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Speaker 1: It's Marcus in the morning. We're doing second date update.

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Speaker 1: Let's say good morning to Bennett. Who's on the phone. Bennett,

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Speaker 1: are you there?

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey man? And now you've reached out for some help.

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Speaker 2: I want to know all about kaya.

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Speaker 1: From what I read from your DM, you guys went

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Speaker 1: to dinner in Redwood City downtown, kind of by the courthouse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right square, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I understand she's ghosted. Let's run through it as always.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the date.

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Speaker 3: I think it went well. It's one of the topest

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Speaker 3: places over there, and we had some good food, like

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Speaker 3: some grilled octopus and stuff like that, and it just

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Speaker 3: felt there was good energy and energetic. And she showed up.

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Speaker 3: She was wearing this like bright red sneakers and a

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Speaker 3: black dress and she owned it. Sure, it felt great,

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Speaker 3: and she reported decisively we had a great time. And

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Speaker 3: I walked into the parking garage thinking, I this is

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Speaker 3: we're getting a second date, and then nothing.

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Speaker 2: Ghost By the way, you sound absolutely defeated right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. You sound like a man who has

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Speaker 2: been on tender way too long.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and this just felt like this felt like

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Speaker 3: something special and I wouldn't be doing this if it did,

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Speaker 3: if it didn't have that sure energy to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me see if I can help you out.

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Speaker 1: What we're gonna do is obviously we'll have you on

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Speaker 1: the line listening muted. I'm gonna call her and get

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Speaker 1: her side of how she thought the date went. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to get you a second date. So so

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Speaker 1: if we can do that, okay, so let's.

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Speaker 2: Let me call her. Go ahead and mute your phone.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll have you listening. This is Kaya, Hi, Kaya,

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Speaker 1: This is Marcus calling from Star one O one three.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm fine?

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Speaker 1: How are you good?

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Speaker 2: I don't suppose you listened to my show? Do you

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Speaker 2: in the morning?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Do you know about second date? Update?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you want to be on it?

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Speaker 4: Is this the thing where you call them after a

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Speaker 4: day or they get ghosted or something? Please don't tell me.

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Speaker 4: Bennett is on the phone right now.

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Speaker 2: Ben, it is on the phone right now. He really

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Speaker 2: liked you. Slight ambush. I know, I know, but it's

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Speaker 2: okay if I bring him on.

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Speaker 4: Okay, fine, Bennett, are you there?

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Speaker 2: I Well, this is gonna be easy. Hey hey girl, Okay, did.

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Speaker 4: You ghost I ghosted.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's get to it. What happened.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, the first half of the night was good at it,

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Speaker 4: But honestly, I just started noticing something strange.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: It's like, every time then it takes a sip of

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Speaker 4: this drink, he makes this like soft humming noise, Like

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Speaker 4: it's not loud, just like hmm, like every sip thankria water.

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Speaker 4: Like even when he tried my drink, he was like, is.

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Speaker 2: It a quick or a long creepy m just long

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Speaker 2: quick okay.

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Speaker 4: But every single time, And at first it's like, okay, fine,

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Speaker 4: he's appreciating the drink, but like, honestly, then I realized

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Speaker 4: it's like automatic and it just distracting. It was the

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Speaker 4: background noise for the whole thing. And I don't know,

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Speaker 4: it's just weird. That's all I could focus on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ben, is this a conscious thing or what's happening here?

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I mean, I like flavor, I respond

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Speaker 3: to it, So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you responded to ice.

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Speaker 3: Water though it was refreshing, But I mean it is unconscious,

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Speaker 3: like it's just a reaction. It's a reflex.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So, like I was sitting across from

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Speaker 4: a commercial to be honest, like.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well being optimistic. We've got some clarity here. He's aware,

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Speaker 1: a little more stuff aware that is not.

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Speaker 4: Even like the moment that feels it like, okay, later

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Speaker 4: in the night, we're just talking getting to know each

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Speaker 4: other about how we decompress and how you know, what

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Speaker 4: we do when we're stressed. And he admitted that when

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Speaker 4: he feels overwhelmed, he sometimes just drives to it in

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Speaker 4: different city entirely. He doesn't tell anyone where he's going.

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Speaker 4: He just leaps, like not forever. Overnight, He'll like book

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Speaker 4: a random motel and he puts his phone on airplane

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Speaker 4: mode and then he resets and disappears.

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Speaker 2: Does anybody know where you go when you do whatever?

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Speaker 2: That is?

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Speaker 4: No, that's the point, okay, I mean like it's so weird,

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Speaker 4: like I and then like what have you done it recently?

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Speaker 3: A couple of months ago? But I mean it's not

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Speaker 3: it's not dramatic. It's just like analogue. It's it's healthy distance.

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Speaker 3: I'm staring at screens, I'm around people all the time.

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to burden people with my with

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Speaker 3: my stuff, so I just.

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Speaker 1: Go quiet yeah, but no, lady's going to stand for

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Speaker 1: you just disappearing, Like that's that's not kai Am I.

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Speaker 2: Wrong on that?

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Speaker 3: It's disconnecting.

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Speaker 4: Uh huh No, if you said disappearing, you're not wrong

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Speaker 4: in that at all. It's look disappearing disconnecting. There is

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Speaker 4: a big difference.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but not everybody needs constant access like I can.

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Speaker 3: I can do that, I can switch that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying people need constant access, but like it's

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Speaker 4: just like I don't want to ever wonder where someone

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Speaker 4: I'm dating is. They just vanish for the weekend, and

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Speaker 4: then like family and friends are like, hey, where's your boyfriend?

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Speaker 4: I don't have any idea. That's so weird.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a little dramatic. And I thought this

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Speaker 3: was going to work out because yeah, I thought it

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Speaker 3: felt good. It didn't feel like you brought anything up

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Speaker 3: at the time, So.

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Speaker 4: I mean it went well until it didn't. It's also

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Speaker 4: a first date, right, Like it's like, Okay, cool, that

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Speaker 4: doesn't work for me, gonna move on, got it?

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Speaker 2: Hang on a sec, you guys. I feel like we

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Speaker 2: could go back and forth on this. Just hold on.

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Speaker 2: The second date, up date