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Speaker 1: You want to be an American.

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Speaker 2: Right back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW nine nine.

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Speaker 2: Dan Carroll in for Scott Sloan Sloaney enjoying the day

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Speaker 2: off today. Glad to be here for Sloany. So much

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Speaker 2: stuff is going on. We're all paying higher gasoline prices

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Speaker 2: right now. My buddy Daniel Turner from Power the Future

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock hour, So if you want to get the

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Speaker 2: straight scoop on why we're seeing gasoline prices the way

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Speaker 2: we are. Obviously, the conflict in the in the Middle

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Speaker 2: East is right to call it a Is it a conflict?

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Speaker 2: Is it a war? Operation? Epic fury? We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to figure that out. I guess we are at war?

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Speaker 2: How long is this going to last? Of course, we're

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Speaker 2: all paying higher electricity prices as well, so we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Daniel Turner about that. But we start off this

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Speaker 2: morning with my buddy who is the opinion editor at

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Inquirer, and that is Kevin Aldrich. And Kevin

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Speaker 2: Aldrich great to have you back on the show this morning.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Hey, I'm doing great, Dan, Thanks for

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Speaker 3: having me.

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Speaker 2: Is it just me, or does it seem like we

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Speaker 2: have been in not only on a national level, but

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Speaker 2: on a local level, that we have been in just

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Speaker 2: a really extraordinary news cycle as of late.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I always say I've been at this for a

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Speaker 3: while now, Dan, and it's like you think you've seen everything,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of times news gets recycled, and I

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Speaker 3: just say, it never ceases to amaze me that, no

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Speaker 3: matter everything I've seen in nearly thirty years of doing this,

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Speaker 3: there's always new stuff that comes up that just leaves

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Speaker 3: you with your mouth open.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I get up this morning and I go to

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Inquirer Cincinnati dot com Inquirer or website, and

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Speaker 2: I see a piece written by your colleagues Cameron Knight,

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Speaker 2: Gillian Strawinsky, and Matthew Copelli, and it's the headline is

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Speaker 2: safety lapses, unkept promises on Cincinnati block where nine kids

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Speaker 2: were shot. And this is John Street as Charles Lynn Street,

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Speaker 2: the Laura Playground right there in the West End. And

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Speaker 2: it's a lengthy piece and really gets into what a

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Speaker 2: lot of people in that area are feeling. And they're

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Speaker 2: looking at city Hall and they're saying, look, we've been

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Speaker 2: promised things, and it really points out just how unresponsive

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Speaker 2: in the general sense. I guess there's been a couple

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Speaker 2: of things that have been done, but in a general sense,

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Speaker 2: it really seems like the city Hall has been unresponsive

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Speaker 2: to the serious needs and the serious things that are

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Speaker 2: going on in that part of town.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think, and I think it's not just

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Speaker 3: probably that neighborhood. I think there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: neighborhoods in the City of Cincinnati that sort of feel

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Speaker 3: like city Council is not necessarily as responsive as they

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Speaker 3: would like for them to be, or as intentional towards

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Speaker 3: some neighborhoods as they would like to be, and feel

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Speaker 3: like there are certain neighborhoods in the city, whether you're

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Speaker 3: talking about downtown or other particular neighborhoods that dominate city

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Speaker 3: suffered disinvestment, crime problems, and things of that nature. And

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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, that's one of the challenges

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Speaker 3: that this council and past councils have kind of continued

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Speaker 3: to struggle with, is listening to folks. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: the folks out in Hyde Park, even one of the

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Speaker 3: more affluent communities, sort of found out last year how

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Speaker 3: difficult it is sometimes to get your voice heard down

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Speaker 2: And so I look at this piece, and then I

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Speaker 2: look at what the Vice Mayor is proposing, and this

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Speaker 2: issue of reparations for housing discrimination. And obviously I think

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Speaker 2: there were some serious discrimination issues that plagued Cincinnati in

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Speaker 2: the past. But when and she talks about fifteen different neighborhoods,

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Speaker 2: fifteen rising neighborhoods that would be eligible for this financial assistance,

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Speaker 2: and I look at and then I look at the

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Speaker 2: Kevin Aldridge, it's a lot more than just about putting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Dan, I kind of slightly disagree with

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Speaker 3: glass theory. You know that we're all familiar with that

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Speaker 3: when the neighborhoods that have a lot of disinvestment, where

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Speaker 3: think that what someone city council and rightfully have identified

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Speaker 3: for crime. I don't think those two things are unrelated.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's some on city Council who see

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Speaker 3: that these fifteen rising communities have been communities that have

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Speaker 3: So I don't think they're totally completely unrelated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just seems to me that it sort of

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Speaker 2: where this money goes. That you have a city, either

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Speaker 2: to be picking winners and losers. And I think there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think you already have a situation where

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Speaker 3: winners and losers are being pig Dan and I think that,

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Speaker 3: you know, we again, it goes back to the opening

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Speaker 3: are already already being picked. It just so happens that

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Speaker 3: So I think you already have a scenario down at

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Speaker 3: same folks who are winning all the time there at

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Speaker 2: There was a piece that was posted yesterday by I

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Speaker 2: think probably one of the sharpest minds in and around

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati that I've ever met, n'ts. Carl Kaden, lifelong Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: and served in the Criminal Division in the United States

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Speaker 2: and county government. And he wrote a piece in the

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Speaker 2: Inquiry about the city needs an agency to identify corruption

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Speaker 2: at City Hall and He's talking about an independent agency

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Speaker 2: look at what is and you and I. I don't

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Speaker 2: think you and I have talked since the extension. The

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Speaker 2: I wonder to myself, how long is this going to

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are asking that, how

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Speaker 2: long is the investigation and the Thigi going to drag on?

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Speaker 2: Is this really a good look for Cincinnati to have

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Speaker 2: And it looks like this idea that Carl Kayden has

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Speaker 5: Something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know mister Caden's piece, which you know,

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Speaker 3: which was an interesting piece, but not you know, completely

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Speaker 3: think about who has suggested sort of like this office

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that that's necessarily a bad idea.

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Speaker 3: frauder abuse that's happening down there. So I think I

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Speaker 3: It's been. I think it's been way too long for

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Speaker 3: them to have made some type of determination on what

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Speaker 3: her status is. And and I'm really struggling to understand,

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Speaker 3: you know, what is the need for all of these extensions.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what is she She's been out now, what

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Speaker 3: to continue to push this thing out. Uh again, it's

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Speaker 3: it's just not a good look for the city because

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Speaker 3: it just makes you wonder, Uh, you know, if if

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Speaker 3: she had been doing such a such a terrible job,

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Speaker 3: it seems like this would be, you know a bit

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Speaker 3: of an open and shut case, right. But uh, but

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Speaker 3: given the safe history and the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 3: some recent hirings that they've had have resulted in some

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Speaker 3: lawsuits that that have turned out favorably for the city,

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Speaker 3: maybe they're just trying to make sure they've got every

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Speaker 3: but it certainly is not a certainly is not a

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Speaker 3: great look for the City of Cincinnati to hear we

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Speaker 3: the fact that we still don't have a resolution on

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Speaker 3: get paid on the tax dollar dime. Yeah, raises a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a shame that a woman who has

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Kevin Aldridge, as always, men, when you're

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Speaker 2: very much for being here. All right, Thanks Dan, all right,

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Speaker 6: Hey, brother, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 6: I always appreciate coming on talking to you.

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Speaker 6: You No, I don't. And you know the eleven people

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Speaker 6: But when you have eleven people shot, three dead, all

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Speaker 6: to have a good time in our city, and we

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Speaker 6: don't want them to be shot. They're the silent, super

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Speaker 6: silent majority. The only thing that I have not been

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Speaker 6: able to get my head wrapped around, and I'm hoping

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Speaker 6: that this changes, is that we meaning me as a

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Speaker 6: black American and speaking to black Americans, that we get

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Speaker 6: to the point where we're not wedded to a party,

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Speaker 6: so that we're not just wedded to the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 6: no matter what they say, no matter what they do,

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Speaker 6: no matter how they treat us. For example, the governor

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Speaker 6: of California two weeks ago in Atlanta saying, hey, here's

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Speaker 6: here's my SAT score. And by the way, I can

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Speaker 6: read or I don't read well, in some way I'm

448
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Speaker 6: going to connect with you. I'm not connecting you with

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Speaker 6: you with your nine to sixty on your SAT. And

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Speaker 6: I'm not connecting with you when you say that you

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Speaker 6: have problems reading. Let me be clear with everybody. All

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Speaker 6: of my children, all four of my boys, are all

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Speaker 6: academic scholars, engineers, holding jobs, or they're working on a

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Speaker 6: master's degree. And my daughter is a scholar at Setan.

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Speaker 6: I have no idea what that man is talking about

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Speaker 6: in Atlanta, and the people in his audience didn't know.

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Speaker 6: That is what we call the identity politics that are dead.

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Speaker 6: That's why Jesse Jackson Junior Dan Carroll said this week,

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Speaker 6: why did these three presidents who didn't even know my

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Speaker 6: father come to his funeral and give us political talk.

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Speaker 6: It's not what they were supposed to do. It's not

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Speaker 6: what I asked them to do. That's a new philosophy,

463
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Speaker 6: he said, Republican, Democrat, independent, no matter who you are,

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Speaker 6: this is Jesse Jackson Junior speaking at his father's services

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Speaker 6: his memorial, He's saying, we are about the public policy,

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Speaker 6: we are not about the party, and so we've got

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Speaker 6: to separate as Black Americans from the party. So when

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Speaker 6: you see eleven people shot, Dan Carroll and you don't

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Speaker 6: find mayor Purevall anywhere, You cannot find any of the

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Speaker 6: members of council with a search warrant, you can't find

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Speaker 6: the administration anywhere to speak about the violence and say

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Speaker 6: what is the plan? And the reason they don't want

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Speaker 6: to do it. I'm gonna make it real clear is

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Speaker 6: they don't want to send a message that they support cops.

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Speaker 6: I don't know where these these blue dog democrats who

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Speaker 6: don't exist anymore, who we used the Tom Lukens of

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Speaker 6: the world, to Charlie Lukens of the world, the John

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Speaker 6: Cranley's of the world, who said, hey man, I can

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Speaker 6: support the police, I can make sure that we have

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Speaker 6: a safe community. They want to basically coddle criminals. And

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Speaker 6: that's what you're speaking about when you say you shot

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Speaker 6: nine people and I'm going to give you a fifty

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Speaker 6: thousand dollars bond and back on the street the next day.

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Speaker 6: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was. I watched some of that funeral of

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Speaker 2: Jesse Jackson over the weekend, and I heard, I actually

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Speaker 2: got I have the sound bite of Jesse Jackson's son saying,

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Speaker 2: don't politicize this funeral, and that's exactly what Barack Obama did,

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Speaker 2: and so did Kamala Harris for that matter. And then

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Speaker 2: we have the specter of Joe Biden getting up there

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Speaker 2: talking about how he's got this stuttering issue, and then

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Speaker 2: he says, I'm a hell of a lot smarter than

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Speaker 2: all of you, and I'm just just thinking, what, what?

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Speaker 1: What kind of.

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Speaker 2: Message is this?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 2: And look, Jesse Jackson, I was thinking. I almost voted

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Speaker 2: for Jesse Jackson when he ran for president back in

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Speaker 2: the eighties. And what he used to say all the

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Speaker 2: time is let's do what Let's find common ground, Let's

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Speaker 2: find common ground. But it seems that in our political

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Speaker 2: discussions these days, we are as far away from that

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Speaker 2: as we can possibly be. It seems like it's impossible

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Speaker 2: to find common ground on just about any issue at all.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 6: And just remember, as we talk about Jesse Jackson to

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Speaker 6: everyone listening, it's not about agreeing with everything about this man.

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Speaker 6: But let's make sure we have a context. He was

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Speaker 6: born in the nineteen thirties or the nineteen forties, early

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Speaker 6: nineteen forties, and he came up in a period of

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Speaker 6: time where he had to walk through the back door

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Speaker 6: to get a sandwich, and he saw people like the president,

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Speaker 6: whether it was Kennedy or you saw Martin Luther King

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Speaker 6: or Maker Evers, Malcolm X, all these people that were

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Speaker 6: being assassinated. That was the world that he lived in.

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Speaker 6: And so I just want to state, yes, we're in

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Speaker 6: a much better place today than we were in the

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Speaker 6: nineteen sixties, but it's because of some of the work,

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Speaker 6: and some of the work like people like Jesse Jackson

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Speaker 6: and did. And so what the Son was saying here

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Speaker 6: is why don't you come and speak to his great

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Speaker 6: work right places where you found common ground with him,

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Speaker 6: not using his services as a political launching point for

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Speaker 6: your presidential run or for some position that you want

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Speaker 6: to talk about to democrats. It's not who we are.

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Speaker 6: And I was very appreciative of Jesse Jackson Junior highlighting

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Speaker 6: that for the three presidents, and what he said was

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Speaker 6: not any of the none of these presidents. Dan Carroll

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Speaker 6: knew my father. I mean that was very powerful. He

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Speaker 6: was sitting a message like, dude, all you all had

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Speaker 6: to do here is come and just say eulogize him

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Speaker 6: and appreciate the work that his work that he did.

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Speaker 6: We didn't want you to come here and be political.

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Speaker 6: Whether it was Biden, whether it was Kamala Eiris, or

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Speaker 6: whether it was a President Barack Obama, none of them

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Speaker 6: should have been doing any of that at his services.

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Speaker 6: But getting back to your point, Dan Carroll, the violence

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Speaker 6: that is happening in our core, we want to be

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Speaker 6: honest here that these are predominantly Black Americans who are

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Speaker 6: killing or shooting other Black Americans in the city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: You might go to another city and say it's a

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Speaker 6: different violence between different cultures or different people, But in

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Speaker 6: the city of Cincinnati, these are Black Americans who are

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Speaker 6: shooting and hurting other Black Americans. We've got to be

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Speaker 6: real about this, and we've got to have a mayor

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Speaker 6: and a council and an administration that not just a

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Speaker 6: mural on the outside of city Hall that says Black

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Speaker 6: lives matter, but they have public policy that matches that

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Speaker 6: they are concerned about that. That's not a streetcar, Dan Carroll,

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Speaker 6: It's not spending five million dollars a year or five

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Speaker 6: million dollars a month to operate a streetcar. Right their

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Speaker 6: their mindset is around all of this other stuff that

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Speaker 6: they're doing, and they really don't care. That's the frustration

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Speaker 6: that we have. I think with the Democratic Party. Many

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Speaker 6: a lot of people are telling me, right now, the

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Speaker 6: Democratic Party has left me. I don't even know what

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Speaker 6: this party represents. Right They're talking about I need men

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Speaker 6: inside of locker rooms with women, which makes no sense.

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Speaker 6: If you talk to Black Americans who vote, many of

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Speaker 6: them would say that just doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't mean that they don't support the LGBTQ plus community.

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Speaker 6: They're saying, why is my party pushing me in this

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Speaker 6: direction that I have to agree with a dude swimming

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Speaker 6: or playing football or playing soccer and at a high

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Speaker 6: school level against my daughters. That just doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 6: And that's where the Democratic Party is pushing us. Here's

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Speaker 6: the last point. I'll say. We've got to vote in May.

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Speaker 6: We've got a primary, we got a November in Hamilton County.

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Speaker 6: We need people to show up and participate and vote.

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Speaker 6: We've got some judicial races, we have a gubernatorial race.

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Speaker 6: I'm supporting the vet Ramaswami. I would like to see

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Speaker 6: him be the next governor. I do not want to

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Speaker 6: turn our state into Virginia. I don't want to wake

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Speaker 6: up and we have a craziness that's coming out of Virginia.

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Speaker 6: That's why that gubernatorial race is so important.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, Chris Smithvan, we're going to have to

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Speaker 2: leave it there. We could go on and on and on,

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Speaker 2: but as always, I appreciate your insights and your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on this sort of thing, and appreciate you taking the

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Speaker 2: time to join us this morning. Keep up the great

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Speaker 2: work and people want to follow you. If people want

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Speaker 2: to follow you, where do they do that? I know

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Speaker 2: you love to talk about that.

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Speaker 6: Thank you on X at vote Smitherman please follow me

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Speaker 6: there so you can keep up with me throughout the week.

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Speaker 4: Thank you brother.

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Speaker 2: All right, Chris Smithervan, thank you very much, and stay

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Speaker 2: safe out there, man. I always appreciate Chris Smitherman. Way

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Speaker 2: in in coming up after the news here at the

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Speaker 2: top of the hour, my friend evangel and Duval of

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Speaker 2: the Varner Foundation for Children and Families is going to

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Speaker 2: be here and there is a lot going on as

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Speaker 2: it relates to foster care, and every minute and a

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Speaker 2: half another kid goes into foster care. And not only locally,

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Speaker 2: but nationally as well. We have a lot of kids

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Speaker 2: that they need help, and this administration, the Trump administration,

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Speaker 2: is actually trying to do something thing about it. And

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Speaker 2: how are things going here locally? Tim Tebow was on

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Speaker 2: Capitol Hill last week talking about the just thousands of

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Speaker 2: kids who are out there who are an abusive situations,

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Speaker 2: and he's trying to get Congress to act to create

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Speaker 2: a task force that is going to go out and

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Speaker 2: rescue these kids. So we'll talk to Evangeline Deval after

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Speaker 2: the news here at the top of the hour about

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Speaker 2: that nine point fifty four. Dan Carroll for Scott's Slum

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Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW, Do.

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Speaker 1: You want to be an American Idiot?

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Speaker 2: Back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW ten O seven.

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Speaker 2: Dan Carroll in for Scott Sloan today and last week

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Speaker 2: I was watching and listening as Tim Tebow was testifying

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Speaker 2: on Capitol Hill. I think second or third time he's

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Speaker 2: been up there, and he's been just staying on top

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Speaker 2: of Congress members of Congress to fight trafficking, child trafficking,

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Speaker 2: child abuse, child rescuing children who have been caught up

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Speaker 2: in just absolutely horrible situations. And so whenever I see

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, I think of my friend Evangeline Duval

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Speaker 2: and she is with the Varner Foundation for Children and Families,

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Speaker 2: and Evangeline Deval. It is great to have you back

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Speaker 2: on seven hundred WIW.

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Speaker 8: Well, good morning, and thank you for inviting me back there.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at a post on the of the

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Speaker 2: Varner Foundation a couple of days ago, and you talk

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Speaker 2: about foster and kinship care, and back in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: a child entered foster and kinship care every two minutes.

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Speaker 2: Today it is every minute and a half. So we have,

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Speaker 2: I guess, more stress on the foster care system today

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Speaker 2: than we've ever had before. Is that a fair statement?

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Speaker 9: That's very fair.

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Speaker 8: We have more kids going into foster care and kinship,

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Speaker 8: and the difference between the two is kinship they're going

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Speaker 8: to a family men or of best friend of one

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Speaker 8: of their parents or whatever. But then they get taken

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Speaker 8: off the foster kids count. So a lot of times

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Speaker 8: when you talk about foster care and you read and

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Speaker 8: they say our numbers are going down, they're really not.

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Speaker 8: They're they're just finding other placements for these kids, but

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Speaker 8: they're really still in foster care. A lot of the

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Speaker 8: kids so lived with a relative they'd never met, in

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Speaker 8: a state that isn't their own.

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Speaker 9: So it is getting worse for sure.

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Speaker 2: We talked last time. One of the last times we

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Speaker 2: talked was back in November of last year when the

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Speaker 2: Trump administration put out an executive order on fostering. They

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Speaker 2: call it fostering the Future of American Children and Families.

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Speaker 2: And so this is something that Malaney and Trump has

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Speaker 2: taken an interest in, and they talked about getting more resources,

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Speaker 2: more resources out there, more access to federal support, expanding

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Speaker 2: educational opportunities. They talk about economic literacy for a lot

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Speaker 2: of these kids who are aging out of the system.

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Speaker 2: So it's only been a few months now, but when

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Speaker 2: when you have a federal program like this and foster

653
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: care gets the attention of the White House and the administration,

654
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: have have you seen any results of that yet? Or

655
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: do something like this is going to take a little

656
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: while before you see any any any tangible evidence that

657
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: it's making a difference.

658
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 8: I don't chane it candible yet. But it's only been

659
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 8: a few months and they have a lot of things

660
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 8: in the work. I mean, test eighty five thousand youth

661
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 8: age out of foster care each year, and that's a

662
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 8: big thing to try and figure out. So it's there.

663
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 8: It's going to take some time. But I think what

664
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 8: I struggle with is that to help these kids, it's

665
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 8: not going to be a one size fit's all ever.

666
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 8: And this is what we Even the kids that don't

667
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 8: age out, they're stuck in this cycle. Everybody knows that

668
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 8: the foster system is broken and it needs some different attention.

669
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 8: From my perspective, it needs to be brought down to

670
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 8: the community level and giving a lot of these agencies

671
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 8: with these people that just are so wonderful and working

672
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 8: with these kids a lot more flexibility, less red hate,

673
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 8: so that when they do age out, they don't have

674
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 8: all the problems that the cop administration and Malaney are

675
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 8: trying to tackle. Let's go back to the source. And

676
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 8: it's the same thing with Tim Tebow. He is on

677
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 8: an international stage and he's talking about internationally all the

678
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 8: children that are being traveled, well here in the United

679
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 8: States on what who you want to cite anywhere from

680
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 8: sixty to ninety percent of the children in the US

681
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 8: that are traffic have spent time in foster care, So

682
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 8: wrap your head around that. So if that is true,

683
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 8: and I have no way of knowing whether it's sixty

684
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 8: or ninety percent, then let's go back to the foster

685
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 8: care system because if we can make real out of

686
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 8: the inroads in that system, there are left kids that

687
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 8: are going to end up being traffic. So again, with

688
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 8: what the Trump Trump administration is doing is amazing, but

689
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 8: let's go back down to our route of how did

690
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 8: we get here?

691
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 9: What do these kids need?

692
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 8: Not a one size it's all. Part of the reason

693
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 8: that the Barner Foundation is so successful is because we

694
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 8: stand in that resource gap for these families that are

695
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 8: trying to foster these kids because they don't get the

696
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 8: support they need from other systems. A great example is

697
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 8: we had a big who was born in withdrawal in ICU.

698
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 8: Had a wonderful foster family that stood up and said,

699
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 8: we'll take this child, but she couldn't be released from

700
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 8: the hospital unless she was on oxygen. Well, they took

701
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 8: her home, Medicare brought oxygen for her, but they would

702
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 8: not take for a portable oxygen, so they couldn't go

703
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 8: anywhere with her. So they were tethered to the house,

704
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 8: and they applied and plied, applied to other things b

705
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 8: jfs and all the rest of it. And the way

706
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 8: is always at least twelve to eighteen months even to

707
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 8: get a reply on whether they're going to even accommodate you.

708
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 8: And by that time a lot of parents had given up.

709
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 8: So we ended up paying for a portable oxygen unit

710
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 8: for this little girl. And the mom emailed me and said,

711
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 8: we all get as a family to go watch my son's.

712
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 9: Baseball this weekend for the very first one.

713
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 8: And it's I know, And there's those kinds of things

714
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 8: that happen all the time. So a lot of what

715
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 8: we stand in the resource gap for will eventually be

716
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 8: supplied by Medicare or JFF or whatever. But the way

717
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 8: to get these things taken care of is so long.

718
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 8: We had another intense.

719
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 9: With a child that needed a specialized safety beds because

720
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 9: he was autistic and he would get us and he

721
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 9: would hurt himself, and that way was eighteen months again.

722
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 8: And in the meantime, he's on his fifth placement because

723
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 8: you're wearing a foster parent out because one of them

724
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 8: had to stay up all night and make sure he

725
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 8: was safe. These are the things that we need as

726
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 8: a as a community to go back and say, Okay,

727
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 8: we need to we need to get all the red

728
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 8: tape out of the way. We need to meet each.

729
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 9: Child where they are.

730
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 8: No child that has been through trauma it has the

731
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 8: same challenges. None of them do. Some of them may

732
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 8: be a the same that it's an individual thing. And

733
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 8: if we really want good outcomes, so these kids aren't traffic,

734
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 8: so they don't run away, so they don't have no

735
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 8: place else to go once they age out, we need

736
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 8: to get back.

737
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 9: To the roots.

738
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 8: And the roots have got to be in the community,

739
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 8: and we need to be that. We have a huge

740
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 8: shortage of foster parents because it's hard. Not only that hard,

741
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 8: you get yeah exactly, I foster for kids in my

742
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 8: real lifetime, and it's hard. You don't get phone calls back,

743
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 8: you don't get all the things that you need, and

744
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 8: what ends up happening is it becomes so disruptive to

745
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 8: your life and your and your family and you feel

746
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 8: like you're drowning. You're going to ask that child to

747
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 8: be rehomed. Well, every time you rehome them, it's more

748
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 8: trauma up on trauma, trauma. And remember, these kids aren't

749
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 8: in the foster system to anything that they've done wrong.

750
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 9: They are they are taking the.

751
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 8: Burden of the consequence for their parents acts. So what

752
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 8: their parents did have caused them to be in this

753
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 8: and yet they're traumatized, comte and I will and it's

754
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 8: not right.

755
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 9: It's just not right.

756
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think of the different families that I've known

757
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: over the years that have been involved in fostering kids,

758
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: and I look at these families and they're extraordinary. I mean,

759
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: they really really are there. And it's not that they're

760
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: doing anything special, but they're extraordinary in the way they're

761
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: able to open their hearts and open their homes and

762
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: and go the extra mile on almost a daily basis

763
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: for these kids. And they don't you know, they don't

764
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: make any money doing it. And it's a it's a

765
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: strain on the resources. And you got and you guys

766
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 2: constantly talk about how fifty percent of those who are

767
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: involved in foster care they they have to give it

768
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: up simply because it's it's such a strain on the resources.

769
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: I think you have a lot of people who are

770
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: well intended and want to do right by these kids.

771
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: So it's not always a nightmare scenario, but just when

772
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: it comes down to the bottom financial line, a lot

773
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: of these families just can't make it happen well.

774
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 8: And it's going to disrupt your family routine too, especially

775
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 8: if these children one third of all the children DAN

776
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 8: in foster care are disabled one third, so that means

777
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 8: doctor's appointment, and this is on top of the therapy

778
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 8: that these kids should have anyway if they're in foster care,

779
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 8: which they are, but often it's weekly doctor's appointment, children's

780
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 8: or someplace else, and it's a lot of it's a

781
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 8: lot of time that you invest in these kids, and

782
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 8: these parents really love these kids and really want to

783
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 8: make a difference, but sometimes it just gets to the point,

784
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 8: especially with kids that were traffic and you and I

785
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 8: have talked about this, once they're once they're rescued, and

786
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 8: I take I mean Tim Tebow is a wonderful advocate

787
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 8: for these kids that are trafficked and trying to make them,

788
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 8: trying to find where they are and rescue them. But

789
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 8: once they're rescued, what do we do with them? Our

790
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 8: foster program is already broken. If you take a kid

791
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 8: that has been sexually abused for years and sold and

792
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 8: beaten and all these other things that you know are

793
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 8: addicted to drugs. A lot of them are because that's

794
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 8: what makes them compliant during their abuse. And you turn

795
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 8: around and want to place them in a foster home.

796
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 8: That's a that doesn't work. It just doesn't work because

797
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 8: you they have so many physical and mental and social

798
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 8: emotional needs that they don't sit in. So a lot

799
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 8: has to go back to We cannot have all these

800
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 8: one size stif doll trainings and programs. We need to

801
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 8: really reach out and change the way that we do this.

802
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 8: It needs to be individualized. And again that's why I

803
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 8: said it needs to come back to the community. And

804
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 8: if we had it said that if every church in

805
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 8: Ohio were to have one family fostering with the rest

806
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 8: of the church family coming around them and supporting them

807
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 8: by giving him rested care and helping them out with

808
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 8: transportation and all this other kind of stuff, we wouldn't

809
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 8: have any We wouldn't have a shortage of foster parents

810
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 8: because it just takes a lot. I mean, for instance,

811
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 8: when I had my my last foster kid, I have

812
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 8: a very great friend that lives in Kentucky. I'm not

813
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 8: allowed to take her over state lines. I couldn't take

814
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 8: her there. Real you're not allowed to take a child

815
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 8: yet without permission. You can't.

816
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: For any reason for a visit, for aion, just spend

817
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: spending you know, a saturd they swimming in the pool or.

818
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 4: Something like that.

819
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 8: Right, and if you have a child.

820
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 2: How about that.

821
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 8: Well, one of them, one of the faster kids I had,

822
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 8: was eleven, and she wasn't even allowed to go to

823
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 8: speak a sleepover unless they had investigated the parents. I mean,

824
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 8: I understand the premise behind all that, because you're trying

825
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 8: to because they're keeping that child safe. But we've got

826
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 8: to do it and you can apply that. It takes

827
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 8: days or sometimes weeks to be able to.

828
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: Get that get that propose, going to say, it doesn't

829
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 2: sound very practical in reality. When you do you try

830
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: to make that work in a in a real life scenario,

831
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: right yeah, yeah, but.

832
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 8: God for bitch, they should go to this sleepover and

833
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 8: something happened to them, because then they are When a

834
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 8: foster child is with you, you have no rights. You

835
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 8: have no rights. The the they're the ward of they're

836
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 8: the ward of the county. Ward is I mean, you

837
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 8: have you are just caring for them for the time being,

838
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 8: so you have very little say. And that's why foster

839
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 8: parents think that they they're burnt out. They have no resources,

840
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 8: and they just don't feel like they have any support.

841
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 8: What they're they're turning their lives upside down inside out

842
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 8: for God's take. Then need a little bit of support,

843
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 8: and the support is so tied up in the system

844
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 8: and the red tape. Again, I keep harping back to this,

845
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 8: but let's put this back into into our community's hands,

846
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 8: in their labs, and say, why don't we come around

847
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 8: these kids in our own community, our own our own

848
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 8: part of the part of Ohio, or even just the state,

849
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 8: and let's decide how we're going to work with these kids,

850
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 8: because other than that, they really don't have much of

851
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 8: a chance. These kids, you're never going to get anywhere

852
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 8: with these kids, their behavior, their learning ability, they're all neurodivergent.

853
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 8: They all are behind at school. Most of them will

854
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 8: never graduate all this other kind of stuff because their

855
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 8: brain doesn't feel safe, and they don't because they don't

856
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 8: feel safe, they don't trust. They've been learned, they've learned

857
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 8: not to trust people. And until they can and they

858
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 8: feel safe. You can't break through to them on so

859
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 8: many different levels, and that we need to talk about that,

860
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 8: and we need to understand what they've been through. When

861
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 8: you have a child this place with you, you are

862
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 8: not told, well, but why they are there, because that's privileged.

863
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: They hold it back.

864
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 8: You have no idea. A little little boy once that

865
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 8: was placed here in the middle of the night and

866
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 8: I went to run him a bath because it was

867
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 8: he was so he stealthy, had to toe and he

868
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 8: just lost it and lost it. And it wasn't until

869
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Speaker 8: I understood that they used to hold his head under

870
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 8: the water. Well, sure would have been nice to know

871
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 8: that before he came.

872
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: He unbelieved.

873
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 8: So it's always it's always a challenge. But I think

874
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 8: if a again, foster care is so so important and

875
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 8: if people can't foster, this is a huge commitment. Please

876
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 8: please please try and donate to Barner Foundation for Children

877
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 8: and Families or another foundation like that that stands in

878
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 8: the resource gap so that we can give these families

879
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 8: the support that they need so that they can continue

880
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 8: and will continue to love on these kids and keep

881
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 8: them safe and provide a better future for them.

882
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: Well and of Angeline We've only got about a minute

883
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: or so left here, but again, that's what that's one

884
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: of the reasons why I love having you on and

885
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: I love talking about the Varner Foundation because it's it's

886
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: a great organization. You don't take a dime for yourselves,

887
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: not every penny that that you raise in fundraising goes

888
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: to the mission, and I think that's one of the

889
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: most important things. And I will never stop having you

890
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: guys on because you're so dedicated to what you do

891
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: and I just can't think of anything that's more important

892
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: than helping these kids out in Ohio. Plays such a

893
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: big part when it comes to children being trafficked and

894
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: the lives of these kids being ruined. I know, look,

895
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: I know there's great foster families out there, and not

896
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 2: every case is the worst case scenario, but when people

897
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: need help, Thank God for that, The Varner Foundation and people.

898
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 4: Like you were there, well, thank you very much.

899
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: Thank you. You love what we do.

900
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: I know you do, and there's no more passionate advocate

901
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: than you are. Evangeline. We got to run. As always,

902
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time, keep up the great work and

903
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 2: we'll be seeing you soon and have you on again

904
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: before too long.

905
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Speaker 8: Oh, thanks so much, have a great day, Dan.

906
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Evangeline Deval and just saw

907
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: all you have to do is google it. The Varner

908
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: Foundation for Families and Children, just great work that they

909
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: do over there. Ten twenty four. We got to get

910
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 2: to a break, Daniel Turner, Power the Future. On the

911
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 2: other side of this, we'll talk about gas prices, electric prices,

912
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: straight to horror moves, all that stuff as we roll

913
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: on till noon today on seven hundred WLW. Al right

914
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: back on the back one, seven hundred WLW ten thirty eight,

915
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: Dan Carroll for Scott Sloan today. I'm not sure if

916
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: Slony is back tomorrow or not, but for me, it

917
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a show unless I had on this guy.

918
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: Power of the Future is the website. The guy who

919
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: puts it all together is my buddy, Daniel Turner, one

920
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: of the most sought after analysts when it comes to energy,

921
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: economic policy, political policy, anything under the sun. My buddy

922
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: Daniel Turner can field it all. Daniel, how are you

923
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: doing today?

924
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 4: Oh boy, what a day we are having, Dan. But

925
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 4: it's always a pleasure to be.

926
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Speaker 2: On with you, it is. It is always great to

927
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: have you on. We got up this morning and we

928
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 2: see that oil is hitting one hundred dollars a barrel

929
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati. A week ago, we were paying two

930
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: forty nine for a gallon of gas. Now we're paying

931
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 2: three point thirty nine for a gallon of gas. People

932
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: are wondering why the gas prices are so high. I

933
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: think we know because of the conflict of war in

934
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: the Middle East, to Operation Epic Fury. I'm reading stories

935
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: about the Straits of Horror moves. The straits are open,

936
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: the straits are not open. Ships that got through this

937
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: weekend they didn't get through. I don't know what to

938
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: believe about the reporting that's going on there, but I

939
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: guess because really, anytime there's there're shooting going on and

940
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: missiles flying around in the Middle East, that's going to

941
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: have an effect on oil prices.

942
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Speaker 4: It does. And any of us of a certain age

943
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 4: have known that whenever something happens in the Middle East,

944
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: it affects oil prices. So maybe maybe this will be

945
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 4: the very last time for the foreseeable future, hopefully forever,

946
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: that actions in the Middle East affect oil prices. Maybe

947
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 4: we can actually end this nonsense. So oil prices are

948
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: global command and what happens on the world stage impacts

949
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 4: America and oil markets hate uncertainty, and that's what we

950
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 4: have right now. We don't know what the hell the

951
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 4: future is going to bring. We had sixty dollars barrel

952
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 4: oil for the first year of the Trump administration because

953
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 4: there were certainty, not just geopolitical, but there was permitting certainty,

954
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 4: There was financing certainty, there was regulatory certainty. And when

955
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: all of those things happened together, everyone just kind of

956
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 4: calms down and oil prices drop. And that's why we

957
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 4: saw very, very cheap oil and gasoline for as long

958
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 4: as we did. Right now, we don't know what the

959
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: future is going to bring, and that makes people absolutely petrified.

960
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 4: More specifically, the gasoline prices. The reason why they jump

961
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: so high at the pump is that the price you

962
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: pay currently is what your gas station knows it has

963
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: to buy in the future. Right the gas, the gas

964
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: you're filling in your car was paid last week with

965
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 4: those prices. So if the future says, holy crap, how

966
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 4: expensive is oil are going to be? How expensive is

967
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 4: gasoline going to be? I don't know. That is why

968
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 4: you see those prices jump immediately because They don't know

969
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: when the next tanker shows up what it's going to cost,

970
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 4: so they prepare for the worst case scenario because that's

971
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 4: how small the margins on gasoline actually are. So it's

972
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: a complicated business and war in the Middle East does

973
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: not help. But like I said, hopefully this will be

974
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 4: the last time we have to worry about this region

975
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Speaker 4: ever again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the one of the major parts of

977
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 2: the Trump platform was making America the dominant energy player

978
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 2: across the world. I know that was Ei or he

979
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: was making steps, taking steps to get to that goal.

980
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: I don't think we're there yet, but at least the

981
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: ball is rolling in that direction. With If America becomes

982
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: the and I think America will become the dominant energy

983
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: player in the world in terms of oil and in

984
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: terms of energy production. How much of a factor is

985
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: that going to be.

986
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 5: Huge?

987
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 4: Because if you control the oil, you control the world.

988
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 4: And we need that. We need America to control the

989
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 4: world and set the world agenda, set the stage for good.

990
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 4: So I think that's absolutely essential. You know, one of

991
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: the things that's very frustrating about all of this is

992
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: for the last couple of years, we had the administration

993
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 4: that was trying to set the agenda for renewables, wind

994
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: and solar and crappy eeds and crappy you know, batteries

995
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 4: and all that is controlled by China. And so here's

996
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 4: the Trump administration saying, you know what, America can dominate

997
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 4: the oil business, and then we will set the world stage.

998
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: We will set the agenda. That explains what happened in Venezuela.

999
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 4: It's explained what happened with the Panama Canal, It's explained

1000
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 4: what's happening in the stra of horn Mouse. If we

1001
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 4: can control the world's oil supply, we can control world peace, geostability,

1002
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 4: and that is a good thing. We also have to

1003
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: realize we don't have a lot of friends out there,

1004
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: and that's the most frustrating thing. As much as this

1005
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: is bad for the world's economy, there are huge oil

1006
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 4: and gas producers. Who are the ones really getting stuck

1007
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 4: with this? Saudi Arabia, Uae, Kuwait, Ama, Oman, right, the

1008
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 4: United Arab Emirates, Doha, all these places we talked about,

1009
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 4: and all these that exotic vacation. Let's what the hell

1010
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 4: are they doing to open the straits of horn Mouse? Right?

1011
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 4: Aren't these they're Arab brothers. Aren't these all there Islamic

1012
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 4: friends and you're like, well, no, one is Wahabi and

1013
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 4: one is Sheite and the other is Sunni, and you

1014
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But you know what, They're not doing

1015
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 4: a damn thing because they don't care. It shows you

1016
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 4: who we have to deal with in the world. Why

1017
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 4: is not? Why is do buy not petrified that their

1018
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 4: oil is not getting out? Because Daniel, let me let

1019
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 4: me stop you. Right there is the straight of horror moves.

1020
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 4: Is it open right now or not?

1021
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: I mean, do you know I read where we're going

1022
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: to have naval ships escorting vessels through there. I read

1023
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: over the weekend where there was a container ship that

1024
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: got through. I read that that there's a blockade that

1025
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: nothing is getting through. What's what's the real story on

1026
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: the street?

1027
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 4: Energy Secretary Chris Wright said, the very first tanker went

1028
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: through yesterday and that had a and it didn't even

1029
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 4: need a navy escort. This is not about the navy.

1030
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: This is not about them worrying they're getting blown up.

1031
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 4: This is about insurance. And this is where just the

1032
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 4: world gets very complicated. Everything has insurance, right, every vehicle,

1033
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 4: every vessel, the world's largest insurers right now are saying

1034
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 4: I am not insuring your cargo ship, your five hundred

1035
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 4: million dollar cargo ship if you go through that area.

1036
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: So you're sitting there, you're waiting for someone to underwrite

1037
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: your insurance. And so the captain has just anchored. Now

1038
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 4: the American government has come in and said, we will

1039
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 4: provide your insurance and therefore you can go. I think

1040
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: if they had the insurance they would go. So why

1041
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 4: don't the insurers want it? Well, because the insurers don't

1042
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 4: like Donald Trump. The insurers are Lloyd's of London. There

1043
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 4: are a bunch of of of Commy Pinkos who were

1044
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 4: based in London right there. There are a bunch of greenies.

1045
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 4: They hate the oil and gas industry. There's a lot

1046
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 4: going on right now of why we are on the

1047
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: pickle we're in, and it is not because we killed

1048
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 4: one of the most evil men in creation, the Ayatola.

1049
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: It's because there's a lot of people who don't want

1050
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 4: to see America succeed, because they don't want America to

1051
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 4: control the oil and gas of the world. They want

1052
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 4: a reset global order.

1053
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: Is this something that should have been anticipated ahead of

1054
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: time by Trump? And the administration.

1055
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 4: I this is not a criticism. I don't think Donald

1056
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: Trump has ever. I think Donald Trump is doesn't realize

1057
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 4: how evil the world actually is. How do I put

1058
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 4: any nicer? Remember in his first term, and he would

1059
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: appoint these people of his backstab him. People say, I

1060
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 4: think Donald Trump only and he's doing this for ten years, right,

1061
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: But he is not a career politician. He's a business guy.

1062
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 4: And business guys that's the joys of this hate each other.

1063
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 4: But when you make a deal, you make a deal

1064
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: on life goes on. I don't have to like you

1065
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 4: personal we have our invested interests in politics. That's not

1066
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 4: the same criteria. And maybe Donald Trump was stunned to

1067
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 4: see Keir Starmer, the British Prime Minister, saying no, we're

1068
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 4: not going to get We're not going to let you

1069
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 4: land your jets here. Not only that, but we've sold

1070
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 4: one of the most strategic bases in the Indian Ocean

1071
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 4: out from under you the eagle go to see it.

1072
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 4: Maybe he was stunned that the CEO of Lloyd's of

1073
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 4: London is like, you know what, I'm not going to

1074
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 4: ensure those cargo ships because I want to see the

1075
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 4: Americans suffer because I'm deeply worried about climate change or whatever. There.

1076
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 4: I think Donald Trump is always stunned at how awful

1077
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 4: and evil politics actually is. And that explains why we

1078
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 4: can't get the Save Act passed. That explains our thirty

1079
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 4: nine prillion dollar debt, it explains our open borders, et cetera.

1080
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also starting to read some criticism of Trump

1081
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Speaker 2: for not having the Strategic Petroleum Reserve topped off. But

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Speaker 2: I think people forget that it was Joe Biden who

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Speaker 2: depleted the strategic Petroleum Reserve to the lowest level that

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Speaker 2: we've had since I think before World War Two, and

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Speaker 2: filling it up is not You don't just flip a

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Speaker 2: switch and fill it up overnight and I thank you, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I'll begin. You know, filling it up began back

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Speaker 2: in January when they started a program of for replenishing

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Speaker 2: the strategic petroleum reserves. So I think that that's what

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Speaker 2: a criticism is a little uncalled for.

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Speaker 4: It's uncalled for, and it's totally ignorant, and it's opportunistic.

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Speaker 4: You know, Joe Biden drained some three hundred million barrels

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Speaker 4: of oil from the reserves. Now the reserves were made

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Speaker 4: that you can deplete very quickly because they are supposed

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Speaker 4: to keep America afloat in the case of crisis. So

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Speaker 4: you can drain four four and a half million barrels

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Speaker 4: a day pretty darn easy. But imagine refilling it at

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Speaker 4: that rate, right, Imagine if if we produced thirteen point

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Speaker 4: six million barrels a day. What would happen to oil

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Speaker 4: prices if two hundred thousand barrels a day went into

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01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: the reserve, Well, oil prices would jump through the roof

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Speaker 4: because that's a huge percentage of supply that is going

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Speaker 4: towards the reserves, right, And two hundred thousand barrels a

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Speaker 4: day to replenish three hundred million, we're talking about a very,

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Speaker 4: very long process. So maybe we're doing, you know, fifty

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Speaker 4: thousand barrels a day, enough to make an impact on

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Speaker 4: the supply, but not enough dwindled supply to increase the price. Right,

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Speaker 4: So what's that calculation? All this goes back to what

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Speaker 4: you said, it was Joe Biden who did this. So

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Speaker 4: once again, like the border, like Obamacare, like the strategic

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Speaker 4: petroleum reserve, like the state of our military, will you

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Speaker 4: give democrats power, they will do everything they can to

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01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 4: destroy your once great institutions, and then you inherit a

1114
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 4: piece of dog crap, and then the voters or the

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Speaker 4: media is like, well, I am surprised, Dan Carroll hasn't

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01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 4: fixed this yet. You know what, It's been four d

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Speaker 4: and I'm starting to get angry. Four years Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: had untethered control of this industry and people. Now in

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Speaker 4: thirteen months, Rolfe Come hasn't fixed it yet. F you, buddy.

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Speaker 4: That's why he hasn't fixed it because you guys did this.

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Speaker 4: And you have Shreed Brown, who's trying to run for office.

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Speaker 4: Who's the guy trying to run against Shareed Brown? Crucify that,

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Speaker 4: sob on these points, where were you when Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: dwindled the Strategic Petroleum Reserve? Shared Brown? You want your

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Speaker 4: Senate feedback? What the hell did you do to get

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Speaker 4: our oil and gas pipelines operating to protect America's infrastructure?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 4: And now you want to come back to the Senate

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Speaker 4: and on what principles? On what grounds we don't have

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Speaker 4: enough genital mutilation of children. You can't hate these people enough. Dan.

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Speaker 4: They have power and they destroy things, and then they

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Speaker 4: have the balls to look at you and be like,

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Speaker 4: I can't believe this is broken. How come you haven't

1134
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 4: fixed it yet? This is my absolute loathing for professional democrats,

1135
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Speaker 4: elected democrats. It's a Joe Biden and companies.

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Speaker 2: It's an excellent point. And if what else I'm reading

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Speaker 2: is true, the infrastructure doesn't even exist to refill the

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Speaker 2: spr now. At the rate that we're talking, you can

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Speaker 2: drain it a lot faster than you can fill it up,

1140
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying here. We've got a few minutes

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Speaker 2: left here, Daniel Turner. But I'm looking at Fox News

1142
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: right now.

1143
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Speaker 4: And I take a breather.

1144
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: I keep saying, I'm going to book you if I'm

1145
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: going to book you for an hour and a half

1146
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: segment one of these days, because we could fill that

1147
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Speaker 2: up quite easily. But I'm looking at Fox News right

1148
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: now and they're doing a report on what's happening in

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Speaker 2: New York City. You had demonstrations over there on the weekend,

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Speaker 2: and then you had some guys toss essentially IEDs into

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Speaker 2: a demonstration that was happening there, and somehow Mandani is

1152
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: coming out and criticizing the people that I guess see

1153
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: he's criticizing the people that had the demonstration because that

1154
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: triggered the terrorists to do terrorists? Then now am I

1155
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: am I reading?

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Speaker 4: Then it's like after nine to eleven when we said

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Speaker 4: we have to worry about the backlash on our Muslim community,

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01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 4: and you say, wow, I think we have to worry

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Speaker 4: about the thousands of dead New Yorkers that we have.

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Speaker 4: This is exactly what the left does. Right. A crazy

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Speaker 4: Muslim terrorist throws an ied at a crowd and the

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Speaker 4: mayor's response is, we have to wonder what happened to

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Speaker 4: provoke that guy. This is moral equivalent equivocation. This is

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Speaker 4: what Barack Obama does all the time, right. This is

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Speaker 4: this is that idea that everyone is guilty, both sides

1166
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Speaker 4: are guilty, but the right is actually more guilt. This

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Speaker 4: is Charlie Kirk got it right. If he just stopped

1168
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Speaker 4: going on college campuses and and and preaching his hate,

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Speaker 4: as we say that, then then he wouldn't have gotten shot.

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Speaker 4: So he actually he did this himself, right, This is

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Speaker 4: this is the moral equivocation of the godless, gutless left.

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Speaker 4: You know, hopefully Cash betel On the FBI can unravel

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Speaker 4: this network. What I am fascinated in in this thing?

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Speaker 4: Is what nineteen year old kid from Cincinnati is going

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Speaker 4: to go to the Chicago Mayor's office to protest? Right,

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Speaker 4: You're like, what, I don't even know. I grew up

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Speaker 4: in New York City. I've never been to Gracie Manchin.

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Speaker 4: How did this kid from Bucks County, Pennsylvania show up

1179
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Speaker 4: in New York City? Oh? You know why? Because there

1180
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 4: is a Muslim network to protect the Muslim mayor and

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01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 4: to fight for the Muslim mayor. And that network has

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01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 4: to be unraveled. They've got to be hung, hanged in

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Speaker 4: the town square and the rest of them have to

1184
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Speaker 4: be deported.

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Speaker 2: White supremacy, White supremacy, Daniel Turner. It's out there all

1186
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: over the place. And thank god, these these clowns who

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Speaker 2: threw this explosive device into this crowd were completely incompetent

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Speaker 2: bomb makers. We'd be talking about an absolute massacre today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, in tragic that. You know, these

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Speaker 4: kids are first generation Americans America. Let their parents come

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Speaker 4: to this country. Go online and look at the photos

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Speaker 4: of the FBI raising the house. It is some damn house.

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Speaker 4: Mom and dad did well for the same And then

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Speaker 4: who and what did what type of kids did they raise? Right?

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Speaker 4: And that raises questions. I'm sorry about mom and dad,

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Speaker 4: What the hell is going on there? You know, why

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Speaker 4: did we allow you into this country if the children

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Speaker 4: that you bore on our soil do this? Because I

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Speaker 4: have grandparents that were born in a foreign country. But

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Speaker 4: my parents also, you know, fought and and and protected

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Speaker 4: this country at a very different level of immigration that

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Speaker 4: we have. So a lot has to be in question

1203
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 4: about you know, this is this, this unravels the well

1204
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 4: it's legal versus illegal immigration. We we have a problem

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Speaker 4: with who we allow into this country and assimilation and

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Speaker 4: I am tired of unassimilated people posing a threat for

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Speaker 4: me and my family.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, Daniel Turner will have to leave it there.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you carving out time between all your television hits.

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Speaker 2: You're a very busy guy. Keep up the great work,

1211
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Speaker 2: my friend, and we'll be talking again before too long.

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Speaker 4: God blessed Dan. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Daniel Turner. The website is

1214
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 2: Power of the Future, a lot of great stuff there.

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Speaker 2: Always recommend you check it out. Ten fifty four Dan

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Speaker 2: Carroll for scotslan on seven hundred WLW do you.

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Speaker 1: Want to be an American idiot?

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Speaker 2: Right back on the Big One seven hundred w L

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Speaker 2: eleven eight, Dan Carroll got slown coming up at the

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Speaker 2: bottom of the hour after the news. At the bottom

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Speaker 2: of the hour, my buddy Jim Serger will be here.

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Speaker 2: He'll be joining us on the phone. He's got a

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Speaker 2: new book, count that Lance McAllister has written a little

1224
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 2: blurb for It's called Everybody Bunts, And so we will

1225
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Speaker 2: talk to Jim about that. In the meantime, phone lines

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Speaker 2: are open five to one to three, seven four, nine, seven,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred. The Big One another probe by a criminal

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Speaker 2: probe by the FBI into suspected election irregularities, something I've

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Speaker 2: talked about quite a bit, and we are told time

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Speaker 2: and time and time again that, uh, the election of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty was completely above board, safest best election we've

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Speaker 2: ever had. Sources spoke on condition of anonymity because of

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Speaker 2: the secrecy of the grand jury probe. They are talking

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Speaker 2: about FBI agents who are receiving gigabytes of electronic data

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Speaker 2: from Maricopa County about a month after the bureau first

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Speaker 2: disclosed an investigation into election irregularities by rating a warehouse

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Speaker 2: near Atlanta seizing ballots from the twenty twenty election in

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Speaker 2: Fulton County. So now they've got another one going on

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Speaker 2: in Arizona. Subpoena comes five years after the Arizona State

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Speaker 2: Senate conducted a lengthy investigation into the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 2: and concluded there were significant irregularities. And again, there were

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Speaker 2: irregularities in November of twenty twenty four at a warehouse

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Speaker 2: in Arizona where blank and filled out absentee ballots were

1244
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Speaker 2: observed in the same location, according to the sources. So

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Speaker 2: the FBI is looking into that in Arizona and we

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Speaker 2: will see what comes of that. What else, what else?

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Speaker 2: What else? Did you know that the federal government is shrinking.

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01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty thousand federal jobs have been shipped

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01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: out of Washington. Workforce reduction that large cripples most organizations

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Speaker 2: in the private sector. Losing that many positions triggers emergency meetings,

1251
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: halt production lines, sparks panic among executives. Washington, however, keeps

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 2: moving along as if someone merely cleaned out a few

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Speaker 2: old files out of a drawer. Of this piece in

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Speaker 2: PJA media, the federal workforce shrank by three hundred eighty

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Speaker 2: six thousand, eight hundred and twenty six positions during the

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Speaker 2: first year of Trump's second term. Administration. Leaders framed the

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Speaker 2: effort as a long overdue overhaul or overdue correction of

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Speaker 2: decades of unchecked growth inside federal agencies. The work largely

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01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: fell under the Department of Government Efficiency when Elon Musk

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Speaker 2: served as the department's co chair and was tasked with

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Speaker 2: identifying layers of bureaucracy that had quietly multiplied over many administrations.

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Speaker 2: And so this was what was happening on a regular

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Speaker 2: basis under the Biden administration was we kept having these

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Speaker 2: job reports about all these jobs that were created, and

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden loves to go around and talk about all

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Speaker 2: these jobs he created and all the economic activity that

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Speaker 2: was happening under his administration. Well, a huge chunk of

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Speaker 2: those jobs were government jobs. The numbers behind the reduction

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Speaker 2: reveal how large the bureaucracy had become. Roughly three hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventeen thousand federal employees left government positions during twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. About sixty eight thousand new workers entered federal

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Speaker 2: service during the same period, departures far out pacing high

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Speaker 2: across every major agency, Education, Housing, Treasury. The Trump administration

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Speaker 2: effort to reduce staffing across agencies resulted in the loss

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Speaker 2: of more than three hundred and seventeen thousand federal employees

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Speaker 2: thirteen point seven percent decrease. At the same time, sixty

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Speaker 2: eight thousand new federal employees joined the civil service. So

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Speaker 2: has anyone noticed any difference when it comes to government services?

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Speaker 2: Maybe you deal with the government. I fortunately, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I do. And maybe I do, but I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I deal with the government, the federal

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01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: government on a regular basis. I know, I don't go

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01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: to my mailbox looking for a government check or I

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Speaker 2: guess it gets to direct deposited. I mean, I haven't

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Speaker 2: done my taxes yet, so that'll be some interaction I

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Speaker 2: have with the federal government when I do that. But

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Speaker 2: I don't deal with the federal government on a regular basis.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if you're involved with the VA or HUD or

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Speaker 2: one of the other agencies on a regular basis, maybe

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Speaker 2: you've noticed some difference, But I don't know. I really

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Speaker 2: haven't seen it. A piece in the Inquiry Today talking

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01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: about written by Gordon Whittmeyer talking about Latin American players

1293
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 2: on edge as ICE tactics intensify, and he goes on

1294
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: to talk about several Reds players and I guess players

1295
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: across Major League Baseball who are concerned for themselves and

1296
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: their families about ICE activities. And I read this piece

1297
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: and it's it's a little disingenuous.

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01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 4: I think.

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01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 2: As President Trump stepped up immigration and force enters its

1300
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: second year, the violent images involving often masked immigration and

1301
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: custom enforcement agents have left a very specific, very public

1302
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 2: group of Latin Americans in the US bracing for what

1303
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: comes next. Well, why are those immigration and customs enforcement

1304
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: agents wearing masks? Because when they go out and do

1305
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: their jobs, there are those on the left who constantly

1306
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: seek to identify these people, constantly seek to get their

1307
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: identities out there on social media. They seek to put

1308
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: their addresses out there, if their phone numbers, if they

1309
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: can get it, they're family members. It's called doxing. We all,

1310
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 2: we've all heard of doxing. And they want to make

1311
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 2: the lives of these agents and absolute living hell for

1312
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: doing nothing more than a job they are sworn to do.

1313
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: This country gives you an opportunity to change your life

1314
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Redstar Aua Halios Worrez said, now you feel pressured,

1315
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 2: you feel scared because you don't know what's going to

1316
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: happen if you're driving down the highway and somebody stops you,

1317
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: even if you're a citizen. Well, I've talked before on

1318
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 2: this show that if you are a citizen, if you

1319
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: are in the country legally, if you are not out

1320
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: committing crimes, then generally, genuinely you really don't have anything

1321
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 2: to fear.

1322
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 4: But it might.

1323
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,520
Speaker 2: Might you be stopped, might you be asked some questions

1324
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 2: that might happen, And largely in the situations where it

1325
01:14:52,240 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 2: has happened, the individual, after answering a few questions is

1326
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: sent on their way. I don't think we've had very

1327
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 2: very few, and it is less than one percent of

1328
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: individuals who have been detained or arrested or held for

1329
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 2: a time, and then once a few questions are answered,

1330
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: they're free to go. And this whole notion that these

1331
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 2: mass men are coming in the middle of the night

1332
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: and scooping people up and sending them away and they

1333
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: are never seen or heard from again. That is the

1334
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 2: narrative that a lot of people want to get out

1335
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 2: there and want people to believe, but it is simply

1336
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: not true. A Major league players such as Suarez, who's

1337
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 2: from Venezuela, feel fear for their game, their families, their

1338
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 2: own safety at times. With the start of spring training

1339
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 2: across Florida in Arizona, hundreds of major and minor league

1340
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: players from other countries are back in the US to

1341
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: prepare for the season. Training camps kicked off weeks after

1342
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 2: US military action in Venezuela that overthrew Nicholas Maduro and

1343
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 2: the killings by federal agents of two US citizens in Minneapolis.

1344
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 2: The killing of two US citizens in Minneapolis. And so

1345
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: that sentence is right there, when when you read that

1346
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 2: and you see that printed that way, does that put

1347
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 2: that those two incidents in any sort of context whatsoever

1348
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: at all? It doesn't. Is that fair? Is that fair reporting?

1349
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that a fair sentence too? I mean,

1350
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it happened, But why did it happen? Didn't

1351
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: we discuss those two incidents ad nauseum on this radio station.

1352
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 2: Didn't we have a national debate about that for days

1353
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: after these incidents happen, thoroughly dissecting, reviewing the video over

1354
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: and over and over again, and just to throw that

1355
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 2: in there, as if that is a factor of why

1356
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: players who are playing baseball from other countries who are

1357
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: in the United States now should fear this administration or

1358
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 2: fear ice to throw that in there just like that,

1359
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: And to my way of thinking, is is not very

1360
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: good reporting. Teams have addressed the issue in team meetings.

1361
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,879
Speaker 2: Red's president Nick krawl on one of the first mornings

1362
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 2: after the full ostra players had arrived in Arizona, emphasizing

1363
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:09,600
Speaker 2: vigilance and taking precautions as basic as always carrying identification,

1364
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 2: which to me sounds like a good idea. Last thing

1365
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: you want guys to do is be in compromising situations

1366
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 2: that could easily escalate into something it doesn't need to.

1367
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 2: That's another good idea. Be aware of your surroundings if

1368
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: there are agitators who are out and first of all,

1369
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: during all of spring training, during all of the baseball

1370
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: season last season, was there any of this going on?

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Speaker 4: I know?

1372
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 2: He writes. Twice last year, Ice and Customs and Border

1373
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: Patrol agents showed up at Dodger Stadium once in June

1374
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: and the day after the Dodgers World Series parade in November.

1375
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: Dodgers employees denied access to its parking lots. So were

1376
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: these ICE agents there to harass the players, wouldn't they

1377
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 2: have been able to do that quite easily in Arizona

1378
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 2: or in Florida. You know where they're going to be,

1379
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 2: you know when they're going to be there, if you

1380
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 2: wanted to round the And do we have any reason

1381
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: to suspect at all that anyone playing Major League Baseball

1382
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:31,600
Speaker 2: who is from another country is in this country illegally?

1383
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 3: Do we?

1384
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, if this is true, shouldn't

1385
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: we be seeing ICE agents all over the Dave? Where

1386
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 2: are they playing? The what is that? What it is

1387
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 2: that the World Baseball Classic they're playing that? They're playing

1388
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: that in Florida and Arizona. So if there was so

1389
01:19:55,640 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: much harassment going on, if there was, if this was

1390
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 2: such easy pickings for ICE agents and customs and border patrol,

1391
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't they be all over the World Baseball Classic? I

1392
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 2: mean there's multiple teams here from other countries, you got it,

1393
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 2: probably entire rosters in some cases that are made up

1394
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: of players from other countries. If ICE was so hell

1395
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 2: bent on harassing people who didn't don't deserve to be

1396
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 2: harassed wouldn't they be there? Have we seen any as anyone?

1397
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 2: And look, maybe I missed it. I mean I look

1398
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: at stuff all the time. I would like to think

1399
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: that if there was, if this situation was going on,

1400
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: I would have seen some reporting on it. I haven't

1401
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: seen anything on it at all. The Dodgers, who won

1402
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 2: the past two World Series, have one of the most

1403
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 2: internationally diverse rosters in the league, the strongest Latino following

1404
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:11,959
Speaker 2: among MLB fans, more than forty percent of Dodgers attendance

1405
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: and TV viewership as Latin American. Okay, well, that's great that,

1406
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's fantastic. First incident the stadium spurred

1407
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:27,440
Speaker 2: by protests or spurred protests by activists, and later reportedly

1408
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: a reluctance by some fan to fans to attend games,

1409
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 2: at least in part over Dodgers' lack of more vocal

1410
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 2: resistance to the ice activities. As if I'm the Dodgers, No,

1411
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't think of any Major League I

1412
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,879
Speaker 2: can't think of any organization, whether it's baseball, private business,

1413
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: that would want this type of attention brought to what

1414
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 2: it is you're doing. So do you want ice agents there.

1415
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: Do you want to have demonstrations people marching around? Do

1416
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: you want to have confrontations like we saw in Minneapolis.

1417
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: I can't think of any entity that wants something like that.

1418
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 2: So this is a piece that goes on and on

1419
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: and on, and I just think it's kind of filled

1420
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: with sort of misleading statements, obviously incomplete information. Is it

1421
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 2: an issue? I would I have no doubt that there

1422
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: are Major League Baseball players there who are concerned for

1423
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 2: themselves and their families and the reality of the world

1424
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 2: that we live in today. Are these fears a little

1425
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: bit unfounded? Are they hyped up a little bit in

1426
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: this piece? And I think so, But you have to

1427
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 2: look at what's really going on. And once the demonstration

1428
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 2: stopped in Minneapolis, unded up all kinds of bad ombrees

1429
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 2: got him out of there, and we don't see the

1430
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 2: demonstrations anymore. Although the chaos is happening in New York

1431
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 2: City now because you had some want to be terrorists

1432
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 2: who thankfully are not very good at building bombs try

1433
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: and call some mass chaos there earlier this week or

1434
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: over the weekend. I mean, we got to get to

1435
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: a break and after the news here at the bottom

1436
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 2: of the hour, and Jim Suger is going to be

1437
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,440
Speaker 2: here and talk about his new book. It's called Everybody

1438
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: Bunts and Lance mccallister's had a look at it, so

1439
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 2: good for him. But Jim Seuger is always an interesting conversation,

1440
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 2: and I hope you can stick around for that. Dan

1441
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: Carroll for Scott's Loan seven hundred WLW seven hundred WLW

1442
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 2: eleven thirty seven, coming down the home stretch. Dan Carroll

1443
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: in for the Scott's Loan and always great to have on.

1444
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 2: My next guest, local guy graduated from UC spend time,

1445
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 2: spent time in the navy? Is that right? My buddy

1446
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 2: Jim Serger is here, and Jim, how are you doing today?

1447
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 5: Good morning, Dan, baseball is here.

1448
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 2: I know you love baseball season and congratulations. Book number

1449
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 2: ten is out and available, and I think I called

1450
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 2: it Everybody Bunts earlier, but the title is actually everyone Bunce.

1451
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: And you even got a nice little blurb on there

1452
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 2: from Lance McAllister. How about that? How much did that get?

1453
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Lance charges as a high price for that sort of thing,

1454
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 2: doesn't he yes, sir, yes.

1455
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 5: Sir, high price. Actually he got a nice book and

1456
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 5: it was really cool Lance to do that.

1457
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 7: I mean, Lance got a sneak peek of that book

1458
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 7: probably gosh, seven months ago now, So it's special to

1459
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 7: have him somebody you know, that grew up here in

1460
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 7: some of the states where I grew up as a

1461
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 7: young man, and you know, he always talks about baseball

1462
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 7: cards and tradition to baseball and how it.

1463
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 5: Impacts your life and everything.

1464
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 7: And have him do a bourg and then I used

1465
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,839
Speaker 7: to ride our bikes all around the place of Simon

1466
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 7: and Anderson mcnick Turpin, I mean everything. So it was

1467
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 7: really cool, really cool to have him do a bourb

1468
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 7: on the book.

1469
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, yeah, you always this is a fiction book,

1470
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 2: but you always you always have a lot of your

1471
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:25,799
Speaker 2: own life experiences wrapped into just about everything that you do, Yes.

1472
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 5: Sir, Yes, sir. This is a very fun book to create.

1473
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 7: And two reasons why the book came to Fruition was

1474
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 7: one of my good friends.

1475
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 5: Barry Martin.

1476
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 7: His father was a terrific baseball coach for Midland and

1477
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 7: as a young kid playing with records and he was

1478
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 7: also the head coach for a few years in.

1479
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 5: Anderson High School.

1480
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 7: Well, mister Martin played college basketball at Kentucky Wesleyan. He

1481
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 7: didn't play college baseball, he played college basketball.

1482
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,879
Speaker 5: So I was like, this guy's got some great leadership skills.

1483
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 7: And then I got a little bit older and that mcnick,

1484
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 7: Buddy Bell and Ron Oster from the Redsvours coach JV

1485
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 7: basketball at mcnick, Well, they understand leadership, they understand skills,

1486
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 7: they understand the mindset of a coach on and off

1487
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 7: the field.

1488
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 5: So that's how I came up with everyone. But it's

1489
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 5: about a.

1490
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 7: High school baseball coach who does have the background as

1491
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 7: a collegiate basketball coach.

1492
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 5: But in high school you don't have to be the

1493
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 5: best of the best to be a great coach.

1494
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 7: You have to understand the skills on and off the

1495
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 7: field as a manager and then a coach to be

1496
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 7: able to teach the young men how to play ball.

1497
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 7: You have to wear two hats on the field. So

1498
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 7: for about two years I followed Nick Nick Anderson Turkin.

1499
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 7: I saw more games X games playing those guys, and

1500
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 7: I just took notes, took notes of what fans were saying,

1501
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 7: parents were saying, coaches were doing, what the kids in

1502
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 7: the dugowns were doing.

1503
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 5: So they created this fictitious theory.

1504
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 7: And they tied in a lot of stuff that I

1505
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 7: played with that, so I had to put it all

1506
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 7: just like you said, you got to get it all

1507
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 7: in there.

1508
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 4: Dan.

1509
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1510
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 2: I read this on the Amazon page where your book is,

1511
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 2: and you write this, just because you're a baseball coach

1512
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you can teach. Just because you're a baseball

1513
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 2: manager doesn't mean you can coach. All it means in

1514
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 2: both cases is that you have the title. And so

1515
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: that's not only true in the world of baseball, but

1516
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 2: it has I think a bigger meaning throughout the rest

1517
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 2: of really anything you do in life. You may have

1518
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 2: the title. But just because you have the title doesn't

1519
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 2: mean that you can carry out whatever that mission is.

1520
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 7: That's correct, that's correct. I always see it like this.

1521
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 7: Pete Rose could bunt a baseball. If he turned around

1522
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 7: blindfolded and they threw it at him ten feet away,

1523
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 7: Pete Rose would be able to.

1524
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 5: Lay that bunt down.

1525
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 7: Now, how does Pete Rose explain how to do that

1526
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 7: to somebody for the first time? And somebody like Pete

1527
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 7: Rose would take the time to explain it to him,

1528
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 7: and do us run it again.

1529
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 5: Let's run it again. Let's run it.

1530
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 7: Again, because I'm a firm believer as well as everybody

1531
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 7: out there, is what you do in practice represents what.

1532
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,560
Speaker 5: Happens on the field.

1533
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 7: So if you're doing nothing but batting practice, swinging for

1534
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,600
Speaker 7: the fences, well, how are you gonna back up the

1535
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 7: third basement as a picture? How are you gonna lay

1536
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 7: down a.

1537
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 5: Butnt you know? How are you gonna turn a single

1538
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 5: into a double? How are you gonna hit the cutoff?

1539
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 6: Man?

1540
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 7: That's where everyone bunt comes into play. And to be

1541
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 7: a great manager and a coach at the same time,

1542
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 7: you have to be able to explain everything why you

1543
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 7: gotta do this, and just don't take it for granted

1544
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 7: that everybody understands. I have to lay down the bunch

1545
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 7: because a designated hitter can lay down a bunch, and

1546
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 7: a leadoff hitter can hit a home run. Wow, that's

1547
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 7: something special right there.

1548
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, Lance mcallis or put it in words

1549
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,560
Speaker 2: like this, He says, this fictional story made up of

1550
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 2: various situations the author has seen firsthand cuts to the

1551
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 2: core of being a leader on and off the field.

1552
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: And that's what I liked about so many of the

1553
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 2: books that you've written, is that it's great storytelling, but

1554
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 2: that story always has a larger message for just out

1555
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: and for instance, I mean, you're not talking just about

1556
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 2: baseball here. You're talking about life and that part of

1557
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:31,839
Speaker 2: life that everyone can experience whether or not you play baseball.

1558
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 2: And you do that, and you do that a lot,

1559
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 2: and that's what I liked about so many of your books.

1560
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that, Dan, and leadership is so needed.

1561
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 7: It was needed when you were a young man, it

1562
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 7: was needed when my dad was a young man.

1563
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 5: Playing for UC Baseball.

1564
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 7: Leadership is a word that will never ever go away,

1565
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 7: and we need more of that presented down at the

1566
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 7: bottom line. The Little league baseball, the pee wee football,

1567
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 7: we need that in high school, we need it in college.

1568
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 7: Everybody is a line leader, whether you like it or not.

1569
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 7: Everybody's watching you. Everybody's watching it. They don't need to

1570
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 7: know your name, but they're watching you. They see what

1571
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 7: you do, They see what you do after whin, they

1572
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 7: see what you do after a loss. It's how you

1573
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 7: fix that stuff and make it part of your day

1574
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 7: to day operation every day on and off the field.

1575
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,679
Speaker 2: Yes, certain, Yeah, I mean I spent the first hour

1576
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 2: of this show today talking about so many of the

1577
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 2: issues that we are dealing with here in Cincinnati and

1578
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 2: here in Hamilton County, and a lot of those issues

1579
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 2: could be dealt with in a meaningful way if there

1580
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 2: was strong leadership. And I think people, I think especially

1581
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: young people. I think young people crave leadership and they

1582
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:49,480
Speaker 2: will they will gravitate towards that leadership, whether that leadership

1583
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: leads them in a positive direction or a negative direction.

1584
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of a double edged sword.

1585
01:30:55,240 --> 01:31:00,080
Speaker 2: But just the fact that you recognize or you you

1586
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 2: spell that out and you recognize that, and again I'll

1587
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 2: go back to young people craving leadership, but it's also

1588
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 2: I think I think people just in general gravitate towards leadership,

1589
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 2: and that leadership leads in a positive direction. It can

1590
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: it can be extremely beneficial for everyone involved.

1591
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 5: Yes, sure absolutely.

1592
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 7: I remember the first baseball team that I played on

1593
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 7: up there in Mount Washington in.

1594
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 5: The eighth grade.

1595
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 7: I was a good pitcher and the coach, Phil Wilhoyd said,

1596
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 7: I'm going to make you into a catcher, and that

1597
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 7: was the first practice and he threw me behind the plate.

1598
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 5: I got plowed over, I mean plowed.

1599
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 7: My back was against the backstop, and I said, I

1600
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 7: just got plowed over.

1601
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 5: And Phil said, Jimmy, that's going to be a part

1602
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 5: of life. You can't always just sit there and expect

1603
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 5: everything to you.

1604
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 7: Oh it's easy, it's easy, he said, Get up, gust off,

1605
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 7: get back into the catcher stance, and get.

1606
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 5: Ready to go.

1607
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 7: He said, what are you gonna do in twenty years

1608
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 7: when you fall down? You get let's go. And boy,

1609
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 7: he nailed us with those words. Right there, that's the

1610
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 7: solf off, get back up, You'll be fine.

1611
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 5: And it worked out fine. But I had never been

1612
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 5: plowed over as a catcher.

1613
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 2: Well, well, that's just it. I mean that, and that's it.

1614
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 2: But so many people that so many of us love sports,

1615
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 2: those of us who participated in sports, they teach those

1616
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 2: life lessons that will serve you well for the entire

1617
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 2: time you're drawing breath on this planet. And the other

1618
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 2: component of that, I think is is that coaches. The

1619
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 2: influence that a coach can have on the life of

1620
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 2: a young person, and even a person who's not young,

1621
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 2: I still think so, you know, I mean, I spent

1622
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 2: a lot of time with the great Jerryderger when I

1623
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: was at me. Nicholas high school and that and that

1624
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 2: guy influenced my life and I still think about him

1625
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 2: almost every single day and some of the some of

1626
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 2: the life lessons that he taught me back then when

1627
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 2: I when I was bumping around high school with a guy.

1628
01:32:56,520 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 5: Like that, Absolutely and that helped me get some ideas

1629
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 5: into this book.

1630
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 7: He said, Jimmy, the greatest gift that a player can

1631
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:08,280
Speaker 7: give me is ten to fifteen or even a couple

1632
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 7: months later, when they call me up to say thank

1633
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 7: you or just.

1634
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 4: To say hi to me.

1635
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 7: He said, Then I knew I made an impact with

1636
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,280
Speaker 7: them on and off the field, and.

1637
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 5: He nailed it. Yeah, he nailed it.

1638
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 7: I mean that's what every coach, leader, teacher, principal.

1639
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 5: Doesn't matter the title.

1640
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 7: When people reach back out to you years later, you

1641
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:31,440
Speaker 7: impacted their lives.

1642
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 5: And in the moment, most young men and most young women.

1643
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 7: Think that person was being mean or called them out

1644
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 7: or being disrespectful to them in front of their peers.

1645
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 5: And then it isn't for four or five years later

1646
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 5: when they really realized, Wow, that person was actually rooting

1647
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 5: for me.

1648
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 7: They wanted me to do well, and that's why they

1649
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 7: helped me on the spot.

1650
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,480
Speaker 5: And that's true. It's true of anything.

1651
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 7: I mean, the greatest coaches ever never tell you know

1652
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,640
Speaker 7: or embarrass you in the moment when you're young or

1653
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 7: in high they say, hey.

1654
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 5: We're gonna correct it.

1655
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 7: We're gonna show you how to make it better, and

1656
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:07,600
Speaker 7: we're gonna fix it. Not screaming yell at you on

1657
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 7: the spot. No, take the time afterwards and show them,

1658
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,480
Speaker 7: show them, draw it out, use the chalkboard.

1659
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 2: That's true, Jim, Jim serga that that is great stuff.

1660
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 2: One of the other things that that you have done

1661
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 2: is you formed a great partnership with Tunnel to Towers

1662
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 2: and and you've written books about nine to eleven A

1663
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 2: Time to Alreayson. Remember, if I'm not mistaken, you've got

1664
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 2: three different volumes out now of nine to eleven A

1665
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 2: Time to Always Remember. And how's that going, How's how's

1666
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 2: your relationship going with Tunnel to Towers? And it must

1667
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: be extremely fulfilling for you to be involved in a

1668
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:47,720
Speaker 2: project like that.

1669
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 5: Yes, there, it really is.

1670
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 7: You know that all came to fruition And it still

1671
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 7: happens today that I see the time nine to eleven

1672
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 7: at least four or five times a week.

1673
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 5: And that's what rum me to creating those three.

1674
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 7: Books for Tunnel to Towers and it still happens today.

1675
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 7: I could pick up the phone, I talk to them,

1676
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 7: I donate to them. All the books are donated to

1677
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 7: them from my royalties. I mean, we're helping out so

1678
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 7: many folks throughout the United States through Tunnel to Towers,

1679
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:23,280
Speaker 7: from homeless veteran villages, to building a home a smart home,

1680
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 7: to giving away a mortgage free home to a fallen

1681
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 7: military or a first responder.

1682
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 5: It's just amazing what Tunnel to Towers does.

1683
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 7: I mean, hard to believe it's a twenty fifth anniversary

1684
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 7: of nine to eleven coming up here.

1685
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 4: In about seven.

1686
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,280
Speaker 7: To me, it's just it'sn't breaking when people think about it,

1687
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 7: and it goes by so fast.

1688
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 5: Yet I can remember exactly where I was yesterday.

1689
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 7: And I'm sure if you were in New York and

1690
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 7: you live through that in Pennsylvania as well as the.

1691
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 5: Pentagon area, it never probably never goes away to him. Yeah,

1692
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 5: I remember that all the time.

1693
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 7: You know, the smell of pul riized concrete probably general

1694
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 7: it's a cent for a firefighter, something like smoke, what

1695
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 7: have you. And it's just crazy that you know twenty

1696
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 7: five years later, and so many of the firefighters now

1697
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 7: I think it's seven hundred and fifty nine maybe I'm

1698
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 7: misquote that have now perished because of the elements of

1699
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 7: fighting the ground zero. They've actually had more now die

1700
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 7: of illnesses after grounds than the.

1701
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 5: Three hundred and forty three that died that day.

1702
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 7: So that's over a thousand of them have perished because

1703
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 7: of nine to eleven. We always got to remember that,

1704
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 7: you know, just because it was yesterday. It can't be forgotten,

1705
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 7: just because it's like my uncle Chuck was in Pearl

1706
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 7: Harbor December seventh. That was a long time ago for me.

1707
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 7: I wasn't even born yet, but he was there and

1708
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 7: I remember him telling me that story when I was

1709
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 7: about seven or eighty old.

1710
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 5: You've never forgotten.

1711
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 2: It, yeah, absolutely, absolutely don't forget it. Can't forget, man.

1712
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 2: And I always wonder if we if we do enough

1713
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 2: in this country to to remember what happened that day

1714
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: and the consequences that we are still dealing with to

1715
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 2: this day and probably will be for as long as

1716
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 2: this country is around. So, Jim Serger, the book is

1717
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 2: every one bunce. You've got a blur on the back

1718
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 2: there by Lance Macow That alone is probably worth the

1719
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 2: the whatever.

1720
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 4: It is usual.

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01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 2: You know, uh, if if people want to find out

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01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 2: more about you and and everyone Bunce and where they

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01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 2: can not just get this book, but any of your books,

1724
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 2: where do they do that?

1725
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 7: Sure, all books are available anywhere Barnes and you know

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01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:40,640
Speaker 7: Joseph Bath Jim Server dot com. So yes, sir, I

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01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 7: appreciate that. But Lance was terrific, you know sports not right?

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01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, look, if you've got an endorsement

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01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 2: by Lance McAllister, it doesn't get much better than that.

1730
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have clear skies today supposed to be

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01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 2: Sonny in a high about seventy. So that's how you're

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01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 2: gonna You're gonna go out, go out in the yard

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01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 2: and have a toss today.

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01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I would have a toss today, but instead

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01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go out and ride the old bicycle. It's

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01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 7: two nice of the day not to do that. Today's

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01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 7: beautile bit all right, and enjoy go rants opening Gay

1738
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 7: almost two weeks away. So Bearcat baseball is underway. Musket

1739
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 7: baseball underway, and catch some high school baseball games.

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01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 5: Everybody out there.

1741
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 2: Well, bearcats just had had a four game sweep over

1742
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 2: the weekend of Wichita State with a walk off home

1743
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 2: run yesterday. I saw I saw that on my on

1744
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 2: my feet. Jim, we got to run three o'clock, all right, Jim,

1745
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: we got to run. Keep up the great work, my friends.

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01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 5: Have a great day, mister Carroll.

1747
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, Thank you, and we will talk to

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01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 2: you again before too long. But check it out. All

1749
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 2: you got to do is google Jim Siger Books or

1750
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 2: go to Amazon. The book is every one bunts and

1751
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 2: you will see it there. That is it for me.

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01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 2: I got to get out of here. Bill Cunningham is

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01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 2: coming up next, Big Dave the broadcast Sheriff, thank you

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01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 2: for everything you did, and I'll be back again on

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01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 2: I think it's Wednesday night. We're gonna do a little

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01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,640
Speaker 2: midweek crisis on Wednesday night, so I'm looking forward to

1757
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 2: that again. We'll see you next time on the Home

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01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 2: of the Reds seven hundred WLW