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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am here in the studio with Sarah

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Speaker 1: Geiger Biam and we're going to finish out our favorite

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Speaker 1: and Heather Augustine and in about fifteen minutes we'll start

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Speaker 1: talking about our favorite top plants for both ecological function

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Speaker 1: and beauty, and we welcome your input on that too.

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Speaker 1: for both beauty and function. You can check out our podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I forgot to mention that earlier past shows are available

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Speaker 1: at any favorite source of podcasts. So we left off

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Speaker 1: we were talking about Japanese maples. I think we finished that.

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Speaker 1: What is your next favorite plant, Sarah?

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Speaker 2: The blazing Stars liatress so predictable. Really, they're so good,

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Speaker 2: they're so good, they're so good, they're beautiful. Right now.

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Speaker 3: I saw wild liatress growing in a drainage ditch on

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Speaker 3: I seventy one. This week, and I assume it was Spakada.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was picnistaki.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's hard to tell from far away,

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Speaker 2: but just beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting how many of those so called prairie plants

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Speaker 1: that you know do well in dry soil, poor soil

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Speaker 1: and you cut for me, at least I kind of

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Speaker 1: frame it. That's what they want, that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: But they also do really well in these ditches and places.

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Speaker 3: Spocato seems it likes a little bit more water, I

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Speaker 3: think than compared to legular stylus. Those are the two

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to learn about the differently attress species

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Speaker 1: out there. Yes, Fortunately they're coming into the market more

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Speaker 1: and more. People are starting to think about it more

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Speaker 1: and we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 3: And they grow like a dream and a container.

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Speaker 2: I'm growing three different, four different latress from seeds this

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Speaker 2: year and they all have just visible.

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Speaker 3: Coorms coming up that look like a little tiny seed potato.

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Speaker 3: And that was a lot more than I was expecting

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Speaker 3: from just a few months in a container.

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Speaker 1: You know what, My favorite next plan is, what's that tomatoes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no argument.

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Speaker 1: There, speaking of obvious, this is their just coming into

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Speaker 1: their own as far as producing. Yeah, and there's nothing

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Speaker 1: like a fresh tomato straight from the garden or a

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Speaker 1: cherry tomato popped in your mouth, still a little dirty, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love growing tomatoes. It's my favorite vegetable to grow.

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Speaker 3: I think it's the easiest one to grow. I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of people might disagree with me on that

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Speaker 3: because there are some diseases. There are some and they

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Speaker 3: they're wild. I mean, my Chadwick cherry is it's a beast.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: They can grow too fast, but such a rewarding plant

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Speaker 3: and you almost can't kill it. I had a few

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Speaker 3: seedlings that I just kept in trays as indicator plants, and.

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Speaker 2: They're still alive. I'm like a little seventy two tray.

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Speaker 3: It's at this point, it's like, can I get this

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Speaker 3: plant through a whole season and a seventy two tray?

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Speaker 2: I maybe I just threw.

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Speaker 1: Out my extras. Yeah. I had several in like left over,

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Speaker 1: and I just kept watering them and watering them, and

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Speaker 1: they're in these little I guess it was seventy two

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Speaker 1: were so sad looking. Yeah, And finally I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: can't you guys. I'm torturing you, guys. It's time for euthanasia.

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Speaker 3: It's not like they're producing anything, but yeah, the fact

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Speaker 2: They will go into hard wilt in that tray and

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Speaker 2: then I water the train.

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Speaker 1: It's like right back, Yeah, yep, we've got about maybe

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Speaker 1: five more minutes for these. What's your next one? The

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Speaker 1: highest on your list?

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Speaker 3: Oh, the highest on my list, Joe pie Weed, yep,

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Speaker 3: looking great right now. Yeah, the really tall one.

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Speaker 1: What is that gateway? Maculate them, malculate them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw the straight species that Wentwood's fantastic planting

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Speaker 1: It's amazing when you see it out in nature. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it makes such a good garden plant. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: Are They've come out with quite a few newer ones

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Speaker 1: it in your garden is pretty cool. That's where breeding

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Speaker 1: is a great thing. Speaking of breeding, I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to have to do this. I got to mention hibiscus again.

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Speaker 1: I know I did it a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: but they are just so yeah, oh and will for

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Speaker 1: what I like about them most is that they're crowd pleasers.

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Speaker 1: You know at the zoo you see the kids just

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Speaker 3: And there it is a plant that delights especially children. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you know, talk about bang for your bot. If

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Speaker 3: just moved into a new place, or maybe you're renting

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Speaker 3: and you have just a small space and you miss gardening,

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Speaker 3: or you want to start gardening, get a get a hibiscus.

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Speaker 3: It's you'll see it from you know, one hundred yards

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned speaking of breeders when I introduced the plant,

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Speaker 1: because Hans Hansen, you know, good friend, we have had

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Speaker 2: Speak he can breed anything.

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Speaker 1: He can breed anything, and he does. He breaths everything.

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Speaker 1: But he really has done a wonder with a high

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all the summer effics, all.

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Speaker 1: The summer effics, Holy Grail, so many in the summer

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Speaker 1: a lot of these are on the proven Winter Yes,

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Speaker 1: in the proven Winter Catalog. A couple more minutes, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go ahead and mention again Vlox piniculata, because

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Speaker 1: they're really hitting stride and just work in the gardens. So, well,

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Speaker 1: what is your next one?

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Speaker 2: I have coreopsis. I like Zagreb.

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Speaker 3: I like moonbeam, the old ones, yeah I do. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm not big on the multi colored ones. That's just

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Speaker 3: a personal preference of mine. But yeah, a good garden plant.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't always perform over the long term like I like,

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Speaker 3: but it's really good at covering the ground, especially early

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Speaker 3: on in a planting. So I will use it to

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Speaker 3: fill gaps, knowing that maybe the baptisia next to it,

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Speaker 3: the false indigo next to it, will eventually encroach on it,

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Speaker 3: and I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've had Zagreb for years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: That is one that has staying power. Some of the

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Speaker 1: other I think moonbeams pretty good too. Some of the

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Speaker 1: other ones are sort of that fall under that short

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Speaker 1: lived perennial category. You got one more, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: So this is kind of an ball one. I am

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Speaker 3: growing snake bean for the first time this year.

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Speaker 2: It's a vine.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's in the squash family, and it's from Asia,

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Speaker 3: and apparently if you harvest the fruit early, it tastes

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Speaker 3: like green beans. If you harvest it later, it tastes

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Speaker 3: a little bit more like a squash.

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Speaker 2: But the plant is delightful.

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Speaker 3: I'm mostly growing it for my children because I thought

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Speaker 3: actual snakes almost hanging down from this big dramatic vine.

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Speaker 1: Foaking each other in the eyes with it.

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Speaker 3: You when you're trying to get kids into gardening, you

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Speaker 3: got to go dramatic.

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Speaker 2: And the snake bean absolutely it fits the bill on that.

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Speaker 1: It's a few trips to the er.

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Speaker 3: I really need like a ten foot tepee tripod for

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Speaker 3: this thing, because it is so vigorous, but I only

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Speaker 3: have some short sticks. So what it's doing now is

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Speaker 3: it looks like this skirt.

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Speaker 2: That's just it.

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Speaker 3: Goes up and then it kind of flows down and

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Speaker 3: it's very graceful, and it's like, oh, I could turn

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Speaker 3: this into a scarecrow or something. The designer I means, like,

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Speaker 3: how can I style this? It's so swirly and wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Halloween is only a few short months away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, all right, we got to wrap this up. We

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Speaker 1: never finish our lists, but that's okay, it's okay. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll have many years, hopefully maybe to do this. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to take a break and when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're going to have Jennifer Smith and Heather Augustine join us,

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Speaker 1: both of them great horticultures, and we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about more great plants, this time combining beauty with ecological functions.

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Speaker 2: I am excited about this topic.

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Speaker 3: It was more interesting and harder to answer the more

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Speaker 2: We have not talked about this, no.

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Speaker 1: We have not, so stay tuned for that. You will

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am here with three great horticulturists, Sarah Gigerbeam,

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Speaker 3: So the trees kind of set the stage for my

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Speaker 1: Have the importance of it. Yeah, holding and just sheare biomass,

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00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: which is also important for a lot of weird like

438
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: reasons gardeners don't normally think of. But biomass is so important.

439
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: Hosts a lot of pollinators, pretty easy, good for dry sites,

440
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: tolerant of higher pH So that was what I ran with. Yeah,

441
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: pretty much any oaks. As far as beauty, the form

442
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: is so great.

443
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, my sister has one. She lives on five wooded

444
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: acres and it's right at the top of like a

445
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: limestone ridge, and the character of that tree, it just

446
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 2: sort of towers over the entire valley.

447
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like. What I like about is the

448
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: bark is kind of blonde MoMA's white. Yeah, and it

449
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: stands out in the winter really nicely. It does and

450
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: catches light nicely too. It just has presents, has long lived.

451
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And sometimes I meet with some opposition from clients

452
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: to planting an oak. So if you can plant an

453
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: oak with a smaller acorn, yes, because that can be

454
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Speaker 3: irritating if you plant it next to a driveway.

455
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: Or a path or you know, and if you're a

456
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: small person.

457
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 3: And if you're a small person, you know, when I

458
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 3: had babies and strollers, I lived on a street with

459
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Speaker 3: a lot of oaks and sweet gums.

460
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Speaker 2: And pushing a stroller or a wheelchair down that would

461
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Speaker 2: be chilling.

462
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: So maybe my comment was rude and inappropriate. It was.

463
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: It was not thought out.

464
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm just used to that, Scott.

465
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: I'm kind of good at that. Actually, Heather, what's your

466
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: next tree?

467
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: Well?

468
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Speaker 7: Do we want to stay on the oak vein here

469
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 7: for a minute. I'm not surprised that's familiar. So I

470
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 7: specifically chose swamp white oak, which is Quercus by color,

471
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 7: the name coming from the fact that the top of

472
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 7: the leaf has that beautiful green color. The underside is

473
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 7: kind of a silvery white.

474
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: I never drew the correlation there, and.

475
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Speaker 7: I just love it because it does being in the

476
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 7: white oak group, it has a sweeter I wouldn't say sweet,

477
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 7: but a sweeter acorn also has that gorgeous yellow kind

478
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 7: of russet fall color. Yes, and so of course we

479
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 7: know again being a keystone species for so many caterpillars

480
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 7: around here. So it's a really great all around tree

481
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 7: that does get big.

482
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still scaled better for home landscapes than

483
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: perhaps a white oak or a burrok.

484
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 7: Or great for dry and wet equally. Yep, to take

485
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 7: wet clay compare that, Yes, yeah.

486
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, good choice. I like it. I like it her.

487
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 8: So I picked one that I noticed people kind of

488
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 8: stop and go, what is that? Umbrella magnolia, because we

489
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 8: need plants, especially trees that people kind of stop and say.

490
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 6: Oh, what is that?

491
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 8: Because it's so difficult to get people to plant large

492
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 8: trees they want to crab apple.

493
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 6: So it's not too big, it's not too.

494
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: Small, it's multi stems usually just.

495
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 6: Cool, which is going to get people interested in more plants.

496
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 6: What would I put with it?

497
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 8: So it's kind of like that domino effect is great flowers,

498
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 8: which regional bees like, I mean they like it, and

499
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 8: then the seeds are consumed by birds and small mammals,

500
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 8: so we are still supporting nature.

501
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 6: But it's one of them. They look like red hots.

502
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: They do what they look like red hots, which is cool.

503
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 6: That is cool. Yeah, just a little a little drama

504
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 6: in the garden. I think sometimes I.

505
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: Don't think they'll kill children, think red hots. I'm not sure.

506
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, let's not forget.

507
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: I really hammered it into my children. But they're not

508
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 3: allowed to eat things from the garden.

509
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: But it's hard.

510
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 7: It's hard for me not to So how can you

511
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 7: expect them?

512
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: Honestly, those little seeds do look edible.

513
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what about you your next one, Sarah?

514
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: I went with American beach.

515
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: Okay, there is nothing as gorgeous as an American.

516
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: Beach, so grand Yeah. Yeah, the smooth bark.

517
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: Smooth bark gets incredible character with age, and there's a

518
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: lot of variation. I mean, sometimes you get these low

519
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: branch specimens that just create, you know, like a quarter

520
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: acre of their own space underneath, and.

521
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: Really tall if they're competing.

522
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: With Yeah, so I love all the different shapes that

523
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: you see with American beach. You know. I they don't

524
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: do as well in the landscape as they do in

525
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: undisturbed areas, so you know, but this was beauty and function.

526
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily these are the first things that I'm

527
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: going to plant in a garden. But if I have

528
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: a spot for that, oh oh, I'm a happy designer.

529
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: In a good mass year, it makes a million little

530
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: beech nuts. Oh yeah, and they're small.

531
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a pantry for sure.

532
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, doesn't like reat disturbance, but where it's happy, it's

533
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: just an amazing tree.

534
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: And I like the leaves in the winter.

535
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: I was going to mention that color, like you'd say

536
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: it's sort of yellow, sort of brown, sort of gold

537
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 1: for fall color, and that doesn't sound super exciting, but

538
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: I think it's just stunning in the.

539
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: Winter form is better than the fall color.

540
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: I think I like them both.

541
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

542
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: So they what we're talking about is they hang onder

543
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: their leaves almost through the whole winter, even though they

544
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: are technically deciduous. The leaves die, but they don't fall off,

545
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 3: and so you get this wonderful sort of cinnamony colored

546
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: little flex around the understory of our forests around here,

547
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: and it's just it's so charming.

548
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: It is. It's charming for a big, towering, grand tree. Yeah,

549
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna surprise you, I think with my my next tree. Okay,

550
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: ilex Opeika or American holly? Anybody else have that one?

551
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: I did not. I'm not surprised. I actually I was

552
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: really kind of wanting more broad leaf evergreens.

553
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's you know, in this area with the

554
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: calcareous soils, a high pH and you know a mix

555
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: of hot and dry with cold and wet and all that.

556
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: You know, broad leaf evergreens don't generally do great here,

557
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: right exceptions, but just a few. But American holly does

558
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: pretty well. It's a slow grower and it's fallen out

559
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: of favor because nurseries don't want to mess with it.

560
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: Well, it's so expensive to produce because they grow so slowly,

561
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: and the price of a plant is it's really just

562
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: you're buying bench time, yes, nursery time, road time.

563
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: But it is a long lived plant. Yes, if it's happy,

564
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: you do. It is a male female, so you do

565
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: need to have a male to get the berries. But

566
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, so plant, you know three females and one

567
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: male and tucket somewhere where it's not going to be

568
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: all that visible. It's still beautiful. It just doesn't get

569
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: the berries. But I love this tree for ecological reasons

570
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: because it's evergreen.

571
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Yes, it.

572
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: Is a good windscreen. It's also great habitat for birds

573
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: tuck in and you know, get in this thorny leaves

574
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: and hide from whoever's after them. Great for pollinators. People

575
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: don't think of it for the flowers because they're very small,

576
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: but when it's in bloom, it's very fragrant. It is

577
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: and draws. It just buzzes with flowers.

578
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

579
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the berries are so beautiful to look at,

580
00:31:55,560 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: and they're grapefruit for birds later in the winter. To

581
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: another plus, it also hosts some caterpillars I did not know,

582
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: didn't expect Henry's elfin and hollow sallow moth. Okay, what

583
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with. Fairly adaptable. I love the conical

584
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: shape until it sort of reaches maturity and then it's

585
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: sort of like a more tree like.

586
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like what happens to the bark when they

587
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: get really old.

588
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, very smooth.

589
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: I'm a s beach like, yeah, the bark is it's

590
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: one of my favorite features of that. But it's got

591
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: to be, you know, eighty years old or something before

592
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: it gets that gnarly look to it.

593
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: We've got time for one more if we move fairly quick.

594
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: Putting the pressure on your head.

595
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 7: The pressure's on.

596
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

597
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 7: So I know we're talking about a lot of large trees,

598
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 7: and I know size does matter, especially with landscape design,

599
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 7: but I am gonna say my last big tree is

600
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 7: the American bass wood Americana And if you could, if

601
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 7: you have maybe a smaller space, you could always go

602
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 7: with its cousin, its European cousin. Little Leaf London has

603
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 7: a little bit more past damage with like Japanese beetles,

604
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 7: but they both have amazing early summer just completely covered

605
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 7: with the sweetest smelling flowers. And if you look up

606
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 7: into a tree at the time of year, it's just

607
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 7: shimmering with these pollinating insects. So I think it's wonderful

608
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 7: for that reason. Heart shaped leaves I saw several.

609
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: Yesterday actually in a client's yard. Well it was right

610
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: over the fence line in a wooded area, but they

611
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: were spaced equally, and I thought, I wonder if somebody

612
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: planted these and they were all just magnificent.

613
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: And what caught my attention was the foliage.

614
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: I went up on their deck to look over, and

615
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: just a wonderful coarse foliage. It really adds a lot,

616
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: especially if you put that kind.

617
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: Of in the back. I like, of course, foliage in

618
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: the back.

619
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 7: Big shade tree. Yeah, also for the right place. And

620
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 7: the flowers also make a wonderful tea that's very relaxing,

621
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 7: so either yeah, right big in Europe, but I've tried

622
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 7: them and you just steep them and it's actually winter relaxing.

623
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes it tilli and sometimes it's linden.

624
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 7: Yes, exactly, wonderful.

625
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: Well, great, when we come back, we will continue this

626
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: conversation on trees, and then we'll move on to shrubs,

627
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: and then we'll move on to perennials and then to annuals.

628
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: If we can control ourselves and get more efficient with

629
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: our discussion, yeah, we'll see how far we go. Anyway,

630
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Speaker 1: stay with us for more of this discussion. It's a

631
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Speaker 1: good one. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. That's garden with scap erline. We are talking

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Speaker 1: trees that combine color. Well, it could be color but

653
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: beauty and ecological function. And whose turn is is Jeffer's right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jennifer's turn.

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Speaker 6: So I picked this one because it has great atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: Atmosphere.

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Speaker 6: Atmosphere.

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Speaker 8: I just read some stuff by Dan Pearson, so I

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Speaker 8: have to work in atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 8: If I had the room and I had a wet spot,

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Speaker 8: a willow tree. There's nothing more romantic than a willow

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Speaker 8: tree in the breezes. Yeah, old fashion, kids can play

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Speaker 8: underneath it. It's also a host plant for some very

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Speaker 8: critical insects too, so.

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Speaker 6: It has beauty and support.

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Speaker 8: But I don't think we normally think of a willow

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Speaker 8: tree as oh, I'm helping what our Latin names of

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Speaker 8: plant animals. I will not try to repeat hundreds of

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Speaker 8: species of butterflies and moss, which I thought surprising because

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Speaker 8: sometimes some of these trees would be like two hundreds.

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Speaker 6: All right, good?

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Speaker 8: And then early spring is a critical first pollen for bees.

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Speaker 8: You've got the bees, you've got the caterpillars.

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Speaker 1: It's just four season beauty.

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Speaker 6: It's traditional.

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Speaker 2: So I had I had willows too, just they just

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Speaker 2: make me happy.

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Speaker 7: I had it and took it off. It's up there

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Speaker 7: with mine as well, so again, this.

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Speaker 3: Is not like it's not always my first go to

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Speaker 3: as a designer. I'm a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Have we been too We could even use it, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to put a weeping willow

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Speaker 3: anywhere near someone's sewer line or you.

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Speaker 6: Know, right on the septics.

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Speaker 2: The ideals. I have a healthy respect for what willow

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Speaker 2: roots can do.

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Speaker 3: But you know, some of this, like the smaller strubby willows,

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Speaker 3: you can get away with more. But yeah, willows are

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Speaker 3: another one. Like the oaks, they're a keystone group and

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Speaker 3: they support a lot of pollinators. That early pollen is

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Speaker 3: really important because of the timing and that early flush

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Speaker 3: of growth. It's one of the first things that you

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Speaker 3: see waking up and when the trees wake and you

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Speaker 3: know you can see.

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Speaker 2: It from so it just starts to glow.

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Speaker 3: And then the texture, you know, whether it's the upright

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Speaker 3: with the thin stems, or whether it's like a weeping.

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Speaker 1: Willow, don't forget movement.

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Speaker 2: Movement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot to say for that plant. Good choice, Jennifer,

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Speaker 1: well done.

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Speaker 6: I get a gold star.

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Speaker 1: You do mark it down, Sarah, what is your next tree?

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Speaker 2: I put red maples?

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Speaker 1: Interesting?

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Speaker 3: Okay, very common tree, but I I would put a

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Speaker 3: red maple up against any other tree for fall color.

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Speaker 3: Some of the cultivars are just fabulous, but even the

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Speaker 3: street species are usually pretty good. I've had some volunteers

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Speaker 3: come up that it's like that's worth keeping. And again

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Speaker 3: with the timing. It's one of the first sources of

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Speaker 3: pollen for pollinators in our area.

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Speaker 1: And it's a wind pollinated tree. But what's interesting about that.

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Speaker 2: Upon it on it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really interesting bloom.

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Speaker 3: A little bit before that. I am not not sure

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Speaker 3: if the silver maples.

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Speaker 1: Are as good for I haven't heard that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. They might be, but they're not as

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Speaker 2: pretty as a red.

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Speaker 7: They're like very early blooming too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So like if you look at the growing degree todays,

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Speaker 3: it's like silver maple, red maple in our area and yeah,

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Speaker 3: great tough plant. Oh yeah, you know, and they do

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Speaker 3: develop great character and the fall color is just fantastic.

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Speaker 3: The flowers and the seeds are actually decorative.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, some of the hybrids with silver maple, which

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Speaker 1: are called Freeman maples, combined the best of both. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so the added vigor of being a hybrid and whatever.

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Speaker 1: Silver maple brings to the table and then the good

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Speaker 1: fall color out of the red and you've got a

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Speaker 1: really great tree there.

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Speaker 7: It is looking up into a bright blue sky and

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Speaker 7: early spring day and seeing those little red flowers up

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Speaker 7: against that blue is absolutely magical experience.

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Speaker 2: It's what my soul needs at that point in the year.

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Speaker 7: Spring is here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right there with the daffodils and the crocuses. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: It's like the moment you realize you survived another one. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: My next one is probably predictable, but it's a Yushino

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Speaker 1: cherry prunicieto ensis. So I think everybody straight away from

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Speaker 1: the ornamental flowering trees, but I had to include at

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Speaker 1: least one, and for beauty untouchable when it's in bloom.

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Speaker 1: The form of it with the spreading branches and then

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Speaker 1: the flowers on them just great. The bark is pretty too,

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Speaker 1: but it does produce little fruits that somebody must eat

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Speaker 1: and go into that too much. The size is nice

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Speaker 1: for a lot of gardens, creates a lot of habitat.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty adaptable to soils and moisture and all that.

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Speaker 1: It is a host plant for coral hair, street tiger swallowtail,

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Speaker 1: apparently tiger swallowtail is happy on pretty much anything painted

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Speaker 1: lady red, spotted purples and spring azures. Pretty good for

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Speaker 1: a host plant. And did I miss anything about the

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Speaker 1: beauty just it does have winter interest too, you yellow

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Speaker 1: snow or ice on the branching. Yeah, it's really good,

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Speaker 1: heather you.

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Speaker 7: So, I don't think anyone's going to be surprised with

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Speaker 7: this one, which actually could be considered a small understory

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Speaker 7: tree or large shrub, which is going to be our

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Speaker 7: pop pop. So of course you have that tropical looking foliage.

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Speaker 7: It is the only plant in that family that can

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Speaker 7: withstand freezing cold winters, so the rest of that family

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Speaker 7: is tropical. It does have those tropical fruits that kind

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Speaker 7: of taste like a mix some people say between like

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Speaker 7: a mango and a banana. And also the fall color

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Speaker 7: which is kind of like a nice yellow shade, and

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Speaker 7: it does it is actually the host for the zebra swallowtail.

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Speaker 1: Important. What a great butterfly, very very important.

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Speaker 7: And so again you know, it's just a great kind

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Speaker 7: of all round four season tree, both for us and

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Speaker 7: for wildlife.

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Speaker 6: The flowers are really under yes, little burgundy.

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Speaker 7: Bells, right.

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Speaker 1: I love that fall color that yellow that old or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty adaptable. You can put it in pretty

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Speaker 1: much full shade and it'll grow tall and skinny. You

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Speaker 1: can put it in full sun maybe with a little

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Speaker 1: irrigation as a young plan especially, and it forms this

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Speaker 1: beautiful conical form. Yes, that just looks so.

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Speaker 2: Different in full sun than it is as an understre Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Got to mention the rubber chicken. We're looking for a name.

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Speaker 1: We're looking for a name for our talisman rubber chicken.

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Speaker 1: Ron Rothis has posted a picture of it that Sarah

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Speaker 1: took on the in the Garden facebook page. You want

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Speaker 1: to check that out. And we're looking and we're looking

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Speaker 1: for okay, and we're looking for names. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with a few more trees and then jump in the

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Speaker 1: shrubs and perennial. Stay with us. That's Gary Scott Berline

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Speaker 1: just a few.

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Speaker 10: Minutes the

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Speaker 3: Test