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Speaker 1: But like Mike the course he said yesterday, maybe that

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Speaker 1: It's always terrific to talk to Jerry Dulac. Jerry, let's

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Speaker 1: start with the cliched questions. First, Should the Steelers have

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Speaker 2: Based on what those teams did do.

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Speaker 3: Well? I think it would be a stretch to say

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Speaker 3: But the Steelers were never going to make that kind

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Speaker 1: Well you talk about the asking price. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: Some of the media out let's say the Steelers were.

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Speaker 1: But how can you not give up a fourth and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I get that, Mark, and there's an argument

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Speaker 3: They already had to give up a fifth and I

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Speaker 3: know it just didn't happen. And so and yet one

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Speaker 3: wide receiver. I'm not saying where do you play him?

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Speaker 3: But even when they brought in Mike Williams last year,

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Speaker 3: he averaged nineteen snaps Mark, and he made a big

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Speaker 3: he rarely played after that, but he certainly didn't play

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Speaker 1: We often hear that the Steelers are all in, but

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Speaker 3: Well, Mark, They're never going to say that they are

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Speaker 3: you know, it's extremely reasonable to think, Okay, if all

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Speaker 3: you know it's reasonable to you know, make that correlation.

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Speaker 3: it was surprising, you know, and disappointing, if not alarming,

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Speaker 2: Would you keep Ramsey at safety period.

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Speaker 1: I know he's going to play there against LA this week,

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Speaker 3: Mark, that's one hundred percent right, and that's probably where

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Speaker 3: it's going to end up with him, if not this

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Speaker 3: I think eventually that's where he's going to play. But

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Speaker 3: You know what he didn't do, Mark, He didn't make

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Speaker 3: And he only had two days of practice with them,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't exposed, He wasn't picked on. Joey Porter was

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't like they tried to attack Kyle Duggert

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Speaker 1: I like some of the tweaks on defense, Jerry, I've

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, Well, the Steelers keep doing it well.

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Speaker 3: Market was successful, so I would imagine now again, it'll

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Speaker 3: Those two teams had thirteen passes defense. That is a lot.

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Speaker 3: But what it says is that the Steelers challenged the receivers.

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Speaker 3: They were looking at wide receiver, and they were looking

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Speaker 3: at a veteran defensive lineman, someone to be a backup

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Speaker 3: once they lost Daniel Qualley. Those were what they were

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Speaker 3: looking at the most. But look, Mark, anything's possible. They

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Speaker 3: could bring him in and they could do like they

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Speaker 3: did with Marquez Valdez Scantling. They could put him on

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Speaker 3: the practice squad. But you know, they're always looking at guys,

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Speaker 3: they're always working guys out. They do it almost almost once,

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Speaker 3: if not twice a week. So it's certainly it certainly

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Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me. But I don't think it's they're doing

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Speaker 3: so to bring him in to strengthen their secondary. I

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Speaker 3: think it's more like, hey, look here's a capable body,

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Speaker 3: and if we can add him and he's willing to

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Speaker 3: come in and be on a practice squad, then we'll

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 1: Jerry, what's your take on this game Sunday night. The

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Speaker 1: LA Chargers have some injury problems on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're decimated, but it still strikes me as

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Speaker 1: maybe a difficult matchup they got justin Herbert, they won

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Speaker 1: the ball well and they played tough and hard.

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Speaker 3: Mark. I would agree with you. Herbert leaves the NFL

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Speaker 3: in passing yards and the Steelers have given up three

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Speaker 3: three hundred yard passers in a row, and so you

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Speaker 3: are able to throw on the Steelers, but you know

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Speaker 3: how they defended it last week. Look at a lot

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Speaker 3: of those yards. As I mentioned earlier, Daniel Jones had

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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty four of his yards in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. But you know, they're giving up a lot

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Speaker 3: of passing yards. And the surprising thing is how well

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Speaker 3: the Chargers have been able to run the ball. You know,

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Speaker 3: after losing Marion Hampton and Najie Harris and without two

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Speaker 3: guys the last two games, they're averaging one hundred and

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Speaker 3: seventy five yards rushing per game and so but but

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Speaker 3: there's no Joe Alt. They'd already lost for Sheid Slaters

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Speaker 3: at the start of the year, so that you know

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Speaker 3: they've been playing without him anyhow, but you lose Joe Walt,

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Speaker 3: who's your best tackle, and that is a you know,

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Speaker 3: that's a big uh. That's a big development and not

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Speaker 3: a good one for the Charges. So offensively, they certainly

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Speaker 3: are able to produce yards and a lot of what

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Speaker 3: the Steelers do is going to be predicated on how

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Speaker 3: they play up front. And I say that mark two

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Speaker 3: because you look at the last two games. They went

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Speaker 3: against Josh Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor, certainly the leading rusher

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Speaker 3: in the league. And when you look at the two

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Speaker 3: of them, two of the best running backs in the league,

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Speaker 3: and they held both of them combined to under one

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Speaker 3: hundred yards. So you got to give props to their

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Speaker 3: rush defense the past two games because they shut down

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Speaker 3: those two guys. Jonathan's Taylor's longest run was nine yards,

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Speaker 3: and they can continue to do that, then they're going

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Speaker 3: to be Okay, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Think so too.

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Speaker 1: But I want to get a little talk in about

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Jaarre and I have really very few complaints there.

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Speaker 1: But one thing that I don't get is they abandoned

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Speaker 1: the one awful quick They've done that the last two games.

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Speaker 2: Who decides that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's Arthur Smith when it starts the game,

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Speaker 3: and usually it starts the half, you know, because they

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Speaker 3: script what ten or twelve plays and they came out

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Speaker 3: and went throw, throw, throw, when they have been running

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Speaker 3: the ball very well the past two games. Now, give

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Speaker 3: the Colts credit. I mean, they just shut that down

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Speaker 3: right away, and so you know, you try and back

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Speaker 3: them off the line of scrimmage, but yeah, you throw

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Speaker 3: it the first three plays. And I was surprised by that,

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Speaker 3: and just as I was shocked last week when they

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Speaker 3: had the sixteen to seven lead against the Packers at

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Speaker 3: halftime and they get the ball after scoring at the

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Speaker 3: end of the half and they come out and go throw, throw, throw, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't understand that. I kind of like the way

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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith's been calling the game. I like the flow

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Speaker 3: of what they've been doing for the most part, and

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Speaker 3: some of that was missing the other day, you know what,

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Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five yards. But what they did

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Speaker 3: do to their credit mark was they capitalized. They were

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Speaker 3: opportunistic with those turnovers, scoring twenty four points on those

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Speaker 3: four consecutive turnovers by the Colts, and so you know

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Speaker 3: the week prior, Mark, they were bemoaning that they had

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Speaker 3: to settle for field goals instead of touchdowns. Well, you

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Speaker 3: know that wasn't the case against the Colts. I will

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Speaker 3: also say, though the Steelers were given a lot of

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Speaker 3: short fields against the Colts. I think their average starting

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Speaker 3: field position was like a forty eighth. So when you

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Speaker 3: get short fields like that, obviously you don't have to

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Speaker 3: go as far, but you still have to convert into

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Speaker 3: their credit. They did.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Jared, here's what I think is a hidden secret

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Speaker 1: with the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Their offensive line is pretty good, now, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: With that question, Mark, I mean Aaron Rodgers. You know,

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Speaker 3: he hasn't turned the ball over just twice in the

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Speaker 3: last five games. For the last five he hasn't turned

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Speaker 3: the ball over. You know, he took a couple of

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Speaker 3: sacks the other day, but one of them he took deliberately,

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Speaker 3: which actually was a smart sack. But yeah, they didn't

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Speaker 3: run the ball as well as they have been. But

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Speaker 3: Troy Paltano just looked tremendous out there. Frederick Jones is

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Speaker 3: perfectly fine at left tackle, and you know they you

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Speaker 3: know they're gonna miss Isaac sayam Allo, I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: what he's going to do this week. He tried to

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Speaker 3: play a little bit against the Colts and then he

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Speaker 3: had to come out of the game with the same

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Speaker 3: injury that Peck but you know, so that disrupted their

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Speaker 3: heavy package a little bit. But all in all, the

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Speaker 3: offensive line has been very good. And the key there,

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Speaker 3: Mark is for the most part they've been healthy and

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Speaker 3: they've been able to start the same lineup, the same

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Speaker 3: five every game.

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Speaker 1: Jerry, great stuff, as always enjoyed the game Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it again next week. Good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Mark, always good talking with you, my friend.

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Speaker 1: That's the great Jerry Doulac of the Post Gazette. Brought

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Speaker 1: to us by bud Light. Easy to drink, Easy to enjoy.

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Speaker 1: I got kind of a sidebar about morrishav not starting tonight. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: just to give a little tease. Is going to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of people there tonight.

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Speaker 2: What if I not