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Speaker 1: Fan Sierra Nevada Ruined Company brings our nest next guest

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Speaker 1: to the phone, Nacho Liber, Ben Leber. If you have

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Speaker 1: available the Bradshawn Bryant caffe and text line at six

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Speaker 1: four six eighty six. I guess you could tweet directly

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Speaker 1: at him, Nacho Liber as well. Whatever works for you, Ben.

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Speaker 1: Why did we lose to the Baltimore Ravens twenty seven

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Speaker 1: to nineteen yesterday afternoon?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, I mean, if you want to really want

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Speaker 2: to simplify it, they had thirteen points off of our

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Speaker 2: three gibs and we had zero points off of our

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Speaker 2: zero take. So I would say, right there, that's that's

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Speaker 2: the game. And I'm not saying that you can't go

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Speaker 2: into every game and expect not to turn the ball

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Speaker 2: oger at least once, especially playing a pretty you know,

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Speaker 2: at least recently a better playing defense. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of what it boils down to you. And

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Speaker 2: then then obviously there's this stuff with the false starts

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Speaker 2: and all the other things, but that was all like

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Speaker 2: in an effort to try to claw our way back

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Speaker 2: into the game. But yeah, it was kind of the turnovers.

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Speaker 1: Certainly didn't help, that's for sure. I felt like early

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Speaker 1: Baltimore seems sluggish. I thought our defense was playing well.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we had the first good offensive, good scoring drive

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Speaker 1: that you know, we didn't sustain that. But when I

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Speaker 1: looked up at the scoreboard, the old cliche and you

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Speaker 1: see it's your winning, but it's ten to nine, That

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Speaker 1: to me is largely where I felt like the game

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Speaker 1: might have been lost, because I felt, on the basis

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Speaker 1: of the body of work in the field, that the

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Speaker 1: Vikings should have been further ahead at the half when

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Speaker 1: they were, because I didn't think Jackson looked particularly dynamic,

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Speaker 1: you know, certainly as dynamic as he can look running

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Speaker 1: and throwing the ball. But I felt it shouldn't be ten.

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Speaker 1: If it's ten to nine, that's got to be a

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Speaker 1: little bit scary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was actually surprised by the ten to nine because

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Speaker 2: I went into the game. I had convinced myself that

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Speaker 2: it was going to be a higher spelling game, and

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Speaker 2: much higher spelling game, you know, based off of the

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Speaker 2: momentum that we had from Detroit, based on what I

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Speaker 2: know thought I knew about Baltimore, and like, look, I

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Speaker 2: want to give our defense a lot of credit because

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Speaker 2: they played well enough to win. But I think going

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Speaker 2: into the game it was more of like, man, you know,

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Speaker 2: they got this two headed monster thing. They got some

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Speaker 2: pretty good receivers. Like, you know, I was thinking this

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Speaker 2: is going to be a twenty eight, twenty four type

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Speaker 2: of victory for us, and it was kind of a

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Speaker 2: slug fest, you know, in that first half. And I

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Speaker 2: look back on it now though, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: think that Todd Munkin, the offensive coordinator for the Ravens,

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Speaker 2: kind of took the very intentional approach of like, we

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Speaker 2: don't have to be explosive. We let's just take care

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Speaker 2: of the football, let's move the chains. Of course they

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Speaker 2: want some of those runs to hit a little bit more,

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Speaker 2: but we did a great job kind of kind of

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Speaker 2: bottling everything up, aside from a couple of big plays.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that they tried to stretch the field.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they wanted to take any shots. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they wanted to put Lamar in a five

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Speaker 2: or seven step drop. I think it was very intentional

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Speaker 2: about the methodical nature of their game plan and ended

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Speaker 3: Why weren't we more methodical with the running game.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, I think a lot has

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Speaker 2: to do with just the game. The game sequence gets

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Speaker 2: gets away from us a little bit with all the

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Speaker 2: false starts. You know now, now four of those false

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Speaker 2: starts took place in the fourth quarter, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure that we're much of a running team so much

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter when we don't when we don't

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Speaker 2: have a lead. But you know, I think it did.

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Speaker 2: It did throw us off, you know, play calling wise,

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Speaker 2: and so many of them happened on first down, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, well, you know, if we want to get

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Speaker 2: the second manageable, I don't know if we need to

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Speaker 2: run the football here again, although hindsight, you know, we

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Speaker 2: finished the game. I think between both of our backs,

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Speaker 2: you take away McCarthy scrambling, you know, we're running for

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Speaker 2: what five run? That's right, you know, that's pretty darn good.

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Speaker 3: It's very good.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I agree on the false starts again, different reasons.

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Speaker 1: The company line is everybody needs to you know, look internally,

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Speaker 1: and everybody contributed to it. But you're not going to

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Speaker 1: reason is not that the way the quarterback handled the cadence.

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Speaker 1: It to me, it's too much of a coincidence to

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Speaker 1: think that suddenly got a bunch of people, including a

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Speaker 1: That we're getting confused whether it was they thought the

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Speaker 1: play was being the ball was being snapped at one

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Speaker 1: of at one of those huts, or that they didn't

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Speaker 1: know that that, you know, JJ was going to try

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Speaker 1: to change the play again, it's got to be that's

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Speaker 1: got to be a big piece of this, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: It feels like that, you know. The thing is though,

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Speaker 2: you know, I heard Kos's presser today and you know,

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Speaker 2: he's like, look it, this wasn't one. There wasn't a

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Speaker 2: smoking gun, you know, and it wasn't just about the

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Speaker 2: one thing. It's it's mystifying for sure when you have

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Speaker 2: veteran guys doing it, especially O'Neill who did it twice.

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Speaker 2: And and the one that's the one that I can't

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Speaker 2: figure out is how often do you see the quarterback

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Speaker 2: fall starting? Yeah, you know, when the quarterback gets called

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Speaker 2: for a false start, it's like, okay, what where's the

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Speaker 2: disconnect with what he's calling in the huddle, what he

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Speaker 2: thinks when he thinks the ball is going to come

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Speaker 2: out on whatever caller cadence, and then all other ten

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Speaker 2: guys don't move. It's like, Okay, something's really off, you know,

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Speaker 2: in the in the huddle, in the design of the

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Speaker 2: play calls or something for this particular game. Maybe they

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Speaker 2: had certain checks, Maybe they changed up the code word

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Speaker 2: that they they wanted to use for this particular game.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they had some inside on the Ravens kind of

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Speaker 2: knew something about their cadence or whatever. They're going to

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Speaker 2: try to get off on the ball a little quicker,

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Speaker 2: So maybe they change up stuff stuff that they hadn't

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Speaker 2: done the past. So I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm confident that they're going to get it figured out

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Speaker 2: by the Chicago game because it has to.

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Speaker 4: We can't.

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Speaker 2: We can't play that sloppy before the balls even start.

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Speaker 1: Does Jefferson have to make that catch on what I

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Speaker 1: thought was one of McCarthy's better throws over the middle

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, it was a dart,

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Speaker 2: came with some some hot sauce on it. But if

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Speaker 2: you want to be the best in the in the world,

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Speaker 2: and I think he is you got to make that catch.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough catch, don't get me wrong. I mean

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Speaker 2: you got on your back yep, and you see the receiver,

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Speaker 2: you see you see the safety. There's some color there

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Speaker 2: that that possibly could blow you up, you know, but

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Speaker 2: you know you've got to focus in on that ball

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Speaker 2: coming in pretty hot and make that catch. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think he's got to make that grab.

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Speaker 1: Does Some of the jackals, including our four four o'clock

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Speaker 1: guess Johnny Athletic, very unsettled by what they thought was

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Speaker 1: some not great body language from Jefferson after the I

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Speaker 1: iNTS in terms of effort. Now, one of those I

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Speaker 1: think he knew was down by contact, which I think

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Speaker 1: Johnny Acknowledge and others have as well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I have a hard time getting two

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Speaker 1: I if I'm bothered by anything about but JJ I

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Speaker 1: thought it was more he was in one of those

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Speaker 1: for PI calls almost every time he went out in

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Speaker 1: a pattern. But as a as a former player, would

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Speaker 1: you be bugged if you sense that a teammate on

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Speaker 1: offense doesn't seem all that interested in trying to you know,

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Speaker 1: bring the interceptor down or are we making too much

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Speaker 2: I honestly think we're making too much of it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not even something I noticed during the game. You

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Speaker 2: know that fifty to fifty ball that was that was

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Speaker 2: thrown in zero coverage, which I mean, I saw it

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Speaker 2: clear as day that even though he was running. I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: he's down by contact. He's just wasting injury right now.

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Speaker 2: I know that he probably didn't hear the whistle, and

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Speaker 2: maybe that wasn't a whistle, but I'm like, it's very

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Speaker 2: obvious that he hit him actually in mid air when

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Speaker 2: he made that play, and so he's down by contact.

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Speaker 2: So I understand that one, Like, why give all this

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Speaker 2: extra effort when I know that he's down one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent is down? The other one, you know, it's thrown

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Speaker 2: in a double coverage, and you know, I never thought

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Speaker 2: that there was a lack of effort. You know, maybe

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Speaker 2: some body language that's unbecoming of Justin Jefferson, But look, man,

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Speaker 2: he's built up so much equity he is. He's such

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Speaker 2: a dog when it comes to his effort and the

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Speaker 2: on that team that No, he's got to show me

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Speaker 2: a lot more, a lot more egregiousness than what they're

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Speaker 2: talking about right now, and he's got to do it

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Speaker 2: for a longer period of time before I'm on on

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Speaker 2: that team, you know, starting to question whether his efforts

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Speaker 1: Seven to six three guy asks me to ask you

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Speaker 1: what you thought of the Vikings time management under two

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Speaker 1: minutes before the half. We got the ball squander at

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Speaker 1: the time handed it back for a way too easy

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Speaker 1: field goal to make it ten to nine.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. You know, if I

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Speaker 2: we had a minute eleven left to go in the

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Speaker 2: in the first half, we get the ball with two timeouts.

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Speaker 2: At the end of that that drive that sequence, I

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Speaker 2: think only thirty two seconds the game clock had went

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Speaker 2: off off the board there. So yeah, I mean every

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Speaker 2: coach talks about it, and we've heard koc talk about it.

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Speaker 2: You got to win that middle eight that four minutes

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Speaker 2: at the end of the first half and the four

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Speaker 2: those moments where you need to own that middle eight

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Speaker 2: and you need to go down there with the score

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Speaker 2: views up all of your time, don't allow the Ravens

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Speaker 2: to even have a possession in which they went down

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Speaker 2: and scored three points on and then you want to

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Speaker 2: get the ball back. It's the whole reason why you defer.

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Speaker 2: You want to get the ball back and the start

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Speaker 2: of the second half and own that possession as well

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Speaker 2: and hopefully get some points. And we've seen it, We've

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Speaker 2: been on both sides of it. But that is a

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Speaker 2: momentum shifter. I mean that changes the game plan. If

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Speaker 2: they go down there, let's say they get a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: there's fourteen points on the board in a span of

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Speaker 2: a couple minutes. That changes their approach and now puts

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Speaker 2: it puts them a little bit of aggressiveness that they

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Speaker 2: didn't want to have in the second half offensively. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't even like to run on third and three,

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Speaker 3: And not all teams are built the same way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jones looks fresh as hell now again. I

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Speaker 2: So he'll get there. I definitely have faith that JJ's

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Speaker 3: Top splash Player of the Game for Ben Lever.

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Speaker 2: Hop Splash Sierra, Nevada's Hop Splash Player of the Game.

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Speaker 2: I'm cheating, okay, Dan, I'm gonna cheat. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: with both of our inside linebackers, Cashman and Eric Wilson.

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Speaker 1: It to those two guys who was the running back

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we got the Bears, got the NFC North news,

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Speaker 2: Well, you just said the word that I was I

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Speaker 2: haven't played great teams. I mean, you take these wins

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Speaker 2: and it fuels you, you know, it motivates you. It

436
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Speaker 2: in their case, the way that they're able to come

437
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Speaker 2: from behind, the way that they're able to watch their

438
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Speaker 2: playmaker quarterback go out there and make plays like it's

439
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 2: all just building confidence. It's all just another building block

440
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Speaker 2: to their whole season and what they want to build from,

441
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Speaker 2: not this year, but beyond. And that's the one thing

442
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Speaker 2: that you know, it does worry me. You know, we're

443
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Speaker 2: we're still trying to figure out where we sit, and

444
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Speaker 2: they probably feel like, hey, we're very comfortable with where

445
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Speaker 2: we are. And we like this game plan. We like

446
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Speaker 2: that what we can do. We know that division games

447
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Speaker 2: are tougher, they're a different animal, and they got to

448
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Speaker 2: come into our place with our fans, and you look

449
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Speaker 2: at it from the positive things from our game is

450
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Speaker 2: that you can fix self inflicted wounds. You know, it's

451
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Speaker 2: frustrating for us to walk away from the Ravens game

452
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Speaker 2: feel like it's a game that we lost versus a

453
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Speaker 2: game that the Ravens won. But to have that comfort

454
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: knowing that these are fixable problems and if like we

455
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: just fixed some of these very easy, correctable things into

456
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Speaker 2: the next game, we're still a hell of a football team.

457
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Speaker 2: I think it'd be different if we walked in and

458
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Speaker 2: it was playing the Ravens and it felt like the

459
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Speaker 2: Chargers game and we're soul searching and we're like, whoa,

460
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Speaker 2: what just happened? Like we don't even know where to

461
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Speaker 2: begin because everything went bad because they were just way

462
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Speaker 2: better than us on this particular day. So I'm not

463
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Speaker 2: super super concerned about where we are. I know that

464
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Speaker 2: we're going to figure it out, and I know that

465
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Speaker 2: we're going to bring some extra juice because it's a

466
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Speaker 2: division game.

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Speaker 1: Well finish with this. This is from seven to six three, guy, Nacho.

468
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Speaker 1: It goes without saying can break down a game like

469
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Speaker 1: no one else. So the fans are still out there

470
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Speaker 1: in your favor. If your own confidence was it all wavering,

471
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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not here to suggest it was, that

472
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Speaker 1: might be the confidence boost you're looking for. A text

473
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Speaker 1: out of nowhere giving you a great credit for the

474
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Speaker 1: way you break.

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Speaker 3: Down a game.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that does make me feel really good. You know,

477
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Speaker 2: I was, I was having one of those like moonday, Yeah,

478
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Speaker 2: having a Moonday, and it happens to the best of

479
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: us having one of those days, and for no real reason,

480
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Speaker 2: it's just so man, you know, thank you. Who was

481
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Speaker 2: that again?

482
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Speaker 1: Guy? Yeah, you didn't have a name, but I just

483
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Speaker 1: go with the area code. Yeah, I think it's seven

484
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Speaker 1: six three, let's be clear.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah, seven sixth three.

486
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Speaker 1: Guys, So he you, he wins you, You win him over,

487
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Speaker 1: and then maybe you feel a little bit better about

488
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Speaker 1: yourself the rest of the afternoon.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, see there it goes.

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Speaker 2: You know, seven sixth three. Guy, I'm going to give

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Speaker 2: you a virtual hug right now.

492
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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll hug it out. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All you can ask for. I have a wonderful week,

495
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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you next week.

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Speaker 3: Thanks man.

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Speaker 2: All right, and Dan, I promise you I'll give you

498
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Speaker 2: a real hug the next time I see you.

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Speaker 3: I I got no problems with that. You know that.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

501
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Speaker 1: I don't even remember the last time I've seen you.

502
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Speaker 1: Now that's my fault.

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Speaker 3: I never go to game.

504
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Speaker 1: I never go to games. That's the problem. That's the

505
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Speaker 1: The jackals are on me for that. But uh, maybe

506
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Speaker 1: maybe I'll maybe maybe this's the week Bears week, maybe.

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Speaker 3: You'll see it's possible. Yeah, thanks man.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ma Nacho Ben Lieber kind of enough to

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Speaker 1: join us. Let's get to another very saucy Vikings talking point,

510
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Speaker 1: and then we'll prepare to talk air travel because there's

511
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Speaker 1: a lot to get to there. It's a very timely

512
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Speaker 1: subject with the thrifty traveler guy Kyle Potter. He is

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Speaker 1: scheduled for five thirty oh.

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Speaker 3: No famous moments en a gas offense.

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Speaker 5: All right, well, let's up flip the script on that,

516
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Speaker 5: score a lot of points and actually win the game.

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Speaker 7: Really they're gonna okay McCarthy, now with the faull start really,

518
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Speaker 7: Paul start by.

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Speaker 3: The offense number nine and firegar penalty its first down.

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Speaker 8: Join us again another famous moments in a gas offense.

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Speaker 1: Well Leaver alluded to it, and I always like to

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Speaker 1: call this particular subject and a throwback and homage to

523
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Speaker 1: the salad days at the Metrodome you met in the

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Speaker 1: junk truck.

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Speaker 9: By the way, I want to give you a grand

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Speaker 9: in your hand as bucks. No, that's okay, grand, I

527
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Speaker 9: should have done it coming back. Grand is the final

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Speaker 9: keyword of the night Cafe dot com keyword Grand Salad

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Speaker 9: Days Metrodome Walks will haunt if.

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Speaker 5: It's third and six for the Vikings three to five.

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Speaker 5: On third down, Kyle Hamilton threatens blitz from the front

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Speaker 5: side of McCarthy, then he backs off. JJ takes the snap,

533
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Speaker 5: throws deep right side.

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Speaker 3: Jefferson intercept it.

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Speaker 5: Malakai Starks. Harry comes to the twenty five thirty angles

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Speaker 5: to the middle of the field of the forty. Jordan

537
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Speaker 5: Addison runs him down from behind at the forty seven

538
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Speaker 5: yard line. Fifth interception this year for j. J. McCarthy,

539
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Speaker 5: and he floated that one up there too much, picked

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Speaker 5: off by rookie Malachi Stark, who now has two interceptions

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Speaker 5: this year, third and short two tight ends, they're batanced offset.

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Speaker 5: I right, McCarthy on third and one is going to

543
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Speaker 5: pass from under center. He's going to go deep. Jefferson

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Speaker 5: him now and Marlon Humphrey picked it up, picked it

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Speaker 5: off at the five yard line. The veteran Marlon Humphrey

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Speaker 5: heads up the field lazy lead to the fifteen. Now

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Speaker 5: he sprints twenty twenty five and JJ McCarthy has thrown

548
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Speaker 5: two interceptions. He's sprinting over to the sideline. There's the

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Speaker 5: loop kit. Here comes Miles Price to the five to

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Speaker 5: ten fifteen. He dropped the ball at the twenty two

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Speaker 5: yard line. Miles Price second fumble this year at the

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Speaker 5: twenty two may give the Ravens the ball and very

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Speaker 5: good field position after they just grabbed the lead.

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Speaker 3: It's a scrum.

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Speaker 5: It's a scrum. Three officials in there to establish who

556
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Speaker 5: has the ball. Miles Price fumbled at the twenty two

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Speaker 5: to twenty three Ravens ball for minus three and they take.

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Speaker 3: Divery kidding me? Are you kidding me? Could have in

559
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Speaker 3: minus four The next kickoff of the next kickoff was crazy.

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Speaker 3: He fumbled it. Then the next guy it up.

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Speaker 1: I can remember who picked it up. Yeah, I'm stunned.

562
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Speaker 1: We got that one back that would have obviously been.

563
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Speaker 3: A killer.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you're in that goofy zone with Price because

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Speaker 1: you do not want to you do not want to

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Speaker 1: discourage what he the kind of weapon that he's already

567
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Speaker 1: proven that he can be, so you got to ride

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Speaker 1: it out.

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't.

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Speaker 1: Think you can bench him because he's a really good

571
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Speaker 1: seems to be a really good return man.

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Speaker 3: But again, if I tried.

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Speaker 1: With a straight face to pick the Vikings to beat

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, you're not going to give yourself much of

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Speaker 1: a chance, whatever you think of the relative strengths of

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Speaker 1: the two teams. If you're down oh three right in

577
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Speaker 1: the takeaways, that's just not no chance.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be very realistic. And they scored on

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Speaker 3: all three. They did score all right, thirteen points.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the other reason I thought earlier that the

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Speaker 1: Vikings were in good shape, because the Ravens had to

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Speaker 1: keep settling for field goals, and the way the games fell,

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Speaker 1: we played as well. Eventually, that's going to catch up

584
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Speaker 1: with them, right that they're that they're they're having to

585
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: settle for three points. But our offense wasn't good enough

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Speaker 1: to make them pay for any of that. It wasn't

587
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Speaker 1: consistent enough. It wasn't good enough. And where it was

588
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: good enough, we didn't. We didn't even bother to use it.

589
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: As it pertains to the to the ground game as well.

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00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: So we sit now. We continued to be in last

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Speaker 1: place in the division. The Lions recovered, perhaps as expected

592
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Speaker 1: from losing to US last week. They just toyed with

593
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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders, who are without their number one quarterback.

594
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Speaker 1: They scored in the forties, didn't they the Lions. They

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Speaker 1: were clinical offensively, they in a way that they we

596
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Speaker 1: not did not allow them to the week before. And

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Speaker 1: then you've got the Packers tonight.

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Speaker 3: Hosting the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: They tell me it's going to be bare weather at Lambeau.

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Speaker 1: I think in the thirties with a lot of wind.

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00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't the ESPN crew looks chilly. There is there

602
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Speaker 1: any precip because like Chicago area, there's parts of Chicago

603
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: area and like Kenosha, Wisconsin just got obliterated with snow.

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Speaker 1: They had like a clipper come through and they got

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Speaker 1: a lot of snow. My sister, the coach, originally told

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Speaker 1: me they were supposed to get a foot but I

607
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Speaker 1: think it ended up staying closer to the lake than

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Speaker 1: she is. So I don't know if they ended up

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Speaker 1: getting all that much in Loving, Lovely Barrington, Illinois.

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Speaker 9: Just clouds tonight in Crane Bay with the lower around

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Speaker 9: twenty three.

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Speaker 3: So chili.

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Speaker 9: That's chili col for early November. Yeah, yeah, that's chili.

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Speaker 9: They may get some snow tomorrow, but nothing tonight.

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Speaker 1: Bears, as we talked about with Lieber, I, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about them. I've been

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Speaker 1: disparaging them, maybe too much on the basis of who

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Speaker 1: they're playing.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, the.

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Speaker 1: Giants are up ten, driving right on the field with

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Speaker 1: the kid quarterback, and he's I want to say, he'd

622
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Speaker 1: gotten a first down to like the twenty on an end,

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Speaker 1: like a running a kind of a bootleg around the

624
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Speaker 1: left side. But then he was reckless with the ball.

625
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: He fumbles the ball, gets hit pretty hard, fumbles the ball,

626
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: and the Bears recover. That's what changed the game. The

627
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: Giants were on the verge of going up seventeen or

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Speaker 1: thirteen if they have to settle for a field and

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Speaker 1: ultimately the Bears did get two touchdowns. So maybe they

630
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: would have won anyway. I don't know, but the game,

631
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Speaker 1: the momentum of the whole game switched at that point.

632
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Speaker 1: And as exasperating as Caleb can be, as inconsistent as

633
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Speaker 1: he can be in terms of putting the ball on

634
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Speaker 1: the receiver, in this case, I think they had seven

635
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: dropped passes.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

637
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Speaker 1: Their offensive line did not protect the QB at all.

638
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Speaker 1: And this is one of those games where you got

639
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Speaker 1: to give William's credit that he won it almost on

640
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: his own by his escapability making some plays that ultimately

641
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown was him scrambling around left end

642
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: when I think like twenty five yards something like that.

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Speaker 3: So and the Giants have seen enough. They relieved Brian David.

644
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Speaker 3: They got rid of that.

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Speaker 1: They did that was you could see it in his face.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually what I was watching the game. He had

647
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Speaker 1: one of those like oversized Belichick hoodies and the.

648
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Speaker 3: Hood was up. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He made it seem like it was like the Wind

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Speaker 1: Shows minus thirty and kind.

651
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Speaker 3: Of looks like Larry the Cable guy while he's wearing

652
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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's true, but the look on his face I really

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Speaker 1: felt was I'm done. I'm not going to recover from this.

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Speaker 1: You could sense it, and that indeed was the case.

656
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Speaker 1: So as Leeber said, I don't know, I mean it,

657
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Speaker 1: if you keep winning, you start gaining some confidence. Because

658
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: remember the Bear started strong last year, then they had

659
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Speaker 1: that mess in Washington and never recovered. They were one

660
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Speaker 1: of the worst team record wise. The ended up being

661
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Speaker 1: one of the worst teams in the league. And so

662
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Speaker 1: you got to give the new coach credit for something.

663
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Speaker 1: Something is kicking in regarding what they what they're their

664
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Speaker 1: clutch offense lately is clearly improved over what it was.

665
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Speaker 1: And by the way they can run the damn ball.

666
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: They got to their second run their second string running back.

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Speaker 1: I can't even pronounce it. Is it the Mahanga? No,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember Monong guy.

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Speaker 3: That's his name. Very good.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, what's the river where Pittsburgh

671
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Speaker 1: is Manongahela.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what I thought his name was.

673
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: He's surprisingly affected and then Swift, who I gave up

674
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: on and the Lions gave up on.

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Speaker 3: He looks reborn. He's been really really good this year.

676
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Speaker 1: And and by the way, third and seven or second

677
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: and se or second and ten.

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Speaker 3: Can be a running.

679
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Speaker 1: Call for them, and not all teams are built the

680
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: same way. But I honestly believe we have a coach

681
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: who doesn't understand that it is legal on second and

682
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Speaker 1: ten to hand them all off. Because the thinking isn't

683
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Speaker 1: that you're going to get all ten realistically, but what if.

684
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Speaker 3: You get six? Right? It's the old third and makeup

685
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: ale kind of a thing.

686
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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with, you know, having the difference on

687
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Speaker 1: a second and ten giving the defense something to think about,

688
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean it had to be as predictable

689
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Speaker 1: as hell.

690
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Speaker 3: For the Ravens. And you heard burst its earlier.

691
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Speaker 1: Via the talking point say, well, the way they're playing defense,

692
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Speaker 1: you can't forget the running game, the way there, the

693
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Speaker 1: way their secondary is set up, by the way, who's

694
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Speaker 1: the safety that we passed on that we could have

695
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: gotten and the year we moved down?

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Speaker 9: Yeah for Lucy, Oh my god, Yeah, I know what

697
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 9: a player. I even watched the game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: If I were him, I'd have a hard time doing it,

699
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: I admit, because there'd be a lot of self loathing.

700
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Speaker 1: There have to be after that. I mean, that's just

701
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: that that guy's he's a big time.

702
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

703
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Speaker 9: Yeah, the mess will be traded down fifty seven spots.

704
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Speaker 1: You get six extra spots, extra picks, which we've squandered

705
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: most of those too, I think.

706
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 3: And unfortunately for lewis seen he's not with us anymore.

707
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: Is he in the league? Think he is?

708
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 9: I think we played him, Yeah, but I can't say

709
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 9: he's on anybody's fantasy team.

710
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Speaker 1: The aviation industry is kind of a mess right now,

711
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Speaker 1: a lot of flights postponed, canceled, whatever the case may be.

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00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: Very special guest Kyle Potter, three feet Traveler AMN dot

713
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Speaker 1: com is going to join us next to kind of

714
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Speaker 1: update us on how upset the industry is. What the

715
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: average rubes, you know, I guess alternatives are, what their

716
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: rights are if they get caught in the middle of

717
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Speaker 1: a flight that's been canceled because there's been a lot

718
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Speaker 1: of cutbacks. How quickly might the system get back to

719
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Speaker 1: one hundred percent once if, as expected, the shut down

720
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Speaker 1: is over. We'll get to all those things and more

721
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Speaker 1: with Kyle Potter. That is coming up next here in

722
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Speaker 1: the Fan.

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Speaker 10: Time now for the Vikings Report on the Fan, presented

724
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Speaker 10: by Miller Lyte. Vikings wide receiver Adam Thielen joins Denver

725
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Speaker 10: Room next.

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Speaker 1: All right, We've had a lot of Vikings conversation today,

727
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: as we always do on a Monday, and there'll be

728
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Speaker 1: time later this hour and into the six o'clock half

729
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: hour to revisit more Vikings talking points. But every once

730
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Speaker 1: in a while story comes along that I think, given

731
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Speaker 1: our listenership that includes I think a lot of people

732
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Speaker 1: that move around the area, move around the country in

733
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Speaker 1: some cases, move around the world generally using air you know,

734
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Speaker 1: air travel that we didn't want to keep putting off.

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Speaker 1: What guards He had reminded me last week to get

736
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Speaker 1: to with UH with Kyle Potter, thrifty traveler guy UH

737
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Speaker 1: in fact yesterday and he'll probably appreciate this. I had

738
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Speaker 1: several text from people saying, what are you going to

739
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Speaker 1: have him on? So you are in the public kfe

740
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Speaker 1: in bumper to bumper slash Sunday Sermon's consciousness.

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Speaker 3: That's that can't be all bad, correct.

742
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Speaker 4: No, I'm curious. I'm glad you've clarified that she's got

743
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Speaker 4: a lot of people who are traveling around the world

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Speaker 4: on aircraft, because I'm curious how many are traveling the

745
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Speaker 4: excume at that point.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. Well, you know, I'm a throwback.

747
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a throwback. I'm a romantic. I'm a

748
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: romantic guy who you know, wishes I could have taken

749
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Speaker 1: a you know, a boat across the pond to Europe

750
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Speaker 1: or something, which I guess you still can if you

751
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: want to write or does that not even exist anymore?

752
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 4: There's no time like the president and to guard these

753
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: point that might be the best bet right now.

754
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Speaker 3: Well, you're right exactly it, all right?

755
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: So tell us give me all your best analytics on

756
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Speaker 1: the percentages of flight the percentage of flights that are

757
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Speaker 1: basically just going away. What the last this weekend has

758
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: been like? Is it dogs and cats living together? Open chaos?

759
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: Not quite as bad as that? How would you describe

760
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Speaker 1: the current scene during this shutdown period that allegedly is

761
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Speaker 1: about to end.

762
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Speaker 4: So I'll put it this way, Yesterday Sunday was one

763
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Speaker 4: of the worst days in the air travel that we've

764
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Speaker 4: had in the last two plus years. There were nearly

765
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Speaker 4: three thousand flights nationwide canceled and more than ten thousand delayed.

766
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Speaker 4: Today isn't looking a whole lot better than that. The

767
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Speaker 4: final numbers might might finish out a little bit better,

768
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Speaker 4: but not by a whole lot we're still in. This

769
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Speaker 4: is this is everything hitting the fan, basically, all at once,

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Speaker 4: I think, most importantly, every time I've come on and

771
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Speaker 4: we've talked about, you know, air travel melting down, it

772
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 4: has generally speaking been one airline. It was Delta last

773
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Speaker 4: summer as a result of the crowd strikeoutage in July

774
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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty four. It was Southwest in you know

775
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 4: winter Christmas twenty twenty two into early twenty twenty three.

776
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Speaker 4: And this time it is everyone. Everyone is struggling. Some

777
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 4: airlines are struggling more than others to try to catch

778
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Speaker 4: up and get planes moving. But there really isn't a

779
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 4: safe haven here. Everybody is struggling, which means, you know,

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Speaker 4: if you're traveling on a plane, your odds are perhaps

781
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Speaker 4: greater than they've ever been that you're not going to

782
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Speaker 4: get where you need to go on time, if at all.

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Speaker 1: So well, maybe I can introduce this next subject with

784
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Speaker 1: a text from six to one to two. Guy who

785
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: asks you clee claims he can't find the answer anyplace else.

786
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Speaker 1: I've got a kid flying home from Hartford in two

787
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Speaker 1: weeks for Thanksgiving. Will this mech mess be fixed by then?

788
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Speaker 1: Is it specifically departures from MSP or both departures and arrivals.

789
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Speaker 4: Well, well, it's everything, and I will admit six one

790
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 4: two guys, I don't know if the Delta non stops

791
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 4: to Hartford. We're on the list of federally mandated cuts.

792
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Speaker 6: You know.

793
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Speaker 2: I think the question on everyone's.

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Speaker 4: Mind is is this going to drag into Thanksgiving? And

795
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 4: you know, I think the good good issues is that,

796
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Speaker 4: you know, if the deal in Congress moves through at

797
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 4: some point this week, we'll be we should be past

798
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Speaker 4: the worst of it. But I do think we're still

799
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Speaker 4: going to continue to see lingering problems with air travels,

800
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Speaker 4: probably at least a couple of weeks. Nothing on the

801
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 4: scale of what I just talked about, you know, Sunday

802
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: and again today, I hope knock on wood. But you know,

803
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: the Department of Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said over the

804
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Speaker 4: weekend that in normal times, pre shutdowns, THEESAA would lose

805
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: you know, somewhere around four air traffic controllers a day

806
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 4: to retirement, career changes, whatever, and over the past few

807
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 4: days that's been more like fifteen or twenty. And oh,

808
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 4: by the way, all hiring recruiting and training of new

809
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Speaker 4: air traffic controllers has been paused for the last forty

810
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Speaker 4: plus days, which means, and the way that Secretary Duffy

811
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Speaker 4: put this is that this is going to have impacts

812
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Speaker 4: that lasts far beyond whenever the government reopens. Now again,

813
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Speaker 4: I don't want people to think this means it's going

814
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Speaker 4: to be pure chaos over Thanksgiving, but you know that

815
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Speaker 4: is the single busiest travel period of the year typically,

816
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: and I don't want people to think that it's going

817
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 4: to be completely smooth sailing in a couple of weeks,

818
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: because all signs are pointing to there being some lingering

819
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Speaker 4: issues with travel disruptions, especially when things get really busy.

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Speaker 1: All right, So what are the rights of the average

821
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Speaker 1: room under these circumstances?

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Speaker 4: You know, really not much here. Travelers in the United

823
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 4: States don't have much in the way of rights when

824
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Speaker 4: things go wrong in air travel, especially when it's not

825
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 4: the fault of the airline and it is something like

826
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Speaker 4: a work shortage for the FAA as we're seeing now,

827
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Speaker 4: or whether you know, we've all been in those situations

828
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Speaker 4: where there's been a bad storm and you get stuck

829
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Speaker 4: somewhere overnight and you try to get something from the

830
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: airline and they tell you to pounce SAMs, and that's

831
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Speaker 4: what's going to happen here. The one right that we

832
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: really have that does come in handy now is that

833
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: the airline cancels your flight for whatever reason, including weather,

834
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Speaker 4: including you say, a federal government issues driven by a

835
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Speaker 4: forty day shutdown, you can cancel your entire reservation and

836
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 4: get a refund, not just a credit that might fire

837
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 4: a year or less, but actually get your money back,

838
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: which means, you know, if you're traveling this week and

839
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Speaker 4: things aren't looking good and you're happy to say, you

840
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 4: know what, I don't need to take this trip. I

841
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: can try again later this year or sometime next year,

842
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: you can cancel that flight altogether and get a refund

843
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: back to your original form of payment. And that's kind

844
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: of it. It's not nothing, but it's there.

845
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Speaker 1: So do you have to be proactive If you decide

846
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to roll the dice and then I'm going

847
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Speaker 1: to get to that point and I'm going to be

848
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: told I don't know how you know, if it's that

849
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: day you learn that flight's been canceled. At that point,

850
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: do you have that same alternative or do you just

851
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: have to live with a credit at that point, No, you.

852
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 4: Do still have that you can really play it up

853
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: to you a day of hour of your originally scheduled departure,

854
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: and if that flight does ultimately get canceled or significantly delayed,

855
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 4: which the Department of Transportation defines as a delay domestically,

856
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: if three or more hours, same same rights kick, you

857
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: can cancel that.

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Speaker 2: Entire reservation for a full refund.

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Speaker 4: And one interesting element that I think speaks to the

860
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: kind of trouble that airlines are in and trying to

861
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: keep up in all of this mess, is that all

862
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: of the major airlines have come out and said, yes,

863
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 4: of course, if we cancel your flight, we'll give you

864
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: a refund, which I will note is something that they

865
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Speaker 4: have not been so forthcoming about, especially when they were

866
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Speaker 4: canceling flights by the thousands in the early days of

867
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Speaker 4: the pandemic. But they are now saying that, you know,

868
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Speaker 4: if you're scheduled to travel at least through this week,

869
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Speaker 4: even if your flight hasn't been canceled or affected by

870
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: these disruptions, explicitly, they will allow you to just call

871
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Speaker 4: in or hex in or go in and advantage your

872
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: reservation and cancel your flight for a full refund, because

873
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 4: they're just trying to get as many people out of

874
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: seats as possible so they can get away with flying

875
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 4: less than they normally want.

876
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter if when you originally booked it

877
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: it's it was called non refundable. That doesn't have any

878
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: impact given this circumstance.

879
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 4: Exactly, even a few books the cheapest basic economy flight

880
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 4: for seventy nine dollars to Pittsburgh, you can still cancel

881
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 4: for a full refund.

882
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 3: That's good to know.

883
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Six one two guy wants to know if Amtrak, depending

884
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: I guess on where you're going, might be a legitimate

885
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: alternative that that that may sound good in theory, but

886
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: that can be complicated and where you're headed and all

887
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, right right.

888
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 4: Well, and you know, I'll say, I think a lot

889
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 4: of people are acting that question. You know, we got

890
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: some data from the aviation analytics company Syrium today that

891
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 4: shows that they have soon started to see a slowdown

892
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: in how many people are booking flights for Thanksgiving a week,

893
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: which means, you know, I think a lot of people

894
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 4: are asking that question, should I take the train if

895
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: that's an option.

896
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: Should I just hop in the car.

897
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: And drive for six seven hours when I would rather

898
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 4: fly for you know, an hour and a half or less.

899
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 4: But when things are looking as uncertain as they are

900
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 4: right now, I can't blame them.

901
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: The we keep hearing that we're on the verge of

902
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: finally having a breakthrough and that the shutdown is probably

903
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: going to handle. I think nothing is certain until it

904
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: is certain, but every indication seems to be that it's

905
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: going to take a while, right that even if that

906
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: if there is a breakthrough there, it's not like then

907
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: we snap our fingers and everything is back to one

908
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: hundred percent correct exactly.

909
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: And there's a few reasons for that. One, Most importantly it's,

910
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: you know, we've we've got a now smaller air traffic

911
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 4: control workforce apparently than we had going into the shutdown,

912
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 4: and those people aren't going to those offices, those facilities

913
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: across the country that have been so hamstrung for the

914
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 4: last week and change are not going to be back

915
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: up to one hundred percent as soon as a bill

916
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: gets tigned, right, It's going to take time to get

917
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 4: those people back in those seats. Two is that you know,

918
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: the airlines are clearly struggling to keep up. That's what

919
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 4: we saw really start to spiral out of control over

920
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: the weekend is that you know, Delta, for example, on Sunday,

921
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: canceled or delayed fifty four percent of its flights nationwide

922
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 4: on Sunday. That's really bad. That is so far beyond

923
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 4: the four percent FAA mandated reductions that the federal government

924
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 4: put in place in order to try to keep planes

925
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 4: moving on time and safely across the country. And then

926
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: finally that four percent reduction that the FAA put in

927
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 4: in place starting late last week is going to start

928
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: to scale up. It goes up to six percent tomorrow,

929
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 4: and then by Friday it goes up to ten percent.

930
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: And Secretary Dusty said today that even if the shutdown ends,

931
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: that's not going to change immediately. That it's going to

932
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 4: take time for them to assess the data and say, yes, okay,

933
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: we can justify bringing you know, air air traffic back

934
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 4: up to one hundred percent. So all of these things

935
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 4: are really playing against the airlines and trying to get

936
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 4: things moving reliably, and it's going to take time for

937
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 4: them to get back there.

938
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: Well, So what accounts for the fifty stat that you gave.

939
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 4: You know, the biggest thing is and this is this

940
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: is a thing when when an airline starts to melt down,

941
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: there's it's never just one thing. So in the case

942
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 4: of Delta, there are these you know, these SAA mandated reductions,

943
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 4: which I think put every airline in the country on

944
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: its heels. You need to rework your schedules to to

945
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 4: accommodate those cuts. And you know that crew that you

946
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 4: we're banking on flying from Minneapolis to Denver so that

947
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: it could fly on where it from Denver to Seattle.

948
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: You know, if one of those legs get cut, you

949
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 4: got to rework everything on the fly, so that automatically

950
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: puts you out a disadvantage. And then over the weekend

951
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: down in Seattle, which you know, the old joke is

952
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 4: that everything for Delta moves through Atlanta. Right there was

953
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: some really bad weather and then there were five plus

954
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: hour delays getting off the ground in Atlanta, which again

955
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 4: sets your entire operation back, and so it all ends

956
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: up in this kind of ugly snowball effect where an

957
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 4: airline struggles to keep things moving, they start running out

958
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 4: of crew trying to keep the airline running on time

959
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: to rescue flights that otherwise might be stuck or stranded

960
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 4: or delayed, and it all leads to, you know, a

961
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 4: pretty pretty nasty day. And again today is for Delta

962
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,959
Speaker 4: looking a little bit better, but it's still pretty bad.

963
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Potter is the editor of Thrifty Traveler and joins

964
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: us pretty much every time we get into these sorts

965
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: of crises, which unfortunately seem not been that often lately,

966
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: but this is obviously a big one. A couple texts

967
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: I want to get your reaction to this is from

968
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: looks like seven two guy seven oh two. As a

969
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: former air traffic controller, I can tell you that the

970
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: United States is the only West, the only one of

971
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: the next the western nations where the government runs air

972
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: traffic control. Every other nation is privatized. I think we've

973
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: talked about this before. Where are we on that whole process?

974
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: Are we any closer to that taking place? Would that

975
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: be the best solution moving forward? Or is it more

976
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: complicated than that in your mind?

977
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know. I know I'm not smart

978
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 4: enough to answer that question intelligently. I do think this

979
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: will probably result in having more of those conversations at

980
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 4: the federal level, right but also you do I think

981
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: there is an element of the devil, you know that

982
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 4: replacing the entire system by which you know, you run

983
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 4: air traffic control and run our nation's airspace is a

984
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 4: really tough sell when there are a lot of other

985
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: problems to solve. So I don't know. I know, President

986
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 4: Trump talked about today again for the latest time, more

987
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 4: ways to modernize air traffic control technology. That is obviously

988
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: those conversations are obviously going to continue. But in terms of,

989
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 4: you know, the idea of privatizing air traffic control, I mean,

990
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: I feel like we talk about that once once a year,

991
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: once every two years, and then these stories disappear from

992
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 4: the headlines and everybody moves on. So I don't know

993
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: whether that's any more likely, truly likely, than it was.

994
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: You know, just a couple of.

995
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: Weeks ago, guy asked in a good uh, I think

996
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: follow up question. He's mentioning he's got a trip to

997
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: DC plan this weekend, including flight and hotel. If his

998
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: flight is canceled, does he have any recourse with hotel

999
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: reservations because I think some hotels demand a certain amount

1000
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: of money ahead of time, and maybe there's some stuff

1001
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: that's non refundable. How does that work or how would

1002
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: that work in that sort of scenario.

1003
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 4: You know, you're really going to have to handle these

1004
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 4: things on a case by case basis. We have seen

1005
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: some of the major hotel chains come out and say,

1006
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 4: if you will, if your travels are affected by these disruptions,

1007
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 4: we will refund your reservation. So that's a possibility, you know,

1008
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: to either look into it with the hotel chain or

1009
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: at the property itself. You know. The other possible recourse

1010
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: here is travel insurance, whether it's something you buy it separately,

1011
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 4: whether you add it on to your your flight reservation,

1012
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 4: whether you booked on a on a good travel credit

1013
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: card that has these things built in. But we're very

1014
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: clearly learning we went last week that a lot of

1015
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 4: these policies either have terms written into the fine print

1016
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 4: or the fine print is so vague that there's a

1017
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: lot of wiggle room for the insurers to actually deny

1018
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 4: claims that are a result of disruption stemming from ro workforce,

1019
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 4: air traffic control, and any umbrella term that you can

1020
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 4: come up with. So I don't want to discourage anyone

1021
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 4: from fighting for reimbursement because they absolutely should, regardless of

1022
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: what the policy says, but I think everybody who is

1023
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 4: in that situation of they get stuck somewhere overnight and

1024
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 4: they need to pay for a hotel or they aren't

1025
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 4: able to make the trip, and they're trying to recoup

1026
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 4: some of those costs, I think everybody is probably going

1027
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 4: to need to prepare for a fight in order to

1028
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 4: try to get some of that money.

1029
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: Last question from the audience. This is I think a

1030
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: call or a text out of Randy. In fact in

1031
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: Duluth he says that he and his wife are flying

1032
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: are flying from Minneapolis Saint Paul the JFK to Athens,

1033
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: Greece on the fourteenth of this month. What should be

1034
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: our biggest concern security lines, air traffic control, et cetera.

1035
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: We have not talked much about that.

1036
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: Are security lines out of control through this period or

1037
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: what does what would someone in Randy's position have to

1038
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: be most concerned with.

1039
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 4: You know, the security lines has been I will say,

1040
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: a surprise and that it hasn't been worse, And maybe

1041
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 4: that's just a reflection of the fact that air traffic

1042
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 4: control and flight disruptions have been so bad that it's

1043
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 4: overshadowed issues at TSA checkpoints. I mean, I think for Randy,

1044
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 4: the biggest thing is just making sure that you get

1045
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 4: to JFK. You know, fortunately the long haul international operations

1046
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 4: has been pretty much spared by these reductions and disruptions

1047
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: as airlines have struggled to keep things moving. You know,

1048
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 4: the same isn't true for a flight from JFK to

1049
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 4: to London or Appens. But you got to get to

1050
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: JFK first, and so you know, I would say if

1051
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 4: if you if you are booked on the same ticket,

1052
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 4: meaning you know you're flying from Minneapolis to JFK and

1053
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 4: JFK to Appens. Fortunately, Delta or whichever airline you're flying with,

1054
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 4: is responsible for getting you all the way to Appen.

1055
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 4: Even if you know your your first flight to New

1056
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 4: York City gets canceled or delayed, they'll put you on

1057
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: the next available one. But I would say, you know,

1058
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: the best thing anybody can do right now, especially if

1059
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 4: they're trying to make a connection, is to take the

1060
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 4: first flight of the day, so you know, even if

1061
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 4: it's going to be a brutal wake up time getting

1062
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: to the Loot Airport down to Minneapolis and onward to

1063
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 4: Athens or onward.

1064
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 3: To New York.

1065
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 4: You know that that's six or seven am departure, getting

1066
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 4: on that flight, Changing your flight if you can't is

1067
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 4: going to be one of the best things that you

1068
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 4: can do just for peace of mind.

1069
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: Thank you for the intel as always, we appreciate it.

1070
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: And and why don't you give folks an opportunity to

1071
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: maybe learn a little bit more about Thrifty Traveler.

1072
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, right now, our whole team is really just

1073
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 4: later focused on helping people out here, whether it's you know,

1074
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: figuring out what they can do if they're flying in

1075
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: the days to come, or or asking the questions of

1076
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 4: you know, is this going to extend into Thanksgiving? So

1077
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: thrifty Traveler dot com we're writing about these things every

1078
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: single day, writing about travel insurance policies, all the ins

1079
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: and outs of what you need to know to try

1080
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Speaker 4: to get where you need to go on time. And

1081
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Speaker 4: then beyond that, you know, we send our paying members

1082
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Speaker 4: who sign up for our premium service some really great

1083
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 4: cheap fare alerts from their home airports, including here in Minneapolis,

1084
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Speaker 4: but two hundred plus across the country and in the

1085
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Speaker 4: United States, both you know, cheap domestic and international airfare

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Speaker 4: alerts as well as us to use those credit card

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Speaker 4: points and a fair.

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Speaker 1: Line mile invaluable stuff. Thanks my friend. It's always good

1089
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Speaker 1: to chat with you, Kyle.

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Speaker 4: One of these times we'll get to talk about something fun.

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Speaker 3: Today is definitely not that day. Thanks again. Have a

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00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: good week. Yeah you too. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Potter, Editor, thrifty traveler with a lot I think

1094
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Speaker 1: of really helpful info and intel as well. Vikings lost yesterday.

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00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of how many of you

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Speaker 1: know that. Maybe you weren't paying attention. Maybe I should

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00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: have offered up a spoiler alert because you were going

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00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: to tape, you had taped the game you're going to

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Speaker 1: watch tonight. Well, cat's out of the bag. I got

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Speaker 1: another at least one more Vikings talking point. As we

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Speaker 1: get back to a very disappointing afternoon at the People

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Speaker 1: Stadium in downtown Minneapolis yesterday, Stay tuned.

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Speaker 5: No famous moments. Kid gas offense thirteen Ravens. I think

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Speaker 5: that's number six.

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Speaker 8: You've got to be kidding me with this fall start

1106
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 8: offense number seventy five.

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Speaker 3: It's a five year penalty. It's court down.

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Speaker 8: Join us again for another famous moment.

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Speaker 3: A good gas offense.

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00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: By Barbara from us from just pounding away at a

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00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: disappointing twenty seven to nineteen loss. There were a couple

1112
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: of nice things that happened in the at the People

1113
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: Stadium yesterday. It sure started out awfully encouraging, didn't it.

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00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 5: McCarthy empty backfield, he's out of the shop. Done. Three

1115
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 5: receivers right, two to the left, Hawkinson and Jones to

1116
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 5: the left. The Ravens showed blitz from the left of McCarthy.

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00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 5: Then they pack off. Actually it's a three man rush

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00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 5: and McCarthy fires right, caught Jefferson Appen twenty two runs

1119
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 5: out of bounds up in twenty three. HiT's a ten

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Speaker 5: yard hit and a first down for the Vikings Pete.

1121
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 5: They only rushed three guys. One got through and hit JJ.

1122
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 5: That's Kyle, Kyle Hamilton just doing it. It's a three

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Speaker 5: man stunt, just trying to get everyone to pass that

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Speaker 5: thing off. But great job by JJ McCarthy recognizing the

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Speaker 5: coverage and putting that football out there. Before JJ was

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 5: even in his break, that football was on its way,

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00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 5: So that was great anticipation by McCarthy. McCarthy wearing the

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00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 5: nine facing a four man rush. He's gonna fade left

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00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 5: to Dalen Naylor cot at.

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00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 3: The forty, then a Raven blue and tackle step up by.

1131
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 6: Nailor at the thirty, falls to the twenty, wins to

1132
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 6: the ten down at the five hey sixty two yard

1133
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 6: catching run by the speedy Jaalen Naylor.

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00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 7: What a huge play for JJ McCarthy, Paul, he lines

1135
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 7: up in empty sees man across the board, no one,

1136
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 7: he's gonna get pressure.

1137
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 3: Up the middle.

1138
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 7: Of course, he knows he's gonna get Jalen Naylor without

1139
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 7: any help from the free safety, and delivered a beautiful

1140
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 7: fade down the sideline. And you know it's a great

1141
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 7: fade when Naylor, after catching it, has the ability to

1142
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 7: make a move and make a couple of people miss.

1143
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 7: So just an explosive play. And for McCarthy it's important

1144
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 7: because when defenses want to roll up and they want

1145
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 7: to blitz you, you gotta make them pay, You gotta

1146
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 7: burn them. The Ravens are gonna think twice about blitzing

1147
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 7: JJ McCarthy.

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00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 3: After that one.

1149
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: So promising, but as we've learned, how many times you

1150
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: can't go Harvey kit Tell on the bit too soon.

1151
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: You have to let a game play out. That's what

1152
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: the best teams do. That's why the best teams don't

1153
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: panic early. Ravens have been through their head coach Harbaugh

1154
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: has been through this a million times.

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Speaker 3: Like eighteen years exactly.

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00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 9: He's like fifty and twenty against like rookie quarterbacks at

1157
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 9: the number quarterbacks, some crazy number.

1158
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: And I think now the.

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Speaker 1: Number for Jackson for Lamar against NFC teams is twenty

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01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 1: five and three, counting yesterday's game, twenty five and three.

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01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good mark. But it did start well,

1162
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: and I liked what the Vikings did early. Defensively, I

1163
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: didn't think the Ravens looked all that motivated. They didn't

1164
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: look that It just it just didn't feel like they

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01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: were ready to start the game. And it looked like

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01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: the Vikings were ready to start the game. But you

1167
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: got to be able to start the game, and you

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01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: have to be able to finish the ball game as well.

1169
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: Interesting question offered by a six point two guy. Back

1170
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: in the days of the famous bumper and bumper pole questions,

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01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: This might have been one, Oh yeah, those are days.

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01:00:54,240 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: What has a better chance of happening the Twins sing

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01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: payroll or koc running the ball? On third and one.

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Speaker 1: We know it's not good baseball. I think it might

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01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: be the Twins increasing payroll. Wow, that's you think that's

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Speaker 1: a good.

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Speaker 9: So we've got sty years of Kaos's only in year four.

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Speaker 1: But I understand the center doesn't like running it. I

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01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: don't understand why. Well, I do understand why. I think

1180
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: we've got him pegned in this regard. He sees one

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Speaker 1: of those aesthetic guys.

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01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 9: But but that's what's so maddening about it.

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01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 3: The run is esthetically pleasing the way that they do it.

1184
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: It should be. They've had, they have some beautiful runs.

1185
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Speaker 3: Should be.

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Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'm Toro throwback because I I love

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Speaker 1: a good run.

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Speaker 3: I do I and I like, like I.

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Speaker 1: Said, we all live in this world now where second

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Speaker 1: and ten is supposed to be has to be a run.

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01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: And again, depending on the team.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers don't feel like they have to run

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Speaker 1: on second and ten, do they? The Ravens don't feel

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Speaker 1: like they have toss. I should say, pass on second ten.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the Ravens feel like they have

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Speaker 1: to pass on the second ten. Eagles don't feel like

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Speaker 1: they have to pass on second intent. The Bears with

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Speaker 1: it with Ben Johnson. He proved it with the Lions

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Speaker 1: last year, saying this year in Chicago, he might view

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Speaker 1: second and ten as a running down if you have

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Speaker 1: enough faith in your running game and you don't lose

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Speaker 1: your mind if you don't get it.

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01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 3: But when we're throwing the number.

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Speaker 1: Of incompletions, and again, be careful mac bobos. I'm not

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01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: saying that means I'm giving up on JJ McCarthy. It's

1206
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: just a fact that right now he's throwing a lot

1207
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: of incompletions. He made the argument that a run is

1208
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: actually makes more sense because if you pass on second

1209
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: and ten, it's an incomplete pass.

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Speaker 3: What's that third and ten, third and long and third

1211
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Speaker 3: and long?

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Speaker 1: And if you run, maybe it's gonna be second and

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Speaker 1: six or third and six. I should say, maybe it's

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01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: gonna be third and two. If you break one, parish

1215
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: the thought maybe it'll be a first down. So I

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01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: don't know, Well, might as well get to one more.

1217
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: This one is named lovingly for Mike Tice. We call

1218
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: it Live by the Dog, Die by the Dog. We'll

1219
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: explain after Jackson.

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01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 5: Now in the shotgun is sound man. They're gonna flank

1221
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 5: came in late Dallas Turner with the sack and he

1222
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 5: smashed Lamar Jackson back at the thirty six.

1223
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 7: But they're gonna get They're gonna get Dallas.

1224
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: Turner for roughing the passer, roughing the palace center runs

1225
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: in the first under fifteen.

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01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 3: Body, wait, it's a fifteen money when they not a

1227
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 3: first down?

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01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 7: Well that's yeah, I mean that's what they're gonna call that.

1229
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 7: I mean, they're gonna they're gonna protect the quarterback.

1230
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Speaker 5: I've seen Dallas Turner in no way thrust to push

1231
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 5: or tried to harm that young man.

1232
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 7: No, no, not at all, not at all. I mean,

1233
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,479
Speaker 7: it's just the way, it's just the way the league

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01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 7: is now. I mean, they're they they're going to protect

1235
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Speaker 7: the quarterbacks. We had one called last week on JJ

1236
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 7: McCarthy that was probably yeah, I'm somewhere in that ballpark.

1237
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 7: So it's just a it's kind of a shame in

1238
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 7: that regard that, uh that that was a great play

1239
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 7: by Dallas Turner. He was the penetrator on a looping

1240
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 7: stunt and came free and the acceleration of the quarterback.

1241
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's just too bad that they got

1242
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 7: to tack that on. I mean, because that was a

1243
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 7: huge play. You and Ben played linebacker for many years

1244
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 7: in the NFL.

1245
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 5: If you were teaching a front side form tackle, tell

1246
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 5: me you wouldn't teach what you just saw.

1247
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 7: I don't know what. I wouldn't know what to tell him, honestly.

1248
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 7: Got it's like you're you're unblocked, you got a running start.

1249
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 7: I mean, what else can you do?

1250
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: Versuch is right. Versuch called it that I hate the call.

1251
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: I hated it when it was that when we got

1252
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: the fifteen yards a week ago.

1253
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 3: Last week, Yeah, hates it, Yes, I hate it. We

1254
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 3: hate it. Burkhart was bitter, Brady was bitter. But that's

1255
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 3: the rule. It is a bad rule.

1256
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: It's it's the reality is that all you really have

1257
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: to do, I think is half fake going to the

1258
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: side a little bit, and they're probably not going to

1259
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: make that call. And again, we can't get high and

1260
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: mighty about going against us this week when we received

1261
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: the very same call I think a key situation the

1262
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: week before. It's just and it was the exact same

1263
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: deal where there was no it wasn't like the player

1264
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: the quarterback was ground into the ground. But if you

1265
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: land fully and you don't find some way, even though

1266
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: I think it's unfair to expect it of a defensive

1267
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: player and unnatural to expect of a defensive player to

1268
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: sort of roll to the side a little bit, they're

1269
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: going to call it. It's just the way it works.

1270
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: By the way, I rarely see that same sort of

1271
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: sack called roughing the passer in college? Is the rule

1272
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: by letter different? I think its different? Where is it

1273
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: we just give more license to kids because they're kids.

1274
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they have the body weight rule in college. Yeah,

1275
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: grim would know if he's listening to he knows every rule.

1276
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 3: Maybe if we got to.

1277
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: Protect pro investments, you know, that's that's probably a lot

1278
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: of it. And again I don't I don't think there's

1279
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: a fairness to it because, like I said, how do you?

1280
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 5: It was a hard how do you?

1281
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: It's the way I want to do it. I'm worried

1282
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: that if I turn too soon, what if he gets away?

1283
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 4: Right?

1284
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: And that's why to me, I don't know what the

1285
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: answer is, uh, but I think it's it's one hundred

1286
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: percent unfair to the defender. But it was that's the

1287
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: way now it's it tends to be called and it

1288
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: was called to our favor the very same call.

1289
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 3: The week before. Can't hit him.

1290
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 9: I can't hit him low and can't hit him perfectly

1291
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 9: in the mid section and have your weight on top

1292
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 9: of his weight. That's the tough part about being a

1293
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 9: defensive play. That's why at the end versus show, I

1294
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 9: don't know what you tell him. What people also forget

1295
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 9: is how fast this thing is moving. Yeah, oh yeah,

1296
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 9: no question. Dallas Turner comes free. He's got a free

1297
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 9: shot at Lamar Jackson. He's got he's got a fire

1298
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 9: on it. He's got to go and in the in

1299
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Speaker 9: that tenth of a second you're asking him to Then also,

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Speaker 9: by the way, can you turn a little bit so

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Speaker 9: all your way doesn't go on? It is exactly None

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Speaker 9: of it makes any sense, no, none of it. It

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Speaker 9: sounds good on slow motion. Yeah, you can turn a

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Speaker 9: little bit. It's just it's not a good rule. I

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Speaker 9: think they I almost think they have to get rid

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Speaker 9: of it. Well they might, I don't know if there's

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Speaker 9: any movement for that.

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Speaker 1: That's a subject we can explore with the officiating guy,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Siefers. He's had to cover that part of the

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Speaker 1: National Football League for many, many years. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: wrap up. The program will remind you of well kind

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Speaker 1: of try to summarize what we think we learned today

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Speaker 1: and prepare you for tomorrow's program as well.

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Speaker 3: That's next year. In the fan.

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Speaker 5: Nomus moments, guess justin Jefferson slot left, TJ. Hawkinson inside

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Speaker 5: slot left.

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Speaker 3: Oh, here we go.

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Speaker 5: This is our seventh Paul start in one game fall

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Speaker 5: start offense.

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Speaker 3: Number seventy five in one five penalty. It's their down.

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Speaker 8: Join us again for another famous moment in up Gas Offense.

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Speaker 9: Show rep presented by American Pressure Commercial grade pressure Washers

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Speaker 9: since nineteen seventy five.

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Speaker 3: It's the Bumper to Bumper show wrap.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Adam Thielen who joined at three point thirty,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Athletic at four, Ben Lieber about four fifty ish,

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Speaker 1: and a thrifty traveler guy Kyle Potter to change the subject,

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Speaker 1: albeit briefly, at about five thirty. But we do have

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who travel, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people curious about the state of the of the air

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Speaker 1: travel in the United States of America right now. And

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Speaker 1: the picture what was more bleak the picture that Kyle

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Speaker 1: Potter laid out or the current condition of your favorite

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Speaker 1: football team after losing yet again.

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Speaker 9: Man, tough call. Well, what how about this for a

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Speaker 9: toss up? Which gets better by Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 9: The Vikings are the travel situation. That's what everybody's thinking about, right,

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Speaker 9: I'd be travel Thanksgiving, traveling, people are going places. It's

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Speaker 9: two weeks off? Is it two weeks from Thursday? I'm

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Speaker 9: bad on the covers that three weeks from Thursday? What's

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Speaker 9: the day today? Yeah, it's got to be two weeks

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Speaker 9: from this Thursday. Today's the tenth, right, Thanksgiving's got to

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Speaker 9: be two weeks from this Thursday. Yes, yes, Thanksgivings the

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Speaker 9: twenty seven, so that would be two weeks from this

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Speaker 9: third around the corner.

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Speaker 3: You got a big week though. You're headed west? Right

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Speaker 3: when you are? You out Thursday and Friday? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I figured, yes, you got to prepare for the Ducks

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Speaker 1: Friday night. Well, now I can't get that on my own, like,

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Speaker 1: I got to go with the team, you know, Is

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Speaker 1: that right? Well, there's times where I go on my own, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, to not miss as much work. Have you

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Speaker 1: booked anything already?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is probably working out, Geen? Is is

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Speaker 3: is it a unique one to get to that makes sense.

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Speaker 9: And uh, heck of a barn burner between the Hawkeyes

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Speaker 9: and the Ducks in duck weather basically right, a lot

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Speaker 9: of rain. The back to back your club, Yeah, that

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Speaker 9: was in Penn State into Iowa and Oregon.

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Speaker 3: Was a nice ball games. That's what Kevin Warren dreamed of.

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Speaker 9: What the TV windows right like Fox to CBS, really

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Speaker 9: really compelling games, great finishes, very true.

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Speaker 1: Tonight after vikings rewind here on the fan, we got

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Speaker 1: more Wolves action. We're playing Utah again, this time on

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Speaker 1: the road. I think our coverage will begin at seven

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Speaker 1: forty five tonight right here on the Flagship and then

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Speaker 1: via the Timberwolves channel as well. We were going to

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Speaker 1: play a good team again. I want I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: we're doing better. Yeah, we're building something, but I want

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Speaker 1: to see us this king on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Really. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We'll probably have Mike Conley later this second as well.

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Speaker 1: Fatten up on the schedule. That's that's all. That's good too.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow is Kevin Seafert Day. It's also Luigi Day, and

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Speaker 1: who knows what else. Thanks for watching today, Thanks for texting,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for listening. We will talk to you tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Three