WEBVTT - 10/10/25 - Bengals Pep Rally 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:00.480 Love. 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.440 This is Bengals pep Rally, presented by Just Bairn Chicken 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:08.560 on the Bengals Radio Network Paycre. Paycor is proud to 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.840 be the official hr software provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:17.400 Kettering Health Best Care for the Best Fans. Kettering Health, 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:22.960 Official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. This is ESPN 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:27.400 fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.479 Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the Bengals pep Rally 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.159 Show live from me on the Rhine Eatery here in 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.599 downtown Cincinnati. I'm Dan Hord with Dave Lapham. We are 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.400 here until six o'clock tonight as we get you set 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:44.599 to the Bengals and Green Bay Packers coming up on 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.879 Sunday at lambeau Field beginning at four twenty five in 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:51.920 the afternoon. Linebacker Orren Burks will be our guest later 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.160 in the show. He is going to be here today 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:56.160 from five to six, so if you'd like to get 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.720 an autographed or get a picture, Arren Burkes will be 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.800 our special guest the final hour of our three hour show. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:06.200 Joe Flacco met with the Cincinnati media today for the 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:10.480 first time since Tuesday's trade. We will hear from him momentarily, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.800 but up first on the show this afternoon. My conversation 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.360 with a guy you will hear on the TV broadcast 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:18.360 this Sunday. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:25.160 My son Sam has excellent taste in broadcasters and his 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.360 favorite is not his dad. It's our guest Kevin Harlan, 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:32.200 who will be on the mic for CBS this week. Kevin, 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:35.160 we got quite the plot twist this week with the 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:39.600 Bengals acquisition of Joe Flacco having a Cincinnati assignment this week. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:40.480 What was your reaction? 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:46.440 Stunned? But it makes sense. He knows the division. He 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:51.680 is a quarterback who has seen everything. He's reached the 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:56.560 highest of highs. He's had some difficult moments, but he 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:58.840 continues to go on. You know, Dan, I thought at 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.720 one time that after he had signed the big contract 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.200 with Baltimore and had won the Super Bowl, and he 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.799 I know, he's a family man and all that, and 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.639 I thought, you know, I could see him finding other 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:17.160 priorities in life. I may be wrong in this assumption, 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.840 and while we've interviewed him over the years, I haven't 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.520 seen him much recently. I think his love for the game, 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.720 which has always been there. It kind of feels like 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.280 it's grown the older he's gotten and the more years 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.799 he's piled up on his resume as being an NFL quarterback. 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.160 He's good at it. He's a great locker room influence, 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.680 and if any team was ready to make a move, 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:47.440 it was probably yours. Poor Jake was clearly was struggling, 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.200 and this is maybe shot in the arm and Joe 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.720 gets back in December that this team needs. I mean, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.079 they've got the parts. We all know that. See Lucas 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.600 Patrick is now in that window where he can begin 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.600 to practic this and be good to get him back 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.200 down the road, if not this weekend. But I guess 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.280 my point is is I was thrilled they made them move. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.080 They're not waving the white flag on the season, not 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.520 that they were thinking of it anyway, but this clearly shows, Hey, 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.239 we're in it, We've got the parts. Let's let's let's 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.400 keep let's keep going. We're only two and three. It's 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.000 not like we're zero and five, right, I mean they're 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.760 two and three. They're very in a division which has 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:26.720 no Lamar for a while. We don't know how long 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.720 that will be. You never know wh Pittsburgh's going to 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.600 give you in Cleveland continues to find their way. 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:31.760 Why not? 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.840 I'm it shows aggression and I think every fan would 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:36.560 appreciate that. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.640 Let me take it a step further. Kansas City is 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.800 two and three and playing the Lions this week. The Texans, 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.960 with their division titles the last couple of years, or 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.480 two and three, they go to Seattle this week. The 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.400 AFC in general appears to be wide open, doesn't it. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:56.480 I agree, Dan, you're on it, and I I would 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.240 say that that these are one but that's it's a 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.120 week to week league, and it's clearly a year to 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.880 year league, and teams you think have got every answer 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.040 at every position in every way are stumbling a bit. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:13.480 And now we see that how strong front offices and 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.040 personnel departments can be in trying to, you know, grab 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.039 a stronger hold of the rudder. And clearly the Bengals 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.560 are doing that. Other teams are trying to find their way. 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.000 But it's not what we thought, right. We didn't figure 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.719 two and three Kansas City. We didn't figure a losing 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.599 record with Baltimore, you know, five weeks in. But we're 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.000 seeing it, and I think that it just shows you 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:40.560 that in this league you need you need ingenuity clearly, 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.320 because you've got to handle problems every single day of 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.000 practice and every week. In this league, you've got to 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.240 look ahead and you've got to make sure that you're 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:50.719 making the right moves, not for just now, but also 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.880 you know three weeks from now, but know that that 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.960 you can never give up. And how many times, and 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.159 you've called the league for decades, how many times have 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.320 we gotten into the fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen world And 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.400 teams that were maybe at the beginning of the year 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.360 four and eight or three and five or whatever are 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.800 now like right there with the win, can get in 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.080 the playoffs and make a noise that can be resounding. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:18.760 So I feel like no team is out. But I 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.760 would backpedal here a bit and say I appreciate what 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.560 a team like the Bengals have done. Now, Listen, there 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.559 were a lot of guys out there, probably with different 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:32.000 kind of price points on getting adulton or getting you know, 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:33.800 a backup at this team or that team, And we 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.200 all heard the names over the last couple of days. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.159 If they were so inclined to look. 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:43.239 For a punch, a burst, a spark on offense, green 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.880 Bay did it with Micaeh Parsons. I'm not saying that 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.040 Flacco's going to have that same kind of kind of movement, 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.560 but listen, he clearly brings a different dimension to that 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.320 position with a guy that clearly still wants to play. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:01.800 So I applaud with the Bengals of and I love 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.240 that in the middle of a season, when you think 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:06.960 you've got everything just kind of proportioned the right way, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.080 this happens, or Parsons is traded. And here we have 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.800 those kind of teams, green Bay and Cincinnati meeting this 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.920 week and after making big early season moves. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.680 To their roster. It's so intriguing to me in so 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:20.280 many ways. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:22.520 We're visiting with Kevin Harlan. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.159 Joe Flacco's NFL debut is on opening Day two thousand 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.280 and eight against the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:34.920 Do you remember saying, look at the big man run. Well, 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:36.839 now that you've said it, yes, I do. I do 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.520 remember that, And you know he is. 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:45.919 His career speaks for itself, not in terms of legendary 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.679 Hall of Fame status, but he's won a Super Bowl, 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.719 he's led winning teams, he's proven he can play in 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.920 this league. He surprised people this stage of his career 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:59.560 what he can still do. He's incredibly engaged, and I 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.080 think in the locker room, and this is again nothing 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.920 against who has been starting for Joe, but you're always 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.840 you know, it's never time to bail. It's never time 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.280 to you know, every man for himself, right, it's they 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.640 are right in it in a division that is clearly 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.600 within reach. And this, this is the kind of move 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.840 that I applaud and love. But going back to the 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.400 young Flacco I worked with. I worked at the time, 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.560 not with Solomon Wilcotts you know who you guys know 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.400 well there, but also with rich Gannon, and he went 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:39.160 to Delaware. So I remember those meetings, specifically with a 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:43.360 young Joe Flacco Dan in those production meetings with the Ravens, 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.680 and how he looked at rich thinking, man, if I 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.440 could only, if I could only have a career like 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.720 rich Gannon, super Bowl player, MVP in the league, played 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:58.600 deep into his thirties, had some great runs, and and 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.160 not that he didn't think he could do it, but 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:01.880 he was a young player at the time. And here 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.200 we have him and and he plays then and here 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.640 all these years later, here he is like he's been 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.520 given the keys here to the Ferrari right, Like, I'm 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.840 gonna put the key in and I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.240 feel that engine roar. He's got one side, Jase, He's 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.880 got Higgins on the other. He's got he's got some 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.160 real playmakers on that team. It's gonna be fun, very fun. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.680 There might be a Ferrari commercial in your future based 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:28.920 on that engine. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:32.080 Uh, wrapping up, Let's of. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.240 Any other car I should My son is a Ford dealer. 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.040 I probably should have at Ford anyway. The point is 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.000 is is if there's a new guy with the hands 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.480 on the wheel, and that's that's pretty exciting. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:42.720 I think at the stage of the year. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.600 Let's discuss the Packers. They opened the season with dominant 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.600 wins over Detroit and Washington. One of their offensive linemen 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.199 said we might go undefeated this year, and then they 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.360 lost to Cleveland in Week three. What is your view 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.720 of the Packers and the problems they present for Cincinnati 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:58.120 this week? 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.480 So I do their preseason game, so I've seen him 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:08.360 throughout the summer and this is pre Parsons arrival, and 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:10.880 I thought they were a strong team then and the 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.520 general manager came out Dan and he said the Packers 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.040 and he said, he said, We've got to start thinking 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.600 in terms of championships and not just winning records and 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.640 getting into the playoff. We need to think now in 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.640 terms of championships. And here is an organization that has 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.520 been graced with two straight Hall of Fame quarterbacks and 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.240 Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers, and they really are high 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:37.320 on Jordan Love their quarterback now who is playing well. 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:41.040 But for whatever reason, they took on a red hot 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.480 Dallas team and they faced one of the great defenses. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:44.800 In the league of Cleveland. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.720 We know Cleveland's got the defense and they had the 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.960 Packers number and probably a loss like that early in 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.720 the season was good for them to not think. You know, hey, 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.320 I read what the lineman said, and he was and 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.920 I'm sure they're going, oh my god, don't talk again. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:03.079 Please don't open up mouth. You cannot say in this league. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.600 It is such an unforgiving league. And these are pros 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.800 on the other end, regardless of what record or history says. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.520 These are prideful men and they come out every day 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.120 feeling like I'm gonna be better today than I was 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.000 yesterday and better tomorrow. Than I was today, and they're 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.800 always looking to improve. And the sky in the eye 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.360 never lies. The game is on tape, their performance is 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:28.360 there these There is no you know, like exhaling in 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.720 this league, not until the season has come to a close. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.360 So I knew that when he said that. Oh and 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:37.960 again that Miles Garrett, that defense, those players, and it 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.040 was it was troublesome and they lost a double digit 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.000 lead and they lost the game. So the Packers come 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.960 into this game off of by, you know, and you 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.440 can do the analytics and what teams have done, you know, 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:52.920 pre by post by whatever. I think it's it'll be 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.680 a lot for any team to handle it alone the Bengals. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.760 But now the Bengals have got their own juice, they 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.880 got their own spark, and I think gonna feel really 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.480 good about what they bring in. And they're two and three, 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.480 and I think that that will carry a lot of weight. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.560 So in this league, trying to guess, I don't know 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.040 how these guys and all we do is see betting this, 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.240 betting that red level. I don't know how we know 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.160 everything we can, like you know everything about this game. 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.720 I know, I look at all the numbers. I don't 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.320 know how people can sit there and maybe look at 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.440 a casual or even if they feel they know, can 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.760 figure out what's gonna happen instead of line in these games, 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.839 it's impossible. You never know. You never know in this league, 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.520 and that's what's the beauty of the league. And I truly, 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.839 even as much as you might think the Packers have 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.600 got the answer, you never know, and that's that's the 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:41.240 beauty of the game. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:42.800 Coming up Sunday at lambeau. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.760 Field, did the Micah Parsons trade change your view of 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.920 the Packers' ability to win a Super Bowl title? 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.120 Well, I think it's stunned the league because he's a 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.800 fifth year player at the very height of his powers, 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.160 and its dominant and as forceful a one man guy 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.280 is you're gonna find on any defensive unit in the league. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.400 Like he changes a game. Offenses now tilt toward ever 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:08.400 you know wherever he's gonna be with extra blockers, going 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.920 away with the play call and checking it off at 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:15.040 the line. I think he changes how play to play, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.280 not just series the series or game the game. Like 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:19.760 he like wherever he lines up now that that's a 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.679 red flag. And you've got a great guy that can 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.320 decipher that stuff in Flacu, who just played the Packers 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.520 and won a couple of weeks ago for Cleveland, Like so, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.000 like he knows the recipe right and and so he 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.600 knows this this defense. But I did think that Parsons 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.800 could be like like the missing ingredient. They came in 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.880 Dan to the preseason wanting to strengthen their pass rush, 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:47.520 weren't necessarily satisfied with how they left camp in what 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.240 they were going to again present and made the move 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:55.360 after camp. So he and he's had a dynamite influence. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.480 He's one of the top quarterback pressure guys in the league. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:02.040 He changes the plays, he's everything they want. I think 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.360 he's been a great presence in the locker room. The 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.680 coach the other day just went on and Matt Lafleur 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.320 went on and on about the presence and what he's 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.440 brought and the confidency brings the rest of that defense. 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.440 It helps other positions by just being on the field 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:20.040 and the attention he draws. So but yeah, I mean, 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:21.720 you make a move like that, it's got to be 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.360 That was an earthquake type move. That was a resounding, hey, 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.400 we are in it to win it, Like our GM 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.640 said earlier before camp began, we're thinking in terms of 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.200 championships and not just getting through the division and sneaking 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.760 into the playoffs. We are looking for the very top, 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.960 and by getting a guy like Parsons, they send the 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.960 signal to the players into the league that that's exactly 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:43.679 where they're aiming. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:45.520 We're visiting with Kevin Harlan. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.319 For those who don't know, your dad was an executive 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.320 with the Green Bay Packers. You spent part of your 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.360 childhood in Green Bay. What are some of your fondest 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.800 memories about being around lambeau Field as a kid. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.400 I've got one right off the bet that I've told 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.199 a couple of times already this week. When I was 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.520 a ball boy for the Packers in the early seventies 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.880 and we'd have our lunch break during training camp, I 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.720 would sneak up the stairs into the press box at 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.880 lambeau Field, the old lambeau Field, and go in the 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:19.120 break the broadcast booth of the radio network. It didn't 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.880 matter which close the door, and do imaginary games in 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.080 my head when I was like eleven and twelve years old, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.320 and then when I got to actually broadcast when I 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.760 was thirteen, fourteen years old at our high school radio station. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.120 Would go in there even more and practice these imaginary 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.160 games in lambeau Field in a broadcast booth onto an 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.440 empty field and a and not a soul could be 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.920 seen in the bowl of lambeau Field. And that's where 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.040 I would do these imaginary games out loud where no 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.200 one could hear me. And I did that for many years. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.320 We'd go up there. I'm sure that head there been 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.880 a cleaning person up there, someone that was getting something 0:14:55.920 --> 0:15:00.040 in the press box would maybe listing what's going on 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.440 on there, like who, And it never happened. I was 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.120 never caught, but it would always sneak in and get 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.840 in and shut the door and do these games for 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.960 like a half hour and just and here I was 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:16.120 eleven twelve years old broadcasting in lambeau Field. And then, 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:20.400 as luck would have it, and as the great fortune 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:24.040 that has been bestowed upon my career would lead me 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.920 to do games, and lambeau eventually do their preseason games 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.520 as I've done since two thousand and three, done multiple 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:36.200 championship games there, Monday night football games, and a lot 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.240 of Fox and CBS games there. So I'm living out 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.600 a dream every time I'm in that stadium doing a game, 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.160 and now I've got my family in the seats right 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:49.200 below me. W're season ticket holders. And my dad was 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.000 there for thirty seven years and he was the one 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:57.160 who hired Holmgren, hired Ron Wolf, was in the room 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.800 when they made the trade to get Farve, made the deal, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:05.240 signed Reggie White, drafted Rogers, hired Mike McCarthy. So he 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:10.280 was there dan hiring two Hall of Fame Super Bowl 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:15.640 winning gms, two Super Bowl winning coaches, and two Hall 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:20.440 of Fame quarterbacks. He was in that room when those 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.320 decisions were made, and as president and CEO, the buck 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.880 always stopped with him. So you could have a clever 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.760 GM or coach or whatever personnel guy say hey, we 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.960 should do this, but at the end of the day, 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.800 he had to approve it, and he did. And so 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.400 we're most and he's still alive. He's eighty nine, My 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.760 mom is eighty seven. They live in Green Bay, is 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.400 a five minute drive from lambeau Field, so they're they're 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.880 very much with it. By the grace of God, their 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.200 health is good enough. They still get it, and they 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:50.960 watch games and they enjoy it. Like a lot of 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:51.360 fans do. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.920 One of the things I admire about you is that 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.360 you don't rest on your laurels. Are you on a 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.520 never ending quest to improve as a sports broadcast? 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.320 Well, like you, we have a same I think spirit 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.680 in this business. Dan, As your accolades would say that 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.720 if you do rest and exhale, there are younger broadcasters 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:18.160 that are just salivating to be in our seats. Right 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.320 is the voice of a team. You're a voice of 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:23.119 a major college and an NFL team. There are not 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.000 many of those guys in the business. You're one of 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.359 them and have done it so well for so many years. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:31.040 And so I never take this job lightly. And I 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.320 think it goes back because it's not that we're scared 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.120 or we're frightened about what might be. It's that we 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:41.240 enjoy the process of getting better. So, like you, I 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.960 listen to my games, I critique my work. I feel like, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.359 you know, I could do that better, I can improve 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.360 in this area or whatever. And I like that challenge. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:52.919 It keeps your mind going and evolving in the right direction. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.080 There'll be a day when I'm sure, speaking for myself, 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.480 that I say, you know, I don't know that I've 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.960 got the love of the business that I once had 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:03.760 to want to get better. Let me, let me just 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:05.160 get in there and just do the game and then 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.840 move on to the next. I really don't look at 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:12.200 it like that. I think I'm a part paranoid, part scared. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.320 I feel like I'm young enough that I've still got 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.240 a lot of good years ahead of me. But I 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.120 want to make sure that I don't when that day 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.879 comes that I do leave that I'm not I'm not 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.720 regretting not putting in the work necessary to be up 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.639 to date. Let me tell you, I don't know what 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:31.280 you think, but I'm watching when we do these games, 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.840 like the offenses have never moved faster, There's never been 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.760 more no huddle, there's never been more sub packages coming 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.120 in and staying on top of that in a game 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:41.960 from way up into the press. That's a hard thing 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.840 to do. It's hard, and I do it on radio 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.600 and on TV. Both they're different ways of looking at it, 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.080 but the same thing is, Man, you've got to pay 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:53.119 attention and you've got to make sure that you go 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.800 into these games prepared. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:56.760 So I'm scared. 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.280 I read I read a quote by Scully one time, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.720 the great legendary Dodger broadcaster who said, fear drives me 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.560 a lot. I never want to let my listeners down. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.000 I never want to let myself down by not being 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.639 fully prepared, but into the game and staying ahead of 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.280 the posse, in other words, making sure that they find 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.639 no reason to really attack my work. And that's what 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.880 kept him going. And I read that as a young broadcaster. 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:22.840 I said, that's a good model to live by, and 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:23.439 so I kind. 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.160 Of have that totally rings true. Leave it to Vin 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.640 Scully to nail it. Final question for Kevin Harlan. I'm 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.760 sure you've heard this one before, but I've never heard 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:36.000 your answer. If you could call a sporting event that 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.679 you've never had the opportunity to do and probably won't 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.879 have the opportunity to do, what would it be. 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.240 Well, I've had the chance a couple times to do 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.240 Major League Baseball. When I was in my twenties and 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.840 doing the University of Missouri and the Chiefs on radio 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.560 Saturday Sunday back to back like you do with the 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.840 Bearcats and the Bengals. There was an opportunity in my twenties, 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.720 newly married with our first child, to do Cardinal Baseball 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:05.440 with Jack Buck and Mike Shannon on KMOX and drove 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:07.400 in there and did a practice game, and they heard 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.320 the tape and they liked it, and it was there, 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:14.040 and I chose not to My dad, before he became 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.639 the president of the Packers, was with the Saint Louis 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:20.680 Baseball Cardinals and was the pr director back in the sixties. 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.280 And he got out of baseball because it wasn't he 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.840 thought he loved the job. It was a great job, 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.160 but not for a family man. It's a hard job 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:30.320 if you're a family man and are away from your 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:32.080 family that one hundred and sixty two games and away 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.240 from your family and all that, and every day, and 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.920 during the great summer months where you know, vacations are 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:41.440 gone now and so all that. So when he got out, 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.440 you know that I remember the decision process he made, 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.679 and my wife and I made the decision not to 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.560 do baseball, And then had a chance with the Red 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.520 Sox not too long ago to be involved in their 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:56.200 broadcasts and chose not to do that. But to answer 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:59.120 to the question if I could on radio doing play 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:03.000 by play, the great broadcasters in our business have some 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.760 kind of a baseball background. And when I talk to 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.480 young broadcasters, they say, do a lot of radio baseball 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.800 because it will help you develop voice and pacing and 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.280 reporting and all these things that we need to be 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.040 whether you do basketball or football. If you can do baseball, 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:18.440 I think you can do the other sports. 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:19.760 And I do. 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.040 And it's great for delivery development and voice development and 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.800 cadence and all those things. But doing a game on 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:31.560 radio baseball on radio some random Wednesday night, maybe in July, 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.960 and describing as the shadows are growing, as the sun 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:38.800 is setting, and describe because you've got time between pitches 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.719 to describe what's going on. In football, man, you got 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.560 doing doing doing doom and in basketball, so like you're 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.239 constantly just trying to keep up with the action. But 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:50.000 the one thing on radio that makes it so great 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.480 is when you can paint the total picture and you 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.159 can hear the popcorn guy in the stands that reaches 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:58.040 that microphone or or or you can see a movement 0:21:58.080 --> 0:21:59.680 of a shortstop a little bit more to the left, 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.880 a bit more to the right. And I remember reading 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.720 one thing about Red Barber and how he when he 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:10.080 was broadcasting the Brooklyn Dodgers, which was describing a rainstorm 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:14.600 that he could see building over left Field, over Brooklyn, 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.280 and how it was moving slowly toward Ebbett's Field, and 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.760 how then that there were rain drops, and how and 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.119 how the rain drops on the on the bill of 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.159 the cap of pee Wee Reese, he could see the 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.480 drops and he could see the wind picking up in 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.240 the dust blowing off the mound. And I thought, Man, 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:34.920 I like, those those are moments that just there. If 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.000 you saw it, it wouldn't resonate, but when you hear it 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.600 in the theater of your mind, it just builds this 0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:43.000 great picture. And I thought, that's what I wanted to do, 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.840 and that's where I got my love of radio, which 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:49.359 I do every Monday night. I and there's not a 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:51.639 lot of time to describe that kind of stuff, but 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.080 when there is, and when you can describe it, I 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.120 think those calls, your call of a Joe Burrow touchdown, 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:01.080 those calls if you listen to him driving by yourself 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.000 an I seventy five or wherever you may be, like 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.080 they stick in your head, like you can almost picture 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.240 it more here than you could if you saw it 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.600 with your own two eyes. So I love the challenge 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.000 that radio brings, and that that's where my love of 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.040 doing radio baseball, I think would be and long answer 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.240 to your question, and I'm sorry, but that's I love 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:24.399 those I love those challenges of creating the people's minds, 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:26.720 that that vision where they can see at the theater 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:28.919 of their mind, what happened, what kind of catch, what 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:31.000 kind of ground ball was grabbed, you know, what kind 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:32.080 of jump shot was taken? 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:33.320 Where it was on the floor. 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:36.399 Those things, to me, that's why get into broadcasting, the 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:40.480 challenge of doing that the right way. 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.240 You are listening to the Bengals pep Rally Show presented 0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.560 by Just Bared Chicken. We are live at the on 0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:48.800 the Rhyane Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. Dave Lapham and 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.840 I are here until six o'clock tonight. From five to 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.760 six we will be joined by Bengals linebacker Oron Burke. 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:56.879 So if you would like to meet Oran, get a picture, 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.320 get an autograph, you can do so today here at 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.440 the On the Rhine Eatery at the intersection of Court 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:06.200 and Walnut. It is the food hall above the downtown Kroger. 0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.639 You can park in the three c DC garage. You're 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:13.120 fine street parking again. It's the on the Rhine Eatery 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.200 at Court and Walnut. We're going to take a time out. 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.560 When we come back, you will get to know the 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.199 person under the pads. It's this week's fun Fact segment 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:27.720 and it's coming up next Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.320 Daneld and Dave Lapham with his view this afternoon from 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.240 the on the Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. It's 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.879 the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just Faired Chicken. 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.679 Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. We're getting you ready for 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.760 the Bengals and Packers coming up on Sunday at Lambeau Fields, 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.800 beginning at four to twenty five on Sunday afternoons. Still 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.920 to come. On today's show, and we're here until six 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.280 o'clock tonight. You will hear from quarterback Joe Flacco, he 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:58.800 met with the Cincinnati media for the first time earlier today. 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:02.280 We'll also hear from off into line Marius Mims on 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:07.040 the difficult challenge of trying to block Micah Parsons. Right now, 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:11.040 it's time for this week's Fun Fact segment, presented Skyline. 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:15.440 Chilly time for some fun facts with rookie linebacker Barrett 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:20.399 Carter born in Chicago but raised in Swanee, Georgia, near Atlanta. Barrett, 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.640 I read an interview where you said, all I want 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.040 to do in life is make my parents proud. 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:27.359 Tell us a little bit. 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.919 About them, what they did or do for a living, 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:32.439 and what you admire and respect so much about your folks. 0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:33.200 Yeah. 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:38.639 So my mom, she's an interior designer. Slash do it 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.640 all mom, slash everything Mom, she really does it all. 0:25:42.720 --> 0:25:47.320 But she's an interior designer, helps, you know, design people's houses, 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.280 and you know, people will just hire her and you know, 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:52.480 give her money and tell her, you know, just make 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:53.200 my house beautiful. 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:53.880 And that's what she does. 0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.720 Then my dad, he's a financial advisor, a wealth manager. 0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.600 So he's really my personal financial adviser. So it's good 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:04.280 to keep that in house. But what I really love 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:07.240 and admire most about them is just how supportive they are. 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:11.480 Like with my sister and I, they really just let 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:13.600 us figure our own lives out. Like they didn't force 0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.760 us to do anything. They just said, if y'all want 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.240 to go run through a brick wall, then we're gonna 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.960 support you, like wholeheartedly, with no no doubts, and just 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:24.800 they just let us figure out our own lives out. 0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.800 That's just what I love and admire so much about them, 0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.120 and I hope that I can be half as good 0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.680 as parents as they were to my sister and I. 0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.520 So they're the best older or younger sister older, she's 0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.520 six years older. How old am I twin two? Yeah, 0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:41.000 she's six years old. I have to do that math 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.199 every time, but yeah, she's six years older. 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.080 I do the same with my older sisters. When did 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.280 it become clear that you stood out among your peers 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:49.960 in sports? 0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:50.760 Hm hmm. 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.600 I would say my eighth grade year in football. 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.160 Like I played football just always because it was so fun, 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.200 and I was also like the biggest one on the field, 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.240 so I was just I guess I was naturally I 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:05.320 don't want to say the best, but I was pretty good. 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.719 But then my eighth grade year, I was just I 0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.480 was pretty dominant and that after that year, it just 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.560 really showed me that I can maybe do something with this. 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.560 And fast forward to my freshman year, I got my 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:18.560 first scholarship offer and I was like, wow, like this 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.520 is really like what I've been working towards every single day, 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.879 and I was like really becoming a reality and that 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:26.359 really just made me work even harder just to not 0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.000 just or to just keep stacking offers and just keep 0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:31.399 getting more attention from colleges. So I would say, in 0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:32.800 my eighth grade and then going to my. 0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:35.840 Freshman year, I know you played offense early in high 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:40.479 school and then got switched to linebacker, and reportedly you 0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:44.760 were devastated by the change. Have you grown to love linebacker? 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.040 I have, and it was I literally wanted to quit football. 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.199 But the next day when I got I switched, I 0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.960 was running back receiver. I switched the linebacker, and I 0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.480 was almost quit football. Then the next day I got 0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.680 my first scholarship offer. So I mean, the Lord works 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:02.359 in mysterious ways. But I've grown to love this side 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.960 of the ball so much, and I love how. 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:05.399 How hard it is. 0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.399 Like you know, I'm not saying playing offense is easy, 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:09.960 but you know, when you ain't playing defense, you have 0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:12.240 to react to whatever the offense is doing and you 0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.159 don't know what they're running, and all you can do 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.560 is go off of your preparation, your studying and your 0:28:16.600 --> 0:28:19.400 film and just you know, just your God given ability. 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.639 But I love that defense, that challenge and how precise 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.720 you have to be and how on point you have 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:26.880 to be with your keys, and I embrace that challenge. 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.680 So I wouldn't I wouldn't change my path and I 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:31.000 wouldn't want to have it any other way. 0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:32.320 So I love the side. 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.840 Of the ball playing linebacker. You attended North Quinn at 0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.240 high school. That's the alma mater of a Bengals fan 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.960 favorite tight end, CJ Uzama. Did you hear about CJ? 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.320 From coaches and teachers and have you ever. 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:44.520 Met I don't. 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.760 We've met before because he came in and spoke to us, 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.840 but like surprisingly, we actually lived in the same neighborhood. 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.840 We lived in the same neighborhood back in Georgia, but 0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.400 just growing up in Swanee, you always heard that name, 0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.360 and you know, you always wanted to strive to be 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:58.640 like those older guys. 0:28:58.360 --> 0:28:59.640 Who paved the way. 0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.560 And I just have so much respect for him is 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:04.600 what he did in the league and how he always 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:06.840 came back to his community and just gave his time, 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.160 his knowledge, and his wisdom back. And you know, I 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.840 hope that I can be something like that and more 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.840 just keep giving back what was instilled into me. So 0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.800 CJ will always be a legend in my eyes, a 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.400 big brother and you know, a great a great man 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:20.960 to look up to. 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.800 You were one of the top linebackers in the country 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.560 your senior year of high school. You could have gone anywhere. 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.520 Where did you visit? Who I visited? 0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:37.200 Clemson obviously, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, and Ohio State. 0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:39.360 So those were like. 0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:43.680 My final final five, and I ultimately chose Clemson just 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.320 because it was the right fit for me. You know, 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.719 I was looking for a place where I can you know, 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:49.520 grow in all areas of life and you know, not 0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.160 just talking about football, but all areas. And you know, 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.720 I can truly say I walked into Clemson aboard and 0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:55.720 I came out of man. 0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:57.560 And that's all that I was looking for. And you know, 0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.280 the football stuff is going to handle itself. 0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.840 But so what I did, what I was able to 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.960 compensatere was is a blessing and I wouldn't trade those 0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:07.360 four years for the world. But yeah, those are those 0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.080 are my finalists. And the place that I was visited. 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.480 It certainly worked out well. You were in some great 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.640 teams at Clemson. Your team made it to the College 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.640 Football Playoff last year. What was the best part of 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.400 your overall college experience. 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:22.560 I'll say, I'll give one on the field and won 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.600 off the field. I'll say this is going to be surprising. 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.960 My junior year, at worst, we were four and four, 0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.840 Like at one point, we were four and four throughout 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.240 the year. And if you know anything about Clemson, anything 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.720 about their fans, they're very passionate about that team, and 0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.640 being four and four in Clemson is not not a 0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.720 sweet place to be. And so I would say finishing 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.840 off that year and winning the Gator Bowl in the 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.320 way that we won it, like it was just special. 0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.360 And I cried after that game. 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.680 I cried after we won the Gator Bowl and it 0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:52.959 was just such a special win for you know, we 0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:54.680 were four and four and we rallied and we finished 0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.320 off the season nine and four, and it was just 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:59.040 carry so much momentum to the next year. So that's 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.400 on the field, and then off the field, I'll say 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.840 graduating just because after my junior year, I was unsure 0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:06.680 if I was gonna leave or go or come back, 0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.320 and it was a really tough decision weighing on my heart, 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.560 and I decided to come back and I finished, and 0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.720 I set out that was my goal to graduate be 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.440 all American, be a team captain. 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:16.880 And that's what I did. 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.840 And so I came back and I graduated, and that 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:21.280 was such a big accomplishment for me. 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.920 Since twenty twenty, college football players have been allowed to 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.320 wear the number zero. You were the first player to 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:28.080 do it at Clemson. 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:29.200 Was that a big deal to you? 0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:33.480 Honestly, I didn't realize it was a big deal until, 0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:37.320 like I got to Clemson, because I committed to Clemson 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.520 and I texted coach Shwiny, like what single digit numbers 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.160 do y'all have available? Because I were number one in 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:43.760 high school, so it was just what I was used 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.600 to and now he said zero's only thing. I was like, 0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.520 all right, let's do it. And then I get to 0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:51.440 Clemson and like they had there, like you said, there 0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.560 was no zeros before, and then I was the first 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.080 one and all like that's like all forever being history 0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:56.960 just because. 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.400 I'm the first number zero. So it was special. 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.600 And I hope that you know that's just a legacy 0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.880 at Clemson, just for decent players to wear that number 0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.600 and just keep carrying on that tradition. So I hope 0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.239 that you know that's that's that's gonna become a thing 0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:10.760 at Clemson. 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.560 We're chatting with Barrett Carter. You were a fourth round 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.080 picking this year's draft. Describe the moments leading up to 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:19.680 the pick and then the feeling you got when the 0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:20.200 phone rang. 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:25.520 The most stressful, nerve wracking time of my whole life, 0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:29.720 because the whole process is so like you don't know anything. 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.120 Like you can you can get all these predictions, you 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.320 can talk to your agents and acts like what are 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.320 they saying whatever, But until you get the phone call, 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.080 you don't know what's going on in that draft room. 0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:43.040 So I mean, i'd be lying to you if I 0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:44.480 told you all if I thought I was gonna go 0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.360 fourth out. I thought I was gonna go earlier. But 0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.000 you know, the lower makes no mistakes. And you know, 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.120 when I got that phone call, it was the best 0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.640 thing in the world. Just all the weight on my 0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:56.160 shoulders were just completely lifted, and I was like I 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.880 was immediately just like, let's get to work. Like I 0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.640 cried so much much Friday night because I didn't get 0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.440 my name called, and I was pissed off and I 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.480 was just so much, so many different emotions. But when 0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:10.920 I saw I think it was a five one three 0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.040 area code's Yeah. So I saw the five one three 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.000 and I saw Cincinnati. I was like, let's do it, Like, 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.080 let's get to work, and I was just ready from 0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.440 that moment on and I'm just ready to just leave 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.120 my leave my marketing in Cincinnati. 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:22.520 All right, a few. 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.120 Wild card topics to wrap things up. It looks like 0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.680 you did a ton of community service when you were 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:30.040 at Clemson, particularly with schools. 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.440 Why I remember, I was, you know, that little kid 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.960 and seeing the older athletes come in and read to 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.480 us and spend time with us, and I just thought. 0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.200 That was the coolest thing because I was, I was, 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:41.200 I just admired that. 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.680 I admire that, you know, they took the time out 0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:44.680 of their day when they could have. 0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.920 Been doing anything else and they came to spend time 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:47.240 with us. 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.080 And I made a promise to myself, like when I 0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.840 get to that, when I get to that age, I'm 0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:54.920 gonna get back and I'm gonna I'm gonna be that 0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:57.520 figure that those kids look up to and those kids love, 0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:00.920 and you know, whatever it may be, but it's just 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.760 a it's a promise that I made to myself, just 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.160 I'm gonna give back my time. I'm gonna get back 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.400 to nowe I was instilled into me and I'm gonna 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:08.080 I'm gonna do that for. 0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:09.560 Us rest of my life. 0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:15.800 If you could swap jerseys with any player in NFL history, 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:18.359 who are you swapping jerseys with? 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:21.480 Probably ray Lewis. 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.280 Just he's someone that I grew up just admiring and watching, 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.799 especially when I switched the linebacker, Like a big thing 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:33.360 for me was the mindset and like the mentality that 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.000 you have to have to play that position. 0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.239 He's just epitome of that. 0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.879 Like he's he doesn't matter who you are, He's gonna 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.440 go after you and try to try to hunt you. 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.280 So I would say ray Lewis. 0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.880 And I actually talked to him last last year in 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.759 the summer. Coach Sweeney put me on the phone with him, 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.120 and it was I was just so starstruck. I didn't 0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.200 know what to say. But he's someone that I grew 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:54.880 up Washington and grew up admiring. So I would say 0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:55.560 ray Lewis. 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:56.279 All right. 0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.160 Final fun fact for Barrett Carter. This one's kind of deep. 0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:03.799 If you could meet anyone in history, living or deceased, 0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:05.680 who would that person be? 0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.080 I would say, I have two, so I have to 0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.760 give an athlete and a non athlete, I'll say Lebron 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.840 James because that's just that's my that's my guy. I 0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.080 grew up watched, Yeah, Lebron for sure. Lebron James and 0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:22.200 Denzel Washington. He's my favorite actor. I just watched both 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:26.440 or all three Equalizer movies and that just made me 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.680 love him even more so. Lebron James and Denzel Washington. 0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.160 Denzel is so good, so good, so good, the best. 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.440 Not that Lebron isn't. But I'm really with you and Denzel. 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.520 You can't go on with either, so I'll say those two. 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.080 This has been great. Really appreciate your time. Best of 0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:43.880 luck the rest of the year. 0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:45.080 Yes, say thanks for having me. 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.040 You are listening to the Bengals Pepper Ally Show live 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:51.120 from the on the Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. 0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.760 Dave Lapham and I are here until six o'clock tonight. 0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.680 We're obviously having some minor technical problems. We'll have that 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.799 ironed out shortly. In any case, if you'd like to 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.759 come out and meet Orrin Burks, the Bengals linebacker, will 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.399 be our special guest. Between five and six, we are 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.879 headed to Lambeau Field on Sunday. It'll be the first 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.719 time the Bengals have played there in eight years. The 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:14.960 last time they faced the Packers in Green Bay, it 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.239 was a great game, but the Packers won it in 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:22.719 overtime thanks to the heroics of their then quarterback Aaron Rodgers. 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.279 Jerry Montgomery was on the coaching staff back then for 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:28.759 Green Bay. He's a Bengals coach now and I'll talk 0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.960 to him next. This is the Bengals pep Rallley Show 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:42.080 presented by Just Fair Chicken on ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks 0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.640 for tuning in to The Bengals pep Rally Show presented 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.960 by Just Their Chick In We are at our Friday 0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:50.799 afternoon home, the on the Rhine Eatery, the food hall 0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:53.920 above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut. We're here 0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:56.359 until six o'clock tonight. We will be joined in the 0:36:56.360 --> 0:37:00.279 final hour of the show by Bengals linebacker and SPED 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:04.040 team's eighth Orrin Burks. We've got the Bengals and Green 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:07.360 Bay Packers coming up on Sunday in Green Bay, beginning 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:11.200 at four to twenty five. It's a relatively rare meeting 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:15.080 between these two teams they've only played fourteen times over 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.719 the years. Since Annattie has won seven, the Packers have 0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:22.120 won seven. The Bengals actually have three wins in Wisconsin, 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:25.960 but only one of those wins was at Lambeau Field. 0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.560 The bengals other two victories on the road against green 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.360 Bay were in Milwaukee. The Packers used to play a 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.960 few of their home games every year in Milwaukee. The 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.280 Bengals have a coach who knows all about green Bay, 0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:42.080 and I spoke to him, defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:43.200 earlier this week. 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.520 Jerry, you are a Packers assistant coach for nine years. 0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.080 Now you are going back to Lambeau It can't be 0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:51.840 just another game for you. 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:53.840 Is there anything in particular you're looking forward to? 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:54.960 You know what? 0:37:55.600 --> 0:38:00.240 Being there for nine years I have When I say friends, 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:04.319 they're like family, meaning there's still guys there that I 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:07.040 work with, but more importantly, our kids grew up there. 0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.400 So we have a cabin in Eagle River, Wisconsin. We 0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:14.279 will always call that home now regardless of where we 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:19.080 live at. So it'll be great to see all of 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:22.879 my neighbors and friends. And then you know what's cool 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.160 is my son is getting his first collegiate start at 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:29.040 linebacker against the Badger Saturday night. So I'm gonna try 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.360 to sneak out and get to that game. So he played, 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.840 you know, they went to the state championship and he 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:37.799 played in Madison. Now he's getting his first start in 0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:41.080 Madison against Madison. So yeah, so we'll have a lot 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:43.719 of friends all week in to see. I've only been 0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.279 to Lambeau once. That's when the Bengals played there eight 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.239 years ago. It's a bucket list type experience for me. 0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.160 When you work there every day, do you feel the 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.960 history and do you feel like it's a big advantage. 0:38:56.040 --> 0:39:00.600 You definitely feel the history. It's an unbelievable place to 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:07.160 work and unbelievable place to play a football game. You 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:10.200 walk through the tunnels and you feel it. It's neat 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:14.120 even practicing there. There's an air about it. So and 0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.520 what's cool is when you pull in and you see 0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:19.080 now it's a little different now because people have tore 0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:22.239 down those homes and built massive places across the street. 0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:26.880 They're big tailgate places. But it's just it's a really 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:31.839 neat environment. It's probably as close to college environment as 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:36.160 you'll feel in most places. But yeah, neat venue, a 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:38.040 lot of history and cool place. 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.120 Green Bay is the smallest market in the US that 0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.359 has a professional sports team. It's a city of about 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.640 one hundred thousand people. As a Packers player or coach, 0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:48.920 do you feel like you're in a fish bowl a 0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.800 little bit just because there's such a spotlight on the Packers? 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.319 I would say, you know, maybe for a player. As 0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.200 a coach, I'd say no. I think people are very welcome, 0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:04.160 the welcoming, and they treat you as one and especially 0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.439 if you're a normal person, if you you know, there's 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:10.640 not too many people that walk around meaning you know, 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:12.960 and think that they're better than you. So when you 0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.040 act like that, that's when you stand alone. But for 0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.160 a player, I could see people knowing who you are. 0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:20.640 But I think those guys, you know, it's Milwaukee's two 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:24.120 hours away, Chicago's three hours away, So. 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.520 We're visiting the Bengals defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery. Let's 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.560 talk defense. Seems a little odd to say, maybe after 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.840 the opponents scored thirty seven points, But I thought the 0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.239 defense played pretty well last week against the NFL's number 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:39.040 one offense. You forced five punts. Nobody's forced more against Detroit. 0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:41.120 You got to take away in the game, what was 0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.000 good last Sunday, what wasn't up to your standard. 0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:49.799 We're taking the right steps each and every week. You know, 0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.520 they were average and I don't know if it was 0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.480 like four point nine or five something or carry. And 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:57.160 if we don't give up the one big run, we 0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:01.080 keep them below two, below three, we give up the 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:01.919 one big one. 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:02.319 You know. 0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:07.719 So like we're building a mindset and a culture from 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:11.799 a run game a standpoint, and you know, you got 0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:12.320 to earn. 0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:13.080 The right to pass rush. 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.799 And so I think those guys, we're doing that and 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.239 we're getting in them some longer down in distance, more 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:19.600 than they've probably had all year. 0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.080 But you know, so it starts there. 0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:26.239 So you're just building a culture and identity and you know, 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.880 guys are playing hard. No one's quitting. You know, we 0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:34.160 got to eliminate the mistakes that are happening. And it's football. 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.080 Things are gonna happen. It's just like, you know, you 0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:39.960 can't let them compound. But we're heading in the right direction. 0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.960 We're nowhere near where we're going to be, but you know, 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.680 hopefully people are seeing the change and the guys are 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:47.600 working extremely hard. 0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:51.759 One negative has been opening drives opponents have scored touchdowns 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.120 in for the first five games. Has there been a 0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.960 common denominator? Is there something that stands out on those 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:57.680 opening drives? 0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.080 We talk about that every day. 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:03.640 I don't know if it was Cleveland and then Minnesota, 0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:07.640 but you know, you got penalties that extend drives. One 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:11.839 of those drives, there was three or four third down penalties. Uh, 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.680 some you know are questionable, but like, if you know, 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.080 we can eliminate some of those things. We're off the field, 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.640 you know, but uh, once the guy's settled down, it's 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:24.919 it's been you know, pretty good and then then there's 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:27.840 a hiccup. Right, But you know, I think if we 0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:31.319 can eliminate the mistakes h and play fast and then 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.480 tackle and open field, uh, I think we're gonna you know, 0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:35.919 be better and improve each week. 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.799 Let's discuss some individuals. Trey Hendrickson had two sacks last week. 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.200 He's got four in the first five games. It's your 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.120 first year coaching him. What stands out? 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:48.160 Yeah, it's it's important to him, you know, he he 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:52.400 wants to learn about, you know, the offensive line and 0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.719 what they're doing. You know, he's he's invested in in 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.920 playing the run, and you know, he knows, like, you 0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.640 can't get to third down if you can't stop the run. 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.839 And so I think he's really putting an emphasis on 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:09.480 those details. But like, you know, it's important to him. 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:11.439 You talk about a guy that comes in, he takes 0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.920 care of his body, he watches film, he studies his opponent, 0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:17.120 so he knows, you know, what should work, how the 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:18.080 guy's gonna set. 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.920 Him, you know. So it's it's it's neat to be around, you. 0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:21.520 Know, a pro. 0:43:22.520 --> 0:43:25.200 Josephosai and Miles Murphy each had a sack last week. 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:27.440 What are you working on with them at this stage 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:28.080 of their development? 0:43:28.680 --> 0:43:34.960 Consistency, whether it's in the run game. They both had opportunities, 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.160 you know. You know one of the sacks that Miles got, 0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.600 you know, Joe created it because he was able to 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.040 penetrate the B gap and then Miles played off of them. 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:47.200 So it's not just a selfish individual, Hey I'm gonna 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:51.040 go win. I mean he did a selfish deal by penetrate, 0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:54.600 penetrating the B gap and allow Miles to get a sack. Right, So, 0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:58.120 so all those things are a part of it, but 0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.840 just being consistent, whether it's the run game, open field, 0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:06.160 tackling those type of things. Like, I'm very demanding and 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:10.200 hold those guys to a really high standard. And I 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.399 think sometimes if you feel like the world's falling down 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.680 on them, when in reality it's like, hey, this happened, 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.400 let's clean it up, all right, Uh, you know, but 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:22.279 don't don't don't you know, let one mistake fall into 0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.759 another one because you can't move on, you know. And 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.439 so those are the things that we're trying to work 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:27.239 to get them past. 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:30.560 You are demanding and it's fun to watch, and I 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.759 get the sense from everybody that I've talked to that 0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.279 they like being pushed. Is that what you're looking for 0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:36.959 from the guys that you have on your D line? 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.319 I want I want guys that it's important to being 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:46.640 out there. It's important. Learning the process and learning what 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:50.239 your opponent does is important. If it's not important to 0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:54.920 you for those things, then like you don't love the game. 0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.600 Like the best guys I've been around, right, and we're 0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:00.480 going to Green Bay, Kenny Clark was one of the 0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.279 best to ever do it. But it wasn't that he 0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.680 was like super Ubertalent. He loved football, and like, I 0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:08.640 got a room full of guys that, like you know, 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.799 they love it. They're learning learning more bald than they've 0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:17.040 ever learned. But like, I expect them to play at 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.800 a high level, and I my standard for them is 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.520 super high, but I expect more out of them. It 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.680 can't be how bad do I want it? Because that 0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.560 doesn't mean anything. I don't play the game. If you 0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:31.160 guys don't put in the time and effort, it's not 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:32.600 gonna show up on the field. And I tell them, 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.239 what you put into it, you get out of it. 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.920 So if you take me as being hard and demanding 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.719 on you is a bad thing, all right, you're never 0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.840 gonna grow, all right, and you're never gonna get to 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.280 where you need to get. A lot of guys understand 0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.719 I'm trying to help them, not hurt them. It's not 0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:52.279 belittle on them. It's trying to make them better. It's 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:55.279 trying to get them to see the game through my 0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.160 lens or to see the game easier. And the guys 0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:00.000 that are doing that are making huge strauss. 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.960 BJ Hill is the leading tackler among the guys up front. 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.479 What have you enjoyed about coaching BJ? 0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.520 Yeah, you know, he's smart, same thing. He's another guy 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:10.880 who's done it. He's been productive right in the past, 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.960 and we're teaching him a little bit different ways. 0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:14.400 Of how to do it. 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:17.279 But you know, he's adapting and he's doing it, and 0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.160 he's playing good ball for us, and we need him 0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:21.040 in there and he's been stout in the run and 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:22.719 we need him to continue to do that. 0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.480 You haven't had Shamar since week two. I thought he 0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:29.120 got better every day at training camp from watching practice. 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:31.359 What did you think of his camp and the first 0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:32.600 two games that he was able. 0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.239 To play, Yeah, like a roller coaster, right, like a 0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:37.640 guy that hadn't been here all off season or all 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:41.360 training camp, right, and then and then he showed flashes 0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:43.520 of like why he went where he went, and so 0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:48.400 it's it's a work in progress, but like when he 0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.360 gets it, when it all clicks for him, the tools 0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:53.880 are there, I see, like a great player in this 0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:54.839 league for a long time. 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:55.120 Right. 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.840 And so he's going through a process right now through. 0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.719 This injury, Like he's how to try to be a 0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:04.840 pro with rehab and all that. So, I mean everything 0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:08.240 he's doing right now is new and it's all a process. 0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:11.239 For so final thing for d line coach Jerry Montgomery. 0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:13.520 The big news this week is obviously the acquisition of 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.200 Joe Flacco. You've squared off against him a handful of 0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:19.080 times in the NFL, including Week one this year. What 0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:20.920 do you think Joe Flacco brings to the table. 0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:23.320 The guys played a lot of football. 0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.440 I mean, I tell the story I told him when 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.000 I saw him last night, Like we were at Northern 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.200 IOW when he was at Delaware, he beat us to 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.560 go to the National Championship game. We were the undefeated team. 0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.600 We had like nine sack opportunities, but we fill down 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.319 his body like six of those, right, so we get 0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:44.040 those nine sacks. It's done. But veteran experience. The guy's 0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:46.279 got He's massive, right, he could see it. 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:46.719 He could make it. 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.680 All the throws and you know, even the picks that 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:52.680 happened our game. I mean those were tips into flections 0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.759 right like the balls were and I think they've had 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:59.720 eleven drops there. I mean, he's gonna have some great weapons, 0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:03.239 but he can make the throws. Veteran leadership. The guys 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.120 won the Super Bowl, like, so he's done it, and 0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.520 it'd be nice to see what he can do. 0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:10.640 We're going to get our opportunity soon. Cherry, appreciate your 0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:12.040 time enjoying the trip back to Green Bank. 0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:13.200 Yeah, thank you very much. 0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:18.400 That is Bengals defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery. We just 0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:21.799 heard him talking about quarterback Joe Flaco, and we will 0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:26.919 hear from the Bengals new older quarterback when we come back, 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.480 Joe Matt with the Cincinnati Media, so the first time 0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:32.319 today we'll hear his comments. In just a moment, you 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.920 are listening to the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by 0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.719 Just Baared Chicken. 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Kettering Health, Official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:15.239 This is ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:16.960 Cincinnati Bengals. 0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:20.640 And this is the Bengals pep Rowley Show presented by 0:49:20.960 --> 0:49:24.240 Just Bear Chicken live from the on the Rhine Eatery 0:49:24.400 --> 0:49:28.400 here in downtown Cincinnati. We're getting getting set for the 0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:30.839 Bengals and Green Bay Packers coming up on Sunday at 0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.200 four to twenty five. We'll see if the Bengals can 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.160 snap their three game losing streak and get back on 0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:38.799 the winning track with a new guy at quarterback. It's 0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:40.520 only the sixth game of the year, this will be 0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:44.239 the bengals third different starting quarterback. Joe Burrow of course, 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:48.080 started games one and two. Jake Browning has started games three, four, 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.359 and five. Unfortunately, Jake did not perform nearly as well 0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:53.960 as he did two years ago when Joe Burrow hurt 0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:56.319 his wrists. So the Bengals are trying to stay in 0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:59.080 the hunt and they have made a move picking up 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:02.600 forty year o old, eighteen year veteran Joe Flacco, a 0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:06.080 former Super Bowl MVP, A guy who has made nearly 0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:09.440 two hundred million dollars in his NFL career, but he 0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.120 still loves playing. He still thinks he can play well. 0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.640 He was the NFL Comeback Player of the Year just 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.120 two years ago when he led the Cleveland Browns to 0:50:17.160 --> 0:50:19.760 the playoffs, and he will try to do something similar 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.920 for the Bengals, try to keep them in contention until 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:26.880 hopefully Joe Burrow comes back in December and leads the 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.440 Bengals to glory in the postseason. 0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:32.000 That's what we can hope for in any case. 0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.360 Joe Flacco has practiced now three times since joining the 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:40.279 Cincinnati Bengals, including earlier today after a Friday morning practice, 0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.080 he met with the Cincinnati media for the first time. 0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:46.040 Let's hear a few of the more interesting things that 0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:47.319 Joe Flacco had to say. 0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.560 Crazy business. You know, you have to be ready for anything. 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.839 That's that's kind of what it was. Definitely didn't have 0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:59.400 this on my list of things that were going to happen. 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:01.440 That that's this league. 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:05.719 And and and I'm a player, uh, I think most 0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:08.040 players would say the same thing. I mean, you know, 0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:12.080 I like to play football, and if that's in Cincinnati 0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:15.080 right now, then you know, I'm all for it. I 0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:19.560 think in this kind of environment and in this situation particularly, 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:22.640 I think honestly I can get in trouble kind of 0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:24.799 think and I know everything. I think the best way 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:26.680 for me to do is is just keep simple, keep 0:51:26.719 --> 0:51:27.200 it simple. 0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:28.440 You know. 0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:30.600 I think a lot of the times when you're when 0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:32.279 you've played a lot of ball, and when you've been 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:36.680 around a lot of ball, you know, you can you 0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:39.439 can get to the point where you overcomplicate things and 0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:43.040 you're just you're just making things harder on yourself. Uh So, honestly, 0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:46.600 I think my experience in this in this regard is 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.560 is uh going to help me in the sense that 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.040 I don't have all the answers. Just keep it simple, 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:56.480 go play football, and you know, and and and and 0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:58.480 I think that's the best way to kind of make 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:02.280 sure that we play consistently, stay ahead of the chaine, 0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:06.120 and do all those things. The biggest challenge is probably 0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.400 still just the Green Bay Packers, you know, and the 0:52:08.440 --> 0:52:13.000 team that they have. They're a confident team that plays 0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:16.760 good football, and you know, I think all the other stuff, 0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:19.600 you know, you can use it as an excuse, but 0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:21.520 we still have to go play a football game on 0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:23.880 Sunday and they're the ones that stand in front of us. 0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:26.359 Lap. 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.640 Joe Flacco has been getting a crash course in the 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:32.600 Cincinnati Bengals playbook. I don't think Zach Taylor has been 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:35.120 getting much sleep this week. They try to feed him 0:52:35.120 --> 0:52:38.920 as much information as they possibly can. The good news 0:52:39.000 --> 0:52:42.120 is he just prepped to face the Green Bay Packers, 0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:45.600 so Joe Flacco can concentrate a little bit less on 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:48.560 that than he normally would and devote most of his 0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.840 concentration to try to pick up this offense and be 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:54.720 able to play at a solid level on Sunday. 0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:57.120 Yeah, and I think I think he feels like he's 0:52:57.160 --> 0:52:58.480 going to be able to do that. I think he 0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:00.920 feels like he's going to be able to help the Bengals. 0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:03.840 He's been in a legal a while, been with a 0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:12.000 few franchises. They've run multiple offensive philosophies and configurations and 0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:17.400 formations and personnel and motions and change of formations. You know, 0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.560 he's been exposed to all of that. I and you 0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:23.960 know he's got all of that to work to pick from, 0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:28.040 to choose from, to work from. I think it's the 0:53:28.040 --> 0:53:30.279 biggest thing that Zach and Dan Pitcher and the rest 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.000 of the coaching staff has to do is to is 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:36.080 to marry what he feels most comfortable with in the 0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:39.960 Bengals offense and put a game plan together based on that, 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.000 and you know, every every down and distance have an 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.160 answer for it. I like the fact that he said, 0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:48.719 I know I don't have all the answers. Well that, 0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.319 you know, some guys have been in the league as 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:54.920 long as him would think they do have all the answers. 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:58.640 And he's he seems like a really good guy, a 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:02.759 guy that his teammates have already gravitated toward. He checks 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:05.000 his ego at the door. He's not, you know, not 0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:08.279 somebody like here, I am. Hey, it's Joe Flacco, you know, 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.800 bowed down and kiss my feet. You know, It's nothing 0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:14.560 like that. He's just a guy who, like he said, 0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.640 loves to play football, and now he has another chance 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:19.919 to go out and play football with what he thinks 0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:21.160 is a pretty good football team. 0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:24.000 He started the first four games of the year for Cleveland. 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:28.240 Then the Browns turned to rookie Dylan Gabriel. Obviously, Cleveland 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:30.200 is in rebuilding mode. They want to see what they 0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:32.719 have with the two quarterbacks that they drafted. I don't 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:35.200 know that we'll see Shador Sanders anytime soon, but they 0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:39.200 certainly want to check out Dylan Gabriel first. Flacco didn't 0:54:39.200 --> 0:54:42.640 play particularly well for the Browns. He acknowledged that earlier today. 0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:45.000 There are circumstances there. You don't have a lot of 0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.560 a wide receiver talent in Cleveland. Their offensive line has 0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:50.880 been battered and bruised. They didn't play particularly well in 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.160 front of him. I will say this, We saw him 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:56.720 on opening Day and he played great against the Bengals. 0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:59.120 He threw for two hundred and ninety yards. If not 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:03.720 for several drops, including two that became interceptions, the Bengals 0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:05.040 probably don't win that game. 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:07.920 I agree, And I think the coaches looked at that 0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:10.480 tape and said, hey, he's still got a lot of 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:12.600 gas left in the tank. I mean, this guy can 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:14.680 still play. He can still throw it with the best 0:55:14.680 --> 0:55:17.200 of them. And that's the thing. He's always had a 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:20.200 Howartzer hanging off his right shoulder. You know, the dude 0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:23.239 has a canon. There's no no question about it. And 0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:28.400 it's not like you know all over the place. He's controlled. 0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:31.360 When he throws that football down the football field. He 0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.960 can put it in very tight spots. He can hit 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:35.400 you in the right shoulder, he can hit you in 0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.560 the left ep. He can put the ball wherever he 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:40.000 needs to put it, and it's got ourpms on it, 0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:42.959 it's got velocity on it comes out of his hand 0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.879 very very easily. And the good thing is about him 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:48.319 And this is what I think you know, got Jake 0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:51.440 in a little bit of trouble. He gets it out 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:52.280 of his hand quickly. 0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:52.560 Yep. 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:55.359 I mean he makes reads and right now the ball 0:55:55.480 --> 0:55:58.239 is out and if you're a receiver, you better get 0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.400 your head around because that ball could become And so 0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:04.239 I think that's going to be an interesting part of 0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:07.480 practice for the for Joe Flack and his wide receivers 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.839 is make sure that they know that all of them 0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.880 didn't play every single snap and the ball could be coming. 0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:16.239 All right, We're gonna take a time out when we 0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:21.720 come back. Why we owe punter Ryan Rico an apology. 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.480 This is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:28.000 Bear Chicken. We are live at the on the Rhyane 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.840 Eatery Orin Burkes will be our guest at five o'clock 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:37.760 here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the Bengals 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:40.560 pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken, Live from 0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.840 the on the Ryan Eatery, our Friday afternoon home throughout 0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:47.680 the season. We're here until six o'clock tonight, and linebacker 0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:51.000 Orin Burkes number forty two special teams as will be 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.920 joining us in the final hour of the show. Orn 0:56:53.960 --> 0:56:56.880 will be here from five to six, happy to sign autographs, 0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:59.600 happy to take pictures. We look forward to chatting with 0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:04.160 or and Burks at five o'clock. In last week's game 0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:08.239 against the Lions, Detroit tackled quarterback Jake Browning in the 0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:10.360 end zone for a safety with about two minutes to go, 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:17.440 and something very confusing happened after that, so confusing that 0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:21.200 we owe punter Ryan Rico an apology. 0:57:22.040 --> 0:57:22.840 Here's what I mean. 0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.000 So it's a free kick now for Cincinnati, and they 0:57:28.000 --> 0:57:29.600 elect to have the punter do it. 0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:33.120 Ryan Rico. No long snap, he just has the ball 0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:33.840 in his right hand. 0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:36.360 He'll step into it and punt it before reaching the 0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:37.160 twenty yard line. 0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:38.800 Here comes his punt. Oh, oh, my. 0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:41.160 Bad punt, straight up in the air like he was 0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:43.160 punting in a silo on It's fair. 0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:44.600 Caught at the forty. 0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:48.760 Six a twenty six yard high fly ball by Ryan Rico. 0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:51.800 One forty nine to go and the Lions will have 0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:55.720 it at the Cincinnati forty six. The law was fought 0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:57.040 outside the setup zone. 0:57:57.080 --> 0:58:00.280 By rule, that's an unsportsman life conduct penalty on the 0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:01.000 kicking team. 0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:04.080 It'll be the receiving team's ball half the distance from 0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.440 the spot of a kick at the ten yard line 0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:07.200 first down. 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:13.520 Wow, man, that's the most severe penalty I've ever heard. 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:16.200 God, are you kidding me? 0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:19.400 All right? 0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:21.400 So, what the heck just happened? 0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:25.080 I watched the TV coverage of the game after I 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:28.360 got home. The guys on TV had no idea what happened. 0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:31.920 Now I know what happened. That was an on side 0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:37.240 punt right after the safety. When the Bengals did the 0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:41.080 free kick from the twenty yard line, they were trying 0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:43.200 to punt the ball straight up in the air. So 0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:47.200 that was intentional by Ryan Rico, hoping that the Lions 0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:50.400 would Muffet, maybe have some sort of blocker that's not 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:54.680 used to catching the football Muffet and the Bengals could recover. 0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:59.680 An on side punt is legal, but with the dynamic 0:58:59.760 --> 0:59:04.360 kick off rule that was instituted last year, you have 0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:07.480 to land it in a certain zone, and Ryan Rico 0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.959 didn't quite pull it off. I talked to him about 0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:17.440 the on side punt yesterday. 0:59:14.800 --> 0:59:16.240 You don't see it a whole lot because it can 0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:21.400 only happen after a safety and in those situations, you're 0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:22.840 really just trying to put the other team in a 0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:23.479 difficult spot. 0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:25.440 Maybe they didn't practice it as much as they should have. 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:28.640 With that, you got to. 0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:31.200 Land it in between the thirty and the forty five 0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:36.560 yard line. They're able to signal fair catch, which can 0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:40.440 make it more or less confusing for them, but really 0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.160 you're just trying to give your guys time to basically 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:47.520 go crowd the returner, hope they're gonna muff it, and 0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:50.280 so yeah, it was basically you just get that thing 0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:51.840 up as high as possible and try and put the 0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:55.400 returner in a difficult position. Unfortunately, it went long and 0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:57.920 so it made it easier on them. 0:59:57.920 --> 0:59:59.320 It kind of takes the pressure out of that. 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:04.240 But in those situations, you're like, Okay, what do we 1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:06.200 have and what can we do to make it difficult 1:00:06.200 --> 1:00:06.720 for him? 1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.600 It went to the forty six, so you went one 1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:10.760 yard too far. 1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:15.200 Yes, one yard shorter, and it's like, wow, that was perfect. Unfortunately, 1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:16.960 that's how the special teams goes a lot of the time. 1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:19.120 Close just isn't quite good enough. 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.439 Did you even know that there was such a thing 1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:23.640 as an on side punt? 1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:28.040 Yes, yes, it happened a couple times last year. We've 1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:31.760 watched the film on it several times. It is one 1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:33.720 of those situations that you're like, oh, like, when are 1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:36.360 we ever going to be in there? But I feel 1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:39.120 like Darren has done a great job of talking us 1:00:39.160 --> 1:00:42.120 through it what the goal is, and unfortunately I just 1:00:42.120 --> 1:00:43.320 got to be able to execute it better. 1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:48.200 So Lap, I'm ticked off at myself that I didn't 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:51.800 recognize that was an on side punt because you told 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:55.720 me years ago that Don Shula, as the head coach 1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:59.240 of the Dolphins, pulled one off against the Bengals in 1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:01.120 your playing Sure. 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:04.960 Did, and I was a rookie and Don Shula. The 1:01:05.040 --> 1:01:09.640 punt just like a kickoff. Once it travels ten yards, 1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:13.760 it's a free ball anybody's football. But if you touch it, 1:01:13.840 --> 1:01:16.280 if you're the return team and you touch it and 1:01:16.400 --> 1:01:20.160 don't take the possession of it, secure possession of it, 1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:24.080 and the kickoff or punt coverage team balls on. It's 1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:26.520 their ball. It's stair a ball right there. In fact, 1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:29.320 Paul Brown ran one when I was a rookie as well, 1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:32.560 and makes sense that Don Shula would because Don Chula 1:01:32.600 --> 1:01:35.040 played for Paul Brown with the Cleveland Browns in his 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:39.520 playing days. So these these are two coaches that know 1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:46.240 every single period, punctuation mark, word written in the rule 1:01:46.240 --> 1:01:48.960 book and can recite it. Probably can recite it in 1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:53.280 their sleep. But it's it's interesting. I mean, there's something 1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:56.520 that that Darren Simmons covers. I know he covers on 1:01:56.600 --> 1:01:59.160 side kicks. I know that for a fact. He's told me, 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:01.680 his players are told me. So it's not like the 1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:03.800 Bengals were ill prepared for. 1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:04.959 It, right. 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:08.760 What's different now from when you played is that back 1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:12.080 then there was a total element of surprise. I remember 1:02:12.080 --> 1:02:14.880 you telling me, Yeah, there were guys on the sideline saying, 1:02:14.880 --> 1:02:18.760 what just happened? You can do that, Whereas now, because 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:21.440 of the dynamic kickoff rule, whenever you do an on 1:02:21.600 --> 1:02:24.680 side kick, you have to tell the opponent otherwise their 1:02:24.680 --> 1:02:28.120 coverage team would be way down the field. So the 1:02:28.200 --> 1:02:31.960 Lions knew an onside kick was coming. You still have 1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:33.800 the element of surprise. 1:02:33.400 --> 1:02:34.320 In how you do it. 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:37.520 They probably not accustomed to seeing a punch try to 1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:40.080 kick it a mile up in the air, but they 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:44.120 do know that some sort of onside kick is coming, right. 1:02:44.200 --> 1:02:47.000 There's a trick element to it, you know, some kind 1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:54.160 of element or surprise when it happens when it's not declared. 1:02:55.840 --> 1:02:59.560 I've seen players think that the played the kickoff, just 1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:02.120 miss the punt, just missed the ball, whift on the ball, 1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:05.360 you know, either a total whiff or a partial whiff 1:03:05.440 --> 1:03:09.200 or whatever, and just caught a little piece of it. So, yeah, 1:03:09.560 --> 1:03:13.400 it's special teams one third of the game. Darren Simms 1:03:13.440 --> 1:03:15.720 will tell you that it's one third of the football game. 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:21.520 It determines field position for points scored, yards in your favor, 1:03:22.120 --> 1:03:26.440 help your defense, potential turnovers as a result, maybe turnovers 1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:30.040 during the play, and special teams. It's a very important 1:03:30.040 --> 1:03:31.240 part of the game. There's no doubt. 1:03:32.200 --> 1:03:36.040 I love when obscure things happened. There was that game 1:03:36.120 --> 1:03:38.800 last year where just before the half a guy made 1:03:38.840 --> 1:03:41.480 a fair catch and they were able to take advantage 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:43.439 of the rule where you can attempt the field goal 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:46.200 with nobody up front to try to block it under 1:03:46.200 --> 1:03:49.520 those circumstances, and it worked. But these are the types 1:03:49.560 --> 1:03:53.640 of things that you might see once every twenty years. Yeah, 1:03:53.720 --> 1:03:55.000 like an onside punt. 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:59.160 Absolutely, you know, and Paul Brown, we did that when 1:03:59.160 --> 1:04:01.960 he was head coach. Signal fair kit right for the half. 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:05.960 Last play of that first half, signal fair catch went 1:04:06.000 --> 1:04:08.720 for like a fifty eight yard field goal, as I recall, 1:04:08.840 --> 1:04:12.120 something like that, fifty seven to fifty eight yards and 1:04:12.480 --> 1:04:14.840 just missed it, barely missed it, but made a heck 1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:15.560 of a run at it. 1:04:16.560 --> 1:04:16.920 All right. 1:04:17.280 --> 1:04:20.320 It's a Friday, that means Friday Night Stripes presented by 1:04:20.320 --> 1:04:23.560 Ohio Catt is coming up tonight, celebrating high school football 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:26.640 across the region with games, giveaways, and who Day Spirit. 1:04:26.920 --> 1:04:29.520 Catch the Bengals in your community. 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You can meet angles linebacker Orrin Burkes. 1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:03.880 He'll be here in about twenty five minutes or so 1:05:04.320 --> 1:05:05.959 for the final hour of our show. 1:05:06.040 --> 1:05:07.360 Let's get to the news of the day. 1:05:07.440 --> 1:05:11.920 It is the Kettering Health Injury Report, brought to you 1:05:11.960 --> 1:05:14.440 by the Kettering Health Network. A few guys to keep 1:05:14.440 --> 1:05:17.080 an eye on on Sunday in Green Bay. So Jamar 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:20.640 Chase was at practice this morning. He was there for 1:05:20.720 --> 1:05:23.080 team meetings, but he wasn't feeling well, so they sent 1:05:23.160 --> 1:05:26.840 him home early. He's listed his questionable. I think he's 1:05:26.880 --> 1:05:29.240 going to play. I'm not too concerned about that one happen. 1:05:29.240 --> 1:05:29.760 What do you think? 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:32.240 I agree with you, Dan, I think he's definitely going 1:05:32.320 --> 1:05:40.720 to play. You know, I think hopefully fluids, rest, rest, Yeah, 1:05:40.760 --> 1:05:44.360 getting a good, a really good night's sleep, and in 1:05:44.440 --> 1:05:48.400 not overdoing it the rest of the week physically because 1:05:48.520 --> 1:05:51.000 he is a worker now, he's a worker bee and 1:05:51.080 --> 1:05:52.880 he'll be in the weight room. He'll he'll be doing 1:05:52.920 --> 1:05:56.840 all kinds of things, treadmill. I mean, he's just always 1:05:57.360 --> 1:06:02.000 looking to improve his body. So take it easy, rest up, 1:06:02.320 --> 1:06:04.800 and get ready to kick the packers' asses. 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:11.040 Make it butts please right Shamar Stuart did some practicing 1:06:11.160 --> 1:06:13.800 this week, but he's listed as doubtful for Sunday. I 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:16.040 don't think we're going to see Schamar back yet with 1:06:16.120 --> 1:06:19.080 that ankle injury. Hopefully next Thursday at home against the 1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:22.960 Pittsburgh Steelers, Shamar Stuart will be in action. There's a 1:06:23.000 --> 1:06:25.920 concern at left guard. Dylan Fairchild is dealing with a 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:29.440 sore knee. He didn't practice on Wednesday, he didn't practice 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:33.560 on Thursday. He was limited at practice today, listed is 1:06:33.680 --> 1:06:37.960 questionable for Sunday. That one seems very iffy to me. 1:06:38.600 --> 1:06:41.960 If he can't play, You've got a couple of options. Obviously, 1:06:44.840 --> 1:06:47.240 I'm drawing a blank now, and who started at right 1:06:47.240 --> 1:06:50.160 guard at the beginning of the year the or no, 1:06:50.800 --> 1:06:52.720 hold on a second, let me get my chart here. 1:06:53.200 --> 1:06:56.840 I hate to blank out on you, all, right, Dal Reisner? Okay, 1:06:56.920 --> 1:07:00.480 Don Reisner started at right guard up in the second 1:07:00.560 --> 1:07:03.000 and third games. He's played plenty of left guard in 1:07:03.040 --> 1:07:06.040 the past, so Reisner could kick over the left guard. 1:07:06.400 --> 1:07:09.880 Lucas Patrick also returned to practice this week right He's 1:07:09.920 --> 1:07:13.360 been a full participant in practice. He's not back on 1:07:13.400 --> 1:07:16.040 the active roster yet, so they'd have to put him 1:07:16.040 --> 1:07:17.840 on the roster they'd have to make a roster move 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:19.560 in order for him to play. 1:07:19.640 --> 1:07:20.520 That could happen. 1:07:20.960 --> 1:07:24.320 But if fair Child can't go, You've got two good 1:07:24.440 --> 1:07:27.520 veteran options in and Patrick, you. 1:07:27.520 --> 1:07:31.000 Do, you have two good veteran options Patrick. You know, 1:07:31.920 --> 1:07:34.480 even though he's practicing, the fact that he, you know, 1:07:34.640 --> 1:07:39.520 is still hasn't been activated as such is a little 1:07:39.560 --> 1:07:41.280 bit of a concern, but not much. I mean, I 1:07:41.320 --> 1:07:43.720 think if he's if he's practicing and going full go 1:07:44.840 --> 1:07:47.280 at practice, he should be okay. He should be ready 1:07:47.280 --> 1:07:47.560 to go. 1:07:49.400 --> 1:07:49.880 Is another. 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:52.720 He's an interesting story. I mean, he's played a lot 1:07:52.720 --> 1:07:57.760 of football. He's been in multiple offenses, all different kinds 1:07:57.800 --> 1:08:04.480 of experiences, different teammates, working with different centers and tackles, 1:08:04.840 --> 1:08:07.720 knowing what that's like, getting up to speed where you're 1:08:07.760 --> 1:08:10.480 on the same page with your techniques and the fundamentals 1:08:10.480 --> 1:08:14.360 and everything that goes with it. But it doesn't happen overnight. 1:08:14.680 --> 1:08:17.800 And he has not had many snaps with any offensive 1:08:17.800 --> 1:08:22.639 lineman whatsoever on the Cincinnati Bengals roster. So right guard's 1:08:22.640 --> 1:08:25.720 a problem. Right guard's a question mark. You know, it's 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:28.880 like an uncertainty in the offensive line and in the 1:08:28.920 --> 1:08:35.120 offensive position group or personnel. So the Green Bay Packers 1:08:35.439 --> 1:08:41.280 are circling it. There's no doubt defensive line, coach, coordinator, players, detackles, 1:08:41.800 --> 1:08:43.559 they're all gonna want to take their turn, take a 1:08:43.600 --> 1:08:46.120 shot at whoever's playing right guard. It's going to be 1:08:46.240 --> 1:08:47.439 interesting how they hold up. 1:08:47.720 --> 1:08:51.880 Jalen River is at right guard, and then either Fairchild 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:55.839 if he can come back, or Reisner or Patrick at left. 1:08:55.640 --> 1:08:59.640 Guard right correct and you know it's going to be 1:09:00.680 --> 1:09:02.920 when you have three you don't have one. You know, 1:09:03.000 --> 1:09:05.839 that's the thing. If you're getting three guys ready to play, 1:09:06.320 --> 1:09:08.160 and there's there's nothing wrong with it, I don't. I 1:09:08.200 --> 1:09:11.720 don't think there's you know, the Bengals should receive the 1:09:11.840 --> 1:09:15.960 merits and they're grading for preparation for the court during 1:09:15.960 --> 1:09:18.240 the course of the week, for having multiple guys ready 1:09:18.280 --> 1:09:21.960 to play the left guard position, and you know, guard 1:09:22.000 --> 1:09:26.720 and center and tackle position overall. I think I think 1:09:26.720 --> 1:09:30.080 you should have as many as many players as you 1:09:30.160 --> 1:09:33.120 possibly can be able to play more than one position, 1:09:33.760 --> 1:09:37.719 because you know, sometimes injury bug really crops up during 1:09:37.720 --> 1:09:39.360 the course of the game and you're you guys are 1:09:39.360 --> 1:09:42.240 going down like flies and you need everything you got 1:09:42.760 --> 1:09:44.759 and they have to be able to do multiple things, 1:09:44.800 --> 1:09:48.320 but it's going to be interesting to see how Riisener 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:50.920 does it right guard and whoever the left guard is. 1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:54.880 Just don't be a negative, you know, just just play 1:09:55.040 --> 1:09:59.519 solid football. Just when Ted Carris is passing a you know, 1:09:59.840 --> 1:10:03.400 a a stunting defensive lineman over there towards. You be 1:10:03.520 --> 1:10:06.080 there where you're when you're supposed to be there, how 1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:08.600 you're supposed to be there, doing what you're supposed to 1:10:08.680 --> 1:10:11.439 be when you're there. So that's gonna be interesting, and 1:10:12.080 --> 1:10:13.200 I'm sure they'll be ready. 1:10:13.479 --> 1:10:16.000 So the Bengals made a dramatic move on Tuesday with 1:10:16.040 --> 1:10:20.000 the acquisition a veteran quarterback Joe Flacco, and then announced 1:10:20.120 --> 1:10:22.920 on Wednesday he will be the starter this Sunday against 1:10:22.920 --> 1:10:23.600 the Packers. 1:10:23.680 --> 1:10:25.280 Why did they do it? Why did they do it? 1:10:25.360 --> 1:10:25.559 Now? 1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:29.720 Well, I think it's pretty clear Jake Browning was really struggling. 1:10:29.800 --> 1:10:32.479 If you heard him in his postgame news conference on Sunday, 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:36.120 it sound like sounded like his confidence was shot. It's 1:10:36.240 --> 1:10:39.080 understandable that the team would think, well, man, we know 1:10:39.160 --> 1:10:42.439 he can play, but we can't really afford to let 1:10:42.560 --> 1:10:44.439 him break out of a slump. We've got to do 1:10:44.640 --> 1:10:47.280 something ye to try to stay in the race because 1:10:47.600 --> 1:10:50.639 the AFC is a jumbled mess. The Ravens are one 1:10:50.680 --> 1:10:54.360 in four, the Chiefs are two and three. Pittsburgh's three 1:10:54.400 --> 1:10:56.519 and one, but the jury's still out on just how 1:10:56.520 --> 1:10:59.280 good Pittsburgh is. The Bengals are trying to stay in 1:10:59.320 --> 1:11:02.040 the hunt with the hopes that Joe Burrow is back 1:11:02.200 --> 1:11:05.800 in December, and Joe fully intends to return if the 1:11:05.840 --> 1:11:09.240 games are meaningful. So the front office is acted. The 1:11:09.280 --> 1:11:11.439 players appreciate it. Here's tight end. 1:11:11.760 --> 1:11:16.439 Mike KASICKI credit to them for understanding, you know, the 1:11:16.479 --> 1:11:17.800 talent in this locker room, and. 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:20.599 You know, just giving us. 1:11:20.479 --> 1:11:23.519 The uh the opportunity to go out there and you know, 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:28.240 be really uh competitive here and see where we can 1:11:28.320 --> 1:11:31.519 kind of go in these next I would say four 1:11:31.560 --> 1:11:35.000 or five weeks leading into that bye week, and uh, 1:11:35.160 --> 1:11:38.160 you know, I honestly have an opportunity here to play 1:11:38.200 --> 1:11:40.920 two games in five days or whatever the heck it is. 1:11:40.960 --> 1:11:43.519 So that's a great opportunity to you know, when you're 1:11:43.560 --> 1:11:45.760 in a slump, we'll go win two in five days 1:11:45.760 --> 1:11:47.519 and that'll that'll that'll help turn it around. 1:11:47.560 --> 1:11:50.840 So great opportunity for us and a lot of excitement. 1:11:50.439 --> 1:11:53.240 In the locker room, all right. 1:11:53.280 --> 1:11:55.760 So I think Mike Kasicki set it up pretty well there. 1:11:55.800 --> 1:11:58.759 The Bengals have a very tough game coming up on Sunday. 1:11:58.800 --> 1:12:00.679 Green Bay is an ex excellent team. 1:12:00.840 --> 1:12:01.000 Yep. 1:12:01.120 --> 1:12:03.639 They've got a big home field advantage at Lambeau. Even 1:12:03.720 --> 1:12:07.000 if Joe Flacco plays great, it might not be enough 1:12:07.240 --> 1:12:11.120 to beat the Packers. So let's just say that the 1:12:11.160 --> 1:12:14.840 Bengals don't win on Sunday. After that, three straight home 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:18.519 games Thursday night game against Pittsburgh. Thursday home games are 1:12:18.560 --> 1:12:21.759 a big advantage, yep. A home game against the Jets, 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:24.599 the only team that hasn't won a game home game 1:12:24.640 --> 1:12:27.360 against the Bears. The Bears are getting better, but they're 1:12:27.360 --> 1:12:28.200 not good yet. 1:12:28.320 --> 1:12:28.559 Right. 1:12:28.760 --> 1:12:32.439 You could lose on Sunday, win those three games and 1:12:32.520 --> 1:12:35.040 be over five hundred five and four going into your 1:12:35.040 --> 1:12:35.639 bye week. 1:12:35.920 --> 1:12:39.240 And more than halfway halfway point of the season, basically 1:12:39.520 --> 1:12:41.639 five and four steal in the thick of all of it. 1:12:42.160 --> 1:12:44.760 And I think that's what they're they're thinking, at least that, 1:12:44.960 --> 1:12:48.920 you know, I fully expect them. I'm not saying they're 1:12:48.960 --> 1:12:51.719 gonna go up there and beat Green Bay. They're a 1:12:51.760 --> 1:12:54.720 heavy underdog, you know, green Bay should be favored, and 1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:57.639 they are. And like you said, Dan, the biggest reason 1:12:58.720 --> 1:13:03.400 lambeau Field Man. That place is tough. It's a tough 1:13:03.439 --> 1:13:07.479 place to play. Played there two or three times, two 1:13:07.520 --> 1:13:09.760 times anywhere that I can recall right off the top 1:13:09.800 --> 1:13:12.519 of my head, And I mean, couldn't hear myself, think, 1:13:12.840 --> 1:13:17.240 could not hear any cadence that was being said by 1:13:17.240 --> 1:13:20.120 the quarterback, couldn't hear the center and turn around to 1:13:20.160 --> 1:13:24.720 look at me and calling sig calling, making calls to 1:13:24.920 --> 1:13:27.719 set up blocking patterns. Couldn't hear that, couldn't hear anything, 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:32.680 And that is unsettling. That gives you a feeling of discomfort, 1:13:32.760 --> 1:13:37.240 you know, and next thing you know, you're not You're 1:13:37.320 --> 1:13:41.679 unsure and uncertainty and and and when you're unsure and uncertain, 1:13:41.680 --> 1:13:43.960 it makes cowards of all of us, you know. So 1:13:44.400 --> 1:13:47.040 you got to go out there and be brave, breaking 1:13:47.080 --> 1:13:49.519 the huddle, get to the lone of scrimmage, feel good 1:13:49.520 --> 1:13:53.400 about what you're doing, how you're doing it, play at 1:13:53.400 --> 1:13:56.000 a at a level of intensity that you know you 1:13:56.040 --> 1:13:58.439 can be proud of. That crowd, though, is going to 1:13:58.479 --> 1:14:00.840 try to make it difficult. I mean they just look 1:14:00.920 --> 1:14:03.320 right at you. And laugh at you and get louder. 1:14:03.360 --> 1:14:08.280 It's a very very difficult place to play in terms 1:14:08.280 --> 1:14:11.000 of I mean they you know, those meters a measure 1:14:11.040 --> 1:14:15.839 crowd noise. They try to peg that meter every single snap. 1:14:15.920 --> 1:14:17.160 I mean, they're crazy up there. 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:22.160 Speaking of Packers fans, when my son was born, just 1:14:22.200 --> 1:14:24.800 for the fun of it, I decided to put him 1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:27.280 on the Packers season ticket weight list. 1:14:27.360 --> 1:14:28.080 Can he's still waiting. 1:14:28.280 --> 1:14:31.320 We were living in Boston at the time. Who knows 1:14:31.439 --> 1:14:34.120 where he would be when the age came that he'd 1:14:34.160 --> 1:14:36.400 be able to buy his tickets. I just thought, what 1:14:36.479 --> 1:14:39.240 the heck, who knows, Maybe he'll be living in Chicago 1:14:39.320 --> 1:14:41.559 by then. Sure, so I put him on the wait list. 1:14:41.600 --> 1:14:44.599 Sam is now nineteen years old. Every year you get 1:14:44.600 --> 1:14:48.280 a postcard that updates you where you are on the list. 1:14:48.800 --> 1:14:52.439 We got it maybe three or four weeks ago. Nineteen 1:14:52.560 --> 1:14:56.559 years into his life, he is eighty eight thousand, one 1:14:56.600 --> 1:14:58.400 hundred and twenty four people away. 1:15:00.160 --> 1:15:01.320 That's unbelievable. 1:15:01.560 --> 1:15:04.840 Last year the list dropped by one thousand and seven 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:08.639 and seventy three. So at that pace, another fifty years 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:12.479 from now, approximately when he's almost seventy years old, he'll 1:15:12.520 --> 1:15:16.320 be able to get tickets. Historically it takes about fifty 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:19.920 years to get your get your person spot on the list. 1:15:20.000 --> 1:15:20.200 Man. 1:15:20.280 --> 1:15:23.920 So Sam, he'll be about my age when he's able 1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:27.080 to try to secure and procure. 1:15:26.680 --> 1:15:29.120 Unless there's some good years between now and then where 1:15:29.160 --> 1:15:30.519 a bunch of tickets open up. 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:35.640 Yeah, I'll tell you it's that that place is, you know, 1:15:35.920 --> 1:15:38.479 it's it's a unique place to play, There's no doubt 1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:41.320 about it. And when you're a Packer fan, you're a 1:15:41.360 --> 1:15:44.559 Packer fan for life. Like the like those lists just 1:15:44.840 --> 1:15:48.360 that you recited, just confirmed Dan, I mean it's crazy. 1:15:49.439 --> 1:15:52.720 My in laws by marriage, Dave's mother and father in 1:15:52.800 --> 1:15:58.679 law live up there, and many it's Green Bay Packer 1:15:58.760 --> 1:16:02.800 tickets are impossib That's like, you know, that's the number 1:16:02.800 --> 1:16:06.920 one item on everybody's wish list, gift list for Christmas. 1:16:06.960 --> 1:16:09.120 You know, it's like, hey, Santa Claus is going to 1:16:09.200 --> 1:16:14.240 be bringing some season tickets down the chimney. It's it's 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:17.320 a great place to play. I know, guys have met 1:16:17.360 --> 1:16:20.320 guys that have played for the Green Bay Packers, And 1:16:20.320 --> 1:16:23.599 when you're a player in Green Bay, you don't pay 1:16:23.640 --> 1:16:27.280 for a thing, man, I mean, you pay for nothing, housing, 1:16:28.439 --> 1:16:34.080 cars or you know, get given to you meals. There's 1:16:34.120 --> 1:16:36.000 not a bar tab that ever makes its way to 1:16:36.040 --> 1:16:39.320 a Green Bay Packer. That place is great to play 1:16:39.720 --> 1:16:41.080 with all the fringies man. 1:16:43.080 --> 1:16:43.360 All right. 1:16:43.600 --> 1:16:46.840 Coming up next, one of the number one things the 1:16:46.880 --> 1:16:48.840 Bengals are going to have to do on Sunday to 1:16:48.880 --> 1:16:52.240 have a shot at beating the Packers is handling number one. 1:16:52.360 --> 1:16:55.920 Micah Parsons A Marius Mims talks about that challenge when 1:16:55.960 --> 1:16:56.639 we come back. 1:16:56.960 --> 1:16:59.120 This is the Bengals pep Rowley Shell live. 1:16:59.000 --> 1:17:02.600 From the on the Ride here in downtown Cincinnati on 1:17:02.840 --> 1:17:11.240 ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the Bengals pep Rally 1:17:11.280 --> 1:17:14.400 Show presented by Just Fair Chicken, live from the on 1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:17.839 the Ryan Eatery the Food Haul above the downtown Kroger. 1:17:18.080 --> 1:17:20.240 Come out and join us. We're here every Friday between 1:17:20.320 --> 1:17:24.200 three and six. Actually, I should amend that some weeks 1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:26.679 it's going to be two thirty to five thirty based 1:17:26.720 --> 1:17:29.439 on other programming. We'll tell you when that's the case, 1:17:29.760 --> 1:17:31.960 but most of the time it's three to six, and 1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:34.479 we typically have a Bengals player join us in the 1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:37.719 final hour of the show. That will be the case today. 1:17:38.040 --> 1:17:41.080 We'll be joined by linebacker Orren Burks in just a 1:17:41.080 --> 1:17:43.639 few minutes. The Bengals take on the Packers at lambeau 1:17:43.720 --> 1:17:47.320 Field this Sunday. This game got tougher for Cincinnati in 1:17:47.439 --> 1:17:50.400 late August when the Packers made a trade. They sent 1:17:50.680 --> 1:17:53.960 three time Pro bowler Kenny Clark to the Dallas Cowboys 1:17:54.000 --> 1:17:57.760 along with two first round draft picks to get Micah Parsons. 1:17:58.520 --> 1:18:00.479 For good reason, He's been a pro for four years. 1:18:00.520 --> 1:18:03.160 He's been a Pro Bowler all four He's certainly one 1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:05.800 of the best defensive players in the league, and the 1:18:05.840 --> 1:18:08.639 Packers showed how they felt about him by not only 1:18:08.680 --> 1:18:11.599 making that trade, but by giving him a four year, 1:18:11.680 --> 1:18:15.719 one hundred and eighty eight million dollar extension forty seven 1:18:15.760 --> 1:18:18.640 million dollars a year for a defensive player. That is 1:18:18.680 --> 1:18:20.400 a record for a non quarterback. 1:18:20.520 --> 1:18:21.840 He got paid, boy, sure did. 1:18:22.280 --> 1:18:24.200 Bengals faced him last year when he was still with 1:18:24.200 --> 1:18:27.719 the Dallas Cowboys. Cincinnati won the game. A Marius Mims 1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:30.200 was the primary guy that had to block him. Michael 1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:33.160 Parsons didn't have a sack and didn't have a tackle 1:18:33.720 --> 1:18:36.400 in that game. I've talked to a Marius Mims this 1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:40.799 week so about about trying to handle miche Micah Parsons again. 1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:44.479 Yeah, I mean, I think Michael's the best d N 1:18:45.000 --> 1:18:47.559 in the NFL other than Miles Garrett. If you hasn't, 1:18:47.560 --> 1:18:49.320 he's just the guys who I haven't played against. The 1:18:49.360 --> 1:18:51.679 don't be a challenge at always, especially on the road. 1:18:51.920 --> 1:18:54.400 It's gonna be a game worse about me again, honestly, 1:18:54.479 --> 1:18:57.040 just just doing what coaches telling me in practice, and 1:18:57.160 --> 1:18:59.040 you know, how can you know, trying to mutralize them 1:18:59.040 --> 1:19:01.320 as much as possible and knowing you know, he's gonna 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:03.320 make his fair share of plays, you know. I mean, 1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:05.559 it's gonna happen with a guy like that. But really, 1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:07.280 like I said, my mind set is relative to just 1:19:07.520 --> 1:19:09.040 you know, go out there and play the game football. 1:19:09.080 --> 1:19:11.280 Do I can play, continue to get better, and you know, 1:19:12.120 --> 1:19:14.320 if I let woman, like not let one Mian's stake 1:19:14.400 --> 1:19:17.120 or one you know, one small minor, you know, step 1:19:17.120 --> 1:19:18.599 in that game and turn. 1:19:18.479 --> 1:19:19.320 Into like the whole game. 1:19:19.400 --> 1:19:21.880 So, like I said, boy against a great player, not 1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:24.600 one of the best players on defense, and ever, I mean, 1:19:24.640 --> 1:19:25.760 I think he's a good Like I said, you know 1:19:25.760 --> 1:19:27.280 he's a good player, but I know he's a good player. 1:19:27.439 --> 1:19:29.000 But I said, I'm ready for the challenge. You know, 1:19:29.400 --> 1:19:31.080 like I said, last year, he was with another team 1:19:31.640 --> 1:19:33.200 last year who played in Dallas, and this year is 1:19:33.240 --> 1:19:35.000 gonna be in on Green Bay, so it's gonna be fun. 1:19:35.360 --> 1:19:38.080 Do you gain confidence from having played him and having 1:19:38.360 --> 1:19:38.800 held out? 1:19:38.880 --> 1:19:40.360 I feel like, you know, in this league, gotta have 1:19:40.360 --> 1:19:42.760 accomplish against everybody because if not, you will you will 1:19:42.760 --> 1:19:44.960 get killed in this league. Like I said, there's too 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:47.679 many good guys. If you're not confident in yourself first, 1:19:47.960 --> 1:19:49.439 then I feel like, you know it's gonna You're gonna 1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:50.720 be in the world of trouble is billing and os 1:19:50.800 --> 1:19:52.679 with you. So just going out there playing stress free, 1:19:53.000 --> 1:19:54.479 just going out there knowing the you know you're not 1:19:54.479 --> 1:19:56.120 gonna play a perfect game, but knowing like I said, 1:19:56.120 --> 1:19:58.080 if you beat that guy across from you more time 1:19:58.120 --> 1:19:59.240 than he bahu, you know what I'm saying, you have 1:19:59.320 --> 1:20:01.040 a good chance to win, especially with that guy right there. 1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:02.920 If you can neutralize him, you know we got a 1:20:02.920 --> 1:20:03.400 good chance. 1:20:05.320 --> 1:20:07.920 Lapp, tell me what the week was like in your 1:20:07.960 --> 1:20:10.280 playing days when you knew you were going to be 1:20:10.320 --> 1:20:13.280 blocking me and Joe Green or Cray Culp, one of 1:20:13.320 --> 1:20:15.160 the elite players. 1:20:14.680 --> 1:20:15.200 Of your era. 1:20:16.200 --> 1:20:21.439 Yeah, that's a good question, Dan, I remember vividly, not 1:20:21.479 --> 1:20:23.599 a whole lot of sleep, you know. I mean, you 1:20:23.640 --> 1:20:26.920 think about it all the time, every waking moment. You're 1:20:26.960 --> 1:20:29.559 thinking about how am I going to counter his best move? 1:20:30.120 --> 1:20:34.160 You watch, you study film back then, tape today, and 1:20:34.240 --> 1:20:36.200 you study it and study it and study it some 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:40.479 more and try to find tells. Tells are something that 1:20:40.520 --> 1:20:44.680 they do. Maybe they change their stance, maybe you know, 1:20:44.760 --> 1:20:47.840 they shift their weight, whatever it might be, to give 1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:50.719 you an idea, a little bit of a an edge 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:52.840 as to what they're thinking about doing and how they're 1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:58.639 going to do it. So those guys are a challenge, 1:20:58.720 --> 1:21:01.680 I mean, a supreme it's the ultimate challenge. It's the 1:21:01.720 --> 1:21:04.880 best that the NFL has to offer the best of 1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:09.240 the best. But if you perform well, all of a sudden, 1:21:09.200 --> 1:21:12.240 there be around the league is Oh wow, man, who's 1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:15.120 seventy one over there right tackle for the Bengals. Yeah, 1:21:15.880 --> 1:21:18.479 I've heard about him, mimp. That dude's a player, man. 1:21:18.880 --> 1:21:21.799 Look at look at how he handled u Michaeh. Parsons 1:21:21.840 --> 1:21:24.160 on the edge. Not a whole lot of people can 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:27.280 handle Michael Parsons like that. Toss him around and and 1:21:27.360 --> 1:21:30.240 uh and keep him from you know, wrecking a football 1:21:30.280 --> 1:21:33.559 game against your offensive football team. So that's how you 1:21:33.640 --> 1:21:34.960 have to look at it. You have to look at 1:21:35.040 --> 1:21:39.719 it as not like, oh boy, what's gonna what's gonna 1:21:39.720 --> 1:21:41.680 happen to me? I mean, how many times are you 1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:43.439 gonna beat me? You don't want to go in there 1:21:43.479 --> 1:21:45.240 thinking negatively. You want to go in there just the 1:21:45.240 --> 1:21:49.519 opposite thinking positively. It's my time to shine. I get 1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:52.320 a chance to go block Michaeh. Parsons, I'm gonna show 1:21:52.360 --> 1:21:54.480 the league I'm a football player. 1:21:54.680 --> 1:21:56.799 All right, Well, take a time out. Coming up next, 1:21:57.080 --> 1:22:01.080 Joe Flacco explains why he is still playing at the 1:22:01.120 --> 1:22:04.040 age of forty. This is the Bengals pep Rally Show 1:22:04.080 --> 1:22:06.720 presented by Just Beared Chicken live from the on the 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:13.040 Ryan Eatery on ESPN fifteen thirty. On first and goal 1:22:13.120 --> 1:22:17.360 from the five, Flacco looking to pass his throw caught 1:22:17.640 --> 1:22:20.479 in the middle of the end zone by Cedric Tilman 1:22:20.840 --> 1:22:23.200 for a Cleveland go ahead touchdown. 1:22:23.680 --> 1:22:27.120 Joe Flacco gives the old fish pump have to throwing 1:22:27.200 --> 1:22:30.519 that pass in the middle of the field, realizing that 1:22:30.640 --> 1:22:34.000 his receiver caught it for the touchdown, good route run 1:22:34.040 --> 1:22:37.760 by Cedric Tilman. Flaco had his eyes on him the 1:22:37.760 --> 1:22:39.640 whole way and delivered a strike. 1:22:40.840 --> 1:22:43.400 That was Back in Week one, Joe Flacco threw for 1:22:43.400 --> 1:22:46.439 two hundred and ninety yards in that game, again Cincinnati. Fortunately, 1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:48.920 the Bengals came away with the win, thanks in part 1:22:48.960 --> 1:22:53.200 to some poor kicking by the Browns a rookie kicker 1:22:53.920 --> 1:22:57.439 Andre Schmidt. But in any case, wasn't Joe Flacco's fault. 1:22:57.479 --> 1:22:59.439 He played well and now he'll look to play well 1:22:59.439 --> 1:23:02.960 in a Bengals uniform this Sunday and beyond until the 1:23:03.000 --> 1:23:07.599 return of Joe Burrow. Joe Flacco a former Super Bowl MVP. 1:23:07.880 --> 1:23:12.000 This is his eighteenth NFL season. He's made something like 1:23:12.040 --> 1:23:15.000 one hundred and eighty four million dollars in the NFL. 1:23:15.479 --> 1:23:19.280 He's the father of five. He's a terrific guy. From 1:23:19.320 --> 1:23:21.720 all accounts. Everybody that knows him seems to love him. 1:23:21.960 --> 1:23:24.080 I asked him earlier today, all right, with all of 1:23:24.080 --> 1:23:26.880 those accolades and the money and the young family, et cetera, 1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:28.479 why are you still doing it? 1:23:28.479 --> 1:23:30.880 Here's what he had to say. 1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:34.040 I just feel like I have like a lot to 1:23:34.120 --> 1:23:38.160 offer to a football team. I feel like I've put 1:23:38.160 --> 1:23:40.599 in a lot of work my whole life to get 1:23:40.640 --> 1:23:42.640 to this point in just terms of playing in the 1:23:42.760 --> 1:23:46.400 NFL in general, and I have a I hopefully will 1:23:46.439 --> 1:23:48.439 have a long life when I'm done. But you only 1:23:48.439 --> 1:23:50.680 get a chance to play in the NFL once, and 1:23:51.880 --> 1:23:54.599 I feel like I've worked really hard, like I said, 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:56.759 to be a guy that gets to play in the NFL, 1:23:57.160 --> 1:23:58.799 and I don't want to take that for granted. 1:23:59.560 --> 1:24:00.800 I still like I can play the. 1:24:00.720 --> 1:24:02.640 Game at a high level, and I want to be 1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:04.160 able to look at myself in the mirror when I'm 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:06.680 fifty years old and be able to say that, you know, 1:24:06.760 --> 1:24:07.840 I gave it everything I had. 1:24:10.080 --> 1:24:10.280 Lap. 1:24:10.320 --> 1:24:12.759 When I hear those words from Joe Flacco, I'm reminded 1:24:12.800 --> 1:24:16.400 of something you told me about your first offensive line coach, 1:24:16.560 --> 1:24:19.519 Tiger Johnson, who told you when you were just starting out, 1:24:19.960 --> 1:24:21.160 do this as long as you can. 1:24:22.080 --> 1:24:24.880 Yeah, that was his advice. So you know, it's like, 1:24:24.920 --> 1:24:26.320 do this as long as you can. You're never going 1:24:26.360 --> 1:24:30.040 to find anything like it. It's the most unique way 1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:34.160 to make a living that there is out there. When 1:24:34.200 --> 1:24:38.679 you're a professional athlete, you're blessed and you're very fortunate 1:24:38.680 --> 1:24:42.559 and very lucky. You understand that and take full advantage 1:24:42.560 --> 1:24:46.880 of it. And I think Joe Flacco doesn't want to 1:24:46.920 --> 1:24:51.400 retire too soon and then be watching games say I 1:24:51.439 --> 1:24:53.760 can still do that. I can do that better than him. 1:24:54.120 --> 1:24:55.880 I can throw the ball better than he's throwing it 1:24:55.960 --> 1:24:58.960 Right now. I shouldn't have retired. I still have football 1:24:59.040 --> 1:25:01.920 left in me. You want to be in when you're 1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:04.400 done playing. You want to be an old, washed up, 1:25:05.280 --> 1:25:08.760 retired football player that has nothing left to offer from 1:25:08.760 --> 1:25:12.840 a playing standpoint. Maybe get into coaching, whatever your post 1:25:12.840 --> 1:25:17.360 playing career. But he's not there yet. I think he 1:25:17.439 --> 1:25:19.960 realizes he has miles to go before he sleeps. 1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:23.880 It looked like his career might be over two years ago. 1:25:24.120 --> 1:25:26.320 He was on the couch for much of the season, 1:25:26.360 --> 1:25:28.960 and then the Browns were desperate in late November they 1:25:29.000 --> 1:25:31.479 reached out to him. He wound up starting a few 1:25:31.520 --> 1:25:35.120 weeks later and had this incredible renaissance where he threw 1:25:35.160 --> 1:25:38.160 for three hundred plus yards in four straight games, led 1:25:38.200 --> 1:25:41.080 them to the playoffs, won the Comeback Player of the 1:25:41.160 --> 1:25:45.000 Year award. I think that reinforced his love of the 1:25:45.040 --> 1:25:48.040 game and his desire to keep on going until nobody 1:25:48.080 --> 1:25:48.800 will give me a deal. 1:25:48.920 --> 1:25:52.800 I agree, Dan, because he realized five straight games three 1:25:52.840 --> 1:25:56.680 hundred yards or more passing, I can still play, and 1:25:56.800 --> 1:25:59.559 everybody in the league now knows that I can still play. 1:26:00.160 --> 1:26:02.800 So I mean, there's going to be a lot of 1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:05.880 people out there that would like to have my services, 1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:08.640 you know, and I'm going to be paid well for 1:26:08.720 --> 1:26:11.680 services rendered. I still you know, I made a lot 1:26:11.680 --> 1:26:13.720 of money for my family. I've been very fortunate in 1:26:13.760 --> 1:26:16.280 that regard, but there's nothing wrong with making more. 1:26:16.560 --> 1:26:16.760 You know. 1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:19.720 I might as well go out there and do what 1:26:19.760 --> 1:26:22.639 I can do better than most people can do until 1:26:22.680 --> 1:26:25.400 I can't do it anymore. That's what it boils down to. 1:26:25.960 --> 1:26:29.720 You know, he wasn't done. He wasn't done playing. He 1:26:29.800 --> 1:26:34.439 wasn't done enjoying the locker room with his teammates. You know, 1:26:34.479 --> 1:26:40.320 there's something to be said for that. Like Tiger also said, Man, 1:26:40.400 --> 1:26:43.679 this is unique. Boys, You're never going to experience anything 1:26:43.760 --> 1:26:47.120 like this. You're never gonna experience relationships like this that 1:26:47.920 --> 1:26:51.080 you have with your teammates outside of the game of football. 1:26:51.560 --> 1:26:52.760 Enjoy it while you can. 1:26:52.920 --> 1:26:56.200 Man, when he takes the field on Sunday, he will 1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:59.519 become the first forty year old to ever play for 1:26:59.560 --> 1:27:03.559 the Senseinnati Bengals, the oldest player in franchise history before 1:27:03.640 --> 1:27:07.000 Joe Flacco, long snapper Clark Harris, who is still in 1:27:07.000 --> 1:27:10.240 a Bengals uniform at the age of thirty eight. 1:27:10.600 --> 1:27:11.479 Two hours in the. 1:27:11.400 --> 1:27:15.320 Books, one hour to go Orrin Burks will be here momentarily. 1:27:15.439 --> 1:27:18.360 This is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just 1:27:18.479 --> 1:27:21.240 Baar Chicken, live from the on the Rhine Eatery on 1:27:21.520 --> 1:27:22.799 ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:27:24.520 --> 1:27:27.800 This is fifteen thirty w c came on Snatty, the 1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:31.360 fifty thousand orange and black home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1:27:31.400 --> 1:27:33.799 Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:27:34.479 --> 1:27:38.439 This is Bengals pep Rally presented by Just Bared Chicken 1:27:38.640 --> 1:27:40.240 on the Bengals Radio Network. 1:27:40.520 --> 1:27:40.960 Paycre. 1:27:41.400 --> 1:27:45.040 Paycor is proud to be the official hr software provider 1:27:45.160 --> 1:27:49.479 of the Cincinnati Bengals. 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We 1:28:25.200 --> 1:28:28.080 are live as we are every Friday afternoon here at 1:28:28.120 --> 1:28:30.360 the on the Rhine Eatery, that is the food hall 1:28:30.360 --> 1:28:33.599 above the downtown Kroger. Every week we have a player 1:28:33.720 --> 1:28:36.200 join us in the final hour, and we are delighted 1:28:36.200 --> 1:28:39.519 to welcome our guest today. He's in his eighth NFL season, 1:28:39.720 --> 1:28:42.680 his first year with the Cincinnati Bengals. He's wearing a 1:28:42.720 --> 1:28:44.759 wedding ring today, but he could be wearing a Super 1:28:44.760 --> 1:28:47.600 Bowl ring because he won one last year with the 1:28:47.640 --> 1:28:53.280 Philadelphia Eagles. Let's welcome linebacker and special teams Ace Orrin Berks. 1:28:54.600 --> 1:28:56.760 Thank you guys for having me, happy to be here. 1:28:56.920 --> 1:28:59.720 Thank you for showing tell us about that Super Bowl ring. 1:29:00.080 --> 1:29:02.280 Did that baby look when you opened up the little 1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:04.400 box and got your first look at that ring? 1:29:04.560 --> 1:29:04.760 Yeah? 1:29:04.800 --> 1:29:07.360 Well, the ring ceremony was the weekend before we started camp, 1:29:07.360 --> 1:29:09.960 and I had the ability to go to Philadelphia and 1:29:10.040 --> 1:29:12.639 you know, experience that with my teammates for one last time, 1:29:12.720 --> 1:29:16.360 and you open the box and just taken away by 1:29:16.600 --> 1:29:19.120 how big big the ring is, how the details that 1:29:19.160 --> 1:29:21.679 they put into it, and you know, just the journey 1:29:21.720 --> 1:29:22.479 to get to that point. 1:29:22.520 --> 1:29:24.000 So it was definitely a special moment. 1:29:24.400 --> 1:29:29.559 Yeah, the journey is special. And I never I played 1:29:29.560 --> 1:29:32.320 in the Super Bowl as a player, but never won it. 1:29:33.360 --> 1:29:37.519 But and I remember how crestfallen I was, how bitterly 1:29:37.560 --> 1:29:40.360 disappointed I was in the locker room, and just an 1:29:40.439 --> 1:29:44.599 unbelievable feeling just kind of swarms you, you know, all 1:29:44.640 --> 1:29:49.400 over you. But I do remember that same season winning 1:29:49.439 --> 1:29:52.240 the AOC championship game and going in that locker room 1:29:52.560 --> 1:29:55.880 and how celebratory it was, and it's like, man, it 1:29:55.960 --> 1:29:59.080 was an unbelievable place to be. The adrenaline rush that 1:29:59.160 --> 1:30:01.519 you got was even more than you got when you 1:30:01.560 --> 1:30:04.240 were playing in the football game. What's it like to 1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:06.920 win a Super Bowl? Tell me what the adrenaline rush 1:30:07.080 --> 1:30:08.439 is like when you win the darn thing. 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:11.160 Yeah, you're definitely on a high. Just you know, all 1:30:11.200 --> 1:30:13.240 the emotions and you know kind of comes to you 1:30:13.280 --> 1:30:15.800 in stages. You know, you're kind of in shock right 1:30:15.840 --> 1:30:17.880 after it happens and you don't know what to what 1:30:17.960 --> 1:30:20.120 to expect, of what to think. But I feel like 1:30:20.160 --> 1:30:21.880 it didn't really hit me until the parade. We get 1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:24.879 back to Philadelphia and the streets are filled with Eagles 1:30:24.880 --> 1:30:28.000 fans and you know, just just really get to embrace 1:30:28.040 --> 1:30:30.320 the moment and just be where your feet are and 1:30:30.360 --> 1:30:32.200 that that was just really really cool experience in it 1:30:32.439 --> 1:30:34.400 my wife as well on the parade tour. So I 1:30:34.439 --> 1:30:36.200 hope we can bring that here to Cincinnati. 1:30:36.280 --> 1:30:36.679 Amen. 1:30:37.000 --> 1:30:37.400 That's up. 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:39.439 We're all hoping for no doubt. 1:30:39.520 --> 1:30:41.679 I mentioned it's year eight for you in the NFL 1:30:41.880 --> 1:30:44.280 or and in the previous seven you've been on playoff 1:30:44.320 --> 1:30:47.799 teams six times. Wow, you have been on winning teams 1:30:48.320 --> 1:30:50.559 year after year after year. Do you feel blessed that 1:30:50.600 --> 1:30:51.360 that's been the case. 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:52.160 Yeah, definitely. 1:30:52.320 --> 1:30:55.320 I have a very fortunate path, you know, starting with 1:30:55.360 --> 1:30:58.200 Green Bay, going to San Francisco, and then finishing with 1:30:58.200 --> 1:31:01.120 with the with the Eagles last year missing the playoffs. 1:31:01.160 --> 1:31:06.799 Only my rookie year have I think five NFC championship games, 1:31:07.880 --> 1:31:10.599 two Super Bowls in a row. Like it's It's unheard 1:31:10.640 --> 1:31:13.479 of in anybody's career. So I don't take anything for granted. 1:31:13.560 --> 1:31:16.719 But you know, in all those situations at the locker 1:31:16.800 --> 1:31:18.840 room is the key having a great group of guys 1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:21.040 that get what it takes, you know, to get to 1:31:21.080 --> 1:31:23.840 that level and you're going to experience some anniversary like 1:31:23.880 --> 1:31:25.960 we are right now, and you know, it's how you 1:31:26.000 --> 1:31:26.680 bounce back from that. 1:31:27.920 --> 1:31:32.320 So your quarterback is forty years old, That to me 1:31:32.479 --> 1:31:34.880 is mind boggling, and I'm like, you got to be 1:31:34.960 --> 1:31:38.240 kidding me. He can still come and play in the 1:31:38.360 --> 1:31:41.559 National Football League at a high level, not just play, 1:31:41.920 --> 1:31:45.639 but play in a dominant type level of performance at 1:31:45.640 --> 1:31:48.200 the age of forty years old. I mean, there's no 1:31:48.360 --> 1:31:52.599 quit in Joe Flacco. What what is he? When when 1:31:52.760 --> 1:31:55.160 the players saw him for the first time, you know, 1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:57.400 in the locker room walking around or whatever and getting 1:31:57.400 --> 1:32:00.360 ready to go out and perform, what was going for 1:32:00.400 --> 1:32:03.839 everybody's mind. It was like, yeah, man, check out Joe Flacco. 1:32:04.400 --> 1:32:05.559 He looks pretty good, doesn't he. 1:32:05.920 --> 1:32:06.120 Yeah. 1:32:06.160 --> 1:32:08.240 I think immediately he just brings a sense of poise 1:32:08.280 --> 1:32:11.120 and experience. You know, he's seen probably every look you 1:32:11.160 --> 1:32:13.840 could think of in the game of football. Yeah, just 1:32:14.400 --> 1:32:16.320 throw into a lot of great receivers in this time. 1:32:16.360 --> 1:32:19.599 But again, just his poise, the way he handles the huddle. Huddle, 1:32:20.080 --> 1:32:22.000 even just his first week with a new offense, it 1:32:22.040 --> 1:32:23.719 seems like he's been in this offense for a while. 1:32:23.720 --> 1:32:27.280 From from a deepest perspective, so excited to see what 1:32:27.320 --> 1:32:28.000 he does this week. 1:32:28.520 --> 1:32:31.920 I saw the news break on social media. Jamar Chase 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:34.840 said yesterday that t Higgins called him with the news. 1:32:35.000 --> 1:32:37.600 Jamar said he thought it was BS, but then he 1:32:37.680 --> 1:32:39.599 double checked and it turned out to be true. How 1:32:39.600 --> 1:32:42.400 did you learn that Joe Flacco is now your teammate? 1:32:42.640 --> 1:32:44.240 Yeah, I was actually in the in the locker room 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:47.240 getting some recovery in on the off day, and you know, 1:32:47.920 --> 1:32:50.439 reading reading through social media, and I see it pop up, 1:32:50.479 --> 1:32:51.880 and you know, there's a couple other guys in the 1:32:51.880 --> 1:32:53.120 locker room at the same time, so all of our 1:32:53.160 --> 1:32:54.720 heads pop up at the same time. We're like, WHOA, 1:32:54.720 --> 1:32:56.720 what the heck is going on? So it's just one 1:32:56.760 --> 1:32:59.000 of those moments. I feel like for fans, they think 1:32:59.040 --> 1:33:00.800 we get the inside scoop beforehand, but a lot of 1:33:00.840 --> 1:33:03.320 times we're finding out at the same time as the 1:33:03.320 --> 1:33:07.080 fans do. So uh, Yeah, just welcome him with open arms, 1:33:07.120 --> 1:33:09.320 and you know he's gonna step in and do his job. 1:33:10.479 --> 1:33:13.519 That's that's the thing I think that's impressive about him 1:33:14.320 --> 1:33:17.280 step in and be a good teammate and do his job. 1:33:18.200 --> 1:33:20.840 Guys that I've talked to, both coaches and players with 1:33:20.840 --> 1:33:23.400 the Bengals and other teams, say that this guy is 1:33:23.520 --> 1:33:27.080 ego lists. You know, it's not all about Joe Flacco. 1:33:27.240 --> 1:33:31.280 You know, he's not. He's not looking at teammates and saying, 1:33:31.280 --> 1:33:33.559 you know, you're beneath me. You know, I've played in 1:33:33.600 --> 1:33:37.040 this league forever, longer than you're ever gonna think about playing, 1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:39.360 and I put up numbers that you're never gonna even 1:33:39.400 --> 1:33:44.320 think about matching. But it's it doesn't phase him the 1:33:44.360 --> 1:33:46.400 way that you think it might. What type of guy 1:33:46.479 --> 1:33:47.960 is Joe Flacco in the locker room? 1:33:48.240 --> 1:33:50.599 Yeah, I've had a few encounters with him, but every 1:33:50.600 --> 1:33:52.960 one of them has been, you know, a great delight 1:33:53.120 --> 1:33:55.200 just really getting to know him as a person. And 1:33:55.320 --> 1:33:57.280 the way that he leads as a quarterback is gonna 1:33:57.280 --> 1:33:59.720 be different from somebody else, you know, But like I said, 1:33:59.760 --> 1:34:02.880 the experience that he has, he definitely, you know, carries 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:06.360 that in his professionalism and his poise and excited to 1:34:06.360 --> 1:34:08.559 see how it turns out for this weekend in Green Bay. 1:34:09.080 --> 1:34:12.400 He played against him before. Anything stand out from those 1:34:12.439 --> 1:34:13.280 previous meetings. 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:14.040 Yeah, he can. 1:34:14.080 --> 1:34:15.840 He can definitely deal the ball and get the ball 1:34:15.880 --> 1:34:17.519 out when he needs to. He is on time with 1:34:17.560 --> 1:34:20.400 all of his reads. You know, we just played the 1:34:20.400 --> 1:34:23.040 Browns not too long ago, so you know, matching up 1:34:23.080 --> 1:34:25.120 against this guy now he's in our locker room is 1:34:25.320 --> 1:34:27.760 always a crazy thing in the league where you know, 1:34:27.960 --> 1:34:29.519 at any point in time and he could be in 1:34:29.560 --> 1:34:31.280 your locker room, you can get traded, you know, this 1:34:31.400 --> 1:34:34.120 crazy stuff that could happen. But excited to have him 1:34:34.160 --> 1:34:34.519 on board. 1:34:35.400 --> 1:34:39.400 He's playing against Green Bay Packers his second time. 1:34:39.520 --> 1:34:40.559 Yeah, this year that he's. 1:34:40.439 --> 1:34:44.200 Played three weeks, three weeks that he's played against the 1:34:44.800 --> 1:34:47.400 Green Bay Packers, So he knows what he's going to 1:34:47.439 --> 1:34:50.040 be looking at. He knows what the Green Bay Packers 1:34:50.040 --> 1:34:53.120 have defensive and they have a good, solid defensive football 1:34:53.120 --> 1:34:58.800 team everywhere. They've got sound NFL players. But you know, 1:34:59.360 --> 1:35:02.960 you're in a shitch situation where this this game is important. 1:35:02.960 --> 1:35:04.840 Then you have three in a row at home that 1:35:04.960 --> 1:35:07.960 you can really make some Hey, how important is this 1:35:08.080 --> 1:35:11.960 stretch and does Joe Joe flaccoll obviously realize realizes how 1:35:12.000 --> 1:35:14.679 important it is. And I'm sure he's excited about leading 1:35:14.680 --> 1:35:15.400 the football team. 1:35:15.640 --> 1:35:15.880 Yeah. 1:35:15.920 --> 1:35:18.200 For him, it's just getting into rhythm. You know, in 1:35:18.479 --> 1:35:21.320 this new offense. He could almost write this scout of report. 1:35:21.320 --> 1:35:22.639 You know, like you said, he played him a couple 1:35:22.640 --> 1:35:24.719 of weeks ago, so he's very familiar with their personnel. 1:35:25.439 --> 1:35:27.559 But it's it's a familiar with our defense, you know. 1:35:27.560 --> 1:35:29.720 I know he's putting the time in extra meeting with 1:35:29.760 --> 1:35:32.639 the coaches and the players to be at his put 1:35:32.640 --> 1:35:35.240 his best foot forward. So it's our job, you know, 1:35:35.280 --> 1:35:37.759 as guys that have been here, that that have established 1:35:37.800 --> 1:35:40.559 culture with the Bengals, and really everybody's got to elevate 1:35:40.600 --> 1:35:43.639 their game, special teams, defense, everybody has to do their 1:35:43.680 --> 1:35:46.960 part to you know, uplift his his his debut as 1:35:46.960 --> 1:35:47.400 a Bengal. 1:35:47.880 --> 1:35:50.200 Our special guest today here in the Bengals pep Rally 1:35:50.240 --> 1:35:52.640 Show is linebacker Oran Burks. We are live at the 1:35:52.760 --> 1:35:56.120 on the Ryan Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. When we 1:35:56.240 --> 1:35:58.679 come back, well, listen back to one of the key 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:01.760 plays that Oron made in the playoffs last year. Helped 1:36:01.800 --> 1:36:04.920 the Philadelphia Eagles win a Super Bowl title. This is 1:36:04.920 --> 1:36:11.160 the Bengals pep Rally Show on ESPN fifteen thirty. 1:36:13.240 --> 1:36:15.280 Welcome back to the Bengals pep. 1:36:15.120 --> 1:36:18.560 Rally Show, presented by just Baar chick In. We appreciate 1:36:18.560 --> 1:36:20.760 the Bengals fans are with us here this afternoon. We're 1:36:20.760 --> 1:36:23.280 getting you set for the Bengals and Packers coming up 1:36:23.320 --> 1:36:26.360 at lambeau Field this Sunday at four to twenty five. 1:36:26.400 --> 1:36:28.840 The Bengals looking to even the record at three and 1:36:28.960 --> 1:36:31.560 three before coming home for three home games in a 1:36:31.680 --> 1:36:35.920 row against the Steelers, Jets, and Chicago Bears. Our special 1:36:35.960 --> 1:36:39.120 guest this afternoon is Orrin Burks. As we mentioned earlier, 1:36:39.120 --> 1:36:42.280 he captured a Super Bowl ring excuse me last year 1:36:42.600 --> 1:36:45.880 as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. To win that 1:36:45.960 --> 1:36:50.400 Super Bowl, Philadelphia had to capture four postseason games. The 1:36:50.479 --> 1:36:54.519 first playoff game was against the Green Bay Packers, and 1:36:54.560 --> 1:36:58.200 we're gonna listen back to how that playoff game began. 1:37:01.040 --> 1:37:04.760 Keyshawn Nixon is deep and we're underway another game in 1:37:04.800 --> 1:37:07.680 the National Football League postseason. Nixon will take it on 1:37:07.720 --> 1:37:09.439 the far side. Outside of the numbers to the twenty 1:37:09.520 --> 1:37:12.280 on a diagonal twenty five and he is smashed and 1:37:12.400 --> 1:37:16.000 he lost the football. It's inside the thirty and recovered 1:37:16.040 --> 1:37:21.599 by the Eagles. Or and Burks knocked it loose. 1:37:22.720 --> 1:37:24.080 Boy, what a hit that was. 1:37:25.640 --> 1:37:31.200 Or In Burkes just laid an unbelievable shot on Keyshawn 1:37:31.360 --> 1:37:33.080 Nixon to knock that ball out. 1:37:33.240 --> 1:37:34.320 Holy count. 1:37:36.720 --> 1:37:39.760 That's quite a way to begin the playoffs by forcing 1:37:39.800 --> 1:37:43.320 a fumble on the opening kickoff that your team recovers 1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:46.120 to begin the road to winning a Super Bowl. 1:37:46.280 --> 1:37:47.240 Describe that play. 1:37:47.680 --> 1:37:48.439 Yeah, it's special. 1:37:48.840 --> 1:37:50.600 You know, before the game, I told myself that I 1:37:50.600 --> 1:37:52.680 wanted to have a game, a play that was going 1:37:52.720 --> 1:37:55.080 to change the game. And you know, what better way 1:37:55.120 --> 1:37:57.600 to set the tone for the playoffs and than the 1:37:57.840 --> 1:37:59.000 force funball and the kickoff. 1:37:59.040 --> 1:38:01.880 So obviously a lot of a lot of emotions right 1:38:01.920 --> 1:38:02.200 after that. 1:38:02.200 --> 1:38:05.680 I probably blacked out, didn't know what happened afterwards, but uh, 1:38:05.720 --> 1:38:08.120 you know, really just wanted to it force like the 1:38:08.360 --> 1:38:11.240 physicality that we wanted to have the whole throughout the 1:38:11.280 --> 1:38:13.400 whole playoffs. So that really set the tone. 1:38:14.080 --> 1:38:17.800 That play like that, in the physicality, like you talking about, 1:38:17.880 --> 1:38:20.240 that's contagious to the rest of your teammates. 1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:21.280 But when you. 1:38:21.880 --> 1:38:26.760 Force the turnover on special teams on the first, very 1:38:26.800 --> 1:38:30.320 first time the ball is in play, the balls kicked 1:38:30.880 --> 1:38:34.760 return man's returning the football, Arren Burks knocks it out 1:38:34.760 --> 1:38:37.960 of his possession, puts a big hit on him. You 1:38:38.160 --> 1:38:41.599 changed the game. I mean, the whole dynamic changes now 1:38:41.640 --> 1:38:45.160 all of a sudden, they're they're behind the possession. You 1:38:45.160 --> 1:38:47.800 guys have an extra possession. They're never able to catch 1:38:47.880 --> 1:38:51.759 up unless you have a miserable, miserable day of turnovers yourself. 1:38:52.080 --> 1:38:54.120 Did any of that go through your mind or was 1:38:54.120 --> 1:38:56.880 it just pure elation of man I hit the crap. 1:38:56.640 --> 1:38:57.080 Out of him. 1:38:57.120 --> 1:39:00.680 Man, Yeah, I mean honestly, right away I was like, 1:39:00.680 --> 1:39:01.960 I hope I don't get a flag off of this, 1:39:03.120 --> 1:39:05.360 which was you know, it would have been worth it 1:39:05.360 --> 1:39:07.559 in the and then but uh, you know, I've just 1:39:07.600 --> 1:39:10.040 made a great wrap tackle and our offense goes and 1:39:10.080 --> 1:39:13.280 scores right away, you know, again just to start ahead. 1:39:13.280 --> 1:39:15.320 And then at the end end of the next half 1:39:15.560 --> 1:39:17.639 we start with the ball against. Yeah, that's that's a big, 1:39:17.720 --> 1:39:18.639 big piece intended. 1:39:19.200 --> 1:39:20.920 You get the ball to start the second half, and 1:39:21.240 --> 1:39:23.160 you've basically got it to start the game as well 1:39:23.160 --> 1:39:24.839 because of your play. It's unreal. 1:39:25.000 --> 1:39:25.200 Yeah. 1:39:25.840 --> 1:39:29.479 So you were a key special teamer for Philadelphia last 1:39:29.520 --> 1:39:32.280 year and a valuable part of the linebacker rotation as well. 1:39:32.439 --> 1:39:35.320 But then in the postseason, na Kobe Dean gets hurt, 1:39:35.760 --> 1:39:38.439 you move into the starting lineup. You start the last 1:39:38.439 --> 1:39:41.799 three playoff games, including the Super Bowl. You played great, 1:39:42.400 --> 1:39:46.679 also forced to fumble in the NFC Championship game against Washington. 1:39:47.120 --> 1:39:49.639 So what did it mean to you to be thrust 1:39:49.720 --> 1:39:52.519 into that role when it mattered most and deliver? 1:39:52.960 --> 1:39:53.160 Yeah? 1:39:53.200 --> 1:39:55.559 For me, always prepare like I'm a starter. You know, 1:39:55.760 --> 1:39:57.880 never know when your opportunity is gonna come. And you know, 1:39:57.960 --> 1:40:01.240 throughout my career, I've been a still harder special teams 1:40:01.280 --> 1:40:02.800 ace and you know, I kind of up and down. 1:40:02.840 --> 1:40:04.960 And for me, I just have so much joy in 1:40:05.000 --> 1:40:06.599 the process of learning about myself. 1:40:06.640 --> 1:40:08.879 What is going to prepare me to be the best. 1:40:08.640 --> 1:40:11.000 When when I get on the field, and uh, just 1:40:11.080 --> 1:40:13.720 really enhancing my room, the people around me. That's always been, 1:40:13.880 --> 1:40:16.439 you know, something I take great pride in, uh. And 1:40:16.560 --> 1:40:18.960 you know, to have the opportunity to play in the postseason. 1:40:18.960 --> 1:40:20.760 I have a ton of respect for Nakobe and the 1:40:20.800 --> 1:40:22.479 way that he led the team this past year. 1:40:22.920 --> 1:40:23.160 Uh. 1:40:23.200 --> 1:40:25.719 And you for me, a lot of it was doing 1:40:25.800 --> 1:40:28.040 him him him justice, you know, for him to go out. 1:40:28.040 --> 1:40:29.719 It is really tough to have a great year. 1:40:30.160 --> 1:40:30.320 Uh. 1:40:30.320 --> 1:40:32.080 But I wanted to put my best foot forward for. 1:40:32.160 --> 1:40:35.519 The team, uh, to add value where I could, and uh, 1:40:35.560 --> 1:40:37.760 you know it just led to even more of a 1:40:37.800 --> 1:40:40.479 special you know, super Bowl like having that that role, 1:40:40.560 --> 1:40:43.400 you know, going throughout postseason. Uh and knowing that it 1:40:43.439 --> 1:40:45.400 was mostly special teams, you know, throughout the whole year. 1:40:45.400 --> 1:40:46.760 But I knew I was gonna be ready when my 1:40:46.800 --> 1:40:47.680 opportunity came up. 1:40:48.760 --> 1:40:50.320 Heck of a heck of a thing to be on 1:40:50.360 --> 1:40:53.519 a super Bowl winning team. Man, that that's some memory 1:40:53.560 --> 1:40:56.880 that will be there forever for sure. Let's go back 1:40:56.920 --> 1:40:59.840 to maybe even high school and maybe even earlier than that. 1:41:00.760 --> 1:41:04.599 What coach was it that taught you the fundamentals the 1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:07.760 techniques necessary to be able to compete in the game 1:41:07.760 --> 1:41:10.400 of football? I mean, who was that that I saw? 1:41:10.520 --> 1:41:10.720 Oh? 1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:13.280 This guy, man, he's a specialmen. 1:41:13.560 --> 1:41:15.120 This kid's gonna be able to play. 1:41:15.439 --> 1:41:17.720 I have to do everything I can to just teach 1:41:17.800 --> 1:41:19.400 him as much as I know about the game. 1:41:19.880 --> 1:41:20.519 Who is the guy? 1:41:21.200 --> 1:41:24.559 Yeah, there's a couple I was actually a late, late 1:41:24.640 --> 1:41:28.880 starter to football. I played basketball, baseball, soccer, and I 1:41:28.920 --> 1:41:31.320 didn't really play football until my freshman year of high school. 1:41:32.120 --> 1:41:34.679 And that was really just to hang out with my friends. 1:41:34.680 --> 1:41:36.760 You know, going into you know, high school, you want 1:41:36.880 --> 1:41:39.480 to gather as many friends as you can, and sure. 1:41:39.280 --> 1:41:40.519 A lot of them were playing football. 1:41:40.920 --> 1:41:46.120 So I loved being competitive in athletics and just naturally 1:41:46.120 --> 1:41:47.840 thought i'd be a wide receiver. I was a tall 1:41:47.880 --> 1:41:50.600 guy and played safety as well, and I you know, 1:41:50.840 --> 1:41:53.639 moved all over the ball on defense throughout my time 1:41:53.800 --> 1:41:56.240 in high school. But one coach in particular, I would 1:41:56.240 --> 1:41:59.519 say Jerry Pinoni. He was my coach basically my junior 1:41:59.600 --> 1:42:02.840 year on and he just really instilled just hard work, 1:42:02.920 --> 1:42:05.160 running to the ball, like all the fundamentals that you 1:42:05.200 --> 1:42:08.240 need in terms of mentality that you know, really kind 1:42:08.240 --> 1:42:09.920 of helped me become the player I am today. And 1:42:10.640 --> 1:42:13.360 that's kind of when my football career took off. Was 1:42:13.560 --> 1:42:15.639 about my junior year. We went on the States run, 1:42:16.120 --> 1:42:18.599 ended up losing the state championship game, but that's when 1:42:18.600 --> 1:42:20.160 I really fell in love with the game of football, 1:42:21.040 --> 1:42:23.880 just the guys around me. Kwamena Van Dyke was one 1:42:23.880 --> 1:42:26.160 of my best friends that he was a linebacker with 1:42:26.200 --> 1:42:27.640 me as well, and he just taught me a lot 1:42:27.720 --> 1:42:30.240 about the physicality and the mindset that you have to have. 1:42:31.200 --> 1:42:33.439 And a number of guys that I'm still friends with today. 1:42:33.479 --> 1:42:35.040 I have a group text with guys that I went 1:42:35.080 --> 1:42:37.880 to problem with. Really, it's just special to have those 1:42:37.880 --> 1:42:40.479 people that you grew up with have bonded with and 1:42:40.520 --> 1:42:43.439 they share very similar values. We're all married, have kids 1:42:43.439 --> 1:42:45.360 and stuff now, so it's kind of cool to share 1:42:45.360 --> 1:42:49.439 those stories. But push Bnoni. He instilled a great deal 1:42:49.520 --> 1:42:52.000 that hard work and work ethic and all of us. 1:42:52.120 --> 1:42:54.799 Is she still with us, Yes, he's still with us. Yeah. Yeah, 1:42:54.840 --> 1:42:56.160 well he's got to be proud of you. Man. 1:42:56.200 --> 1:42:58.560 Absolutely, she reached out here. Yeah. 1:42:58.280 --> 1:43:00.559 Yeah, we keep in contact probably once year, at least 1:43:00.560 --> 1:43:02.200 once a year or so. But yeah, he's doing a 1:43:02.200 --> 1:43:03.000 great jobs. Cool. 1:43:03.080 --> 1:43:06.599 Yeah, he played college football at Vanderbilt. How heavily were 1:43:06.600 --> 1:43:08.400 you recruited and why did you choose Vandy? 1:43:08.720 --> 1:43:08.960 Yeah? 1:43:08.960 --> 1:43:11.679 I ended up with I think it was like fifteen offers, 1:43:12.320 --> 1:43:15.400 but ultimately got it down between UVA and Vanderbilt's very 1:43:15.479 --> 1:43:16.320 similar schools. 1:43:17.920 --> 1:43:19.439 Yeah, academics was very important. 1:43:19.800 --> 1:43:23.200 My sister she played softball and ended up at Stanford 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:26.519 for so for our family, you know, academics was something 1:43:26.600 --> 1:43:30.040 very important being a student athlete. So ultimately take the 1:43:30.120 --> 1:43:32.680 leap of faith coming out of Nashville. Didn't really know 1:43:32.720 --> 1:43:34.759 anybody down there, but fell in love with the campus, 1:43:34.760 --> 1:43:37.479 the culture, and the guys there, and that was the 1:43:37.479 --> 1:43:39.640 best decision that could have made for me. Met my 1:43:39.680 --> 1:43:42.080 wife there. She went to Belmont and played volleyball there 1:43:42.439 --> 1:43:44.040 right across the street. And volleyball. 1:43:44.160 --> 1:43:44.919 Yeah, volleyball. 1:43:45.120 --> 1:43:49.040 Nice shoutout the volleyball Vanderbilt actually just got a volleyball 1:43:49.040 --> 1:43:52.840 team as well. But yeah, it's it's what we call home. 1:43:53.520 --> 1:43:55.360 That's where we are during the off season. So I 1:43:55.520 --> 1:43:57.080 have a ton of love for Nashville right down the 1:43:57.160 --> 1:43:59.600 road only four hours and this is the closest. 1:43:59.280 --> 1:44:02.679 We've been, you know that. Yeah, with the NFL team. 1:44:02.520 --> 1:44:04.679 So you got to be excited by what Bandy's doing now. 1:44:05.000 --> 1:44:08.600 Absolutely, the guys are rolling. The guys are rolling. You 1:44:08.720 --> 1:44:11.640 got a great quarterback in Pavia and coach Lee. I 1:44:11.760 --> 1:44:15.040 really just just believe what he's doing. He's building this 1:44:15.080 --> 1:44:17.400 program the right way, and the guys are inspired out. 1:44:17.240 --> 1:44:18.160 There on the field. 1:44:19.080 --> 1:44:23.040 So when did you move from receiver defensive back. I mean, 1:44:23.439 --> 1:44:25.680 did you just keep growing and filling out and all that. 1:44:25.800 --> 1:44:28.240 Yeah, I was actual, I was a skinny guy all 1:44:28.280 --> 1:44:32.320 the way through. I was receiver in safety, and then 1:44:32.320 --> 1:44:34.599 my junior year I played like outside and they even 1:44:34.640 --> 1:44:35.920 had my hand in the dirt for a little bit 1:44:35.960 --> 1:44:38.720 playing defensive end, and then moved back to inside and 1:44:39.120 --> 1:44:41.680 had a very similar story in college. I came in 1:44:41.800 --> 1:44:44.880 recruited as a linebacker and then read schard that first year, 1:44:44.960 --> 1:44:46.880 and then I played two years of free safety, so 1:44:46.920 --> 1:44:49.879 I was the middle post running around trying to make tackles, 1:44:49.880 --> 1:44:51.479 and then I played a hybrid and then came back 1:44:51.520 --> 1:44:54.160 to inside linebacker. So I've played all over the field, 1:44:54.520 --> 1:44:56.040 but for me, I always just wanted to find a 1:44:56.040 --> 1:44:57.479 way to add value wherever I was. 1:44:57.560 --> 1:44:58.559 Just find a way to make a play. 1:44:58.640 --> 1:45:01.519 You're a smart football player. The intelligence factor, I know 1:45:01.640 --> 1:45:05.360 is something that the Bengals were attracted to. You've played 1:45:05.400 --> 1:45:09.080 all these positions and these different defensive scheme addicts and everything. 1:45:09.400 --> 1:45:11.920 What did you study academically? What was your What was 1:45:11.960 --> 1:45:12.320 your major? 1:45:12.400 --> 1:45:15.040 Yeah, it was a human organizational development major, which is 1:45:15.080 --> 1:45:17.080 basically our business degree. At Bandy, we didn't have an 1:45:17.120 --> 1:45:19.080 undergrad business school there, so that was that was what 1:45:19.120 --> 1:45:21.639 I pursued and did a corporate strategy minor as well, 1:45:21.680 --> 1:45:24.679 So that's definitely the business business route at Bandy Good. 1:45:24.760 --> 1:45:24.960 Yeah. 1:45:26.760 --> 1:45:26.960 Yeah. 1:45:27.040 --> 1:45:29.240 Have you given much thought to a life post football? 1:45:29.680 --> 1:45:29.800 Uh? 1:45:29.960 --> 1:45:32.479 Yeah, I mean I always just want to be prepared 1:45:32.520 --> 1:45:35.320 whenever that time comes, but milking the league out for 1:45:35.360 --> 1:45:37.040 as long as I can, but do a little bit 1:45:37.080 --> 1:45:39.960 of real estate on the side, some business and things 1:45:39.960 --> 1:45:43.160 like that, but just definitely focused on, you know, making 1:45:43.200 --> 1:45:43.559 the most of. 1:45:43.640 --> 1:45:45.040 His career right now as long as you can. 1:45:45.120 --> 1:45:48.000 Man, I'm telling you, that's that's what Paul Brown and 1:45:48.320 --> 1:45:51.280 my first line coach, Paul Brown, Tiger Tiger John said, 1:45:51.479 --> 1:45:55.160 make them take the uniform off back player as long 1:45:55.200 --> 1:46:01.320 as you can. There's no doubt, There's no question about it. 1:46:01.760 --> 1:46:04.599 So you ever thought about coaching, I mean, I think 1:46:04.640 --> 1:46:09.200 you would be like an unbelievable influence on young players, 1:46:09.200 --> 1:46:14.080 a positive influence in terms of your football IQ and 1:46:14.320 --> 1:46:17.320 your overall ability and versatility and everything you've done in 1:46:17.360 --> 1:46:17.679 the game. 1:46:17.960 --> 1:46:20.559 Yeah, I think I definitely can see myself coaching in 1:46:20.560 --> 1:46:24.080 the future. On what level that is. I have a 1:46:24.080 --> 1:46:26.280 ton of time to figure that out. And sure you know, definitely, 1:46:26.400 --> 1:46:29.600 right when I finished retire, we plan on taking a 1:46:29.680 --> 1:46:31.720 year off and you know, seeing what our family looks like, 1:46:31.840 --> 1:46:35.040 maybe traveling and pursuing those dreams. But you know, down 1:46:35.080 --> 1:46:36.599 the road, I definitely can see myself coaching. 1:46:36.840 --> 1:46:39.280 You've got two rookies in your room and Demetrius Knight 1:46:39.320 --> 1:46:42.280 and Barrett Carter. How much of a mentor ship role 1:46:42.320 --> 1:46:43.280 are you playing with them? 1:46:43.560 --> 1:46:46.160 Yeah, those guys have been great, a great group of rookies. 1:46:46.280 --> 1:46:49.839 They came in with the right mindset. Obviously the athletic ability, 1:46:49.880 --> 1:46:51.800 but I've been really impressed with the way that they've 1:46:51.800 --> 1:46:54.280 been able to pick up this defense and really take 1:46:54.320 --> 1:46:57.320 accountability for it. They're making all the checks, making like 1:46:57.439 --> 1:46:59.800 just flying around, So it's just fun to see. I 1:46:59.800 --> 1:47:02.719 think one of the biggest things that I appreciate it 1:47:02.760 --> 1:47:06.240 is just having a great linebacker room, Logan Wilson leading 1:47:06.240 --> 1:47:08.760 the way and those young guys really stepping up to 1:47:08.840 --> 1:47:09.120 the to. 1:47:09.600 --> 1:47:10.439 The task at hand. 1:47:10.520 --> 1:47:13.200 And I think we have a great group of character 1:47:13.240 --> 1:47:15.920 guys that want to see each other succeed. And that's 1:47:15.960 --> 1:47:18.320 not the same across the league. You know, there's definitely 1:47:18.360 --> 1:47:19.960 some times where you're like you get a little jealous 1:47:20.000 --> 1:47:22.880 here and there, but I really feel that we're truly 1:47:22.920 --> 1:47:26.240 positive with each other, trying to, you know, instill wisdom 1:47:26.280 --> 1:47:28.519 that you can help them become a better players and 1:47:28.560 --> 1:47:29.519 they can help us as well. 1:47:29.600 --> 1:47:31.400 So it's a it's a circle. 1:47:31.800 --> 1:47:34.280 Another thing I remember as a young football player in 1:47:34.320 --> 1:47:38.759 the National Football League was how these athletes are such freaks. 1:47:39.160 --> 1:47:41.479 I mean, they're freaks of nature. And I'm like, I 1:47:41.479 --> 1:47:43.400 don't know if I can do this. I mean, I 1:47:43.439 --> 1:47:45.800 don't know if I could hang with these guys. These 1:47:45.800 --> 1:47:48.320 guys are just it's amazing. I know, I didn't close 1:47:48.360 --> 1:47:49.960 my eyes. How did he get from there to there? 1:47:50.040 --> 1:47:50.240 Man? 1:47:50.960 --> 1:47:52.280 How did he move so fast? 1:47:52.840 --> 1:47:55.840 And I mean it was like Isaac Curtis are one 1:47:55.840 --> 1:48:00.840 of our wide receivers. This guy ran, you know, like 1:47:58.840 --> 1:48:03.759 a like a nine two or nine three hundred meters 1:48:03.840 --> 1:48:05.400 or whatever the heck it was. I mean, he was 1:48:05.400 --> 1:48:09.040 on last guy that didn't make He was an alternated 1:48:09.120 --> 1:48:13.080 on the Olympic team sprinter, and he would just I'm 1:48:13.120 --> 1:48:15.680 just run by people and catch the back half of 1:48:15.720 --> 1:48:18.880 the football. You had sticky fingered hands, like glue on 1:48:18.920 --> 1:48:22.679 his hands. Just a dominant, a dominant at his position group. 1:48:23.280 --> 1:48:25.439 And then a guy named Mike Reid, a defensive lineman 1:48:25.439 --> 1:48:28.080 out of Penn State. This guy was cat quick. It 1:48:28.120 --> 1:48:30.759 was like, oh my gosh, man, this guy's turning fifty 1:48:30.760 --> 1:48:32.800 five hundred and sixty pounds and he moves like he's 1:48:33.040 --> 1:48:35.960 about one eighty. How the heck did these guys do this? 1:48:36.280 --> 1:48:37.000 What are they eating? 1:48:37.040 --> 1:48:40.040 You know, what are they doing in workouts? Did you? 1:48:40.240 --> 1:48:43.040 Did you have any of that? Like when you were 1:48:43.040 --> 1:48:45.120 a young player in the league. It's like, man, this guy, 1:48:45.640 --> 1:48:47.439 I mean, I know, I've watched him. I knew he 1:48:47.479 --> 1:48:49.599 was good, but I didn't realize he was this good. 1:48:50.000 --> 1:48:53.560 Yeah, I mean just coming into the league with Clay Matthews, 1:48:53.600 --> 1:48:57.000 you know, Aaron Rodgers, obviously, Boktiari was a great left tackle. 1:48:57.160 --> 1:48:58.200 Yeah. We had a ton of. 1:48:58.120 --> 1:49:00.519 Guys out there in Green Bay and just seeing what 1:49:00.600 --> 1:49:02.200 they could do at a high level. I was like, 1:49:02.200 --> 1:49:03.640 all right, I gotta step my game up, you know, 1:49:03.760 --> 1:49:06.599 saying so I watched exactly what the bets were doing 1:49:06.680 --> 1:49:07.559 at Mercedes. 1:49:07.600 --> 1:49:08.719 Lewis was a great example. 1:49:08.760 --> 1:49:11.600 He tight end that played in the league for a 1:49:11.600 --> 1:49:14.479 long time. Yeah, I literally just watched what he did. 1:49:14.520 --> 1:49:16.559 He was getting in the song and he was cold plunging. 1:49:16.640 --> 1:49:18.800 He was getting extra work with the trainers, and I 1:49:18.840 --> 1:49:20.120 was like, all right, he's been playing in the league 1:49:20.120 --> 1:49:21.519 for a long time, so I'm going to do exactly 1:49:21.520 --> 1:49:23.920 what he does and taking care of yeah, exactly. So 1:49:24.080 --> 1:49:25.680 from there you kind of figure out what your own 1:49:25.760 --> 1:49:28.240 routine looks like, what works for you, And it's kind 1:49:28.240 --> 1:49:30.080 of a trial and everything you know throughout your career. 1:49:30.120 --> 1:49:31.840 You figure out you know, all right. 1:49:31.800 --> 1:49:33.560 I have to have massage, massage on this day so 1:49:33.600 --> 1:49:36.800 I can feel my best for practice. Yeah, it's just 1:49:36.840 --> 1:49:38.120 a process of figuring out what. 1:49:38.080 --> 1:49:39.400 Works works best for you. 1:49:39.840 --> 1:49:43.120 Linebacker Orrin Burks is our gasty obviously started his NFL 1:49:43.160 --> 1:49:44.559 career with the Green Bay Packers. 1:49:44.600 --> 1:49:45.880 That's where the Bengals are headed. 1:49:45.880 --> 1:49:49.519 This Sunday, we'll talk about the return to Lembo Field. 1:49:51.360 --> 1:49:54.120 This is the Bengals Pep Browley Show presented by Just 1:49:54.280 --> 1:49:57.080 Their Chicken from the on the on the Ryan Eatery 1:49:57.120 --> 1:50:03.639 Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Dave lap Book broadcasting from 1:50:03.680 --> 1:50:06.519 the on the Rind Eatery. This afternoon, if the Bengals 1:50:06.520 --> 1:50:09.799 Pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken, our special 1:50:09.880 --> 1:50:12.879 guest in the final hour of our show is Bengals 1:50:12.920 --> 1:50:16.000 linebacker Arren Burke so Orren spent the first four years 1:50:16.040 --> 1:50:18.040 of his NFL career with the team the Bengals are 1:50:18.080 --> 1:50:18.920 playing this week. 1:50:19.360 --> 1:50:20.639 The Green Bay Packers. 1:50:21.120 --> 1:50:25.240 Defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery spent nine years working for 1:50:25.400 --> 1:50:28.559 Green Bay, and I asked Jerry earlier this week about 1:50:28.560 --> 1:50:30.479 returning to lambeau Field. 1:50:32.080 --> 1:50:34.200 You definitely feel the history. 1:50:34.720 --> 1:50:40.599 It's an unbelievable place to work and unbelievable place to 1:50:40.640 --> 1:50:44.680 play a football game. You walk through the tunnels and 1:50:44.760 --> 1:50:47.519 you fill it. It's neat even practicing there. There's an 1:50:47.560 --> 1:50:50.880 air about it. So and what's cool is when you 1:50:50.920 --> 1:50:53.840 pull in and you see now it's a little different 1:50:53.840 --> 1:50:56.000 now because people have tore down those homes and built 1:50:56.240 --> 1:51:00.240 massive places across the street. They're big tailgate places. It's 1:51:00.280 --> 1:51:03.840 just it's a really neat environment. It's probably as close 1:51:03.880 --> 1:51:09.479 to college environment as you'll feel in most places. But yeah, 1:51:09.640 --> 1:51:12.599 neat venue, a lot of history and cool place. 1:51:14.640 --> 1:51:16.800 Did you feel the history when you played for the 1:51:16.800 --> 1:51:17.679 Green Bay Packers? 1:51:17.800 --> 1:51:21.160 Absolutely everything you said is spot on. It's just a 1:51:21.160 --> 1:51:24.240 special place, especially for me to start my career. There 1:51:25.080 --> 1:51:28.600 a historic organization very much like the Bengals, and you 1:51:28.680 --> 1:51:31.080 definitely feel that sense of pride. Even just going to 1:51:31.080 --> 1:51:33.000 the grocery store on a Wednesday, you see everybody in 1:51:33.040 --> 1:51:36.400 Packers gear and that's consistent every single week. 1:51:36.600 --> 1:51:37.720 They just love football there. 1:51:37.960 --> 1:51:41.559 I categorize it as a grown ups college sound almost. 1:51:41.760 --> 1:51:44.439 It's just that kind of feel just going through a 1:51:44.439 --> 1:51:46.559 neighborhood and then opens up in Lambo's right there. So 1:51:46.640 --> 1:51:48.599 this will be my first time coming back to Lambero 1:51:49.280 --> 1:51:54.559 as an opponent. I've played them almost every year, but 1:51:54.720 --> 1:51:56.840 they've always come to us, so this will. 1:51:56.720 --> 1:51:58.320 Be my first time going back, so that's got to 1:51:58.320 --> 1:51:58.759 be special. 1:51:58.840 --> 1:52:02.439 Absolutely, absolutely look forward to it. You know, I guess 1:52:02.479 --> 1:52:05.320 this one's way off the wall. I guess in terms 1:52:05.400 --> 1:52:11.320 of it's not football related. But people love to be 1:52:11.400 --> 1:52:13.840 part of the Green Bay Packer organization in any way, 1:52:13.880 --> 1:52:17.160 shape or form that they can. And some, just like 1:52:17.240 --> 1:52:21.519 a stadium worker, does their job and does their job 1:52:21.560 --> 1:52:24.639 exceptually well, takes great pride in it. They think they're 1:52:24.680 --> 1:52:28.120 part of the Green Bay Packers organization and uh and 1:52:28.120 --> 1:52:31.760 and those those people are there forever did you make 1:52:31.920 --> 1:52:34.040 friendships you strike up any friendships with any of those 1:52:34.160 --> 1:52:34.639 those folks. 1:52:34.720 --> 1:52:36.120 Yeah, there's a there's a lot of people that I'm 1:52:36.120 --> 1:52:36.880 looking forward to seeing. 1:52:36.920 --> 1:52:39.000 Yeah, when we get back, even from you know, the 1:52:39.040 --> 1:52:41.480 guy that does the headsets, you know on the sideline 1:52:41.520 --> 1:52:43.280 and the equipment guys or a lot of them are 1:52:43.320 --> 1:52:45.759 still there, so it be a lot of familiar faces. 1:52:45.760 --> 1:52:47.839 So looking forward to to catching up with those guys. 1:52:47.840 --> 1:52:48.040 Cool. 1:52:48.080 --> 1:52:49.599 That's one of the cool things about the league is 1:52:49.760 --> 1:52:51.560 when you're in it long enough, it's a lot of 1:52:51.560 --> 1:52:54.880 familiar faces. Everybody bounces around. But like like you said, 1:52:54.920 --> 1:52:57.160 Lambeau Is is just it's just one of those historic 1:52:57.240 --> 1:52:59.680 places that, yeah, everybody just loves to be attached to. 1:53:00.479 --> 1:53:03.000 Green Bay is the smallest city in the US that 1:53:03.040 --> 1:53:05.320 has a major professional sports team. It's a city of 1:53:05.320 --> 1:53:10.280 about one hundred thousand people. Are you instantaneously recognized as 1:53:10.320 --> 1:53:11.200 a Packers player. 1:53:11.360 --> 1:53:13.960 Yeah, let's say you stand out. You stand out a tall, 1:53:14.000 --> 1:53:16.920 black athletic, like a guy you probably probably playing the 1:53:16.920 --> 1:53:20.120 Packers out there. But yeah, it's it's a great town. 1:53:20.200 --> 1:53:23.679 Everybody is very very kind, even to your families while 1:53:23.680 --> 1:53:24.479 you're out in public. 1:53:24.520 --> 1:53:26.160 But I enjoyed my time there. 1:53:27.560 --> 1:53:30.479 When you came to the Cincinnati Bengals, I know you 1:53:30.479 --> 1:53:33.479 would probably you know from a distance seeing guys like 1:53:34.680 --> 1:53:39.559 study watch tape. Back in the day it was film, 1:53:39.600 --> 1:53:43.120 I'd watch film with guys you're watching tape, Jamar, Chase 1:53:43.640 --> 1:53:48.360 T Higgins, Mike Sicky, andre Yosi Vash, these guys that 1:53:48.439 --> 1:53:52.679 can really cause problems for a defensive football team. Are 1:53:52.680 --> 1:53:55.640 you expecting your offense to really go up there and 1:53:56.320 --> 1:54:00.000 make a statement? You know, say to the Green Bay Packers, 1:54:00.120 --> 1:54:02.920 not today. I know it's your home, I know you've 1:54:02.920 --> 1:54:04.920 got a great crowd support, I know you've got a 1:54:04.920 --> 1:54:07.519 fan base that's second to none, But not today. 1:54:08.040 --> 1:54:12.040 Yeah, that's definitely my expectation. It's interesting, this is you know, 1:54:12.080 --> 1:54:13.400 as long as I've been in the league, this is 1:54:13.400 --> 1:54:16.000 my first time being on the AFC side, so you know, 1:54:16.040 --> 1:54:18.080 I've kind of seen these guys from AFAR, but not 1:54:18.120 --> 1:54:22.679 necessarily every year matchup. It's been kind of like sporadic throughout, 1:54:22.760 --> 1:54:26.479 but going through camp and you know, seeing those guys 1:54:26.520 --> 1:54:28.000 up close to the way that they work their work 1:54:28.040 --> 1:54:30.840 ethic and how they get off releases for tomorrow or 1:54:30.840 --> 1:54:33.760 t like all those guys, It's it's impressive. And I've 1:54:33.760 --> 1:54:35.480 been a lot of ben around a lot of greats 1:54:35.720 --> 1:54:38.360 with Davante Adams, and Brandon and I you a couple 1:54:38.400 --> 1:54:40.840 other guys, you know, but these guys are cream of 1:54:40.880 --> 1:54:43.280 the crop, and it's it's fun to be on the 1:54:43.320 --> 1:54:46.080 opposing side. It challenges you even more as especially as 1:54:46.080 --> 1:54:49.960 a linebacker, just finding ways to get underneath to help 1:54:50.000 --> 1:54:51.440 the dbs out on the backside. 1:54:51.480 --> 1:54:54.600 So it's it's been fun to see them up close. 1:54:55.240 --> 1:54:57.800 You were there when Jordan Love was drafted. He had 1:54:57.800 --> 1:55:00.160 to wait his turn for three years before becoming the 1:55:00.160 --> 1:55:03.160 starting quarterback, but I'm sure you practiced against him. What 1:55:03.240 --> 1:55:04.680 are your impressions of Jordan Love? 1:55:04.920 --> 1:55:07.440 Yeah, I mean, he's he's grown so much in his 1:55:07.560 --> 1:55:09.320 in his time in the in the league, and I 1:55:09.360 --> 1:55:11.360 just knew he was gonna be ready when the opportunity came, 1:55:11.680 --> 1:55:14.520 just the way he carried himself. It's obviously a unique 1:55:14.560 --> 1:55:16.680 situation to step in two as a first rounder and 1:55:16.760 --> 1:55:18.880 you know you're you're behind one of the greats, Aaron Rodgers. 1:55:18.960 --> 1:55:20.920 He's gonna be a gold jacket guy in the future. 1:55:20.960 --> 1:55:24.920 But just the way that he handled himself, his intention 1:55:25.040 --> 1:55:27.640 to detail, even on scout team was amazing. He can 1:55:27.720 --> 1:55:30.600 make all the throws, so you just knew that when 1:55:30.640 --> 1:55:32.920 his time was gonna come he was gonna shine. So 1:55:33.720 --> 1:55:35.760 just super proud of him in the way that he 1:55:35.840 --> 1:55:38.360 you know, he's progressed throughout his career, but he's an 1:55:38.360 --> 1:55:40.240 opponent this week, so looking forward to getting after it 1:55:40.280 --> 1:55:40.720 there you go. 1:55:41.520 --> 1:55:45.760 I know when I played, there was like a sense 1:55:45.800 --> 1:55:49.680 of responsibility to the community because the Bengals were such 1:55:49.720 --> 1:55:52.520 a big part of the community. You know, tried to 1:55:52.760 --> 1:55:55.880 put the community in the best light possible, traveling all 1:55:55.920 --> 1:55:59.160 over the different parts of the country, playing games representing 1:55:59.200 --> 1:56:02.760 a city Cincinnati. Same thing with the Reds and they 1:56:02.800 --> 1:56:05.240 had their big run with Pete Rose and Johnny Bench 1:56:05.280 --> 1:56:08.680 and all these all these great players did the green 1:56:08.720 --> 1:56:12.120 Bay Packers, they they have to have a very unique 1:56:12.440 --> 1:56:17.240 relationship with green Bay. They just it has to be 1:56:18.080 --> 1:56:22.160 a bond that's unbelievably special. Do players think about that 1:56:22.200 --> 1:56:24.960 when they're out on the road. You know, we're here 1:56:25.160 --> 1:56:28.760 representing the green Bay Packers and the city of green Bay, 1:56:28.800 --> 1:56:31.400 and we feel so fortunate lucky. 1:56:31.160 --> 1:56:33.240 To do so. Yeah, I definitely feel like that's that's 1:56:33.240 --> 1:56:34.000 part of the equation. 1:56:34.720 --> 1:56:37.720 I think green Bay is very specific and they're the 1:56:37.720 --> 1:56:39.000 only team that's community owned. 1:56:39.440 --> 1:56:42.960 You know, they have a president, not an owner. 1:56:43.040 --> 1:56:44.800 You know it looks a little bit different in terms 1:56:44.840 --> 1:56:47.520 of organization, structure and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, 1:56:47.560 --> 1:56:49.280 definitely a sense of pride and you know the city 1:56:49.360 --> 1:56:52.920 and you want to represent the people correctly. Like when 1:56:52.920 --> 1:56:55.840 you're out there playing hard, even though you know circumstances 1:56:55.840 --> 1:56:57.160 may not be great, you want to you want to 1:56:57.160 --> 1:56:59.440 put your best foot forward and uh know, there's no 1:56:59.520 --> 1:57:02.240 quit and that's been consistent and every city I've been 1:57:02.240 --> 1:57:05.360 in just for me personally, you just taking pride and 1:57:05.400 --> 1:57:07.000 you know, representing the people of that city. 1:57:07.600 --> 1:57:09.760 Aaron Burks is a Bengal now a key member of 1:57:09.760 --> 1:57:12.640 the Cincinnati defense. We'll talk about how the defense has 1:57:12.680 --> 1:57:15.320 been improving in recent weeks when we come back with 1:57:15.360 --> 1:57:16.400 today's special guest. 1:57:16.440 --> 1:57:18.160 This is the Bengals pep Rally Show. 1:57:18.160 --> 1:57:21.560 Presented by Just Bear Chicken, live from the on the 1:57:21.640 --> 1:57:32.600 Ryan Eatery on ESPN fifteen to thirty. Welcome back to 1:57:32.600 --> 1:57:35.720 the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. 1:57:35.760 --> 1:57:37.640 We are live at the on the Ryan Eatery with 1:57:37.720 --> 1:57:41.400 our special guest, Bengals linebacker Oron Burkes. So, last week 1:57:41.480 --> 1:57:44.480 against the Lions, you look at the final score, Detroit 1:57:44.520 --> 1:57:47.360 scored thirty seven points. This might seem strange to say, 1:57:47.400 --> 1:57:50.560 but I felt like the defense actually played pretty well. 1:57:50.600 --> 1:57:53.800 You forced five punts. No team has forced Detroit to 1:57:53.880 --> 1:57:57.160 punt more this year. You got to take away obviously 1:57:57.280 --> 1:57:59.560 a few other scores had to do with short fields. 1:58:00.040 --> 1:58:03.160 You Bengals offensive turnovers, and you're on the field quite 1:58:03.200 --> 1:58:05.160 a bit because there are some three and outs as well. 1:58:05.520 --> 1:58:08.760 How did you feel about the performance last week and 1:58:08.840 --> 1:58:10.280 the way the defense is trended. 1:58:10.600 --> 1:58:13.400 Yeah, I think our resilience was on display, you know, 1:58:14.240 --> 1:58:17.880 tough situations and feel wise, but everybody just bought in, 1:58:18.040 --> 1:58:21.080 Like there's a feeling on the sideline that nobody was 1:58:21.440 --> 1:58:23.440 giving up where you know, that's what you want to see. 1:58:23.480 --> 1:58:25.360 You want to see a team that's willing to fight 1:58:26.080 --> 1:58:29.160 for every blade of grass, and I definitely feel like 1:58:29.200 --> 1:58:32.400 that's something that we take pride in and you know, 1:58:32.440 --> 1:58:34.400 every week we'll continue to get better in the defense. 1:58:34.560 --> 1:58:36.920 Is our first year with Al Golden, and everybody's kind 1:58:36.960 --> 1:58:38.800 of you know, getting a feel for, you know, how 1:58:38.800 --> 1:58:41.680 he calls the game, how each other play within the 1:58:41.720 --> 1:58:44.080 scheme and all of that coming together. I feel like 1:58:44.080 --> 1:58:46.440 we're coming into a defense that is going to help 1:58:46.520 --> 1:58:49.040 us make a great run this year. Yeah, I think 1:58:49.320 --> 1:58:50.240 the chee cheese. 1:58:50.800 --> 1:58:54.720 Al Golden's big believer in the two cheese, turnovers and 1:58:54.800 --> 1:58:58.200 third down. I mean, he wants to get off the field. 1:58:58.240 --> 1:59:00.440 He wants three and outs. He wants as many of 1:59:00.480 --> 1:59:03.360 them as he possibly can get, not let their offense 1:59:03.400 --> 1:59:05.560 get in any kind of rhythm, any kind of timing, 1:59:06.000 --> 1:59:09.040 feel good and about themselves whatsoever. And then he wants 1:59:09.080 --> 1:59:11.360 to take it away. He wants to limit their possessions. 1:59:11.400 --> 1:59:14.440 You can take one less possession that they have. One 1:59:14.480 --> 1:59:17.640 more that you have could be the determining factor in 1:59:17.680 --> 1:59:20.640 the outcome of the football game. What kind of a 1:59:20.680 --> 1:59:24.120 defensive coordinator is Al Golden when you compare him to 1:59:24.200 --> 1:59:27.240 other defensive coordinators you've had during the course of your career. 1:59:27.840 --> 1:59:31.280 Yeah, well, one, he has a linebacker background, so you know, selfishly, 1:59:31.360 --> 1:59:33.440 that's always what I kind of look for in the DC, 1:59:33.680 --> 1:59:36.720 and they kind of can see things from my perspective, Ye, 1:59:36.840 --> 1:59:39.520 you know, make my job a little easier. But I 1:59:39.560 --> 1:59:42.200 think he's very detailed. He expects a lot from us. 1:59:42.560 --> 1:59:44.960 The standard that he said, like you said, turnover is 1:59:44.960 --> 1:59:47.800 a third down and especially the red zone is really 1:59:47.840 --> 1:59:50.040 important to him as well, I feel like you. 1:59:50.000 --> 1:59:51.000 Get what you emphasize. 1:59:51.280 --> 1:59:53.160 So for him, like he's been trying to get us 1:59:53.200 --> 1:59:54.760 to punch the ball out, take the ball away with 1:59:54.800 --> 1:59:58.560 picks and interceptions and any opportunity we can do to 1:59:58.680 --> 2:00:01.360 give offensive back the ball in a great position. 2:00:01.440 --> 2:00:04.120 That's what we're looking to do. And I feel like. 2:00:04.120 --> 2:00:06.960 That's slowly starting to become our identity, you know, over 2:00:07.000 --> 2:00:09.840 these last couple of games, kind of color rhythm and 2:00:09.920 --> 2:00:11.640 hoping to, you know, take it to the next level. 2:00:11.640 --> 2:00:13.440 And that's that's what we're we're looking to do every 2:00:13.440 --> 2:00:13.920 single week. 2:00:14.280 --> 2:00:17.840 Your position coach, Mike Hodges isn't much older than you are. 2:00:18.600 --> 2:00:20.640 Is this the youngest guy that you've played for in 2:00:20.680 --> 2:00:21.200 the NFL? 2:00:24.400 --> 2:00:28.680 I think so, yeah, he might be yeah, I think so, yep, 2:00:29.520 --> 2:00:30.320 he's that different. 2:00:31.160 --> 2:00:33.120 Not really. We have a great working relationship. 2:00:33.520 --> 2:00:36.120 I feel like he's very like he's a young guy. 2:00:36.160 --> 2:00:38.480 He's firing, he's passionate about what he does. He's a 2:00:38.480 --> 2:00:42.360 great communicator, and I feel like with the young guys 2:00:42.360 --> 2:00:45.000 in our room, he's been able to coaching him up 2:00:45.080 --> 2:00:47.160 into a fashion where they can go out there and 2:00:47.160 --> 2:00:50.160 play fast and not worry about making mistakes, and you know, 2:00:50.200 --> 2:00:51.960 all the kind of things that come up being a rookie. 2:00:52.480 --> 2:00:55.000 He's kind of helped them step into their own So 2:00:55.560 --> 2:00:57.600 for me that's refreshing, you know, because you know, I 2:00:57.640 --> 2:00:59.480 had different paths, you know, throughout my career. I had 2:00:59.520 --> 2:01:02.600 to you know, figure out things how I wanted to be, 2:01:02.720 --> 2:01:05.320 you know, on the field. But he's really empowering them 2:01:05.320 --> 2:01:06.880 to be the best player that can be on the field. 2:01:07.040 --> 2:01:11.240 You know, you hit on a point, young players, young coaches, 2:01:11.920 --> 2:01:14.520 young players. That's pretty good dynamic, I think, you know, 2:01:14.600 --> 2:01:17.440 I mean I think that, Uh, I mean, there's not 2:01:17.480 --> 2:01:19.960 a player on the roster with double digit years experience. 2:01:20.000 --> 2:01:20.200 You know. 2:01:20.200 --> 2:01:24.080 It's well, now there is yea, yeah Flackel, Yeah, exactly 2:01:24.560 --> 2:01:28.800 forty year old Joe Flackell. But uh, it's it's amazing 2:01:28.880 --> 2:01:32.120 how young the roster is in terms of I mean 2:01:32.160 --> 2:01:33.160 every position group. 2:01:33.440 --> 2:01:33.640 You know. 2:01:33.680 --> 2:01:36.839 It's like, I think, I think that's a plus. 2:01:36.920 --> 2:01:37.600 I really do. 2:01:37.680 --> 2:01:40.520 I think, particularly as the season wears on, the grind 2:01:40.560 --> 2:01:44.040 of the season, you know, and I think I think 2:01:44.080 --> 2:01:47.760 guys will recover more quickly with the with the youth. 2:01:48.360 --> 2:01:49.040 What do you think? 2:01:49.640 --> 2:01:53.560 Yeah, I mean, being an old guy myself, now, it's 2:01:53.600 --> 2:01:56.400 kind of funny how you know, I can't believe you're 2:01:56.400 --> 2:01:59.360 an old guy. It is actually insane to me that, yeah, 2:01:59.760 --> 2:02:01.920 because they call me unk and all that kind of 2:02:02.440 --> 2:02:05.160 that's crazy. I'm thirty years old. It's it's not that serious. 2:02:05.200 --> 2:02:07.680 But I'm thirty years old. 2:02:07.800 --> 2:02:08.200 Great man. 2:02:08.280 --> 2:02:10.520 I appreciate it. I appreciate It's just funny in this 2:02:10.560 --> 2:02:13.120 profession that that's considered old. You know, any job you 2:02:13.200 --> 2:02:14.520 just kind of get right. 2:02:14.520 --> 2:02:15.640 I embrace it. I embrace it. 2:02:15.680 --> 2:02:17.800 But yeah, we have a lot of a lot of 2:02:17.840 --> 2:02:20.000 young guys with a lot of you know, passion, and 2:02:20.080 --> 2:02:23.160 they're coming from the college where, uh, every week they're 2:02:23.200 --> 2:02:24.880 just like hyped up and ready to go. So you know, 2:02:24.920 --> 2:02:27.160 we're feeding off that energy and I definitely feel like 2:02:27.160 --> 2:02:28.400 that's going to help us a long one. 2:02:28.720 --> 2:02:30.600 All Right, we need to take our final time out. 2:02:30.680 --> 2:02:35.880 When we come back, we will play America's favorite game show, Baby. 2:02:36.480 --> 2:02:37.800 We call it Know Your School? 2:02:38.000 --> 2:02:41.680 Yes, sure, I have questions about Vanderbilt University. You must 2:02:41.680 --> 2:02:45.600 get at least three correct to be a winner. We'll 2:02:45.600 --> 2:02:47.720 put Oran Burkes to the test when we come back. 2:02:47.800 --> 2:02:50.400 This is the Bengals pep Rally Show Live from the 2:02:50.480 --> 2:02:58.120 on the Ryan Eatery on ESPN fifteen thirty and the 2:02:58.120 --> 2:03:03.520 Bengals pep Rally Show presented Just Bear Chicken live from 2:03:03.600 --> 2:03:06.600 the on the Ryane Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. You 2:03:06.640 --> 2:03:09.240 want to thank our special guests or in Burke's for 2:03:09.280 --> 2:03:11.480 coming out in a Friday afternoon and spending an hour 2:03:11.560 --> 2:03:11.880 with us. 2:03:11.920 --> 2:03:13.640 We've got a few minutes left on the show. 2:03:13.840 --> 2:03:18.160 That means it is time to play America's favorite game show. 2:03:18.920 --> 2:03:22.240 We call it Know Your School. I have five questions 2:03:22.640 --> 2:03:26.200 about Vanderbilt University. He must get at least three rights 2:03:26.960 --> 2:03:30.240 to be declared a winner. I see that your wife 2:03:30.280 --> 2:03:34.240 looks quite amused. This quiz is coming up. Are you ready? 2:03:34.400 --> 2:03:37.760 Orn Burks? Question number one. 2:03:37.640 --> 2:03:41.879 Name the former US Vice president known for his climate 2:03:42.080 --> 2:03:47.120 change activism who graduated. You are correct, Al gore Go, 2:03:47.360 --> 2:03:50.120 but graduated from Vanderbilt Law School. As the rest of 2:03:50.160 --> 2:03:54.280 the question, you are one for one. Question number two, 2:03:55.440 --> 2:04:00.520 the last consensus all American at Vanderbilt earned that honor 2:04:00.560 --> 2:04:03.880 at linebacker Zach Zach Cunningham is correct. 2:04:03.920 --> 2:04:06.280 I'm not even I can't even get the whole question out. 2:04:07.680 --> 2:04:09.080 All right, We've ever. 2:04:08.920 --> 2:04:12.880 Had three questions left to get at least one right now? 2:04:12.880 --> 2:04:14.160 If you get this one, then you go for the 2:04:14.160 --> 2:04:18.760 perfect score and bragging rights for eternity. Question number three, 2:04:19.280 --> 2:04:23.760 the most famous building on campus didn't answer right away, 2:04:24.920 --> 2:04:29.640 features a large clock tower and is frequently a hub 2:04:29.680 --> 2:04:31.880 of campus activity. 2:04:32.240 --> 2:04:35.600 So it's on alumni Lawn. I'm blanking on the name 2:04:35.640 --> 2:04:37.840 of the actual building, but I can picture it. 2:04:37.920 --> 2:04:42.280 Yeah, you're right about alumni lawn. That is correct. Kirkland Hall. 2:04:42.920 --> 2:04:43.560 Kirkland Hall. 2:04:43.640 --> 2:04:45.760 All right, so it's not a perfect score, but you've 2:04:45.760 --> 2:04:49.120 got two left to be a winner. Question number four, 2:04:50.240 --> 2:04:54.400 Oh tarn with the buzzer in the background. Question number four, 2:04:54.760 --> 2:04:56.560 who is Vanderbilt University named for? 2:04:57.320 --> 2:04:58.520 Cornelius Vanderbilt? 2:04:58.560 --> 2:05:04.760 You are correcting, Oh, business magnate Cornelius Vanderbilt, who made 2:05:04.800 --> 2:05:09.160 a one million dollar gift in eighteen seventy three. I 2:05:09.240 --> 2:05:11.240 was worth a lot of money back then. Still pretty 2:05:11.240 --> 2:05:16.520 good back then. Cornelius had some dough. Yeah, he was 2:05:16.520 --> 2:05:19.240 like a railroad guy. He had it going on. Yeah, 2:05:19.320 --> 2:05:21.760 all right. Final question is kind of an easy one. 2:05:21.840 --> 2:05:23.480 I should have come up with a tougher one, but 2:05:23.520 --> 2:05:28.360 I'll ask it anyway. Name the former Vanderbilt quarterback known 2:05:28.360 --> 2:05:30.960 for his big arm and his great hair, who was 2:05:31.000 --> 2:05:33.840 a pro bowler in two thousand and eight and named 2:05:33.880 --> 2:05:37.080 one of the top correct top one hundred Chicago Bears. 2:05:36.800 --> 2:05:38.760 Of all time in twenty nineteen. 2:05:39.080 --> 2:05:42.040 The correct answer is Jay Cutler, you got four out 2:05:42.080 --> 2:05:42.480 of five. 2:05:42.720 --> 2:05:48.240 No, your school absolutely wrong. Crowd is IM proud. 2:05:48.240 --> 2:05:49.480 I want to give him four and a half. He 2:05:49.520 --> 2:05:50.480 knew everything about that. 2:05:51.160 --> 2:05:53.320 He kind of knew Kirkland Hall just a blank. 2:05:54.400 --> 2:05:58.240 He had haul Kirkland. That was a storm missing ingredient. 2:05:58.400 --> 2:06:01.320 One of the questions I often ask, which is frequently 2:06:01.320 --> 2:06:03.880 a stumper, is what is the name of the main 2:06:04.320 --> 2:06:07.320 library on campus? Do you know the answer to that? 2:06:07.440 --> 2:06:11.200 At Vandy Main Library? I don't know. I didn't spend 2:06:11.240 --> 2:06:13.400 the time there, so I was. I was in Study Hall. 2:06:13.520 --> 2:06:14.960 It was all the way across campus. 2:06:15.560 --> 2:06:19.040 Here's why I didn't ask. It's Central Library. 2:06:19.080 --> 2:06:21.080 Okay, yeah, it doesn't even have a good name. 2:06:21.320 --> 2:06:25.120 Yeah, cral Central Library, central Library. 2:06:25.240 --> 2:06:26.680 Yeah, we had our own study area. 2:06:26.800 --> 2:06:31.240 So well, clearly you did well not only in school 2:06:31.400 --> 2:06:34.520 but at football and now in the NFL. Eight years, 2:06:34.560 --> 2:06:37.600 my man, that's quite an accomplishment. Hopefully you've got several 2:06:37.600 --> 2:06:40.120 more in you lap played ten years in the NFL 2:06:40.160 --> 2:06:43.280 plus two more in the USFL back when it existed. So, 2:06:44.240 --> 2:06:46.040 like we said at the very beginning, play as long 2:06:46.080 --> 2:06:46.520 as you can. 2:06:46.920 --> 2:06:49.480 I played for the President of the United States Donald 2:06:49.520 --> 2:06:52.720 Trump on the New Jersey General. I could see you 2:06:52.760 --> 2:06:55.280 as president. Get in the politics I. 2:06:55.280 --> 2:06:55.840 Would give. 2:07:02.600 --> 2:07:09.600 All right, Well, let's see, let's start with beating the Packers. Yeah, 2:07:10.080 --> 2:07:14.120 number destroy them, go back to Green Bay and another 2:07:14.160 --> 2:07:16.920 team's uniform and leave Lambeau with a win. 2:07:17.040 --> 2:07:17.520 There we go. 2:07:18.200 --> 2:07:20.120 Hey, we really appreciate you coming out and doing this. 2:07:20.200 --> 2:07:22.920 You have congratulations on a great career to date, including 2:07:22.920 --> 2:07:25.640 a Super Bowl wing a ring rather and we hope 2:07:25.640 --> 2:07:27.680 you're wearing one with the Bengals logo on at the 2:07:27.760 --> 2:07:28.360 end of this year. 2:07:29.200 --> 2:07:35.400 It all right, let's hear it. Let's hear it. That 2:07:35.640 --> 2:07:37.040 is going to just about do it. 2:07:37.040 --> 2:07:39.120 For our show today, we want to thank our engineer 2:07:39.200 --> 2:07:43.680 Mike Mills, who comes out generally sets things up really early. 2:07:44.120 --> 2:07:46.400 That wasn't the case today, but Mike got here in time. 2:07:46.680 --> 2:07:49.800 He came to the rescue for our show. We want 2:07:49.800 --> 2:07:51.480 to thank the folks here at the on the rhyne 2:07:51.560 --> 2:07:53.839 eatery want. We want to thank Nikki from the Bengals 2:07:54.200 --> 2:07:56.960 who's helping us out today. Most of all, thank you 2:07:57.040 --> 2:07:59.480 to the Bengals fans for coming out and being part 2:07:59.480 --> 2:08:02.320 of the show. Love you guys, Appreciate you guys, and 2:08:02.400 --> 2:08:04.800 I hope to see you next time. That's going to 2:08:04.800 --> 2:08:07.000 do it for today's show. 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