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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday. Some say.

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Speaker 1: Will vacation pro and that's the way the news goes.

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Speaker 1: It certainly is the way the news goes. Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: right here, glad to be Glad to see Joe Chucker,

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Speaker 1: executive producer, Internet research guru, all round, great guy and

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Speaker 1: podcast producer. You gonna be doing Andre a Ewing's podcast, Joe,

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Speaker 1: You're helping him. Good Undre a Ewing Brother Dre joined

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Speaker 1: the program yesterday. I got a little story to talk

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, what's going on this morning here?

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Speaker 1: First off, I love hearing from you. If you have

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Speaker 1: and programs that have been previously in place that worked,

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Speaker 1: and apparently the current administration isn't interested in pursuing things

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Speaker 1: actually providing any benefit. We all know that story anyway,

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Speaker 1: Andrea on that fifty five caresee dot com chief Scott

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Speaker 1: Hughes on the violence in Cincinnati Christopher Smith event and man,

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Speaker 1: it was a Smith event yesterday on fire, very passionate,

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Speaker 1: claiming the mayor and city since a city council of

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Speaker 1: blood on their hands. But he was certainly upset, as

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Speaker 1: the other day. A special Daniel Davis deep dive obviously

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Speaker 1: on Venezuela. Just because we did one yesterday doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: we're not doing one today. Daniel Davis returns as he

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Speaker 1: typically does every Tuesday at eight thirty. We certainly will

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Speaker 1: get the latest from Venezuela. And hey, look it's on

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Speaker 1: the rundown. Russia and Ukrain are still fighting? Is that

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Speaker 1: still going on? Joe overshadowed by some other news, at

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Speaker 1: least momentarily, Daniel Davis at eight thirty preseeded by the

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Speaker 1: Inside Scoop with breit Barton News should be a great one.

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Speaker 1: I mean personally, always think to talk out of the

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Speaker 1: folks from Breitbart is great. But today it's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be interesting. Never talked to him before. Caleb Caruzo escaped

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Speaker 1: Venezuela in twenty twenty four, now lives legally in Italy.

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Speaker 1: He broke the news of Maduro's capture on the Breitbart

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Speaker 1: site early on Saturday morning, and well native Venezuela began

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Speaker 1: writing for breitbarton twenty nineteen, hired to do a series

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Speaker 1: called My Socialist Hell. M says he spent his days

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Speaker 1: obviously he's got a personal story to telling. It is

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Speaker 1: to his thoughtful analysis about what's going to happen and

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Speaker 1: what is going on in e Venezuela. Preceded by great

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Speaker 1: in studio a common police judge Christopher McDowell. Apparently he's

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Speaker 1: had his life and his family threatened by one of

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Speaker 1: his defendants. And what a problem it is to be

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Speaker 1: Vivik Ramaswami, he's an appeared in The Wall Street Journey

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Speaker 1: social media because it unduly influences people. It's a bunch

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Speaker 1: Mainly for that reason I've said many times. I never

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Speaker 1: Here's Brian Thomas not caring. I don't look out there

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Speaker 1: who is. You're welcome to call into the Morning Show,

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Speaker 1: those lines. But going back to the judge, Chris McDowell,

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Speaker 1: Probably not in the vast majority of cases. Might you

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Speaker 1: Might it influence your judicial decision? Certainly a possibility, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Not that I want to talk about myself. But I

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Speaker 1: It just really is an effort to inform the listeners.

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Speaker 1: anybody else get a duke bill recently? Joe? Have you

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Speaker 1: recently received a duke bill, like within the last week

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Speaker 1: or so? Was it a lot more than previously? Did

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Speaker 1: You've got even billing? I don't. I have never seen

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Speaker 1: like I'm gonna remember the one I just paid yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Did the rates go up? Did I miss something? Or

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Speaker 1: Cord to the reporting, US Secret Service agent witnessed the incident,

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Speaker 1: As he writes, questions instead revealed confusion and contradiction. Here,

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Speaker 2: Hmmm.

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Speaker 1: Now, of course, we've had a lot of problems in

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Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, that camera promise was made like two and

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Speaker 1: Oh but see, that's not existing infrastructure, Joe. You can't

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Speaker 1: all day long. Councilman Seth Walsh actually his name is

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Speaker 1: We need to make this a true priority and figure

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Speaker 1: This is an issue that's been going on for years,

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Speaker 1: Close quote. Oh, it's it's a priority, but not a

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Speaker 1: City manager spokeswoman Molly Laire referred all questions regarding the

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Speaker 1: Joe strecord stack is stupid coming up. Have we already

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Speaker 1: my little sticker says I need my oil change and

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Speaker 1: I will save a couple of one hundred dollars rather than

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Speaker 1: taking it to the dealer where I would be charged

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Speaker 1: by going to Foreign Exchange. I know it's crazy, but

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Speaker 1: What are you going to do? But that's real savings.

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Speaker 1: I love saving money, and the Foreign Exchange knows everybody does,

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Speaker 1: especially since the price of fixing cars has gone up

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Speaker 1: That is the location where I go. That's where my

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Speaker 1: ride on Kinglin and you'll run right into it. Tell him,

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Speaker 1: Brian said, Hi, when you stop them, please dial them

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Speaker 3: This is fifty five KRC an iHeartRadio station.

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Speaker 1: Feel so badly for women these days. We got a

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Speaker 1: guy who's accused of I'll use the pleasuring himself the

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Speaker 1: M word in the women's bathroom and a Planet Fitness

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Speaker 1: in California. Not shocking, that's him So we.

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Speaker 5: Could get into the penalty box.

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Speaker 2: All by himself.

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Speaker 1: Incident caught on camera. It seems to be a default

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Speaker 1: statement in any news article these days, anyway. Grace Hudson

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Speaker 1: person's feet and what appears to be the shadow of

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Speaker 1: male body parts as he was inside the bathroom stall

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Speaker 1: when the initial incid had happened, and she told staffers,

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Speaker 1: but they apparently did not know what to do in

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Speaker 1: these trying times we live in. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: a time when there weren't supposed to be guys and

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Speaker 1: they're junk in women's bathrooms. It was like an arrestable offense, right. Apparently,

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Speaker 1: her boyfriend eventually confronted the man, pointing out that he

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Speaker 1: said I'm a transgender and then later claiming not his

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Speaker 1: words but basically boiled down that he was not pleasuring himself.

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Speaker 1: I guess in spite of the video camera evidence which

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Speaker 1: seems to document that he did that. Cord of the post,

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Speaker 1: she regrets not doing more when she saw the man

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Speaker 1: and honestly, I kind of just wanted to say my

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Speaker 1: I do it regrets like I should have done more.

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Speaker 1: I should have called the cops yep, and probably was

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Speaker 1: afraid to do so. Kind of common line of the

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Speaker 1: lines of what vvig Ramaswaram he said with regard to

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Speaker 1: social media, you know, if you bother to say anything,

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Speaker 1: if you draw attention to something that is bad and wrong,

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Speaker 1: demonstrably so objectively so there shouldn't be men pleasuring themselves

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Speaker 1: in the women's bathroom, then you might be docksed on

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Speaker 1: social media. They might call you out for being I

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Speaker 1: don't know, transphobic. You know, I'll tell you that has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with transphobia. I guess it's one thing

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Speaker 1: to argue that the person who identifies as a woman

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Speaker 1: should be allowed in there, and I'm not one that

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Speaker 1: buys into that argument. But just because they're allowed in there,

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Speaker 1: does that mean they engage in acts that this person

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Speaker 1: was conducted in the women's bathroom? Right, going back to

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Speaker 1: the reasons why it shouldn't be allowed, Go ahead, docs

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Speaker 1: me on social media. Let's see here five one, three, seven, eight,

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Speaker 1: stupid Florida man. Pope County, Florida now behind bars after

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Speaker 1: the deputy say he had a gun hidden under prosthetic

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Speaker 1: silicone breasts while trespassing at a construction site. Poul Kuty

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Speaker 1: Sheriff Grady Judd said, Matthew Zacharina, thirty nine, of Altamonte Springs,

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Speaker 1: was sitting in a vehicle by himself at a construction

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Speaker 1: site last month. Deputy approached him, said he was wearing

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Speaker 1: a red lace bra with prosthetic silicon breasts. Poul County

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Speaker 1: Sheriff Grady Judd said, then we noticed he was wearing

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Speaker 1: a g string showing off showing off of the boys,

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Speaker 1: you know what I means? Yeah, I do know what

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Speaker 1: you mean, Sheriff. He explained that it's hard to know

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Speaker 1: how dangerous these situations are because under the prosthesis, deputies

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Speaker 1: again found a gun. Sheriff claimed that Zacharen was going

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Speaker 1: to a cup he was packing. That is correct phrasing.

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Speaker 1: According to the sheriff, Zacharyena claimed he was going to

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Speaker 1: a costume party. When debities asked where the party was,

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Speaker 1: that's when he stopped talking. Jud said, can you imagine

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Speaker 1: he's mad at us for trying to find out why

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Speaker 1: he's wearing lace bras with guns and g strings or

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Speaker 1: g somethings. It was ugly. It was so ugly. I

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Speaker 1: guess since he doubled down on the ugly statement, it

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Speaker 1: must have really been ugly. Charged with armed trespassing with

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Speaker 1: a firearm, loitering or prowling and resisting an Ah, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of feces without violence. Where did that one

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Speaker 1: come from? Joe? That was that was a button bump,

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Speaker 1: button bump bump. Okay, okay, we have an update on

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Speaker 1: the story that you printed on than the man with

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Speaker 1: a sword, Joe, they got him. We got a yipseil

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Speaker 1: a in Michigan, where the standoff ended last night after

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Speaker 1: a man barricaded himself inside a home with a sword

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Speaker 1: for more than thirty hours. Police were to stale mate

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Speaker 1: with the fifty three year old man on West Cross Street,

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Speaker 1: believed to be armed with the sword and hiding in

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Speaker 1: an attic. They used flash bangs, tear gas, loud speaker

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Speaker 1: police worked to get him out peacefully. The incident ended

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Speaker 1: at ten thirty pm last night after he was taken

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Speaker 1: it to custody without anyone being hurt. According to the

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Speaker 1: Westenaw County Crisis negotiators flanked by SWAT team members worked

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Speaker 1: since two thirty pm Sunday to get the man outside

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Speaker 1: safely after charging ipsilan the officers with a sword in

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Speaker 1: one hand phrasing and a stick in the other phrasing.

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Speaker 1: Initial call came after twelve thirty pm Sunday, Please say

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Speaker 1: the man tried getting into a neighbor's home. Officers went

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Speaker 1: to his West Cross Street home's door, where the man

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Speaker 1: allegedly confronted police holding the weapons. Concerned neighbor, who didn't

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Speaker 1: want to be a names, speaking with local news seven there,

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Speaker 1: said that the man practices martial arts and that his

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Speaker 1: mother in law lives on the first floor of the home.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he lives with his mother. Neighbors said he

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Speaker 1: was having a really hard week and a wellness check

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Speaker 1: was called, and it's managed to escalate into basically a

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Speaker 1: high highly militarized situation. The squad has taken over our

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Speaker 1: block and occupied it and created this perimeter and has

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Speaker 1: maintained police believe. Says he kept popping in and out

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Speaker 1: of the homes attic but didn't know the home's exact footprint.

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Speaker 1: Don't understand that quite The Ipsilanti Police said the officers

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Speaker 1: were called to his home at least one other time

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Speaker 1: in the forty eight hours preceding the incident, but they

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Speaker 2: Stick phrasing.

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Speaker 1: M See how about this United States Postal System driver

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Speaker 1: in Florida now facing criminal charges for quote, trying to

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Speaker 1: run over a ten year old close quote after seeing

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Speaker 1: the child riding a scooter with a package that he

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Speaker 1: had just delivered. Boy was bringing the package to a

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Speaker 1: neighbor's house after he was dropped off at his home

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Speaker 1: by accident. According to officials, what the hell Florida Highway

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Speaker 1: betrol Captain Jason King, speaking of local news, this isn't

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Speaker 1: just a simple OOPS crash with a ten year old

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Speaker 1: on the road. This is an intentional act by a

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Speaker 1: United States Postal worker. Forty one year old William White

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Speaker 1: Junior accused of trying to hit the ten year old

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Speaker 1: when he was riding a scooter again with the package,

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Speaker 1: on Kingfisher Way near his home. Police report states White

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Speaker 1: dropped the package off of the wrong address. The child,

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Speaker 1: whose family owns that residence, saw the package was meant

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Speaker 1: for a different address. The child then grabbed the package

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Speaker 1: placed it on his electric scooter to take to the

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Speaker 1: correct address. White allegedly saw the boy with the package

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Speaker 1: thought he was attempting to steal it. He quote purposefully

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Speaker 1: drove the USPS vehicle toward the child and ran over

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Speaker 1: the scooter. Well it's quote that's in the arrest report,

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Speaker 1: narrowly missing the boy and causing him to injure his ankle.

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Speaker 1: I tried to get out of the way. According to

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Speaker 1: the police report, the child was able to get into

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Speaker 1: the nearby yard prior to the scooter being hit. White

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Speaker 1: started driving away while the boy's parents came outside to

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Speaker 1: confront him. He allegedly yelled at the boy before leaving

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Speaker 1: White question about the incident. Several days later, arrested for

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Speaker 1: aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, petty theft, and criminal mischief.

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Speaker 4: There's no bigger douce than you. You've reached the top,

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Speaker 1: One story I did not get to and kind of

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Speaker 1: scratching my head over at Jes Strecker the recipe for

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Speaker 1: the porn Star martini. That's the entirety of the article.

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Speaker 1: Porn Star Martini serves one prep time, cook time and

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Speaker 1: the ingredients. That's it. I'm not going to read your comment, Joe,

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Speaker 1: what plenty to talk about the six o'clock hour. Feel

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Speaker 1: free to call love hearing from listeners because nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to talk to me today. That's okay. We got stories

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Speaker 1: going on in the world. To be right back.

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Speaker 2: Today's top headlines coming.

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Speaker 1: Up at the top. But then see you just am talkstation.

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Speaker 1: It's six oh five fifty five k RCD talk station

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Speaker 1: by Thomas here. Wishing will be in a very happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Listener lunch tomorrow. Hope to see a mad Tree Summit

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Speaker 1: Park location, Blue Ash. It's gonna be good least I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a good time. If I show

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Speaker 1: an ice cold beer, I guess it'll be a good time,

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Speaker 1: but I'd be missing out on the fellowship, which I

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Speaker 2: Love to see you.

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Speaker 1: Always interested in talking to Tom's Awastowski. It has been

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Speaker 1: a while. It'll be one hour from now. He'll be back.

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Speaker 1: We the People Convention dot orgs this website. We have

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Speaker 1: some state topics to talk about, including property tax issues,

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Speaker 1: the Ohio Minnesota, Somali daycare fraud issue, plus VI Bake

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Speaker 1: If Jay's out there, Hey, I just said the fraud word.

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Speaker 1: Usually the phone lights up immediately. Joe and I were

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Speaker 1: just talking about here in the state of Ohio. Love

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Speaker 1: you Jay. In studio Common Please Judge Christopher McDowell well

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Speaker 1: recently had his life and his family's life threatened by

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Speaker 1: defendant going back to social media, among other things, this

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Speaker 1: powerful influencing force that too many people pay attention to.

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming him. I don't know where the threat

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Speaker 1: came from, obviously one of the defendants in his courtroom,

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Speaker 1: but illustrating a broader problem we have. How do you

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Speaker 1: impose our enforced laws? How do you keep the peace?

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Speaker 1: How do you well get your politicians to act on

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Speaker 1: behalf of the American people generally when they're under constant

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Speaker 1: threat from random people around the globe. What do you

646
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: take seriously? And what do you not take seriously? What

647
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: do he takes seriously? What do you ignore? Good luck

648
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: sorting that one out in this crazy world we live in.

649
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Inside Scoop Breitbart News. Caleb Caruza, he escaped Venezuela. He's

650
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: a writer for Breitbart, so a former native of Venezuela,

651
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: not an exile. Now he's living a free life. But

652
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: he'll be talking about what's obviously going on in Venezuela

653
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: and what's to come. And I note, with very very

654
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: great interest and curiosity, how long do you think Cuba's

655
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: gonna be around? Venezuela? Was the practically exclusive lifeline for Cuba.

656
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: They are out of oil in essence. So with Venezuela

657
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: and oil supplies cut off, Cuba is just on I

658
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: don't even can call it on life support. Donald Trump

659
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: says he doesn't even have to worry about invading Cuba.

660
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Speaker 1: We're not gonna do a bay of pigs. It's just

661
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: gonna fall apart on its own. I just feel sorry

662
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: for the Cuban citizens. Not really within your hands to

663
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: change your future when you live in an oppressive regime

664
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Speaker 1: that regularly prosecutes and often murders the political opposition.

665
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Speaker 2: So and after that.

666
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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis Deep Dive. We did get a special edition

667
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Speaker 1: of Daniel Davis Deep Dive on Venezuela yesterday. We're going

668
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Speaker 1: to continue that conversation today at eight thirty with retired

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Speaker 1: lieutenant Colonel. If you didn't get a chance to listen

670
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Speaker 1: to what Daniel had to say yesterday, check it out

671
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Speaker 1: on the podcast page fifty five cars dot com, where

672
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Speaker 1: you can also hear my conversation with Christopher Smitheman out Man.

673
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: He was really on fire yesterday. Police Chief Scott Hughes

674
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: as well as Andre Ewing All talking about violence in

675
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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati. Of course, the murder of that

676
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: eleven year old girl on the West End was just

677
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: a tragedy that we just cannot explain or understand. But

678
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: it also reveals a lot of the faults we have

679
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: with the City of Cincinnati and how it is run

680
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: and governed. Going back to the whole what in the

681
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: hell is the story on the security cameras in the

682
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Speaker 1: West End. If you read Scott Wartman's reporting over at

683
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: the enquire no one seems to really know. Apparently you

684
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: got to check with Duke Ennergy before put a security

685
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: camera on a utility poll. They say they haven't even

686
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: got any requests from the city. The promise for cameras

687
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: on the West End made a couple of years ago. Now, yeah,

688
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Speaker 1: let's go to the phones real quick. Here see what Cj'scott. CJ,

689
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Appreciate you keeping me company.

690
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Oh, thank you, and happy New Year to you.

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Speaker 7: Brian.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man.

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Speaker 5: I hope Brian your law license is still active. It

695
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 5: is well because there might need to be a for

696
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 5: prosecutors across the country for fraud.

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Speaker 6: There is so much fun.

698
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Speaker 5: I was watching a report this morning from a guy

699
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: in San Diego twenty four million dollars and all he

700
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 5: does is walk in and get a new certificate for

701
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 5: a new daycare in a new building that he just rents.

702
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 5: And now he's got twenty four million dollars driving around

703
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Speaker 5: in a Rolls Royce.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that is a fake YouTube thing

705
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 6: or what. But the reality is is that satire has

706
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 6: to have an element of truth behind it. And all

707
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 6: of these guys are out there running around and there

708
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 6: is so much fraud that I don't think we have

709
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Speaker 6: enough investigators. I don't think we have enough prosecutors to

710
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Speaker 6: root this out.

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Speaker 5: The only way you are going to root it out

712
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Speaker 5: is by cutting some of these programs and stop the spending.

713
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Speaker 5: But guess what, no Democrat and most Republicans, about ninety

714
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 5: percent of them, will not root it out because they

715
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 5: don't want to see their name on the nightly news

716
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 5: or on some TikTok video next to some four made

717
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 5: up AI kids who can't eat.

718
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Speaker 6: And that's the problem we have. We have so much

719
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 6: money in the system. It is much easier to.

720
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Speaker 5: Be fraudulent and to do the wrong thing than it

721
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Speaker 5: is to do the right thing. And as Adam Smith

722
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Speaker 5: said a long time ago. Eventually the invisible hand is

723
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 5: going to get you, because only wealth will only follow

724
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Speaker 5: those who are moral.

725
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Speaker 1: I agree with all of that, and you're right. I mean,

726
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: even happens locally. We've been talking about this for a

727
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: long time. A lot of money handpicked nngos out in

728
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: the Greater Cincinnati area promising to do some altruistic work

729
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: needed by the city. Oh my god, we need a

730
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Speaker 1: program for this. We need a program for that. So

731
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Speaker 1: they allocate hundreds of thousands of dollars here, Give this

732
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Speaker 1: group that money, Give group that money. This is how

733
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: you end up putting money out of the world. Maybe

734
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: they're doing the work, maybe they're not. But there's never

735
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Speaker 1: any follow up. There's no report saying, yes, we gave

736
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars to this organization for the purpose

737
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: of doing filling the blank some altruistic thing. It either

738
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: worked or it didn't. We don't have any results to

739
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: show for it. This invites fraud abuse. If no one's

740
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: going to follow up on what you're doing with the

741
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: taxpayer money, why would you bother lifting a finger to

742
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: do anything to accomplish the goal you promised to accomplish.

743
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: You're right, way too much money and there's no built

744
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: in preventative measures. That's what I was thinking the other day,

745
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: and I've even commented on it regularly, you know's we

746
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: talked to Dave Hatter. The first and foremost priority for

747
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: a software developer should be security. Start with security and

748
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: then work out from there. But they don't care about that.

749
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Speaker 1: They want to give you a functioning product and they

750
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: ignore security for that. It's the same thing. Oh my god,

751
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: children are starving. We need billions of dollars to throw

752
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: at a program. Did you put anything in there which

753
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: prevents the idea of some idiot just signing up for

754
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: it and getting it without even proving that he or

755
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: she has maybe a Social Security number or legitimate business purpose,

756
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: isn't an illegal immigrant or alien or someone. I mean,

757
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: there's got to be checks and bounds is put in

758
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: and to stop it from going out the door in

759
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: the first place. And if those kinds of checks and

760
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: bounces existed in Minnesota, for example, or maybe even here

761
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: in Ohio, maybe we would get ahead of that and

762
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have to worry about it as much. Was it?

763
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Speaker 1: The wine said, You know, well, you know, yeah, there's fraud,

764
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: but that comes that's the cost of these programs. Does

765
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: it have to be I mean, you all complained about

766
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: being short on money and short on resources, and we

767
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: need more money. We don't have enough money to fund

768
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,959
Speaker 1: all the programs we want. Well, how about funding people

769
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: who are preventing the fraud, waste, and abuse to the

770
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Speaker 1: point where you might be able to save billions of

771
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: dollars from going out into the world fraudulently. There's money

772
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: that you don't have to worry about making up with

773
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: additional tax dollars. Hey, there's an idea govern of wine

774
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: here on the Somali daycare thing, pushing back against these

775
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: claims that these states Smali run day cares of defunding

776
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: the public. This isn't about Somalians, and this is how

777
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: the left traps politicians who are afraid of their own

778
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: shadow if it happens to involve the Somali community, and

779
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: it pretty much damn well did in Minnesota. It isn't

780
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: a racist thing to point out that the Somali community,

781
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: tight knit as they are, and a lot of them

782
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota. State of Minnesota, the largest Somali community,

783
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Speaker 1: I think in the United States are the second largest. No,

784
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: we have the second largest. But they're all part of

785
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: the same community. They're friends with each other, they live

786
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,479
Speaker 1: next to each other, they're family together. I guess word

787
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: gets around. It's pretty easy to rip the government off.

788
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Speaker 1: So this isn't about the color of their skin, their religion,

789
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: their country of origin. It just happens to be that

790
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: Somali's in this particular case, we're engaged in widespread fraud,

791
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: the abuse, to the tune of their thinking, as much

792
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: as nine billion dollars one state, basically one program. Isn't

793
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: the point going after the fraud, waste and abuse. But no, no, no,

794
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: you're you're you're a racist. No, I'm a taxpayer. If

795
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: invaders from the planet Remulac came in and started abusing

796
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: the taxpayer dollars and committed fraud, waste and abuse and

797
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: all these crimes, we go after them. Would it be

798
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: racist to go after the Remulacans? Fictitious as they are,

799
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. So don't cower in the face of

800
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: this claim. Oh you're just being right. No you're not.

801
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: It's a coordinated effort anyway. Governor Wine said yesterday, we

802
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: are as vigilant as we can about fraud. This on

803
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: the heels of at least some social media accounts alleging

804
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: that smally owned daycare centers here in Columbus have been

805
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: receiving public dollars without providing services to kids. Out We've

806
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: got these citizen journalists going out there. Nick Shirley was

807
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: one of them, and he is getting a world of

808
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: heat online. Leftists are coming after me. Why because he

809
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: exposed Minnesota fraud. If you're really concerned about the Somali

810
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: community of Minnesota, if you really believe that these young

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Speaker 1: kids need daycare, and they need education and training and

812
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: all that, and you find out that they're going out

813
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: and buying expensive cars and real estate and funding terrorist

814
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: organizations with the taxpayer dollars that you, in your altruistic

815
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: heart and your you know but where your bleeding heart whatever,

816
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: think that this money should go to the kids. You

817
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: should be as angry as anybody else that they're getting

818
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: ripped off. Nick Shirley, I think something like this would

819
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: be fraud is bad, But no, now people are coming

820
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: after me for exposing fraud. And who are all those people?

821
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: They're leftist? He said, And it's just a moment where

822
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: they could have really been like, Okay, you guys, let's

823
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: come together, let's tell everyone fraud is bad. Let's crack

824
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: down on the fraud. Instead, they come after the person

825
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: who's exposing the fraud. Yeah, shoot the messenger. And this

826
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: is a profoundly chilling effect on those who let social

827
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Speaker 1: media commentary rule their lives. Going back again to that

828
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Speaker 1: vv Ramaswami article, it's a really important read for you.

829
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: If you're going to be impacted by what random people

830
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: out in the world, literally anywhere in the world say

831
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: about you, or how they analyze what you are doing,

832
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: accusing you of racism when no, you're just trying to

833
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: stop fraud from happening, then you're going to be bothered

834
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: when you're not going to be rather inclined to be

835
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: like Nick Shirley and try to reveal it and do

836
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: what you can to well out it. To be a whistleblower.

837
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going to step up for the plate. It's

838
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: like neighborhoods that are over ridden with crime. I'm not

839
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: going to be the one ratting the guys out. I

840
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: don't want to have the crosshairs focused at me. I'm

841
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: not going to be that guy. You're frightened into submission

842
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: and then the problem just festers even more. But here

843
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: in Ohio, courting the governor anyway, we're as vigilant as

844
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: we can be about fraud. Representative Josh Williams, one with

845
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: forty other representatives, sent a letter to the Dwine administration

846
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: asking them to investigate what has been exposed. He claims

847
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: to Wine that the Department of Children Youths has extensive

848
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: steps to prevent frauds, such as paying by attendance of children,

849
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: not the initial enrollment number, audits and surprise visits good

850
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: according to Governor to Wine quote, does fraud occur? Yes,

851
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: fraud occurs. Our job is to do everything we can.

852
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: No fraud is acceptable. Okay. Some have identified a lot

853
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: of areas of government here in the state of Ohio

854
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: that seemed to be overrun with fraud, waste, and abuse.

855
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Speaker 1: Six eighteen fifty five KRC the talk station Plumbtiye, Plumbing's

856
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Speaker 1: always plumbing done right with my friend six three here

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRCE the talk station. At seven o'clock hour,

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Speaker 1: toms Awastowski returns and one of the things he will

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Speaker 1: be talking about maybe the daycare fraud here in the

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Speaker 1: state of Ohio. I guess it's the end of the

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Speaker 1: career of Democratic Governor Tim Watson Minnesota, he announced yesterday,

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Speaker 1: dropping out of his bid for a third term as

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Speaker 1: governor amid stinging criticism over his massive fraud in the

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Speaker 1: state of Minnesota. Here's his statement. And you remember, many

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Speaker 1: people have already pleaded guilty to the c times that

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Speaker 1: have been alleged, and a whole truckload of people have

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Speaker 1: been indicted for criminal behavior relating to this fraud. So

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Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of legal action that's yet to come,

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Speaker 1: and a whole lot more people are going to get

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Speaker 1: prosecuted for this. So this is an ongoing investigation, and

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Speaker 1: the more we find out, the worse it looks for

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Speaker 1: most notably a guy like Governor Waltson Minnesota, who this

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Speaker 1: happened under his leadership. His quote, the political gamesmanship we're

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Speaker 1: seeing from Republicans is only making that fight harder to win,

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Speaker 1: referring to his good natorial race, I guess what political gamesmanship. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that out loud, Joe, he said,

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Speaker 1: but as I reflected on this moment with my family

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Speaker 1: and my team over the holidays, I came to the

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Speaker 1: conclusion that I can't give a political campaign my all.

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Speaker 1: Every minute I spend defending my own political interests would

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Speaker 1: be a minute I can't spend defending the people of

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Speaker 1: Minnesota against the criminals who prey on our generosity and

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Speaker 1: the syning superanter differences. Hmm, there's a whole lot to

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Speaker 1: wun package in there. I suppose he wouldn't have to

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Speaker 1: worry about defending his political interest if he was successful

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Speaker 1: in avoiding fraud, wasted abuse in the programs that he's

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Speaker 1: responsible for in the first place. He could be campaigning

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Speaker 1: on that. Look at all I did to prevent fraud,

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Speaker 1: waste and abuse. You know it will be billions of

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Speaker 1: dollars in taxpayer ripoffs if it wasn't for me and

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Speaker 1: my efficient administration. See, he can't say that. And who

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Speaker 1: thinks that he was woodshdded recently by the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 1: And here's one for you, maybe, Maureen, because Kevin McCarthy commented, well,

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota's entire Democrat administration should be resigning over this

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Speaker 1: fraud scandally. So this is not the end of the story.

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Speaker 1: Waltz is trying to leave because he could not win

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Speaker 1: I think the entire Democrat administration is going to have

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Speaker 1: to resign because this will not be the end. Amid

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Speaker 1: swirling suggestions alleging that Democrats were using the money to

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Speaker 1: fund their campaigns, similar allegations, although yet to be proven,

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Speaker 1: with regard to a lot of the NGOs that are

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Speaker 1: funded by the City Council and city government here in

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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati. Follow the money and does anybody

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Speaker 1: think that ultimately the money trail will lead to these politicians?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be an interesting revelation? Six twenty six fifty

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Speaker 1: two could you five KR City Talk Station, Very Happy

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Speaker 1: Tuesday to you. Tom's Austoff People Convention dot Org joins

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Speaker 1: the program at seven oh five talk about some state topics.

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Speaker 1: We hear from Common Police Judge Christopher McDowell threatened he

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Speaker 1: and his family threatened by a defendant. Frightening stuff. There

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Speaker 1: inside scoop with Kleb Caruso, former Venezuela and resident currently

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Speaker 1: as well. Apparently it sucked. He got out Daniel Davis

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Speaker 1: steep dive. Also in the latest from Venezuela plus rushing

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Speaker 1: Ukraine apparently still fighting. It was good hearing from him

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Speaker 1: yesterday and got a quick update on Venezuela. So if

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Speaker 1: he didn't get a chance to listen to that one,

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Speaker 1: that would be at fifty five carecy dot com encourage

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Speaker 1: you get your iHeartMedia app WHI you're there? I won't

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Speaker 1: you do that? Can streme the content wherever you happen

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Speaker 1: to be? Hamilon County prosecutors decided they will not be

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Speaker 1: pursuing the death penalty against the guy that killed the deputy.

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Speaker 1: Remember May twenty twenty five, Rodney Hinton totally innocent deputy

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Speaker 1: run over by Rodney Hinton. Well, what they determine is

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Speaker 1: that he has serious mental illness and that would disqualify

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Speaker 1: him from receiving the death penalty under Ohio law. This

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Speaker 1: after testimony from a courted pointed psychologist to determine that

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Speaker 1: his mental illness impairs his rational judgment, along with two

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Speaker 1: other medical professionals who agreed with that assessment. Fox nineteen

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Speaker 1: Matt Schaeffer, thank you for reporting credit where credits do.

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Speaker 1: At least we still have some local reporting. Hinton's attorney,

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Speaker 1: Clyde Bennett said, we had an agreement by the State

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Speaker 1: of Ohio that that mister Hinton did, in fact have

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Speaker 1: and that mental illness impaired his sense of judgment. He

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Speaker 1: was not in his right mind. That I've said that

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Speaker 1: since day one, so I'm very pleased with the stipulation.

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Speaker 1: Now the prosecutors and the defense agreed to this conclusion.

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Speaker 1: So this seems to be a foregone conclusion that he

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Speaker 1: is not going to get the dent On death penalty,

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Speaker 1: but it's pointed out that Judge Jodi Lubers is going

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Speaker 1: to need a review and accept that stipulation. Before the

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Speaker 1: death penalty, we had dropped corn at Hamilton County Prosecutor

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Speaker 1: County Pillage says, what we've done in our negotiation. We've

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Speaker 1: talked to Laurie Henderson, who's the widow of the victim

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Speaker 1: in this matter. We've spoken to several her several times

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Speaker 1: and her children. While not totally in agreement, they understand

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Speaker 1: the reasoning for doing this. We've also consulted with the

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Speaker 1: Sheriff's department. Deputy Henderson was employed with the Department's detail

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Speaker 1: that day. They've been advised and they understand why we're

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Speaker 1: doing this as well. So if accepted, Hinton could be

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Speaker 1: re arraigned on non capital charges or face life in

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Speaker 1: prison without p role. Likely going to be pleading not

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Speaker 1: guilty by reason of insanity. Kay, it goes without saying, doesn't.

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Speaker 1: So back to the allegations of fraud of Minnesota, we

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Speaker 1: know about that, but as people have been convicted, many

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Speaker 1: people have been are under prosecution. TikTok here in Ohio

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Speaker 1: talking about this Somali Minister of Foreign Affairs Abda Salaam Ali,

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Speaker 1: who apparently owned a homecare health company here in the

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Speaker 1: state of Ohio. The claim has now gone viral, as

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Speaker 1: you might imagine, been reported in the past that Ali

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Speaker 1: owned Right Choice Healthcare services in Ohio. Made twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five article from the Somali based publication Somaliland Chronicle. Joe,

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Speaker 1: you still receiving the Somali Land Chronicle electronic or paper

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Speaker 1: paper anyway. It was an article about Somali citizen about

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Speaker 1: US citizens serving in Somali's federal government. Stated that this

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Speaker 1: guy previously built a healthcare business in Ohio, specifically Right

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Speaker 1: Choice Healthcare Services LLC. Records from Ohio State Secretary of

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Speaker 1: State's office going back to two thousand and nine reviewed

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Speaker 1: by Newsweek also lists Ali as a business owner. His

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Speaker 1: official biography with the Somalian Ministry of Foreign Affairs says

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Speaker 1: that he has a bachelor's degree in healthcare business administration

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Speaker 1: from the University of Toledo, and he touted his experience

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Speaker 1: as a founder of a healthcare business, though it did

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Speaker 1: not mention right choice by name. Accord to his biography,

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Speaker 1: before entering public sector, his Excellency, Honorable Abdi Salam Ali

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Speaker 1: established a successful career in the private sector, founding this

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Speaker 1: successful healthcare enterprise. There's been no evidence presented that his

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Speaker 1: business has been impacted by or implicated in fraud. Carently

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Speaker 1: the business does not still appear to be operational in

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Speaker 1: the URL for their website is now defunct. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: Governor Wine getting ahead of fraud or getting behind it,

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Speaker 1: don't know. You can chime in if you'd like six

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Speaker 1: thirty six good you five ARCD talk station Happy Tuesday

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Speaker 1: five one three seven eight hundred eighty two three talk

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Speaker 1: at pound five fifty if you have an AT and

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Speaker 1: T phone, over to the phones. We go Happy New Year,

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Speaker 1: Mississippi James. Welcome back to the morning show.

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Speaker 7: Sir, All right doing okay?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 7: I come in peace, love everybody. There's nothing you can

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Speaker 7: do about it.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 7: Hey man. We got we got waste, fraud and abuse

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Speaker 7: all over the place. Yes, sir, I will ever get

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Speaker 7: our hands wrapped around this from both sides.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, ideally, Mississippi James, if our elected officials

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Speaker 1: owed us, like maybe your financial leonard, a fiduciary obligation

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Speaker 1: and ethical legal obligation to treat your taxpayer dollars with

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Speaker 1: the utmost respect that they deserve, and they could be

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Speaker 1: held accountable for not doing so, maybe we could do

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Speaker 1: something about it. But since they don't care, they collect

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Speaker 1: as much as they want, they have a printing press

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Speaker 1: to print off more than they collect. They don't give

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Speaker 1: a crap. It just goes out into the world. They

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Speaker 1: can say they did something because look, we started an MNGO,

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Speaker 1: we're funding the program. The problem is solved. No, the

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Speaker 1: problem's not solved, and you're not wan minding the store

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Speaker 1: with them where the money is going. But they don't.

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Speaker 7: So we got to come together as the little people

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00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 7: to start from the bottom. Again, work all way up.

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Speaker 7: We need all hands on date to put pressure on them, yeah,

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Speaker 7: you know, to challenge them out. Woun't it vote right?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 7: And that's the only source we got loan as a vote.

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Speaker 1: Stay in you know, well, James, you know the problem

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Speaker 1: with that, and you are right, and I'm a firm

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Speaker 1: believer in that. And you know, as many times in

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Speaker 1: the past I've suggested, why do we need term limits

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Speaker 1: when you and I have the ability to term limit

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Speaker 1: any politician by just not voting them back into office.

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Speaker 1: People don't pay attention, James, You pay attention. I try

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Speaker 1: to pay attention because this is what I do for

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Speaker 1: a living. You know, I call us weed dwellers. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, one in four people who are registered

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Speaker 1: to vote in the city of Cincinnati bothered to show

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Speaker 1: up to vote. How do you expect change when so

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Speaker 1: many people aren't even motivated to cast a vote, And

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Speaker 1: when they do cast to vote, quite often they're not

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Speaker 1: even paying attention to who they're voting for. They've just

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Speaker 1: brainwashed by this ideological obsession that if I am filling

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Speaker 1: the blank type of person, I must vote for Democrats

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Speaker 1: or Republicans. And they just go down the red car

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Speaker 1: or the pink slip or the blue slip. Vote who

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Speaker 1: for whoever? It is quite often an incumbent, and we

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Speaker 1: get the status quo, like the most recent election here

1039
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Speaker 1: in the city. But if you bother to look at

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Speaker 1: the details of what any given politician has done or

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Speaker 1: refuses to do, then you might consider a different path. Sadly,

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Speaker 1: we've got binge watching, we've got Netflix, we've got all

1043
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Speaker 1: kinds distractions, we've got social media. We have lives to live,

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Speaker 1: we have families to raise, and who in the hell

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Speaker 1: has any time to watch even a half hour segment

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Speaker 1: on the news where you get nothing more than a

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Speaker 1: sound bite, most of which has to do with access

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Speaker 1: Hollywood type crap.

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Speaker 2: I agree, and I agree, I give.

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Speaker 1: That sorry summary of the state of affairs. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, talk about it enough, you get people waking

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01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: up enough, and you get enough of this fraud, wasting,

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Speaker 1: abuse exposed. This is everybody, of all political stripes, money

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Speaker 1: that is being wasted and stolen. To say, is that

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Speaker 1: an issue that bears a political stripe?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 7: And you know, right here in my hometown of Meridia, Mississippi,

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Speaker 7: and I tell them we've been on the bottom so long,

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Speaker 7: there's nowhere to go. But uh so, let's start working

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Speaker 7: together and projectile this thing up. And I even tell them, hey,

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Speaker 7: Maridi can be the template for Mississippi, and Mississippi can

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Speaker 7: be the template for the United States if we build

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Speaker 7: this thing in the proper way and projectile it up.

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Speaker 7: I call it the sling shot and the board. Now

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Speaker 7: it's been stretched back so far. Now we let it

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Speaker 7: go in the right direction and we can make Meridian

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Speaker 7: great for everybody for the first time. I may seem

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Speaker 7: to listen not much action, but they conversation is being

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Speaker 7: put there.

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Speaker 1: That's where it starts. James, you're the kind of guy

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Speaker 1: that goes out in the community. We've talked about this before.

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Speaker 1: You are an active person. You want to change the

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Speaker 1: course of your neighborhood and your community. And if people

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Speaker 1: start talking about it, we'll call that phase one. After

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Speaker 1: talk and discussion comes action. But if you don't start

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Speaker 1: having that conversation and raising that awareness to where people

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Speaker 1: actually consider it a legitimate thing to be talking about

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Speaker 1: and a legitimate concern, whatever it happens to be, then

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Speaker 1: it's never going to happen. So I applaud your efforts

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Speaker 1: and I applaud your optimism, and I hope someday you

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Speaker 1: and I'll be having a conversation about the Wall Street

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Speaker 1: Journal article about Meridian and it's miraculous recovery after years

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Speaker 1: of well be him on the bottom of the pile.

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Speaker 1: Someday we'll have that conversation, James, with people like you

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Speaker 1: working on it. It could very well happen. You just

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Speaker 1: got to get people engaged like you are. God bless you, sir,

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Speaker 1: and a happy New Year to you and your bride,

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Speaker 1: and I look forward to seeing you at lunch sometime

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Speaker 1: this summer when you come back to town six forty

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Speaker 1: six at fifty five care see the talk station. Another year,

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Speaker 1: another opportunity to save money, be more comfortable. And I'm

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Speaker 1: still reeling over my duke energy bill. Has anybody else

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Speaker 1: gone through the roof of their energy bill station? And

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Speaker 1: Tom's Awastowski after the top of the air news, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I try to get this in with the risk of

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Speaker 1: hopefully not running over. I will read a little bit

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Speaker 1: more quickly, but Viva gramas so I've been talking about

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Speaker 1: his social media is a Trap for Politicians article, and

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Speaker 1: it's a wonderful summary about why maybe you should ignore

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Speaker 1: the crap that's going on there, and a message to

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Speaker 1: all politicians don't be influenced by it.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 1: So when I'm in Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney during

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Speaker 1: her visit to the US in July twenty four, she

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Speaker 1: told me she never reads or watches news because she

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Speaker 1: doesn't want the media to influence her approach to governing. Instead,

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Speaker 1: she travels her country and hears directly from citizens. What

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Speaker 1: a beautiful idea, my vdk ramaswam. He's near resolutioner to

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Speaker 1: do something similar. I plan to become a social media teetotaler.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six, a New Year's Eve, I deleted

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Speaker 1: x and Instagram from my phone. I spent my newfound

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Speaker 1: time listening to more voters in real world Ohio, developing

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Speaker 1: more policies to make our state affordable, and being more

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Speaker 1: present with my family. I predicted any of my consumption

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Speaker 1: of social media will make me a better leader and

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Speaker 1: a happier man. Amen to the latter comment, my campaign

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Speaker 1: team will still use social media to distribute messages and

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Speaker 1: videos on my behalf, but I won't browse any of

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Speaker 1: it myself. There's a fine line between using the Internet

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Speaker 1: to distribute your message and inadvertently allowing constant Internet feedback

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Speaker 1: to alter your message. That isn't using social media, it's

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Speaker 1: letting social media use you. As suddenly ran a digitally

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Speaker 1: centered campaign for president. I've seen this effect firsthand on

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Speaker 1: myself and my competitors. Politicians want to respond to voters,

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Speaker 1: and rightly so, but polls are expensive and infrequent. Social

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Speaker 1: media offers a tempting alternative, free, abundant, real time feedback.

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Speaker 1: It creates the impression that you're hearing directly from the

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Speaker 1: people and responding in kind. Modern social media is increasingly

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Speaker 1: disconnected from the electorate. The messages you're most likely to

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Speaker 1: see are the most negative and bombasted because they're the

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Speaker 1: most likely to receive rapid likes and reposts, and that

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Speaker 1: drives revenue for social media content creators. If you click

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Speaker 1: on one post about a topic, suddenly that viewpoint of

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Speaker 1: fear is everywhere you look, skewing your view of reality.

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Speaker 1: That's harmless. If you're a knitting hobbyist, who might overestimate

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01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: how many fellow citizens know the difference between a knit

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Speaker 1: and a pearl stitch on its own. Random people saying

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Speaker 1: outrageous things on the Internet and even making money money

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Speaker 1: from it isn't a major problem. But when those in

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Speaker 1: power mistake online commentary for real world consensus, they make

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Speaker 1: decisions based on distorted picture of what those citizens really want.

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Speaker 1: You know, as I read that, I'm thinking about this

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Speaker 1: whole idea that a man can claim to be a woman,

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Speaker 1: and we need to just embrace that. That's a very

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Speaker 1: minority opinion. Folks back to him. Worse, the online pulse

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Speaker 1: that politicians glean from social media is increasingly manufactured by

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Speaker 1: foreign actors and non human bots. A recent report revealed

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Speaker 1: that engagement with the X account for the now notorious

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Speaker 1: white nationalist Nick Fuentes shows signs of being quote unusually fast,

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Speaker 1: unusually concentrated, and unusually foreign in origin close quote. Another

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Speaker 1: investigation showed that hundreds of bots drove the pro Democrat

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Speaker 1: hashtag Blue Crew hashtag, amplifying false claims that the assassination

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Speaker 1: attempt on President Trump and Butler PA was staged. Politicians

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Speaker 1: who think they're taking social media cues from US citizens

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Speaker 1: are often mistaken. My experience, attorney Point USA America Fest

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Speaker 1: conference in December was a case in point. Delivered to

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Speaker 1: speech that US is a nation defined above all by ideals,

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Speaker 1: not by shared bloodlines. Based on social media comments beforehand,

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Speaker 1: I expected to be booed you scrolled through them after

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Speaker 1: you believe that's what happened. But in reality, I received

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Speaker 1: the standing ovation from a politically engaged audience of well

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Speaker 1: over twenty thousand attendees. In twenty twenty five, I saw

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Speaker 1: a spate of shocking racial slurs and wars on social media.

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Speaker 1: Yet that same year, I visited tens of thousands of

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Speaker 1: voters across all of Ohio's eighty eight counties, from inner

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Speaker 1: cities to farms, union halls to factories, Republican rallies to

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Speaker 1: one on one discussions with protesters, and I didn't hear

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Speaker 1: a single bigoted remark from an Ohio voter the entire year.

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Speaker 1: Social media's warped projection of reality is reinforced inside modern government.

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Speaker 1: Political staffers on both sides of the aisles skew young

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Speaker 1: and hyper attuned to social media. Twitter was built to

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Speaker 1: imitate real life conversations, but in modern younger political circles,

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Speaker 1: real life conversations are imitating Twitter. As political commentator Rich

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Speaker 1: had Any observed last year, young political aids now complete

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Speaker 1: the most based one upping each other with increasingly unhinged

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Speaker 1: positions on race, sex, and who the good guys were

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Speaker 1: on World War Two. And if you've ever win sid

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Speaker 1: social media post by an official government account, remember the

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Speaker 1: person who wrote it is often a young employee who

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Speaker 1: takes most of his cues from the Internet. Over time,

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Speaker 1: the state itself begins to sound like X sound familiar

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Speaker 1: to anybody. None of this is say citizens shouldn't use

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Speaker 1: social media disway politicians. It's their constitutional right to do so,

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Speaker 1: but it's up to elected leaders to know what they're

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Speaker 1: responding to. Most Ohioans I've met want higher take home pay,

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Speaker 1: lower electric bills here here, and great education that prepares

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Speaker 1: their kids to join the workforce. Yet it's precisely because

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Speaker 1: because these issues are so universal that they're among the

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Speaker 1: least likely to register on social media. Leaders who depend

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Speaker 1: on social media to gauge public opinion are looking through

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Speaker 1: a broken mirror. Thomas Jefferson famously observed the man who

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Speaker 1: never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he

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Speaker 1: who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is

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Speaker 1: nearer to the truth. Yes, traditional media is flawed. Broadcasters

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Speaker 1: push narratives and sensationalism sells on TV and in print,

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Speaker 1: but social media presents a new problem, coordinated influence that

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Speaker 1: hides behind armies of avatars, creating a false impression of

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Speaker 1: grassroots support. Its organic feel, combined with real time feedback loops,

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Speaker 1: makes it effects on elected leaders even more pernicious than

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Speaker 1: other forms of media. Think He's onto something. The result

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Speaker 1: of that, some of the most powerful politicians in America

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Speaker 1: live under constant pressure to please social media, an unenviable

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Speaker 1: confinement that we might call Twitter prison. Real leaders must

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Speaker 1: break free. It's fashionable these days for leaders to complain

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Speaker 1: about the influence of social media on politics but do

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Speaker 1: nothing to fix it. Yet the first step doesn't even

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Speaker 1: require new laws. We just need to practice what we preach.

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Speaker 1: That's easier said than done. My current years resolution resembles

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Speaker 1: past ones. I might be back scrolling X by March,

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Speaker 1: but for now I'm running the experiment, and I invite

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Speaker 1: my fellow Republicans to join me. Who knows it might

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Speaker 1: be the extra X factor that helps us secure victories.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six, speaking volumes, there viviak Ramaswami stick

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Speaker 1: around Tom's Awastowski after the.

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Speaker 3: News Today's top headlines coming up at the top of

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Speaker 3: the hour every day.

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Speaker 1: It's seven oh six, it is Tuesday, and we are

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Speaker 1: going to be hearing from the inside scoop right for

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Speaker 1: our news. Calib caruz I was joining us in an hour.

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Speaker 1: He used to live in Venezuela. He got out and

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Speaker 1: with good reason. He's going to give us an up

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Speaker 1: date in his impressions and thoughts out for what happened

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Speaker 1: the other day in Venezuela. Daniel Davis Deep Dive Volume

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Speaker 1: two from yesterday special edition. We'll hear for him on

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Speaker 1: the latest in Venezuela at eight thirty and right now,

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Speaker 1: the return of Tom z Awastowski. You can find Tom

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Speaker 1: and his organization, We the People Convention dot org right

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Speaker 1: there at We the People Convention dot Org. Tom, it's

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Speaker 1: been a while since we talked. I think the last

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Speaker 1: time you and I talked was with regard to an

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Speaker 1: empower youth summinar. Welcome back, man, Happy new year to you.

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Speaker 9: Well, good morning, Brian. It's so good to be with

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Speaker 9: you and your audience this morning. And happy new Year

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Speaker 9: to everyone, and happy turn and fiftieth birthday to America.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a hell of a year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, and you know, it's really the passage

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Speaker 1: of time. And of course I feel old. I remember

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Speaker 1: when we celebrated the two hundredth and the one thing

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Speaker 1: I do remember is everyone had bells out whenever the

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Speaker 1: declaration or the Declaration of Independence was signed, everyone had

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Speaker 1: bells and rang it. I think it was like two

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Speaker 1: o'clock or something. But that's about all I can remember

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Speaker 1: about the Bisonennial. But this would be a big celebration.

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Speaker 1: I know Donald Trump's planning on pulling out all stops

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Speaker 1: and making a real big issue of it, and I

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Speaker 1: hope maybe this is something that can unite the American people.

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Speaker 1: We certainly are in need of something to unify us.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 9: Brian, I talked on my podcast this week about the

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Speaker 9: fact that we a representative Republic, is not a spectator sport,

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Speaker 9: that's participatory. And this idea that you know, Donald Trump

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Speaker 9: is going to celebrate our turn and fiftieth anniversary.

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Speaker 2: That's just not enough. It's ours.

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Speaker 9: And so I called for everybody to start planning to

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Speaker 9: celebrate in their community, in their little town and their city,

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Speaker 9: in their township and their county, because over two hundred

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Speaker 9: and fifty years, Brian, we have done amazing things, and

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Speaker 9: I think this is going to be a real turning

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Speaker 9: point for our country because for the last twenty five years,

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Speaker 9: thanks to the Marxist left, starting with Barack Obama, our

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Speaker 9: nation has been subject to what's called negative self talk.

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Speaker 9: You stink sure that it's horrible. America is the worst

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Speaker 9: of everything. If we can have a year where we're

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Speaker 9: all talking about all the great things we've done, I

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Speaker 9: think it will bring us together and I think it's

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Speaker 9: going to make our country go off in a different direction.

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Speaker 9: So this is fortuitous, but it's participatory. So don't sit

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Speaker 9: back and just watch Donald Trump. What are you going

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Speaker 9: to do to celebrate our tour and fifth with birthday?

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Speaker 1: Amen to that. I couldn't agree with you more. And

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping we see a lot of maybe veterans organizations

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Speaker 1: getting together planning events, and I just I embrace your

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Speaker 1: optimism for a collective celebration as opposed to a collective condemnation.

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Speaker 1: Going back to viv Ramasamy's article about online social media posts,

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Speaker 1: you get the impression that there's not a single human

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Speaker 1: being in the world beyond you, Tom and me that

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Speaker 1: believes the United States should be proud of its heritage

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Speaker 1: and what we've done in spite of our wards. There

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Speaker 1: isn't a country out there that doesn't have some warts,

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Speaker 1: of course, but you know, we move past those, we

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: grew out of them. We've become better and better and

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Speaker 1: better every year of our existence, and we, through our

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Speaker 1: capitalism and our amazing wealth, have been able to transform

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Speaker 1: so many impoverished worlds and provided them with the benefits

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Speaker 1: of what capitalism can bring. And that's a crazy thing

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Speaker 1: about socialism, Tom. They keep wanting to take the money

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Speaker 1: that's earned by capitalists and it ends up ruining everything.

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Speaker 1: People quit working. What's the point of work if I

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Speaker 1: can enjoy the benefit of my labor without capitalist money.

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Speaker 1: You don't clean up pollution sites, you can't afford windmills,

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Speaker 1: if that's what you want to buy. It's all built

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Speaker 1: on the money created and earned by capitalism.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, and this is going to be part

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Speaker 9: of the discussion, particularly with all the things that are

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Speaker 9: in the big beautiful bill that are going to come

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Speaker 9: to fruition this year.

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Speaker 2: You're going to see capitalism at work.

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Speaker 9: You're going to see you know, what's going to happen

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Speaker 9: with these reshoring of these manufacturing plants, even the Trump

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01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 9: you know, the things for the kids that are being

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 9: born to get the thousand domber of Trump funds where

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Speaker 9: they go into the stock market. Why didn't we do

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01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 9: that like fifty years ago. I mean, you know, it's

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01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 9: just we talked about capitalism, but we've got to teach it.

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01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 9: And instead of teaching it, we've got schools to teach

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01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 9: anti capitalism. We've got to turn this around, Brian.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And they also teach the woke religion that carbon dioxide

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Speaker 1: plant food is killing us all which has ruined our

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Speaker 1: ability to generate electricity in the name of pursuing this religion.

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Speaker 1: Zero carbon, zero carbon one another thing Trump's been able

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Speaker 1: to accomplish. And check out the price of gasoline. Energy

1313
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: prices have fallen. He's all the above on energy policy.

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01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: We have no longer subsidies for windmills that apparently don't

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01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: provide sufficient electricity. I mean, we're just moving in the

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01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: right direction. Maybe this is the year we rid ourselves

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: of that religion and move on to something saner and

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01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: in lo and behold, Tom, I gotta observe. I've been

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01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: a big fan of the concept of small modular reactors.

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: Look what it took artificial intelligence operations to get us

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01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 1: moving in that very sane direction zero carbon output in

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01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: spite of the fact that the green people hated it,

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01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: but yet it produces an abundance of electricity and a

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: very tight look. Bill Gates wants it, So I guess

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01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: we now are in a position and may be able

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Speaker 1: to get it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and way too late. I mean again, this is

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Speaker 9: the sabotaging of America. This is what we're fighting. All

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Speaker 9: of your listeners know this. It's it's not like you know,

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Speaker 9: America just can't get it right. It's that literally, people

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Speaker 9: we elect to represent us, and many of those are

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Speaker 9: stolen elections sabotage us. And it's just like you were

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Speaker 9: talking about with the fraud. And it's not just Somali,

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Speaker 9: as you said, it's this. The fraud is way bigger

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Speaker 9: than anyone can even imagine. It's an all of government problem.

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Speaker 9: But why do we have that problem. Well, it's because

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Speaker 9: there's people in our government who hate America, who who

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 9: hate capitalism, who believe in Marxism because they didn't get

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01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 9: an education, they went to college to get indoctrinated. We

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Speaker 9: the common sense people of America this year are fighting

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Speaker 9: to turn that around and get those people out, and

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Speaker 9: you know it's going to be a hell of a fight.

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Speaker 9: But I think this year is a tipping point. I

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01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 9: think this is the year when we finally win the

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01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 9: war and drive the Marxist out of our government and

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Speaker 9: then out of our country.

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Speaker 2: And let's hope that's the case.

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Speaker 1: I certainly hope that. You know, but even if somebody

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01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: in government doesn't hate America, and I understand that's a

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01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: sinister and real concept that he just brought up. But

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01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: you know, government's almost like an illustration of how socialism

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01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 1: or communism works. You don't have to earn or make money.

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01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: You merely take it, and by taking it and have

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01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: the elite having the legal authority to take it pretty

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01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: much as much as they want. Considering the varying tax

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01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 1: rates we face in our country over the years, do

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01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: you want a seventy five percent tax rate used to be?

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01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: That way, they can take as much as they want.

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01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: They don't have to be accountable. They're not subject to shareholders,

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01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: they're not subject to boards of directors who are looking for,

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01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, to improve the bottom line and to increase

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01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: efficiency and effectively manage the taxpayer. Dollars. We need to

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01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: rise up as taxpayers of all political stripes and demand

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Speaker 1: the end of for example, the fraud illustrated better than

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Speaker 1: anything else. I think I've encountered by what's going on

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's even worse than you just described, because

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01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,480
Speaker 9: think about it. Who works in government, whether it's your township,

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01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 9: your county, our state government. I'm not talking about the

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Speaker 9: elected officials. I'm talking about the people who are there

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 9: shuffling the papers. Most of them came out of college,

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Speaker 9: never work for a business. Do not understand that the

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Speaker 9: money you're handling is you got to be protected because

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Speaker 9: you depend on it.

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Speaker 2: They work in government where the money just shows up.

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Speaker 9: Sam, here's another pile of money, and what's your job. Well,

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01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 9: shovel it out the door as quick as you can

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01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 9: and don't ask any questions, and they get rewarded for that.

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01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 9: We have to start to talk to literally to the

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01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 9: smaller people in government and say, hey, do you understand

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01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 9: your job is to protect our money?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 9: It's your grandparents' money, it's your parents, it's your brother's money,

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01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 9: it's your friend's money.

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Speaker 2: And you're not doing that.

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Speaker 9: You've got to ask the hard questions and don't give

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01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 9: our money away to people who don't deserve it. But

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Speaker 9: that's a cultural thing, Brian, and we've got to start

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01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 9: to change that culture. I think that's what the vek

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01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 9: Ramaswami's talking about. I think that you know, he understands

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Speaker 9: it's a cultural.

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Speaker 1: Problem, truly a cultural problem. Tom's Awastowski, we will continue

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Speaker 1: find his website, We the People Convention dot org. Some

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01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: great stuff there from Tom. We got more to talk

1395
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 1: about it. N If you have KCD talk station, you

1396
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: can find him at we the People Convention dot org.

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01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: Following issues important to well folks like you and me,

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01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 1: Tom z Awastowski joined the program back from a long hiatus.

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Speaker 1: Since you've been on the program, Tom, and I appreciate

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01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: what you're doing day to day. Let's move over to

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01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: Ohio issue specifically. Now we can talk about the state

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01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: of fraud in Ohio. Governor de Wine seems to suggest

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01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: that they do everything humanly possible to prevent fraud and

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01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: abuse in Ohio. I've heard reports to the contrary.

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01:18:59,160 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 7: Tom.

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01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: I guess my dream in life is that going back

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01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: to this sort of concept of a fiduciary obligation of

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01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 1: our politicians owed it to us. With respect to our

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01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars, maybe there could be better accountability, we just

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01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: have to wait around for an election. But all those

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01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes that are responsible for day to

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01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: day accounting for the dollars really don't seem to care either.

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01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: So I'm not quite sure where we are on that.

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01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: But isn't there a mechanism that we can put in place,

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01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,640
Speaker 1: Like within the legislation, fraud avoidance and prevention needs to

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01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: bring priority number one. In order to get any single

1417
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: dollar issue to a human being or organization, you must

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01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: fill in and do all of the following. Information needs

1419
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,680
Speaker 1: to be shared between Social Security and other agencies that

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01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: have the information, so we can determine citizenship, but the

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01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,560
Speaker 1: propriety of Social Security number whatever, But all the frontwork

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01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: could be done to stop it from going out in

1423
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 1: a fraudulent way. Or am I living a pipe dream?

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01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 4: No?

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01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 9: I mean, come on, we do this every day in

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01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 9: our businesses. You know, this is how America works, So

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01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 9: why does it our government work that way? Particularly Brian

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01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 9: with the you know, upcoming AI revolution. How much could

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01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,639
Speaker 9: that help us with all this stuff?

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01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: Right? And and the question is having a will to

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01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 2: do it?

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01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 9: I mean, I go back to things like remember Josh

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01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 9: Bendel had introduced the checkbook program where everybody could report,

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01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 9: you know, they're spending and you can see it online. Right,

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01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 9: Remember that? And guess what happened to that, folks. When

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01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 9: Josh left office. He tried to get it put into legislation,

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01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 9: and they wouldn't do it.

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01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 8: They wouldn't do it.

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01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: It's not the law that they have to.

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01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,799
Speaker 9: You've got to put your finances on you know, the Internet,

1441
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 9: so that any citizen can see what your township is

1442
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 9: spending or your city is spending. That's the problem. We

1443
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,919
Speaker 9: haven't built these tools that can really make a difference.

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01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,719
Speaker 9: And so I think you're going to see some effort

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01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 9: to do that, you know, now that this fraud thing

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01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,600
Speaker 9: is coming up. I mean, Bob Sprague and Favor and

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01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 9: those guys certainly have a lot of explaining to do

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01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,439
Speaker 9: because it's really under them. You know, the Treasurer signs

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01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 9: the checks for these things, and it's responsible for making

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01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 9: sure these people are eligible. And the auditor is the

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01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 9: one who audits it. So two Republicans are right there

1452
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 9: in the middle of it. Let's see what they got.

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01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 9: But they've got to you know, show us the goods.

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01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: Well, as I've observed quite often. You know, republican Ohio

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01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: is a very republican state. You think it wouldn't be

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01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: like hurting cats and Columbus to get people on the

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01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: right path. And yet there seems to be a whole

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01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: lot of infighting and turf battles going on. More it

1459
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: seems to be more important to elected officials than actually

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01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: doing right by the Ohio tax payer. Speaking of taxes,

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01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: what's the thoughts on property taxes. They've been trying to

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01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 1: get some relief for the Ohioans in terms of property

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01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: tax There's a lot of seniors out there that can't

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01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,600
Speaker 1: even stay in their own home even though they own it.

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01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: We got any progress on that one of late time.

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01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been We've got to get this done, Brian,

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01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 2: we just have to. It was egregious what happened.

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01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 9: You know, this reappraisal of all your properties and then

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01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 9: you know you don't have any more money, but I'm

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01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,679
Speaker 9: going to charge you thirty percent more in taxes. That's

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01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 9: just wrong. We've got to fix that. I've been working

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01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 9: with the ax Ohio tax people to try to help them.

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01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 9: I spent probably six months trying to raise money to

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01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 9: help them.

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01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: The problem is the polling.

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01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 9: Shows that people are afraid of a total repeal, and

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01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 9: so we're working now on maybe a more modified idea

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01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 9: of like a roll back and then you know something,

1479
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 9: how about this, Brian, how about at some point you

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01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 9: actually own your home and the government do have't lean

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01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 9: on it, Like whether that's if you pay taxes for

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01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 9: twenty years, you don't have to pay anymore, or something

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01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 9: like that.

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01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 2: We're working on it.

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Speaker 9: I've been talking to the vag about it because I

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01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 9: think we've got to get you know, hopefully the next

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01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 9: governor to buy in on property taxes. And he hasn't

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01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 9: been on that totally. He's got kind of an income

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01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 9: tax guy. He wants to get rid of the income tax.

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01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 9: But we're raking progress. I'm hoping to have some information

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01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 9: on this, you know, in the next couple of weeks,

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Speaker 9: because we have to get it done. And Brian, let

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01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 9: me just take one more second to say, why do

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01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 9: we have to get it done. It's not just about

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01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 9: the cost of your property taxes. The problem for us

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01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 9: in Ohio is our government at every level is out

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01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 9: of control. The money they're spending is just beyond what

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01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 9: the taxpayer can afford.

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:23,719
Speaker 2: And how do you roll it back.

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Speaker 9: You can't roll it back by talking to them. You

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01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 9: can't say, geez, can you cut spending. I think we

1502
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 9: have to have a reset by taking some money from

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01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 9: them to send the message. Listen, you guys got to

1504
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 9: get more efficient. You're going to have to implement AI

1505
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:41,719
Speaker 9: to save us money.

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01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 2: It can't just be more and more and more and more.

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01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: And I think the property tax issue is the way

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01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: we can do that.

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01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree completely, you know, and I have to

1510
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: observe and most people have known this, I've said it

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01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: a million times, and that the school funding mechanism has

1512
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: been ruled unconstitutional like twenty plus years ago go by

1513
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,720
Speaker 1: the Ohio Supreme Court, and yet it still remains the

1514
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: same and in play. So I struggle with that concept.

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01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: And also, since you mentioned about the finite number of dollars,

1516
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: how is it that their elected officials approved six hundred

1517
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: million dollars for the Cleveland Browns. I mean, if you

1518
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: want to talk about an insult to the taxpayer of

1519
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 1: the state of Ohio, that kind of thing really irks

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01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: me and my listening audience.

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01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 2: Well it should I mean again, they're billionaires. Yeah, I

1522
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: mean they can afford their own bloody stadium. What are

1523
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: we doing? And then and then it's hilarious because what

1524
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 2: does the community really get out of it?

1525
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 9: Will they claim all this stuff about you know, your

1526
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 9: restaurants and other activities shut up? Wouldn't you love right

1527
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 9: to be able to start a business and to have

1528
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 9: the state of Ohio pay for your building and all

1529
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 9: your equipment.

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01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great. Let's let's do that. Let's not

1531
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,560
Speaker 2: called capitalism the folks, now, that's some form of socialism.

1532
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 1: I think it is. And that's how green energy companies

1533
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: stay in business. The taxpayers support them.

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01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 2: Right, huh ah, No chance. We got to stop all

1535
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: of this. We're going to We're on the right path.

1536
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: I want people to have hope in this year. I

1537
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 2: want you to really.

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01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 9: People are kind of confused, and this is why, Brian,

1539
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 9: you play such a role. You talked about the whole

1540
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 9: thing about social media. It is so important that people

1541
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 9: have a place to come for truth. Your show is

1542
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 9: more important than ever because we live in a society

1543
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 9: that's based on lies and propaganda.

1544
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 2: That social media, that's all it is.

1545
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 9: You come to listen to Brian Thomas, because he's going

1546
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 9: to give you the truth.

1547
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 2: And that's what we all have to do.

1548
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 9: Don't lie to yourself, don't lie to your spouse, don't

1549
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,520
Speaker 9: lie to your family, don't lie to your fellow citizens.

1550
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 9: We must get back to truth and merit, and if

1551
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 9: we do that, America will be great again.

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01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: God bless you, sir for saying that. It's high praise

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01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: from you, Sir. I truly respect your opinion. It's a

1554
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 1: very kind thing of you to say, and I am

1555
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: blessed be in a position to try to do my

1556
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: part along those lines, and I can only encourage others

1557
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: to get engaged and do the same thing. You gotta

1558
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: have conversations. You have to elevate these issues to something

1559
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: where people start paying attention to it. Because Tom, as

1560
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 1: I pointed out before, and you know it as well

1561
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: as I, we all have a lot going on in

1562
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: our lives and quite often politics is the last thing

1563
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: on our list that we want to pay attention to.

1564
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 1: And that shouldn't be that way. But you got to

1565
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: talk get to people talking before they start paying attention

1566
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: and really maybe do the right thing at the ballot box.

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01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: Tom Zwastowski, find him at we the Peopleconvention dot Org.

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01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: Appreciate the work you're doing.

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01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:32,639
Speaker 2: Tom.

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01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure having you back on all. The

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01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: best of health for you and your family in a

1572
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: happy new Year to you.

1573
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, looking forward to talk with you again.

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01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Oh you'll be around, Tom, you can count on that

1575
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,719
Speaker 1: you're always welcome here. Coming up Hamilton County Common Please

1576
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: Judge Christopher mcdowas speak peace court here in the Hamilton

1577
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: County in study to talk about what is going on

1578
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 1: in his world. And I remember if the judges have

1579
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: a very difficult time right they're on the bench. They

1580
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: must preside over very significant matters criminal and otherwise. And there,

1581
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: of course a lot of people in the courtroom with

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01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: a p some of them not real please that their brother,

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01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 1: their husband, their wife, whoever is being tried for murder

1584
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 1: or some other crime or anything else. They have opinions

1585
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 1: quite often that filters over and lands in the judges

1586
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: lap in the form of insults, verbal or even threats.

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01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: And then you get the online element that I've been

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01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: talking about a lot this morning. Judge McDowell has experienced this.

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01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: He's got a great legal career. Hamilton County Court of

1590
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: Common please. He was appointed by Governor de Wine in

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01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 1: September of last year. He was with Strauss and Troy

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01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 1: prior to that, outstanding law firm. Prior to that, Dinsmore

1593
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: Shoal another great firm, and of course US Army Judge

1594
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: Advocate General Corps between ninety four and two thousand. Thank

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01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: you for your service for our country, Judge McDowell. Great

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01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: to have you here.

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01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 10: It's great to be here, Thank you very much.

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01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 1: It's a tough job, isn't it.

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01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 10: It's a lot harder than I thought, but it should

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01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 10: be hard.

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01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Well, Yeah, A tremendous amount of responsibility comes with it.

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01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're like me, you have a profound

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01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: respect for the law. It's one of the reasons why

1604
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:58,160
Speaker 1: I went to law school. I appreciate it, you know.

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01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: I enjoyed practicing when I did it, but I had

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01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: respect for it. And so many people just want to

1607
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 1: ride rough shot all over it and threatening a judge,

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01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: which I understand happens to you, is one of the

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01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 1: mechanisms that used to ride rough shot over and of

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01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: course trying to get a verdict, perhaps in a case

1611
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,560
Speaker 1: that you otherwise might not render, that is consistent with

1612
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 1: the law. So what happened with you specifically? Apparently your

1613
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: family also got threatened.

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01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, the threat was directed primarily to my family. Oh my,

1615
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,560
Speaker 10: the individual indicator that he was going to kill my

1616
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 10: family if I send him to prison. And I sent

1617
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 10: him to prison because that's where some people belong. Other

1618
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 10: people don't belong there. But some people that's what's in

1619
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 10: their future, and they don't like that that's what's in

1620
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 10: their future, and they lash out. But we can't allow

1621
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 10: that to drive the train here. We have to do justice.

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01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 1: No, and again going back to my problem with social media,

1623
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: same kind of thing. You know politicians, you know vv

1624
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: ramosover me with this wonderful op ed that I even

1625
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: read on the air this morning. You get this perception

1626
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: of the public will, but it's all magnified by foreign actors, bots,

1627
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence, and so you get the perception that this

1628
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: is the way most people feel or believe about any

1629
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: given issue, when it is not representative of what the

1630
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: constituents want. But in your court of law, maybe it explains.

1631
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: And I'll ask you to chime in on this. Your

1632
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 1: experience with a verbal threat of death or a threat

1633
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 1: to your family of death, is that maybe The answer

1634
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: to why judges are so soft on crime maybe less

1635
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 1: of a political ideology, that these defendants maybe had a

1636
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: bad home life, or otherwise we're victims of some sort

1637
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 1: of societal problem and therefore shouldn't be held accountable for

1638
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: their crimes. Or maybe it's something like what you experience.

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01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on that.

1640
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 10: I like to think that every judge does their duty,

1641
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 10: and that no judges acting because they're afraid of what

1642
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 10: may happen as a result of a decision. I think

1643
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 10: that what we see here is a general breakdown in

1644
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 10: the respect for the law in society, and I see

1645
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 10: this every day in my courtroom. The way people dress,

1646
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 10: you see, you know, women wearing yoga pants, you see

1647
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 10: men wearing T shirts, jeans. It's not like it was

1648
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 10: thirty years ago when I began practicing law. The way

1649
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 10: people talk to the court, you know, it's people have

1650
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 10: gum in their mouth, people are yeah, it's instead of yes.

1651
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 10: It's a real lack of respect. And when I was

1652
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 10: a defense attorney, I first began telling people, well, you're

1653
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 10: going to go to court, dress like you're going to

1654
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 10: go to church. But then I realized the people don't

1655
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 10: go to church. And then I'd say, dress like you're

1656
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 10: going to go to a job interview. Then I started

1657
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,880
Speaker 10: to realize they don't go to job interviews either. A

1658
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 10: lot of the problems that I see are people who

1659
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 10: just don't know how to adult. They don't know how

1660
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 10: to show up on time, they don't know how to dress,

1661
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 10: and they don't know how to talk because they've never

1662
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 10: been told how to do those things. Because our society

1663
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 10: is breaking down.

1664
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a whole lot to swallow. We're going to

1665
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: break down a little bit and see if we can

1666
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 1: figure out some of the reasons why that might be

1667
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: break down of the family structure. Perhaps that's my first reaction.

1668
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: Hold on seven thirty seven fifty five krecy the talk station,

1669
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,879
Speaker 1: we get a word and Thomas with Judge Christopher McDowell.

1670
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: Him uncanny common please judge. He sees all kinds of

1671
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 1: cases and most recently was threatened by one of the

1672
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: defendants in his courtroom. Actually he was more his family

1673
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: had been threatened. Well, that since chills down my spine.

1674
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: My friend. You know, I've commented before, I'm sure there's

1675
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 1: a lot of haters of Brian Thomas out in the world.

1676
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,759
Speaker 1: I've only received a couple of what I consider quasi

1677
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: credible threats, But I never go on social media to

1678
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: read anything about what anybody's saying. I'm sure there may

1679
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: be more than out there that I know of. If

1680
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't see him, they don't bother me. You don't

1681
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 1: have that ability in your courtroom. You're there face to

1682
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,799
Speaker 1: face with the defendant and the surrounding family members and friends,

1683
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: which I understand is maybe a bigger part of the

1684
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: problem in your courtroom.

1685
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,759
Speaker 10: Oh yes, it's the people in the gallery often present

1686
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 10: the biggest problem because there can be sometimes fifteen, twenty

1687
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,559
Speaker 10: or more family members, and you know, I have security

1688
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 10: in the courtroom, but I don't, you know, if they

1689
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 10: want to bum rush me, it's a real problem. But

1690
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 10: gaining control of the courtroom can be very problematic when

1691
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,560
Speaker 10: things don't go the way the family wants them to go.

1692
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 10: So I try to make it very clear that I'm

1693
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 10: not going to put up with any outburst, any hysteria.

1694
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 10: I kick people out of the courtroom quite frequently, tell

1695
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,480
Speaker 10: them to go out in the hall, leave the courthouse

1696
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,919
Speaker 10: if they can't behave It's not uncommon.

1697
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 1: Well, someone the on's told me it's not the death

1698
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: threats or the threats that are you read or hear

1699
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: that are the real problem. It's the ones you don't

1700
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 1: hear that are the problem. The most likely to actually

1701
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 1: engage in some sort of active violence toward any person

1702
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they don't talk about it out loud

1703
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: ahead of.

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01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 2: Time, right.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's it's not just me that is the

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Speaker 10: subject of this. It's judges now more and more throughout

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Speaker 10: the United States. Judges that are being threatened because it

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01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 10: is this breakdown of a respect for the law that

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01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 10: we see in this country. I'll tell you that the

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Speaker 10: place that I feel safest is actually in my courtroom.

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01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 10: I have deputies in the courtroom, and they are very

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Speaker 10: highly trained. They are professional. They really do a fantastic

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Speaker 10: job of bringing these inmates in and out of my courtroom.

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01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 10: If I need extra security, I will tell my bailiff,

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01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 10: you know, get somebody up here right away. Somebody will

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01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,200
Speaker 10: be there in just minutes or seconds. And so I

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01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 10: feel very secure in the courtroom. You have to go

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Speaker 10: through a metal detector to get into the building and

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01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 10: all that, so I feel secure in the courtroom. I

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01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 10: got to tell you, it's really leaving my house in

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Speaker 10: the morning going.

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Speaker 1: To the car is exactly what I was going to

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01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: ask you about, because you can feel safe with all

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Speaker 1: that security you have in the courtroom. But you mentioned

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Speaker 1: the threat was against your family. Your family doesn't enjoy

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Speaker 1: that level of protection, at least I presume not. And

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01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to break down, well, how much is

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01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 1: protection or security you've got in your own personal home.

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Speaker 1: But therein lies the challenge. JD Vance's vice president jd

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Speaker 1: Vance's home got vandalized by a kid who was able

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Speaker 1: to walk up the driveway well on a police on

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Speaker 1: an unmarked a security car and then start hammering on

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Speaker 1: the windows while the Secret Service agent he's yelling at him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you'd think they'd beat like the military in

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01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 1: terms of security going on there, the vice president, and

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01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: that was able to happen. You can't buy one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent security anytime.

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Speaker 10: No, you can't. You can't at all. The Hamilton County

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Speaker 10: Sheriff's Office did volunteer and I did accept to come

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01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:36,760
Speaker 10: out to my house and do an assessment of my house.

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01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 10: If if there was a threat that was you know, imminent,

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01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:43,560
Speaker 10: they would come and they would sit in front of

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01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 10: my house in the squad car if I wanted that, but.

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Speaker 1: Again, you can't.

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01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 10: You can't live that way. You can't live your life

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01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 10: that way, and justice cannot be thwarted because of this.

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01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 10: If we allow terrorists to sort of win, if we

1748
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 10: cave to them, then you just get more of it.

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01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:00,600
Speaker 10: And so we have to be brave and we have

1750
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 10: to stand up.

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Speaker 1: Excellent point is going to ask you about that. I

1752
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: think maybe the reason for this increase in threats to

1753
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 1: the likes of judges and others politicians. I imagine a

1754
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 1: part of this as well is because quite often those

1755
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: threats bear fruit and they ultimately can get their way.

1756
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: They'll either get lenient justice, they will be found not guilty,

1757
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 1: even if they're deserving a guilt, although that will be

1758
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: a bench trial, not a jury trial. But they see

1759
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 1: people rioting in the streets, like Black Lives Matter goes

1760
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,480
Speaker 1: out and says all police are evil, and big corporations

1761
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: start writing them checks. That's a sign of victory for

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01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: those who make those types of threats.

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01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 10: Absolutely. I mean you see them protesting out in front

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01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 10: of Supreme Court justices homes indeed, and so basically they're

1765
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:45,840
Speaker 10: trying to get their way through the threat and intimidation,

1766
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 10: and justice cannot work that way. Justice has to be blond,

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01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 10: and it can't be done because I'm afraid of somebody

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01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 10: or I'm afraid of the consequences of what is the

1769
01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 10: correct decision. And sometimes the correct decision this people need

1770
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 10: to go to prison. Sometimes it's they need treatment. But

1771
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 10: every case is its own individual case.

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01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: And that's what a good judge does. Each case is different,

1773
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 1: It's evaluated differently. The circumstances are weighed, the under given

1774
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 1: the who the defendant is, and what the circumstances are

1775
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:17,959
Speaker 1: in front of the court that day. The facts underline

1776
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 1: the crime that's been committed. But it takes responsible men

1777
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,240
Speaker 1: like you to make sure that the system still works

1778
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,840
Speaker 1: and to the extent these threats have any impact on

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01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,839
Speaker 1: any judge, this is I mean, I can't see anything,

1780
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: anything at all but bad coming out of this. We

1781
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:36,560
Speaker 1: got to stand up to it. Let's let's see we

1782
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: can't figure out how we go about doing that. One

1783
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 1: more with common Police Judge Christopher mcdoell, gotta take a

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Speaker 1: quick break here at seven forty seven. If if do

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Speaker 1: with Judge Christopher mcdowan studio talking about the well, the

1789
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 1: trials and tribulations of being a judge in this hot headed,

1790
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 1: angry world we live in, and of course societal deterioration,

1791
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: as he pointed out people coming in and sweatpants. I mean,

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01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, I practice law. You had to wear a

1793
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 1: suit and tie, and you had to wear a suit

1794
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,320
Speaker 1: and tie, and your clients were always responsible for, you know,

1795
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 1: looking good. It was for their own benefit.

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Speaker 7: Me.

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01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: You go in, you have a nice appearance. The judge

1798
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: is probably gonna look at more favorably on you than

1799
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 1: if you've got what would you see? Do we say

1800
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: in a scarfaced T shirt on when drug defendant in

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01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 1: your courtroom? Oh yeah, Oh that makes sense speaking of drugs,

1802
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 1: since we were talking off air about it, and I'm

1803
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: not sure that you and I can come up with

1804
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: a quick solution for what ails society along those lines,

1805
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 1: but suffice it to say, it's crept into your courtroom.

1806
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 1: You have been threatened, and your family has been threatened

1807
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: with physical violence, death. Even I like to think since

1808
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,799
Speaker 1: you sentenced that man to prison in spite of the threats,

1809
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 1: nothing followed up. Did you hear any follow up threats?

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01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 1: Or because you sentenced me, you are going to get

1811
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:53,960
Speaker 1: it now that kind of thing, or did it just

1812
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 1: go to go away?

1813
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 10: The deputy sheriffs took care of the matter.

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01:37:57,880 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 1: He was in room A, he was arraigned.

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01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 10: Judge Josh Burkowitz gave him two hundred and fifty thousand

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01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:03,679
Speaker 10: dollars bond.

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01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: He's a good guy.

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01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 10: Judge Burkowitz is a fantastic man. I know, I know

1819
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 10: it's a huge loss to the judiciary.

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01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 1: That it was a tragic loss. And of course, if

1821
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: he was in front of Judge Silverstein, she probably would

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01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: have let him out with no bond. Oh our bond

1823
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:22,599
Speaker 1: right own recognizance. And they're in illustrates of the promiy.

1824
01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 1: Is it that they want society to deteriorate? I mean

1825
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: they put the entire public at large in jeopardy When dangerous,

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01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 1: demonstrably violent, with long record individuals are allowed out with

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01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: own recognisance bonds.

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01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 10: It's a matter of where your focus is. If your

1829
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 10: focus is on protecting society, then you issue a heavy,

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01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 10: strong bond to make sure that this person does not

1831
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 10: get out and hurt other people. If your focus is

1832
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 10: on the individual, on the defendant, you know, what does

1833
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 10: this defendant need. Oh, he doesn't have a job, he's

1834
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 10: he can't make the bond, so we're going to not

1835
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 10: give him a cash bond. It's the focus is different.

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01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 10: The focus is on the defendant and what can we

1837
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 10: do to help the defendant versus what can we do

1838
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 10: to protect society. It's an entirely different mindset.

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01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 1: It really is, well and I would say the key

1840
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: leg of law enforcement is the prosecution and punishment is

1841
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: the deterrence to other people doing the same thing. You know, sorry,

1842
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 1: it sucks with you. You had a bad life, but

1843
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 1: you've violated someone's rights. You harmed them, you killed them,

1844
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,640
Speaker 1: you stab them, whatever the case may be, You're going

1845
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: to be the illustration and the example for the rest

1846
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 1: of the people out in the world.

1847
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 2: To not do it.

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01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:36,880
Speaker 1: You're going to jail.

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01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 10: That's right. And it's the same thing for people who

1850
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 10: violate probation. If you have terms and conditions of your

1851
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 10: probation and you violate those terms and conditions, there has

1852
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 10: to be a consequence. I can't just continue to put

1853
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 10: you on probation. Again and again sends you back into

1854
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 10: the community. At some point we have to say you're

1855
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 10: not amenable to probation, and so what we need to

1856
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 10: do is separate you from society to protec tech society

1857
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 10: from people who are violent and who are not going

1858
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 10: to change their ways, people who just want to do drugs,

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01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 10: want to harm people.

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Speaker 1: Well, real quick here, since we're almost out of time

1861
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: and judgementdal, I guess everything old is new again? Off

1862
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Speaker 1: the air, you said that it has been a huge

1863
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:21,240
Speaker 1: increase in powder cocaine cases. It's like nineteen eighties again.

1864
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 1: It is nineteen eighty eight in my courtroom. What is

1865
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: old is new?

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Speaker 10: I have seen a tremendous increase in powder cocaine. At

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01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 10: first I thought it was an anomaly. Now it's I'd say,

1868
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 10: almost every day I see cocaine, and I also have

1869
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 10: to ask is this powder cocaine or crack cocaine? And

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Speaker 10: I'm also seeing a slight increase too and crack cocaine.

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Speaker 1: And that was the wave of in the eighties. It

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01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 1: sorted with powder, it turned into crack and it was

1873
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: all the rage. And you know, here we are back again.

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Speaker 1: You would think that the presence of fentanyl in literally

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01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 1: every street drug out there, would prevent people from going

1876
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 1: out and buying street drugs because oh, that's right, you're

1877
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: going to die.

1878
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 10: Yeah, you would think. What's really scary at college students? Yeah,

1879
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 10: college students who think they're taking an adderall or a

1880
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 10: xanax or something and they go into their dorm room

1881
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 10: and they never wake up again.

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Speaker 1: Such a tragedy because it's laced with fentanyl. Well, hopefully

1883
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: that the Trump policies on the border and the efforts

1884
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 1: to eliminate drugs coming into our country will bear fruit.

1885
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Speaker 1: But I think we have no one to blame about

1886
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: ourselves for our drug consumption. In large part, there's always

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01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:31,640
Speaker 1: the demand there and there's always someone willing to fill it.

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Speaker 1: Judge McDowell, a great time having in the studio. Real

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Speaker 1: pleasure for you. I'm for you to come in. Always

1890
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 1: enjoy talking face to face with folks, and I appreciate

1891
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:44,640
Speaker 1: you standing up for the justice system and being the

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Speaker 1: illustration of the type of judge we need these days

1893
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Speaker 1: so desperately. And keep up the great work. You always

1894
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Speaker 1: got a former venue here to talk about what's going

1895
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Speaker 1: on in the court system. I appreciate you coming back

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Happy New Year to you, seven

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Speaker 1: Caleb Caruz. I haven't talked with him, but he is

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Speaker 1: a former Venezuelan native fled to the country.

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Speaker 1: my next guest, and it is a pleasure to have

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Speaker 1: we'll call him Caleb. He escaped Venezuela in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Morning Show. Welcome, sir good marnin Man. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for having me, and thank you for being on

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Speaker 1: the program. And doing what you're doing. It's so important

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Speaker 1: my listeners as I always do when I start out

1918
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Speaker 1: this segment inside scoop at Breitbart News. Book mark the

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Speaker 1: site Breitbart b R E I T b A r

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Speaker 1: T dot com. You'd be glad you did, and you

1921
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 1: can read what Cale has been writing about. Can I

1922
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 1: ask you it? We'll die have obviously so much to

1923
01:43:10,040 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 1: talk about to unpackage with Venezuela right now. You were

1924
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Speaker 1: writing for Bredebart doing the mysocialist help column from Venezuela.

1925
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Speaker 1: Did that present a threat to you given the how

1926
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Speaker 1: crazy the administration there was under Biduro.

1927
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Speaker 11: Yes, yes, people have told me that. I kind of

1928
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Speaker 11: downplay it personally, but it was a huge risk because

1929
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 11: I have this president. This is an actual story. Back

1930
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 11: in twenty fourteen, one of my neighbors happened to be

1931
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Speaker 11: a journalist and she got kidnapped in broad daylight the

1932
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Speaker 11: righteops at her home. This was covered by Brightbot at

1933
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Speaker 11: the time. It was one of the few outlets in

1934
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Speaker 11: internationally that actually covered this story. Thankfully, she was able

1935
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Speaker 11: to leave Venezuela and safe and sound.

1936
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Speaker 2: She was found.

1937
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Speaker 11: She was rescued, but I had that president already like that,

1938
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 11: that personal president, that there is always a risk of

1939
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 11: with the regime, because we're talking about a highly authorative

1940
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 11: regime with a brutal, repressive apparacess that has jailed journalist,

1941
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 11: that has jailed people. Last year, they jailed sixty elderly doctor,

1942
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Speaker 11: sixty something year old doctor, simply because she posted a

1943
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 11: message on what'sapp critical of the REGIN. So it was

1944
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Speaker 11: a risk, yeah, it was. It was definitely worth it

1945
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Speaker 11: to get the boys out there. And I appreciate that.

1946
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Speaker 11: I'm always thankful to brag, but well then giving me

1947
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:35,000
Speaker 11: that opportunity, because it was a very important thing to say,

1948
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 11: how to tell the story of how things just how

1949
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 11: bad things got down there on the Rumadurova gyms and

1950
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 11: its socialism and policies.

1951
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Speaker 1: And judging from what I'm reading about your life in

1952
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 1: vent as well, and nobody better to speak about it

1953
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that Bernie Sanders and the

1954
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: likes of Sean Penn think it was a utopia that

1955
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: we all need to emulate. Not quite. So let's talk

1956
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: about your mother who had who passed away in Venezuela,

1957
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,759
Speaker 1: for one, of medicine that isn't even available in the country.

1958
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: How long has this been kind of going on?

1959
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the healthcare situation in Venezuela is a complete disaster.

1960
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 11: There was lamp and there are still lamp and shortages.

1961
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 11: You just cannot you just cannot go to kind of

1962
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 11: expect to go to a hospital and actually receive treatment,

1963
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 11: even in private clinics. That's just how bad things things were.

1964
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 11: So my mother, she was a doctor, so I was

1965
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:33,639
Speaker 11: always had some insight without the shortcomings of the Venezuelan

1966
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 11: healthcare system under the both public and private. She got

1967
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 11: diagnosed with cancer in twenty fifteen, and by then the

1968
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 11: situation in Venezuela was already collapsed. Getting the treatment she

1969
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:52,160
Speaker 11: needed was outright impossible. We had to get some alternate

1970
01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 11: chemos arapy that wasn't the ideal one, but it was

1971
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 11: better than nothing nothing obviously without the right treatment. Eventually

1972
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 11: she passed away in twenty eighteen.

1973
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Speaker 1: You know, not to interject personal realities. I literally had

1974
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 1: my update doctor visit with my cancer doctor. I have

1975
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 1: lymphom and I got to go back to treatment. I

1976
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 1: literally said to my wife when I got back from

1977
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Speaker 1: my appointment, I'm glad I don't live in Venezuela. As

1978
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 1: upset as I am about having to get chemo again.

1979
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Speaker 1: At least we've got it here. Caleb.

1980
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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, no, no, but you got this, You got this.

1981
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Speaker 11: I'll be rooting for you.

1982
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Speaker 1: Well, thanks for him. I'm not looking for Sybothy. I'm

1983
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Speaker 1: just thankful for the American medical system. As crazy as

1984
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 1: as it might be from time to time, it's nothing

1985
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 1: like the pain that you're living or that the Venezuelans

1986
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 1: are living through. Also, I understand you had spend a

1987
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Speaker 1: lot of your day searching for food on the black market.

1988
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 1: How do every day Venezuelan survive? I just it's beyond

1989
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Speaker 1: me to understand that.

1990
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Speaker 11: Okay, So the situation in Venezuela has rapidly evolved unchanged

1991
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:53,160
Speaker 11: over the past ten to fifteen years. Back then, when

1992
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 11: I wrote those articles, it was extremely difficult to find

1993
01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 11: even the basic things like toilet paper, oil or rice,

1994
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 11: what have you? Even toothpaste. I actually I always say

1995
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 11: this story because I got into a fight over toilet

1996
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Speaker 11: paper in late twenty thirteen. It wasn't my proudest moment

1997
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 11: in my life, but it happened. But that's how that's

1998
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 11: how the country situation pushed me to behave that that day.

1999
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,360
Speaker 11: Had to fight over people and push people just to

2000
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 11: secure a bit of toilet paper because I were only

2001
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:31,560
Speaker 11: limiting one per person just to have something for my family. Eventually, yeah, eventually,

2002
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 11: the rush the shortages got so severe, especially between twenty

2003
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 11: fourteen to twenty eighteen, that the regime instead of fixing

2004
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:43,919
Speaker 11: things up, they just clamped it down with the socialist policies.

2005
01:47:44,360 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 11: But they did first was implement weekly rations based on

2006
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 11: the last number of your national edic card.

2007
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Speaker 2: Let's stay.

2008
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Speaker 11: For instance, mine my Benezula national edit card is in

2009
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Speaker 11: the number eight. That meant I was only allowed to

2010
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 11: purchase some of that stuff on Fridays, but by Friday

2011
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 11: there wasn't By Friday there was nothing left. Pretty much,

2012
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 11: eventually this change into a system that doesn't function anymore, thankfully,

2013
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 11: wherein you would have to scan your fingerprint outside in

2014
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Speaker 11: supermarkets to be allowed to purchase things. Over time, the

2015
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 11: regym for maybe they saw light, I don't know. They

2016
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 11: ease some of these restradictions and now the thing is

2017
01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 11: that you can find things. But the regim pushed everyone

2018
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,720
Speaker 11: into such levels of extreme poverty that most people just

2019
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 11: can't afford it and buy food and buy anything.

2020
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Speaker 1: Well, you would think even under the least under the

2021
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 1: Biden administration, as open as our border was and as

2022
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 1: many Venezuelans who left the country and flat. I know

2023
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 1: a lot of the wealthy Venezuelans got under the job

2024
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: as resume at least that's what I understand. But the

2025
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 1: rest see to be how to make their way to

2026
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Speaker 1: the border. You had to escape Venezuela, and he did

2027
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:01,240
Speaker 1: so in twenty twenty four. Was a difficult thing to do.

2028
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,799
Speaker 1: Is like escaping you sort of like Nazi occupied Berlin

2029
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 1: or something when the wall was up. What do you

2030
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: have to go through to get out?

2031
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Speaker 11: Well, the way they do it is that you know,

2032
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 11: they have to save face and pretend that they are

2033
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 11: the good guys fighting the good fight against America and

2034
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 11: the world, et cetera. The way they do it is

2035
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 11: not unlike the Burtling Wall, in which they let they

2036
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 11: contain people in. You can go out, but they don't

2037
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 11: make it easy for you to go out. First of all,

2038
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 11: because not everyone has the money to travel, and secondly

2039
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 11: because getting you can go out, but if you go

2040
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:40,679
Speaker 11: out without your documentation, let's say, passports, their certificates, your work,

2041
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 11: your diplomas. You know diplomas have you have to go

2042
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 11: to the legalization apple still process to be able to

2043
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 11: have some validity of them outside the country. At the

2044
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 11: time my mother passed away, she was undergoing that process.

2045
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 11: So after she died, I have to go to every

2046
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 11: office and get all her diplomas back for safe keeping.

2047
01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 11: The way I left Venezuela because maybe maybe it was

2048
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 11: just me. And on the last day my mother died,

2049
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 11: I promised her I would take care of my brother

2050
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,679
Speaker 11: because he has he has some disabilities, and I promised

2051
01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 11: her that I would take care of him no matter what,

2052
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 11: and I will get him out of the way, find

2053
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 11: a way healthy out of the country. Now I tried

2054
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 11: to do. I tried several approaches. I just did other

2055
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 11: resources or things that I didn't wanted to do it illegally.

2056
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 11: So ultimately my last resource to get my brother out

2057
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 11: was to get him Italian s thediasenship to our father,

2058
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 11: who is an Italian man. This took me several years

2059
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 11: to gather all the documentation and the birth certificates. I

2060
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 11: even had to bribe my way in to get my

2061
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 11: own birth certificate, because that's just how cor OpEd Venezuela

2062
01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 11: is nowadays. It took me years, but eventually I, thankfully,

2063
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 11: thank God, I got everything done and the right way,

2064
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 11: and we're here.

2065
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: And in spite of the fact that you're now living

2066
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: in Italy, you're still reporting on things in Venezuela. I'm

2067
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: certain that you have many contacts remaining in Venezuela. Do

2068
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 1: you with the general sense of the population as you

2069
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 1: understand it, Caleb, about the reaction to the capture of

2070
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro and his wife and the prosecution of him

2071
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,560
Speaker 1: in the United States. What what do you get a

2072
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:17,600
Speaker 1: sense of from the reaction of the people you've talked to?

2073
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 11: Okay, from the people that I've talked to. Dave told

2074
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 11: me that everyone is happy, but you cannot express just

2075
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 11: how happy you are because, Okay, Maduro is gone, his

2076
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 11: wife is gone, but the regime is still there. The

2077
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 11: entire brutal, repressive apparatus is still intact, so you don't

2078
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,240
Speaker 11: have the freedom to go out and celebrate in the

2079
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 11: same manner that you see all the Pennezula outside the

2080
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:45,640
Speaker 11: country have been doing right. So I've spoken to some

2081
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 11: relatives and acquaintances have you've told me that the general

2082
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 11: consensus is that everyone has no idea what's going to happen.

2083
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 11: Everyone's in on a shutout of uncertainty. But everyone is

2084
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:57,680
Speaker 11: just trying to live their lives right now because I

2085
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 11: don't playing it safe and don't don't don't don't go

2086
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 11: in out celebrating. This is the smartest thing to do.

2087
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 1: Well, I might go ahead, go ahead, I'm sorry.

2088
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 11: I know people have told me. No, We're just going

2089
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 11: to pretend like nothing happened. They went to work yesterday Monday,

2090
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 11: just like any other day. They came back home, they

2091
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 11: eat some food and the rest, because that's the smartest

2092
01:52:21,280 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 11: thing to do with unless the one according to the rest.

2093
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: Of the regime understood. And we're in a state of

2094
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 1: flux right now. And I understand why the citizen room

2095
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 1: might not be out celebrating given that there's still this

2096
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: police apparatus in place, which is run. I know Vice

2097
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 1: President Delsi Rodriguez is sort of a question mark right

2098
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:42,400
Speaker 1: now which direction she's gonna do. But she's currently the

2099
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 1: acting president. But the Interior Minister, a person named Dio

2100
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: Sado Cabello, and the Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino sound like

2101
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 1: they're more thuggish loyalists to the Majuro type regime. They

2102
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 1: remain in power, and they also are under indictment here

2103
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:00,479
Speaker 1: in the United States of America. Do you have any

2104
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 1: understanding or expectation what those two individuals, Padrino and di

2105
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: Esato Cabello might do by way of response to Donald

2106
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:12,400
Speaker 1: Trump's imploring them to play nice or suffer the same faith.

2107
01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 11: Well, President Trump gave Maduro several chances over the past month.

2108
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:21,719
Speaker 11: They gave him several opportunities to leave the country under favorable,

2109
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 11: favorable terms that personally, I don't think he deserved. But

2110
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 11: it is what it is, and we will see. We

2111
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 11: don't know how they're going to react. Because the Socialists

2112
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,920
Speaker 11: of Regin the highest, the top brass, let's call it

2113
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 11: that way. The top brass is composed of several suctions.

2114
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 11: You had Maduro and his wife, theos Dad or the

2115
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 11: interior minister, and the defense minister patrinal Ops. They come

2116
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 11: from the military wing of the of the VAGIN. They

2117
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 11: were alongside Hugo Shavis, who was also a military man,

2118
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 11: whereas Maduro was part of the civilian wing of the VAGIN.

2119
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 11: Because he used to be a boss driver and a

2120
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:06,800
Speaker 11: union worker syndicate leader back in the day. Now they'll

2121
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 11: see the current acting president. She's also a civilian. She

2122
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 11: was Maduda's vice president. She was she was also her

2123
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 11: foreign minister and occupied other positions in the past. And

2124
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 11: her brother or her Rodriguez, he is the current head

2125
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 11: of the parliament or the Venezuelan Parliament, which is also

2126
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 11: completely controlled by the Regin. So the Deligous family is

2127
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:31,200
Speaker 11: essentially one of the most powerful families in the in

2128
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:34,960
Speaker 11: the country because you have the sister that he controls

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Speaker 11: the executive right now as acting president, and you have

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Speaker 11: the brother who controls the parliament. The way I see

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Speaker 11: it is that they I hope that they understood that

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Speaker 11: President Trump isn't playing and they gave Maduro. He gave

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Speaker 11: Maduda several chances. He didn't took any of that. He

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Speaker 11: didn't took any of those chances. He kept up playing hard.

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Speaker 11: And now he knows the consequences of it because Cavejo

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Speaker 11: and Paderno are also wanted on drug trafficking charges and

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Speaker 11: they are included in the indictment of that that just

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Speaker 11: got on sealed against Madudo.

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Speaker 1: Well, the entire world seems to be unified in their

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Speaker 1: assessment that Maduro stole the election, meaning Vice President Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: is currently in power also the beneficiary of a stolen election.

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Speaker 1: Will they in state the properly elected UH president at

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Speaker 1: some point, do you think or are we going to

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Speaker 1: start all over the brand new election? What's your what's

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Speaker 1: your understanding about where we're going to go from here

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Speaker 1: on that?

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Speaker 11: Well, well, as you mentioned, Delsey is the acting president

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Speaker 11: on the Barbia. This is under the assumption that Maduda

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Speaker 11: was a legitimate president, which he was not, which he

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Speaker 11: was not.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 11: They are even ignoring the constitution that says that if

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Speaker 11: a president isn't unable to serve his functions before the

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Speaker 11: first half of his term, you will have to call

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Speaker 11: for snap elections, which isn't happening right now. But we

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Speaker 11: are that it's a complicated, uncharted scenario in which we

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Speaker 11: should maybe probably hold new elections where we are not.

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Speaker 11: The conditions to hold free elections are simply not there,

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Speaker 11: so we will have to go on terms some sort

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Speaker 11: of transition period, little by little until things until the

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Speaker 11: conditions for a new election perhaps can happen. And because

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Speaker 11: the elegym controls the military. There is no they control

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Speaker 11: the electoral Council. The conditions for the free elections are

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Speaker 11: simply not there right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, and at some point I suppose the US is

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Speaker 1: going to have to get involved in maybe bringing about

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Speaker 1: some stability for the elections. I don't know how that's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. What do you see at this point

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Speaker 1: to be the biggest challenge maybe that Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: facing and trying to bring about the stability that we're

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Speaker 1: talking about here, sir.

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Speaker 11: The biggest challenge would be they'ls herself, because although she's

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Speaker 11: allegedly operating with America, she's also acting all tough and

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Speaker 11: almighty inside the country. They just pass a degree that

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Speaker 11: supposedly Maduro signed on the same day he got captured.

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Speaker 11: Don't ask me how, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, perhaps maybe, maybe maybe. But the decree there is

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Speaker 11: a specific article that says that grants the police are

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Speaker 11: law enforcement in Venezuela the authority to unrest and detail

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Speaker 11: people who are quote unquote cooperating with the attack on Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Well, sir, I cannot thank enough Caleb Cruzer for spending

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Speaker 1: time my listeners and me today. I appreciate what you

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Speaker 1: have been doing since twenty nineteen. Yet, Brightbart, and despite

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Speaker 1: of the fact that, yes, you were under threat of

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Speaker 1: maybe disappearing, as the case may be, you did the

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Speaker 1: right thing. You continue to do the right thing. We

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Speaker 1: will continue reading what you write and hopefully have you

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Speaker 1: back in the program real soon to talk about things

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Speaker 1: as they unfold and develop, hopefully for the benefit of

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Speaker 1: the Venezuela and people. Caleb, thank you.

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Speaker 11: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You can. You can.

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Speaker 11: Obviously you can find the stuff right at Bridbirth you will.

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Speaker 11: You'll find all the breaking news at the homepage. But myself,

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Speaker 11: you can find it mostly at the on the top

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Speaker 11: of the international section. I do it several sections, and

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Speaker 11: there's one for Latin America.

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Speaker 1: I do it every single day. That's why I always

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Speaker 1: recommend my listeners bookmark the website brightbart dot com. Caleb Cruiser,

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Speaker 1: God bless you, sir. You're always welcome here on the

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Speaker 1: fifty five kres Morning Show. Stay well and keep up

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01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: the great work. Eight Station Tuesday, it's time for the

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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis Deep Dive this week chapter two. We had

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Speaker 1: a special edition with him yesterday. Given the situation of Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: and of course we weren't able to unpackage all that.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant colonel, has his own podcast. You

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Speaker 1: can find them wherever you get your podcasts, and I

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Speaker 1: recommend you do that. Daniel Davis, dep dive, Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Always a pleasure talking with you.

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Speaker 2: I joy to be here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for going giving me back your second day in

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Speaker 3: a week. It's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: Well, we could talk every single day and still not

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Speaker 1: be able to unpackage all this nine cents. I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's face it, and we might get to it. There

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01:58:57,240 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 1: is still a war between Russia and Ukraine going on

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01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 1: out there, but it's it's been overshadowed, of course by

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Speaker 1: the military action in Venezuela. And again I got to

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Speaker 1: salute the American military. Come down wherever you want on

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Speaker 1: the exercise. It's validity or anything, damn it. Our soldiers

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Speaker 1: did a hell of a good job, a well oiled

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Speaker 1: machine operation that was, and not a single loss of

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Speaker 1: American life except a lot of Cubans apparently went down

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Speaker 1: in that one. Thirty two has been the reported number.

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Speaker 1: And real quick on just on that point, Daniel Davis,

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Speaker 1: why was Maduro being surrounded by Cuban protectors and armed

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Speaker 1: personnel when he's got his own army, navy, and air force,

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Speaker 1: apparently all commanded by Interior Minister Diesato Cabello and Defense

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Speaker 1: Minister Vladimir Padrino, who are still issues in this whole

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Speaker 1: equation as we move forward. Didn't you have his own people?

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Speaker 1: What's with the Cubans?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did. I think that part of the reason

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Speaker 3: for that is to kind of rotate people around as

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Speaker 3: an additional means of security, so that you tried to

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Speaker 3: avoid what apparently did happen, which is somebody on the

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Speaker 3: inside turning against you. And so you had somebody that

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Speaker 3: you think is definitely loyal from the outside because Cuba

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Speaker 3: literally relies for their economic life on Cuban oil or

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Speaker 3: on Venezuelan oil. And I think the idea was, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna have somebody from the outside who can we can

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Speaker 3: keep a closer eye on. They don't have connections with anybody,

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna conspire with anybody on the ground. Uh,

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Speaker 3: and that's gonna keep me safe. And uh, you know

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Speaker 3: that's certainly not the way it turned out. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they didn't go they didn't go down passively. They they

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Speaker 3: did die fighting, but uh yeah, it turned out to

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Speaker 3: be not.

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Speaker 1: Enough, not quiet enough. Now the as we move forward

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Speaker 1: here that it's a big open question about what's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen next. Now I mentioned the two military guys, the

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Speaker 1: Cabello and Pedrino, who are really I guess, diehard Chavista types,

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Speaker 1: the military types. But you also have the current acting president,

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Speaker 1: Vice President Delasia Rodriguez. She's seems to be kind of

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Speaker 1: playing it, not neutral, sitting on the fence, but she

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Speaker 1: hasn't embraced the idea of working with Donald Trump going forward.

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Speaker 1: But she hasn't outright rejected it and say no, no,

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Speaker 1: We're going to fight to the finish. They're still trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out the hand that they've been dealt and

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Speaker 1: what they're going to do going forward. Because I know

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Speaker 1: that Cabello and Padrina both have criminal indictments against them

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Speaker 1: as well. So it's conceivable anyway that another military operation

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Speaker 1: could go in and cut off the heads of the

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Speaker 1: what what what is of the military there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the implication, that's the threat actually that hey,

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Speaker 3: we can come back at any time, but I'll just

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Speaker 3: tell you we can't that that card has been played.

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Speaker 3: There's you'll you'll never have another opportunity to go in

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Speaker 3: like this with the surprise uh and have that success,

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Speaker 3: because now then they're aware of how this would work,

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Speaker 3: what the what the process is, where the dangers are,

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Speaker 3: and now then they'll be ready. Even though they were

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Speaker 3: caught with their pants down here. It won't happen twice.

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Speaker 3: And if anybody thinks that we can just go in

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Speaker 3: with another clean snatch and grab, it's just not how

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Speaker 3: it works in the real world. The other thing that's

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Speaker 3: that for for Rodriguez especially is like I said, that

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Speaker 3: there's pretty strong evidence that there was some sort of

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Speaker 3: inside double agent top cooperation, which is one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons why we were able to get in so easily

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Speaker 3: to the inner sanctum of Maduro himself. And whether that

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Speaker 3: person has been identified, whether that's somebody who left with

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Speaker 3: the with the with the helicopters, or whether they're still

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Speaker 3: on the ground somewhere, there's got to be a fear

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Speaker 3: inside of the power hierarchy who else is a double agent?

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Speaker 3: So they got to be real careful right now they're

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out who they can and can't trust,

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Speaker 3: and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a purge

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Speaker 3: going on, anyone's even who's even suspected. So they got

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Speaker 3: to get their house clean inside first before they can

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Speaker 3: feel confident. But she is in a tough position, Rodriguez,

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Speaker 3: because she can't just start bowing to Trump, because all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, she's gonna fund resistance within her own

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Speaker 3: country because they're going to say, you know, don't just

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Speaker 3: hand the keys over. But she obviously can't go too

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Speaker 3: far with Trump because whether there's another snatching grab or

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Speaker 3: just missiles or something. She realizes that she is indeed

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Speaker 3: a risk, so she's trying to trying to find that

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Speaker 3: happy medium.

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Speaker 1: Now is that risk the consequence of the corrupt I

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Speaker 1: would say the people benefiting from the Maduro regimer who

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Speaker 1: had been benefiting from it die hard. Potentially Chavistas that

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Speaker 1: are still there, because I get the impression and I

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Speaker 1: just literally talk with a guy who works for Breitbart

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Speaker 1: who lived in escape from Venezuela, Caleb Cruz, a real

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Speaker 1: nice guy. The will of the people, although they can't

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Speaker 1: go out in the streets and rejoice for fear that

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Speaker 1: they're going to be rounded up and disappeared, which is

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Speaker 1: typical there but they're pretty darn happy that Maduro isn't

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Speaker 1: there anymore. Their lives are terrible in Venezuela. So if

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Speaker 1: the people generally support a transition to a pre Chevista

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Speaker 1: better economy where they're making money and they have opportunity,

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Speaker 1: isn't she on safer ground going that direction? Or is

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Speaker 1: this what I would characterize and correct me if I'm wrong, sir.

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Speaker 1: Smaller minority of loyalists or well connected people that big

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Speaker 1: of a threat to her that she wouldn't bother doing that,

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Speaker 1: even if it's the will of the people.

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Speaker 3: Well, I you know, I talked to a friend of

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Speaker 3: mine here in Washington that has family still in Caracas,

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Speaker 3: and he was telling me that his reports from the

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Speaker 3: ground there are similar to what your friend said. That

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Speaker 3: everybody's still kind of uncertain and afraid. They don't know

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Speaker 3: what to think, and they don't even know what to believe.

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Speaker 1: In any case, they do know that the.

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Speaker 3: All of the power structures of the Maduro regime are

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Speaker 3: in place. The only thing that we got taken out

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Speaker 3: was the head. But the head is only the head

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Speaker 3: of a system, and all the system is still fully

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Speaker 3: in place. So they don't have freedom suddenly that they

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Speaker 3: didn't have before Maduro was pulled out, and I think

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Speaker 3: they're aware of that, but they also know, you know,

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Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? You're gonna have a you know,

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Speaker 3: some kind of an uprising. Well, the same reason they

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Speaker 3: didn't have an uprising under Maduro is still the same

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Speaker 3: thing in place here. So there's no freedom in Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing has been changed on the system level. So

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Speaker 3: right now everybody's way to find out what's going to

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Speaker 3: happen and listen. We also have to recognize that all

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Speaker 3: of the hardships on Venezuela is not just because of

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Speaker 3: this management, though that's a big part of it, or

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Speaker 3: their corruption, but because of these crippling sanctions we've had

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Speaker 3: on them for a long time. So it's that it's

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Speaker 3: some of the people in Venezuela are not real happy

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Speaker 3: about even what we've been doing because they recognize that

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Speaker 3: some of this is being imposed on them from the outside,

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Speaker 3: and so they don't really trust us that they're going

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Speaker 3: to rise up and think that we're going to come

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Speaker 3: and support them because it could cost them their lives.

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Speaker 1: That I get. But since the system as you describe

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Speaker 1: it is still in place, the head may have been

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Speaker 1: cut off, but the system is still there. We just

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Speaker 1: briefly touched on the global realities. We got Iran, China, Russia,

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Speaker 1: and then of course Cuba, which seems like it's on

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Speaker 1: his last legs, all inextrictedly entertrined on some level with

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Speaker 1: Venezuela just because Maduro's gone. Their foot in the door

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Speaker 1: and the relationship with that with Venezuela generally that hasn't disappeared,

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Speaker 1: at least as far as China, Russia, and I understand

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Speaker 1: Iran had drone manufactured facilities in Venezuela as well. Those

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Speaker 1: relationships remain, Are they on you know, thin ice? Where

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Speaker 1: are we with them?

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Speaker 3: That's what everybody's trying to find out. I'm talking about Beijing, Moscow, Caracas.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's trying to figure out what does all this going

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Speaker 3: to mean? And no one knows yet because Venezuela doesn't know.

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Speaker 3: Because the United States we kind of opened up this

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Speaker 3: can of worms.

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Speaker 5: We don't even know.

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Speaker 3: We don't know for sure what we're gonna do and

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Speaker 3: what we're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna have next.

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Speaker 3: Because I think that there are people in Washington that

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Speaker 3: are fully aware that this snatch and grab was this

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Speaker 3: huge military operation but had one solitary objective which they

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Speaker 3: went in, they got out and came out relatively unscathed.

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Speaker 3: But anything further than that, and you can get yourself

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Speaker 3: into a real problem, you know. So we don't want

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Speaker 3: to go in real big I think we want to

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Speaker 3: pretend like we can and threaten that we will. But

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a big appetite for getting into

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Speaker 3: a war that we might just start an open ended

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Speaker 3: situation that you can't succeed in. They could be real ugly.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, look, China has I think it's

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Speaker 3: like eighty billion dollars of loans and other kinds of

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Speaker 3: security things that they have given to Venezuela that they

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Speaker 3: need to be repaid. So they're going to be working

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Speaker 3: hard to make sure their interest are are not sacrificed.

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Speaker 3: Russia has less leverage, but they certainly are the same

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Speaker 3: interest And then you have even talked about what about Columbia?

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Speaker 1: Are they next?

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Speaker 3: You know, what about Mexico? There's threatens there Greenland for

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Speaker 3: crying out loud. I mean that's apparently on the hit

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Speaker 3: list too, apparently coming up within twenty days. We don't

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Speaker 3: know for sure what Trump meant by that, but that's

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Speaker 3: apparently going to be on the table too, So there

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Speaker 3: is a lot of moving pieces here at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm completely perplexed by the whole Greenland obsession. Honestly, sir,

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Speaker 1: maybe the greatest piece of real estate in the world,

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Speaker 1: but what right does the United States have to it?

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Speaker 1: I keep waiting for that question to be answered. Anyhow,

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Speaker 1: there aren't any drug boats coming out of Greenland as

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Speaker 1: far as you know, are there are there, Daniel, if

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Speaker 1: I haven't missed anything.

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Speaker 3: Fishing boats up there, And one wonders if fishing boats

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Speaker 3: are going to suddenly be a problem. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't appear as that we're going to have

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Speaker 1: to engage agent another failed military exercise like the Bay

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Speaker 1: of Pigs. Cuba looks like it's on its last legs.

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Speaker 1: I mean, economically, they were already devastated with the oil

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Speaker 1: embargers and the sanctions. I know they were getting some

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Speaker 1: gratis oil from Venezuela, which a lot of which they

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Speaker 1: were able to sell off in order to help their

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Speaker 1: own economy or help themselves and line their pockets the

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Speaker 1: authorities in Cuba. But where do you see Cuba going

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Speaker 1: if we completely cut off their ability to get any

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Speaker 1: energy whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'll tell you this is what perplexes me

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Speaker 3: even more than the Greenland issues. Really, why this avn't right?

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Speaker 3: Obsession with destroying Cuba. I've been to Cuba and I

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Speaker 3: can tell you just about seven eight years ago with

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Speaker 3: a church group that went in there to help some

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Speaker 3: of the local churches. And they are so poor they

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Speaker 3: can barely even feed themselves. They're a threat to literally

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Speaker 3: no one. They're lucky to keep the lights on and

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Speaker 3: some food in grocery stores. So you had to coach

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Speaker 3: the other day a former director of Nashville or a

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Speaker 3: deputy national security advisor say that they are a big

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Speaker 3: threat to us and now we got to go get them.

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Speaker 3: And I'm just like puzzled, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: There is no threat, and yet you heard Marco Rubio

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Speaker 3: is just almost gleeful with the idea of destroying Cuba.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing that we need to worry about. Why we

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Speaker 3: want to harm them because they don't pose a threat

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Speaker 3: to us. I don't understand the obsession.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get I think a lot of people remember

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Speaker 1: the Cuban missile crisis. Russia actually had military installations ere

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Speaker 1: they did have nukes ninety miles away. But you know,

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Speaker 1: in a world of hypersonic missiles that can travel halfway

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Speaker 1: around the globe and matter of seconds, the geography of

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Speaker 1: the location of missiles isn't quite as important as it

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Speaker 1: used to be.

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Speaker 3: And plus that was, you know whatever, almost three quarters

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Speaker 3: of a century ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know that just anymore.

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Speaker 3: So there's there's literally nothing there that would cause us,

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Speaker 3: as a state objective the destruction of Cuba. And to me,

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Speaker 3: I'm it just doesn't look good globally that we have

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Speaker 3: this big power to the United States that is claiming

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Speaker 3: they're afraid of this tiny little island that can barely

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Speaker 3: keep the lights on and we're gonna crush them. I

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02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:13,320
Speaker 3: mean that that looks like the classic bully and I

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02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 3: don't think that's gonna help our interests worldwide if we

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Speaker 3: carry through with that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's our interest in bringing the casinos back in

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Speaker 1: a vacation destination. You could be right.

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Speaker 3: I hope that you're not, because that would be pretty

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02:10:29,200 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 3: pretty callous to destroy a government just so that we

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02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 3: can get somebody to go in there and make some

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02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:37,360
Speaker 3: money on it. But justin you can't eliminate that.

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Speaker 1: Just ain effort at levity, sir, that's all that was now.

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Speaker 11: Really it might not be levity.

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Speaker 1: That's probably yeah, all good comedy, there is some grain

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02:10:46,120 --> 02:10:49,440
Speaker 1: of truth built into it, and real quick anything that's

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Speaker 1: really pronounced. Instance ramost at a time between the Russian

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Speaker 1: and Ukraine situation, where are we on that one? Are

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Speaker 1: we still the status quo that we typically end on her?

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Speaker 3: This tomorrow is Orthodox Christmas on the seventh of January,

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02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 3: so things are kind of paused a little bit on

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Speaker 3: the on the front, there's still some activity going on,

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Speaker 3: but it's kind of low level. But there's a meeting

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Speaker 3: in Paris today where Witkoff and Jared Kushner and the

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Speaker 3: UN Ambassador Whittaker are there. I'm sorry, you know, Witcock

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Speaker 3: Whittaker are there to try and work on with Zelensky,

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Speaker 3: who just showed up a minute ago with Macron. They're

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Speaker 3: trying to find nail down security guarantees for Ukraine. Whittaker

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Speaker 3: said on Fox News this morning that he thinks that

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Speaker 3: are really close. I've heard that before. I doubt that

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Speaker 3: that's going to be the case, or at least close

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Speaker 3: to what is the question, But at least some diplomatic

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Speaker 3: activities are going on. I would look for kind of

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Speaker 3: a lull in things until sometime after the seventh and

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Speaker 3: then things could heat.

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Speaker 1: Back up pretty quick. I hear security guarantees. I think

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Speaker 1: of boots on the ground from major several different major countries,

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Speaker 1: including the United States. Is that maybe where we're going

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Speaker 1: on that that's what they want.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to get the American boots

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Speaker 3: on the ground, but apparently Zelenski's really trying hard to

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Speaker 3: get French and British boots on the ground, and for

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Speaker 3: some reason they're interested in talking about that. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why they would want.

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Speaker 7: To do it.

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Speaker 3: Russia has categorically and consistently said any boots that come

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Speaker 3: on the ground from any NATO force immediately become legitimate targets,

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Speaker 3: and I think they mean it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. I don't want to make fun of

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Speaker 1: the French army. It's too easy. Daniel Davis Deep Dive

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Speaker 1: a great week, my friend, and happy New year.

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Speaker 3: Again, same to you and thanks and I'll see you

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Speaker 3: next week.

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Speaker 1: This is JIF see Morning Show The Big Picture with

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Speaker 1: Jack added at seven oh five. Love talking to Jack

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Speaker 1: and I hope you enjoyed that as much as I do.

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Speaker 1: It's just so brilliant. Judge Edapoltano at eight thirty something

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Speaker 1: tells me he is not going to be approving of

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Speaker 1: the military intervention of them as well. History is any guide.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wait and find out on that one anyway.

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Speaker 1: Without further Dealt's score to the phones. I mentioned her

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Speaker 1: name earlier, Maureen, welcome back to the morning show. It's

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Speaker 1: good to hear from you as always.

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Speaker 8: Hi, Brian. Just a quick bit of news out of

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Speaker 8: South Florida here a grand jury is convening in South

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Speaker 8: Florida for Brennan Clapper, Hillary and Obama. Scheduled to take

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Speaker 8: place this week, next week somewhere in January. And that's

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Speaker 8: out of the News of New York Police Department inspector

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Speaker 8: Paul Morrow. He was a former News Fox News contributor.

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Speaker 8: I thought it might be a little bit interesting to you.

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Speaker 1: What's the subject matter of the indictment? What's the subject

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Speaker 1: matter of the grand jury?

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Speaker 8: Well, the reason it's in Florida is because of the

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Speaker 8: mar A Lago raid being unjust. So that's why they

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Speaker 8: were able to move it to have it here in Florida. Oh,

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Speaker 8: I see, so it's gonna yeah, the Palm Beach County. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: the raid of mar A Lago because it was under

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Speaker 8: false pretenses and just the connected, just all the things

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Speaker 8: that went on.

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Speaker 1: All right, well take place, Let's keep our popcorn out

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Speaker 1: and see what happens on that one slightly more conservative

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Speaker 1: venue than say New York for example. Then you're you

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Speaker 1: might you might actually see some justice or at least

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Speaker 1: an indictment handed down. I mentioned you earlier, real quick,

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Speaker 1: I'm want to put you on the spot. Even following

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Speaker 1: what's going on with the fraud of Minnesota. Uh, I

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Speaker 1: guess Tim Wallason is called it quits. He is no

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Speaker 1: longer running for a third term, and I think he

2543
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:29,520
Speaker 1: was trying to get out ahead of all of it.

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Speaker 1: He's going to clearly hit the fans sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: But he obviously has this massive fraud that happened on

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Speaker 1: his watch. He knows he's in somewhat of trouble. This

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Speaker 1: has made world global news. But the big question mark

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Speaker 1: is that the Democrats may have been using some of

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Speaker 1: that fraudulently obtained money to fund their own campaigns. And

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Speaker 1: it made me think, well, maybe Waltz knows that's coming,

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Speaker 1: and that shoe is going to drop, and he better

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Speaker 1: get out and make room for some other Democrat to

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Speaker 1: try to make good on running as a Democrat in

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Speaker 1: Minnesota before it really hits the fan. And your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that, my pattern observing friend.

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Speaker 8: I don't think even if he steps out, that he's

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Speaker 8: not going to protect him from what's coming his way.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, but don't protect the party. He may

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Speaker 1: he may get the weight of the wrath of God

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Speaker 1: from a crono perspective heap down upon him, or public

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Speaker 1: scrutiny heap down upon him. But if he gets out

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Speaker 1: of the way early enough, some credible and I use

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Speaker 1: that term loosely democrat might be able to withstand maybe

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Speaker 1: the relationship as being in the same party as Tim Walls.

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Speaker 8: Okay, that's true, I believe. I agree with that. I

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Speaker 8: agree with that. But seeking of that, did you see

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Speaker 8: the craiglist in Minnesota's asking for child actors? They put

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Speaker 8: out a craig for child actors. Maybe they're going to

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Speaker 8: pose his school kids.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, you know, I did see that. But going back

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Speaker 1: to the V. V. Ramaswami column about all the social

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Speaker 1: media this, that and the other thing that's going on

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Speaker 1: in the world, and the fact that there are so

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Speaker 1: many deep out there, I don't believe anything I see anymore, Maureene.

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Speaker 1: So it's tough for me to take things on face value.

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Speaker 1: Was it really a screen cap from a Craigslist or

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Speaker 1: did someone make it up whole cloth, which people are

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Speaker 1: wont to do these days.

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Speaker 8: It could be, it could be a kind of a

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Speaker 8: good joke.

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Speaker 1: I always got to acknowledge that possibility. The babylon Bee

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Speaker 1: comes up with some fun stuff along those lines. But

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Speaker 1: at least if it's got a babylon Bee radio or

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Speaker 1: a moniker, you know it's satire. Yeah, oh, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And just Strekker created aftab Pervol's calendar for the month

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Speaker 1: of January, which was mostly vacation days and a reminder

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Speaker 1: to make a car payment so you can do that. Maureene,

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Speaker 1: I know of you. I appreciate you tuning in from

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Speaker 1: South Florida. Hold the fort down there and keep a

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Speaker 1: surprise to what's going on with the grand jury if

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Speaker 1: you get any more information on it. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: the heads up. See here real quick, I guess the

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Speaker 1: weird story that I saw this morning. It's not necessarily weird,

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Speaker 1: but I feel so badly for the folks in the

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Speaker 1: West End struggling with is they do every single day,

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Speaker 1: with all the crime that's going on. The whole reality

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Speaker 1: that in spite of the fact they were promised these

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Speaker 1: cameras in the camera installations for the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: they haven't been dyne. So Scott Wortman, or at the Inquirer,

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Speaker 1: started asking some questions of council. No one seems to

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Speaker 1: really know anything about it, yeah, said, reached out to

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Speaker 1: members of council as well as the administration. They also

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Speaker 1: submitted open records request, which is thus far as I

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Speaker 1: understand it, been ignored, looking for surveillance footage and any

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Speaker 1: information about the installation of those security cameras. Accorded to Whartman,

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Speaker 1: one councilman told him that as end of November, many

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Speaker 1: of the security cameras in the neighborhood weren't operational. Another

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Speaker 1: said the administration told him a singular camera near the

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Speaker 1: playground is functioning, and yet no one's produced any video

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Speaker 1: from that. Neither the Cincinni Police Department or since a

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Speaker 1: city manager's office, could answer any questions. At least as

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Speaker 1: of Monday afternoon on this the Enquirer's open records requests

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Speaker 1: were not filled. Shocking, so a council of seth Walt

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Speaker 1: told the Enquirer an assistant city administrator told him that

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Speaker 1: at the end of November, the city was still awaiting

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Speaker 1: permission from private property owners and Duke Energy to install

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Speaker 1: many of the new cameras on the West End, which

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Speaker 1: is fine. Homeowners may be a stumbling block, but pivoting

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Speaker 1: over Duke Energy. What if Duke Energy's approval. Duke Energy

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Speaker 1: spokesman John Joyce said the utility company doesn't have any

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Speaker 1: pending requests from the city to put cameras on utility polls.

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Speaker 1: In the West End. Huh okay Wal Stephen acknowledges as

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Speaker 1: an issue that has been going on for years. We

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Speaker 1: pledged these cameras two and a half years ago. Well,

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Speaker 1: apparently you need to ask Duke and that hasn't been

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Speaker 1: done yet. Oh look, as I stare at my how

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Speaker 1: your neighborhood voted for mayor chart West End eighty approval

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Speaker 1: and the current makeup of council. Okay, sticker out or

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Speaker 1: sting around Glenbex, coming right up. Thanks,