely different profile of a player.

1086
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 12: They both have good size to them, but how they

1087
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 12: can play off of each other, I think that's something

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00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 12: that they can continuing to learn how to do through

1089
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 12: preseason and now that you guys have had a couple

1090
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 12: of games under your belt with the cock Gap Champions Cup.

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00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 12: Depending on who is playing in what match, and you're

1092
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 12: absolutely right, Pat Newman said the same thing. He needs

1093
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 12: to find more ways to be aggressive and not predictable

1094
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 12: is not the word of efficient in the final third

1095
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 12: with Ramirez with Etchanik and now you've got pace on

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00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 12: the outside, you've got two players who can go forward

1097
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 12: in that final third and be a little bit more dynamic,

1098
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 12: keeping the defenses off balance. A lot of good things

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00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 12: in this crew, and I think that when you look

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00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 12: at Roman Salentano between the pipes, just continuing to mature

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00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 12: and grow into his own and that leadership and consistency aspect.

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Speaker 13: They're going to.

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00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 12: Feel good about, you know, heading on the road to

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00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 12: face this Minnesota team, but also getting better results and

1105
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 12: more results at home, which I know is something they

1106
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 12: struggled with last year.

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00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the other themes of the offseason, something

1108
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: that Chris Albright talked about extensively. FC Cincinnati and Minnesota tomorrow,

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00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: So a roadmatch for FC Cincinnati starts at four thirty.

1110
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: Kendred Saint Aubyn has the call on Apple TV. One

1111
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: opponent's going to be the weather. The other is going

1112
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 2: to be this Minnesota team. Tell me about them.

1113
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 12: Well, Minnesota United looks a little bit different this season.

1114
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 12: New head coach Cameron Knowles, who I say knew head coach,

1115
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 12: but he was the interim head coach in twenty twenty

1116
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 12: four before Eric Ramsey arrived. Eric Ramsey arrived, Cameron Knowles

1117
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 12: was on the bench. Cameron Knowles was the head coach

1118
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 12: of the twos. Cameron Knowles was the video coordinator and

1119
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 12: the analysts before that. So this isn't a guy that's

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00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 12: unfamiliar with this club and how they would like to

1121
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 12: play and what these players look like. But for Minnesota United,

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00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 12: they want to be more aggressive, they want to be

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Speaker 12: the protagonist. They are playing to win, not to not lose.

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Speaker 12: And I think last year credit to Eric Ramsey and

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Speaker 12: what he did with this group, getting the most points

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00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 12: in club history, most goals in club history. Looking good

1127
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 12: in a lot of ways, but it is hard to

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Speaker 12: defend for ninety minutes in thirty four straight games. So

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Speaker 12: this is a team that wants to be a little

1130
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 12: bit more dynamic going forward, and they're going to use

1131
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 12: players like Thomas Chonkolife, who's new but to partner up

1132
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 12: with Joaquin Pereira and kind of finding some chemistry there.

1133
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 12: Treanti's kind of burst out of the scene. He's one

1134
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 12: of the midfielders. You still have your steady veterans and

1135
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 12: Will Trapp and Michael Boxel, and then you know players

1136
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 12: like Morris Duggan who's a center back, a young center

1137
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 12: back and playing a long box all this year but

1138
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 12: got a goal in the last game. And Telvin u

1139
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 12: Boa another goal scorer who needs to find a way

1140
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 12: to score, much like Kevin Denke. A ton of expectation

1141
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 12: maybe didn't have the year he won and two last

1142
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 12: year in Telvin yu Boa. And he also got a

1143
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 12: goal last week against Austin and it came away with

1144
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 12: a two two draw on the road. So a lot

1145
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 12: of good exciting things. I just think you're going to

1146
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 12: see more of having the ball, less of just the

1147
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 12: sitting here in your defensive half of the field and

1148
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 12: being more aggressive and on the front foot in that

1149
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 12: final third, trying to win the ball deeper in the

1150
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 12: opponent's half so then when you win it, you're closer

1151
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 12: to goal.

1152
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 2: We'll be watching tomorrow at four to thirty see Cincinnati's

1153
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: first MLS road match against Minnesota again on Apple TV

1154
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: for free. Kindrick, thanks so much.

1155
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 4: Well, just hope they.

1156
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,479
Speaker 12: Don't bring out the orange ball tomorrow. That means there's

1157
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 12: no snow, so no orange ball is a good thing.

1158
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 12: Cold temperatures, yes, orange ball. No, let's hope for that.

1159
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just someone who hates the cold weather. I uh,

1160
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: but it'd be nice and warm when I watch on

1161
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: TV tomorrow. Can you? Thanks so much?

1162
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 14: Thanks for having me.

1163
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 11: I appreciate it.

1164
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: You got it. I appreciate it. Four thirty tomorrow, Apple TV.

1165
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: Here it's going to be like highest sixty two degrees.

1166
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: Sign me up for that. It's twenty nine minutes after

1167
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: four o'clock at Moegger on Twitter, So we're just getting

1168
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: into mock draft season. We have on a guy who's

1169
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: from Cincinnati who has a great website that kind of

1170
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: in a way they they do the mock draft scouring

1171
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: for you. We'll make all of this make sense when

1172
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: we come back on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 8: Station, Cincinnati's espneteen thirty To traffic from.

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01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 3: The UC Health Traffic Center at uce Health. They never

1175
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: miss a beat. Your heart shouldn't either. If you have

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Speaker 3: signs of a cardiac rhythm disorder, don't wait to be seen.

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Speaker 3: Schedule online at ucehealth dot com. Northbound four seventy one,

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Speaker 3: the off ramp to southbound seventy one is blocked off.

1179
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: That is a truck lost part of its load on

1180
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: that ramp. Eastbound two seventy five still an accident on

1181
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Speaker 3: the left shoulder between Loveland Madeira and Ward's Corner Road

1182
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 3: and Kellogg accident between Anchorage and Wilmer Avenue. I met

1183
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Speaker 3: Ezelic with traffic.

1184
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 6: This report is in ten minutes.

1185
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: I won't make you wait that long. This is ESPN

1186
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty on Moleger. So it's now draft season. The

1187
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: combine starts draft season, and obviously you know free agency

1188
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: here we hope is going to be a big deal.

1189
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 2: I'd be stunned if it's not. But we're starting to

1190
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: form opinions about prospects and we've done the whole arm

1191
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: length thing, and folks are starting to pour through mock drafts.

1192
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm excited to do this. So Grinding themocks dot com

1193
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: is a website and I'll put this and I think

1194
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: the most simple way possible, and its founder is going

1195
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: to join us here and he can correct me. But

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01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: what I like about Grinding the mox is they kind

1197
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: of look at all the mock drafts so I don't

1198
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: have to because I'm lazy, and there are so many

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Speaker 2: of them, and so what they do is they kind

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01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: of help set, for lack of a better way of

1201
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: putting it, expectations for how the draft is going to

1202
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: unfold based on a lot of things. But all the good,

1203
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 2: reputable mock drafts are part of their data collection and

1204
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: kind of what they use to help set those expectations.

1205
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: I'm now just like throwing out their word salad. So

1206
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 2: let's bring on Benjamin Robinson, who's the Cincinnati guy and

1207
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 2: is with he runs grinding themox dot com kind enough

1208
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: to join us here at the end of the week.

1209
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 2: It's Austin. Have you Benjamin? How are you doing?

1210
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 3: Great?

1211
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Speaker 10: Mo?

1212
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me on.

1213
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Appreciate you doing this. Did I kind of

1214
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: nail it? Or did I screw up? And talking about

1215
01:02:58,600 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: grinding the box and what it does?

1216
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 13: He did pretty good overall. You know, what I'm doing

1217
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 13: with grunting the MOX is trying to make draft fans

1218
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 13: smarter and more evidence based in their assessments of players.

1219
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1220
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Speaker 13: It comes from uh, you know, me listening to you know,

1221
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 13: draft broadcasts and saying, what the hell does mel Kiper

1222
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 13: even know?

1223
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 7: Does he?

1224
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 13: Does he ever want a draft strap and saying instead of,

1225
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 13: you know, asking what is Todd McShane know Has he

1226
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 13: ever wanted a draft strap? Collecting data from a lot

1227
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 13: of different sources and using the wisdom of crowds to

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Speaker 13: come up with what I call expected draft position, which

1229
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 13: gives us a better insight into where we think players

1230
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 13: will actually go in the draft.

1231
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: How much does expected draft position change from this time

1232
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: a year to two months from now.

1233
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Speaker 7: It's gonna change a lot.

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Speaker 13: Right now, As you said before, you know, we're we're

1235
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 13: still living in a pre free agency world, and so

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01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 13: that's going to change some things. We're just now getting

1237
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 13: this combined data which is also going to shake up

1238
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 13: things a little bit, but also to get closer to

1239
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 13: the draft, that's when the best quality mock drafts come out.

1240
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 13: So in my data right now, we're ranking mock drafts,

1241
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 13: you know, not super highly. We're about you know, two

1242
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 13: months from the draft right now, so you know, when

1243
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 13: we get to the draft, we're going to be waiting

1244
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 13: those mock drafts a lot higher. And also making sure

1245
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 13: that we were looking at who makes those mock drafts

1246
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 13: and giving credit to the Dane Bruglers of the world

1247
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 13: and not to the Benjamin Robinson's of the world. Like

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01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 13: when I do my mock draft, I assess my mock

1249
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 13: draft in the same way that I assess Dames and

1250
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 13: make sure that I rate his mock draft appropriately and

1251
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 13: then push down my opinion.

1252
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: Are there some themes as they relate specifically to the

1253
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 2: Bengals that are starting to emerge that we acknowledge still

1254
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: may change based on a lot of different things over

1255
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: the next seven, eight nine weeks.

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Speaker 13: Definitely, so on grounding themock dot Com and my team

1257
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 13: chart section, I have charts and what I call weighted

1258
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 13: mock draft shares. So that's taking that same concept that

1259
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 13: not all mock drafts are created equal, taking those weights

1260
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 13: that were up, you know, weighing up mock drafts that

1261
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 13: were made closer to the draft, and weighing up mock

1262
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 13: drafts that are made by experts. And eighty five percent

1263
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 13: of the mock drafts that have been published so far

1264
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 13: for the Round one for the Bengals have them targeting

1265
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 13: some type of defensive player, whether that's you know, safety

1266
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 13: Caleb Downs from Ohio State, who's number number one, you know,

1267
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 13: the defensive tackle Peter Woods from Clemson, or you know

1268
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 13: your flavor of edge rusher like Auburn's Keldric Fock, Texas

1269
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 13: texts David Bailey, or Miami's Caleb Downs. So you know, defense,

1270
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Speaker 13: as everyone in town knows, has been a theme the

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01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 13: last two years and continues to be a theme. The

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 13: beatings will continue and Phil Morale improves.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Caleb Downs, right, and there's a great argument

1274
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: about positional value versus you know, I mean some have

1275
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,479
Speaker 2: him as a top three player in the draft, which

1276
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 2: if he plays another position, he's gone well before the

1277
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: Bengals are on the But he does play safety, it's

1278
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: not regarded as quote a premium position. How often have

1279
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 2: you seen him going so early that as the Bengals

1280
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: are getting closer to being on the podium with the

1281
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: tenth pick, he's it's not even something they even have

1282
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: a chance to think about.

1283
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Speaker 13: So right now, in my data, he's the seventh overall

1284
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 13: ranked player, and so obviously we know the Bengals are

1285
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 13: picking it ten. So there's some upward pressure on his

1286
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 13: rankings and my data, and that comes from some other

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Speaker 13: teams that are probably going to be really interested in

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Speaker 13: his services, you know, in terms of the top teams

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Speaker 13: that Caleb'm sorry that Caleb Downs is mocked to. The

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Speaker 13: Bengals are number one, but like I said, it doesn't

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Speaker 13: matter if they're ranked number one if a team selects

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Speaker 13: him before them.

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Speaker 7: And so you know, you're seeing teams like.

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Speaker 13: The Commanders and the Giants where there's a lot of

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Speaker 13: interest in him, and obviously you know when they picked

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Speaker 13: before the Bengals, and so there's a decent chance. Right now,

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Speaker 13: in my day, I'd say it's about a two thirds

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Speaker 13: chance that he's uh, that he's even that he's.

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Speaker 7: Gone by that time. So uh, you can wish, doesn't

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Speaker 7: mean it's going to happen.

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Speaker 13: And so that's why you want to be showing people

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Speaker 13: the data to say, hey, you know, when we're there

1303
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 13: on the clock, they may not even have that choice.

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Speaker 13: Here are some other options about players that can really

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Speaker 13: help the Bengals next year on defense, or maybe they'd

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Speaker 13: go Google offense. You know, I think they still could

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Speaker 13: use another offensive lineman to round out that group.

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Speaker 2: Check out grinding themox dot com. Benjamin Robinson is with us.

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01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: Has there been a wild change based on knowing specifically

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Speaker 2: for Ruben Bain, knowing specifically how long his arms are?

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Speaker 13: So right now, my site still shows data from before

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Speaker 13: the combine, and I do that on purpose. I think

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Speaker 13: it's really important to have that sort of set expectation

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Speaker 13: of what we thought about a player before the combine

1315
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 13: and then what we thought about after the combine. So

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Speaker 13: I won't update the site with new data for about

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Speaker 13: a week or so. But in my current pre combine data,

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Speaker 13: he has about an average expected draft position of five

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Speaker 13: and a half, which pushed him as my third ranked player. So,

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Speaker 13: needless to say, people who watch the tape know that

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Speaker 13: he has these physical limitations.

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Speaker 2: People have talked.

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Speaker 7: About this for a while.

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Speaker 13: There were some rumblings that some teams didn't even view

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Speaker 13: him but as a pure edge rusher, despite that's where

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01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 13: he played and had a ton of success at Miami.

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Speaker 13: So there was even some rumblings that some teams thought

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Speaker 13: of him more as a guy who was play inside,

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Speaker 13: who you know, wouldn't have to, who could kind of

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Speaker 13: go into with his power and really make an impact

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Speaker 13: on the interior. I think he's probably gonna be doing

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Speaker 13: a little bit of both, and so the moment that

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Speaker 13: people start viewing at him as a sort of more

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Speaker 13: of like a hybrid player and less of a pure

1335
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Speaker 13: edge rusher, you might be able to see what teams

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Speaker 13: might be might be wanting to.

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Speaker 7: Do with Reuben Bain.

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Speaker 13: But he is so powerful, so he's less like a

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Speaker 13: overall speed rusher and more of a power rusher, which

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Speaker 13: when you look at edg rushers in the NFL, on

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Speaker 13: how a lot of them win the good ones? Really,

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Speaker 13: you actually do win a lot more with power than

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Speaker 13: just with speed, and I think David Bailey, the ed

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Speaker 13: ruser from Texas Tech, who is ranked fourth overall on

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Speaker 13: my data, No, Bengals would probably also love to have.

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Speaker 13: He's more of that traditional kind of win with speed

1347
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Speaker 13: rether than that kind of power rusher that you see

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Speaker 13: in Bain.

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Speaker 2: We're obviously very early in the process, but from a

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Speaker 2: Bengals perspective, specifically, what are we learning about some of

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: the expectations for them Day two and three?

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Speaker 13: For yeah, Day two and three is a little bit

1353
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Speaker 13: of a different story. When we start looking into the

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Speaker 13: day the second round picks for the Bengals, you still

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Speaker 13: see ed rusher as a team. So you know, when

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Speaker 13: I look at you know, the top edresser that Bengals

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Speaker 13: are being mocked in the second round because you know,

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Speaker 13: I collect thousands of mock drafts, and some of those

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Speaker 13: mock drafts go much further than this first rounds. You've

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Speaker 13: seen somebody show up like Illinois ed rusher Gabe Jacks.

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Speaker 13: So he had a really great Senior Bowl. If the

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Speaker 13: Bengals decided to go, you know, let's say they wanted

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Speaker 13: to go live actor or safety or offensive lineman like

1364
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Speaker 13: I said, or maybe even cornerback, which is a position

1365
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 13: that they've been mocked pretty.

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Speaker 7: Frequently as well, they could go ed rusher.

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Speaker 13: The second round with a guy like Gabe Jackets, and

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Speaker 13: if they decide, you know, and this.

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Speaker 7: Is what these decisions are like. The questions you have

1370
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Speaker 7: to decide is you know, when we.

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Speaker 13: Go for a player in the first round at one position,

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Speaker 13: what does that position look like in the next round.

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Speaker 7: And you see the Bengals do this kind of stuff

1374
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Speaker 7: all the time. Teams have to deal with this all

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Speaker 7: the time. And I go back to that.

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Speaker 13: Jamar Chase pine Seul decision, and so teams are going

1377
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 13: to look at, okay, we're interested in this position. Well,

1378
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 13: when we're picking again in the next round, what does

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Speaker 13: that position look like? So you know, if they decide

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Speaker 13: to go ed rusher in the in the second round

1381
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Speaker 13: with a Gabe Jackets, then in the first round they

1382
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 13: could do something different.

1383
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 7: And so similarly, you see a player.

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Speaker 13: Like USC safety Kamari Ramsey show up as a guy

1385
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 13: who could be of interest to the Bengals if they

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Speaker 13: decided to go safety in the second round given their

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Speaker 13: need at safety.

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Speaker 7: So those are a couple of names. When I see

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Speaker 7: you know ed sure and safety.

1390
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 13: Show up so much in first round mocks that if

1391
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Speaker 13: they're going a different direction, Bengals fans might want to

1392
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 13: start getting used to some of those names as alternatives.

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01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: Since you've been doing this, where has been the the

1394
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: widest difference between where a player was expected to be

1395
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: drafted and ultimately where he was selected.

1396
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,440
Speaker 7: Oh, it's trade door, Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I knew that.

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01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 7: Oh yeah last year.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so last year, you know, I my data, my

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Speaker 13: public data, you know, was in line with what a

1401
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 13: lot of people were saying about Shadoor, which was, you

1402
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 13: know that they thought that he would be going to

1403
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 13: Pittsburgh and with their pick and the you know, the

1404
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 13: thing was like twenty third or something in the first round,

1405
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 13: and he didn't go there, and you know, he fell

1406
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 13: and he fell and he fell and he fell, and

1407
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 13: even the most advanced models, you know. So I was

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01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 13: just in Indianapolis for the combine and I was talking

1409
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 13: to you know, a team and I asked him, you know,

1410
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 13: I was talking about my data and my insights and

1411
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 13: where they had Shador and they said, you know, there

1412
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 13: was only so many times we could tell our you know,

1413
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 13: the general manager, that the probability was zero that he

1414
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 13: was supposed to be here, so you know, he was

1415
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 13: the biggest faller in recent memory. Before that, it was

1416
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 13: Malik Willis the year that there was only one quarterback

1417
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 13: dracket in the first round with the Steelers, you know,

1418
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 13: taking Kenny Pickett and Malik Willis. Who's now you know,

1419
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 13: the bell of the ball of free agent quarterbacks shows that,

1420
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 13: you know, the life in the NFL is long.

1421
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,480
Speaker 7: But yeah, Shador was. It was really unexpected.

1422
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 13: You know, even my more advanced numbers had him in

1423
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 13: the like late.

1424
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 7: First, early second round, so I was surprised. I was

1425
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 7: surprised that he was He was still there in the

1426
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 7: fifth round. At a certain point, I thought.

1427
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 13: Maybe the Bengals might want to take a gander on that,

1428
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 13: but it seemed like it probably would have been more

1429
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 13: trouble than it was worth, given the same sort of

1430
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 13: rumors about him in Baltimore, that Baltimore was interested in

1431
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 13: inflecting him, and he told them that he wouldn't like

1432
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 13: that because he wanted to be in a place where

1433
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 13: he could play. And you know, he made a Pro Bowl,

1434
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 13: so you know what else we have to say.

1435
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: That's right, he did a Pro Bowl. Yes, so did

1436
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco. So do which one with that? Here's my

1437
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 2: request the week of the draft, can I bring you

1438
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: back so we can kind of see where things are

1439
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: at that point relative to where they are right now

1440
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: and maybe set some expectations for draft weekend.

1441
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 7: Definitely.

1442
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 13: Yeah, and the data will be a lot more rich

1443
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 13: and interesting and yeah, the storylines evolve, and that's one.

1444
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 7: Of the reasons why I love doing this. It's all

1445
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 7: about the stories and the journeys of these prospects. They

1446
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 7: go from college to pro and the data does a

1447
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 7: really good job of telling that story.

1448
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: That's Ben Johnson, the website grinding themox dot com on

1449
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 2: Twitter at grinding mox. Awesome conversation. Man, We'll do it

1450
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: again as we get closer to the draft. I really

1451
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: do appreciate the time.

1452
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, no problem, Thank you, mom.

1453
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: You got it. I appreciate it. Cincinnati native Bengals fan

1454
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, grinding themox dot com. I became familiar with

1455
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: his website reading a piece in The Ringer last year

1456
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 2: right after the Shador Sanders thing went down the way

1457
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: it did, and they used him to sort of illustrate like,

1458
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: here's where everybody thought that guy was going to go.

1459
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: Look at the difference between where he was expected to

1460
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 2: be taken and ultimately where he was taken all right,

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Speaker 2: Reds are playing the Angels right now in goodyear. They

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Speaker 2: have played six and a half. LA leads that ball

1466
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Speaker 2: game four to two. Ret Louder started for Cincinnati pitchwell

1467
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: when three innings, did not give up a hit walk

1468
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: The guys struck out three. Julian Agiar gave up three

1469
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: runs and his two innings of work offensively. The highlights

1470
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 2: include a good day for jj Blade two hits, he

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Speaker 2: has scored a run, Jose Travino has driven in a run,

1472
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Speaker 2: he has two hits, and Reese Hines has a triple

1473
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 2: again for two Angels, Reds getting set to bat in

1474
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: the bottom of the seventh inning. Those games are always

1475
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 2: weird because both teams were red college basketball. Tonight. Miami

1476
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: puts its undefeated record on the line on the road tonight,

1477
01:14:56,160 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 2: taking on Western Michigan. Miami won. The first matchup game

1478
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 2: was at Mallett Hall, won by eleven points. Tip Off

1479
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: is early tonight at six pm. Also tonight, Dayton's at

1480
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: George Washington, the Flyers looking for a fifth consecutive win.

1481
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: Tomorrow's Xavier hooks up with Georgetown, a pair of teams

1482
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: that are each five and twelve in Biggies Play. Musketeers

1483
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 2: won the first matchup. Tomorrow's tip off is at one thirty.

1484
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 2: XU trying to break a three game losing streak at

1485
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 2: Cooley's team trying to break a five game losing streak.

1486
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: You see hooks up with Oklahoma State tomorrow. That game

1487
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,480
Speaker 2: tips off at two pm on seven hundred WLW. The

1488
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: Cowboys are seventeen and eight five and ten in Big

1489
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 2: Twelve Play. Kentucky battles Vanderbilt. Commodores whipped Kentucky in the

1490
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 2: first game by twenty five. Tomorrow's game tips off at

1491
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: two o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty. Also in the area,

1492
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: Louisville's at Clemson at two o'clock. NKU plays its final

1493
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 2: regular season game tomorrow against Wright State. That game at

1494
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: NKU tips off at seven pm. I rolled through the

1495
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 2: scenarios before, but just in case you didn't jot all

1496
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: this down, the Norse can still get a home game

1497
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 2: in the very confusing Horizon League Tournament. The Norse need

1498
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 2: to win tomorrow and get a Detroit Mercy loss and

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Speaker 2: get a Purdue Fort Wayne loss and get a green

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Speaker 2: Bay win. That I mentioned that a Green Bay win,

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01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 2: a Detroit Mercy loss, and a Perdue Fort Wayne loss.

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Speaker 2: That's what the end. They got to win tomorrow. Lots

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01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: of stuff has to happen. Hopefully it does. Sunday, Ohio

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01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: State takes on Perdue and Indiana battles Michigan State. Both

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01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes and the Hoosiers could badly use wins against

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: really good teams this weekend. FC Cincinnati and Minnesota tomorrow

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Speaker 2: at four point thirty. That game is on the Project

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Speaker 2: one hundred points seven and one oh six three. And

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01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,839
Speaker 2: the Cyclones played tonight on the road against Fort Wayne

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Speaker 2: and then home tomorrow for Kalamazoo Skyline Chile three way

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: Jersey Day, and then an afternoon game on Sunday against

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Speaker 2: Kalamazoo as well. Uh, there you go, there you go,

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Speaker 2: five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. Uh take

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Speaker 2: some phone calls. I guess you love it away from

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Speaker 2: five o'clock this is ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati Sports Station

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Speaker 2: This report is sponsored by the Tutor Dixon Pop five.

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Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Mogger, thanks for listening today.

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Speaker 2: Let's squeeze in a phone call, Mike. Go ahead, you

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01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 2: got like two and a half minutes. You're on ESPN

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01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 2: fifteenth thirty.

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01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 14: Oh that's a ton of time.

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 11: Thank you.

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 14: Hey, Uh is your perspective a competitor still there in

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01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 14: the studio.

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01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still he's still enjoying. I don't know if

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01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 2: he's enjoying himself, but he is still I'm sure he's

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01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: not learning anything, but he is still with us.

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01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 14: Well, young man, let me tell you one thing. I've

1539
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 14: been a loyal caller to this Man show Maleger and

1540
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 14: Taren Blant for many years, and I will tell you

1541
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 14: this much. They're both very professional at what they do.

1542
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 14: And I've been retired for years, so basically my life

1543
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,879
Speaker 14: is listening to sports talk shows all over the country.

1544
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 14: My all time favorite other than mo Is Jim Rome.

1545
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 14: Jim Rome is a classic and all to himself for

1546
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 14: a variety of reasons. But you will never find two

1547
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 14: better men, two better professionals, to more sincere gentlemen than

1548
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 14: Moegar and Taron Blant, So keep that hat up. They're

1549
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 14: both self made men and I admire them and I

1550
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 14: think they do a great job. So I just wanted to.

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01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 2: Say, that's very, very very kind of you, Mike. We

1552
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 2: are not deserving. I'm not deserving in that praised terran is,

1553
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 2: but that's very kind of you.

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01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 14: Nonetheless, Well, it's the truth, you know, the truth. The

1555
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 14: truth is. The truth is always easy, you know. It's

1556
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 14: just when you get into the other stuff it gets

1557
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 14: a little complicated.

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: I understand.

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Speaker 14: Let's up listen, I gotta tell you this stuff. Rome

1560
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 14: just beat the heck Earlier when you were having a

1561
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 14: guest on it wasn't really my cup of tea or whatever.

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01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 14: So I switched it from it over the roaming and

1563
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 14: Rome was just beaten down the bangles over those f

1564
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 14: he said. No, not only did they have an app

1565
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 14: last year on the diathetics and the nutrition and the

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01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 14: cafeteria and the families, he said, then they took it

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01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 14: to another level F minus. It was so funny.

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Speaker 5: I was.

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01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 14: I was. I had tears in my eyes. Did you

1570
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 14: know how that guy is? I was laughing so hard, bro,

1571
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 14: because it was just something for him to hammer on him.

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01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 14: Boy did he ever?

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01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I mean that's that stuff. I'm look you

1574
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: you you gotta be fair. So if you're gonna mention

1575
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 2: all the bad grades, you got to mention the stuff.

1576
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: They got high marks for me. But there is there

1577
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: is a repeated pattern of the Bengals not being able

1578
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: to do some of this stuff to the satisfaction of

1579
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: their players. And maybe as a fan that doesn't matter

1580
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: to you, but I you know, I talked about this

1581
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: at the top of the show. You can either decide

1582
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna do everything at the highest possible level, or

1583
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 2: we're not. And it appears that instill in many regards

1584
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 2: as it relates to things that their players care about.

1585
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: They have a reluctance or an inability to do absolutely

1586
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 2: everything at the highest possible level. Mike, I gotta run. Man,

1587
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: have a great weekend.

1588
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 14: Okay, thanks, MAE appreciate it.

1589
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 2: All right, All right, there you go. We'll dive deeper

1590
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 2: into this coming up after the five o'clock top of

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01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: the hour ESPN Sports Update. U five point three seven

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Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty is our phone number coming up

1593
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Speaker 2: on five o'clock on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station,

1594
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 2: texting roles you would recruit.

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Speaker 8: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Yes, said, I'm oweger. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks

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01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: so much for listening. It's uh, it's Friday at five

1599
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Speaker 2: oh four. You can't beat that, right, Hope your weekend

1600
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 2: is off to a great start. It's a really nice

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01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: looking Friday afternoon. There's lots of ground to cover between

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: now and six o'clock. Fun sports weekend, lots of college basketball.

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01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 2: Miami plays tonight, the RedHawks are one of the best

1604
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 2: stories in college basketball. We'll get to that coming up

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01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 2: here in just a bit. Can I just pull the

1606
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: curtain back again really quick? I am in the middle

1607
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: of typing out for the folks on Twitter what's coming

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01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: up this hour? And I was almost done. This is

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01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: great radio when I do this, but I don't want

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01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: to leave it undone. We got to get the folks

1611
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: on Twitter to listen on the iHeartRadio app. So hang

1612
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 2: on and doctor on the season of the hammet bone injury.

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01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: This is great radio. Listen colon ESPN fifteen thirty dot

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01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: com slash Listen, which will take you right to the iHeartRadio.

1615
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 2: There we go. We got that piece of business out

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01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 2: of the way, and now the sports talk radio presentation

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01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 2: can commence. The week that was for the Bengals at

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01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 2: the Combine coming up in just about thirty five minutes,

1619
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: and we'll chat with one of the experts from Ortho

1620
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,640
Speaker 2: Sinsey about the hammet bone injury, which has become a

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Speaker 2: little bit of an epidemic. I guess maybe that's not

1622
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: the right word. It's not like it's contagious contagious, but

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01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: there's a lot of baseball players with hammid bone injuries.

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01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: I'm also gonna ask about Lindsay Vaughn. We didn't talk

1625
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: a ton about the Olympics beyond hockey on this show,

1626
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 2: but her injury required for surgery, and I guess there

1627
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 2: was the possibility of amputation, which thankfully she avoided. And

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01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 2: so we'll get a medical expert's opinion on what she

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01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 2: went through. And so much more coming up in just

1630
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: a few minutes. I was talking about this before the

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01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 2: top of the hour. By the way, I'll let you

1632
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 2: know that the Reds are playing right now against the Angels.

1633
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: I got some mean feedback from somebody who says, why

1634
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 2: are you updating these Reds games that don't count. I

1635
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 2: don't know, because people want to know what's going on

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01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,560
Speaker 2: of those games, sports fans, Reds fans who happen to

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01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: be listening to the show. It's four to two Angels

1638
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: through eight. Highlight of the day, Red Louder's three innings

1639
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 2: of work hitless is struck out three. We're talking before

1640
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 2: the top of the hour, but the NFLPA report cards

1641
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: and like, we were making fun of the Steelers yesterday

1642
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,560
Speaker 2: because they came in dead last. Making fun of the

1643
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: Steelers for coming in dead last with all the report

1644
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,759
Speaker 2: cards isn't about the Bengals being great at everything. Clearly

1645
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 2: they're not. My point was something I said about a

1646
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: month ago that I think if you, if you kind

1647
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 2: of forget about like the Steelers brand and what that

1648
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 2: franchise has accomplished historically, if you listen to people who

1649
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 2: talk about the Steelers, cover the Steelers, who root for

1650
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,480
Speaker 2: the Steelers, there's actually more similarities between the two franchises

1651
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 2: than one might be willing to admit. And some of

1652
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: those similarities aren't that flattering. And they were illustrated by

1653
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: the fact that with the NFLPA report card there were

1654
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: complaints about facilities and the field and stuff like that,

1655
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: and some of the same stuff with the Bengals. Now,

1656
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 2: the Bengals got some really high marks, got some really

1657
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 2: high marks with that A minus for Zach Taylor got

1658
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 2: it really high marks with the locker room, and the

1659
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator and the offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher got an

1660
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: a minus. Strength coach has got an a defensive coordinator

1661
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: got a B plus. But what stands out, and let's

1662
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 2: be honest, these are how report cards work. I never

1663
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 2: failed a class in school, but I remember in the

1664
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 2: sixth grade, I got a D in English. Every other

1665
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 2: class a's or b's. What's the only grade My mom

1666
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 2: cared about the D. That's how it works. Later on

1667
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 2: in high school pretty much a C minus student. There

1668
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 2: were a's, but the C minus is in d's. Mom

1669
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: and dad cared about a lot more. So that's how

1670
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 2: report cards worked. So how they worked then, that's how

1671
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: they work now if kids actually still get report cards.

1672
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: Bengals got an F minus for treatment of families. They

1673
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: got an F minus for food and dining area. They

1674
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 2: got an F for nutritionists slash dietitian. Now these are

1675
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 2: grades based on player feedback and maybe like there are

1676
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 2: players who have an ax to grind with the nutritionist.

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01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's hard to get an F

1678
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,839
Speaker 2: minus if you have anybody who's like, actually, our families

1679
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 2: are treated great in the grand scheme of things. Your

1680
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: perspective may be, who cares about treatment of families? And

1681
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 2: that's not an unreasonable perspective. I think what we're talking

1682
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: about here is like amenities for kids daycare during games,

1683
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: perhaps like special concession areas for players families. There was

1684
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: a piece last year ESPN dot Com Right around the

1685
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 2: same time, Sarah Barshop was the writer, and she kind

1686
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: of pointed out some of the things that fall under

1687
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: the umbrella of treatment of families. Jesse Bates is quoted

1688
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: in the piece where he's like, man, when I was

1689
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 2: with the Bengals after games at home, I'd have to

1690
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 2: go like into the parking lot to go meet up

1691
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 2: with my family. And now at the Falcons in Atlanta

1692
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 2: when games end, there's like a special waiting area for families.

1693
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 2: And the Bengals in the story they acknowledge like this

1694
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: is something we want to be better at. We've got

1695
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: some plans, but apparently for this past season, players didn't

1696
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 2: feel like they did enough. We're talking about meeting places.

1697
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: We're talking about you know, family activities that some teams

1698
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 2: engage in and some don't. Like one team has family

1699
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 2: trigger treating for all the kids of the players and coaches,

1700
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 2: and maybe the Bengals don't do that stuff. I don't know.

1701
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,520
Speaker 2: Here's what I do know that there's value in striving

1702
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: to do everything at the highest possible level, at the

1703
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: highest possible I think in any business that should be

1704
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 2: the goal, do everything at the highest possible level. Now

1705
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 2: there could be things that restrict some businesses from doing that.

1706
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a budget, maybe it's personnel, but the goal

1707
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 2: should always be to do things at the highest possible level.

1708
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 2: And that goes for employees. It also goes for employers.

1709
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: I once did my radio show from outside an ice

1710
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 2: machine at the Super Bowl in Santa Monica. Did I

1711
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 2: feel like we did that at the highest possible level. No,

1712
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 2: That's why it was deeply frustrating, completely candid. Didn't feel

1713
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: like we did that at the highest possible level. So

1714
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: if you're an NFL team, do you do everything at

1715
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 2: the highest possible level? And it might not matter to

1716
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: you that a player has to, you know, go out

1717
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 2: in the parking lot or go somewhere that's not that

1718
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: convenient for him to meet up with his girlfriend or

1719
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 2: his kids or his parents after a game, And you might, well,

1720
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,839
Speaker 2: wait a minute. You know, my job doesn't offer daycare,

1721
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 2: My job doesn't offer amenities. My job we don't They

1722
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: don't leave even acknowledge our families. But you would feel

1723
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 2: different if your company's direct competitors did those things in

1724
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,640
Speaker 2: your company didn't like you would feel different if there

1725
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 2: were other media companies that were offering like you know

1726
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 2: these these incredible perks were like, there's an omelet station

1727
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 2: every Friday morning. I'd go, well, wait a minute, how

1728
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 2: come we're not doing that. I don't know why I

1729
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 2: came up with omelet station. Omelet sound amazing right now.

1730
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: I would do the same, and so would any one

1731
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: of my coworkers. So like, this stuff might sound like

1732
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 2: the complaints of rich, spoiled athletes, but I think every

1733
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: single one of us we kind of judge who were

1734
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 2: working for in our working environment around you know, our

1735
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 2: company's competitors. That's all these players are doing. By the way,

1736
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 2: there are other teams that rank poorly when it came

1737
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 2: to family treatment amenities stuff like that. So the question

1738
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 2: is you have a choice. You have a choice as

1739
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 2: a company. You have a choice if you run a

1740
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 2: major professional sports franchise. Are we going to do every

1741
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: single thing at the highest possible level, or are we

1742
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 2: going to do some of the things at the highest

1743
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 2: possible level. The Bengals have apparently chosen to not treat families,

1744
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 2: design a nutrition program, and have a foonded dining area

1745
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 2: that is at the highest possible level. That may have

1746
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 2: nothing to do with whether or not they win games.

1747
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 2: The Bengals could win the Super Bowl, and if they

1748
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 2: rank low in treatment of families and dietitian, no one's

1749
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,680
Speaker 2: going to care. But like all right, I believe and

1750
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 2: I think most would agree, that you have a better

1751
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:50,719
Speaker 2: chance of winning at the highest possible level, of having

1752
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 2: your team play at the highest possible level, if organizationally

1753
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 2: you do everything at the highest possible level. It's about

1754
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 2: setting a standard. And so like all right, it might

1755
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 2: not be a big deal to you that a football

1756
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: player isn't thrilled with the dining area at the facility

1757
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,799
Speaker 2: that he works at. By the way, it's worth mentioning

1758
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 2: locker room got a high grade. Training room, got a

1759
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 2: high grade. Weight room got a high grade, like really

1760
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 2: high grade. Weight room got an A minus. Trading room

1761
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 2: a minus. So there's some really good stuff there, really

1762
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: good stuff. But sure, man, if you want to do

1763
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 2: if you want to win at the absolute highest level,

1764
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: if you want to do everything that matters winning football

1765
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 2: games at the highest possible level, then I think, and

1766
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: I think anybody who runs a company would agree, Then

1767
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 2: we want to do everything at the highest possible level.

1768
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 2: We want the best possible people, we want the best

1769
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 2: possible facilities. We want the best possible stuff. We're gonna

1770
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,759
Speaker 2: set amazingly high standards everywhere, not just with a handful

1771
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 2: of things. That's what this is about to me. Some

1772
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 2: will use this to just wail away on the Bengals

1773
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 2: and look, these results. They were not supposed to be

1774
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 2: public sized, according to that one arbiter, But we all

1775
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 2: knew the results were going to be leaked in this

1776
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 2: particular regard. The Bengals have apparently chosen. We're not going

1777
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 2: to do some of this stuff, which ultimately may not

1778
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,680
Speaker 2: resonate with many of our fans. We're not going to

1779
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 2: do some of this stuff to the absolute maximum of

1780
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 2: our capabilities. We're not going to do this stuff at

1781
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 2: the highest possible level. At some point as an organization,

1782
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 2: I wonder if I ran one like do I do?

1783
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 2: I want to do everything to the best of my

1784
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 2: abilities at the highest possible level for the Bengals some

1785
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 2: of this stuff. The answer is no. Fourteen minutes after

1786
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 2: five o'clock, that's right. I brought up I brought up

1787
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl shows, which like the same thing, like

1788
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 2: there are folks whore like dude, you got a chance

1789
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: to do broadcast in the Super Bowl and I'm like, hell, yeah, man,

1790
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 2: it was a dream come true. Not sure it was

1791
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 2: executed at the just absolute peak. And you know, we've

1792
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 2: learned lessons from it. Hopefully we get another crack at it,

1793
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: We'll do better. That's it. U five point three seven,

1794
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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty is our phone at Moeger on Twitter. Thanks

1795
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1797
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Speaker 2: It's the season of the Hammett bone in baseball, which

1798
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:17,600
Speaker 2: we're going to spend some time with one of the

1799
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 2: experts from Ortho Sincy on in just a few minutes.

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01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 2: But first, yes, yes, the Bearcats have a chance. And

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01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 2: the impressive thing about Miami to me coming up on

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01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,480
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 1: For more information about content.

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Speaker 2: With Tony and Austin. Looking at Joel and bracketology, I

1811
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 2: will admit to you that when it comes to my bracketology,

1812
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 2: Joe Lonardi is not the first place I go to.

1813
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 2: I have an extraordinary amount of respect for him because

1814
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 2: I think a few people have done as much as

1815
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 2: he has over the last twenty years and just you know,

1816
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 2: promoting something that a lot of his love, which is

1817
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 2: trying to figure out who's going to make the NCAA tournament.

1818
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 2: He's made a ton of money off of it. He's

1819
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 2: been a guest on this show. His book about bracketology

1820
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 2: is terrific. Just year in and year out, it feels

1821
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 2: like there are people who are just better at predicting

1822
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 2: who's going to make the tournament and who's going to

1823
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 2: get which seed. But you know, he is the most

1824
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 2: well known guy. He lists his latest bracket projection. He

1825
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 2: has Cincinnati not in it. That would be stunning. He

1826
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 2: has Cincinnati not among the next four out. I'm sorry,

1827
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 2: first four out. He has Cincinnati seventy sixth, which there

1828
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 2: you go. There's the argument for expanding the tournament. Can

1829
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 2: they do it right now? And Now, again, this is

1830
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 2: one man's opinion. It's one man's pretty educated opinion. So

1831
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 2: I feel two different things about this. One is where

1832
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 2: we were three weeks ago, we weren't even entertaining the possibility.

1833
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 2: Now they have an extraordinary amount of work to do.

1834
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:16,080
Speaker 2: But I'm also reading bubble watch at the Athletic dot Com.

1835
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 2: There's a blurb on Cincinnati like it feels like the

1836
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:22,760
Speaker 2: door is open, not wide open, maybe maybe not even

1837
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 2: like slightly a jar, perhaps slightly cracked. Just this very much.

1838
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 2: They really didn't get docked for losing to Texas Tech,

1839
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 2: but it was a huge missed opportunity. They must win tomorrow.

1840
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,040
Speaker 2: That's a Q three game, so you're not really going

1841
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,840
Speaker 2: to get quote credit for it, but you're gonna be

1842
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 2: dinged heavily if you lose it. There's a chance. There's

1843
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 2: a chance. Now from a pure basketball perspective, what you're

1844
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 2: asking this team to do, which they haven't done all

1845
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 2: season long, is win at minimum five consecutive games minimument.

1846
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: They haven't had a five game winning streak this season.

1847
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 2: The most recent winning streak they had, which was four games,

1848
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 2: included wins over Kansas State, which has since fired its

1849
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 2: coach and Utah. Kansas State and Utah have a combined

1850
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 2: four conference wins. Oklahoma State is better than both of

1851
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 2: those teams. Oklahoma State is not great by any stretch

1852
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 2: five to ten in the conference, but I feel like

1853
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 2: they're better than both those teams now. Just as a

1854
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 2: quick aside for what it's worth, Parsifala, who averages a

1855
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,839
Speaker 2: fourteen a game for Oklahoma State, suffered a knee injury

1856
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 2: in their last game against West Virginian, so he has

1857
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 2: done for the season. He has been a double figure

1858
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,560
Speaker 2: scorer in college basketball for three years now. That is

1859
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 2: a big loss for them. A guy who shoots really

1860
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 2: well from the field, high percentage of shots. That's a

1861
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 2: big loss for Oklahoma State. Still feel like better than

1862
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 2: both k State and Utah. Cincinnati is going to have

1863
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 2: to beat Oklahoma State. They're also going to have to

1864
01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 2: beat a good BYU team even without Ritchie Saunder formidable

1865
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 2: and that's putting it lightly. And then go to TCU

1866
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 2: and TCU as a team that is scratching and clawing

1867
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 2: its way into the tournament, that game is on the road,

1868
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 2: Plus when minimum two games in Kansas City, I feel

1869
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 2: like the highest seed the Bearcats could possibly get realistically,

1870
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 2: and I say this not emphatically, not with any certainty,

1871
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 2: but I think it's a seventh seed. Like it from

1872
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 2: a basketball perspective, all of their well established flaws, all

1873
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 2: of their well established assets, and some of the things

1874
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 2: they've done very very well recently all being taken into consideration.

1875
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 2: For this team to make the tournament. Number one, they're

1876
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 2: gonna have to go on a long winning streak. Their

1877
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,719
Speaker 2: longest winning streak this year is four games, done it twice.

1878
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to be far more consistent on the

1879
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 2: offensive end of the floor than they have been, and

1880
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 2: you can't let your guard down the way they did

1881
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 2: against Utah. They did win that game, but played poorly,

1882
01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 2: and they have to rebound better than they did against

1883
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: Texas Tech. So purely from a basketball perspective, what we're

1884
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: hoping they do is significant. Then, like you have to

1885
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 2: leap frog teams, and you got to leap frog teams

1886
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 2: that are going to get wins. So you're asking a

1887
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 2: lot here, man, And that's the other part of this.

1888
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 2: It's like all right on one end, maybe you're in

1889
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 2: the conversation if you win four or not four, five

1890
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 2: or six in a row. But like teams have to

1891
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 2: play themselves off the bubble too, How many teams are

1892
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,679
Speaker 2: going to do that when you have to leap frog

1893
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 2: a bunch. But three weeks ago we weren't talking about this.

1894
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 2: Now we are and it will continue if they can

1895
01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 2: get a win tomorrow. Miami plays tonight, in fact, in

1896
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 2: about thirty five minutes against Western Michigan. This is the

1897
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 2: thing that has stood out to me over the last

1898
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 2: week or so about the RedHawks. They have gotten and

1899
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 2: deserved a ton of attention, and they're one of the

1900
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 2: best stories in college basketball. They're one of the most

1901
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 2: interesting stories in college basketball because of the argument about

1902
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 2: whether or not they should make the tournament if they

1903
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 2: lose a game, specifically, if they lose a game in

1904
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,799
Speaker 2: the MAC Tournament, but they still have three regular season

1905
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 2: games to go. I think none of us would be

1906
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 2: surprised if they lost one in the regular season and

1907
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 2: then didn't win the MAC. If they were on the

1908
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 2: outside losing in I would still believe there's a case

1909
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 2: they should get in, which means they're taking the floor

1910
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: every night with a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure,

1911
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 2: a lot of eyeballs, a lot of attention, and yet

1912
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 2: when you watch them play, and I get it, finding

1913
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,679
Speaker 2: Miami games is a little bit more difficult than finding

1914
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 2: a UC or a Xavier gamer, a Kentucky gamer, an

1915
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 2: Ohio State game. But when you watch them, they don't

1916
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,560
Speaker 2: look burdened. I remember in twenty twenty one, the undefeated

1917
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 2: UC football team, they played a game against Tulsa on

1918
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Speaker 2: the day that College Game Day was at Nippert Stadium,

1919
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Speaker 2: and they won the game. They didn't win it decisively,

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Speaker 2: if I remember, they won the game by a touchdown

1921
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 2: I think like maybe twenty seven to twenty. And after

1922
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 2: the game, I remember hearing Luke Fickle talk about the

1923
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 2: fact that he had to tell his players it was

1924
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 2: okay to be happy that they won, it was okay

1925
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 2: to celebrate a victory. They won that game twenty eight

1926
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Speaker 2: to twenty to improve to nine to zero, and there

1927
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 2: was something as that season went on where you kind

1928
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 2: of felt like at times they were burdened by having

1929
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 2: to be perfect style points, having to blow everybody out.

1930
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Speaker 2: And they obviously finished the deal, got to the College

1931
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Speaker 2: Football Playoff, went thirteen and zero, won the American Athletic

1932
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 2: Conference title, but there were times that year where you

1933
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 2: kind of felt like they were burdened by the pressure

1934
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Speaker 2: of having to be perfect. They overcame it. Miami doesn't

1935
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: look like a team. I've watched Travis Steele talk, I've

1936
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 2: seen him on shows, we've had him on ours. He

1937
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 2: looks sounds like somebody who's having a blast coaching this team.

1938
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 2: And maybe he's doing that publicly to kind of set

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01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 2: a tone for his team. But they're playing with the

1940
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Speaker 2: pressure of having to be perfect. Granted, they still may

1941
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 2: make the tournament if they're not, but it's going to

1942
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 2: open up the conversation entirely if they're not. And by

1943
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 2: the way, they haven't closed out the MAC title yet.

1944
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 2: Akron's still just one game behind. Obviously, Miami wins the

1945
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 2: tiebreaker because they won the head to head. But what's

1946
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:29,639
Speaker 2: so impressive to me watching them play, listening to Travis

1947
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 2: steel talk, watching that program get attention. They basically have

1948
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 2: to be perfect. They're being asked to be perfect, and

1949
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: yet they don't look like or feel like they're burdened

1950
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Speaker 2: by the need to achieve perfection. If Arizona was undefeated

1951
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 2: right now, if Houston was undefeated right now, heck, if

1952
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 2: you see r Xavier were undefeated right now, it would

1953
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 2: be a story. But a loss wouldn't kill their season.

1954
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 2: A loss wouldn't make people go, eh, you know what.

1955
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 2: Maybe not a tournament team. That's a lot of pressure

1956
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 2: to play with. That's a lot of pressure to potentially

1957
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 2: be burdened by having to be perfect Miami thus far,

1958
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 2: maybe it changes tonight, doesn't seem burned. Twenty eight minutes

1959
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 2: after five o'clock, we'll talk Hammett bone injuries and how

1960
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 2: Olympia and Lindsay Vaughn nearly lost her leg Next to

1961
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen.

1962
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1964
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1965
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1966
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1967
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1972
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Speaker 2: final in goodyear. Red's lost to the Los Angeles Angels

1973
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Speaker 2: of Anaheim four to three. Reht Louder when three innings

1974
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 2: pitched very well, Today's struck out three, did not, did

1975
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Speaker 2: not give up a hit. He also struck out Jamer Candelario.

1976
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 2: That's right, Jamer Candelario, Remember that, dude. One of the

1977
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 2: worst free agent signings in Red's history. He's with the

1978
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 2: Angels over three two punchouts, kind of like he was

1979
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 2: with the Reds. Julian Agiar gave up three runs in

1980
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 2: his two winnings of work. Ultimately that's what cost him

1981
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 2: the game. Blade had two hits, Travino had a couple

1982
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 2: of hits and drove in a run. Blake Dunn hit

1983
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 2: his first home run of the spring. Good for him.

1984
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 2: Probably ran around the bases really fast. Cincinnati takes on

1985
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers tomorrow. College hoops tonight beforementioned Miami RedHawks

1986
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,759
Speaker 2: inaction in twenty five minutes on the road against Western Michigan.

1987
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 2: Dayton takes on George Washington in Washington Tomorrow. Xavier host

1988
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 2: Georgetown at one thirty. That game is on fifty five.

1989
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 2: Krc UC takes on Oklahoma State two. That game is

1990
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 2: on seven hundred Wow Kentucky and Vanderbilt on ESPN fifteen

1991
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,639
Speaker 2: thirty tomorrow. That is going to be at two o'clock

1992
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 2: NKU and Wright State tomorrow. NKU hosts still have a

1993
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 2: chance to get a home game in the Horizon League

1994
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 2: Tournament seven pm as your tip off on ESPN fifteen

1995
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Speaker 2: thirty Senior Night. Last regular season game four, Darren Horn's

1996
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Speaker 2: team Sunday, Ohio State battles Purdue Indiana takes on Michigan

1997
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati at Minnesota tomorrow. That game is on the

1998
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Speaker 2: Project one hundred point seven and one oh sixty three

1999
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Speaker 2: cycle on Skate Tonight at Fort Wayne Tomorrow at home

2000
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Speaker 2: for Kalamazoo. Sunday afternoon home for Kalamazoo as well. After

2001
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Speaker 2: a brief post football season pause, we're talking injuries as

2002
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Speaker 2: we do every week with one of the experts from

2003
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2004
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2005
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2006
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2007
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Speaker 2: Edgewood and Anderson. Learn more at Orthosinc dot com that's

2008
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Speaker 2: ortho ci ncy dot com. Doctor John Fridge from Orthosincy

2009
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 2: is with us. I want to ask you about what's

2010
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 2: become a problem for a lot of teams in baseball,

2011
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 2: that is the hammett bone injury. We have seen three

2012
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 2: high profile players, Corbyn, Carrol, Francisco Lindor and Jackson Holiday

2013
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 2: deal with this during the spring. So let's start with

2014
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 2: the basics. What is a hammett bone?

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Speaker 10: Keah, thanks for having me on the show. Though. The

2016
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 10: hammate is one of the carpal bones, which are the

2017
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 10: eight bones that make up your wrist. It's on kind

2018
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Speaker 10: of the pinky side of the wrist, right in the

2019
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 10: bottom part of your palm.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you can get hit by a pitch right because

2021
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 2: you know your your hand is exposed. But this is

2022
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 2: being called like a swing related type injury where you

2023
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 2: could literally hurt the injury and bust it by swinging

2024
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Speaker 2: a bat. How does that work exactly?

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Speaker 10: So, because the bone is prominent in the bottom part

2026
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Speaker 10: your palm, the people that are at risk are people

2027
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Speaker 10: in gripping sports. So in baseball, you're gripping the baseball

2028
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Speaker 10: bat and the bat the actual knob at the bottom

2029
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Speaker 10: there kind of pushes up against the bone, so that

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Speaker 10: when you're striking something like the ball, or if you're

2031
01:45:15,520 --> 01:45:18,799
Speaker 10: even checking the bat against the ground, it can deliver

2032
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 10: that force directly to this little bone that's in your

2033
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 10: palm and break it.

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Speaker 2: So how are these types of injuries typically treated?

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Speaker 10: I mean, in the average person, oftentimes will monitor it,

2036
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:35,639
Speaker 10: immobilize it, allow it to heal, but it doesn't always heal,

2037
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 10: and so oftentimes in professional athletes MLB players, they'll actually

2038
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,839
Speaker 10: get a surgery for this because it's a more predictable recovery.

2039
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,400
Speaker 10: The surgery for this, the little hook part that breaks off,

2040
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 10: is to actually open it up and remove that and

2041
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 10: then people can start the healing process and recovery.

2042
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 2: What is the typical recovery time, because we're talking about

2043
01:45:56,479 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 2: I think with all three of these guys at least

2044
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 2: the possibility that they could play if if not on

2045
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 2: opening day soon thereafter.

2046
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Speaker 10: Usually it's about six weeks. So the surgeries are pretty

2047
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 10: straightforward procedure to remove that broken piece, They get sewn up,

2048
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:14,440
Speaker 10: they heal up, and it's kind of a gradual process

2049
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 10: as they're able to tolerate with the pain. But the

2050
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 10: hope would be to have them return to play six

2051
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 10: weeks after sir.

2052
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,599
Speaker 2: When can they begin rehab or as it's often referred

2053
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 2: to as baseball related activities.

2054
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 10: Immediately and so obviously not going directly into play, but

2055
01:46:31,640 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 10: they're starting to rehab that Paul right away, having them

2056
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 10: doing some sports specific exercises and kind of progressing them

2057
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 10: based on their degree of pain and where they're at.

2058
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Lindsay Vaughan. So the

2059
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 2: Olympics are over, but her road to recovery from the

2060
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,640
Speaker 2: injury she suffered in Italy is frankly just kind of

2061
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 2: getting underway, and we could spend ten minutes just sort

2062
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 2: of detailing the saga that she's been involved in. But

2063
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 2: she suffered a tour ACL during a World Cup event

2064
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 2: in late January, and this was just prior to the Olympics.

2065
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 2: Then she goes and competes in the Olympics despite the

2066
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 2: ACL tear, and she suffers a catastrophic injury. The injury

2067
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,640
Speaker 2: doesn't appear to be related to the ACL tear, but

2068
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 2: it's been a complete fracture left leg, tibia, fibular head,

2069
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: tibio plateau. I'm reading some very clinical terms here, multiple surgeries,

2070
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Speaker 2: I've read that like she was in danger of maybe

2071
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 2: losing at least part of her leg. So there's so

2072
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,639
Speaker 2: much to unpack here. Let's start with this. How could

2073
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 2: you even begin to compete at this level when you

2074
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 2: have a tour ACL and you're a skier.

2075
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:45,360
Speaker 10: Absolutely, And so I would say the average person like me,

2076
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 10: for instance, if I tore my ACL, there's no way

2077
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 10: I would be even getting around very easily. That just

2078
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 10: speaks as to I mean, just how an incredible athlete

2079
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 10: Lindsay Bonn is. She is at such a level that

2080
01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 10: she tore ACL and you see these videos of her

2081
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:03,560
Speaker 10: days after doing box jumps and squats, and that just

2082
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 10: speaks to her level of conditioning. I mean, you can

2083
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 10: to some degree compensate for the instability of an ACL

2084
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 10: tire with better muscle strength and appropriate option. And I

2085
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 10: think just because she's such a high level athlete, she

2086
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 10: was able to compensate pretty quickly.

2087
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 2: So she she suffers the injury at the Olympics, and

2088
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 2: then before she can come back to the US, she

2089
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 2: goes through four surgeries. Roll through this for me, like,

2090
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 2: what are the different types of surgeries? Give me the

2091
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,920
Speaker 2: extent of this injury that she's been dealing with of.

2092
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 10: Course, so in competition out in Italy, we of course

2093
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 10: clip that gate and take this nasty fall and didn't

2094
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 10: know the full details of it at that time. It's

2095
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 10: now come to light she did sustain a very severe

2096
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 10: injury to her tibia, and so when she had that

2097
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 10: twisting moment of the leg, she essentially shattered the top

2098
01:48:57,080 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 10: part of her tibia into the knee joint. Talk about

2099
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 10: a tibial plateau fracture. That just means that she broke

2100
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 10: into the top part of her tibia bone as it

2101
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 10: enters the knee joint, and those are usually high energy,

2102
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 10: very complex injuries, meaning it's broken into multiple pieces and

2103
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 10: looking at her x rays, that's what happened to her.

2104
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 10: As a result of an injury like that, it's not

2105
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:22,919
Speaker 10: only damage to the bone, but to the soft tissues

2106
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:25,560
Speaker 10: as well, and so when you have that degree of

2107
01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 10: breakage of your bone, it bleeds into the area. Now,

2108
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:33,640
Speaker 10: your muscles surrounding the tibia are divided into different compartments.

2109
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 10: There's four different compartments of your lower leg, and they

2110
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 10: function to help serve the muscle to contract in those

2111
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 10: different compartments and perform the different functions that you're like, well,

2112
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 10: those compartments don't really allow much for swelling, and so

2113
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 10: when you break and they bleed into that compartment, they

2114
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 10: get overly tight and they can get so tight that

2115
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 10: it cuts off blood flow and oxygen too that compartment

2116
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:57,880
Speaker 10: and the muscle can die. And that's when you have

2117
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:01,120
Speaker 10: an emergency, which is what she had. And so when

2118
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 10: they talk about compartment syndrome, that's that bleeding and pressure

2119
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 10: into that compartment, and that's an orthopedic emergency. They need

2120
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:13,680
Speaker 10: surgery immediately to open the leg up, open up that

2121
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 10: compartment to give the muscle room to breathe so that

2122
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 10: it doesn't get cut off and die. And so it

2123
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 10: sounds like she was rushed into surgery to have fasciotomies,

2124
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 10: which is where we cut open those compartments to allow

2125
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 10: the muscles to breathe, and over time, additional surgeries to

2126
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:35,040
Speaker 10: continue kind of gradually closing those openings until she could

2127
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:36,000
Speaker 10: get her fracture there.

2128
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 2: At what point do they decide that she's okay to travel,

2129
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 2: because that's that's that's not a quick puddle jumper, that's

2130
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Speaker 2: a long flight, not at all.

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Speaker 10: And so I'm sure they had to arrange for specific

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Speaker 10: medical transport on a flight and low altitude because there's

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Speaker 10: some risk of blood clots. My guess is they got

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Speaker 10: her to a point where the fracture was stabilized with

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Speaker 10: an external fix at her they were able to close

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Speaker 10: the skin finally to reduce her risk of infection so

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Speaker 10: that they could get her back to the States for

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Speaker 10: her more definitive procedure to fix her fracture.

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Speaker 2: She has stated a desire to compete again. I guess,

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Speaker 2: knowing what I know about Lindsay Vaughan, I would not

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Speaker 2: rule that out. But is that realistic.

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Speaker 10: For the warnery person? Probably not like her. I think

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Speaker 10: anything's possible, to be quite honest. Although she had a

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Speaker 10: severe tremendous injury, I mean she has demonstrated time and

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Speaker 10: time again she has incredible recovery potential. I think if

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Speaker 10: she received the proper care, she got this fixed appropriately.

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Speaker 10: But it's a matter of healing and then after healing

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Speaker 10: kind of doing the appropriate rehab to return normal function

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Speaker 10: and high level function in her incidents. I think it's

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Speaker 10: a possibility, but only the future will tell.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome stuff. Doctor John Fridge from Orthos. Since I

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Speaker 2: have said this for years. We've been talking about Orthos

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Speaker 2: because it is true. There's tons of great things about

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Speaker 2: and we've had We've had good stuff this week. I

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Speaker 2: mean I've only been on the air for three days,

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Speaker 2: so that's maybe why we've had good stuff because I

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Speaker 2: yesterday was awesome. Go listen to Kelsey Conway. She was

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Speaker 2: on with US earlier today. Spent the week in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Sam Bruckhouse from Sumer Sports, We'll have our from the

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Speaker 2: the website, but the interview was great. Lindsay Rhoads from

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Speaker 2: Sumer Sports was terrific as well. All of that stuff

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Speaker 2: the way, tons of ice cold beer as well. Uh,

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Speaker 2: let's see here, Jeff and Lexington has been hanging on

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Speaker 2: for a while. Jeff, it's been a while since we

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Speaker 2: heard from you. What's up?

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Speaker 11: What do you say, my fellow bourbon and cigar loving friends?

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Speaker 2: My guy? What's going on?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 11: Listen? Uh, I just got to say thank you real

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Speaker 11: quick because I know your rest of the time. About

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Speaker 11: a year ago, it calls you and you recommended a

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Speaker 11: good book about the old a b ah to me.

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Speaker 14: You remember what it.

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Speaker 2: Was Loose Ball, Loose Balls Balls.

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Speaker 6: Yes, m h man.

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Speaker 11: I've been slowly getting my way through that thing, and

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Speaker 11: I've been reading it over the winner and uh, of

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Speaker 11: course with that, uh what is the prime video four.

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Speaker 2: Part series about the way, I've watched every bit of it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, man, And and it really goes hand in hand too.

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Speaker 11: I mean that it's it's pretty much word for word

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Speaker 11: what the within the series.

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Speaker 14: The book is really good.

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Speaker 2: For first of all, the book itself, Loose Balls by

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Speaker 2: Terry Pluto, one of the seminal books of my youth.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my five favorite all time sports books.

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Speaker 2: It might be even closer to the top. But Soul Power,

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Speaker 2: which is on Amazon Prime. It's a four part documentary

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Speaker 2: outlining the history, the rise, the history, and ultimately the

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Speaker 2: demise of the ABA is awesome. Like I learned more

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Speaker 2: about that league than I even learned from reading that book.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while since I've read that book. They

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Speaker 2: get a ton of former players, they get a ton

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Speaker 2: of Bob Costas is a part of it. He was

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Speaker 2: the voice of the Virginia Squires. They have, you know,

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Speaker 2: guys like Charles Barkley. They have extensive interviews with doctor

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Speaker 2: j the archival footage is awesome. In the last two weeks,

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Speaker 2: I've watched that and the Netflix eighty US Olympic Hockey

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Speaker 2: Team documentary. I don't think I'll watch a better sports

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Speaker 2: doc this year than either of those two.

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Speaker 11: No, sir, No, sir. But I really enjoyed that tremendously.

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Speaker 11: And I'm a little bit older than you kind of

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Speaker 11: grew up with the ABA and I, of course, when

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Speaker 11: I was about ten, eleven, twelve years old, I had

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Speaker 11: to have a ball.

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Speaker 2: You know, and yeah, red white, blue ball.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it brings back so much nostalgia. But I just

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Speaker 11: wanted to say thank you. That book has been amazing.

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Speaker 14: Man.

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Speaker 2: Well, I cannot recommend it enough, Jeff. It's it's always

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Speaker 2: nice to hear from you. Loose Balls by Terry Pluto,

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Speaker 2: which is a wild and crazy romp through the American

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Speaker 2: Basketball Association. If that's not your jam, if you're looking

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Speaker 2: for something to watch this weekend, the ABA doc on

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Speaker 2: Prime which is called Soul Power Like there's extensive coverage

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Speaker 2: of some of those great ABA Indiana Pacers teams and

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Speaker 2: they talk to a lot of the former players. They

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Speaker 2: tell the history of the Kentucky Colonels, they also heartbreakingly

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Speaker 2: so kind of tell the story of of what it

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Speaker 2: took for a lot of those ABA players to get

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Speaker 2: medical coverage. You know, there was a merger where not

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Speaker 2: every ABA team moved to the NBA, but obviously teams

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Speaker 2: like the Nets and Birds and Pacers did, and it

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Speaker 2: wasn't until four years ago that the NBA and the

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Speaker 2: NBAPA started to cover the medical benefits of some of

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Speaker 2: those ABA players from the early to mid seventies. And

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Speaker 2: there's some heartbreaking stories, but it's fun. They tell the

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Speaker 2: story of the two Saint Louis Hawks owners who when

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Speaker 2: the Hawks dissolved. When the NBA and ABA merged, they

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Speaker 2: got into a TV deal with the NBA that gave

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Speaker 2: them a percentage of all future national TV revenues and

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Speaker 2: made those guys billionaires. The Silner brothers owned the Saint

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Speaker 2: Louis Hawks, and they got paid for decades until the agreement.

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Speaker 2: The NBA finally got out of the agreement. I want

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Speaker 2: to say, like ten years ago. It's an awesome sports documentary,

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Speaker 2: the eighty US Olympic hockey team doc and there's obviously

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Speaker 2: been renewed interest in that team because of the hockey

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Speaker 2: success Americans have enjoyed in the Olympics. That documentary. For

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Speaker 2: a team that's had its story told a thousand times,

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Speaker 2: they approach it from a completely new perspective in many respects.

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Speaker 2: That is awesome. Is on Netflix, THEABA doc If you

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Speaker 2: Love Basketball, If you Love Basketball History. It's four parts

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Speaker 2: each an hour. You owe it to yourself. There you go,

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Speaker 2: and both Netflix and Prime can pay me for the

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Speaker 2: free plug. We gotta go. We're back Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday,

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Speaker 2: three oh five. Did our did Matt learn anything? Is

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Speaker 2: it gonna come back?

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Speaker 9: I haven't scared him away. He's still here, all right,

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Speaker 9: very good, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, We're gonna teach him. Man had a hard time.

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