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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the Bengals pep Rally

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Speaker 3: Show live from me on the Rhine Eatery here in

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Speaker 3: downtown Cincinnati. I'm Dan Hord with Dave Lapham. We are

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Speaker 3: here until six o'clock tonight as we get you set

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Speaker 3: to the Bengals and Green Bay Packers coming up on

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Speaker 3: Sunday at lambeau Field beginning at four twenty five in

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Speaker 3: the afternoon. Linebacker Orren Burks will be our guest later

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Speaker 3: in the show. He is going to be here today

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Speaker 3: from five to six, so if you'd like to get

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Speaker 3: an autographed or get a picture, Arren Burkes will be

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Speaker 3: our special guest the final hour of our three hour show.

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco met with the Cincinnati media today for the

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Speaker 3: first time since Tuesday's trade. We will hear from him momentarily,

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Speaker 3: but up first on the show this afternoon. My conversation

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Speaker 3: with a guy you will hear on the TV broadcast

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Speaker 3: this Sunday.

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Speaker 4: My son Sam has excellent taste in broadcasters and his

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Speaker 4: favorite is not his dad. It's our guest Kevin Harlan,

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Speaker 4: who will be on the mic for CBS this week. Kevin,

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Speaker 4: we got quite the plot twist this week with the

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Speaker 4: Bengals acquisition of Joe Flacco having a Cincinnati assignment this week.

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Speaker 5: What was your reaction?

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Speaker 6: Stunned? But it makes sense. He knows the division. He

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Speaker 6: is a quarterback who has seen everything. He's reached the

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Speaker 6: highest of highs. He's had some difficult moments, but he

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Speaker 6: continues to go on. You know, Dan, I thought at

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Speaker 6: one time that after he had signed the big contract

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Speaker 6: with Baltimore and had won the Super Bowl, and he

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Speaker 6: I know, he's a family man and all that, and

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Speaker 6: I thought, you know, I could see him finding other

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Speaker 6: priorities in life. I may be wrong in this assumption,

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Speaker 6: and while we've interviewed him over the years, I haven't

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Speaker 6: seen him much recently. I think his love for the game,

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Speaker 6: which has always been there. It kind of feels like

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Speaker 6: it's grown the older he's gotten and the more years

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Speaker 6: he's piled up on his resume as being an NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 6: He's good at it. He's a great locker room influence,

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Speaker 6: and if any team was ready to make a move,

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Speaker 6: it was probably yours. Poor Jake was clearly was struggling,

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Speaker 6: and this is maybe shot in the arm and Joe

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Speaker 6: gets back in December that this team needs. I mean,

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Speaker 6: they've got the parts. We all know that. See Lucas

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Speaker 6: Patrick is now in that window where he can begin

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Speaker 6: to practic this and be good to get him back

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Speaker 6: down the road, if not this weekend. But I guess

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Speaker 6: my point is is I was thrilled they made them move.

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Speaker 6: They're not waving the white flag on the season, not

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Speaker 6: that they were thinking of it anyway, but this clearly shows, Hey,

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Speaker 6: we're in it, We've got the parts. Let's let's let's

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Speaker 6: keep let's keep going. We're only two and three. It's

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Speaker 6: not like we're zero and five, right, I mean they're

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Speaker 6: two and three. They're very in a division which has

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Speaker 6: no Lamar for a while. We don't know how long

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Speaker 6: that will be. You never know wh Pittsburgh's going to

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Speaker 6: give you in Cleveland continues to find their way.

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Speaker 7: Why not?

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Speaker 6: I'm it shows aggression and I think every fan would

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Speaker 6: appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Let me take it a step further. Kansas City is

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Speaker 4: two and three and playing the Lions this week. The Texans,

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Speaker 4: with their division titles the last couple of years, or

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Speaker 4: AFC in general appears to be wide open, doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: I agree, Dan, you're on it, and I I would

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Speaker 6: say that that these are one but that's it's a

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Speaker 6: week to week league, and it's clearly a year to

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Speaker 6: year league, and teams you think have got every answer

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Speaker 6: at every position in every way are stumbling a bit.

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Speaker 6: And now we see that how strong front offices and

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Speaker 6: are doing that. Other teams are trying to find their way.

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Speaker 6: But it's not what we thought, right. We didn't figure

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Speaker 6: that in this league you need you need ingenuity clearly,

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Speaker 6: because you've got to handle problems every single day of

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Speaker 6: practice and every week. In this league, you've got to

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Speaker 6: look ahead and you've got to make sure that you're

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Speaker 6: making the right moves, not for just now, but also

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Speaker 6: you know three weeks from now, but know that that

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Speaker 6: you can never give up. And how many times, and

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Speaker 6: you've called the league for decades, how many times have

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Speaker 6: we gotten into the fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen world And

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Speaker 6: now like right there with the win, can get in

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Speaker 6: So I feel like no team is out. But I

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Speaker 6: would backpedal here a bit and say I appreciate what

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Speaker 6: a team like the Bengals have done. Now, Listen, there

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Speaker 6: were a lot of guys out there, probably with different

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Speaker 6: kind of price points on getting adulton or getting you know,

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Speaker 7: If they were so inclined to look.

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Speaker 6: For a punch, a burst, a spark on offense, green

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Speaker 6: Bay did it with Micaeh Parsons. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 6: Flacco's going to have that same kind of kind of movement,

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Speaker 6: but listen, he clearly brings a different dimension to that

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Speaker 6: So I applaud with the Bengals of and I love

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Speaker 6: that in the middle of a season, when you think

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Speaker 6: you've got everything just kind of proportioned the right way,

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Speaker 6: this happens, or Parsons is traded. And here we have

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Speaker 6: those kind of teams, green Bay and Cincinnati meeting this

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Speaker 7: To their roster. It's so intriguing to me in so

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Speaker 5: We're visiting with Kevin Harlan.

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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco's NFL debut is on opening Day two thousand

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Speaker 4: and eight against the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Do you remember saying, look at the big man run. Well,

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Speaker 8: now that you've said it, yes, I do. I do

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Speaker 8: remember that, And you know he is.

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Speaker 6: His career speaks for itself, not in terms of legendary

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Speaker 6: he's led winning teams, he's proven he can play in

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Speaker 6: think in the locker room, and this is again nothing

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Speaker 6: you know, it's never time to bail. It's never time

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Speaker 6: to you know, every man for himself, right, it's they

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Speaker 6: that I applaud and love. But going back to the

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Speaker 6: not with Solomon Wilcotts you know who you guys know

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Speaker 6: well there, but also with rich Gannon, and he went

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Speaker 6: and how he looked at rich thinking, man, if I

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Speaker 6: could only, if I could only have a career like

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Speaker 6: rich Gannon, super Bowl player, MVP in the league, played

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Speaker 6: not that he didn't think he could do it, but

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Speaker 6: he was a young player at the time. And here

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Speaker 6: we have him and and he plays then and here

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Speaker 6: all these years later, here he is like he's been

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Speaker 6: given the keys here to the Ferrari right, Like, I'm

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Speaker 6: feel that engine roar. He's got one side, Jase, He's

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Speaker 6: got Higgins on the other. He's got he's got some

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Speaker 6: real playmakers on that team. It's gonna be fun, very fun.

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Speaker 4: There might be a Ferrari commercial in your future based

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Speaker 4: on that engine.

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Speaker 5: Uh, wrapping up, Let's of.

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Speaker 6: Any other car I should My son is a Ford dealer.

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Speaker 6: I probably should have at Ford anyway. The point is

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Speaker 7: I think at the stage of the year.

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Speaker 4: Let's discuss the Packers. They opened the season with dominant

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Speaker 4: said we might go undefeated this year, and then they

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Speaker 4: lost to Cleveland in Week three. What is your view

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Speaker 6: So I do their preseason game, so I've seen him

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Speaker 6: I thought they were a strong team then and the

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Speaker 6: terms of championships. And here is an organization that has

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Speaker 6: But for whatever reason, they took on a red hot

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Speaker 7: In the league of Cleveland.

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Speaker 6: Please don't open up mouth. You cannot say in this league.

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Speaker 6: It is such an unforgiving league. And these are pros

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Speaker 6: These are prideful men and they come out every day

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Speaker 6: feeling like I'm gonna be better today than I was

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Speaker 6: yesterday and better tomorrow. Than I was today, and they're

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Speaker 6: always looking to improve. And the sky in the eye

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Speaker 6: never lies. The game is on tape, their performance is

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Speaker 6: there these There is no you know, like exhaling in

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Speaker 6: So I knew that when he said that. Oh and

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Speaker 6: pre by post by whatever. I think it's it'll be

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Speaker 6: But now the Bengals have got their own juice, they

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Speaker 6: got their own spark, and I think gonna feel really

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Speaker 6: and I think that that will carry a lot of weight.

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Speaker 6: So in this league, trying to guess, I don't know

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Speaker 6: betting that red level. I don't know how we know

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Speaker 6: everything we can, like you know everything about this game.

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Speaker 6: I know, I look at all the numbers. I don't

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Speaker 4: Field, did the Micah Parsons trade change your view of

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Speaker 6: He's one of the top quarterback pressure guys in the league.

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Speaker 5: We're visiting with Kevin Harlan.

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Speaker 4: For those who don't know, your dad was an executive

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Speaker 6: I've got one right off the bet that I've told

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Speaker 4: One of the things I admire about you is that

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Speaker 6: Well, like you, we have a same I think spirit

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Speaker 6: I read I read a quote by Scully one time,

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Speaker 4: Of have that totally rings true. Leave it to Vin

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Speaker 6: Well, I've had the chance a couple times to do

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Speaker 6: drops and he could see the wind picking up in

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Speaker 6: the dust blowing off the mound. And I thought, Man,

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Speaker 6: I like, those those are moments that just there. If

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Speaker 6: you saw it, it wouldn't resonate, but when you hear it

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Speaker 6: in the theater of your mind, it just builds this

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Speaker 6: great picture. And I thought, that's what I wanted to do,

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Speaker 6: and that's where I got my love of radio, which

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Speaker 6: I do every Monday night. I and there's not a

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Speaker 6: lot of time to describe that kind of stuff, but

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Speaker 6: when there is, and when you can describe it, I

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Speaker 6: think those calls, your call of a Joe Burrow touchdown,

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Speaker 6: those calls if you listen to him driving by yourself

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Speaker 6: an I seventy five or wherever you may be, like

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Speaker 6: they stick in your head, like you can almost picture

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Speaker 6: it more here than you could if you saw it

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Speaker 6: with your own two eyes. So I love the challenge

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Speaker 6: that radio brings, and that that's where my love of

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Speaker 6: doing radio baseball, I think would be and long answer

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Speaker 6: to your question, and I'm sorry, but that's I love

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Speaker 6: those I love those challenges of creating the people's minds,

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Speaker 6: that that vision where they can see at the theater

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Speaker 6: of their mind, what happened, what kind of catch, what

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Speaker 6: kind of ground ball was grabbed, you know, what kind

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Speaker 6: of jump shot was taken?

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Speaker 7: Where it was on the floor.

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Speaker 6: Those things, to me, that's why get into broadcasting, the

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Speaker 6: challenge of doing that the right way.

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Speaker 3: the Bengals and Packers coming up on Sunday at Lambeau Fields,

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Speaker 3: beginning at four to twenty five on Sunday afternoons. Still

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Speaker 3: to come. On today's show, and we're here until six

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Speaker 3: o'clock tonight. You will hear from quarterback Joe Flacco, he

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Speaker 3: met with the Cincinnati media for the first time earlier today.

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Speaker 3: We'll also hear from off into line Marius Mims on

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Speaker 3: the difficult challenge of trying to block Micah Parsons. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it's time for this week's Fun Fact segment, presented Skyline.

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Speaker 4: Chilly time for some fun facts with rookie linebacker Barrett

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Speaker 4: Carter born in Chicago but raised in Swanee, Georgia, near Atlanta. Barrett,

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Speaker 4: I read an interview where you said, all I want

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Speaker 4: to do in life is make my parents proud.

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Speaker 9: Tell us a little bit.

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Speaker 4: About them, what they did or do for a living,

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Speaker 4: and what you admire and respect so much about your folks.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: So my mom, she's an interior designer. Slash do it

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Speaker 10: all mom, slash everything Mom, she really does it all.

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Speaker 10: But she's an interior designer, helps, you know, design people's houses,

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Speaker 10: and you know, people will just hire her and you know,

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Speaker 10: give her money and tell her, you know, just make

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Speaker 10: my house beautiful.

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Speaker 9: And that's what she does.

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Speaker 10: Then my dad, he's a financial advisor, a wealth manager.

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Speaker 10: So he's really my personal financial adviser. So it's good

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Speaker 10: to keep that in house. But what I really love

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Speaker 10: and admire most about them is just how supportive they are.

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Speaker 10: Like with my sister and I, they really just let

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Speaker 10: us figure our own lives out. Like they didn't force

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Speaker 10: us to do anything. They just said, if y'all want

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Speaker 10: to go run through a brick wall, then we're gonna

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Speaker 10: support you, like wholeheartedly, with no no doubts, and just

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Speaker 10: they just let us figure out our own lives out.

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Speaker 10: That's just what I love and admire so much about them,

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Speaker 10: and I hope that I can be half as good

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Speaker 10: as parents as they were to my sister and I.

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Speaker 10: So they're the best older or younger sister older, she's

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Speaker 10: six years older. How old am I twin two? Yeah,

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Speaker 10: she's six years old. I have to do that math

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Speaker 10: every time, but yeah, she's six years older.

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Speaker 4: I do the same with my older sisters. When did

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Speaker 4: it become clear that you stood out among your peers

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Speaker 4: in sports?

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Speaker 11: Hm hmm.

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Speaker 9: I would say my eighth grade year in football.

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Speaker 10: Like I played football just always because it was so fun,

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Speaker 10: and I was also like the biggest one on the field,

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Speaker 10: so I was just I guess I was naturally I

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Speaker 10: don't want to say the best, but I was pretty good.

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Speaker 10: But then my eighth grade year, I was just I

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Speaker 10: was pretty dominant and that after that year, it just

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Speaker 10: really showed me that I can maybe do something with this.

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Speaker 10: And fast forward to my freshman year, I got my

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Speaker 10: first scholarship offer and I was like, wow, like this

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Speaker 10: is really like what I've been working towards every single day,

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Speaker 10: and I was like really becoming a reality and that

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Speaker 10: really just made me work even harder just to not

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Speaker 10: just or to just keep stacking offers and just keep

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Speaker 10: getting more attention from colleges. So I would say, in

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Speaker 10: my eighth grade and then going to my.

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Speaker 4: Freshman year, I know you played offense early in high

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Speaker 4: school and then got switched to linebacker, and reportedly you

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Speaker 4: were devastated by the change. Have you grown to love linebacker?

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Speaker 10: I have, and it was I literally wanted to quit football.

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Speaker 10: But the next day when I got I switched, I

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Speaker 10: was running back receiver. I switched the linebacker, and I

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Speaker 10: was almost quit football. Then the next day I got

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Speaker 10: my first scholarship offer. So I mean, the Lord works

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Speaker 10: in mysterious ways. But I've grown to love this side

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Speaker 10: of the ball so much, and I love how.

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Speaker 9: How hard it is.

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Speaker 10: Like you know, I'm not saying playing offense is easy,

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Speaker 10: but you know, when you ain't playing defense, you have

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Speaker 10: to react to whatever the offense is doing and you

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Speaker 10: don't know what they're running, and all you can do

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Speaker 10: is go off of your preparation, your studying and your

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Speaker 10: film and just you know, just your God given ability.

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Speaker 10: But I love that defense, that challenge and how precise

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Speaker 10: you have to be and how on point you have

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Speaker 10: to be with your keys, and I embrace that challenge.

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Speaker 10: So I wouldn't I wouldn't change my path and I

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Speaker 10: wouldn't want to have it any other way.

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Speaker 9: So I love the side.

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Speaker 4: Of the ball playing linebacker. You attended North Quinn at

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Speaker 4: high school. That's the alma mater of a Bengals fan

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Speaker 4: favorite tight end, CJ Uzama. Did you hear about CJ?

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Speaker 4: From coaches and teachers and have you ever.

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Speaker 9: Met I don't.

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Speaker 10: We've met before because he came in and spoke to us,

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Speaker 10: but like surprisingly, we actually lived in the same neighborhood.

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Speaker 10: We lived in the same neighborhood back in Georgia, but

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Speaker 10: just growing up in Swanee, you always heard that name,

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Speaker 10: and you know, you always wanted to strive to be

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Speaker 10: like those older guys.

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Speaker 9: Who paved the way.

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Speaker 10: And I just have so much respect for him is

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Speaker 10: what he did in the league and how he always

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Speaker 10: came back to his community and just gave his time,

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Speaker 10: his knowledge, and his wisdom back. And you know, I

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Speaker 10: hope that I can be something like that and more

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Speaker 10: just keep giving back what was instilled into me. So

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Speaker 10: CJ will always be a legend in my eyes, a

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Speaker 10: big brother and you know, a great a great man

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Speaker 10: to look up to.

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Speaker 4: You were one of the top linebackers in the country

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Speaker 4: your senior year of high school. You could have gone anywhere.

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Speaker 4: Where did you visit? Who I visited?

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Speaker 10: Clemson obviously, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, and Ohio State.

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Speaker 9: So those were like.

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Speaker 10: My final final five, and I ultimately chose Clemson just

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Speaker 10: because it was the right fit for me. You know,

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Speaker 10: I was looking for a place where I can you know,

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Speaker 10: grow in all areas of life and you know, not

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Speaker 10: just talking about football, but all areas. And you know,

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Speaker 10: I can truly say I walked into Clemson aboard and

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Speaker 10: I came out of man.

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Speaker 9: And that's all that I was looking for. And you know,

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Speaker 9: the football stuff is going to handle itself.

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Speaker 10: But so what I did, what I was able to

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Speaker 10: compensatere was is a blessing and I wouldn't trade those

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Speaker 10: four years for the world. But yeah, those are those

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Speaker 10: are my finalists. And the place that I was visited.

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Speaker 4: It certainly worked out well. You were in some great

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Speaker 4: teams at Clemson. Your team made it to the College

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Speaker 4: Football Playoff last year. What was the best part of

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Speaker 4: your overall college experience.

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Speaker 10: I'll say, I'll give one on the field and won

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Speaker 10: off the field. I'll say this is going to be surprising.

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Speaker 10: My junior year, at worst, we were four and four,

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Speaker 10: Like at one point, we were four and four throughout

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Speaker 10: the year. And if you know anything about Clemson, anything

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Speaker 10: about their fans, they're very passionate about that team, and

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Speaker 10: being four and four in Clemson is not not a

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Speaker 10: sweet place to be. And so I would say finishing

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Speaker 10: off that year and winning the Gator Bowl in the

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Speaker 10: way that we won it, like it was just special.

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Speaker 12: And I cried after that game.

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Speaker 10: I cried after we won the Gator Bowl and it

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Speaker 10: was just such a special win for you know, we

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Speaker 10: were four and four and we rallied and we finished

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Speaker 10: off the season nine and four, and it was just

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Speaker 10: carry so much momentum to the next year. So that's

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Speaker 10: on the field, and then off the field, I'll say

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Speaker 10: graduating just because after my junior year, I was unsure

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Speaker 10: if I was gonna leave or go or come back,

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Speaker 10: and it was a really tough decision weighing on my heart,

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Speaker 10: and I decided to come back and I finished, and

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Speaker 10: I set out that was my goal to graduate be

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Speaker 10: all American, be a team captain.

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Speaker 9: And that's what I did.

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Speaker 10: And so I came back and I graduated, and that

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Speaker 10: was such a big accomplishment for me.

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Speaker 4: Since twenty twenty, college football players have been allowed to

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Speaker 4: wear the number zero. You were the first player to

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Speaker 4: do it at Clemson.

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Speaker 13: Was that a big deal to you?

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Speaker 10: Honestly, I didn't realize it was a big deal until,

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Speaker 10: like I got to Clemson, because I committed to Clemson

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Speaker 10: and I texted coach Shwiny, like what single digit numbers

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Speaker 10: do y'all have available? Because I were number one in

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Speaker 10: high school, so it was just what I was used

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Speaker 10: to and now he said zero's only thing. I was like,

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Speaker 10: all right, let's do it. And then I get to

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Speaker 10: Clemson and like they had there, like you said, there

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Speaker 10: was no zeros before, and then I was the first

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Speaker 10: one and all like that's like all forever being history

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Speaker 10: just because.

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Speaker 9: I'm the first number zero. So it was special.

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Speaker 10: And I hope that you know that's just a legacy

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Speaker 10: at Clemson, just for decent players to wear that number

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Speaker 10: and just keep carrying on that tradition. So I hope

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Speaker 10: that you know that's that's that's gonna become a thing

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Speaker 10: at Clemson.

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Speaker 4: We're chatting with Barrett Carter. You were a fourth round

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Speaker 4: picking this year's draft. Describe the moments leading up to

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Speaker 4: the pick and then the feeling you got when the

656
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Speaker 4: phone rang.

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Speaker 10: The most stressful, nerve wracking time of my whole life,

658
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Speaker 10: because the whole process is so like you don't know anything.

659
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Speaker 10: Like you can you can get all these predictions, you

660
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Speaker 10: can talk to your agents and acts like what are

661
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Speaker 10: they saying whatever, But until you get the phone call,

662
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Speaker 10: you don't know what's going on in that draft room.

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Speaker 10: So I mean, i'd be lying to you if I

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Speaker 10: told you all if I thought I was gonna go

665
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Speaker 10: fourth out. I thought I was gonna go earlier. But

666
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Speaker 10: you know, the lower makes no mistakes. And you know,

667
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Speaker 10: when I got that phone call, it was the best

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Speaker 10: thing in the world. Just all the weight on my

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Speaker 10: shoulders were just completely lifted, and I was like I

670
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Speaker 10: was immediately just like, let's get to work. Like I

671
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Speaker 10: cried so much much Friday night because I didn't get

672
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Speaker 10: my name called, and I was pissed off and I

673
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Speaker 10: was just so much, so many different emotions. But when

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Speaker 10: I saw I think it was a five one three

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Speaker 10: area code's Yeah. So I saw the five one three

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Speaker 10: and I saw Cincinnati. I was like, let's do it, Like,

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Speaker 10: let's get to work, and I was just ready from

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Speaker 10: that moment on and I'm just ready to just leave

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Speaker 10: my leave my marketing in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 9: All right, a few.

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Speaker 4: Wild card topics to wrap things up. It looks like

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Speaker 4: you did a ton of community service when you were

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Speaker 4: at Clemson, particularly with schools.

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Speaker 10: Why I remember, I was, you know, that little kid

685
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Speaker 10: and seeing the older athletes come in and read to

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Speaker 10: us and spend time with us, and I just thought.

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Speaker 9: That was the coolest thing because I was, I was,

688
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Speaker 9: I just admired that.

689
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Speaker 10: I admire that, you know, they took the time out

690
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Speaker 10: of their day when they could have.

691
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Speaker 9: Been doing anything else and they came to spend time

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Speaker 9: with us.

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Speaker 10: And I made a promise to myself, like when I

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Speaker 10: get to that, when I get to that age, I'm

695
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Speaker 10: gonna get back and I'm gonna I'm gonna be that

696
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Speaker 10: figure that those kids look up to and those kids love,

697
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Speaker 10: and you know, whatever it may be, but it's just

698
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Speaker 10: a it's a promise that I made to myself, just

699
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Speaker 10: I'm gonna give back my time. I'm gonna get back

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Speaker 10: to nowe I was instilled into me and I'm gonna

701
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Speaker 10: I'm gonna do that for.

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Speaker 9: Us rest of my life.

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Speaker 4: If you could swap jerseys with any player in NFL history,

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Speaker 4: who are you swapping jerseys with?

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Speaker 9: Probably ray Lewis.

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Speaker 10: Just he's someone that I grew up just admiring and watching,

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Speaker 10: especially when I switched the linebacker, Like a big thing

708
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Speaker 10: for me was the mindset and like the mentality that

709
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Speaker 10: you have to have to play that position.

710
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Speaker 9: He's just epitome of that.

711
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Speaker 10: Like he's he doesn't matter who you are, He's gonna

712
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Speaker 10: go after you and try to try to hunt you.

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Speaker 9: So I would say ray Lewis.

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Speaker 10: And I actually talked to him last last year in

715
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Speaker 10: the summer. Coach Sweeney put me on the phone with him,

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Speaker 10: and it was I was just so starstruck. I didn't

717
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Speaker 10: know what to say. But he's someone that I grew

718
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Speaker 10: up Washington and grew up admiring. So I would say

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Speaker 10: ray Lewis.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 4: Final fun fact for Barrett Carter. This one's kind of deep.

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Speaker 4: If you could meet anyone in history, living or deceased,

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Speaker 4: who would that person be?

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Speaker 10: I would say, I have two, so I have to

725
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Speaker 10: give an athlete and a non athlete, I'll say Lebron

726
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Speaker 10: James because that's just that's my that's my guy. I

727
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Speaker 10: grew up watched, Yeah, Lebron for sure. Lebron James and

728
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Speaker 10: Denzel Washington. He's my favorite actor. I just watched both

729
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Speaker 10: or all three Equalizer movies and that just made me

730
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Speaker 10: love him even more so. Lebron James and Denzel Washington.

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Speaker 10: Denzel is so good, so good, so good, the best.

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Speaker 13: Not that Lebron isn't. But I'm really with you and Denzel.

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Speaker 9: You can't go on with either, so I'll say those two.

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Speaker 13: This has been great. Really appreciate your time. Best of

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Speaker 13: luck the rest of the year.

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Speaker 9: Yes, say thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to the Bengals Pepper Ally Show live

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Speaker 3: from the on the Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Dave Lapham and I are here until six o'clock tonight.

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Speaker 3: We're obviously having some minor technical problems. We'll have that

741
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Speaker 3: ironed out shortly. In any case, if you'd like to

742
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Speaker 3: come out and meet Orrin Burks, the Bengals linebacker, will

743
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Speaker 3: be our special guest. Between five and six, we are

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Speaker 3: headed to Lambeau Field on Sunday. It'll be the first

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Speaker 3: time the Bengals have played there in eight years. The

746
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Speaker 3: last time they faced the Packers in Green Bay, it

747
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: was a great game, but the Packers won it in

748
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Speaker 3: overtime thanks to the heroics of their then quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Jerry Montgomery was on the coaching staff back then for

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Speaker 3: Green Bay. He's a Bengals coach now and I'll talk

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Speaker 3: to him next. This is the Bengals pep Rallley Show

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Speaker 3: presented by Just Fair Chicken on ESPN fifteen thirty. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for tuning in to The Bengals pep Rally Show presented

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Speaker 3: by Just Their Chick In We are at our Friday

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Speaker 3: afternoon home, the on the Rhine Eatery, the food hall

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Speaker 3: above the downtown Kroger at Court and Walnut. We're here

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Speaker 3: until six o'clock tonight. We will be joined in the

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Speaker 3: final hour of the show by Bengals linebacker and SPED

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Speaker 3: team's eighth Orrin Burks. We've got the Bengals and Green

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers coming up on Sunday in Green Bay, beginning

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Speaker 3: at four to twenty five. It's a relatively rare meeting

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Speaker 3: between these two teams they've only played fourteen times over

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Speaker 3: the years. Since Annattie has won seven, the Packers have

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Speaker 3: won seven. The Bengals actually have three wins in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: but only one of those wins was at Lambeau Field.

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Speaker 3: The bengals other two victories on the road against green

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Speaker 3: Bay were in Milwaukee. The Packers used to play a

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Speaker 3: few of their home games every year in Milwaukee. The

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Speaker 3: Bengals have a coach who knows all about green Bay,

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Speaker 3: and I spoke to him, defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery

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Speaker 3: earlier this week.

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Speaker 4: Jerry, you are a Packers assistant coach for nine years.

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Speaker 4: Now you are going back to Lambeau It can't be

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Speaker 4: just another game for you.

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Speaker 13: Is there anything in particular you're looking forward to?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 14: Being there for nine years I have When I say friends,

778
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Speaker 14: they're like family, meaning there's still guys there that I

779
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Speaker 14: work with, but more importantly, our kids grew up there.

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Speaker 14: So we have a cabin in Eagle River, Wisconsin. We

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Speaker 14: will always call that home now regardless of where we

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Speaker 14: live at. So it'll be great to see all of

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Speaker 14: my neighbors and friends. And then you know what's cool

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Speaker 14: is my son is getting his first collegiate start at

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Speaker 14: linebacker against the Badger Saturday night. So I'm gonna try

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Speaker 14: to sneak out and get to that game. So he played,

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Speaker 14: you know, they went to the state championship and he

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Speaker 14: played in Madison. Now he's getting his first start in

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Speaker 14: Madison against Madison. So yeah, so we'll have a lot

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Speaker 14: of friends all week in to see. I've only been

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Speaker 14: to Lambeau once. That's when the Bengals played there eight

792
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Speaker 14: years ago. It's a bucket list type experience for me.

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Speaker 14: When you work there every day, do you feel the

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Speaker 14: history and do you feel like it's a big advantage.

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Speaker 14: You definitely feel the history. It's an unbelievable place to

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Speaker 14: work and unbelievable place to play a football game. You

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Speaker 14: walk through the tunnels and you feel it. It's neat

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Speaker 14: even practicing there. There's an air about it. So and

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Speaker 14: what's cool is when you pull in and you see

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Speaker 14: now it's a little different now because people have tore

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Speaker 14: down those homes and built massive places across the street.

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Speaker 14: They're big tailgate places. But it's just it's a really

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Speaker 14: neat environment. It's probably as close to college environment as

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Speaker 14: you'll feel in most places. But yeah, neat venue, a

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Speaker 14: lot of history and cool place.

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Speaker 4: Green Bay is the smallest market in the US that

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Speaker 4: has a professional sports team. It's a city of about

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Speaker 4: one hundred thousand people. As a Packers player or coach,

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Speaker 4: do you feel like you're in a fish bowl a

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Speaker 4: little bit just because there's such a spotlight on the Packers?

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Speaker 14: I would say, you know, maybe for a player. As

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Speaker 14: a coach, I'd say no. I think people are very welcome,

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Speaker 14: the welcoming, and they treat you as one and especially

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Speaker 14: if you're a normal person, if you you know, there's

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Speaker 14: not too many people that walk around meaning you know,

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Speaker 14: and think that they're better than you. So when you

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Speaker 14: act like that, that's when you stand alone. But for

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Speaker 14: a player, I could see people knowing who you are.

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Speaker 14: But I think those guys, you know, it's Milwaukee's two

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Speaker 14: hours away, Chicago's three hours away, So.

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Speaker 4: We're visiting the Bengals defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery. Let's

822
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Speaker 4: talk defense. Seems a little odd to say, maybe after

823
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Speaker 4: the opponents scored thirty seven points, But I thought the

824
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Speaker 4: defense played pretty well last week against the NFL's number

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Speaker 4: one offense. You forced five punts. Nobody's forced more against Detroit.

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Speaker 4: You got to take away in the game, what was

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Speaker 4: good last Sunday, what wasn't up to your standard.

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Speaker 14: We're taking the right steps each and every week. You know,

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Speaker 14: they were average and I don't know if it was

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Speaker 14: like four point nine or five something or carry. And

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Speaker 14: if we don't give up the one big run, we

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Speaker 14: keep them below two, below three, we give up the

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Speaker 14: one big one.

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 14: So like we're building a mindset and a culture from

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Speaker 14: a run game a standpoint, and you know, you got

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Speaker 14: to earn.

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Speaker 9: The right to pass rush.

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Speaker 14: And so I think those guys, we're doing that and

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Speaker 14: we're getting in them some longer down in distance, more

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Speaker 14: than they've probably had all year.

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Speaker 9: But you know, so it starts there.

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Speaker 14: So you're just building a culture and identity and you know,

844
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Speaker 14: guys are playing hard. No one's quitting. You know, we

845
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Speaker 14: got to eliminate the mistakes that are happening. And it's football.

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Speaker 14: Things are gonna happen. It's just like, you know, you

847
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Speaker 14: can't let them compound. But we're heading in the right direction.

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Speaker 14: We're nowhere near where we're going to be, but you know,

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Speaker 14: hopefully people are seeing the change and the guys are

850
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Speaker 14: working extremely hard.

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Speaker 4: One negative has been opening drives opponents have scored touchdowns

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Speaker 4: in for the first five games. Has there been a

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Speaker 4: common denominator? Is there something that stands out on those

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Speaker 4: opening drives?

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Speaker 9: We talk about that every day.

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Speaker 14: I don't know if it was Cleveland and then Minnesota,

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Speaker 14: but you know, you got penalties that extend drives. One

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00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 14: of those drives, there was three or four third down penalties. Uh,

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Speaker 14: some you know are questionable, but like, if you know,

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Speaker 14: we can eliminate some of those things. We're off the field,

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Speaker 14: you know, but uh, once the guy's settled down, it's

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Speaker 14: it's been you know, pretty good and then then there's

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Speaker 14: a hiccup. Right, But you know, I think if we

864
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Speaker 14: can eliminate the mistakes h and play fast and then

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Speaker 14: tackle and open field, uh, I think we're gonna you know,

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Speaker 14: be better and improve each week.

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Speaker 4: Let's discuss some individuals. Trey Hendrickson had two sacks last week.

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Speaker 4: He's got four in the first five games. It's your

869
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Speaker 4: first year coaching him. What stands out?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's it's important to him, you know, he he

871
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Speaker 14: wants to learn about, you know, the offensive line and

872
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 14: what they're doing. You know, he's he's invested in in

873
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 14: playing the run, and you know, he knows, like, you

874
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Speaker 14: can't get to third down if you can't stop the run.

875
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Speaker 14: And so I think he's really putting an emphasis on

876
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Speaker 14: those details. But like, you know, it's important to him.

877
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Speaker 14: You talk about a guy that comes in, he takes

878
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Speaker 14: care of his body, he watches film, he studies his opponent,

879
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Speaker 14: so he knows, you know, what should work, how the

880
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Speaker 14: guy's gonna set.

881
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Speaker 9: Him, you know. So it's it's it's neat to be around, you.

882
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Speaker 16: Know, a pro.

883
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Speaker 4: Josephosai and Miles Murphy each had a sack last week.

884
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Speaker 4: What are you working on with them at this stage

885
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Speaker 4: of their development?

886
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Speaker 14: Consistency, whether it's in the run game. They both had opportunities,

887
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Speaker 14: you know. You know one of the sacks that Miles got,

888
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 14: you know, Joe created it because he was able to

889
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Speaker 14: penetrate the B gap and then Miles played off of them.

890
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Speaker 14: So it's not just a selfish individual, Hey I'm gonna

891
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Speaker 14: go win. I mean he did a selfish deal by penetrate,

892
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Speaker 14: penetrating the B gap and allow Miles to get a sack. Right, So,

893
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Speaker 14: so all those things are a part of it, but

894
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Speaker 14: just being consistent, whether it's the run game, open field,

895
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Speaker 14: tackling those type of things. Like, I'm very demanding and

896
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Speaker 14: hold those guys to a really high standard. And I

897
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Speaker 14: think sometimes if you feel like the world's falling down

898
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Speaker 14: on them, when in reality it's like, hey, this happened,

899
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Speaker 14: let's clean it up, all right, Uh, you know, but

900
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Speaker 14: don't don't don't you know, let one mistake fall into

901
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Speaker 14: another one because you can't move on, you know. And

902
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Speaker 14: so those are the things that we're trying to work

903
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Speaker 14: to get them past.

904
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Speaker 4: You are demanding and it's fun to watch, and I

905
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: get the sense from everybody that I've talked to that

906
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Speaker 4: they like being pushed. Is that what you're looking for

907
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Speaker 4: from the guys that you have on your D line?

908
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 14: I want I want guys that it's important to being

909
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 14: out there. It's important. Learning the process and learning what

910
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 14: your opponent does is important. If it's not important to

911
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 14: you for those things, then like you don't love the game.

912
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Speaker 14: Like the best guys I've been around, right, and we're

913
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 14: going to Green Bay, Kenny Clark was one of the

914
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Speaker 14: best to ever do it. But it wasn't that he

915
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 14: was like super Ubertalent. He loved football, and like, I

916
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Speaker 14: got a room full of guys that, like you know,

917
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 14: they love it. They're learning learning more bald than they've

918
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 14: ever learned. But like, I expect them to play at

919
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 14: a high level, and I my standard for them is

920
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Speaker 14: super high, but I expect more out of them. It

921
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Speaker 14: can't be how bad do I want it? Because that

922
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Speaker 14: doesn't mean anything. I don't play the game. If you

923
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Speaker 14: guys don't put in the time and effort, it's not

924
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Speaker 14: gonna show up on the field. And I tell them,

925
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Speaker 14: what you put into it, you get out of it.

926
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Speaker 14: So if you take me as being hard and demanding

927
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Speaker 14: on you is a bad thing, all right, you're never

928
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 14: gonna grow, all right, and you're never gonna get to

929
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Speaker 14: where you need to get. A lot of guys understand

930
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Speaker 14: I'm trying to help them, not hurt them. It's not

931
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Speaker 14: belittle on them. It's trying to make them better. It's

932
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Speaker 14: trying to get them to see the game through my

933
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Speaker 14: lens or to see the game easier. And the guys

934
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Speaker 14: that are doing that are making huge strauss.

935
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Speaker 4: BJ Hill is the leading tackler among the guys up front.

936
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Speaker 4: What have you enjoyed about coaching BJ?

937
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Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, he's smart, same thing. He's another guy

938
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Speaker 14: who's done it. He's been productive right in the past,

939
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Speaker 14: and we're teaching him a little bit different ways.

940
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Speaker 9: Of how to do it.

941
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Speaker 14: But you know, he's adapting and he's doing it, and

942
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Speaker 14: he's playing good ball for us, and we need him

943
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Speaker 14: in there and he's been stout in the run and

944
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Speaker 14: we need him to continue to do that.

945
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Speaker 4: You haven't had Shamar since week two. I thought he

946
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Speaker 4: got better every day at training camp from watching practice.

947
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Speaker 4: What did you think of his camp and the first

948
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Speaker 4: two games that he was able.

949
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Speaker 14: To play, Yeah, like a roller coaster, right, like a

950
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Speaker 14: guy that hadn't been here all off season or all

951
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 14: training camp, right, and then and then he showed flashes

952
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 14: of like why he went where he went, and so

953
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 14: it's it's a work in progress, but like when he

954
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 14: gets it, when it all clicks for him, the tools

955
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 14: are there, I see, like a great player in this

956
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Speaker 14: league for a long time.

957
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Speaker 16: Right.

958
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Speaker 9: And so he's going through a process right now through.

959
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Speaker 14: This injury, Like he's how to try to be a

960
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 14: pro with rehab and all that. So, I mean everything

961
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Speaker 14: he's doing right now is new and it's all a process.

962
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Speaker 4: For so final thing for d line coach Jerry Montgomery.

963
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Speaker 4: The big news this week is obviously the acquisition of

964
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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco. You've squared off against him a handful of

965
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Speaker 4: times in the NFL, including Week one this year. What

966
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Speaker 4: do you think Joe Flacco brings to the table.

967
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Speaker 9: The guys played a lot of football.

968
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Speaker 14: I mean, I tell the story I told him when

969
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 14: I saw him last night, Like we were at Northern

970
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 14: IOW when he was at Delaware, he beat us to

971
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Speaker 14: go to the National Championship game. We were the undefeated team.

972
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Speaker 14: We had like nine sack opportunities, but we fill down

973
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 14: his body like six of those, right, so we get

974
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 14: those nine sacks. It's done. But veteran experience. The guy's

975
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Speaker 14: got He's massive, right, he could see it.

976
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Speaker 16: He could make it.

977
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Speaker 14: All the throws and you know, even the picks that

978
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Speaker 14: happened our game. I mean those were tips into flections

979
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Speaker 14: right like the balls were and I think they've had

980
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 14: eleven drops there. I mean, he's gonna have some great weapons,

981
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 14: but he can make the throws. Veteran leadership. The guys

982
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 14: won the Super Bowl, like, so he's done it, and

983
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 14: it'd be nice to see what he can do.

984
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: We're going to get our opportunity soon. Cherry, appreciate your

985
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Speaker 4: time enjoying the trip back to Green Bank.

986
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Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you very much.

987
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: That is Bengals defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery. We just

988
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 3: heard him talking about quarterback Joe Flaco, and we will

989
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Speaker 3: hear from the Bengals new older quarterback when we come back,

990
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: Joe Matt with the Cincinnati Media, so the first time

991
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Speaker 3: today we'll hear his comments. In just a moment, you

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Speaker 4: here in downtown Cincinnati. We're getting getting set for the

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Speaker 4: Bengals and Green Bay Packers coming up on Sunday at

1009
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 4: four to twenty five. We'll see if the Bengals can

1010
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: snap their three game losing streak and get back on

1011
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: the winning track with a new guy at quarterback. It's

1012
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: only the sixth game of the year, this will be

1013
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 4: the bengals third different starting quarterback. Joe Burrow of course,

1014
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: started games one and two. Jake Browning has started games three, four,

1015
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Speaker 4: and five. Unfortunately, Jake did not perform nearly as well

1016
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Speaker 4: as he did two years ago when Joe Burrow hurt

1017
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Speaker 4: his wrists. So the Bengals are trying to stay in

1018
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 4: the hunt and they have made a move picking up

1019
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: forty year o old, eighteen year veteran Joe Flacco, a

1020
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Speaker 4: former Super Bowl MVP, A guy who has made nearly

1021
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Speaker 4: two hundred million dollars in his NFL career, but he

1022
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Speaker 4: still loves playing. He still thinks he can play well.

1023
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Speaker 4: He was the NFL Comeback Player of the Year just

1024
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 4: two years ago when he led the Cleveland Browns to

1025
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and he will try to do something similar

1026
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Speaker 4: for the Bengals, try to keep them in contention until

1027
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Speaker 4: hopefully Joe Burrow comes back in December and leads the

1028
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Speaker 4: Bengals to glory in the postseason.

1029
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Speaker 13: That's what we can hope for in any case.

1030
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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco has practiced now three times since joining the

1031
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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals, including earlier today after a Friday morning practice,

1032
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Speaker 4: he met with the Cincinnati media for the first time.

1033
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Speaker 4: Let's hear a few of the more interesting things that

1034
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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco had to say.

1035
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Speaker 17: Crazy business. You know, you have to be ready for anything.

1036
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Speaker 17: That's that's kind of what it was. Definitely didn't have

1037
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Speaker 17: this on my list of things that were going to happen.

1038
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Speaker 16: That that's this league.

1039
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Speaker 17: And and and I'm a player, uh, I think most

1040
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Speaker 17: players would say the same thing. I mean, you know,

1041
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Speaker 17: I like to play football, and if that's in Cincinnati

1042
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Speaker 17: right now, then you know, I'm all for it. I

1043
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Speaker 17: think in this kind of environment and in this situation particularly,

1044
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Speaker 17: I think honestly I can get in trouble kind of

1045
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 17: think and I know everything. I think the best way

1046
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Speaker 17: for me to do is is just keep simple, keep

1047
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Speaker 17: it simple.

1048
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Speaker 16: You know.

1049
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Speaker 17: I think a lot of the times when you're when

1050
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Speaker 17: you've played a lot of ball, and when you've been

1051
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 17: around a lot of ball, you know, you can you

1052
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 17: can get to the point where you overcomplicate things and

1053
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Speaker 17: you're just you're just making things harder on yourself. Uh So, honestly,

1054
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Speaker 17: I think my experience in this in this regard is

1055
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Speaker 17: is uh going to help me in the sense that

1056
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Speaker 17: I don't have all the answers. Just keep it simple,

1057
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 17: go play football, and you know, and and and and

1058
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Speaker 17: I think that's the best way to kind of make

1059
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Speaker 17: sure that we play consistently, stay ahead of the chaine,

1060
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Speaker 17: and do all those things. The biggest challenge is probably

1061
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Speaker 17: still just the Green Bay Packers, you know, and the

1062
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Speaker 17: team that they have. They're a confident team that plays

1063
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Speaker 17: good football, and you know, I think all the other stuff,

1064
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Speaker 17: you know, you can use it as an excuse, but

1065
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Speaker 17: we still have to go play a football game on

1066
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Speaker 17: Sunday and they're the ones that stand in front of us.

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Speaker 16: Lap.

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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco has been getting a crash course in the

1069
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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals playbook. I don't think Zach Taylor has been

1070
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Speaker 4: getting much sleep this week. They try to feed him

1071
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Speaker 4: as much information as they possibly can. The good news

1072
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Speaker 4: is he just prepped to face the Green Bay Packers,

1073
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Speaker 4: so Joe Flacco can concentrate a little bit less on

1074
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Speaker 4: that than he normally would and devote most of his

1075
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Speaker 4: concentration to try to pick up this offense and be

1076
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Speaker 4: able to play at a solid level on Sunday.

1077
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think I think he feels like he's

1078
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Speaker 12: going to be able to do that. I think he

1079
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Speaker 12: feels like he's going to be able to help the Bengals.

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00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 12: He's been in a legal a while, been with a

1081
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 12: few franchises. They've run multiple offensive philosophies and configurations and

1082
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 12: formations and personnel and motions and change of formations. You know,

1083
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 12: he's been exposed to all of that. I and you

1084
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 12: know he's got all of that to work to pick from,

1085
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 12: to choose from, to work from. I think it's the

1086
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 12: biggest thing that Zach and Dan Pitcher and the rest

1087
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 12: of the coaching staff has to do is to is

1088
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 12: to marry what he feels most comfortable with in the

1089
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 12: Bengals offense and put a game plan together based on that,

1090
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 12: and you know, every every down and distance have an

1091
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 12: answer for it. I like the fact that he said,

1092
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 12: I know I don't have all the answers. Well that,

1093
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 12: you know, some guys have been in the league as

1094
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 12: long as him would think they do have all the answers.

1095
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 12: And he's he seems like a really good guy, a

1096
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 12: guy that his teammates have already gravitated toward. He checks

1097
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 12: his ego at the door. He's not, you know, not

1098
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 12: somebody like here, I am. Hey, it's Joe Flacco, you know,

1099
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 12: bowed down and kiss my feet. You know, It's nothing

1100
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 12: like that. He's just a guy who, like he said,

1101
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 12: loves to play football, and now he has another chance

1102
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 12: to go out and play football with what he thinks

1103
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 12: is a pretty good football team.

1104
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: He started the first four games of the year for Cleveland.

1105
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 4: Then the Browns turned to rookie Dylan Gabriel. Obviously, Cleveland

1106
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 4: is in rebuilding mode. They want to see what they

1107
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 4: have with the two quarterbacks that they drafted. I don't

1108
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: know that we'll see Shador Sanders anytime soon, but they

1109
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 4: certainly want to check out Dylan Gabriel first. Flacco didn't

1110
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 4: play particularly well for the Browns. He acknowledged that earlier today.

1111
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 4: There are circumstances there. You don't have a lot of

1112
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 4: a wide receiver talent in Cleveland. Their offensive line has

1113
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 4: been battered and bruised. They didn't play particularly well in

1114
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 4: front of him. I will say this, We saw him

1115
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 4: on opening Day and he played great against the Bengals.

1116
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 4: He threw for two hundred and ninety yards. If not

1117
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 4: for several drops, including two that became interceptions, the Bengals

1118
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: probably don't win that game.

1119
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 12: I agree, And I think the coaches looked at that

1120
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 12: tape and said, hey, he's still got a lot of

1121
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 12: gas left in the tank. I mean, this guy can

1122
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 12: still play. He can still throw it with the best

1123
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 12: of them. And that's the thing. He's always had a

1124
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 12: Howartzer hanging off his right shoulder. You know, the dude

1125
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 12: has a canon. There's no no question about it. And

1126
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 12: it's not like you know all over the place. He's controlled.

1127
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 12: When he throws that football down the football field. He

1128
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 12: can put it in very tight spots. He can hit

1129
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 12: you in the right shoulder, he can hit you in

1130
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 12: the left ep. He can put the ball wherever he

1131
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 12: needs to put it, and it's got ourpms on it,

1132
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,959
Speaker 12: it's got velocity on it comes out of his hand

1133
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 12: very very easily. And the good thing is about him

1134
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 12: And this is what I think you know, got Jake

1135
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 12: in a little bit of trouble. He gets it out

1136
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 12: of his hand quickly.

1137
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 16: Yep.

1138
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 12: I mean he makes reads and right now the ball

1139
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 12: is out and if you're a receiver, you better get

1140
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 12: your head around because that ball could become And so

1141
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 12: I think that's going to be an interesting part of

1142
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 12: practice for the for Joe Flack and his wide receivers

1143
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 12: is make sure that they know that all of them

1144
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 12: didn't play every single snap and the ball could be coming.

1145
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 4: All right, We're gonna take a time out when we

1146
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 4: come back. Why we owe punter Ryan Rico an apology.

1147
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 4: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just

1148
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: Bear Chicken. We are live at the on the Rhyane

1149
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 4: Eatery Orin Burkes will be our guest at five o'clock

1150
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 4: here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the Bengals

1151
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 4: pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken, Live from

1152
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 4: the on the Ryan Eatery, our Friday afternoon home throughout

1153
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 4: the season. We're here until six o'clock tonight, and linebacker

1154
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 4: Orin Burkes number forty two special teams as will be

1155
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 4: joining us in the final hour of the show. Orn

1156
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 4: will be here from five to six, happy to sign autographs,

1157
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 4: happy to take pictures. We look forward to chatting with

1158
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: or and Burks at five o'clock. In last week's game

1159
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 4: against the Lions, Detroit tackled quarterback Jake Browning in the

1160
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 4: end zone for a safety with about two minutes to go,

1161
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 4: and something very confusing happened after that, so confusing that

1162
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 4: we owe punter Ryan Rico an apology.

1163
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 13: Here's what I mean.

1164
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: So it's a free kick now for Cincinnati, and they

1165
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 4: elect to have the punter do it.

1166
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 13: Ryan Rico. No long snap, he just has the ball

1167
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 13: in his right hand.

1168
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: He'll step into it and punt it before reaching the

1169
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 4: twenty yard line.

1170
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 13: Here comes his punt. Oh, oh, my.

1171
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: Bad punt, straight up in the air like he was

1172
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 4: punting in a silo on It's fair.

1173
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 13: Caught at the forty.

1174
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 4: Six a twenty six yard high fly ball by Ryan Rico.

1175
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 13: One forty nine to go and the Lions will have

1176
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 13: it at the Cincinnati forty six. The law was fought

1177
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 13: outside the setup zone.

1178
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: By rule, that's an unsportsman life conduct penalty on the

1179
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: kicking team.

1180
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 12: It'll be the receiving team's ball half the distance from

1181
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 12: the spot of a kick at the ten yard line

1182
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 12: first down.

1183
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 4: Wow, man, that's the most severe penalty I've ever heard.

1184
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 12: God, are you kidding me?

1185
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: All right?

1186
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 13: So, what the heck just happened?

1187
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: I watched the TV coverage of the game after I

1188
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 4: got home. The guys on TV had no idea what happened.

1189
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 4: Now I know what happened. That was an on side

1190
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 4: punt right after the safety. When the Bengals did the

1191
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 4: free kick from the twenty yard line, they were trying

1192
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 4: to punt the ball straight up in the air. So

1193
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 4: that was intentional by Ryan Rico, hoping that the Lions

1194
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 4: would Muffet, maybe have some sort of blocker that's not

1195
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 4: used to catching the football Muffet and the Bengals could recover.

1196
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: An on side punt is legal, but with the dynamic

1197
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: kick off rule that was instituted last year, you have

1198
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: to land it in a certain zone, and Ryan Rico

1199
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 4: didn't quite pull it off. I talked to him about

1200
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 4: the on side punt yesterday.

1201
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 15: You don't see it a whole lot because it can

1202
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 15: only happen after a safety and in those situations, you're

1203
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 15: really just trying to put the other team in a

1204
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:23,479
Speaker 15: difficult spot.

1205
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't practice it as much as they should have.

1206
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: With that, you got to.

1207
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 15: Land it in between the thirty and the forty five

1208
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 15: yard line. They're able to signal fair catch, which can

1209
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 15: make it more or less confusing for them, but really

1210
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 15: you're just trying to give your guys time to basically

1211
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 15: go crowd the returner, hope they're gonna muff it, and

1212
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 15: so yeah, it was basically you just get that thing

1213
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 15: up as high as possible and try and put the

1214
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 15: returner in a difficult position. Unfortunately, it went long and

1215
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 15: so it made it easier on them.

1216
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: It kind of takes the pressure out of that.

1217
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 15: But in those situations, you're like, Okay, what do we

1218
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 15: have and what can we do to make it difficult

1219
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 15: for him?

1220
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 4: It went to the forty six, so you went one

1221
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 4: yard too far.

1222
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 15: Yes, one yard shorter, and it's like, wow, that was perfect. Unfortunately,

1223
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 15: that's how the special teams goes a lot of the time.

1224
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 15: Close just isn't quite good enough.

1225
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,439
Speaker 13: Did you even know that there was such a thing

1226
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 13: as an on side punt?

1227
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 15: Yes, yes, it happened a couple times last year. We've

1228
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 15: watched the film on it several times. It is one

1229
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 15: of those situations that you're like, oh, like, when are

1230
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 15: we ever going to be in there? But I feel

1231
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 15: like Darren has done a great job of talking us

1232
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 15: through it what the goal is, and unfortunately I just

1233
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 15: got to be able to execute it better.

1234
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: So Lap, I'm ticked off at myself that I didn't

1235
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 4: recognize that was an on side punt because you told

1236
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 4: me years ago that Don Shula, as the head coach

1237
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: of the Dolphins, pulled one off against the Bengals in

1238
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 4: your playing Sure.

1239
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 12: Did, and I was a rookie and Don Shula. The

1240
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 12: punt just like a kickoff. Once it travels ten yards,

1241
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 12: it's a free ball anybody's football. But if you touch it,

1242
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 12: if you're the return team and you touch it and

1243
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 12: don't take the possession of it, secure possession of it,

1244
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 12: and the kickoff or punt coverage team balls on. It's

1245
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 12: their ball. It's stair a ball right there. In fact,

1246
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 12: Paul Brown ran one when I was a rookie as well,

1247
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 12: and makes sense that Don Shula would because Don Chula

1248
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 12: played for Paul Brown with the Cleveland Browns in his

1249
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 12: playing days. So these these are two coaches that know

1250
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 12: every single period, punctuation mark, word written in the rule

1251
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 12: book and can recite it. Probably can recite it in

1252
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 12: their sleep. But it's it's interesting. I mean, there's something

1253
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 12: that that Darren Simmons covers. I know he covers on

1254
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 12: side kicks. I know that for a fact. He's told me,

1255
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 12: his players are told me. So it's not like the

1256
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 12: Bengals were ill prepared for.

1257
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:04,959
Speaker 13: It, right.

1258
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 4: What's different now from when you played is that back

1259
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 4: then there was a total element of surprise. I remember

1260
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 4: you telling me, Yeah, there were guys on the sideline saying,

1261
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 4: what just happened? You can do that, Whereas now, because

1262
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 4: of the dynamic kickoff rule, whenever you do an on

1263
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 4: side kick, you have to tell the opponent otherwise their

1264
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 4: coverage team would be way down the field. So the

1265
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 4: Lions knew an onside kick was coming. You still have

1266
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: the element of surprise.

1267
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 13: In how you do it.

1268
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 4: They probably not accustomed to seeing a punch try to

1269
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 4: kick it a mile up in the air, but they

1270
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 4: do know that some sort of onside kick is coming, right.

1271
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 12: There's a trick element to it, you know, some kind

1272
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 12: of element or surprise when it happens when it's not declared.

1273
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 12: I've seen players think that the played the kickoff, just

1274
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 12: miss the punt, just missed the ball, whift on the ball,

1275
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 12: you know, either a total whiff or a partial whiff

1276
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 12: or whatever, and just caught a little piece of it. So, yeah,

1277
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 12: it's special teams one third of the game. Darren Simms

1278
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 12: will tell you that it's one third of the football game.

1279
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 12: It determines field position for points scored, yards in your favor,

1280
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 12: help your defense, potential turnovers as a result, maybe turnovers

1281
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 12: during the play, and special teams. It's a very important

1282
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 12: part of the game. There's no doubt.

1283
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 4: I love when obscure things happened. There was that game

1284
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 4: last year where just before the half a guy made

1285
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 4: a fair catch and they were able to take advantage

1286
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 4: of the rule where you can attempt the field goal

1287
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 4: with nobody up front to try to block it under

1288
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 4: those circumstances, and it worked. But these are the types

1289
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 4: of things that you might see once every twenty years. Yeah,

1290
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 4: like an onside punt.

1291
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 12: Absolutely, you know, and Paul Brown, we did that when

1292
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 12: he was head coach. Signal fair kit right for the half.

1293
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 12: Last play of that first half, signal fair catch went

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Speaker 12: for like a fifty eight yard field goal, as I recall,

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Speaker 12: something like that, fifty seven to fifty eight yards and

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Speaker 12: just missed it, barely missed it, but made a heck

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Speaker 12: of a run at it.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 4: It's a Friday, that means Friday Night Stripes presented by

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Speaker 4: Catch the Bengals in your community. You can learn more

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Speaker 4: at Bengals dot com. We're gonna take a time out.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, Bengals players react to what the front

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Speaker 4: office did this week.

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Speaker 13: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show. We are live

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Speaker 13: at the on the Rhine Eatery.

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Speaker 4: Orenburgs will join us in about thirty minutes here on

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Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen to thirty lab in the Ballman Back on

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Speaker 4: the Bengals pep Rally Show, live from the on the

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Speaker 4: Rhine Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. Come out and join us.

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Speaker 4: We're here until six. You can meet angles linebacker Orrin Burkes.

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Speaker 4: He'll be here in about twenty five minutes or so

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Speaker 4: for the final hour of our show.

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Speaker 13: Let's get to the news of the day.

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Speaker 4: It is the Kettering Health Injury Report, brought to you

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Speaker 4: by the Kettering Health Network. A few guys to keep

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Speaker 4: an eye on on Sunday in Green Bay. So Jamar

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Speaker 4: Chase was at practice this morning. He was there for

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Speaker 4: team meetings, but he wasn't feeling well, so they sent

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Speaker 4: him home early. He's listed his questionable. I think he's

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Speaker 4: going to play. I'm not too concerned about that one happen.

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Speaker 13: What do you think?

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Speaker 12: I agree with you, Dan, I think he's definitely going

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Speaker 12: to play. You know, I think hopefully fluids, rest, rest, Yeah,

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Speaker 12: getting a good, a really good night's sleep, and in

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Speaker 12: not overdoing it the rest of the week physically because

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Speaker 12: he is a worker now, he's a worker bee and

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Speaker 12: he'll be in the weight room. He'll he'll be doing

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Speaker 12: all kinds of things, treadmill. I mean, he's just always

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Speaker 12: looking to improve his body. So take it easy, rest up,

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Speaker 12: and get ready to kick the packers' asses.

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Speaker 4: Make it butts please right Shamar Stuart did some practicing

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Speaker 4: this week, but he's listed as doubtful for Sunday. I

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Speaker 4: don't think we're going to see Schamar back yet with

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Speaker 4: that ankle injury. Hopefully next Thursday at home against the

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers, Shamar Stuart will be in action. There's a

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Speaker 4: concern at left guard. Dylan Fairchild is dealing with a

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Speaker 4: sore knee. He didn't practice on Wednesday, he didn't practice

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Speaker 4: on Thursday. He was limited at practice today, listed is

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Speaker 4: questionable for Sunday. That one seems very iffy to me.

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Speaker 4: If he can't play, You've got a couple of options. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: I'm drawing a blank now, and who started at right

1344
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Speaker 4: guard at the beginning of the year the or no,

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Speaker 4: hold on a second, let me get my chart here.

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Speaker 4: I hate to blank out on you, all, right, Dal Reisner? Okay,

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Speaker 4: Don Reisner started at right guard up in the second

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Speaker 4: and third games. He's played plenty of left guard in

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Speaker 4: the past, so Reisner could kick over the left guard.

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Speaker 4: Lucas Patrick also returned to practice this week right He's

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Speaker 4: been a full participant in practice. He's not back on

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Speaker 4: the active roster yet, so they'd have to put him

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Speaker 4: on the roster they'd have to make a roster move

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Speaker 4: in order for him to play.

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Speaker 13: That could happen.

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Speaker 4: But if fair Child can't go, You've got two good

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Speaker 4: veteran options in and Patrick, you.

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Speaker 12: Do, you have two good veteran options Patrick. You know,

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Speaker 12: even though he's practicing, the fact that he, you know,

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Speaker 12: is still hasn't been activated as such is a little

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Speaker 12: bit of a concern, but not much. I mean, I

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Speaker 12: think if he's if he's practicing and going full go

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Speaker 12: at practice, he should be okay. He should be ready

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Speaker 12: to go.

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Speaker 1: Is another.

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Speaker 12: He's an interesting story. I mean, he's played a lot

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Speaker 12: of football. He's been in multiple offenses, all different kinds

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Speaker 12: of experiences, different teammates, working with different centers and tackles,

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01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 12: knowing what that's like, getting up to speed where you're

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Speaker 12: on the same page with your techniques and the fundamentals

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Speaker 12: and everything that goes with it. But it doesn't happen overnight.

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Speaker 12: And he has not had many snaps with any offensive

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Speaker 12: lineman whatsoever on the Cincinnati Bengals roster. So right guard's

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Speaker 12: a problem. Right guard's a question mark. You know, it's

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Speaker 12: like an uncertainty in the offensive line and in the

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Speaker 12: offensive position group or personnel. So the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 12: are circling it. There's no doubt defensive line, coach, coordinator, players, detackles,

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Speaker 12: they're all gonna want to take their turn, take a

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Speaker 12: shot at whoever's playing right guard. It's going to be

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Speaker 12: interesting how they hold up.

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Speaker 4: Jalen River is at right guard, and then either Fairchild

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Speaker 4: if he can come back, or Reisner or Patrick at left.

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Speaker 12: Guard right correct and you know it's going to be

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Speaker 12: when you have three you don't have one. You know,

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Speaker 12: that's the thing. If you're getting three guys ready to play,

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Speaker 12: and there's there's nothing wrong with it, I don't. I

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Speaker 12: don't think there's you know, the Bengals should receive the

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Speaker 12: merits and they're grading for preparation for the court during

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Speaker 12: the course of the week, for having multiple guys ready

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Speaker 12: to play the left guard position, and you know, guard

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Speaker 12: and center and tackle position overall. I think I think

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Speaker 12: you should have as many as many players as you

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Speaker 12: possibly can be able to play more than one position,

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Speaker 12: because you know, sometimes injury bug really crops up during

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Speaker 12: the course of the game and you're you guys are

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Speaker 12: going down like flies and you need everything you got

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Speaker 12: and they have to be able to do multiple things,

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Speaker 12: but it's going to be interesting to see how Riisener

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Speaker 12: does it right guard and whoever the left guard is.

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Speaker 12: Just don't be a negative, you know, just just play

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Speaker 12: solid football. Just when Ted Carris is passing a you know,

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Speaker 12: a a stunting defensive lineman over there towards. You be

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Speaker 12: there where you're when you're supposed to be there, how

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Speaker 12: you're supposed to be there, doing what you're supposed to

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Speaker 12: be when you're there. So that's gonna be interesting, and

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Speaker 12: I'm sure they'll be ready.

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Speaker 4: So the Bengals made a dramatic move on Tuesday with

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Speaker 4: the acquisition a veteran quarterback Joe Flacco, and then announced

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Speaker 4: on Wednesday he will be the starter this Sunday against

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Speaker 4: the Packers.

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Speaker 13: Why did they do it? Why did they do it?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's pretty clear Jake Browning was really struggling.

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Speaker 4: If you heard him in his postgame news conference on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: it sound like sounded like his confidence was shot. It's

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Speaker 4: understandable that the team would think, well, man, we know

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Speaker 4: he can play, but we can't really afford to let

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Speaker 4: him break out of a slump. We've got to do

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Speaker 4: something ye to try to stay in the race because

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Speaker 4: the AFC is a jumbled mess. The Ravens are one

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Speaker 4: in four, the Chiefs are two and three. Pittsburgh's three

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Speaker 4: and one, but the jury's still out on just how

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Speaker 4: good Pittsburgh is. The Bengals are trying to stay in

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Speaker 4: the hunt with the hopes that Joe Burrow is back

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Speaker 4: in December, and Joe fully intends to return if the

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Speaker 4: games are meaningful. So the front office is acted. The

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Speaker 4: players appreciate it. Here's tight end.

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Speaker 18: Mike KASICKI credit to them for understanding, you know, the

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Speaker 18: talent in this locker room, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, just giving us.

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Speaker 18: The uh the opportunity to go out there and you know,

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Speaker 18: be really uh competitive here and see where we can

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Speaker 18: kind of go in these next I would say four

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Speaker 18: or five weeks leading into that bye week, and uh,

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Speaker 18: you know, I honestly have an opportunity here to play

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Speaker 18: two games in five days or whatever the heck it is.

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Speaker 18: So that's a great opportunity to you know, when you're

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Speaker 18: in a slump, we'll go win two in five days

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Speaker 18: and that'll that'll that'll help turn it around.

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Speaker 12: So great opportunity for us and a lot of excitement.

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Speaker 1: In the locker room, all right.

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Speaker 4: So I think Mike Kasicki set it up pretty well there.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals have a very tough game coming up on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Green Bay is an ex excellent team.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: They've got a big home field advantage at Lambeau. Even

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Speaker 4: if Joe Flacco plays great, it might not be enough

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01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 4: to beat the Packers. So let's just say that the

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Speaker 4: Bengals don't win on Sunday. After that, three straight home

1450
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Speaker 4: games Thursday night game against Pittsburgh. Thursday home games are

1451
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 4: a big advantage, yep. A home game against the Jets,

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Speaker 4: the only team that hasn't won a game home game

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Speaker 4: against the Bears. The Bears are getting better, but they're

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Speaker 4: not good yet.

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Speaker 16: Right.

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Speaker 4: You could lose on Sunday, win those three games and

1457
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Speaker 4: be over five hundred five and four going into your

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Speaker 4: bye week.

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Speaker 12: And more than halfway halfway point of the season, basically

1460
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Speaker 12: five and four steal in the thick of all of it.

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Speaker 12: And I think that's what they're they're thinking, at least that,

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Speaker 12: you know, I fully expect them. I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 12: gonna go up there and beat Green Bay. They're a

1464
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Speaker 12: heavy underdog, you know, green Bay should be favored, and

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Speaker 12: they are. And like you said, Dan, the biggest reason

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Speaker 12: lambeau Field Man. That place is tough. It's a tough

1467
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Speaker 12: place to play. Played there two or three times, two

1468
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Speaker 12: times anywhere that I can recall right off the top

1469
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Speaker 12: of my head, And I mean, couldn't hear myself, think,

1470
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Speaker 12: could not hear any cadence that was being said by

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Speaker 12: the quarterback, couldn't hear the center and turn around to

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Speaker 12: look at me and calling sig calling, making calls to

1473
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 12: set up blocking patterns. Couldn't hear that, couldn't hear anything,

1474
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Speaker 12: And that is unsettling. That gives you a feeling of discomfort,

1475
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 12: you know, and next thing you know, you're not You're

1476
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 12: unsure and uncertainty and and and when you're unsure and uncertain,

1477
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 12: it makes cowards of all of us, you know. So

1478
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 12: you got to go out there and be brave, breaking

1479
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 12: the huddle, get to the lone of scrimmage, feel good

1480
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 12: about what you're doing, how you're doing it, play at

1481
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 12: a at a level of intensity that you know you

1482
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 12: can be proud of. That crowd, though, is going to

1483
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 12: try to make it difficult. I mean they just look

1484
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 12: right at you. And laugh at you and get louder.

1485
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 12: It's a very very difficult place to play in terms

1486
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 12: of I mean they you know, those meters a measure

1487
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 12: crowd noise. They try to peg that meter every single snap.

1488
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 12: I mean, they're crazy up there.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Packers fans, when my son was born, just

1490
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 4: for the fun of it, I decided to put him

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Speaker 4: on the Packers season ticket weight list.

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Speaker 12: Can he's still waiting.

1493
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 4: We were living in Boston at the time. Who knows

1494
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 4: where he would be when the age came that he'd

1495
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 4: be able to buy his tickets. I just thought, what

1496
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 4: the heck, who knows, Maybe he'll be living in Chicago

1497
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 4: by then. Sure, so I put him on the wait list.

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01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 4: Sam is now nineteen years old. Every year you get

1499
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 4: a postcard that updates you where you are on the list.

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Speaker 4: We got it maybe three or four weeks ago. Nineteen

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Speaker 4: years into his life, he is eighty eight thousand, one

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty four people away.

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Speaker 12: That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Last year the list dropped by one thousand and seven

1505
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 4: and seventy three. So at that pace, another fifty years

1506
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 4: from now, approximately when he's almost seventy years old, he'll

1507
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 4: be able to get tickets. Historically it takes about fifty

1508
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 4: years to get your get your person spot on the list.

1509
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: Man.

1510
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 12: So Sam, he'll be about my age when he's able

1511
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 12: to try to secure and procure.

1512
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 4: Unless there's some good years between now and then where

1513
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 4: a bunch of tickets open up.

1514
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'll tell you it's that that place is, you know,

1515
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 12: it's it's a unique place to play, There's no doubt

1516
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 12: about it. And when you're a Packer fan, you're a

1517
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 12: Packer fan for life. Like the like those lists just

1518
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 12: that you recited, just confirmed Dan, I mean it's crazy.

1519
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 12: My in laws by marriage, Dave's mother and father in

1520
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 12: law live up there, and many it's Green Bay Packer

1521
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 12: tickets are impossib That's like, you know, that's the number

1522
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 12: one item on everybody's wish list, gift list for Christmas.

1523
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 12: You know, it's like, hey, Santa Claus is going to

1524
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 12: be bringing some season tickets down the chimney. It's it's

1525
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 12: a great place to play. I know, guys have met

1526
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 12: guys that have played for the Green Bay Packers, And

1527
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 12: when you're a player in Green Bay, you don't pay

1528
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 12: for a thing, man, I mean, you pay for nothing, housing,

1529
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 12: cars or you know, get given to you meals. There's

1530
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 12: not a bar tab that ever makes its way to

1531
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 12: a Green Bay Packer. That place is great to play

1532
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 12: with all the fringies man.

1533
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: All right.

1534
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 4: Coming up next, one of the number one things the

1535
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 4: Bengals are going to have to do on Sunday to

1536
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 4: have a shot at beating the Packers is handling number one.

1537
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 4: Micah Parsons A Marius Mims talks about that challenge when

1538
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 4: we come back.

1539
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 13: This is the Bengals pep Rowley Shell live.

1540
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 4: From the on the Ride here in downtown Cincinnati on

1541
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty. Welcome back to the Bengals pep Rally

1542
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 4: Show presented by Just Fair Chicken, live from the on

1543
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,839
Speaker 4: the Ryan Eatery the Food Haul above the downtown Kroger.

1544
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 4: Come out and join us. We're here every Friday between

1545
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 4: three and six. Actually, I should amend that some weeks

1546
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 4: it's going to be two thirty to five thirty based

1547
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 4: on other programming. We'll tell you when that's the case,

1548
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 4: but most of the time it's three to six, and

1549
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 4: we typically have a Bengals player join us in the

1550
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 4: final hour of the show. That will be the case today.

1551
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 4: We'll be joined by linebacker Orren Burks in just a

1552
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 4: few minutes. The Bengals take on the Packers at lambeau

1553
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 4: Field this Sunday. This game got tougher for Cincinnati in

1554
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 4: late August when the Packers made a trade. They sent

1555
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 4: three time Pro bowler Kenny Clark to the Dallas Cowboys

1556
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 4: along with two first round draft picks to get Micah Parsons.

1557
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 4: For good reason, He's been a pro for four years.

1558
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 4: He's been a Pro Bowler all four He's certainly one

1559
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 4: of the best defensive players in the league, and the

1560
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 4: Packers showed how they felt about him by not only

1561
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 4: making that trade, but by giving him a four year,

1562
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty eight million dollar extension forty seven

1563
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 4: million dollars a year for a defensive player. That is

1564
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 4: a record for a non quarterback.

1565
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 1: He got paid, boy, sure did.

1566
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 4: Bengals faced him last year when he was still with

1567
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys. Cincinnati won the game. A Marius Mims

1568
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 4: was the primary guy that had to block him. Michael

1569
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 4: Parsons didn't have a sack and didn't have a tackle

1570
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 4: in that game. I've talked to a Marius Mims this

1571
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,799
Speaker 4: week so about about trying to handle miche Micah Parsons again.

1572
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, I think Michael's the best d N

1573
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 19: in the NFL other than Miles Garrett. If you hasn't,

1574
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 19: he's just the guys who I haven't played against. The

1575
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 19: don't be a challenge at always, especially on the road.

1576
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 19: It's gonna be a game worse about me again, honestly,

1577
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 19: just just doing what coaches telling me in practice, and

1578
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 19: you know, how can you know, trying to mutralize them

1579
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 19: as much as possible and knowing you know, he's gonna

1580
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 19: make his fair share of plays, you know. I mean,

1581
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 19: it's gonna happen with a guy like that. But really,

1582
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 19: like I said, my mind set is relative to just

1583
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 19: you know, go out there and play the game football.

1584
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 19: Do I can play, continue to get better, and you know,

1585
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 19: if I let woman, like not let one Mian's stake

1586
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 19: or one you know, one small minor, you know, step

1587
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 19: in that game and turn.

1588
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: Into like the whole game.

1589
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 19: So, like I said, boy against a great player, not

1590
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 19: one of the best players on defense, and ever, I mean,

1591
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 19: I think he's a good Like I said, you know

1592
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 19: he's a good player, but I know he's a good player.

1593
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 19: But I said, I'm ready for the challenge. You know,

1594
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 19: like I said, last year, he was with another team

1595
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 19: last year who played in Dallas, and this year is

1596
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 19: gonna be in on Green Bay, so it's gonna be fun.

1597
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 4: Do you gain confidence from having played him and having

1598
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 4: held out?

1599
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 19: I feel like, you know, in this league, gotta have

1600
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 19: accomplish against everybody because if not, you will you will

1601
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 19: get killed in this league. Like I said, there's too

1602
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 19: many good guys. If you're not confident in yourself first,

1603
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 19: then I feel like, you know it's gonna You're gonna

1604
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 19: be in the world of trouble is billing and os

1605
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 19: with you. So just going out there playing stress free,

1606
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 19: just going out there knowing the you know you're not

1607
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 19: gonna play a perfect game, but knowing like I said,

1608
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 19: if you beat that guy across from you more time

1609
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 19: than he bahu, you know what I'm saying, you have

1610
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 19: a good chance to win, especially with that guy right there.

1611
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 19: If you can neutralize him, you know we got a

1612
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 19: good chance.

1613
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 4: Lapp, tell me what the week was like in your

1614
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 4: playing days when you knew you were going to be

1615
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 4: blocking me and Joe Green or Cray Culp, one of

1616
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 4: the elite players.

1617
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 13: Of your era.

1618
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's a good question, Dan, I remember vividly, not

1619
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 12: a whole lot of sleep, you know. I mean, you

1620
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 12: think about it all the time, every waking moment. You're

1621
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 12: thinking about how am I going to counter his best move?

1622
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 12: You watch, you study film back then, tape today, and

1623
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 12: you study it and study it and study it some

1624
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 12: more and try to find tells. Tells are something that

1625
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 12: they do. Maybe they change their stance, maybe you know,

1626
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 12: they shift their weight, whatever it might be, to give

1627
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 12: you an idea, a little bit of a an edge

1628
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 12: as to what they're thinking about doing and how they're

1629
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 12: going to do it. So those guys are a challenge,

1630
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 12: I mean, a supreme it's the ultimate challenge. It's the

1631
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 12: best that the NFL has to offer the best of

1632
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 12: the best. But if you perform well, all of a sudden,

1633
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 12: there be around the league is Oh wow, man, who's

1634
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 12: seventy one over there right tackle for the Bengals. Yeah,

1635
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 12: I've heard about him, mimp. That dude's a player, man.

1636
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 12: Look at look at how he handled u Michaeh. Parsons

1637
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 12: on the edge. Not a whole lot of people can

1638
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 12: handle Michael Parsons like that. Toss him around and and

1639
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 12: uh and keep him from you know, wrecking a football

1640
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 12: game against your offensive football team. So that's how you

1641
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 12: have to look at it. You have to look at

1642
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:39,719
Speaker 12: it as not like, oh boy, what's gonna what's gonna

1643
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 12: happen to me? I mean, how many times are you

1644
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 12: gonna beat me? You don't want to go in there

1645
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 12: thinking negatively. You want to go in there just the

1646
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 12: opposite thinking positively. It's my time to shine. I get

1647
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 12: a chance to go block Michaeh. Parsons, I'm gonna show

1648
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,480
Speaker 12: the league I'm a football player.

1649
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,799
Speaker 4: All right, Well, take a time out. Coming up next,

1650
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco explains why he is still playing at the

1651
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 4: age of forty. This is the Bengals pep Rally Show

1652
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 4: presented by Just Beared Chicken live from the on the

1653
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 4: Ryan Eatery on ESPN fifteen thirty. On first and goal

1654
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 4: from the five, Flacco looking to pass his throw caught

1655
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 4: in the middle of the end zone by Cedric Tilman

1656
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 4: for a Cleveland go ahead touchdown.

1657
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 12: Joe Flacco gives the old fish pump have to throwing

1658
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 12: that pass in the middle of the field, realizing that

1659
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 12: his receiver caught it for the touchdown, good route run

1660
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 12: by Cedric Tilman. Flaco had his eyes on him the

1661
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 12: whole way and delivered a strike.

1662
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 4: That was Back in Week one, Joe Flacco threw for

1663
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 4: two hundred and ninety yards in that game, again Cincinnati. Fortunately,

1664
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 4: the Bengals came away with the win, thanks in part

1665
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 4: to some poor kicking by the Browns a rookie kicker

1666
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 4: Andre Schmidt. But in any case, wasn't Joe Flacco's fault.

1667
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 4: He played well and now he'll look to play well

1668
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 4: in a Bengals uniform this Sunday and beyond until the

1669
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 4: return of Joe Burrow. Joe Flacco a former Super Bowl MVP.

1670
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 4: This is his eighteenth NFL season. He's made something like

1671
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty four million dollars in the NFL.

1672
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 4: He's the father of five. He's a terrific guy. From

1673
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 4: all accounts. Everybody that knows him seems to love him.

1674
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 4: I asked him earlier today, all right, with all of

1675
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 4: those accolades and the money and the young family, et cetera,

1676
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 4: why are you still doing it?

1677
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 13: Here's what he had to say.

1678
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 17: I just feel like I have like a lot to

1679
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 17: offer to a football team. I feel like I've put

1680
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 17: in a lot of work my whole life to get

1681
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 17: to this point in just terms of playing in the

1682
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 17: NFL in general, and I have a I hopefully will

1683
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 17: have a long life when I'm done. But you only

1684
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 17: get a chance to play in the NFL once, and

1685
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 17: I feel like I've worked really hard, like I said,

1686
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 17: to be a guy that gets to play in the NFL,

1687
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 17: and I don't want to take that for granted.

1688
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 16: I still like I can play the.

1689
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 17: Game at a high level, and I want to be

1690
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 17: able to look at myself in the mirror when I'm

1691
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 17: fifty years old and be able to say that, you know,

1692
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 17: I gave it everything I had.

1693
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 16: Lap.

1694
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,759
Speaker 4: When I hear those words from Joe Flacco, I'm reminded

1695
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 4: of something you told me about your first offensive line coach,

1696
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 4: Tiger Johnson, who told you when you were just starting out,

1697
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 4: do this as long as you can.

1698
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, that was his advice. So you know, it's like,

1699
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 12: do this as long as you can. You're never going

1700
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 12: to find anything like it. It's the most unique way

1701
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 12: to make a living that there is out there. When

1702
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 12: you're a professional athlete, you're blessed and you're very fortunate

1703
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 12: and very lucky. You understand that and take full advantage

1704
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 12: of it. And I think Joe Flacco doesn't want to

1705
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 12: retire too soon and then be watching games say I

1706
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 12: can still do that. I can do that better than him.

1707
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 12: I can throw the ball better than he's throwing it

1708
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 12: Right now. I shouldn't have retired. I still have football

1709
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 12: left in me. You want to be in when you're

1710
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 12: done playing. You want to be an old, washed up,

1711
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 12: retired football player that has nothing left to offer from

1712
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 12: a playing standpoint. Maybe get into coaching, whatever your post

1713
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 12: playing career. But he's not there yet. I think he

1714
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 12: realizes he has miles to go before he sleeps.

1715
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 4: It looked like his career might be over two years ago.

1716
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 4: He was on the couch for much of the season,

1717
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 4: and then the Browns were desperate in late November they

1718
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 4: reached out to him. He wound up starting a few

1719
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 4: weeks later and had this incredible renaissance where he threw

1720
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 4: for three hundred plus yards in four straight games, led

1721
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 4: them to the playoffs, won the Comeback Player of the

1722
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 4: Year award. I think that reinforced his love of the

1723
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 4: game and his desire to keep on going until nobody

1724
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 4: will give me a deal.

1725
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 12: I agree, Dan, because he realized five straight games three

1726
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 12: hundred yards or more passing, I can still play, and

1727
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 12: everybody in the league now knows that I can still play.

1728
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 12: So I mean, there's going to be a lot of

1729
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 12: people out there that would like to have my services,

1730
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 12: you know, and I'm going to be paid well for

1731
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 12: services rendered. I still you know, I made a lot

1732
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 12: of money for my family. I've been very fortunate in

1733
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 12: that regard, but there's nothing wrong with making more.

1734
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: You know.

1735
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 12: I might as well go out there and do what

1736
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 12: I can do better than most people can do until

1737
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 12: I can't do it anymore. That's what it boils down to.

1738
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 12: You know, he wasn't done. He wasn't done playing. He

1739
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 12: wasn't done enjoying the locker room with his teammates. You know,

1740
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 12: there's something to be said for that. Like Tiger also said, Man,

1741
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 12: this is unique. Boys, You're never going to experience anything

1742
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 12: like this. You're never gonna experience relationships like this that

1743
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 12: you have with your teammates outside of the game of football.

1744
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 12: Enjoy it while you can.

1745
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 4: Man, when he takes the field on Sunday, he will

1746
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 4: become the first forty year old to ever play for

1747
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 4: the Senseinnati Bengals, the oldest player in franchise history before

1748
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 4: Joe Flacco, long snapper Clark Harris, who is still in

1749
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 4: a Bengals uniform at the age of thirty eight.

1750
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 13: Two hours in the.

1751
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 4: Books, one hour to go Orrin Burks will be here momentarily.

1752
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 4: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just

1753
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 4: Baar Chicken, live from the on the Rhine Eatery on

1754
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 4: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 20: This is fifteen thirty w c came on Snatty, the

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01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 20: fifty thousand orange and black home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 20: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:38,439
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1759
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: on the Bengals Radio Network.

1760
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 16: Paycre.

1761
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1762
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1763
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Speaker 2: Best Fans. Kettering Health, Official healthcare provider of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1764
01:27:55,120 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of t

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Speaker 2: us Cincinnati Bengals.

1766
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 4: It is a Friday afternoon here in the Queens City.

1767
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 4: The work week is just about done. The happy hour

1768
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 4: is underway, and we've got a lot of football to

1769
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 4: look forward to. High school football tonight, bearcat football tomorrow

1770
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 4: at noon at home against UCF, and of course the

1771
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 4: Bengals heading to Green Bay to take on the Packers

1772
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 4: this Sunday at four twenty five. You're listening to the

1773
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 4: Bengals pep Rowley Show presented by Just Bear Chicken. We

1774
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 4: are live as we are every Friday afternoon here at

1775
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 4: the on the Rhine Eatery, that is the food hall

1776
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 4: above the downtown Kroger. Every week we have a player

1777
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 4: join us in the final hour, and we are delighted

1778
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 4: to welcome our guest today. He's in his eighth NFL season,

1779
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 4: his first year with the Cincinnati Bengals. He's wearing a

1780
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,759
Speaker 4: wedding ring today, but he could be wearing a Super

1781
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 4: Bowl ring because he won one last year with the

1782
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles. Let's welcome linebacker and special teams Ace Orrin Berks.

1783
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 16: Thank you guys for having me, happy to be here.

1784
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 4: Thank you for showing tell us about that Super Bowl ring.

1785
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 4: Did that baby look when you opened up the little

1786
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 4: box and got your first look at that ring?

1787
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1788
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: Well, the ring ceremony was the weekend before we started camp,

1789
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 1: and I had the ability to go to Philadelphia and

1790
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: you know, experience that with my teammates for one last time,

1791
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: and you open the box and just taken away by

1792
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 1: how big big the ring is, how the details that

1793
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 1: they put into it, and you know, just the journey

1794
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 1: to get to that point.

1795
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 16: So it was definitely a special moment.

1796
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 12: Yeah, the journey is special. And I never I played

1797
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 12: in the Super Bowl as a player, but never won it.

1798
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 12: But and I remember how crestfallen I was, how bitterly

1799
01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 12: disappointed I was in the locker room, and just an

1800
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 12: unbelievable feeling just kind of swarms you, you know, all

1801
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 12: over you. But I do remember that same season winning

1802
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 12: the AOC championship game and going in that locker room

1803
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 12: and how celebratory it was, and it's like, man, it

1804
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 12: was an unbelievable place to be. The adrenaline rush that

1805
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 12: you got was even more than you got when you

1806
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 12: were playing in the football game. What's it like to

1807
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 12: win a Super Bowl? Tell me what the adrenaline rush

1808
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 12: is like when you win the darn thing.

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01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're definitely on a high. Just you know, all

1810
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: the emotions and you know kind of comes to you

1811
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: in stages. You know, you're kind of in shock right

1812
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: after it happens and you don't know what to what

1813
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: to expect, of what to think. But I feel like

1814
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: it didn't really hit me until the parade. We get

1815
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,879
Speaker 1: back to Philadelphia and the streets are filled with Eagles

1816
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: fans and you know, just just really get to embrace

1817
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: the moment and just be where your feet are and

1818
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 1: that that was just really really cool experience in it

1819
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: my wife as well on the parade tour. So I

1820
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 1: hope we can bring that here to Cincinnati.

1821
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 13: Amen.

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01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 16: That's up.

1823
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: We're all hoping for no doubt.

1824
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 4: I mentioned it's year eight for you in the NFL

1825
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 4: or and in the previous seven you've been on playoff

1826
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,799
Speaker 4: teams six times. Wow, you have been on winning teams

1827
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 4: year after year after year. Do you feel blessed that

1828
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 4: that's been the case.

1829
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 16: Yeah, definitely.

1830
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 1: I have a very fortunate path, you know, starting with

1831
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 1: Green Bay, going to San Francisco, and then finishing with

1832
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: with the with the Eagles last year missing the playoffs.

1833
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:06,799
Speaker 1: Only my rookie year have I think five NFC championship games,

1834
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls in a row. Like it's It's unheard

1835
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 1: of in anybody's career. So I don't take anything for granted.

1836
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,719
Speaker 1: But you know, in all those situations at the locker

1837
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 1: room is the key having a great group of guys

1838
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 1: that get what it takes, you know, to get to

1839
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 1: that level and you're going to experience some anniversary like

1840
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: we are right now, and you know, it's how you

1841
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 1: bounce back from that.

1842
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 12: So your quarterback is forty years old, That to me

1843
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 12: is mind boggling, and I'm like, you got to be

1844
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 12: kidding me. He can still come and play in the

1845
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 12: National Football League at a high level, not just play,

1846
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 12: but play in a dominant type level of performance at

1847
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 12: the age of forty years old. I mean, there's no

1848
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 12: quit in Joe Flacco. What what is he? When when

1849
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 12: the players saw him for the first time, you know,

1850
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 12: in the locker room walking around or whatever and getting

1851
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 12: ready to go out and perform, what was going for

1852
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,839
Speaker 12: everybody's mind. It was like, yeah, man, check out Joe Flacco.

1853
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 1: He looks pretty good, doesn't he.

1854
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1855
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: I think immediately he just brings a sense of poise

1856
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: and experience. You know, he's seen probably every look you

1857
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: could think of in the game of football. Yeah, just

1858
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 1: throw into a lot of great receivers in this time.

1859
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 1: But again, just his poise, the way he handles the huddle. Huddle,

1860
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 1: even just his first week with a new offense, it

1861
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 1: seems like he's been in this offense for a while.

1862
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: From from a deepest perspective, so excited to see what

1863
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: he does this week.

1864
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 4: I saw the news break on social media. Jamar Chase

1865
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 4: said yesterday that t Higgins called him with the news.

1866
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,600
Speaker 4: Jamar said he thought it was BS, but then he

1867
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 4: double checked and it turned out to be true. How

1868
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 4: did you learn that Joe Flacco is now your teammate?

1869
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actually in the in the locker room

1870
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: getting some recovery in on the off day, and you know,

1871
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 1: reading reading through social media, and I see it pop up,

1872
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a couple other guys in the

1873
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: locker room at the same time, so all of our

1874
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 1: heads pop up at the same time. We're like, WHOA,

1875
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 1: what the heck is going on? So it's just one

1876
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: of those moments. I feel like for fans, they think

1877
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 1: we get the inside scoop beforehand, but a lot of

1878
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: times we're finding out at the same time as the

1879
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: fans do. So uh, Yeah, just welcome him with open arms,

1880
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: and you know he's gonna step in and do his job.

1881
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 12: That's that's the thing I think that's impressive about him

1882
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 12: step in and be a good teammate and do his job.

1883
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 12: Guys that I've talked to, both coaches and players with

1884
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 12: the Bengals and other teams, say that this guy is

1885
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 12: ego lists. You know, it's not all about Joe Flacco.

1886
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 12: You know, he's not. He's not looking at teammates and saying,

1887
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 12: you know, you're beneath me. You know, I've played in

1888
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 12: this league forever, longer than you're ever gonna think about playing,

1889
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 12: and I put up numbers that you're never gonna even

1890
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 12: think about matching. But it's it doesn't phase him the

1891
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 12: way that you think it might. What type of guy

1892
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 12: is Joe Flacco in the locker room?

1893
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had a few encounters with him, but every

1894
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 1: one of them has been, you know, a great delight

1895
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 1: just really getting to know him as a person. And

1896
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: the way that he leads as a quarterback is gonna

1897
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 1: be different from somebody else, you know, But like I said,

1898
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: the experience that he has, he definitely, you know, carries

1899
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: that in his professionalism and his poise and excited to

1900
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 1: see how it turns out for this weekend in Green Bay.

1901
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 4: He played against him before. Anything stand out from those

1902
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 4: previous meetings.

1903
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 16: Yeah, he can.

1904
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: He can definitely deal the ball and get the ball

1905
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: out when he needs to. He is on time with

1906
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 1: all of his reads. You know, we just played the

1907
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Browns not too long ago, so you know, matching up

1908
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 1: against this guy now he's in our locker room is

1909
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: always a crazy thing in the league where you know,

1910
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 1: at any point in time and he could be in

1911
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: your locker room, you can get traded, you know, this

1912
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: crazy stuff that could happen. But excited to have him

1913
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: on board.

1914
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 12: He's playing against Green Bay Packers his second time.

1915
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 16: Yeah, this year that he's.

1916
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 12: Played three weeks, three weeks that he's played against the

1917
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 12: Green Bay Packers, So he knows what he's going to

1918
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 12: be looking at. He knows what the Green Bay Packers

1919
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 12: have defensive and they have a good, solid defensive football

1920
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 12: team everywhere. They've got sound NFL players. But you know,

1921
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 12: you're in a shitch situation where this this game is important.

1922
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 12: Then you have three in a row at home that

1923
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 12: you can really make some Hey, how important is this

1924
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 12: stretch and does Joe Joe flaccoll obviously realize realizes how

1925
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 12: important it is. And I'm sure he's excited about leading

1926
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 12: the football team.

1927
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1928
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 1: For him, it's just getting into rhythm. You know, in

1929
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Speaker 1: this new offense. He could almost write this scout of report.

1930
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Speaker 1: You know, like you said, he played him a couple

1931
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:24,719
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, so he's very familiar with their personnel.

1932
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: But it's it's a familiar with our defense, you know.

1933
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: I know he's putting the time in extra meeting with

1934
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,639
Speaker 1: the coaches and the players to be at his put

1935
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Speaker 1: his best foot forward. So it's our job, you know,

1936
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Speaker 1: as guys that have been here, that that have established

1937
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: culture with the Bengals, and really everybody's got to elevate

1938
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 1: their game, special teams, defense, everybody has to do their

1939
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: part to you know, uplift his his his debut as

1940
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Speaker 1: a Bengal.

1941
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Speaker 4: Our special guest today here in the Bengals pep Rally

1942
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 4: Show is linebacker Oran Burks. We are live at the

1943
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 4: on the Ryan Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. When we

1944
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 4: come back, well, listen back to one of the key

1945
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,760
Speaker 4: plays that Oron made in the playoffs last year. Helped

1946
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles win a Super Bowl title. This is

1947
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Speaker 4: the Bengals pep Rally Show on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1948
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Speaker 13: Welcome back to the Bengals pep.

1949
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Speaker 4: Rally Show, presented by just Baar chick In. We appreciate

1950
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Speaker 4: the Bengals fans are with us here this afternoon. We're

1951
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 4: getting you set for the Bengals and Packers coming up

1952
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 4: at lambeau Field this Sunday at four to twenty five.

1953
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 4: The Bengals looking to even the record at three and

1954
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 4: three before coming home for three home games in a

1955
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Speaker 4: row against the Steelers, Jets, and Chicago Bears. Our special

1956
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Speaker 4: guest this afternoon is Orrin Burks. As we mentioned earlier,

1957
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Speaker 4: he captured a Super Bowl ring excuse me last year

1958
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 4: as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. To win that

1959
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, Philadelphia had to capture four postseason games. The

1960
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 4: first playoff game was against the Green Bay Packers, and

1961
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Speaker 4: we're gonna listen back to how that playoff game began.

1962
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Speaker 11: Keyshawn Nixon is deep and we're underway another game in

1963
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Speaker 11: the National Football League postseason. Nixon will take it on

1964
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 11: the far side. Outside of the numbers to the twenty

1965
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 11: on a diagonal twenty five and he is smashed and

1966
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 11: he lost the football. It's inside the thirty and recovered

1967
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 11: by the Eagles. Or and Burks knocked it loose.

1968
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 12: Boy, what a hit that was.

1969
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Speaker 13: Or In Burkes just laid an unbelievable shot on Keyshawn

1970
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 13: Nixon to knock that ball out.

1971
01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 1: Holy count.

1972
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 4: That's quite a way to begin the playoffs by forcing

1973
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 4: a fumble on the opening kickoff that your team recovers

1974
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 4: to begin the road to winning a Super Bowl.

1975
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Speaker 13: Describe that play.

1976
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's special.

1977
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:50,600
Speaker 1: You know, before the game, I told myself that I

1978
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 1: wanted to have a game, a play that was going

1979
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 1: to change the game. And you know, what better way

1980
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,600
Speaker 1: to set the tone for the playoffs and than the

1981
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 1: force funball and the kickoff.

1982
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Speaker 16: So obviously a lot of a lot of emotions right

1983
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:02,200
Speaker 16: after that.

1984
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Speaker 1: I probably blacked out, didn't know what happened afterwards, but uh,

1985
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, really just wanted to it force like the

1986
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: physicality that we wanted to have the whole throughout the

1987
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 1: whole playoffs. So that really set the tone.

1988
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 12: That play like that, in the physicality, like you talking about,

1989
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 12: that's contagious to the rest of your teammates.

1990
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 16: But when you.

1991
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 12: Force the turnover on special teams on the first, very

1992
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 12: first time the ball is in play, the balls kicked

1993
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 12: return man's returning the football, Arren Burks knocks it out

1994
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 12: of his possession, puts a big hit on him. You

1995
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 12: changed the game. I mean, the whole dynamic changes now

1996
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:45,160
Speaker 12: all of a sudden, they're they're behind the possession. You

1997
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 12: guys have an extra possession. They're never able to catch

1998
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:51,759
Speaker 12: up unless you have a miserable, miserable day of turnovers yourself.

1999
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 12: Did any of that go through your mind or was

2000
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 12: it just pure elation of man I hit the crap.

2001
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 16: Out of him.

2002
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I mean honestly, right away I was like,

2003
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: I hope I don't get a flag off of this,

2004
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 1: which was you know, it would have been worth it

2005
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 1: in the and then but uh, you know, I've just

2006
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 1: made a great wrap tackle and our offense goes and

2007
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: scores right away, you know, again just to start ahead.

2008
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 1: And then at the end end of the next half

2009
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 1: we start with the ball against. Yeah, that's that's a big,

2010
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: big piece intended.

2011
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Speaker 12: You get the ball to start the second half, and

2012
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 12: you've basically got it to start the game as well

2013
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:24,839
Speaker 12: because of your play. It's unreal.

2014
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Speaker 16: Yeah.

2015
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Speaker 4: So you were a key special teamer for Philadelphia last

2016
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 4: year and a valuable part of the linebacker rotation as well.

2017
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 4: But then in the postseason, na Kobe Dean gets hurt,

2018
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,439
Speaker 4: you move into the starting lineup. You start the last

2019
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,799
Speaker 4: three playoff games, including the Super Bowl. You played great,

2020
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:46,679
Speaker 4: also forced to fumble in the NFC Championship game against Washington.

2021
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 4: So what did it mean to you to be thrust

2022
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 4: into that role when it mattered most and deliver?

2023
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2024
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: For me, always prepare like I'm a starter. You know,

2025
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 1: never know when your opportunity is gonna come. And you know,

2026
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 1: throughout my career, I've been a still harder special teams

2027
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: ace and you know, I kind of up and down.

2028
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: And for me, I just have so much joy in

2029
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 1: the process of learning about myself.

2030
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Speaker 16: What is going to prepare me to be the best.

2031
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 1: When when I get on the field, and uh, just

2032
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: really enhancing my room, the people around me. That's always been,

2033
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: you know, something I take great pride in, uh. And

2034
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, to have the opportunity to play in the postseason.

2035
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 1: I have a ton of respect for Nakobe and the

2036
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 1: way that he led the team this past year.

2037
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Speaker 16: Uh.

2038
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,719
Speaker 1: And you for me, a lot of it was doing

2039
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 1: him him him justice, you know, for him to go out.

2040
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 16: It is really tough to have a great year.

2041
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:30,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

2042
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 16: But I wanted to put my best foot forward for.

2043
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 1: The team, uh, to add value where I could, and uh,

2044
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 1: you know it just led to even more of a

2045
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 1: special you know, super Bowl like having that that role,

2046
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, going throughout postseason. Uh and knowing that it

2047
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: was mostly special teams, you know, throughout the whole year.

2048
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 16: But I knew I was gonna be ready when my

2049
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:47,680
Speaker 16: opportunity came up.

2050
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 12: Heck of a heck of a thing to be on

2051
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 12: a super Bowl winning team. Man, that that's some memory

2052
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 12: that will be there forever for sure. Let's go back

2053
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 12: to maybe even high school and maybe even earlier than that.

2054
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 12: What coach was it that taught you the fundamentals the

2055
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,760
Speaker 12: techniques necessary to be able to compete in the game

2056
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 12: of football? I mean, who was that that I saw?

2057
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 1: Oh?

2058
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 12: This guy, man, he's a specialmen.

2059
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 1: This kid's gonna be able to play.

2060
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 12: I have to do everything I can to just teach

2061
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 12: him as much as I know about the game.

2062
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 16: Who is the guy?

2063
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple I was actually a late, late

2064
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 1: starter to football. I played basketball, baseball, soccer, and I

2065
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: didn't really play football until my freshman year of high school.

2066
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 1: And that was really just to hang out with my friends.

2067
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 1: You know, going into you know, high school, you want

2068
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,480
Speaker 1: to gather as many friends as you can, and sure.

2069
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 16: A lot of them were playing football.

2070
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 1: So I loved being competitive in athletics and just naturally

2071
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 1: thought i'd be a wide receiver. I was a tall

2072
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:50,600
Speaker 1: guy and played safety as well, and I you know,

2073
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 1: moved all over the ball on defense throughout my time

2074
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: in high school. But one coach in particular, I would

2075
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 1: say Jerry Pinoni. He was my coach basically my junior

2076
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 1: year on and he just really instilled just hard work,

2077
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 1: running to the ball, like all the fundamentals that you

2078
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 1: need in terms of mentality that you know, really kind

2079
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 1: of helped me become the player I am today. And

2080
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of when my football career took off. Was

2081
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: about my junior year. We went on the States run,

2082
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:18,599
Speaker 1: ended up losing the state championship game, but that's when

2083
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: I really fell in love with the game of football,

2084
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 1: just the guys around me. Kwamena Van Dyke was one

2085
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 1: of my best friends that he was a linebacker with

2086
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 1: me as well, and he just taught me a lot

2087
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: about the physicality and the mindset that you have to have.

2088
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 1: And a number of guys that I'm still friends with today.

2089
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: I have a group text with guys that I went

2090
01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: to problem with. Really, it's just special to have those

2091
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,479
Speaker 1: people that you grew up with have bonded with and

2092
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,439
Speaker 1: they share very similar values. We're all married, have kids

2093
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 1: and stuff now, so it's kind of cool to share

2094
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: those stories. But push Bnoni. He instilled a great deal

2095
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: that hard work and work ethic and all of us.

2096
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,799
Speaker 1: Is she still with us, Yes, he's still with us. Yeah. Yeah,

2097
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 1: well he's got to be proud of you. Man.

2098
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,560
Speaker 16: Absolutely, she reached out here. Yeah.

2099
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we keep in contact probably once year, at least

2100
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 1: once a year or so. But yeah, he's doing a

2101
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 1: great jobs. Cool.

2102
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, he played college football at Vanderbilt. How heavily were

2103
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 4: you recruited and why did you choose Vandy?

2104
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2105
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 1: I ended up with I think it was like fifteen offers,

2106
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 1: but ultimately got it down between UVA and Vanderbilt's very

2107
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 1: similar schools.

2108
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 16: Yeah, academics was very important.

2109
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 1: My sister she played softball and ended up at Stanford

2110
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 1: for so for our family, you know, academics was something

2111
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 1: very important being a student athlete. So ultimately take the

2112
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 1: leap of faith coming out of Nashville. Didn't really know

2113
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,759
Speaker 1: anybody down there, but fell in love with the campus,

2114
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 1: the culture, and the guys there, and that was the

2115
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:39,640
Speaker 1: best decision that could have made for me. Met my

2116
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 1: wife there. She went to Belmont and played volleyball there

2117
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: right across the street. And volleyball.

2118
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:44,919
Speaker 16: Yeah, volleyball.

2119
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 1: Nice shoutout the volleyball Vanderbilt actually just got a volleyball

2120
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 1: team as well. But yeah, it's it's what we call home.

2121
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: That's where we are during the off season. So I

2122
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: have a ton of love for Nashville right down the

2123
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 1: road only four hours and this is the closest.

2124
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 16: We've been, you know that. Yeah, with the NFL team.

2125
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,679
Speaker 13: So you got to be excited by what Bandy's doing now.

2126
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the guys are rolling. The guys are rolling. You

2127
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 1: got a great quarterback in Pavia and coach Lee. I

2128
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 1: really just just believe what he's doing. He's building this

2129
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 1: program the right way, and the guys are inspired out.

2130
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 16: There on the field.

2131
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 12: So when did you move from receiver defensive back. I mean,

2132
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,680
Speaker 12: did you just keep growing and filling out and all that.

2133
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was actual, I was a skinny guy all

2134
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 1: the way through. I was receiver in safety, and then

2135
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 1: my junior year I played like outside and they even

2136
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 1: had my hand in the dirt for a little bit

2137
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 1: playing defensive end, and then moved back to inside and

2138
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,680
Speaker 1: had a very similar story in college. I came in

2139
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 1: recruited as a linebacker and then read schard that first year,

2140
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 1: and then I played two years of free safety, so

2141
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,879
Speaker 1: I was the middle post running around trying to make tackles,

2142
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: and then I played a hybrid and then came back

2143
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 1: to inside linebacker. So I've played all over the field,

2144
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 1: but for me, I always just wanted to find a

2145
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 1: way to add value wherever I was.

2146
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Speaker 16: Just find a way to make a play.

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01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,519
Speaker 12: You're a smart football player. The intelligence factor, I know

2148
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 12: is something that the Bengals were attracted to. You've played

2149
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 12: all these positions and these different defensive scheme addicts and everything.

2150
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 12: What did you study academically? What was your What was

2151
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 12: your major?

2152
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a human organizational development major, which is

2153
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: basically our business degree. At Bandy, we didn't have an

2154
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: undergrad business school there, so that was that was what

2155
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 1: I pursued and did a corporate strategy minor as well,

2156
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:24,679
Speaker 1: So that's definitely the business business route at Bandy Good.

2157
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 16: Yeah.

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01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,240
Speaker 13: Have you given much thought to a life post football?

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01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 6: Uh?

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01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I always just want to be prepared

2162
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 1: whenever that time comes, but milking the league out for

2163
01:45:35,360 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: as long as I can, but do a little bit

2164
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: of real estate on the side, some business and things

2165
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: like that, but just definitely focused on, you know, making

2166
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: the most of.

2167
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 13: His career right now as long as you can.

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Speaker 12: Man, I'm telling you, that's that's what Paul Brown and

2169
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 12: my first line coach, Paul Brown, Tiger Tiger John said,

2170
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 12: make them take the uniform off back player as long

2171
01:45:55,200 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 12: as you can. There's no doubt, There's no question about it.

2172
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 12: So you ever thought about coaching, I mean, I think

2173
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 12: you would be like an unbelievable influence on young players,

2174
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 12: a positive influence in terms of your football IQ and

2175
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 12: your overall ability and versatility and everything you've done in

2176
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 12: the game.

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01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I definitely can see myself coaching in

2178
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 1: the future. On what level that is. I have a

2179
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 1: ton of time to figure that out. And sure you know, definitely,

2180
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,600
Speaker 1: right when I finished retire, we plan on taking a

2181
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: year off and you know, seeing what our family looks like,

2182
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: maybe traveling and pursuing those dreams. But you know, down

2183
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 1: the road, I definitely can see myself coaching.

2184
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 4: You've got two rookies in your room and Demetrius Knight

2185
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 4: and Barrett Carter. How much of a mentor ship role

2186
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 4: are you playing with them?

2187
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys have been great, a great group of rookies.

2188
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:49,839
Speaker 1: They came in with the right mindset. Obviously the athletic ability,

2189
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 1: but I've been really impressed with the way that they've

2190
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 1: been able to pick up this defense and really take

2191
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: accountability for it. They're making all the checks, making like

2192
01:46:57,439 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: just flying around, So it's just fun to see. I

2193
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,719
Speaker 1: think one of the biggest things that I appreciate it

2194
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 1: is just having a great linebacker room, Logan Wilson leading

2195
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 1: the way and those young guys really stepping up to

2196
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: the to.

2197
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 16: The task at hand.

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01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: And I think we have a great group of character

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01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 1: guys that want to see each other succeed. And that's

2200
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 1: not the same across the league. You know, there's definitely

2201
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 1: some times where you're like you get a little jealous

2202
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 1: here and there, but I really feel that we're truly

2203
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 1: positive with each other, trying to, you know, instill wisdom

2204
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 1: that you can help them become a better players and

2205
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: they can help us as well.

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01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 16: So it's a it's a circle.

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01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 12: Another thing I remember as a young football player in

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01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:38,759
Speaker 12: the National Football League was how these athletes are such freaks.

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Speaker 12: I mean, they're freaks of nature. And I'm like, I

2210
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 12: don't know if I can do this. I mean, I

2211
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 12: don't know if I could hang with these guys. These

2212
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 12: guys are just it's amazing. I know, I didn't close

2213
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 12: my eyes. How did he get from there to there?

2214
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 19: Man?

2215
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 1: How did he move so fast?

2216
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 12: And I mean it was like Isaac Curtis are one

2217
01:47:55,840 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 12: of our wide receivers. This guy ran, you know, like

2218
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:03,759
Speaker 12: a like a nine two or nine three hundred meters

2219
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 12: or whatever the heck it was. I mean, he was

2220
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 12: on last guy that didn't make He was an alternated

2221
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 12: on the Olympic team sprinter, and he would just I'm

2222
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 12: just run by people and catch the back half of

2223
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 12: the football. You had sticky fingered hands, like glue on

2224
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 12: his hands. Just a dominant, a dominant at his position group.

2225
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 12: And then a guy named Mike Reid, a defensive lineman

2226
01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 12: out of Penn State. This guy was cat quick. It

2227
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,759
Speaker 12: was like, oh my gosh, man, this guy's turning fifty

2228
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 12: five hundred and sixty pounds and he moves like he's

2229
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 12: about one eighty. How the heck did these guys do this?

2230
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 12: What are they eating?

2231
01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 1: You know, what are they doing in workouts? Did you?

2232
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 12: Did you have any of that? Like when you were

2233
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 12: a young player in the league. It's like, man, this guy,

2234
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 12: I mean, I know, I've watched him. I knew he

2235
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 12: was good, but I didn't realize he was this good.

2236
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just coming into the league with Clay Matthews,

2237
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers, obviously, Boktiari was a great left tackle.

2238
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 16: Yeah. We had a ton of.

2239
01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: Guys out there in Green Bay and just seeing what

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Speaker 1: they could do at a high level. I was like,

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01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:03,640
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta step my game up, you know,

2242
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 1: saying so I watched exactly what the bets were doing

2243
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 1: at Mercedes.

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01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:08,719
Speaker 16: Lewis was a great example.

2245
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,600
Speaker 1: He tight end that played in the league for a

2246
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, I literally just watched what he did.

2247
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 1: He was getting in the song and he was cold plunging.

2248
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,800
Speaker 1: He was getting extra work with the trainers, and I

2249
01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 1: was like, all right, he's been playing in the league

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Speaker 1: for a long time, so I'm going to do exactly

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01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 1: what he does and taking care of yeah, exactly. So

2252
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:25,680
Speaker 1: from there you kind of figure out what your own

2253
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: routine looks like, what works for you, And it's kind

2254
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 1: of a trial and everything you know throughout your career.

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Speaker 16: You figure out you know, all right.

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01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:33,560
Speaker 1: I have to have massage, massage on this day so

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01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: I can feel my best for practice. Yeah, it's just

2258
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 1: a process of figuring out what.

2259
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 16: Works works best for you.

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Speaker 4: Linebacker Orrin Burks is our gasty obviously started his NFL

2261
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 4: career with the Green Bay Packers.

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01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:45,880
Speaker 13: That's where the Bengals are headed.

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01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 4: This Sunday, we'll talk about the return to Lembo Field.

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01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 4: This is the Bengals Pep Browley Show presented by Just

2265
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 4: Their Chicken from the on the on the Ryan Eatery

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01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 4: Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Dave lap Book broadcasting from

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01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 4: the on the Rind Eatery. This afternoon, if the Bengals

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01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:09,799
Speaker 4: Pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken, our special

2269
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:12,879
Speaker 4: guest in the final hour of our show is Bengals

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01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 4: linebacker Arren Burke so Orren spent the first four years

2271
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 4: of his NFL career with the team the Bengals are

2272
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 4: playing this week.

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01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 13: The Green Bay Packers.

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01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 4: Defensive line coach Jerry Montgomery spent nine years working for

2275
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 4: Green Bay, and I asked Jerry earlier this week about

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01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:30,479
Speaker 4: returning to lambeau Field.

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Speaker 9: You definitely feel the history.

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01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 14: It's an unbelievable place to work and unbelievable place to

2279
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 14: play a football game. You walk through the tunnels and

2280
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 14: you fill it. It's neat even practicing there. There's an

2281
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 14: air about it. So and what's cool is when you

2282
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 14: pull in and you see now it's a little different

2283
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 14: now because people have tore down those homes and built

2284
01:50:56,240 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 14: massive places across the street. They're big tailgate places. It's

2285
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 14: just it's a really neat environment. It's probably as close

2286
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 14: to college environment as you'll feel in most places. But yeah,

2287
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:12,599
Speaker 14: neat venue, a lot of history and cool place.

2288
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 4: Did you feel the history when you played for the

2289
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers?

2290
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely everything you said is spot on. It's just a

2291
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 1: special place, especially for me to start my career. There

2292
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,600
Speaker 1: a historic organization very much like the Bengals, and you

2293
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 1: definitely feel that sense of pride. Even just going to

2294
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 1: the grocery store on a Wednesday, you see everybody in

2295
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 1: Packers gear and that's consistent every single week.

2296
01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 16: They just love football there.

2297
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 1: I categorize it as a grown ups college sound almost.

2298
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: It's just that kind of feel just going through a

2299
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 1: neighborhood and then opens up in Lambo's right there. So

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01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:48,599
Speaker 1: this will be my first time coming back to Lambero

2301
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 1: as an opponent. I've played them almost every year, but

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01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 1: they've always come to us, so this will.

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01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:58,320
Speaker 13: Be my first time going back, so that's got to

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01:51:58,320 --> 01:51:58,759
Speaker 13: be special.

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01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 12: Absolutely, absolutely look forward to it. You know, I guess

2306
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 12: this one's way off the wall. I guess in terms

2307
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 12: of it's not football related. But people love to be

2308
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 12: part of the Green Bay Packer organization in any way,

2309
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 12: shape or form that they can. And some, just like

2310
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 12: a stadium worker, does their job and does their job

2311
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 12: exceptually well, takes great pride in it. They think they're

2312
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 12: part of the Green Bay Packers organization and uh and

2313
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 12: and those those people are there forever did you make

2314
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 12: friendships you strike up any friendships with any of those

2315
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:34,639
Speaker 12: those folks.

2316
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 16: Yeah, there's a there's a lot of people that I'm

2317
01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 16: looking forward to seeing.

2318
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we get back, even from you know, the

2319
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,480
Speaker 1: guy that does the headsets, you know on the sideline

2320
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 1: and the equipment guys or a lot of them are

2321
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,759
Speaker 1: still there, so it be a lot of familiar faces.

2322
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:47,839
Speaker 1: So looking forward to to catching up with those guys.

2323
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 14: Cool.

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01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 1: That's one of the cool things about the league is

2325
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:51,560
Speaker 1: when you're in it long enough, it's a lot of

2326
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 1: familiar faces. Everybody bounces around. But like like you said,

2327
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 1: Lambeau Is is just it's just one of those historic

2328
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 1: places that, yeah, everybody just loves to be attached to.

2329
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 4: Green Bay is the smallest city in the US that

2330
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 4: has a major professional sports team. It's a city of

2331
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 4: about one hundred thousand people. Are you instantaneously recognized as

2332
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 4: a Packers player.

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01:53:11,360 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say you stand out. You stand out a tall,

2334
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 1: black athletic, like a guy you probably probably playing the

2335
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: Packers out there. But yeah, it's it's a great town.

2336
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 1: Everybody is very very kind, even to your families while

2337
01:53:23,680 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 1: you're out in public.

2338
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 16: But I enjoyed my time there.

2339
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 12: When you came to the Cincinnati Bengals, I know you

2340
01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 12: would probably you know from a distance seeing guys like

2341
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 12: study watch tape. Back in the day it was film,

2342
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 12: I'd watch film with guys you're watching tape, Jamar, Chase

2343
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 12: T Higgins, Mike Sicky, andre Yosi Vash, these guys that

2344
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:52,679
Speaker 12: can really cause problems for a defensive football team. Are

2345
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 12: you expecting your offense to really go up there and

2346
01:53:56,320 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 12: make a statement? You know, say to the Green Bay Packers,

2347
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 12: not today. I know it's your home, I know you've

2348
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 12: got a great crowd support, I know you've got a

2349
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 12: fan base that's second to none, But not today.

2350
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely my expectation. It's interesting, this is you know,

2351
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 1: as long as I've been in the league, this is

2352
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: my first time being on the AFC side, so you know,

2353
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 1: I've kind of seen these guys from AFAR, but not

2354
01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:22,679
Speaker 1: necessarily every year matchup. It's been kind of like sporadic throughout,

2355
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 1: but going through camp and you know, seeing those guys

2356
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: up close to the way that they work their work

2357
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 1: ethic and how they get off releases for tomorrow or

2358
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 1: t like all those guys, It's it's impressive. And I've

2359
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 1: been a lot of ben around a lot of greats

2360
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 1: with Davante Adams, and Brandon and I you a couple

2361
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 1: other guys, you know, but these guys are cream of

2362
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 1: the crop, and it's it's fun to be on the

2363
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:46,080
Speaker 1: opposing side. It challenges you even more as especially as

2364
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 1: a linebacker, just finding ways to get underneath to help

2365
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 1: the dbs out on the backside.

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01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 16: So it's it's been fun to see them up close.

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01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 4: You were there when Jordan Love was drafted. He had

2368
01:54:57,800 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 4: to wait his turn for three years before becoming the

2369
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:03,160
Speaker 4: starting quarterback, but I'm sure you practiced against him. What

2370
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 4: are your impressions of Jordan Love?

2371
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's he's grown so much in his

2372
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 1: in his time in the in the league, and I

2373
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 1: just knew he was gonna be ready when the opportunity came,

2374
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 1: just the way he carried himself. It's obviously a unique

2375
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: situation to step in two as a first rounder and

2376
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 1: you know you're you're behind one of the greats, Aaron Rodgers.

2377
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a gold jacket guy in the future.

2378
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 1: But just the way that he handled himself, his intention

2379
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 1: to detail, even on scout team was amazing. He can

2380
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: make all the throws, so you just knew that when

2381
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: his time was gonna come he was gonna shine. So

2382
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:35,760
Speaker 1: just super proud of him in the way that he

2383
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's progressed throughout his career, but he's an

2384
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: opponent this week, so looking forward to getting after it

2385
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 1: there you go.

2386
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 12: I know when I played, there was like a sense

2387
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 12: of responsibility to the community because the Bengals were such

2388
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 12: a big part of the community. You know, tried to

2389
01:55:52,760 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 12: put the community in the best light possible, traveling all

2390
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 12: over the different parts of the country, playing games representing

2391
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 12: a city Cincinnati. Same thing with the Reds and they

2392
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 12: had their big run with Pete Rose and Johnny Bench

2393
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:08,680
Speaker 12: and all these all these great players did the green

2394
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 12: Bay Packers, they they have to have a very unique

2395
01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 12: relationship with green Bay. They just it has to be

2396
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 12: a bond that's unbelievably special. Do players think about that

2397
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 12: when they're out on the road. You know, we're here

2398
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 12: representing the green Bay Packers and the city of green Bay,

2399
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 12: and we feel so fortunate lucky.

2400
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,240
Speaker 16: To do so. Yeah, I definitely feel like that's that's

2401
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 16: part of the equation.

2402
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 1: I think green Bay is very specific and they're the

2403
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 1: only team that's community owned.

2404
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 16: You know, they have a president, not an owner.

2405
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: You know it looks a little bit different in terms

2406
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 1: of organization, structure and all that kind of stuff. Yeah,

2407
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:49,280
Speaker 1: definitely a sense of pride and you know the city

2408
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 1: and you want to represent the people correctly. Like when

2409
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 1: you're out there playing hard, even though you know circumstances

2410
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 1: may not be great, you want to you want to

2411
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 1: put your best foot forward and uh know, there's no

2412
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 1: quit and that's been consistent and every city I've been

2413
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 1: in just for me personally, you just taking pride and

2414
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, representing the people of that city.

2415
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 4: Aaron Burks is a Bengal now a key member of

2416
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati defense. We'll talk about how the defense has

2417
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 4: been improving in recent weeks when we come back with

2418
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 4: today's special guest.

2419
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:18,160
Speaker 13: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show.

2420
01:57:18,160 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 4: Presented by Just Bear Chicken, live from the on the

2421
01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 4: Ryan Eatery on ESPN fifteen to thirty. Welcome back to

2422
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,720
Speaker 4: the Bengals pep Rally Show presented by Just Bear Chicken.

2423
01:57:35,760 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 4: We are live at the on the Ryan Eatery with

2424
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:41,400
Speaker 4: our special guest, Bengals linebacker Oron Burkes. So, last week

2425
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 4: against the Lions, you look at the final score, Detroit

2426
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:47,360
Speaker 4: scored thirty seven points. This might seem strange to say,

2427
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 4: but I felt like the defense actually played pretty well.

2428
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 4: You forced five punts. No team has forced Detroit to

2429
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:57,160
Speaker 4: punt more this year. You got to take away obviously

2430
01:57:57,280 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 4: a few other scores had to do with short fields.

2431
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:03,160
Speaker 4: You Bengals offensive turnovers, and you're on the field quite

2432
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 4: a bit because there are some three and outs as well.

2433
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 4: How did you feel about the performance last week and

2434
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 4: the way the defense is trended.

2435
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think our resilience was on display, you know,

2436
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 1: tough situations and feel wise, but everybody just bought in,

2437
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 1: Like there's a feeling on the sideline that nobody was

2438
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 1: giving up where you know, that's what you want to see.

2439
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 1: You want to see a team that's willing to fight

2440
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 1: for every blade of grass, and I definitely feel like

2441
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:32,400
Speaker 1: that's something that we take pride in and you know,

2442
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 1: every week we'll continue to get better in the defense.

2443
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: Is our first year with Al Golden, and everybody's kind

2444
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 1: of you know, getting a feel for, you know, how

2445
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 1: he calls the game, how each other play within the

2446
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 1: scheme and all of that coming together. I feel like

2447
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 1: we're coming into a defense that is going to help

2448
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,040
Speaker 1: us make a great run this year. Yeah, I think

2449
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:50,240
Speaker 1: the chee cheese.

2450
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 12: Al Golden's big believer in the two cheese, turnovers and

2451
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 12: third down. I mean, he wants to get off the field.

2452
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:00,440
Speaker 12: He wants three and outs. He wants as many of

2453
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 12: them as he possibly can get, not let their offense

2454
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 12: get in any kind of rhythm, any kind of timing,

2455
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 12: feel good and about themselves whatsoever. And then he wants

2456
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 12: to take it away. He wants to limit their possessions.

2457
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 12: You can take one less possession that they have. One

2458
01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 12: more that you have could be the determining factor in

2459
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 12: the outcome of the football game. What kind of a

2460
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:24,120
Speaker 12: defensive coordinator is Al Golden when you compare him to

2461
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 12: other defensive coordinators you've had during the course of your career.

2462
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one, he has a linebacker background, so you know, selfishly,

2463
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 1: that's always what I kind of look for in the DC,

2464
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 1: and they kind of can see things from my perspective, Ye,

2465
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, make my job a little easier. But I

2466
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 1: think he's very detailed. He expects a lot from us.

2467
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 1: The standard that he said, like you said, turnover is

2468
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 1: a third down and especially the red zone is really

2469
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 1: important to him as well, I feel like you.

2470
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 16: Get what you emphasize.

2471
01:59:51,280 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 1: So for him, like he's been trying to get us

2472
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 1: to punch the ball out, take the ball away with

2473
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 1: picks and interceptions and any opportunity we can do to

2474
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 1: give offensive back the ball in a great position.

2475
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 16: That's what we're looking to do. And I feel like.

2476
02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:06,960
Speaker 1: That's slowly starting to become our identity, you know, over

2477
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:09,840
Speaker 1: these last couple of games, kind of color rhythm and

2478
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 1: hoping to, you know, take it to the next level.

2479
02:00:11,640 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 1: And that's that's what we're we're looking to do every

2480
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: single week.

2481
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:17,840
Speaker 4: Your position coach, Mike Hodges isn't much older than you are.

2482
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:20,640
Speaker 4: Is this the youngest guy that you've played for in

2483
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 4: the NFL?

2484
02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah, he might be yeah, I think so, yep,

2485
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 1: he's that different.

2486
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:33,120
Speaker 16: Not really. We have a great working relationship.

2487
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 1: I feel like he's very like he's a young guy.

2488
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 1: He's firing, he's passionate about what he does. He's a

2489
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 1: great communicator, and I feel like with the young guys

2490
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 1: in our room, he's been able to coaching him up

2491
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 1: into a fashion where they can go out there and

2492
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 1: play fast and not worry about making mistakes, and you know,

2493
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:51,960
Speaker 1: all the kind of things that come up being a rookie.

2494
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:55,000
Speaker 1: He's kind of helped them step into their own So

2495
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:57,600
Speaker 1: for me that's refreshing, you know, because you know, I

2496
02:00:57,640 --> 02:00:59,480
Speaker 1: had different paths, you know, throughout my career. I had

2497
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:02,600
Speaker 1: to you know, figure out things how I wanted to be,

2498
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 1: you know, on the field. But he's really empowering them

2499
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 1: to be the best player that can be on the field.

2500
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:11,240
Speaker 12: You know, you hit on a point, young players, young coaches,

2501
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,520
Speaker 12: young players. That's pretty good dynamic, I think, you know,

2502
02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:17,440
Speaker 12: I mean I think that, Uh, I mean, there's not

2503
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:19,960
Speaker 12: a player on the roster with double digit years experience.

2504
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 1: You know.

2505
02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:24,080
Speaker 12: It's well, now there is yea, yeah Flackel, Yeah, exactly

2506
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 12: forty year old Joe Flackell. But uh, it's it's amazing

2507
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 12: how young the roster is in terms of I mean

2508
02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 12: every position group.

2509
02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 13: You know.

2510
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:36,839
Speaker 12: It's like, I think, I think that's a plus.

2511
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:37,600
Speaker 1: I really do.

2512
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 12: I think, particularly as the season wears on, the grind

2513
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 12: of the season, you know, and I think I think

2514
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:47,760
Speaker 12: guys will recover more quickly with the with the youth.

2515
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 12: What do you think?

2516
02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, being an old guy myself, now, it's

2517
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:56,400
Speaker 1: kind of funny how you know, I can't believe you're

2518
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 1: an old guy. It is actually insane to me that, yeah,

2519
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:01,920
Speaker 1: because they call me unk and all that kind of

2520
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:05,160
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I'm thirty years old. It's it's not that serious.

2521
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 1: But I'm thirty years old.

2522
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:08,200
Speaker 12: Great man.

2523
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I appreciate It's just funny in this

2524
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: profession that that's considered old. You know, any job you

2525
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:14,520
Speaker 1: just kind of get right.

2526
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 16: I embrace it. I embrace it.

2527
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, we have a lot of a lot of

2528
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: young guys with a lot of you know, passion, and

2529
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:23,160
Speaker 1: they're coming from the college where, uh, every week they're

2530
02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 1: just like hyped up and ready to go. So you know,

2531
02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 1: we're feeding off that energy and I definitely feel like

2532
02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:28,400
Speaker 1: that's going to help us a long one.

2533
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,600
Speaker 4: All Right, we need to take our final time out.

2534
02:02:30,680 --> 02:02:35,880
Speaker 4: When we come back, we will play America's favorite game show, Baby.

2535
02:02:36,480 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 13: We call it Know Your School?

2536
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:41,680
Speaker 4: Yes, sure, I have questions about Vanderbilt University. You must

2537
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 4: get at least three correct to be a winner. We'll

2538
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,720
Speaker 4: put Oran Burkes to the test when we come back.

2539
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 4: This is the Bengals pep Rally Show Live from the

2540
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:58,120
Speaker 4: on the Ryan Eatery on ESPN fifteen thirty and the

2541
02:02:58,120 --> 02:03:03,520
Speaker 4: Bengals pep Rally Show presented Just Bear Chicken live from

2542
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:06,600
Speaker 4: the on the Ryane Eatery here in downtown Cincinnati. You

2543
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:09,240
Speaker 4: want to thank our special guests or in Burke's for

2544
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:11,480
Speaker 4: coming out in a Friday afternoon and spending an hour

2545
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 4: with us.

2546
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 13: We've got a few minutes left on the show.

2547
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 4: That means it is time to play America's favorite game show.

2548
02:03:18,920 --> 02:03:22,240
Speaker 4: We call it Know Your School. I have five questions

2549
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:26,200
Speaker 4: about Vanderbilt University. He must get at least three rights

2550
02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 4: to be declared a winner. I see that your wife

2551
02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:34,240
Speaker 4: looks quite amused. This quiz is coming up. Are you ready?

2552
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 13: Orn Burks? Question number one.

2553
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:41,879
Speaker 4: Name the former US Vice president known for his climate

2554
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 4: change activism who graduated. You are correct, Al gore Go,

2555
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 4: but graduated from Vanderbilt Law School. As the rest of

2556
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 4: the question, you are one for one. Question number two,

2557
02:03:55,440 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 4: the last consensus all American at Vanderbilt earned that honor

2558
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 4: at linebacker Zach Zach Cunningham is correct.

2559
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,280
Speaker 13: I'm not even I can't even get the whole question out.

2560
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:09,080
Speaker 1: All right, We've ever.

2561
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 4: Had three questions left to get at least one right now?

2562
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:14,160
Speaker 4: If you get this one, then you go for the

2563
02:04:14,160 --> 02:04:18,760
Speaker 4: perfect score and bragging rights for eternity. Question number three,

2564
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:23,760
Speaker 4: the most famous building on campus didn't answer right away,

2565
02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:29,640
Speaker 4: features a large clock tower and is frequently a hub

2566
02:04:29,680 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 4: of campus activity.

2567
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 1: So it's on alumni Lawn. I'm blanking on the name

2568
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:37,840
Speaker 1: of the actual building, but I can picture it.

2569
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, you're right about alumni lawn. That is correct. Kirkland Hall.

2570
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 13: Kirkland Hall.

2571
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:45,760
Speaker 4: All right, so it's not a perfect score, but you've

2572
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:49,120
Speaker 4: got two left to be a winner. Question number four,

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Speaker 4: Oh tarn with the buzzer in the background. Question number four,

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Speaker 4: who is Vanderbilt University named for?

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Speaker 16: Cornelius Vanderbilt?

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Speaker 4: You are correcting, Oh, business magnate Cornelius Vanderbilt, who made

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Speaker 4: a one million dollar gift in eighteen seventy three. I

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Speaker 4: was worth a lot of money back then. Still pretty

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Speaker 4: good back then. Cornelius had some dough. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 4: like a railroad guy. He had it going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: all right. Final question is kind of an easy one.

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Speaker 4: I should have come up with a tougher one, but

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Speaker 4: I'll ask it anyway. Name the former Vanderbilt quarterback known

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Speaker 4: for his big arm and his great hair, who was

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Speaker 4: a pro bowler in two thousand and eight and named

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Speaker 4: one of the top correct top one hundred Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 13: Of all time in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: The correct answer is Jay Cutler, you got four out

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Speaker 4: of five.

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Speaker 13: No, your school absolutely wrong. Crowd is IM proud.

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Speaker 12: I want to give him four and a half. He

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Speaker 12: knew everything about that.

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Speaker 13: He kind of knew Kirkland Hall just a blank.

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Speaker 12: He had haul Kirkland. That was a storm missing ingredient.

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Speaker 4: One of the questions I often ask, which is frequently

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Speaker 4: a stumper, is what is the name of the main

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Speaker 4: library on campus? Do you know the answer to that?

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Speaker 16: At Vandy Main Library? I don't know. I didn't spend

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Speaker 16: the time there, so I was. I was in Study Hall.

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Speaker 16: It was all the way across campus.

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Speaker 4: Here's why I didn't ask. It's Central Library.

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Speaker 13: Okay, yeah, it doesn't even have a good name.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, cral Central Library, central Library.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, we had our own study area.

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Speaker 4: So well, clearly you did well not only in school

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Speaker 4: but at football and now in the NFL. Eight years,

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Speaker 4: my man, that's quite an accomplishment. Hopefully you've got several

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Speaker 4: more in you lap played ten years in the NFL

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Speaker 4: plus two more in the USFL back when it existed. So,

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Speaker 4: like we said at the very beginning, play as long

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Speaker 4: as you can.

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Speaker 12: I played for the President of the United States Donald

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Speaker 12: Trump on the New Jersey General. I could see you

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Speaker 12: as president. Get in the politics I.

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Speaker 1: Would give.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, let's see, let's start with beating the Packers. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: number destroy them, go back to Green Bay and another

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Speaker 4: team's uniform and leave Lambeau with a win.

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Speaker 16: There we go.

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Speaker 4: Hey, we really appreciate you coming out and doing this.

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Speaker 4: You have congratulations on a great career to date, including

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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl wing a ring rather and we hope

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Speaker 4: you're wearing one with the Bengals logo on at the

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Speaker 4: end of this year.

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Speaker 13: It all right, let's hear it. Let's hear it. That

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Speaker 13: is going to just about do it.

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Speaker 4: For our show today, we want to thank our engineer

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Speaker 4: Mike Mills, who comes out generally sets things up really early.

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Speaker 4: That wasn't the case today, but Mike got here in time.

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Speaker 4: He came to the rescue for our show. We want

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Speaker 4: to thank the folks here at the on the rhyne

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Speaker 4: eatery want. We want to thank Nikki from the Bengals

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Speaker 4: who's helping us out today. Most of all, thank you

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Speaker 4: to the Bengals fans for coming out and being part

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Speaker 4: of the show. Love you guys, Appreciate you guys, and

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Speaker 4: I hope to see you next time. That's going to

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Speaker 4: do it for today's show. You've been listening to the

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