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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the Bengals pep Rally
Speaker 3: Show live from me on the Rhine Eatery here in
Speaker 3: downtown Cincinnati. I'm Dan Hord with Dave Lapham. We are
Speaker 3: here until six o'clock tonight as we get you set
Speaker 3: to the Bengals and Green Bay Packers coming up on
Speaker 3: Sunday at lambeau Field beginning at four twenty five in
Speaker 3: the afternoon. Linebacker Orren Burks will be our guest later
Speaker 3: in the show. He is going to be here today
Speaker 3: from five to six, so if you'd like to get
Speaker 3: an autographed or get a picture, Arren Burkes will be
Speaker 3: our special guest the final hour of our three hour show.
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco met with the Cincinnati media today for the
Speaker 3: first time since Tuesday's trade. We will hear from him momentarily,
Speaker 3: but up first on the show this afternoon. My conversation
Speaker 3: with a guy you will hear on the TV broadcast
Speaker 3: this Sunday.
Speaker 4: My son Sam has excellent taste in broadcasters and his
Speaker 4: favorite is not his dad. It's our guest Kevin Harlan,
Speaker 4: who will be on the mic for CBS this week. Kevin,
Speaker 4: we got quite the plot twist this week with the
Speaker 4: Bengals acquisition of Joe Flacco having a Cincinnati assignment this week.
Speaker 5: What was your reaction?
Speaker 6: Stunned? But it makes sense. He knows the division. He
Speaker 6: is a quarterback who has seen everything. He's reached the
Speaker 6: highest of highs. He's had some difficult moments, but he
Speaker 6: continues to go on. You know, Dan, I thought at
Speaker 6: one time that after he had signed the big contract
Speaker 6: with Baltimore and had won the Super Bowl, and he
Speaker 6: I know, he's a family man and all that, and
Speaker 6: I thought, you know, I could see him finding other
Speaker 6: priorities in life. I may be wrong in this assumption,
Speaker 6: and while we've interviewed him over the years, I haven't
Speaker 6: seen him much recently. I think his love for the game,
Speaker 6: which has always been there. It kind of feels like
Speaker 6: it's grown the older he's gotten and the more years
Speaker 6: he's piled up on his resume as being an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 6: He's good at it. He's a great locker room influence,
Speaker 6: and if any team was ready to make a move,
Speaker 6: it was probably yours. Poor Jake was clearly was struggling,
Speaker 6: and this is maybe shot in the arm and Joe
Speaker 6: gets back in December that this team needs. I mean,
Speaker 6: they've got the parts. We all know that. See Lucas
Speaker 6: Patrick is now in that window where he can begin
Speaker 6: to practic this and be good to get him back
Speaker 6: down the road, if not this weekend. But I guess
Speaker 6: my point is is I was thrilled they made them move.
Speaker 6: They're not waving the white flag on the season, not
Speaker 6: that they were thinking of it anyway, but this clearly shows, Hey,
Speaker 6: we're in it, We've got the parts. Let's let's let's
Speaker 6: keep let's keep going. We're only two and three. It's
Speaker 6: not like we're zero and five, right, I mean they're
Speaker 6: two and three. They're very in a division which has
Speaker 6: no Lamar for a while. We don't know how long
Speaker 6: that will be. You never know wh Pittsburgh's going to
Speaker 6: give you in Cleveland continues to find their way.
Speaker 7: Why not?
Speaker 6: I'm it shows aggression and I think every fan would
Speaker 6: appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Let me take it a step further. Kansas City is
Speaker 4: two and three and playing the Lions this week. The Texans,
Speaker 4: with their division titles the last couple of years, or
Speaker 4: two and three, they go to Seattle this week. The
Speaker 4: AFC in general appears to be wide open, doesn't it.
Speaker 6: I agree, Dan, you're on it, and I I would
Speaker 6: say that that these are one but that's it's a
Speaker 6: week to week league, and it's clearly a year to
Speaker 6: year league, and teams you think have got every answer
Speaker 6: at every position in every way are stumbling a bit.
Speaker 6: And now we see that how strong front offices and
Speaker 6: personnel departments can be in trying to, you know, grab
Speaker 6: a stronger hold of the rudder. And clearly the Bengals
Speaker 6: are doing that. Other teams are trying to find their way.
Speaker 6: But it's not what we thought, right. We didn't figure
Speaker 6: two and three Kansas City. We didn't figure a losing
Speaker 6: record with Baltimore, you know, five weeks in. But we're
Speaker 6: seeing it, and I think that it just shows you
Speaker 6: that in this league you need you need ingenuity clearly,
Speaker 6: because you've got to handle problems every single day of
Speaker 6: practice and every week. In this league, you've got to
Speaker 6: look ahead and you've got to make sure that you're
Speaker 6: making the right moves, not for just now, but also
Speaker 6: you know three weeks from now, but know that that
Speaker 6: you can never give up. And how many times, and
Speaker 6: you've called the league for decades, how many times have
Speaker 6: we gotten into the fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen world And
Speaker 6: teams that were maybe at the beginning of the year
Speaker 6: four and eight or three and five or whatever are
Speaker 6: now like right there with the win, can get in
Speaker 6: the playoffs and make a noise that can be resounding.
Speaker 6: So I feel like no team is out. But I
Speaker 6: would backpedal here a bit and say I appreciate what
Speaker 6: a team like the Bengals have done. Now, Listen, there
Speaker 6: were a lot of guys out there, probably with different
Speaker 6: kind of price points on getting adulton or getting you know,
Speaker 6: a backup at this team or that team, And we
Speaker 6: all heard the names over the last couple of days.
Speaker 7: If they were so inclined to look.
Speaker 6: For a punch, a burst, a spark on offense, green
Speaker 6: Bay did it with Micaeh Parsons. I'm not saying that
Speaker 6: Flacco's going to have that same kind of kind of movement,
Speaker 6: but listen, he clearly brings a different dimension to that
Speaker 6: position with a guy that clearly still wants to play.
Speaker 6: So I applaud with the Bengals of and I love
Speaker 6: that in the middle of a season, when you think
Speaker 6: you've got everything just kind of proportioned the right way,
Speaker 6: this happens, or Parsons is traded. And here we have
Speaker 6: those kind of teams, green Bay and Cincinnati meeting this
Speaker 6: week and after making big early season moves.
Speaker 7: To their roster. It's so intriguing to me in so
Speaker 7: many ways.
Speaker 5: We're visiting with Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco's NFL debut is on opening Day two thousand
Speaker 4: and eight against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 8: Do you remember saying, look at the big man run. Well,
Speaker 8: now that you've said it, yes, I do. I do
Speaker 8: remember that, And you know he is.
Speaker 6: His career speaks for itself, not in terms of legendary
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame status, but he's won a Super Bowl,
Speaker 6: he's led winning teams, he's proven he can play in
Speaker 6: this league. He surprised people this stage of his career
Speaker 6: what he can still do. He's incredibly engaged, and I
Speaker 6: think in the locker room, and this is again nothing
Speaker 6: against who has been starting for Joe, but you're always
Speaker 6: you know, it's never time to bail. It's never time
Speaker 6: to you know, every man for himself, right, it's they
Speaker 6: are right in it in a division that is clearly
Speaker 6: within reach. And this, this is the kind of move
Speaker 6: that I applaud and love. But going back to the
Speaker 6: young Flacco I worked with. I worked at the time,
Speaker 6: not with Solomon Wilcotts you know who you guys know
Speaker 6: well there, but also with rich Gannon, and he went
Speaker 6: to Delaware. So I remember those meetings, specifically with a
Speaker 6: young Joe Flacco Dan in those production meetings with the Ravens,
Speaker 6: and how he looked at rich thinking, man, if I
Speaker 6: could only, if I could only have a career like
Speaker 6: rich Gannon, super Bowl player, MVP in the league, played
Speaker 6: deep into his thirties, had some great runs, and and
Speaker 6: not that he didn't think he could do it, but
Speaker 6: he was a young player at the time. And here
Speaker 6: we have him and and he plays then and here
Speaker 6: all these years later, here he is like he's been
Speaker 6: given the keys here to the Ferrari right, Like, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna put the key in and I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 6: feel that engine roar. He's got one side, Jase, He's
Speaker 6: got Higgins on the other. He's got he's got some
Speaker 6: real playmakers on that team. It's gonna be fun, very fun.
Speaker 4: There might be a Ferrari commercial in your future based
Speaker 4: on that engine.
Speaker 5: Uh, wrapping up, Let's of.
Speaker 6: Any other car I should My son is a Ford dealer.
Speaker 6: I probably should have at Ford anyway. The point is
Speaker 6: is is if there's a new guy with the hands
Speaker 6: on the wheel, and that's that's pretty exciting.
Speaker 7: I think at the stage of the year.
Speaker 4: Let's discuss the Packers. They opened the season with dominant
Speaker 4: wins over Detroit and Washington. One of their offensive linemen
Speaker 4: said we might go undefeated this year, and then they
Speaker 4: lost to Cleveland in Week three. What is your view
Speaker 4: of the Packers and the problems they present for Cincinnati
Speaker 4: this week?
Speaker 6: So I do their preseason game, so I've seen him
Speaker 6: throughout the summer and this is pre Parsons arrival, and
Speaker 6: I thought they were a strong team then and the
Speaker 6: general manager came out Dan and he said the Packers
Speaker 6: and he said, he said, We've got to start thinking
Speaker 6: in terms of championships and not just winning records and
Speaker 6: getting into the playoff. We need to think now in
Speaker 6: terms of championships. And here is an organization that has
Speaker 6: been graced with two straight Hall of Fame quarterbacks and
Speaker 6: Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers, and they really are high
Speaker 6: on Jordan Love their quarterback now who is playing well.
Speaker 6: But for whatever reason, they took on a red hot
Speaker 6: Dallas team and they faced one of the great defenses.
Speaker 7: In the league of Cleveland.
Speaker 6: We know Cleveland's got the defense and they had the
Speaker 6: Packers number and probably a loss like that early in
Speaker 6: the season was good for them to not think. You know, hey,
Speaker 6: I read what the lineman said, and he was and
Speaker 6: I'm sure they're going, oh my god, don't talk again.
Speaker 6: Please don't open up mouth. You cannot say in this league.
Speaker 6: It is such an unforgiving league. And these are pros
Speaker 6: on the other end, regardless of what record or history says.
Speaker 6: These are prideful men and they come out every day
Speaker 6: feeling like I'm gonna be better today than I was
Speaker 6: yesterday and better tomorrow. Than I was today, and they're
Speaker 6: always looking to improve. And the sky in the eye
Speaker 6: never lies. The game is on tape, their performance is
Speaker 6: there these There is no you know, like exhaling in
Speaker 6: this league, not until the season has come to a close.
Speaker 6: So I knew that when he said that. Oh and
Speaker 6: again that Miles Garrett, that defense, those players, and it
Speaker 6: was it was troublesome and they lost a double digit
Speaker 6: lead and they lost the game. So the Packers come
Speaker 6: into this game off of by, you know, and you
Speaker 6: can do the analytics and what teams have done, you know,
Speaker 6: pre by post by whatever. I think it's it'll be
Speaker 6: a lot for any team to handle it alone the Bengals.
Speaker 6: But now the Bengals have got their own juice, they
Speaker 6: got their own spark, and I think gonna feel really
Speaker 6: good about what they bring in. And they're two and three,
Speaker 6: and I think that that will carry a lot of weight.
Speaker 6: So in this league, trying to guess, I don't know
Speaker 6: how these guys and all we do is see betting this,
Speaker 6: betting that red level. I don't know how we know
Speaker 6: everything we can, like you know everything about this game.
Speaker 6: I know, I look at all the numbers. I don't
Speaker 6: know how people can sit there and maybe look at
Speaker 6: a casual or even if they feel they know, can
Speaker 6: figure out what's gonna happen instead of line in these games,
Speaker 6: it's impossible. You never know. You never know in this league,
Speaker 6: and that's what's the beauty of the league. And I truly,
Speaker 6: even as much as you might think the Packers have
Speaker 6: got the answer, you never know, and that's that's the
Speaker 6: beauty of the game.
Speaker 7: Coming up Sunday at lambeau.
Speaker 4: Field, did the Micah Parsons trade change your view of
Speaker 4: the Packers' ability to win a Super Bowl title?
Speaker 6: Well, I think it's stunned the league because he's a
Speaker 6: fifth year player at the very height of his powers,
Speaker 6: and its dominant and as forceful a one man guy
Speaker 6: is you're gonna find on any defensive unit in the league.
Speaker 6: Like he changes a game. Offenses now tilt toward ever
Speaker 6: you know wherever he's gonna be with extra blockers, going
Speaker 6: away with the play call and checking it off at
Speaker 6: the line. I think he changes how play to play,
Speaker 6: not just series the series or game the game. Like
Speaker 6: he like wherever he lines up now that that's a
Speaker 6: red flag. And you've got a great guy that can
Speaker 6: decipher that stuff in Flacu, who just played the Packers
Speaker 6: and won a couple of weeks ago for Cleveland, Like so,
Speaker 6: like he knows the recipe right and and so he
Speaker 6: knows this this defense. But I did think that Parsons
Speaker 6: could be like like the missing ingredient. They came in
Speaker 6: Dan to the preseason wanting to strengthen their pass rush,
Speaker 6: weren't necessarily satisfied with how they left camp in what
Speaker 6: they were going to again present and made the move
Speaker 6: after camp. So he and he's had a dynamite influence.
Speaker 6: He's one of the top quarterback pressure guys in the league.
Speaker 6: He changes the plays, he's everything they want. I think
Speaker 6: he's been a great presence in the locker room. The
Speaker 6: coach the other day just went on and Matt Lafleur
Speaker 6: went on and on about the presence and what he's
Speaker 6: brought and the confidency brings the rest of that defense.
Speaker 6: It helps other positions by just being on the field
Speaker 6: and the attention he draws. So but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 6: you make a move like that, it's got to be
Speaker 6: That was an earthquake type move. That was a resounding, hey,
Speaker 6: we are in it to win it, Like our GM
Speaker 6: said earlier before camp began, we're thinking in terms of
Speaker 6: championships and not just getting through the division and sneaking
Speaker 6: into the playoffs. We are looking for the very top,
Speaker 6: and by getting a guy like Parsons, they send the
Speaker 6: signal to the players into the league that that's exactly
Speaker 6: where they're aiming.
Speaker 5: We're visiting with Kevin Harlan.
Speaker 4: For those who don't know, your dad was an executive
Speaker 4: with the Green Bay Packers. You spent part of your
Speaker 4: childhood in Green Bay. What are some of your fondest
Speaker 4: memories about being around lambeau Field as a kid.
Speaker 6: I've got one right off the bet that I've told
Speaker 6: a couple of times already this week. When I was
Speaker 6: a ball boy for the Packers in the early seventies
Speaker 6: and we'd have our lunch break during training camp, I
Speaker 6: would sneak up the stairs into the press box at
Speaker 6: lambeau Field, the old lambeau Field, and go in the
Speaker 6: break the broadcast booth of the radio network. It didn't
Speaker 6: matter which close the door, and do imaginary games in
Speaker 6: my head when I was like eleven and twelve years old,
Speaker 6: and then when I got to actually broadcast when I
Speaker 6: was thirteen, fourteen years old at our high school radio station.
Speaker 6: Would go in there even more and practice these imaginary
Speaker 6: games in lambeau Field in a broadcast booth onto an
Speaker 6: empty field and a and not a soul could be
Speaker 6: seen in the bowl of lambeau Field. And that's where
Speaker 6: I would do these imaginary games out loud where no
Speaker 6: one could hear me. And I did that for many years.
Speaker 6: We'd go up there. I'm sure that head there been
Speaker 6: a cleaning person up there, someone that was getting something
Speaker 6: in the press box would maybe listing what's going on
Speaker 6: on there, like who, And it never happened. I was
Speaker 6: never caught, but it would always sneak in and get
Speaker 6: in and shut the door and do these games for
Speaker 6: like a half hour and just and here I was
Speaker 6: eleven twelve years old broadcasting in lambeau Field. And then,
Speaker 6: as luck would have it, and as the great fortune
Speaker 6: that has been bestowed upon my career would lead me
Speaker 6: to do games, and lambeau eventually do their preseason games
Speaker 6: as I've done since two thousand and three, done multiple
Speaker 6: championship games there, Monday night football games, and a lot
Speaker 6: of Fox and CBS games there. So I'm living out
Speaker 6: a dream every time I'm in that stadium doing a game,
Speaker 6: and now I've got my family in the seats right
Speaker 6: below me. W're season ticket holders. And my dad was
Speaker 6: there for thirty seven years and he was the one
Speaker 6: who hired Holmgren, hired Ron Wolf, was in the room
Speaker 6: when they made the trade to get Farve, made the deal,
Speaker 6: signed Reggie White, drafted Rogers, hired Mike McCarthy. So he
Speaker 6: was there dan hiring two Hall of Fame Super Bowl
Speaker 6: winning gms, two Super Bowl winning coaches, and two Hall
Speaker 6: of Fame quarterbacks. He was in that room when those
Speaker 6: decisions were made, and as president and CEO, the buck
Speaker 6: always stopped with him. So you could have a clever
Speaker 6: GM or coach or whatever personnel guy say hey, we
Speaker 6: should do this, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: he had to approve it, and he did. And so
Speaker 6: we're most and he's still alive. He's eighty nine, My
Speaker 6: mom is eighty seven. They live in Green Bay, is
Speaker 6: a five minute drive from lambeau Field, so they're they're
Speaker 6: very much with it. By the grace of God, their
Speaker 6: health is good enough. They still get it, and they
Speaker 6: watch games and they enjoy it. Like a lot of
Speaker 6: fans do.
Speaker 4: One of the things I admire about you is that
Speaker 4: you don't rest on your laurels. Are you on a
Speaker 4: never ending quest to improve as a sports broadcast?
Speaker 6: Well, like you, we have a same I think spirit
Speaker 6: in this business. Dan, As your accolades would say that
Speaker 6: if you do rest and exhale, there are younger broadcasters
Speaker 6: that are just salivating to be in our seats. Right
Speaker 6: is the voice of a team. You're a voice of
Speaker 6: a major college and an NFL team. There are not
Speaker 6: many of those guys in the business. You're one of
Speaker 6: them and have done it so well for so many years.
Speaker 6: And so I never take this job lightly. And I
Speaker 6: think it goes back because it's not that we're scared
Speaker 6: or we're frightened about what might be. It's that we
Speaker 6: enjoy the process of getting better. So, like you, I
Speaker 6: listen to my games, I critique my work. I feel like,
Speaker 6: you know, I could do that better, I can improve
Speaker 6: in this area or whatever. And I like that challenge.
Speaker 6: It keeps your mind going and evolving in the right direction.
Speaker 6: There'll be a day when I'm sure, speaking for myself,
Speaker 6: that I say, you know, I don't know that I've
Speaker 6: got the love of the business that I once had
Speaker 6: to want to get better. Let me, let me just
Speaker 6: get in there and just do the game and then
Speaker 6: move on to the next. I really don't look at
Speaker 6: it like that. I think I'm a part paranoid, part scared.
Speaker 6: I feel like I'm young enough that I've still got
Speaker 6: a lot of good years ahead of me. But I
Speaker 6: want to make sure that I don't when that day
Speaker 6: comes that I do leave that I'm not I'm not
Speaker 6: regretting not putting in the work necessary to be up
Speaker 6: to date. Let me tell you, I don't know what
Speaker 6: you think, but I'm watching when we do these games,
Speaker 6: like the offenses have never moved faster, There's never been
Speaker 6: more no huddle, there's never been more sub packages coming
Speaker 6: in and staying on top of that in a game
Speaker 6: from way up into the press. That's a hard thing
Speaker 6: to do. It's hard, and I do it on radio
Speaker 6: and on TV. Both they're different ways of looking at it,
Speaker 6: but the same thing is, Man, you've got to pay
Speaker 6: attention and you've got to make sure that you go
Speaker 6: into these games prepared.
Speaker 7: So I'm scared.
Speaker 6: I read I read a quote by Scully one time,
Speaker 6: the great legendary Dodger broadcaster who said, fear drives me
Speaker 6: a lot. I never want to let my listeners down.
Speaker 6: I never want to let myself down by not being
Speaker 6: fully prepared, but into the game and staying ahead of
Speaker 6: the posse, in other words, making sure that they find
Speaker 6: no reason to really attack my work. And that's what
Speaker 6: kept him going. And I read that as a young broadcaster.
Speaker 6: I said, that's a good model to live by, and
Speaker 6: so I kind.
Speaker 4: Of have that totally rings true. Leave it to Vin
Speaker 4: Scully to nail it. Final question for Kevin Harlan. I'm
Speaker 4: sure you've heard this one before, but I've never heard
Speaker 4: your answer. If you could call a sporting event that
Speaker 4: you've never had the opportunity to do and probably won't
Speaker 4: have the opportunity to do, what would it be.
Speaker 6: Well, I've had the chance a couple times to do
Speaker 6: Major League Baseball. When I was in my twenties and
Speaker 6: doing the University of Missouri and the Chiefs on radio
Speaker 6: Saturday Sunday back to back like you do with the
Speaker 6: Bearcats and the Bengals. There was an opportunity in my twenties,
Speaker 6: newly married with our first child, to do Cardinal Baseball
Speaker 6: with Jack Buck and Mike Shannon on KMOX and drove
Speaker 6: in there and did a practice game, and they heard
Speaker 6: the tape and they liked it, and it was there,
Speaker 6: and I chose not to My dad, before he became
Speaker 6: the president of the Packers, was with the Saint Louis
Speaker 6: Baseball Cardinals and was the pr director back in the sixties.
Speaker 6: And he got out of baseball because it wasn't he
Speaker 6: thought he loved the job. It was a great job,
Speaker 6: but not for a family man. It's a hard job
Speaker 6: if you're a family man and are away from your
Speaker 6: family that one hundred and sixty two games and away
Speaker 6: from your family and all that, and every day, and
Speaker 6: during the great summer months where you know, vacations are
Speaker 6: gone now and so all that. So when he got out,
Speaker 6: you know that I remember the decision process he made,
Speaker 6: and my wife and I made the decision not to
Speaker 6: do baseball, And then had a chance with the Red
Speaker 6: Sox not too long ago to be involved in their
Speaker 6: broadcasts and chose not to do that. But to answer
Speaker 6: to the question if I could on radio doing play
Speaker 6: by play, the great broadcasters in our business have some
Speaker 6: kind of a baseball background. And when I talk to
Speaker 6: young broadcasters, they say, do a lot of radio baseball
Speaker 6: because it will help you develop voice and pacing and
Speaker 6: reporting and all these things that we need to be
Speaker 6: whether you do basketball or football. If you can do baseball,
Speaker 6: I think you can do the other sports.
Speaker 1: And I do.
Speaker 6: And it's great for delivery development and voice development and
Speaker 6: cadence and all those things. But doing a game on
Speaker 6: radio baseball on radio some random Wednesday night, maybe in July,
Speaker 6: and describing as the shadows are growing, as the sun
Speaker 6: is setting, and describe because you've got time between pitches
Speaker 6: to describe what's going on. In football, man, you got
Speaker 6: doing doing doing doom and in basketball, so like you're
Speaker 6: constantly just trying to keep up with the action. But
Speaker 6: the one thing on radio that makes it so great
Speaker 6: is when you can paint the total picture and you
Speaker 6: can hear the popcorn guy in the stands that reaches
Speaker 6: that microphone or or or you can see a movement
Speaker 6: of a shortstop a little bit more to the left,
Speaker 6: a bit more to the right. And I remember reading
Speaker 6: one thing about Red Barber and how he when he
Speaker 6: was broadcasting the Brooklyn Dodgers, which was describing a rainstorm
Speaker 6: that he could see building over left Field, over Brooklyn,
Speaker 6: and how it was moving slowly toward Ebbett's Field, and
Speaker 6: how then that there were rain drops, and how and
Speaker 6: how the rain drops on the on the bill of
Speaker 6: the cap of pee Wee Reese, he could see the
Speaker 6: drops and he could see the wind picking up in
Speaker 6: the dust blowing off the mound. And I thought, Man,
Speaker 6: I like, those those are moments that just there. If
Speaker 6: you saw it, it wouldn't resonate, but when you hear it
Speaker 6: in the theater of your mind, it just builds this
Speaker 6: great picture. And I thought, that's what I wanted to do,
Speaker 6: and that's where I got my love of radio, which
Speaker 6: I do every Monday night. I and there's not a
Speaker 6: lot of time to describe that kind of stuff, but
Speaker 6: when there is, and when you can describe it, I
Speaker 6: think those calls, your call of a Joe Burrow touchdown,
Speaker 6: those calls if you listen to him driving by yourself
Speaker 6: an I seventy five or wherever you may be, like
Speaker 6: they stick in your head, like you can almost picture
Speaker 6: it more here than you could if you saw it
Speaker 6: with your own two eyes. So I love the challenge
Speaker 6: that radio brings, and that that's where my love of
Speaker 6: doing radio baseball, I think would be and long answer
Speaker 6: to your question, and I'm sorry, but that's I love
Speaker 6: those I love those challenges of creating the people's minds,
Speaker 6: that that vision where they can see at the theater
Speaker 6: of their mind, what happened, what kind of catch, what
Speaker 6: kind of ground ball was grabbed, you know, what kind
Speaker 6: of jump shot was taken?
Speaker 7: Where it was on the floor.
Speaker 6: Those things, to me, that's why get into broadcasting, the
Speaker 6: challenge of doing that the right way.
Speaker 3: You are listening to the Bengals pep Rally Show presented
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Speaker 3: to come. On today's show, and we're here until six
Speaker 3: o'clock tonight. You will hear from quarterback Joe Flacco, he
Speaker 3: met with the Cincinnati media for the first time earlier today.
Speaker 3: We'll also hear from off into line Marius Mims on
Speaker 3: the difficult challenge of trying to block Micah Parsons. Right now,
Speaker 3: it's time for this week's Fun Fact segment, presented Skyline.
Speaker 4: Chilly time for some fun facts with rookie linebacker Barrett
Speaker 4: Carter born in Chicago but raised in Swanee, Georgia, near Atlanta. Barrett,
Speaker 4: I read an interview where you said, all I want
Speaker 4: to do in life is make my parents proud.
Speaker 9: Tell us a little bit.
Speaker 4: About them, what they did or do for a living,
Speaker 4: and what you admire and respect so much about your folks.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So my mom, she's an interior designer. Slash do it
Speaker 10: all mom, slash everything Mom, she really does it all.
Speaker 10: But she's an interior designer, helps, you know, design people's houses,
Speaker 10: and you know, people will just hire her and you know,
Speaker 10: give her money and tell her, you know, just make
Speaker 10: my house beautiful.
Speaker 9: And that's what she does.
Speaker 10: Then my dad, he's a financial advisor, a wealth manager.
Speaker 10: So he's really my personal financial adviser. So it's good
Speaker 10: to keep that in house. But what I really love
Speaker 10: and admire most about them is just how supportive they are.
Speaker 10: Like with my sister and I, they really just let
Speaker 10: us figure our own lives out. Like they didn't force
Speaker 10: us to do anything. They just said, if y'all want
Speaker 10: to go run through a brick wall, then we're gonna
Speaker 10: support you, like wholeheartedly, with no no doubts, and just
Speaker 10: they just let us figure out our own lives out.
Speaker 10: That's just what I love and admire so much about them,
Speaker 10: and I hope that I can be half as good
Speaker 10: as parents as they were to my sister and I.
Speaker 10: So they're the best older or younger sister older, she's
Speaker 10: six years older. How old am I twin two? Yeah,
Speaker 10: she's six years old. I have to do that math
Speaker 10: every time, but yeah, she's six years older.
Speaker 4: I do the same with my older sisters. When did
Speaker 4: it become clear that you stood out among your peers
Speaker 4: in sports?
Speaker 11: Hm hmm.
Speaker 9: I would say my eighth grade year in football.
Speaker 10: Like I played football just always because it was so fun,
Speaker 10: and I was also like the biggest one on the field,
Speaker 10: so I was just I guess I was naturally I
Speaker 10: don't want to say the best, but I was pretty good.
Speaker 10: But then my eighth grade year, I was just I
Speaker 10: was pretty dominant and that after that year, it just
Speaker 10: really showed me that I can maybe do something with this.
Speaker 10: And fast forward to my freshman year, I got my
Speaker 10: first scholarship offer and I was like, wow, like this
Speaker 10: is really like what I've been working towards every single day,
Speaker 10: and I was like really becoming a reality and that
Speaker 10: really just made me work even harder just to not
Speaker 10: just or to just keep stacking offers and just keep
Speaker 10: getting more attention from colleges. So I would say, in
Speaker 10: my eighth grade and then going to my.
Speaker 4: Freshman year, I know you played offense early in high
Speaker 4: school and then got switched to linebacker, and reportedly you
Speaker 4: were devastated by the change. Have you grown to love linebacker?
Speaker 10: I have, and it was I literally wanted to quit football.
Speaker 10: But the next day when I got I switched, I
Speaker 10: was running back receiver. I switched the linebacker, and I
Speaker 10: was almost quit football. Then the next day I got
Speaker 10: my first scholarship offer. So I mean, the Lord works
Speaker 10: in mysterious ways. But I've grown to love this side
Speaker 10: of the ball so much, and I love how.
Speaker 9: How hard it is.
Speaker 10: Like you know, I'm not saying playing offense is easy,
Speaker 10: but you know, when you ain't playing defense, you have
Speaker 10: to react to whatever the offense is doing and you
Speaker 10: don't know what they're running, and all you can do
Speaker 10: is go off of your preparation, your studying and your
Speaker 10: film and just you know, just your God given ability.
Speaker 10: But I love that defense, that challenge and how precise
Speaker 10: you have to be and how on point you have
Speaker 10: to be with your keys, and I embrace that challenge.
Speaker 10: So I wouldn't I wouldn't change my path and I
Speaker 10: wouldn't want to have it any other way.
Speaker 9: So I love the side.
Speaker 4: Of the ball playing linebacker. You attended North Quinn at
Speaker 4: high school. That's the alma mater of a Bengals fan
Speaker 4: favorite tight end, CJ Uzama. Did you hear about CJ?
Speaker 4: From coaches and teachers and have you ever.
Speaker 9: Met I don't.
Speaker 10: We've met before because he came in and spoke to us,
Speaker 10: but like surprisingly, we actually lived in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 10: We lived in the same neighborhood back in Georgia, but
Speaker 10: just growing up in Swanee, you always heard that name,
Speaker 10: and you know, you always wanted to strive to be
Speaker 10: like those older guys.
Speaker 9: Who paved the way.
Speaker 10: And I just have so much respect for him is
Speaker 10: what he did in the league and how he always
Speaker 10: came back to his community and just gave his time,
Speaker 10: his knowledge, and his wisdom back. And you know, I
Speaker 10: hope that I can be something like that and more
Speaker 10: just keep giving back what was instilled into me. So
Speaker 10: CJ will always be a legend in my eyes, a
Speaker 10: big brother and you know, a great a great man
Speaker 10: to look up to.
Speaker 4: You were one of the top linebackers in the country
Speaker 4: your senior year of high school. You could have gone anywhere.
Speaker 4: Where did you visit? Who I visited?
Speaker 10: Clemson obviously, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, and Ohio State.
Speaker 9: So those were like.
Speaker 10: My final final five, and I ultimately chose Clemson just
Speaker 10: because it was the right fit for me. You know,
Speaker 10: I was looking for a place where I can you know,
Speaker 10: grow in all areas of life and you know, not
Speaker 10: just talking about football, but all areas. And you know,
Speaker 10: I can truly say I walked into Clemson aboard and
Speaker 10: I came out of man.
Speaker 9: And that's all that I was looking for. And you know,
Speaker 9: the football stuff is going to handle itself.
Speaker 10: But so what I did, what I was able to
Speaker 10: compensatere was is a blessing and I wouldn't trade those
Speaker 10: four years for the world. But yeah, those are those
Speaker 10: are my finalists. And the place that I was visited.
Speaker 4: It certainly worked out well. You were in some great
Speaker 4: teams at Clemson. Your team made it to the College
Speaker 4: Football Playoff last year. What was the best part of
Speaker 4: your overall college experience.
Speaker 10: I'll say, I'll give one on the field and won
Speaker 10: off the field. I'll say this is going to be surprising.
Speaker 10: My junior year, at worst, we were four and four,
Speaker 10: Like at one point, we were four and four throughout
Speaker 10: the year. And if you know anything about Clemson, anything
Speaker 10: about their fans, they're very passionate about that team, and
Speaker 10: being four and four in Clemson is not not a
Speaker 10: sweet place to be. And so I would say finishing
Speaker 10: off that year and winning the Gator Bowl in the
Speaker 10: way that we won it, like it was just special.
Speaker 12: And I cried after that game.
Speaker 10: I cried after we won the Gator Bowl and it
Speaker 10: was just such a special win for you know, we
Speaker 10: were four and four and we rallied and we finished
Speaker 10: off the season nine and four, and it was just
Speaker 10: carry so much momentum to the next year. So that's
Speaker 10: on the field, and then off the field, I'll say
Speaker 10: graduating just because after my junior year, I was unsure
Speaker 10: if I was gonna leave or go or come back,
Speaker 10: and it was a really tough decision weighing on my heart,
Speaker 10: and I decided to come back and I finished, and
Speaker 10: I set out that was my goal to graduate be
Speaker 10: all American, be a team captain.
Speaker 9: And that's what I did.
Speaker 10: And so I came back and I graduated, and that
Speaker 10: was such a big accomplishment for me.
Speaker 4: Since twenty twenty, college football players have been allowed to
Speaker 4: wear the number zero. You were the first player to
Speaker 4: do it at Clemson.
Speaker 13: Was that a big deal to you?
Speaker 10: Honestly, I didn't realize it was a big deal until,
Speaker 10: like I got to Clemson, because I committed to Clemson
Speaker 10: and I texted coach Shwiny, like what single digit numbers
Speaker 10: do y'all have available? Because I were number one in
Speaker 10: high school, so it was just what I was used
Speaker 10: to and now he said zero's only thing. I was like,
Speaker 10: all right, let's do it. And then I get to
Speaker 10: Clemson and like they had there, like you said, there
Speaker 10: was no zeros before, and then I was the first
Speaker 10: one and all like that's like all forever being history
Speaker 10: just because.
Speaker 9: I'm the first number zero. So it was special.
Speaker 10: And I hope that you know that's just a legacy
Speaker 10: at Clemson, just for decent players to wear that number
Speaker 10: and just keep carrying on that tradition. So I hope
Speaker 10: that you know that's that's that's gonna become a thing
Speaker 10: at Clemson.
Speaker 4: We're chatting with Barrett Carter. You were a fourth round
Speaker 4: picking this year's draft. Describe the moments leading up to
Speaker 4: the pick and then the feeling you got when the
Speaker 4: phone rang.
Speaker 10: The most stressful, nerve wracking time of my whole life,
Speaker 10: because the whole process is so like you don't know anything.
Speaker 10: Like you can you can get all these predictions, you
Speaker 10: can talk to your agents and acts like what are
Speaker 10: they saying whatever, But until you get the phone call,
Speaker 10: you don't know what's going on in that draft room.
Speaker 10: So I mean, i'd be lying to you if I
Speaker 10: told you all if I thought I was gonna go
Speaker 10: fourth out. I thought I was gonna go earlier. But
Speaker 10: you know, the lower makes no mistakes. And you know,
Speaker 10: when I got that phone call, it was the best
Speaker 10: thing in the world. Just all the weight on my
Speaker 10: shoulders were just completely lifted, and I was like I
Speaker 10: was immediately just like, let's get to work. Like I
Speaker 10: cried so much much Friday night because I didn't get
Speaker 10: my name called, and I was pissed off and I
Speaker 10: was just so much, so many different emotions. But when
Speaker 10: I saw I think it was a five one three
Speaker 10: area code's Yeah. So I saw the five one three
Speaker 10: and I saw Cincinnati. I was like, let's do it, Like,
Speaker 10: let's get to work, and I was just ready from
Speaker 10: that moment on and I'm just ready to just leave
Speaker 10: my leave my marketing in Cincinnati.
Speaker 9: All right, a few.
Speaker 4: Wild card topics to wrap things up. It looks like
Speaker 4: you did a ton of community service when you were
Speaker 4: at Clemson, particularly with schools.
Speaker 10: Why I remember, I was, you know, that little kid
Speaker 10: and seeing the older athletes come in and read to
Speaker 10: us and spend time with us, and I just thought.
Speaker 9: That was the coolest thing because I was, I was,
Speaker 9: I just admired that.
Speaker 10: I admire that, you know, they took the time out
Speaker 10: of their day when they could have.
Speaker 9: Been doing anything else and they came to spend time
Speaker 9: with us.
Speaker 10: And I made a promise to myself, like when I
Speaker 10: get to that, when I get to that age, I'm
Speaker 10: gonna get back and I'm gonna I'm gonna be that
Speaker 10: figure that those kids look up to and those kids love,
Speaker 10: and you know, whatever it may be, but it's just
Speaker 10: a it's a promise that I made to myself, just
Speaker 10: I'm gonna give back my time. I'm gonna get back
Speaker 10: to nowe I was instilled into me and I'm gonna
Speaker 10: I'm gonna do that for.
Speaker 9: Us rest of my life.
Speaker 4: If you could swap jerseys with any player in NFL history,
Speaker 4: who are you swapping jerseys with?
Speaker 9: Probably ray Lewis.
Speaker 10: Just he's someone that I grew up just admiring and watching,
Speaker 10: especially when I switched the linebacker, Like a big thing
Speaker 10: for me was the mindset and like the mentality that
Speaker 10: you have to have to play that position.
Speaker 9: He's just epitome of that.
Speaker 10: Like he's he doesn't matter who you are, He's gonna
Speaker 10: go after you and try to try to hunt you.
Speaker 9: So I would say ray Lewis.
Speaker 10: And I actually talked to him last last year in
Speaker 10: the summer. Coach Sweeney put me on the phone with him,
Speaker 10: and it was I was just so starstruck. I didn't
Speaker 10: know what to say. But he's someone that I grew
Speaker 10: up Washington and grew up admiring. So I would say
Speaker 10: ray Lewis.
Speaker 9: All right.
Speaker 4: Final fun fact for Barrett Carter. This one's kind of deep.
Speaker 4: If you could meet anyone in history, living or deceased,
Speaker 4: who would that person be?
Speaker 10: I would say, I have two, so I have to
Speaker 10: give an athlete and a non athlete, I'll say Lebron
Speaker 10: James because that's just that's my that's my guy. I
Speaker 10: grew up watched, Yeah, Lebron for sure. Lebron James and
Speaker 10: Denzel Washington. He's my favorite actor. I just watched both
Speaker 10: or all three Equalizer movies and that just made me
Speaker 10: love him even more so. Lebron James and Denzel Washington.
Speaker 10: Denzel is so good, so good, so good, the best.
Speaker 13: Not that Lebron isn't. But I'm really with you and Denzel.
Speaker 9: You can't go on with either, so I'll say those two.
Speaker 13: This has been great. Really appreciate your time. Best of
Speaker 13: luck the rest of the year.
Speaker 9: Yes, say thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: You are listening to the Bengals Pepper Ally Show live
Speaker 3: from the on the Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Dave Lapham and I are here until six o'clock tonight.
Speaker 3: We're obviously having some minor technical problems. We'll have that
Speaker 3: ironed out shortly. In any case, if you'd like to
Speaker 3: come out and meet Orrin Burks, the Bengals linebacker, will
Speaker 3: be our special guest. Between five and six, we are
Speaker 3: headed to Lambeau Field on Sunday. It'll be the first
Speaker 3: time the Bengals have played there in eight years. The
Speaker 3: last time they faced the Packers in Green Bay, it
Speaker 3: was a great game, but the Packers won it in
Speaker 3: overtime thanks to the heroics of their then quarterback Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Jerry Montgomery was on the coaching staff back then for
Speaker 3: Green Bay. He's a Bengals coach now and I'll talk
Speaker 3: to him next. This is the Bengals pep Rallley Show
Speaker 3: presented by Just Fair Chicken on ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks
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Speaker 3: by Just Their Chick In We are at our Friday
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Speaker 3: above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut. We're here
Speaker 3: until six o'clock tonight. We will be joined in the
Speaker 3: final hour of the show by Bengals linebacker and SPED
Speaker 3: team's eighth Orrin Burks. We've got the Bengals and Green
Speaker 3: Bay Packers coming up on Sunday in Green Bay, beginning
Speaker 3: at four to twenty five. It's a relatively rare meeting
Speaker 3: between these two teams they've only played fourteen times over
Speaker 3: the years. Since Annattie has won seven, the Packers have
Speaker 3: won seven. The Bengals actually have three wins in Wisconsin,
Speaker 3: but only one of those wins was at Lambeau Field.
Speaker 3: The bengals other two victories on the road against green
Speaker 3: Bay were in Milwaukee. The Packers used to play a
Speaker 3: few of their home games every year in Milwaukee. The
Speaker 3: Bengals have a coach who knows all about green Bay,
Speaker 3: and I spoke to him, defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery
Speaker 3: earlier this week.
Speaker 4: Jerry, you are a Packers assistant coach for nine years.
Speaker 4: Now you are going back to Lambeau It can't be
Speaker 4: just another game for you.
Speaker 13: Is there anything in particular you're looking forward to?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 14: Being there for nine years I have When I say friends,
Speaker 14: they're like family, meaning there's still guys there that I
Speaker 14: work with, but more importantly, our kids grew up there.
Speaker 14: So we have a cabin in Eagle River, Wisconsin. We
Speaker 14: will always call that home now regardless of where we
Speaker 14: live at. So it'll be great to see all of
Speaker 14: my neighbors and friends. And then you know what's cool
Speaker 14: is my son is getting his first collegiate start at
Speaker 14: linebacker against the Badger Saturday night. So I'm gonna try
Speaker 14: to sneak out and get to that game. So he played,
Speaker 14: you know, they went to the state championship and he
Speaker 14: played in Madison. Now he's getting his first start in
Speaker 14: Madison against Madison. So yeah, so we'll have a lot
Speaker 14: of friends all week in to see. I've only been
Speaker 14: to Lambeau once. That's when the Bengals played there eight
Speaker 14: years ago. It's a bucket list type experience for me.
Speaker 14: When you work there every day, do you feel the
Speaker 14: history and do you feel like it's a big advantage.
Speaker 14: You definitely feel the history. It's an unbelievable place to
Speaker 14: work and unbelievable place to play a football game. You
Speaker 14: walk through the tunnels and you feel it. It's neat
Speaker 14: even practicing there. There's an air about it. So and
Speaker 14: what's cool is when you pull in and you see
Speaker 14: now it's a little different now because people have tore
Speaker 14: down those homes and built massive places across the street.
Speaker 14: They're big tailgate places. But it's just it's a really
Speaker 14: neat environment. It's probably as close to college environment as
Speaker 14: you'll feel in most places. But yeah, neat venue, a
Speaker 14: lot of history and cool place.
Speaker 4: Green Bay is the smallest market in the US that
Speaker 4: has a professional sports team. It's a city of about
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand people. As a Packers player or coach,
Speaker 4: do you feel like you're in a fish bowl a
Speaker 4: little bit just because there's such a spotlight on the Packers?
Speaker 14: I would say, you know, maybe for a player. As
Speaker 14: a coach, I'd say no. I think people are very welcome,
Speaker 14: the welcoming, and they treat you as one and especially
Speaker 14: if you're a normal person, if you you know, there's
Speaker 14: not too many people that walk around meaning you know,
Speaker 14: and think that they're better than you. So when you
Speaker 14: act like that, that's when you stand alone. But for
Speaker 14: a player, I could see people knowing who you are.
Speaker 14: But I think those guys, you know, it's Milwaukee's two
Speaker 14: hours away, Chicago's three hours away, So.
Speaker 4: We're visiting the Bengals defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery. Let's
Speaker 4: talk defense. Seems a little odd to say, maybe after
Speaker 4: the opponents scored thirty seven points, But I thought the
Speaker 4: defense played pretty well last week against the NFL's number
Speaker 4: one offense. You forced five punts. Nobody's forced more against Detroit.
Speaker 4: You got to take away in the game, what was
Speaker 4: good last Sunday, what wasn't up to your standard.
Speaker 14: We're taking the right steps each and every week. You know,
Speaker 14: they were average and I don't know if it was
Speaker 14: like four point nine or five something or carry. And
Speaker 14: if we don't give up the one big run, we
Speaker 14: keep them below two, below three, we give up the
Speaker 14: one big one.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 14: So like we're building a mindset and a culture from
Speaker 14: a run game a standpoint, and you know, you got
Speaker 14: to earn.
Speaker 9: The right to pass rush.
Speaker 14: And so I think those guys, we're doing that and
Speaker 14: we're getting in them some longer down in distance, more
Speaker 14: than they've probably had all year.
Speaker 9: But you know, so it starts there.
Speaker 14: So you're just building a culture and identity and you know,
Speaker 14: guys are playing hard. No one's quitting. You know, we
Speaker 14: got to eliminate the mistakes that are happening. And it's football.
Speaker 14: Things are gonna happen. It's just like, you know, you
Speaker 14: can't let them compound. But we're heading in the right direction.
Speaker 14: We're nowhere near where we're going to be, but you know,
Speaker 14: hopefully people are seeing the change and the guys are
Speaker 14: working extremely hard.
Speaker 4: One negative has been opening drives opponents have scored touchdowns
Speaker 4: in for the first five games. Has there been a
Speaker 4: common denominator? Is there something that stands out on those
Speaker 4: opening drives?
Speaker 9: We talk about that every day.
Speaker 14: I don't know if it was Cleveland and then Minnesota,
Speaker 14: but you know, you got penalties that extend drives. One
Speaker 14: of those drives, there was three or four third down penalties. Uh,
Speaker 14: some you know are questionable, but like, if you know,
Speaker 14: we can eliminate some of those things. We're off the field,
Speaker 14: you know, but uh, once the guy's settled down, it's
Speaker 14: it's been you know, pretty good and then then there's
Speaker 14: a hiccup. Right, But you know, I think if we
Speaker 14: can eliminate the mistakes h and play fast and then
Speaker 14: tackle and open field, uh, I think we're gonna you know,
Speaker 14: be better and improve each week.
Speaker 4: Let's discuss some individuals. Trey Hendrickson had two sacks last week.
Speaker 4: He's got four in the first five games. It's your
Speaker 4: first year coaching him. What stands out?
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's it's important to him, you know, he he
Speaker 14: wants to learn about, you know, the offensive line and
Speaker 14: what they're doing. You know, he's he's invested in in
Speaker 14: playing the run, and you know, he knows, like, you
Speaker 14: can't get to third down if you can't stop the run.
Speaker 14: And so I think he's really putting an emphasis on
Speaker 14: those details. But like, you know, it's important to him.
Speaker 14: You talk about a guy that comes in, he takes
Speaker 14: care of his body, he watches film, he studies his opponent,
Speaker 14: so he knows, you know, what should work, how the
Speaker 14: guy's gonna set.
Speaker 9: Him, you know. So it's it's it's neat to be around, you.
Speaker 16: Know, a pro.
Speaker 4: Josephosai and Miles Murphy each had a sack last week.
Speaker 4: What are you working on with them at this stage
Speaker 4: of their development?
Speaker 14: Consistency, whether it's in the run game. They both had opportunities,
Speaker 14: you know. You know one of the sacks that Miles got,
Speaker 14: you know, Joe created it because he was able to
Speaker 14: penetrate the B gap and then Miles played off of them.
Speaker 14: So it's not just a selfish individual, Hey I'm gonna
Speaker 14: go win. I mean he did a selfish deal by penetrate,
Speaker 14: penetrating the B gap and allow Miles to get a sack. Right, So,
Speaker 14: so all those things are a part of it, but
Speaker 14: just being consistent, whether it's the run game, open field,
Speaker 14: tackling those type of things. Like, I'm very demanding and
Speaker 14: hold those guys to a really high standard. And I
Speaker 14: think sometimes if you feel like the world's falling down
Speaker 14: on them, when in reality it's like, hey, this happened,
Speaker 14: let's clean it up, all right, Uh, you know, but
Speaker 14: don't don't don't you know, let one mistake fall into
Speaker 14: another one because you can't move on, you know. And
Speaker 14: so those are the things that we're trying to work
Speaker 14: to get them past.
Speaker 4: You are demanding and it's fun to watch, and I
Speaker 4: get the sense from everybody that I've talked to that
Speaker 4: they like being pushed. Is that what you're looking for
Speaker 4: from the guys that you have on your D line?
Speaker 14: I want I want guys that it's important to being
Speaker 14: out there. It's important. Learning the process and learning what
Speaker 14: your opponent does is important. If it's not important to
Speaker 14: you for those things, then like you don't love the game.
Speaker 14: Like the best guys I've been around, right, and we're
Speaker 14: going to Green Bay, Kenny Clark was one of the
Speaker 14: best to ever do it. But it wasn't that he
Speaker 14: was like super Ubertalent. He loved football, and like, I
Speaker 14: got a room full of guys that, like you know,
Speaker 14: they love it. They're learning learning more bald than they've
Speaker 14: ever learned. But like, I expect them to play at
Speaker 14: a high level, and I my standard for them is
Speaker 14: super high, but I expect more out of them. It
Speaker 14: can't be how bad do I want it? Because that
Speaker 14: doesn't mean anything. I don't play the game. If you
Speaker 14: guys don't put in the time and effort, it's not
Speaker 14: gonna show up on the field. And I tell them,
Speaker 14: what you put into it, you get out of it.
Speaker 14: So if you take me as being hard and demanding
Speaker 14: on you is a bad thing, all right, you're never
Speaker 14: gonna grow, all right, and you're never gonna get to
Speaker 14: where you need to get. A lot of guys understand
Speaker 14: I'm trying to help them, not hurt them. It's not
Speaker 14: belittle on them. It's trying to make them better. It's
Speaker 14: trying to get them to see the game through my
Speaker 14: lens or to see the game easier. And the guys
Speaker 14: that are doing that are making huge strauss.
Speaker 4: BJ Hill is the leading tackler among the guys up front.
Speaker 4: What have you enjoyed about coaching BJ?
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, he's smart, same thing. He's another guy
Speaker 14: who's done it. He's been productive right in the past,
Speaker 14: and we're teaching him a little bit different ways.
Speaker 9: Of how to do it.
Speaker 14: But you know, he's adapting and he's doing it, and
Speaker 14: he's playing good ball for us, and we need him
Speaker 14: in there and he's been stout in the run and
Speaker 14: we need him to continue to do that.
Speaker 4: You haven't had Shamar since week two. I thought he
Speaker 4: got better every day at training camp from watching practice.
Speaker 4: What did you think of his camp and the first
Speaker 4: two games that he was able.
Speaker 14: To play, Yeah, like a roller coaster, right, like a
Speaker 14: guy that hadn't been here all off season or all
Speaker 14: training camp, right, and then and then he showed flashes
Speaker 14: of like why he went where he went, and so
Speaker 14: it's it's a work in progress, but like when he
Speaker 14: gets it, when it all clicks for him, the tools
Speaker 14: are there, I see, like a great player in this
Speaker 14: league for a long time.
Speaker 16: Right.
Speaker 9: And so he's going through a process right now through.
Speaker 14: This injury, Like he's how to try to be a
Speaker 14: pro with rehab and all that. So, I mean everything
Speaker 14: he's doing right now is new and it's all a process.
Speaker 4: For so final thing for d line coach Jerry Montgomery.
Speaker 4: The big news this week is obviously the acquisition of
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. You've squared off against him a handful of
Speaker 4: times in the NFL, including Week one this year. What
Speaker 4: do you think Joe Flacco brings to the table.
Speaker 9: The guys played a lot of football.
Speaker 14: I mean, I tell the story I told him when
Speaker 14: I saw him last night, Like we were at Northern
Speaker 14: IOW when he was at Delaware, he beat us to
Speaker 14: go to the National Championship game. We were the undefeated team.
Speaker 14: We had like nine sack opportunities, but we fill down
Speaker 14: his body like six of those, right, so we get
Speaker 14: those nine sacks. It's done. But veteran experience. The guy's
Speaker 14: got He's massive, right, he could see it.
Speaker 16: He could make it.
Speaker 14: All the throws and you know, even the picks that
Speaker 14: happened our game. I mean those were tips into flections
Speaker 14: right like the balls were and I think they've had
Speaker 14: eleven drops there. I mean, he's gonna have some great weapons,
Speaker 14: but he can make the throws. Veteran leadership. The guys
Speaker 14: won the Super Bowl, like, so he's done it, and
Speaker 14: it'd be nice to see what he can do.
Speaker 4: We're going to get our opportunity soon. Cherry, appreciate your
Speaker 4: time enjoying the trip back to Green Bank.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: That is Bengals defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery. We just
Speaker 3: heard him talking about quarterback Joe Flaco, and we will
Speaker 3: hear from the Bengals new older quarterback when we come back,
Speaker 3: Joe Matt with the Cincinnati Media, so the first time
Speaker 3: today we'll hear his comments. In just a moment, you
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Speaker 4: here in downtown Cincinnati. We're getting getting set for the
Speaker 4: Bengals and Green Bay Packers coming up on Sunday at
Speaker 4: four to twenty five. We'll see if the Bengals can
Speaker 4: snap their three game losing streak and get back on
Speaker 4: the winning track with a new guy at quarterback. It's
Speaker 4: only the sixth game of the year, this will be
Speaker 4: the bengals third different starting quarterback. Joe Burrow of course,
Speaker 4: started games one and two. Jake Browning has started games three, four,
Speaker 4: and five. Unfortunately, Jake did not perform nearly as well
Speaker 4: as he did two years ago when Joe Burrow hurt
Speaker 4: his wrists. So the Bengals are trying to stay in
Speaker 4: the hunt and they have made a move picking up
Speaker 4: forty year o old, eighteen year veteran Joe Flacco, a
Speaker 4: former Super Bowl MVP, A guy who has made nearly
Speaker 4: two hundred million dollars in his NFL career, but he
Speaker 4: still loves playing. He still thinks he can play well.
Speaker 4: He was the NFL Comeback Player of the Year just
Speaker 4: two years ago when he led the Cleveland Browns to
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and he will try to do something similar
Speaker 4: for the Bengals, try to keep them in contention until
Speaker 4: hopefully Joe Burrow comes back in December and leads the
Speaker 4: Bengals to glory in the postseason.
Speaker 13: That's what we can hope for in any case.
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco has practiced now three times since joining the
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals, including earlier today after a Friday morning practice,
Speaker 4: he met with the Cincinnati media for the first time.
Speaker 4: Let's hear a few of the more interesting things that
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco had to say.
Speaker 17: Crazy business. You know, you have to be ready for anything.
Speaker 17: That's that's kind of what it was. Definitely didn't have
Speaker 17: this on my list of things that were going to happen.
Speaker 16: That that's this league.
Speaker 17: And and and I'm a player, uh, I think most
Speaker 17: players would say the same thing. I mean, you know,
Speaker 17: I like to play football, and if that's in Cincinnati
Speaker 17: right now, then you know, I'm all for it. I
Speaker 17: think in this kind of environment and in this situation particularly,
Speaker 17: I think honestly I can get in trouble kind of
Speaker 17: think and I know everything. I think the best way
Speaker 17: for me to do is is just keep simple, keep
Speaker 17: it simple.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 17: I think a lot of the times when you're when
Speaker 17: you've played a lot of ball, and when you've been
Speaker 17: around a lot of ball, you know, you can you
Speaker 17: can get to the point where you overcomplicate things and
Speaker 17: you're just you're just making things harder on yourself. Uh So, honestly,
Speaker 17: I think my experience in this in this regard is
Speaker 17: is uh going to help me in the sense that
Speaker 17: I don't have all the answers. Just keep it simple,
Speaker 17: go play football, and you know, and and and and
Speaker 17: I think that's the best way to kind of make
Speaker 17: sure that we play consistently, stay ahead of the chaine,
Speaker 17: and do all those things. The biggest challenge is probably
Speaker 17: still just the Green Bay Packers, you know, and the
Speaker 17: team that they have. They're a confident team that plays
Speaker 17: good football, and you know, I think all the other stuff,
Speaker 17: you know, you can use it as an excuse, but
Speaker 17: we still have to go play a football game on
Speaker 17: Sunday and they're the ones that stand in front of us.
Speaker 16: Lap.
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco has been getting a crash course in the
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals playbook. I don't think Zach Taylor has been
Speaker 4: getting much sleep this week. They try to feed him
Speaker 4: as much information as they possibly can. The good news
Speaker 4: is he just prepped to face the Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 4: so Joe Flacco can concentrate a little bit less on
Speaker 4: that than he normally would and devote most of his
Speaker 4: concentration to try to pick up this offense and be
Speaker 4: able to play at a solid level on Sunday.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think I think he feels like he's
Speaker 12: going to be able to do that. I think he
Speaker 12: feels like he's going to be able to help the Bengals.
Speaker 12: He's been in a legal a while, been with a
Speaker 12: few franchises. They've run multiple offensive philosophies and configurations and
Speaker 12: formations and personnel and motions and change of formations. You know,
Speaker 12: he's been exposed to all of that. I and you
Speaker 12: know he's got all of that to work to pick from,
Speaker 12: to choose from, to work from. I think it's the
Speaker 12: biggest thing that Zach and Dan Pitcher and the rest
Speaker 12: of the coaching staff has to do is to is
Speaker 12: to marry what he feels most comfortable with in the
Speaker 12: Bengals offense and put a game plan together based on that,
Speaker 12: and you know, every every down and distance have an
Speaker 12: answer for it. I like the fact that he said,
Speaker 12: I know I don't have all the answers. Well that,
Speaker 12: you know, some guys have been in the league as
Speaker 12: long as him would think they do have all the answers.
Speaker 12: And he's he seems like a really good guy, a
Speaker 12: guy that his teammates have already gravitated toward. He checks
Speaker 12: his ego at the door. He's not, you know, not
Speaker 12: somebody like here, I am. Hey, it's Joe Flacco, you know,
Speaker 12: bowed down and kiss my feet. You know, It's nothing
Speaker 12: like that. He's just a guy who, like he said,
Speaker 12: loves to play football, and now he has another chance
Speaker 12: to go out and play football with what he thinks
Speaker 12: is a pretty good football team.
Speaker 4: He started the first four games of the year for Cleveland.
Speaker 4: Then the Browns turned to rookie Dylan Gabriel. Obviously, Cleveland
Speaker 4: is in rebuilding mode. They want to see what they
Speaker 4: have with the two quarterbacks that they drafted. I don't
Speaker 4: know that we'll see Shador Sanders anytime soon, but they
Speaker 4: certainly want to check out Dylan Gabriel first. Flacco didn't
Speaker 4: play particularly well for the Browns. He acknowledged that earlier today.
Speaker 4: There are circumstances there. You don't have a lot of
Speaker 4: a wide receiver talent in Cleveland. Their offensive line has
Speaker 4: been battered and bruised. They didn't play particularly well in
Speaker 4: front of him. I will say this, We saw him
Speaker 4: on opening Day and he played great against the Bengals.
Speaker 4: He threw for two hundred and ninety yards. If not
Speaker 4: for several drops, including two that became interceptions, the Bengals
Speaker 4: probably don't win that game.
Speaker 12: I agree, And I think the coaches looked at that
Speaker 12: tape and said, hey, he's still got a lot of
Speaker 12: gas left in the tank. I mean, this guy can
Speaker 12: still play. He can still throw it with the best
Speaker 12: of them. And that's the thing. He's always had a
Speaker 12: Howartzer hanging off his right shoulder. You know, the dude
Speaker 12: has a canon. There's no no question about it. And
Speaker 12: it's not like you know all over the place. He's controlled.
Speaker 12: When he throws that football down the football field. He
Speaker 12: can put it in very tight spots. He can hit
Speaker 12: you in the right shoulder, he can hit you in
Speaker 12: the left ep. He can put the ball wherever he
Speaker 12: needs to put it, and it's got ourpms on it,
Speaker 12: it's got velocity on it comes out of his hand
Speaker 12: very very easily. And the good thing is about him
Speaker 12: And this is what I think you know, got Jake
Speaker 12: in a little bit of trouble. He gets it out
Speaker 12: of his hand quickly.
Speaker 16: Yep.
Speaker 12: I mean he makes reads and right now the ball
Speaker 12: is out and if you're a receiver, you better get
Speaker 12: your head around because that ball could become And so
Speaker 12: I think that's going to be an interesting part of
Speaker 12: practice for the for Joe Flack and his wide receivers
Speaker 12: is make sure that they know that all of them
Speaker 12: didn't play every single snap and the ball could be coming.
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Speaker 4: come back. Why we owe punter Ryan Rico an apology.
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Speaker 4: or and Burks at five o'clock. In last week's game
Speaker 4: against the Lions, Detroit tackled quarterback Jake Browning in the
Speaker 4: end zone for a safety with about two minutes to go,
Speaker 4: and something very confusing happened after that, so confusing that
Speaker 4: we owe punter Ryan Rico an apology.
Speaker 13: Here's what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's a free kick now for Cincinnati, and they
Speaker 4: elect to have the punter do it.
Speaker 13: Ryan Rico. No long snap, he just has the ball
Speaker 13: in his right hand.
Speaker 4: He'll step into it and punt it before reaching the
Speaker 4: twenty yard line.
Speaker 13: Here comes his punt. Oh, oh, my.
Speaker 4: Bad punt, straight up in the air like he was
Speaker 4: punting in a silo on It's fair.
Speaker 13: Caught at the forty.
Speaker 4: Six a twenty six yard high fly ball by Ryan Rico.
Speaker 13: One forty nine to go and the Lions will have
Speaker 13: it at the Cincinnati forty six. The law was fought
Speaker 13: outside the setup zone.
Speaker 1: By rule, that's an unsportsman life conduct penalty on the
Speaker 1: kicking team.
Speaker 12: It'll be the receiving team's ball half the distance from
Speaker 12: the spot of a kick at the ten yard line
Speaker 12: first down.
Speaker 4: Wow, man, that's the most severe penalty I've ever heard.
Speaker 12: God, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 13: So, what the heck just happened?
Speaker 4: I watched the TV coverage of the game after I
Speaker 4: got home. The guys on TV had no idea what happened.
Speaker 4: Now I know what happened. That was an on side
Speaker 4: punt right after the safety. When the Bengals did the
Speaker 4: free kick from the twenty yard line, they were trying
Speaker 4: to punt the ball straight up in the air. So
Speaker 4: that was intentional by Ryan Rico, hoping that the Lions
Speaker 4: would Muffet, maybe have some sort of blocker that's not
Speaker 4: used to catching the football Muffet and the Bengals could recover.
Speaker 4: An on side punt is legal, but with the dynamic
Speaker 4: kick off rule that was instituted last year, you have
Speaker 4: to land it in a certain zone, and Ryan Rico
Speaker 4: didn't quite pull it off. I talked to him about
Speaker 4: the on side punt yesterday.
Speaker 15: You don't see it a whole lot because it can
Speaker 15: only happen after a safety and in those situations, you're
Speaker 15: really just trying to put the other team in a
Speaker 15: difficult spot.
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't practice it as much as they should have.
Speaker 1: With that, you got to.
Speaker 15: Land it in between the thirty and the forty five
Speaker 15: yard line. They're able to signal fair catch, which can
Speaker 15: make it more or less confusing for them, but really
Speaker 15: you're just trying to give your guys time to basically
Speaker 15: go crowd the returner, hope they're gonna muff it, and
Speaker 15: so yeah, it was basically you just get that thing
Speaker 15: up as high as possible and try and put the
Speaker 15: returner in a difficult position. Unfortunately, it went long and
Speaker 15: so it made it easier on them.
Speaker 1: It kind of takes the pressure out of that.
Speaker 15: But in those situations, you're like, Okay, what do we
Speaker 15: have and what can we do to make it difficult
Speaker 15: for him?
Speaker 4: It went to the forty six, so you went one
Speaker 4: yard too far.
Speaker 15: Yes, one yard shorter, and it's like, wow, that was perfect. Unfortunately,
Speaker 15: that's how the special teams goes a lot of the time.
Speaker 15: Close just isn't quite good enough.
Speaker 13: Did you even know that there was such a thing
Speaker 13: as an on side punt?
Speaker 15: Yes, yes, it happened a couple times last year. We've
Speaker 15: watched the film on it several times. It is one
Speaker 15: of those situations that you're like, oh, like, when are
Speaker 15: we ever going to be in there? But I feel
Speaker 15: like Darren has done a great job of talking us
Speaker 15: through it what the goal is, and unfortunately I just
Speaker 15: got to be able to execute it better.
Speaker 4: So Lap, I'm ticked off at myself that I didn't
Speaker 4: recognize that was an on side punt because you told
Speaker 4: me years ago that Don Shula, as the head coach
Speaker 4: of the Dolphins, pulled one off against the Bengals in
Speaker 4: your playing Sure.
Speaker 12: Did, and I was a rookie and Don Shula. The
Speaker 12: punt just like a kickoff. Once it travels ten yards,
Speaker 12: it's a free ball anybody's football. But if you touch it,
Speaker 12: if you're the return team and you touch it and
Speaker 12: don't take the possession of it, secure possession of it,
Speaker 12: and the kickoff or punt coverage team balls on. It's
Speaker 12: their ball. It's stair a ball right there. In fact,
Speaker 12: Paul Brown ran one when I was a rookie as well,
Speaker 12: and makes sense that Don Shula would because Don Chula
Speaker 12: played for Paul Brown with the Cleveland Browns in his
Speaker 12: playing days. So these these are two coaches that know
Speaker 12: every single period, punctuation mark, word written in the rule
Speaker 12: book and can recite it. Probably can recite it in
Speaker 12: their sleep. But it's it's interesting. I mean, there's something
Speaker 12: that that Darren Simmons covers. I know he covers on
Speaker 12: side kicks. I know that for a fact. He's told me,
Speaker 12: his players are told me. So it's not like the
Speaker 12: Bengals were ill prepared for.
Speaker 13: It, right.
Speaker 4: What's different now from when you played is that back
Speaker 4: then there was a total element of surprise. I remember
Speaker 4: you telling me, Yeah, there were guys on the sideline saying,
Speaker 4: what just happened? You can do that, Whereas now, because
Speaker 4: of the dynamic kickoff rule, whenever you do an on
Speaker 4: side kick, you have to tell the opponent otherwise their
Speaker 4: coverage team would be way down the field. So the
Speaker 4: Lions knew an onside kick was coming. You still have
Speaker 4: the element of surprise.
Speaker 13: In how you do it.
Speaker 4: They probably not accustomed to seeing a punch try to
Speaker 4: kick it a mile up in the air, but they
Speaker 4: do know that some sort of onside kick is coming, right.
Speaker 12: There's a trick element to it, you know, some kind
Speaker 12: of element or surprise when it happens when it's not declared.
Speaker 12: I've seen players think that the played the kickoff, just
Speaker 12: miss the punt, just missed the ball, whift on the ball,
Speaker 12: you know, either a total whiff or a partial whiff
Speaker 12: or whatever, and just caught a little piece of it. So, yeah,
Speaker 12: it's special teams one third of the game. Darren Simms
Speaker 12: will tell you that it's one third of the football game.
Speaker 12: It determines field position for points scored, yards in your favor,
Speaker 12: help your defense, potential turnovers as a result, maybe turnovers
Speaker 12: during the play, and special teams. It's a very important
Speaker 12: part of the game. There's no doubt.
Speaker 4: I love when obscure things happened. There was that game
Speaker 4: last year where just before the half a guy made
Speaker 4: a fair catch and they were able to take advantage
Speaker 4: of the rule where you can attempt the field goal
Speaker 4: with nobody up front to try to block it under
Speaker 4: those circumstances, and it worked. But these are the types
Speaker 4: of things that you might see once every twenty years. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like an onside punt.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, you know, and Paul Brown, we did that when
Speaker 12: he was head coach. Signal fair kit right for the half.
Speaker 12: Last play of that first half, signal fair catch went
Speaker 12: for like a fifty eight yard field goal, as I recall,
Speaker 12: something like that, fifty seven to fifty eight yards and
Speaker 12: just missed it, barely missed it, but made a heck
Speaker 12: of a run at it.
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Speaker 13: Let's get to the news of the day.
Speaker 4: It is the Kettering Health Injury Report, brought to you
Speaker 4: by the Kettering Health Network. A few guys to keep
Speaker 4: an eye on on Sunday in Green Bay. So Jamar
Speaker 4: Chase was at practice this morning. He was there for
Speaker 4: team meetings, but he wasn't feeling well, so they sent
Speaker 4: him home early. He's listed his questionable. I think he's
Speaker 4: going to play. I'm not too concerned about that one happen.
Speaker 13: What do you think?
Speaker 12: I agree with you, Dan, I think he's definitely going
Speaker 12: to play. You know, I think hopefully fluids, rest, rest, Yeah,
Speaker 12: getting a good, a really good night's sleep, and in
Speaker 12: not overdoing it the rest of the week physically because
Speaker 12: he is a worker now, he's a worker bee and
Speaker 12: he'll be in the weight room. He'll he'll be doing
Speaker 12: all kinds of things, treadmill. I mean, he's just always
Speaker 12: looking to improve his body. So take it easy, rest up,
Speaker 12: and get ready to kick the packers' asses.
Speaker 4: Make it butts please right Shamar Stuart did some practicing
Speaker 4: this week, but he's listed as doubtful for Sunday. I
Speaker 4: don't think we're going to see Schamar back yet with
Speaker 4: that ankle injury. Hopefully next Thursday at home against the
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers, Shamar Stuart will be in action. There's a
Speaker 4: concern at left guard. Dylan Fairchild is dealing with a
Speaker 4: sore knee. He didn't practice on Wednesday, he didn't practice
Speaker 4: on Thursday. He was limited at practice today, listed is
Speaker 4: questionable for Sunday. That one seems very iffy to me.
Speaker 4: If he can't play, You've got a couple of options. Obviously,
Speaker 4: I'm drawing a blank now, and who started at right
Speaker 4: guard at the beginning of the year the or no,
Speaker 4: hold on a second, let me get my chart here.
Speaker 4: I hate to blank out on you, all, right, Dal Reisner? Okay,
Speaker 4: Don Reisner started at right guard up in the second
Speaker 4: and third games. He's played plenty of left guard in
Speaker 4: the past, so Reisner could kick over the left guard.
Speaker 4: Lucas Patrick also returned to practice this week right He's
Speaker 4: been a full participant in practice. He's not back on
Speaker 4: the active roster yet, so they'd have to put him
Speaker 4: on the roster they'd have to make a roster move
Speaker 4: in order for him to play.
Speaker 13: That could happen.
Speaker 4: But if fair Child can't go, You've got two good
Speaker 4: veteran options in and Patrick, you.
Speaker 12: Do, you have two good veteran options Patrick. You know,
Speaker 12: even though he's practicing, the fact that he, you know,
Speaker 12: is still hasn't been activated as such is a little
Speaker 12: bit of a concern, but not much. I mean, I
Speaker 12: think if he's if he's practicing and going full go
Speaker 12: at practice, he should be okay. He should be ready
Speaker 12: to go.
Speaker 1: Is another.
Speaker 12: He's an interesting story. I mean, he's played a lot
Speaker 12: of football. He's been in multiple offenses, all different kinds
Speaker 12: of experiences, different teammates, working with different centers and tackles,
Speaker 12: knowing what that's like, getting up to speed where you're
Speaker 12: on the same page with your techniques and the fundamentals
Speaker 12: and everything that goes with it. But it doesn't happen overnight.
Speaker 12: And he has not had many snaps with any offensive
Speaker 12: lineman whatsoever on the Cincinnati Bengals roster. So right guard's
Speaker 12: a problem. Right guard's a question mark. You know, it's
Speaker 12: like an uncertainty in the offensive line and in the
Speaker 12: offensive position group or personnel. So the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 12: are circling it. There's no doubt defensive line, coach, coordinator, players, detackles,
Speaker 12: they're all gonna want to take their turn, take a
Speaker 12: shot at whoever's playing right guard. It's going to be
Speaker 12: interesting how they hold up.
Speaker 4: Jalen River is at right guard, and then either Fairchild
Speaker 4: if he can come back, or Reisner or Patrick at left.
Speaker 12: Guard right correct and you know it's going to be
Speaker 12: when you have three you don't have one. You know,
Speaker 12: that's the thing. If you're getting three guys ready to play,
Speaker 12: and there's there's nothing wrong with it, I don't. I
Speaker 12: don't think there's you know, the Bengals should receive the
Speaker 12: merits and they're grading for preparation for the court during
Speaker 12: the course of the week, for having multiple guys ready
Speaker 12: to play the left guard position, and you know, guard
Speaker 12: and center and tackle position overall. I think I think
Speaker 12: you should have as many as many players as you
Speaker 12: possibly can be able to play more than one position,
Speaker 12: because you know, sometimes injury bug really crops up during
Speaker 12: the course of the game and you're you guys are
Speaker 12: going down like flies and you need everything you got
Speaker 12: and they have to be able to do multiple things,
Speaker 12: but it's going to be interesting to see how Riisener
Speaker 12: does it right guard and whoever the left guard is.
Speaker 12: Just don't be a negative, you know, just just play
Speaker 12: solid football. Just when Ted Carris is passing a you know,
Speaker 12: a a stunting defensive lineman over there towards. You be
Speaker 12: there where you're when you're supposed to be there, how
Speaker 12: you're supposed to be there, doing what you're supposed to
Speaker 12: be when you're there. So that's gonna be interesting, and
Speaker 12: I'm sure they'll be ready.
Speaker 4: So the Bengals made a dramatic move on Tuesday with
Speaker 4: the acquisition a veteran quarterback Joe Flacco, and then announced
Speaker 4: on Wednesday he will be the starter this Sunday against
Speaker 4: the Packers.
Speaker 13: Why did they do it? Why did they do it?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's pretty clear Jake Browning was really struggling.
Speaker 4: If you heard him in his postgame news conference on Sunday,
Speaker 4: it sound like sounded like his confidence was shot. It's
Speaker 4: understandable that the team would think, well, man, we know
Speaker 4: he can play, but we can't really afford to let
Speaker 4: him break out of a slump. We've got to do
Speaker 4: something ye to try to stay in the race because
Speaker 4: the AFC is a jumbled mess. The Ravens are one
Speaker 4: in four, the Chiefs are two and three. Pittsburgh's three
Speaker 4: and one, but the jury's still out on just how
Speaker 4: good Pittsburgh is. The Bengals are trying to stay in
Speaker 4: the hunt with the hopes that Joe Burrow is back
Speaker 4: in December, and Joe fully intends to return if the
Speaker 4: games are meaningful. So the front office is acted. The
Speaker 4: players appreciate it. Here's tight end.
Speaker 18: Mike KASICKI credit to them for understanding, you know, the
Speaker 18: talent in this locker room, and.
Speaker 1: You know, just giving us.
Speaker 18: The uh the opportunity to go out there and you know,
Speaker 18: be really uh competitive here and see where we can
Speaker 18: kind of go in these next I would say four
Speaker 18: or five weeks leading into that bye week, and uh,
Speaker 18: you know, I honestly have an opportunity here to play
Speaker 18: two games in five days or whatever the heck it is.
Speaker 18: So that's a great opportunity to you know, when you're
Speaker 18: in a slump, we'll go win two in five days
Speaker 18: and that'll that'll that'll help turn it around.
Speaker 12: So great opportunity for us and a lot of excitement.
Speaker 1: In the locker room, all right.
Speaker 4: So I think Mike Kasicki set it up pretty well there.
Speaker 4: The Bengals have a very tough game coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Green Bay is an ex excellent team.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: They've got a big home field advantage at Lambeau. Even
Speaker 4: if Joe Flacco plays great, it might not be enough
Speaker 4: to beat the Packers. So let's just say that the
Speaker 4: Bengals don't win on Sunday. After that, three straight home
Speaker 4: games Thursday night game against Pittsburgh. Thursday home games are
Speaker 4: a big advantage, yep. A home game against the Jets,
Speaker 4: the only team that hasn't won a game home game
Speaker 4: against the Bears. The Bears are getting better, but they're
Speaker 4: not good yet.
Speaker 16: Right.
Speaker 4: You could lose on Sunday, win those three games and
Speaker 4: be over five hundred five and four going into your
Speaker 4: bye week.
Speaker 12: And more than halfway halfway point of the season, basically
Speaker 12: five and four steal in the thick of all of it.
Speaker 12: And I think that's what they're they're thinking, at least that,
Speaker 12: you know, I fully expect them. I'm not saying they're
Speaker 12: gonna go up there and beat Green Bay. They're a
Speaker 12: heavy underdog, you know, green Bay should be favored, and
Speaker 12: they are. And like you said, Dan, the biggest reason
Speaker 12: lambeau Field Man. That place is tough. It's a tough
Speaker 12: place to play. Played there two or three times, two
Speaker 12: times anywhere that I can recall right off the top
Speaker 12: of my head, And I mean, couldn't hear myself, think,
Speaker 12: could not hear any cadence that was being said by
Speaker 12: the quarterback, couldn't hear the center and turn around to
Speaker 12: look at me and calling sig calling, making calls to
Speaker 12: set up blocking patterns. Couldn't hear that, couldn't hear anything,
Speaker 12: And that is unsettling. That gives you a feeling of discomfort,
Speaker 12: you know, and next thing you know, you're not You're
Speaker 12: unsure and uncertainty and and and when you're unsure and uncertain,
Speaker 12: it makes cowards of all of us, you know. So
Speaker 12: you got to go out there and be brave, breaking
Speaker 12: the huddle, get to the lone of scrimmage, feel good
Speaker 12: about what you're doing, how you're doing it, play at
Speaker 12: a at a level of intensity that you know you
Speaker 12: can be proud of. That crowd, though, is going to
Speaker 12: try to make it difficult. I mean they just look
Speaker 12: right at you. And laugh at you and get louder.
Speaker 12: It's a very very difficult place to play in terms
Speaker 12: of I mean they you know, those meters a measure
Speaker 12: crowd noise. They try to peg that meter every single snap.
Speaker 12: I mean, they're crazy up there.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Packers fans, when my son was born, just
Speaker 4: for the fun of it, I decided to put him
Speaker 4: on the Packers season ticket weight list.
Speaker 12: Can he's still waiting.
Speaker 4: We were living in Boston at the time. Who knows
Speaker 4: where he would be when the age came that he'd
Speaker 4: be able to buy his tickets. I just thought, what
Speaker 4: the heck, who knows, Maybe he'll be living in Chicago
Speaker 4: by then. Sure, so I put him on the wait list.
Speaker 4: Sam is now nineteen years old. Every year you get
Speaker 4: a postcard that updates you where you are on the list.
Speaker 4: We got it maybe three or four weeks ago. Nineteen
Speaker 4: years into his life, he is eighty eight thousand, one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty four people away.
Speaker 12: That's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Last year the list dropped by one thousand and seven
Speaker 4: and seventy three. So at that pace, another fifty years
Speaker 4: from now, approximately when he's almost seventy years old, he'll
Speaker 4: be able to get tickets. Historically it takes about fifty
Speaker 4: years to get your get your person spot on the list.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 12: So Sam, he'll be about my age when he's able
Speaker 12: to try to secure and procure.
Speaker 4: Unless there's some good years between now and then where
Speaker 4: a bunch of tickets open up.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'll tell you it's that that place is, you know,
Speaker 12: it's it's a unique place to play, There's no doubt
Speaker 12: about it. And when you're a Packer fan, you're a
Speaker 12: Packer fan for life. Like the like those lists just
Speaker 12: that you recited, just confirmed Dan, I mean it's crazy.
Speaker 12: My in laws by marriage, Dave's mother and father in
Speaker 12: law live up there, and many it's Green Bay Packer
Speaker 12: tickets are impossib That's like, you know, that's the number
Speaker 12: one item on everybody's wish list, gift list for Christmas.
Speaker 12: You know, it's like, hey, Santa Claus is going to
Speaker 12: be bringing some season tickets down the chimney. It's it's
Speaker 12: a great place to play. I know, guys have met
Speaker 12: guys that have played for the Green Bay Packers, And
Speaker 12: when you're a player in Green Bay, you don't pay
Speaker 12: for a thing, man, I mean, you pay for nothing, housing,
Speaker 12: cars or you know, get given to you meals. There's
Speaker 12: not a bar tab that ever makes its way to
Speaker 12: a Green Bay Packer. That place is great to play
Speaker 12: with all the fringies man.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 4: Coming up next, one of the number one things the
Speaker 4: Bengals are going to have to do on Sunday to
Speaker 4: have a shot at beating the Packers is handling number one.
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons A Marius Mims talks about that challenge when
Speaker 4: we come back.
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Speaker 4: it's going to be two thirty to five thirty based
Speaker 4: on other programming. We'll tell you when that's the case,
Speaker 4: but most of the time it's three to six, and
Speaker 4: we typically have a Bengals player join us in the
Speaker 4: final hour of the show. That will be the case today.
Speaker 4: We'll be joined by linebacker Orren Burks in just a
Speaker 4: few minutes. The Bengals take on the Packers at lambeau
Speaker 4: Field this Sunday. This game got tougher for Cincinnati in
Speaker 4: late August when the Packers made a trade. They sent
Speaker 4: three time Pro bowler Kenny Clark to the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 4: along with two first round draft picks to get Micah Parsons.
Speaker 4: For good reason, He's been a pro for four years.
Speaker 4: He's been a Pro Bowler all four He's certainly one
Speaker 4: of the best defensive players in the league, and the
Speaker 4: Packers showed how they felt about him by not only
Speaker 4: making that trade, but by giving him a four year,
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty eight million dollar extension forty seven
Speaker 4: million dollars a year for a defensive player. That is
Speaker 4: a record for a non quarterback.
Speaker 1: He got paid, boy, sure did.
Speaker 4: Bengals faced him last year when he was still with
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. Cincinnati won the game. A Marius Mims
Speaker 4: was the primary guy that had to block him. Michael
Speaker 4: Parsons didn't have a sack and didn't have a tackle
Speaker 4: in that game. I've talked to a Marius Mims this
Speaker 4: week so about about trying to handle miche Micah Parsons again.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, I think Michael's the best d N
Speaker 19: in the NFL other than Miles Garrett. If you hasn't,
Speaker 19: he's just the guys who I haven't played against. The
Speaker 19: don't be a challenge at always, especially on the road.
Speaker 19: It's gonna be a game worse about me again, honestly,
Speaker 19: just just doing what coaches telling me in practice, and
Speaker 19: you know, how can you know, trying to mutralize them
Speaker 19: as much as possible and knowing you know, he's gonna
Speaker 19: make his fair share of plays, you know. I mean,
Speaker 19: it's gonna happen with a guy like that. But really,
Speaker 19: like I said, my mind set is relative to just
Speaker 19: you know, go out there and play the game football.
Speaker 19: Do I can play, continue to get better, and you know,
Speaker 19: if I let woman, like not let one Mian's stake
Speaker 19: or one you know, one small minor, you know, step
Speaker 19: in that game and turn.
Speaker 1: Into like the whole game.
Speaker 19: So, like I said, boy against a great player, not
Speaker 19: one of the best players on defense, and ever, I mean,
Speaker 19: I think he's a good Like I said, you know
Speaker 19: he's a good player, but I know he's a good player.
Speaker 19: But I said, I'm ready for the challenge. You know,
Speaker 19: like I said, last year, he was with another team
Speaker 19: last year who played in Dallas, and this year is
Speaker 19: gonna be in on Green Bay, so it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4: Do you gain confidence from having played him and having
Speaker 4: held out?
Speaker 19: I feel like, you know, in this league, gotta have
Speaker 19: accomplish against everybody because if not, you will you will
Speaker 19: get killed in this league. Like I said, there's too
Speaker 19: many good guys. If you're not confident in yourself first,
Speaker 19: then I feel like, you know it's gonna You're gonna
Speaker 19: be in the world of trouble is billing and os
Speaker 19: with you. So just going out there playing stress free,
Speaker 19: just going out there knowing the you know you're not
Speaker 19: gonna play a perfect game, but knowing like I said,
Speaker 19: if you beat that guy across from you more time
Speaker 19: than he bahu, you know what I'm saying, you have
Speaker 19: a good chance to win, especially with that guy right there.
Speaker 19: If you can neutralize him, you know we got a
Speaker 19: good chance.
Speaker 4: Lapp, tell me what the week was like in your
Speaker 4: playing days when you knew you were going to be
Speaker 4: blocking me and Joe Green or Cray Culp, one of
Speaker 4: the elite players.
Speaker 13: Of your era.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a good question, Dan, I remember vividly, not
Speaker 12: a whole lot of sleep, you know. I mean, you
Speaker 12: think about it all the time, every waking moment. You're
Speaker 12: thinking about how am I going to counter his best move?
Speaker 12: You watch, you study film back then, tape today, and
Speaker 12: you study it and study it and study it some
Speaker 12: more and try to find tells. Tells are something that
Speaker 12: they do. Maybe they change their stance, maybe you know,
Speaker 12: they shift their weight, whatever it might be, to give
Speaker 12: you an idea, a little bit of a an edge
Speaker 12: as to what they're thinking about doing and how they're
Speaker 12: going to do it. So those guys are a challenge,
Speaker 12: I mean, a supreme it's the ultimate challenge. It's the
Speaker 12: best that the NFL has to offer the best of
Speaker 12: the best. But if you perform well, all of a sudden,
Speaker 12: there be around the league is Oh wow, man, who's
Speaker 12: seventy one over there right tackle for the Bengals. Yeah,
Speaker 12: I've heard about him, mimp. That dude's a player, man.
Speaker 12: Look at look at how he handled u Michaeh. Parsons
Speaker 12: on the edge. Not a whole lot of people can
Speaker 12: handle Michael Parsons like that. Toss him around and and
Speaker 12: uh and keep him from you know, wrecking a football
Speaker 12: game against your offensive football team. So that's how you
Speaker 12: have to look at it. You have to look at
Speaker 12: it as not like, oh boy, what's gonna what's gonna
Speaker 12: happen to me? I mean, how many times are you
Speaker 12: gonna beat me? You don't want to go in there
Speaker 12: thinking negatively. You want to go in there just the
Speaker 12: opposite thinking positively. It's my time to shine. I get
Speaker 12: a chance to go block Michaeh. Parsons, I'm gonna show
Speaker 12: the league I'm a football player.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, take a time out. Coming up next,
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco explains why he is still playing at the
Speaker 4: age of forty. This is the Bengals pep Rally Show
Speaker 4: presented by Just Beared Chicken live from the on the
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Speaker 4: from the five, Flacco looking to pass his throw caught
Speaker 4: in the middle of the end zone by Cedric Tilman
Speaker 4: for a Cleveland go ahead touchdown.
Speaker 12: Joe Flacco gives the old fish pump have to throwing
Speaker 12: that pass in the middle of the field, realizing that
Speaker 12: his receiver caught it for the touchdown, good route run
Speaker 12: by Cedric Tilman. Flaco had his eyes on him the
Speaker 12: whole way and delivered a strike.
Speaker 4: That was Back in Week one, Joe Flacco threw for
Speaker 4: two hundred and ninety yards in that game, again Cincinnati. Fortunately,
Speaker 4: the Bengals came away with the win, thanks in part
Speaker 4: to some poor kicking by the Browns a rookie kicker
Speaker 4: Andre Schmidt. But in any case, wasn't Joe Flacco's fault.
Speaker 4: He played well and now he'll look to play well
Speaker 4: in a Bengals uniform this Sunday and beyond until the
Speaker 4: return of Joe Burrow. Joe Flacco a former Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4: This is his eighteenth NFL season. He's made something like
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty four million dollars in the NFL.
Speaker 4: He's the father of five. He's a terrific guy. From
Speaker 4: all accounts. Everybody that knows him seems to love him.
Speaker 4: I asked him earlier today, all right, with all of
Speaker 4: those accolades and the money and the young family, et cetera,
Speaker 4: why are you still doing it?
Speaker 13: Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 17: I just feel like I have like a lot to
Speaker 17: offer to a football team. I feel like I've put
Speaker 17: in a lot of work my whole life to get
Speaker 17: to this point in just terms of playing in the
Speaker 17: NFL in general, and I have a I hopefully will
Speaker 17: have a long life when I'm done. But you only
Speaker 17: get a chance to play in the NFL once, and
Speaker 17: I feel like I've worked really hard, like I said,
Speaker 17: to be a guy that gets to play in the NFL,
Speaker 17: and I don't want to take that for granted.
Speaker 16: I still like I can play the.
Speaker 17: Game at a high level, and I want to be
Speaker 17: able to look at myself in the mirror when I'm
Speaker 17: fifty years old and be able to say that, you know,
Speaker 17: I gave it everything I had.
Speaker 16: Lap.
Speaker 4: When I hear those words from Joe Flacco, I'm reminded
Speaker 4: of something you told me about your first offensive line coach,
Speaker 4: Tiger Johnson, who told you when you were just starting out,
Speaker 4: do this as long as you can.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that was his advice. So you know, it's like,
Speaker 12: do this as long as you can. You're never going
Speaker 12: to find anything like it. It's the most unique way
Speaker 12: to make a living that there is out there. When
Speaker 12: you're a professional athlete, you're blessed and you're very fortunate
Speaker 12: and very lucky. You understand that and take full advantage
Speaker 12: of it. And I think Joe Flacco doesn't want to
Speaker 12: retire too soon and then be watching games say I
Speaker 12: can still do that. I can do that better than him.
Speaker 12: I can throw the ball better than he's throwing it
Speaker 12: Right now. I shouldn't have retired. I still have football
Speaker 12: left in me. You want to be in when you're
Speaker 12: done playing. You want to be an old, washed up,
Speaker 12: retired football player that has nothing left to offer from
Speaker 12: a playing standpoint. Maybe get into coaching, whatever your post
Speaker 12: playing career. But he's not there yet. I think he
Speaker 12: realizes he has miles to go before he sleeps.
Speaker 4: It looked like his career might be over two years ago.
Speaker 4: He was on the couch for much of the season,
Speaker 4: and then the Browns were desperate in late November they
Speaker 4: reached out to him. He wound up starting a few
Speaker 4: weeks later and had this incredible renaissance where he threw
Speaker 4: for three hundred plus yards in four straight games, led
Speaker 4: them to the playoffs, won the Comeback Player of the
Speaker 4: Year award. I think that reinforced his love of the
Speaker 4: game and his desire to keep on going until nobody
Speaker 4: will give me a deal.
Speaker 12: I agree, Dan, because he realized five straight games three
Speaker 12: hundred yards or more passing, I can still play, and
Speaker 12: everybody in the league now knows that I can still play.
Speaker 12: So I mean, there's going to be a lot of
Speaker 12: people out there that would like to have my services,
Speaker 12: you know, and I'm going to be paid well for
Speaker 12: services rendered. I still you know, I made a lot
Speaker 12: of money for my family. I've been very fortunate in
Speaker 12: that regard, but there's nothing wrong with making more.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 12: I might as well go out there and do what
Speaker 12: I can do better than most people can do until
Speaker 12: I can't do it anymore. That's what it boils down to.
Speaker 12: You know, he wasn't done. He wasn't done playing. He
Speaker 12: wasn't done enjoying the locker room with his teammates. You know,
Speaker 12: there's something to be said for that. Like Tiger also said, Man,
Speaker 12: this is unique. Boys, You're never going to experience anything
Speaker 12: like this. You're never gonna experience relationships like this that
Speaker 12: you have with your teammates outside of the game of football.
Speaker 12: Enjoy it while you can.
Speaker 4: Man, when he takes the field on Sunday, he will
Speaker 4: become the first forty year old to ever play for
Speaker 4: the Senseinnati Bengals, the oldest player in franchise history before
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco, long snapper Clark Harris, who is still in
Speaker 4: a Bengals uniform at the age of thirty eight.
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Speaker 4: It is a Friday afternoon here in the Queens City.
Speaker 4: The work week is just about done. The happy hour
Speaker 4: is underway, and we've got a lot of football to
Speaker 4: look forward to. High school football tonight, bearcat football tomorrow
Speaker 4: at noon at home against UCF, and of course the
Speaker 4: Bengals heading to Green Bay to take on the Packers
Speaker 4: this Sunday at four twenty five. You're listening to the
Speaker 4: Bengals pep Rowley Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. We
Speaker 4: are live as we are every Friday afternoon here at
Speaker 4: the on the Rhine Eatery, that is the food hall
Speaker 4: above the downtown Kroger. Every week we have a player
Speaker 4: join us in the final hour, and we are delighted
Speaker 4: to welcome our guest today. He's in his eighth NFL season,
Speaker 4: his first year with the Cincinnati Bengals. He's wearing a
Speaker 4: wedding ring today, but he could be wearing a Super
Speaker 4: Bowl ring because he won one last year with the
Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles. Let's welcome linebacker and special teams Ace Orrin Berks.
Speaker 16: Thank you guys for having me, happy to be here.
Speaker 4: Thank you for showing tell us about that Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 4: Did that baby look when you opened up the little
Speaker 4: box and got your first look at that ring?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well, the ring ceremony was the weekend before we started camp,
Speaker 1: and I had the ability to go to Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: you know, experience that with my teammates for one last time,
Speaker 1: and you open the box and just taken away by
Speaker 1: how big big the ring is, how the details that
Speaker 1: they put into it, and you know, just the journey
Speaker 1: to get to that point.
Speaker 16: So it was definitely a special moment.
Speaker 12: Yeah, the journey is special. And I never I played
Speaker 12: in the Super Bowl as a player, but never won it.
Speaker 12: But and I remember how crestfallen I was, how bitterly
Speaker 12: disappointed I was in the locker room, and just an
Speaker 12: unbelievable feeling just kind of swarms you, you know, all
Speaker 12: over you. But I do remember that same season winning
Speaker 12: the AOC championship game and going in that locker room
Speaker 12: and how celebratory it was, and it's like, man, it
Speaker 12: was an unbelievable place to be. The adrenaline rush that
Speaker 12: you got was even more than you got when you
Speaker 12: were playing in the football game. What's it like to
Speaker 12: win a Super Bowl? Tell me what the adrenaline rush
Speaker 12: is like when you win the darn thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're definitely on a high. Just you know, all
Speaker 1: the emotions and you know kind of comes to you
Speaker 1: in stages. You know, you're kind of in shock right
Speaker 1: after it happens and you don't know what to what
Speaker 1: to expect, of what to think. But I feel like
Speaker 1: it didn't really hit me until the parade. We get
Speaker 1: back to Philadelphia and the streets are filled with Eagles
Speaker 1: fans and you know, just just really get to embrace
Speaker 1: the moment and just be where your feet are and
Speaker 1: that that was just really really cool experience in it
Speaker 1: my wife as well on the parade tour. So I
Speaker 1: hope we can bring that here to Cincinnati.
Speaker 13: Amen.
Speaker 16: That's up.
Speaker 1: We're all hoping for no doubt.
Speaker 4: I mentioned it's year eight for you in the NFL
Speaker 4: or and in the previous seven you've been on playoff
Speaker 4: teams six times. Wow, you have been on winning teams
Speaker 4: year after year after year. Do you feel blessed that
Speaker 4: that's been the case.
Speaker 16: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I have a very fortunate path, you know, starting with
Speaker 1: Green Bay, going to San Francisco, and then finishing with
Speaker 1: with the with the Eagles last year missing the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Only my rookie year have I think five NFC championship games,
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls in a row. Like it's It's unheard
Speaker 1: of in anybody's career. So I don't take anything for granted.
Speaker 1: But you know, in all those situations at the locker
Speaker 1: room is the key having a great group of guys
Speaker 1: that get what it takes, you know, to get to
Speaker 1: that level and you're going to experience some anniversary like
Speaker 1: we are right now, and you know, it's how you
Speaker 1: bounce back from that.
Speaker 12: So your quarterback is forty years old, That to me
Speaker 12: is mind boggling, and I'm like, you got to be
Speaker 12: kidding me. He can still come and play in the
Speaker 12: National Football League at a high level, not just play,
Speaker 12: but play in a dominant type level of performance at
Speaker 12: the age of forty years old. I mean, there's no
Speaker 12: quit in Joe Flacco. What what is he? When when
Speaker 12: the players saw him for the first time, you know,
Speaker 12: in the locker room walking around or whatever and getting
Speaker 12: ready to go out and perform, what was going for
Speaker 12: everybody's mind. It was like, yeah, man, check out Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1: He looks pretty good, doesn't he.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think immediately he just brings a sense of poise
Speaker 1: and experience. You know, he's seen probably every look you
Speaker 1: could think of in the game of football. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: throw into a lot of great receivers in this time.
Speaker 1: But again, just his poise, the way he handles the huddle. Huddle,
Speaker 1: even just his first week with a new offense, it
Speaker 1: seems like he's been in this offense for a while.
Speaker 1: From from a deepest perspective, so excited to see what
Speaker 1: he does this week.
Speaker 4: I saw the news break on social media. Jamar Chase
Speaker 4: said yesterday that t Higgins called him with the news.
Speaker 4: Jamar said he thought it was BS, but then he
Speaker 4: double checked and it turned out to be true. How
Speaker 4: did you learn that Joe Flacco is now your teammate?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actually in the in the locker room
Speaker 1: getting some recovery in on the off day, and you know,
Speaker 1: reading reading through social media, and I see it pop up,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a couple other guys in the
Speaker 1: locker room at the same time, so all of our
Speaker 1: heads pop up at the same time. We're like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: what the heck is going on? So it's just one
Speaker 1: of those moments. I feel like for fans, they think
Speaker 1: we get the inside scoop beforehand, but a lot of
Speaker 1: times we're finding out at the same time as the
Speaker 1: fans do. So uh, Yeah, just welcome him with open arms,
Speaker 1: and you know he's gonna step in and do his job.
Speaker 12: That's that's the thing I think that's impressive about him
Speaker 12: step in and be a good teammate and do his job.
Speaker 12: Guys that I've talked to, both coaches and players with
Speaker 12: the Bengals and other teams, say that this guy is
Speaker 12: ego lists. You know, it's not all about Joe Flacco.
Speaker 12: You know, he's not. He's not looking at teammates and saying,
Speaker 12: you know, you're beneath me. You know, I've played in
Speaker 12: this league forever, longer than you're ever gonna think about playing,
Speaker 12: and I put up numbers that you're never gonna even
Speaker 12: think about matching. But it's it doesn't phase him the
Speaker 12: way that you think it might. What type of guy
Speaker 12: is Joe Flacco in the locker room?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had a few encounters with him, but every
Speaker 1: one of them has been, you know, a great delight
Speaker 1: just really getting to know him as a person. And
Speaker 1: the way that he leads as a quarterback is gonna
Speaker 1: be different from somebody else, you know, But like I said,
Speaker 1: the experience that he has, he definitely, you know, carries
Speaker 1: that in his professionalism and his poise and excited to
Speaker 1: see how it turns out for this weekend in Green Bay.
Speaker 4: He played against him before. Anything stand out from those
Speaker 4: previous meetings.
Speaker 16: Yeah, he can.
Speaker 1: He can definitely deal the ball and get the ball
Speaker 1: out when he needs to. He is on time with
Speaker 1: all of his reads. You know, we just played the
Speaker 1: Browns not too long ago, so you know, matching up
Speaker 1: against this guy now he's in our locker room is
Speaker 1: always a crazy thing in the league where you know,
Speaker 1: at any point in time and he could be in
Speaker 1: your locker room, you can get traded, you know, this
Speaker 1: crazy stuff that could happen. But excited to have him
Speaker 1: on board.
Speaker 12: He's playing against Green Bay Packers his second time.
Speaker 16: Yeah, this year that he's.
Speaker 12: Played three weeks, three weeks that he's played against the
Speaker 12: Green Bay Packers, So he knows what he's going to
Speaker 12: be looking at. He knows what the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 12: have defensive and they have a good, solid defensive football
Speaker 12: team everywhere. They've got sound NFL players. But you know,
Speaker 12: you're in a shitch situation where this this game is important.
Speaker 12: Then you have three in a row at home that
Speaker 12: you can really make some Hey, how important is this
Speaker 12: stretch and does Joe Joe flaccoll obviously realize realizes how
Speaker 12: important it is. And I'm sure he's excited about leading
Speaker 12: the football team.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For him, it's just getting into rhythm. You know, in
Speaker 1: this new offense. He could almost write this scout of report.
Speaker 1: You know, like you said, he played him a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, so he's very familiar with their personnel.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a familiar with our defense, you know.
Speaker 1: I know he's putting the time in extra meeting with
Speaker 1: the coaches and the players to be at his put
Speaker 1: his best foot forward. So it's our job, you know,
Speaker 1: as guys that have been here, that that have established
Speaker 1: culture with the Bengals, and really everybody's got to elevate
Speaker 1: their game, special teams, defense, everybody has to do their
Speaker 1: part to you know, uplift his his his debut as
Speaker 1: a Bengal.
Speaker 4: Our special guest today here in the Bengals pep Rally
Speaker 4: Show is linebacker Oran Burks. We are live at the
Speaker 4: on the Ryan Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. When we
Speaker 4: come back, well, listen back to one of the key
Speaker 4: plays that Oron made in the playoffs last year. Helped
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles win a Super Bowl title. This is
Speaker 4: the Bengals pep Rally Show on ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 13: Welcome back to the Bengals pep.
Speaker 4: Rally Show, presented by just Baar chick In. We appreciate
Speaker 4: the Bengals fans are with us here this afternoon. We're
Speaker 4: getting you set for the Bengals and Packers coming up
Speaker 4: at lambeau Field this Sunday at four to twenty five.
Speaker 4: The Bengals looking to even the record at three and
Speaker 4: three before coming home for three home games in a
Speaker 4: row against the Steelers, Jets, and Chicago Bears. Our special
Speaker 4: guest this afternoon is Orrin Burks. As we mentioned earlier,
Speaker 4: he captured a Super Bowl ring excuse me last year
Speaker 4: as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. To win that
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, Philadelphia had to capture four postseason games. The
Speaker 4: first playoff game was against the Green Bay Packers, and
Speaker 4: we're gonna listen back to how that playoff game began.
Speaker 11: Keyshawn Nixon is deep and we're underway another game in
Speaker 11: the National Football League postseason. Nixon will take it on
Speaker 11: the far side. Outside of the numbers to the twenty
Speaker 11: on a diagonal twenty five and he is smashed and
Speaker 11: he lost the football. It's inside the thirty and recovered
Speaker 11: by the Eagles. Or and Burks knocked it loose.
Speaker 12: Boy, what a hit that was.
Speaker 13: Or In Burkes just laid an unbelievable shot on Keyshawn
Speaker 13: Nixon to knock that ball out.
Speaker 1: Holy count.
Speaker 4: That's quite a way to begin the playoffs by forcing
Speaker 4: a fumble on the opening kickoff that your team recovers
Speaker 4: to begin the road to winning a Super Bowl.
Speaker 13: Describe that play.
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's special.
Speaker 1: You know, before the game, I told myself that I
Speaker 1: wanted to have a game, a play that was going
Speaker 1: to change the game. And you know, what better way
Speaker 1: to set the tone for the playoffs and than the
Speaker 1: force funball and the kickoff.
Speaker 16: So obviously a lot of a lot of emotions right
Speaker 16: after that.
Speaker 1: I probably blacked out, didn't know what happened afterwards, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know, really just wanted to it force like the
Speaker 1: physicality that we wanted to have the whole throughout the
Speaker 1: whole playoffs. So that really set the tone.
Speaker 12: That play like that, in the physicality, like you talking about,
Speaker 12: that's contagious to the rest of your teammates.
Speaker 16: But when you.
Speaker 12: Force the turnover on special teams on the first, very
Speaker 12: first time the ball is in play, the balls kicked
Speaker 12: return man's returning the football, Arren Burks knocks it out
Speaker 12: of his possession, puts a big hit on him. You
Speaker 12: changed the game. I mean, the whole dynamic changes now
Speaker 12: all of a sudden, they're they're behind the possession. You
Speaker 12: guys have an extra possession. They're never able to catch
Speaker 12: up unless you have a miserable, miserable day of turnovers yourself.
Speaker 12: Did any of that go through your mind or was
Speaker 12: it just pure elation of man I hit the crap.
Speaker 16: Out of him.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I mean honestly, right away I was like,
Speaker 1: I hope I don't get a flag off of this,
Speaker 1: which was you know, it would have been worth it
Speaker 1: in the and then but uh, you know, I've just
Speaker 1: made a great wrap tackle and our offense goes and
Speaker 1: scores right away, you know, again just to start ahead.
Speaker 1: And then at the end end of the next half
Speaker 1: we start with the ball against. Yeah, that's that's a big,
Speaker 1: big piece intended.
Speaker 12: You get the ball to start the second half, and
Speaker 12: you've basically got it to start the game as well
Speaker 12: because of your play. It's unreal.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So you were a key special teamer for Philadelphia last
Speaker 4: year and a valuable part of the linebacker rotation as well.
Speaker 4: But then in the postseason, na Kobe Dean gets hurt,
Speaker 4: you move into the starting lineup. You start the last
Speaker 4: three playoff games, including the Super Bowl. You played great,
Speaker 4: also forced to fumble in the NFC Championship game against Washington.
Speaker 4: So what did it mean to you to be thrust
Speaker 4: into that role when it mattered most and deliver?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 1: For me, always prepare like I'm a starter. You know,
Speaker 1: never know when your opportunity is gonna come. And you know,
Speaker 1: throughout my career, I've been a still harder special teams
Speaker 1: ace and you know, I kind of up and down.
Speaker 1: And for me, I just have so much joy in
Speaker 1: the process of learning about myself.
Speaker 16: What is going to prepare me to be the best.
Speaker 1: When when I get on the field, and uh, just
Speaker 1: really enhancing my room, the people around me. That's always been,
Speaker 1: you know, something I take great pride in, uh. And
Speaker 1: you know, to have the opportunity to play in the postseason.
Speaker 1: I have a ton of respect for Nakobe and the
Speaker 1: way that he led the team this past year.
Speaker 16: Uh.
Speaker 1: And you for me, a lot of it was doing
Speaker 1: him him him justice, you know, for him to go out.
Speaker 16: It is really tough to have a great year.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 16: But I wanted to put my best foot forward for.
Speaker 1: The team, uh, to add value where I could, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know it just led to even more of a
Speaker 1: special you know, super Bowl like having that that role,
Speaker 1: you know, going throughout postseason. Uh and knowing that it
Speaker 1: was mostly special teams, you know, throughout the whole year.
Speaker 16: But I knew I was gonna be ready when my
Speaker 16: opportunity came up.
Speaker 12: Heck of a heck of a thing to be on
Speaker 12: a super Bowl winning team. Man, that that's some memory
Speaker 12: that will be there forever for sure. Let's go back
Speaker 12: to maybe even high school and maybe even earlier than that.
Speaker 12: What coach was it that taught you the fundamentals the
Speaker 12: techniques necessary to be able to compete in the game
Speaker 12: of football? I mean, who was that that I saw?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 12: This guy, man, he's a specialmen.
Speaker 1: This kid's gonna be able to play.
Speaker 12: I have to do everything I can to just teach
Speaker 12: him as much as I know about the game.
Speaker 16: Who is the guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple I was actually a late, late
Speaker 1: starter to football. I played basketball, baseball, soccer, and I
Speaker 1: didn't really play football until my freshman year of high school.
Speaker 1: And that was really just to hang out with my friends.
Speaker 1: You know, going into you know, high school, you want
Speaker 1: to gather as many friends as you can, and sure.
Speaker 16: A lot of them were playing football.
Speaker 1: So I loved being competitive in athletics and just naturally
Speaker 1: thought i'd be a wide receiver. I was a tall
Speaker 1: guy and played safety as well, and I you know,
Speaker 1: moved all over the ball on defense throughout my time
Speaker 1: in high school. But one coach in particular, I would
Speaker 1: say Jerry Pinoni. He was my coach basically my junior
Speaker 1: year on and he just really instilled just hard work,
Speaker 1: running to the ball, like all the fundamentals that you
Speaker 1: need in terms of mentality that you know, really kind
Speaker 1: of helped me become the player I am today. And
Speaker 1: that's kind of when my football career took off. Was
Speaker 1: about my junior year. We went on the States run,
Speaker 1: ended up losing the state championship game, but that's when
Speaker 1: I really fell in love with the game of football,
Speaker 1: just the guys around me. Kwamena Van Dyke was one
Speaker 1: of my best friends that he was a linebacker with
Speaker 1: me as well, and he just taught me a lot
Speaker 1: about the physicality and the mindset that you have to have.
Speaker 1: And a number of guys that I'm still friends with today.
Speaker 1: I have a group text with guys that I went
Speaker 1: to problem with. Really, it's just special to have those
Speaker 1: people that you grew up with have bonded with and
Speaker 1: they share very similar values. We're all married, have kids
Speaker 1: and stuff now, so it's kind of cool to share
Speaker 1: those stories. But push Bnoni. He instilled a great deal
Speaker 1: that hard work and work ethic and all of us.
Speaker 1: Is she still with us, Yes, he's still with us. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he's got to be proud of you. Man.
Speaker 16: Absolutely, she reached out here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we keep in contact probably once year, at least
Speaker 1: once a year or so. But yeah, he's doing a
Speaker 1: great jobs. Cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he played college football at Vanderbilt. How heavily were
Speaker 4: you recruited and why did you choose Vandy?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I ended up with I think it was like fifteen offers,
Speaker 1: but ultimately got it down between UVA and Vanderbilt's very
Speaker 1: similar schools.
Speaker 16: Yeah, academics was very important.
Speaker 1: My sister she played softball and ended up at Stanford
Speaker 1: for so for our family, you know, academics was something
Speaker 1: very important being a student athlete. So ultimately take the
Speaker 1: leap of faith coming out of Nashville. Didn't really know
Speaker 1: anybody down there, but fell in love with the campus,
Speaker 1: the culture, and the guys there, and that was the
Speaker 1: best decision that could have made for me. Met my
Speaker 1: wife there. She went to Belmont and played volleyball there
Speaker 1: right across the street. And volleyball.
Speaker 16: Yeah, volleyball.
Speaker 1: Nice shoutout the volleyball Vanderbilt actually just got a volleyball
Speaker 1: team as well. But yeah, it's it's what we call home.
Speaker 1: That's where we are during the off season. So I
Speaker 1: have a ton of love for Nashville right down the
Speaker 1: road only four hours and this is the closest.
Speaker 16: We've been, you know that. Yeah, with the NFL team.
Speaker 13: So you got to be excited by what Bandy's doing now.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the guys are rolling. The guys are rolling. You
Speaker 1: got a great quarterback in Pavia and coach Lee. I
Speaker 1: really just just believe what he's doing. He's building this
Speaker 1: program the right way, and the guys are inspired out.
Speaker 16: There on the field.
Speaker 12: So when did you move from receiver defensive back. I mean,
Speaker 12: did you just keep growing and filling out and all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actual, I was a skinny guy all
Speaker 1: the way through. I was receiver in safety, and then
Speaker 1: my junior year I played like outside and they even
Speaker 1: had my hand in the dirt for a little bit
Speaker 1: playing defensive end, and then moved back to inside and
Speaker 1: had a very similar story in college. I came in
Speaker 1: recruited as a linebacker and then read schard that first year,
Speaker 1: and then I played two years of free safety, so
Speaker 1: I was the middle post running around trying to make tackles,
Speaker 1: and then I played a hybrid and then came back
Speaker 1: to inside linebacker. So I've played all over the field,
Speaker 1: but for me, I always just wanted to find a
Speaker 1: way to add value wherever I was.
Speaker 16: Just find a way to make a play.
Speaker 12: You're a smart football player. The intelligence factor, I know
Speaker 12: is something that the Bengals were attracted to. You've played
Speaker 12: all these positions and these different defensive scheme addicts and everything.
Speaker 12: What did you study academically? What was your What was
Speaker 12: your major?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a human organizational development major, which is
Speaker 1: basically our business degree. At Bandy, we didn't have an
Speaker 1: undergrad business school there, so that was that was what
Speaker 1: I pursued and did a corporate strategy minor as well,
Speaker 1: So that's definitely the business business route at Bandy Good.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Have you given much thought to a life post football?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I always just want to be prepared
Speaker 1: whenever that time comes, but milking the league out for
Speaker 1: as long as I can, but do a little bit
Speaker 1: of real estate on the side, some business and things
Speaker 1: like that, but just definitely focused on, you know, making
Speaker 1: the most of.
Speaker 13: His career right now as long as you can.
Speaker 12: Man, I'm telling you, that's that's what Paul Brown and
Speaker 12: my first line coach, Paul Brown, Tiger Tiger John said,
Speaker 12: make them take the uniform off back player as long
Speaker 12: as you can. There's no doubt, There's no question about it.
Speaker 12: So you ever thought about coaching, I mean, I think
Speaker 12: you would be like an unbelievable influence on young players,
Speaker 12: a positive influence in terms of your football IQ and
Speaker 12: your overall ability and versatility and everything you've done in
Speaker 12: the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I definitely can see myself coaching in
Speaker 1: the future. On what level that is. I have a
Speaker 1: ton of time to figure that out. And sure you know, definitely,
Speaker 1: right when I finished retire, we plan on taking a
Speaker 1: year off and you know, seeing what our family looks like,
Speaker 1: maybe traveling and pursuing those dreams. But you know, down
Speaker 1: the road, I definitely can see myself coaching.
Speaker 4: You've got two rookies in your room and Demetrius Knight
Speaker 4: and Barrett Carter. How much of a mentor ship role
Speaker 4: are you playing with them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys have been great, a great group of rookies.
Speaker 1: They came in with the right mindset. Obviously the athletic ability,
Speaker 1: but I've been really impressed with the way that they've
Speaker 1: been able to pick up this defense and really take
Speaker 1: accountability for it. They're making all the checks, making like
Speaker 1: just flying around, So it's just fun to see. I
Speaker 1: think one of the biggest things that I appreciate it
Speaker 1: is just having a great linebacker room, Logan Wilson leading
Speaker 1: the way and those young guys really stepping up to
Speaker 1: the to.
Speaker 16: The task at hand.
Speaker 1: And I think we have a great group of character
Speaker 1: guys that want to see each other succeed. And that's
Speaker 1: not the same across the league. You know, there's definitely
Speaker 1: some times where you're like you get a little jealous
Speaker 1: here and there, but I really feel that we're truly
Speaker 1: positive with each other, trying to, you know, instill wisdom
Speaker 1: that you can help them become a better players and
Speaker 1: they can help us as well.
Speaker 16: So it's a it's a circle.
Speaker 12: Another thing I remember as a young football player in
Speaker 12: the National Football League was how these athletes are such freaks.
Speaker 12: I mean, they're freaks of nature. And I'm like, I
Speaker 12: don't know if I can do this. I mean, I
Speaker 12: don't know if I could hang with these guys. These
Speaker 12: guys are just it's amazing. I know, I didn't close
Speaker 12: my eyes. How did he get from there to there?
Speaker 19: Man?
Speaker 1: How did he move so fast?
Speaker 12: And I mean it was like Isaac Curtis are one
Speaker 12: of our wide receivers. This guy ran, you know, like
Speaker 12: a like a nine two or nine three hundred meters
Speaker 12: or whatever the heck it was. I mean, he was
Speaker 12: on last guy that didn't make He was an alternated
Speaker 12: on the Olympic team sprinter, and he would just I'm
Speaker 12: just run by people and catch the back half of
Speaker 12: the football. You had sticky fingered hands, like glue on
Speaker 12: his hands. Just a dominant, a dominant at his position group.
Speaker 12: And then a guy named Mike Reid, a defensive lineman
Speaker 12: out of Penn State. This guy was cat quick. It
Speaker 12: was like, oh my gosh, man, this guy's turning fifty
Speaker 12: five hundred and sixty pounds and he moves like he's
Speaker 12: about one eighty. How the heck did these guys do this?
Speaker 12: What are they eating?
Speaker 1: You know, what are they doing in workouts? Did you?
Speaker 12: Did you have any of that? Like when you were
Speaker 12: a young player in the league. It's like, man, this guy,
Speaker 12: I mean, I know, I've watched him. I knew he
Speaker 12: was good, but I didn't realize he was this good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just coming into the league with Clay Matthews,
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers, obviously, Boktiari was a great left tackle.
Speaker 16: Yeah. We had a ton of.
Speaker 1: Guys out there in Green Bay and just seeing what
Speaker 1: they could do at a high level. I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta step my game up, you know,
Speaker 1: saying so I watched exactly what the bets were doing
Speaker 1: at Mercedes.
Speaker 16: Lewis was a great example.
Speaker 1: He tight end that played in the league for a
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, I literally just watched what he did.
Speaker 1: He was getting in the song and he was cold plunging.
Speaker 1: He was getting extra work with the trainers, and I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, he's been playing in the league
Speaker 1: for a long time, so I'm going to do exactly
Speaker 1: what he does and taking care of yeah, exactly. So
Speaker 1: from there you kind of figure out what your own
Speaker 1: routine looks like, what works for you, And it's kind
Speaker 1: of a trial and everything you know throughout your career.
Speaker 16: You figure out you know, all right.
Speaker 1: I have to have massage, massage on this day so
Speaker 1: I can feel my best for practice. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: a process of figuring out what.
Speaker 16: Works works best for you.
Speaker 4: Linebacker Orrin Burks is our gasty obviously started his NFL
Speaker 4: career with the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 13: That's where the Bengals are headed.
Speaker 4: This Sunday, we'll talk about the return to Lembo Field.
Speaker 4: This is the Bengals Pep Browley Show presented by Just
Speaker 4: Their Chicken from the on the on the Ryan Eatery
Speaker 4: Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Dave lap Book broadcasting from
Speaker 4: the on the Rind Eatery. This afternoon, if the Bengals
Speaker 4: Pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken, our special
Speaker 4: guest in the final hour of our show is Bengals
Speaker 4: linebacker Arren Burke so Orren spent the first four years
Speaker 4: of his NFL career with the team the Bengals are
Speaker 4: playing this week.
Speaker 13: The Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 4: Defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery spent nine years working for
Speaker 4: Green Bay, and I asked Jerry earlier this week about
Speaker 4: returning to lambeau Field.
Speaker 9: You definitely feel the history.
Speaker 14: It's an unbelievable place to work and unbelievable place to
Speaker 14: play a football game. You walk through the tunnels and
Speaker 14: you fill it. It's neat even practicing there. There's an
Speaker 14: air about it. So and what's cool is when you
Speaker 14: pull in and you see now it's a little different
Speaker 14: now because people have tore down those homes and built
Speaker 14: massive places across the street. They're big tailgate places. It's
Speaker 14: just it's a really neat environment. It's probably as close
Speaker 14: to college environment as you'll feel in most places. But yeah,
Speaker 14: neat venue, a lot of history and cool place.
Speaker 4: Did you feel the history when you played for the
Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers?
Speaker 1: Absolutely everything you said is spot on. It's just a
Speaker 1: special place, especially for me to start my career. There
Speaker 1: a historic organization very much like the Bengals, and you
Speaker 1: definitely feel that sense of pride. Even just going to
Speaker 1: the grocery store on a Wednesday, you see everybody in
Speaker 1: Packers gear and that's consistent every single week.
Speaker 16: They just love football there.
Speaker 1: I categorize it as a grown ups college sound almost.
Speaker 1: It's just that kind of feel just going through a
Speaker 1: neighborhood and then opens up in Lambo's right there. So
Speaker 1: this will be my first time coming back to Lambero
Speaker 1: as an opponent. I've played them almost every year, but
Speaker 1: they've always come to us, so this will.
Speaker 13: Be my first time going back, so that's got to
Speaker 13: be special.
Speaker 12: Absolutely, absolutely look forward to it. You know, I guess
Speaker 12: this one's way off the wall. I guess in terms
Speaker 12: of it's not football related. But people love to be
Speaker 12: part of the Green Bay Packer organization in any way,
Speaker 12: shape or form that they can. And some, just like
Speaker 12: a stadium worker, does their job and does their job
Speaker 12: exceptually well, takes great pride in it. They think they're
Speaker 12: part of the Green Bay Packers organization and uh and
Speaker 12: and those those people are there forever did you make
Speaker 12: friendships you strike up any friendships with any of those
Speaker 12: those folks.
Speaker 16: Yeah, there's a there's a lot of people that I'm
Speaker 16: looking forward to seeing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we get back, even from you know, the
Speaker 1: guy that does the headsets, you know on the sideline
Speaker 1: and the equipment guys or a lot of them are
Speaker 1: still there, so it be a lot of familiar faces.
Speaker 1: So looking forward to to catching up with those guys.
Speaker 14: Cool.
Speaker 1: That's one of the cool things about the league is
Speaker 1: when you're in it long enough, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: familiar faces. Everybody bounces around. But like like you said,
Speaker 1: Lambeau Is is just it's just one of those historic
Speaker 1: places that, yeah, everybody just loves to be attached to.
Speaker 4: Green Bay is the smallest city in the US that
Speaker 4: has a major professional sports team. It's a city of
Speaker 4: about one hundred thousand people. Are you instantaneously recognized as
Speaker 4: a Packers player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say you stand out. You stand out a tall,
Speaker 1: black athletic, like a guy you probably probably playing the
Speaker 1: Packers out there. But yeah, it's it's a great town.
Speaker 1: Everybody is very very kind, even to your families while
Speaker 1: you're out in public.
Speaker 16: But I enjoyed my time there.
Speaker 12: When you came to the Cincinnati Bengals, I know you
Speaker 12: would probably you know from a distance seeing guys like
Speaker 12: study watch tape. Back in the day it was film,
Speaker 12: I'd watch film with guys you're watching tape, Jamar, Chase
Speaker 12: T Higgins, Mike Sicky, andre Yosi Vash, these guys that
Speaker 12: can really cause problems for a defensive football team. Are
Speaker 12: you expecting your offense to really go up there and
Speaker 12: make a statement? You know, say to the Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 12: not today. I know it's your home, I know you've
Speaker 12: got a great crowd support, I know you've got a
Speaker 12: fan base that's second to none, But not today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely my expectation. It's interesting, this is you know,
Speaker 1: as long as I've been in the league, this is
Speaker 1: my first time being on the AFC side, so you know,
Speaker 1: I've kind of seen these guys from AFAR, but not
Speaker 1: necessarily every year matchup. It's been kind of like sporadic throughout,
Speaker 1: but going through camp and you know, seeing those guys
Speaker 1: up close to the way that they work their work
Speaker 1: ethic and how they get off releases for tomorrow or
Speaker 1: t like all those guys, It's it's impressive. And I've
Speaker 1: been a lot of ben around a lot of greats
Speaker 1: with Davante Adams, and Brandon and I you a couple
Speaker 1: other guys, you know, but these guys are cream of
Speaker 1: the crop, and it's it's fun to be on the
Speaker 1: opposing side. It challenges you even more as especially as
Speaker 1: a linebacker, just finding ways to get underneath to help
Speaker 1: the dbs out on the backside.
Speaker 16: So it's it's been fun to see them up close.
Speaker 4: You were there when Jordan Love was drafted. He had
Speaker 4: to wait his turn for three years before becoming the
Speaker 4: starting quarterback, but I'm sure you practiced against him. What
Speaker 4: are your impressions of Jordan Love?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's he's grown so much in his
Speaker 1: in his time in the in the league, and I
Speaker 1: just knew he was gonna be ready when the opportunity came,
Speaker 1: just the way he carried himself. It's obviously a unique
Speaker 1: situation to step in two as a first rounder and
Speaker 1: you know you're you're behind one of the greats, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a gold jacket guy in the future.
Speaker 1: But just the way that he handled himself, his intention
Speaker 1: to detail, even on scout team was amazing. He can
Speaker 1: make all the throws, so you just knew that when
Speaker 1: his time was gonna come he was gonna shine. So
Speaker 1: just super proud of him in the way that he
Speaker 1: you know, he's progressed throughout his career, but he's an
Speaker 1: opponent this week, so looking forward to getting after it
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 12: I know when I played, there was like a sense
Speaker 12: of responsibility to the community because the Bengals were such
Speaker 12: a big part of the community. You know, tried to
Speaker 12: put the community in the best light possible, traveling all
Speaker 12: over the different parts of the country, playing games representing
Speaker 12: a city Cincinnati. Same thing with the Reds and they
Speaker 12: had their big run with Pete Rose and Johnny Bench
Speaker 12: and all these all these great players did the green
Speaker 12: Bay Packers, they they have to have a very unique
Speaker 12: relationship with green Bay. They just it has to be
Speaker 12: a bond that's unbelievably special. Do players think about that
Speaker 12: when they're out on the road. You know, we're here
Speaker 12: representing the green Bay Packers and the city of green Bay,
Speaker 12: and we feel so fortunate lucky.
Speaker 16: To do so. Yeah, I definitely feel like that's that's
Speaker 16: part of the equation.
Speaker 1: I think green Bay is very specific and they're the
Speaker 1: only team that's community owned.
Speaker 16: You know, they have a president, not an owner.
Speaker 1: You know it looks a little bit different in terms
Speaker 1: of organization, structure and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely a sense of pride and you know the city
Speaker 1: and you want to represent the people correctly. Like when
Speaker 1: you're out there playing hard, even though you know circumstances
Speaker 1: may not be great, you want to you want to
Speaker 1: put your best foot forward and uh know, there's no
Speaker 1: quit and that's been consistent and every city I've been
Speaker 1: in just for me personally, you just taking pride and
Speaker 1: you know, representing the people of that city.
Speaker 4: Aaron Burks is a Bengal now a key member of
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati defense. We'll talk about how the defense has
Speaker 4: been improving in recent weeks when we come back with
Speaker 4: today's special guest.
Speaker 13: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show.
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Speaker 4: We are live at the on the Ryan Eatery with
Speaker 4: our special guest, Bengals linebacker Oron Burkes. So, last week
Speaker 4: against the Lions, you look at the final score, Detroit
Speaker 4: scored thirty seven points. This might seem strange to say,
Speaker 4: but I felt like the defense actually played pretty well.
Speaker 4: You forced five punts. No team has forced Detroit to
Speaker 4: punt more this year. You got to take away obviously
Speaker 4: a few other scores had to do with short fields.
Speaker 4: You Bengals offensive turnovers, and you're on the field quite
Speaker 4: a bit because there are some three and outs as well.
Speaker 4: How did you feel about the performance last week and
Speaker 4: the way the defense is trended.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think our resilience was on display, you know,
Speaker 1: tough situations and feel wise, but everybody just bought in,
Speaker 1: Like there's a feeling on the sideline that nobody was
Speaker 1: giving up where you know, that's what you want to see.
Speaker 1: You want to see a team that's willing to fight
Speaker 1: for every blade of grass, and I definitely feel like
Speaker 1: that's something that we take pride in and you know,
Speaker 1: every week we'll continue to get better in the defense.
Speaker 1: Is our first year with Al Golden, and everybody's kind
Speaker 1: of you know, getting a feel for, you know, how
Speaker 1: he calls the game, how each other play within the
Speaker 1: scheme and all of that coming together. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're coming into a defense that is going to help
Speaker 1: us make a great run this year. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the chee cheese.
Speaker 12: Al Golden's big believer in the two cheese, turnovers and
Speaker 12: third down. I mean, he wants to get off the field.
Speaker 12: He wants three and outs. He wants as many of
Speaker 12: them as he possibly can get, not let their offense
Speaker 12: get in any kind of rhythm, any kind of timing,
Speaker 12: feel good and about themselves whatsoever. And then he wants
Speaker 12: to take it away. He wants to limit their possessions.
Speaker 12: You can take one less possession that they have. One
Speaker 12: more that you have could be the determining factor in
Speaker 12: the outcome of the football game. What kind of a
Speaker 12: defensive coordinator is Al Golden when you compare him to
Speaker 12: other defensive coordinators you've had during the course of your career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one, he has a linebacker background, so you know, selfishly,
Speaker 1: that's always what I kind of look for in the DC,
Speaker 1: and they kind of can see things from my perspective, Ye,
Speaker 1: you know, make my job a little easier. But I
Speaker 1: think he's very detailed. He expects a lot from us.
Speaker 1: The standard that he said, like you said, turnover is
Speaker 1: a third down and especially the red zone is really
Speaker 1: important to him as well, I feel like you.
Speaker 16: Get what you emphasize.
Speaker 1: So for him, like he's been trying to get us
Speaker 1: to punch the ball out, take the ball away with
Speaker 1: picks and interceptions and any opportunity we can do to
Speaker 1: give offensive back the ball in a great position.
Speaker 16: That's what we're looking to do. And I feel like.
Speaker 1: That's slowly starting to become our identity, you know, over
Speaker 1: these last couple of games, kind of color rhythm and
Speaker 1: hoping to, you know, take it to the next level.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what we're we're looking to do every
Speaker 1: single week.
Speaker 4: Your position coach, Mike Hodges isn't much older than you are.
Speaker 4: Is this the youngest guy that you've played for in
Speaker 4: the NFL?
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, he might be yeah, I think so, yep,
Speaker 1: he's that different.
Speaker 16: Not really. We have a great working relationship.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's very like he's a young guy.
Speaker 1: He's firing, he's passionate about what he does. He's a
Speaker 1: great communicator, and I feel like with the young guys
Speaker 1: in our room, he's been able to coaching him up
Speaker 1: into a fashion where they can go out there and
Speaker 1: play fast and not worry about making mistakes, and you know,
Speaker 1: all the kind of things that come up being a rookie.
Speaker 1: He's kind of helped them step into their own So
Speaker 1: for me that's refreshing, you know, because you know, I
Speaker 1: had different paths, you know, throughout my career. I had
Speaker 1: to you know, figure out things how I wanted to be,
Speaker 1: you know, on the field. But he's really empowering them
Speaker 1: to be the best player that can be on the field.
Speaker 12: You know, you hit on a point, young players, young coaches,
Speaker 12: young players. That's pretty good dynamic, I think, you know,
Speaker 12: I mean I think that, Uh, I mean, there's not
Speaker 12: a player on the roster with double digit years experience.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 12: It's well, now there is yea, yeah Flackel, Yeah, exactly
Speaker 12: forty year old Joe Flackell. But uh, it's it's amazing
Speaker 12: how young the roster is in terms of I mean
Speaker 12: every position group.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 12: It's like, I think, I think that's a plus.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 12: I think, particularly as the season wears on, the grind
Speaker 12: of the season, you know, and I think I think
Speaker 12: guys will recover more quickly with the with the youth.
Speaker 12: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, being an old guy myself, now, it's
Speaker 1: kind of funny how you know, I can't believe you're
Speaker 1: an old guy. It is actually insane to me that, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they call me unk and all that kind of
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I'm thirty years old. It's it's not that serious.
Speaker 1: But I'm thirty years old.
Speaker 12: Great man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I appreciate It's just funny in this
Speaker 1: profession that that's considered old. You know, any job you
Speaker 1: just kind of get right.
Speaker 16: I embrace it. I embrace it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we have a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: young guys with a lot of you know, passion, and
Speaker 1: they're coming from the college where, uh, every week they're
Speaker 1: just like hyped up and ready to go. So you know,
Speaker 1: we're feeding off that energy and I definitely feel like
Speaker 1: that's going to help us a long one.
Speaker 4: All Right, we need to take our final time out.
Speaker 4: When we come back, we will play America's favorite game show, Baby.
Speaker 13: We call it Know Your School?
Speaker 4: Yes, sure, I have questions about Vanderbilt University. You must
Speaker 4: get at least three correct to be a winner. We'll
Speaker 4: put Oran Burkes to the test when we come back.
Speaker 4: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show Live from the
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Speaker 4: want to thank our special guests or in Burke's for
Speaker 4: coming out in a Friday afternoon and spending an hour
Speaker 4: with us.
Speaker 13: We've got a few minutes left on the show.
Speaker 4: That means it is time to play America's favorite game show.
Speaker 4: We call it Know Your School. I have five questions
Speaker 4: about Vanderbilt University. He must get at least three rights
Speaker 4: to be declared a winner. I see that your wife
Speaker 4: looks quite amused. This quiz is coming up. Are you ready?
Speaker 13: Orn Burks? Question number one.
Speaker 4: Name the former US Vice president known for his climate
Speaker 4: change activism who graduated. You are correct, Al gore Go,
Speaker 4: but graduated from Vanderbilt Law School. As the rest of
Speaker 4: the question, you are one for one. Question number two,
Speaker 4: the last consensus all American at Vanderbilt earned that honor
Speaker 4: at linebacker Zach Zach Cunningham is correct.
Speaker 13: I'm not even I can't even get the whole question out.
Speaker 1: All right, We've ever.
Speaker 4: Had three questions left to get at least one right now?
Speaker 4: If you get this one, then you go for the
Speaker 4: perfect score and bragging rights for eternity. Question number three,
Speaker 4: the most famous building on campus didn't answer right away,
Speaker 4: features a large clock tower and is frequently a hub
Speaker 4: of campus activity.
Speaker 1: So it's on alumni Lawn. I'm blanking on the name
Speaker 1: of the actual building, but I can picture it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you're right about alumni lawn. That is correct. Kirkland Hall.
Speaker 13: Kirkland Hall.
Speaker 4: All right, so it's not a perfect score, but you've
Speaker 4: got two left to be a winner. Question number four,
Speaker 4: Oh tarn with the buzzer in the background. Question number four,
Speaker 4: who is Vanderbilt University named for?
Speaker 16: Cornelius Vanderbilt?
Speaker 4: You are correcting, Oh, business magnate Cornelius Vanderbilt, who made
Speaker 4: a one million dollar gift in eighteen seventy three. I
Speaker 4: was worth a lot of money back then. Still pretty
Speaker 4: good back then. Cornelius had some dough. Yeah, he was
Speaker 4: like a railroad guy. He had it going on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: all right. Final question is kind of an easy one.
Speaker 4: I should have come up with a tougher one, but
Speaker 4: I'll ask it anyway. Name the former Vanderbilt quarterback known
Speaker 4: for his big arm and his great hair, who was
Speaker 4: a pro bowler in two thousand and eight and named
Speaker 4: one of the top correct top one hundred Chicago Bears.
Speaker 13: Of all time in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: The correct answer is Jay Cutler, you got four out
Speaker 4: of five.
Speaker 13: No, your school absolutely wrong. Crowd is IM proud.
Speaker 12: I want to give him four and a half. He
Speaker 12: knew everything about that.
Speaker 13: He kind of knew Kirkland Hall just a blank.
Speaker 12: He had haul Kirkland. That was a storm missing ingredient.
Speaker 4: One of the questions I often ask, which is frequently
Speaker 4: a stumper, is what is the name of the main
Speaker 4: library on campus? Do you know the answer to that?
Speaker 16: At Vandy Main Library? I don't know. I didn't spend
Speaker 16: the time there, so I was. I was in Study Hall.
Speaker 16: It was all the way across campus.
Speaker 4: Here's why I didn't ask. It's Central Library.
Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, it doesn't even have a good name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, cral Central Library, central Library.
Speaker 16: Yeah, we had our own study area.
Speaker 4: So well, clearly you did well not only in school
Speaker 4: but at football and now in the NFL. Eight years,
Speaker 4: my man, that's quite an accomplishment. Hopefully you've got several
Speaker 4: more in you lap played ten years in the NFL
Speaker 4: plus two more in the USFL back when it existed. So,
Speaker 4: like we said at the very beginning, play as long
Speaker 4: as you can.
Speaker 12: I played for the President of the United States Donald
Speaker 12: Trump on the New Jersey General. I could see you
Speaker 12: as president. Get in the politics I.
Speaker 1: Would give.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's see, let's start with beating the Packers. Yeah,
Speaker 4: number destroy them, go back to Green Bay and another
Speaker 4: team's uniform and leave Lambeau with a win.
Speaker 16: There we go.
Speaker 4: Hey, we really appreciate you coming out and doing this.
Speaker 4: You have congratulations on a great career to date, including
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl wing a ring rather and we hope
Speaker 4: you're wearing one with the Bengals logo on at the
Speaker 4: end of this year.
Speaker 13: It all right, let's hear it. Let's hear it. That
Speaker 13: is going to just about do it.
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