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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer, I think he's a terror victim. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say he's like those poor Israelis

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Speaker 2: in October of last year, but I think there's all

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Speaker 2: victim of terrorism. I'll explain that in a moment. When

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer's classic old bull democrat been around forever. Politically,

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Speaker 2: He's never shown any real signs of radicalism. It's just

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Speaker 2: a typical dope in New York lefty, and he's knowing

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Speaker 2: to work the process forever and ever and ever. But

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, here's Chuck Schumer doing something that

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Speaker 2: politically is stupid. Governmentally is stupid, shutting down the government

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Speaker 2: by putting out demands that he knows President Trump is

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Speaker 2: never going to cave to. There's no way that Trump

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Speaker 2: is going to sign legislation the guarantees free health care

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Speaker 2: to ill legal aliens. When you make a guarantee that

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Speaker 2: you know, rather a demand that you know the other

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Speaker 2: side can't accede to, that means you don't want them

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Speaker 2: to reach a deal. Yet it's clearly not in the

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Speaker 2: being I won't say blackmailed, but extorted. He is terrified

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Speaker 2: of the left wing of his party, and so is

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Speaker 2: the entire Democratic establishment. Back in March, we were at

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Speaker 2: the same point with regard to a government shutdown, and

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Speaker 2: Schumer cut a deal with Trump and the Republicans, and

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Speaker 2: we went forward and the left eviscerated him. Chuck Schumer's

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Speaker 2: in New York State. He's up for reelection next year.

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Speaker 2: There's very little chance of Republicans could beat him, but

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Speaker 2: to AOC, and AOC's making it clear, we've got to

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Speaker 2: demand all of these things, and we make no deals

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Speaker 2: with Trump. Well we don't have We can't not shut

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Speaker 2: down the government nless there's a deal. Chuck Schumer is

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Speaker 2: is terrified of their left. This is kind of a

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Speaker 2: who the mainstream Democrats are. Biden's a bad example because

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Speaker 2: we just don't know what Joe Biden would have done

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden was never sharp at the top of his game.

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Speaker 2: When you think of the old Joe Biden that was

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Speaker 2: he was a moderate to liberal Democrat. If he had

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Speaker 2: telling them, Look, Joe, all this crap that you did

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Speaker 2: with Ukraine, in which Hunter was making all this money

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Speaker 2: admits to being Marxist. That's where this party is, and

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Speaker 2: they aren't particularly interested in doing anything that's all that smart.

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Speaker 2: The way this thing plays out, Trump pulls all the cards.

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Speaker 2: Most of the agencies of the government that are shut

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Speaker 2: Some do you know you apply for Like they're talking

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Speaker 2: That's not an essential service to the government at shutdown.

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Speaker 2: But most of the things that you really really need

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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer is terrified he's going to get a primary

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Speaker 2: challenge from AOC. The reason why the American People's government

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Speaker 2: is shut down is because Chuck Schumer is listening to

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Speaker 2: left wingers. Schumer took a look and while New York

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Speaker 2: those are the same people that are going to vote

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Speaker 2: Republicans is simply smarter at dealing with this stuff generally speaking.

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Speaker 2: Yet a government shutdown, you bully around the media, is

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Speaker 2: The Democrats strategy on all of this was to make

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Speaker 2: the shutdown about health care, that we're doing this in

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Speaker 2: order to get better health care for the American people.

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Speaker 2: But Trump flipped the script. He's made it what their

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Speaker 2: their demand. Now why did the Democrats demand something so stupid? A,

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Speaker 2: Their radical base wants it, but b they didn't want

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Speaker 2: have simply said, look, there you are cutting a deal

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Speaker 2: articulating this next point. There's a report from a poster

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Speaker 2: That person reports the desiret Townsend, who's a big lobbyist

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Speaker 2: in DC. Lefty, spoke with members of Congress and according

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Speaker 2: to Townsend, and this makes sense, why are Democrats really

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Speaker 2: There is an actual reason for it beyond simply not

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Speaker 2: If the government isn't paying for that healthcare, that's a

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Speaker 2: massive blow to the healthcare industry in California, which is

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Speaker 2: by the way, entirely leftist. The illegals don't have enough

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Speaker 2: money to pay for their own health care, so if

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Speaker 2: going to get paid. And in some of these states

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Speaker 2: it's a huge segment of the overall marketplace. In the meantime,

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Speaker 2: let's get back to Rusbaud, Big story on the Wall

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Speaker 2: Street Journal. He's Trump's director of O and B. He's

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Speaker 2: been plotting this, according to the story, for years. He's

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Speaker 2: that are the same level of competence as the others

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Speaker 2: that are here in term number two. Given the fact

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Speaker 2: that the government right now does not have funding authorization,

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Speaker 2: it appears as though Trump can cancel any program that

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Speaker 2: Trump believes that even if money is appropriated, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to spend it. He believes that in appro propriation

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Speaker 2: if they appropriate, just grab around number of billion dollars

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Speaker 2: to something, you know, I don't have to spend a billion.

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Speaker 2: I can spend eight hundred billion if I want. This

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Speaker 2: is being challenged in courts, But here's something that's I

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Speaker 2: think less debatable. If there isn't an appropriation, that means

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Speaker 2: at all. He can not reduce the spending. He can

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Speaker 2: zero it out because it's not appropriated. It Right now,

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Speaker 2: the government isn't appropriated other than the so called essential

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Speaker 2: the most journal story at it very very lengthy, and

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Speaker 2: I can't read the whole thing, but it's quite interesting

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Speaker 2: that the strategy that Vout has come up with. Russell

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Speaker 2: Vaud has been planning this move for this moment for years.

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Speaker 2: President Trump's budget chief, one of the main players in

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Speaker 2: the government shutdown that has ground Washington to a halt,

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Speaker 2: affected Democratic congressional leaders from New York Senator, Senate Minority

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Speaker 2: furlough the civil rights staff responsible for conducting this review,

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Speaker 2: a shutdown. We just don't have money to pay the

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Speaker 2: DEI people. That this contract requires New York contract on

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Speaker 2: facto a leader of the Congress AOC, is also from

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Speaker 2: New York. You just can't imagine an earlier Republican administration

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Speaker 2: doing this. Continuing, Foud also posted more than eight billion

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Speaker 2: dollars in Energy Department funds for climate projects would be

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Speaker 2: canceled in more than a dozen Democratic leading states, leading states.

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Speaker 2: He didn't specify which projects would be affected. The story

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Speaker 2: with the Democrats, knowing that they're far more dependent on

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Speaker 2: all of these programs already appropriated to the Republicans, why

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Speaker 2: would they give Trump the legal ability to cancel this.

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Speaker 2: And here's the answer. I think Schumer knows that. He

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Speaker 2: Look what Trump's gonna do. But then after they didn't

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Speaker 2: shut down the government, the lefties all, what nuts, you

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Speaker 2: gotta fight Trump, You gotta fight Trump, you gotta fight Trump.

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Speaker 2: I do not believe Schumer wants to do this. He's

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Speaker 2: being terrorized by the left wing of his party. And

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Speaker 4: So my son just started luke hobrn for the first time.

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Speaker 5: My nonverbal son just spoke for the first time in

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Speaker 2: annoying about all of this is that all of my life,

427
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: the side of the political spectrum that refused to carry

428
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: water for big pharma was the left. They were the

429
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: ones that questioned and challenged everything, and now they're the

430
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 2: ones that simply doctorate air. You can't do this, you

431
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: can't do that, you can't try anything alternative. So I

432
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: have no my It may well be that this is

433
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: the lakovern for nonverbal autism is like the cancer drugs.

434
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 2: Most of these cancer drugs work for some people who

435
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: they don't work for others. It has to do with

436
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: how what helps with your own body. SAME's true with

437
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: migraine medications. Some work for some people, who do work

438
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: for others. And I don't know that la Crovn's gonna

439
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: work for every kid that's got nonverbal autism. But you've

440
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 2: got parent and this woman doing out that there's anecdote

441
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: eleven in from others that the same thing is happening,

442
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 2: and instead of the media touting and highlighting and spotlighting this,

443
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: they're doing the same thing they did with Ivermectin claiming

444
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: yet it's craphole like claiming that it's snake oil, which

445
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: is deterring some people from doing the very thing that

446
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: they ought to be doing. You're listening to the Mark

447
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 2: Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. I have

448
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: a really interesting crime story here. It's going to require

449
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: you to go back a little bit. You may, if

450
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: you're from the Milwaukee area, recall the story. It has

451
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: to do with a babysitter who killed the family dog

452
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: of the family that she was babysitting. She cut one

453
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: of the children's hair and then she killed the family dog.

454
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: She ended up pleading not guilty by insanity. She was convicted.

455
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: She served nine months in jail. It seemed like just

456
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 2: one of those odd stories of some completely screwed up

457
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: young woman that was, as I say it roughly, I

458
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: got the deeds, sir. I think it was like a

459
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: year and a half, two years ago, and her name

460
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: is Kylie Sonomon. Fast forward just several days ago, somebody

461
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: broke into a vacant house in Sussex. They must have

462
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: had some knowledge that there were guns in the house.

463
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: They broke into the house. The house was at the

464
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: time unoccupied, but not empty. There were things in it

465
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: that just weren't people living in it. They stole twelve

466
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: to fifteen firearms out of the house. Guess who the

467
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: dog killer? Kylie Sonomon and she's now twenty from Sussex,

468
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: and a co defended Samuel Striker, he's seventeen. They're charged

469
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: with breaking in and stealing a dozen or more firearms,

470
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: and they later went off to a nearby park and

471
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: fired him. It doesn't even look like they stole the

472
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: guns for the purposes of reselling them. Because you're gonna

473
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: resell them, you're gonna draw attention to yourself by going

474
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: out in a park get shooting the guns off. Now,

475
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: in this case, it doesn't seem like they gave her

476
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: a pass in Waka Shaw County for the Washington County

477
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: actually for the for the killing of the dog, she

478
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: got nine months, which for killing a dog first offense.

479
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm used to everybody getting probation. She got

480
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: nine months in jail for it and now she or

481
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: she is breaking into a house and stealing guns. There

482
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: is zero chance that if she's not given significant time now,

483
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: it's all gonna get worse. This is just a bad scene.

484
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: She had bail set in Waukashaw County. It's twenty five

485
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: hundred dollars cash. I would have any idea for family

486
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: is maybe your family just figuring we've got to wash

487
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: her hands of this thing, that if we fail her

488
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: out and so on, it's just gonna get worse. Maybe

489
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: sitting in jail will teach her a lesson. I don't

490
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: know if she's gonna stay in jail with regard to

491
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: this or not. But it's the same person. Two very

492
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: different types of crimes the same person. Another criminal story,

493
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: this one also with a very weird twist. We have

494
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: a case of a woman from Franklin that southern Milwaukee County.

495
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: She's been missing now for four years. I sometimes don't

496
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: you can't keep up with all of them. But it's

497
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: the kind of case that a lot of these true

498
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: crime podcasts and videos on YouTube would focus on. But

499
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if they have in this one seventy

500
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 2: year old woman just disappeared, Nobody found no trace of her.

501
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: She just disappeared and the case has not been solved.

502
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: Her name is Sandra Eckert. Now, if you follow anything

503
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: about these true crimes, or for that matter, follow any

504
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: type of stories whatsoever, if a seventy year old man

505
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: or woman, whatever it is, turns up missing, who's the

506
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: person that's going to be looked at the first? This

507
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: sposs Nobody however, has been charged. But she does have

508
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: a spouse. Her name. His name is Wesley Eckert. He's

509
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: in his seventies now as well. This week, Wesley Eckert

510
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: was arrested by police driving the wrong way on a

511
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: one way street in Sandra Eckert's car. Sandra Eckert's children,

512
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: and I assume that they're also the children of Wesley Eckert,

513
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: are talking to Fox six and saying that this is

514
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: just bringing back all the old memories again. It sounds

515
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: like the kids may suspect the spouse. He's not charged

516
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: with anything, but boy, oh boy, old boy, let's just again,

517
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if he did it or not. The

518
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: story indicates that he was a suspect in the case.

519
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: And again, when you don't have a body, unless there's

520
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: other evidence, Sometimes you can charge, sometimes you can't. There

521
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: is not a statute of limitations for murder, so the

522
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: authorities can't wait. Anyway, Let's imagine you did it to

523
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: Boulish for me to say, like, imagine you killed your wife, Paul,

524
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: But imagine somebody that you knew killed their killed their

525
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: wife four years ago. Wouldn't you get rid of her car?

526
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Doesn't it just seem odd that thinks do it? And

527
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: then he's driving that car? Why is he going the

528
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: wrong way down a one way street? And he's an

529
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: older guy. Maybe he's one of these guys starting to

530
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: lose it. He was not nailed for drunk driving or anything,

531
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: so far as I can tell. He did crash the

532
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: vehicle though, So that crash and his arrest on the

533
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: crash charges is putting the story back in the news

534
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: about the disappearance of Sandra. I have another crash story

535
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: for you before I do this. There's a story here

536
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: in the news. There's nothing particularly significant about it other

537
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: than it amuses me. And it's not even the kind

538
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: of story that should amuse me, but it does amuse me.

539
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: They're just certain things and certain people that amuse me.

540
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: Remember when Jay Cutler got his DUI didn't that amuse you?

541
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: That Jay Cutler got in drunk driving? It is funny.

542
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: I just it just seems to me that he was

543
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: intoxicated when he was playing. First of all, Jay Cutler's

544
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: one of those guys, not many of them. He looks

545
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: drunk all the time, even when he's sober. He just

546
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: has that drunk look to him. It's because it's droopy

547
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: eyes or something. He looks drunk. Well, so here're the

548
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: guy that always looks you gotta so. Right now, Jay

549
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: Cutler is serving he got it's Colorado four year no

550
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 2: at Tennessee four your four day jail term. He's in

551
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: jail now. He's in the middle of his four days

552
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: in jail for drunk driving. Again, there's nothing significant about

553
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: the story at all. It just amuses me. It probably shouldn't,

554
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: Does it interfuse you? Jay Cutler's in jail for drunk

555
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: driving right now? Another collision story, Two Delta commuter jets

556
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: collided on the ground at LaGuardia Airport in New York.

557
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: The commuter jets what the commuter jets are usually not

558
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: operated by the main airline, and this one is not.

559
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: They're operated by Endeavor air but they are part of

560
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: the Delta network and it says Delta on the side

561
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: of the plane. In some cases, the main airline owns

562
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: the commuter line as well, and I don't know who

563
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: owns Endeavor, but they're Endeavor air Airlines, but they've got

564
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: Delta on the side. They use the Delta gates, the

565
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: Delta terminals, et cetera. A flight attendant was banged up

566
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: a little, but nobody was seriously injured. I am amazed

567
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 2: that this does not happen more often. First of all,

568
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: if you've ever traveled at any of the busy airports,

569
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: most of them, most of the major airlines, have their

570
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: flights all go out around the same time. I can

571
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: tell you, for example, sighting this airport, LaGuardia, New York

572
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: late afternoon to early evening. Every airline's got flights is

573
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: flying at that point in time, and LaGuardia is just

574
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: a weird airport. I've flown out of LaGuardia forever, way

575
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: back in the days in which I guess hosted for

576
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: Rush and I fly back to Milwaukee. It was always

577
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: La Guardia, never JFK, which just that was the airport

578
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: go bag back to Midwest Express, and there was air Train,

579
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: and then they all used LaGuardia. LaGuardia is this airport

580
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 2: and it's just stuck at a piece of property that's

581
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: too small for an airport. LaGuardia is near where the

582
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: Mets play City Field. It's also that's also near where

583
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: the tennis tournament, where the US Open is held. It's

584
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: on the northern portion of Queens. It's right up against

585
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: the water, on the northern portion of I mean, it's

586
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: kind of long. Long Island is the Long Island, but

587
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: it's still in the city of New York. So one

588
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: of the runways when you come in, and anybody who've

589
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: ever flown to Lguardia's experiences you're flying in right over

590
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: the water and the edge of the runway is at

591
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: the water's edge. In fact, the runways are so short

592
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: that I don't think LaGuardia can be used for international travel.

593
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: I don't think they can handle seven forty sevens. I

594
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: don't know that, but I think I'm right about that.

595
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: It's also and it's a busy there's two airports in

596
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: New York. There's laguardieran JFK New York. It's a huge seti,

597
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of flights are about the air

598
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: it's just small. The airport building is small. They did

599
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: a renovation of LaGuardia Airport a few years ago, and

600
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: there were taxi driver saying, this is a miracle. It

601
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: is a miracle that they renovated everything, the parking lot

602
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 2: and everything. They managed to keep the airport open during

603
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: the entire edit. It was miraculous. I don't even know

604
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: how they did it because it's just too small to

605
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: begin with. Imagine now construction all over the place and

606
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: stuff out of commission. And so by the way, the

607
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: terminal LaGuardia used to be the worst in the world

608
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: that it's been really nice ever since they read it. Anyway,

609
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: the same is true in the area where your taxi

610
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: the gates the terminal building is very very close to

611
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: the couple of runways that they have there. It's not

612
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: one of these places like Atlanta where you're taxi for

613
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes. In fact, it's so cockam amy that

614
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: when you're at the end of the terminals, the pilots

615
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: can't drive in. They have to be tugged in because

616
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 2: you come in at a goofy angle. Because they're using

617
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: every last piece of space at the other thing, you know, Laguardi,

618
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: it was just notorious that if you weren't first in

619
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: line for takeoff, you could be sitting on the ground

620
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: longer than your flight was in there. We're number fifty

621
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: nine for takeoff, and there's only the one or two

622
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: uh what is it they called jetways that take you

623
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: over toward the runway, and you could be backed up

624
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: forever and you got planes incoming out, and it's just

625
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 2: it's all packed in. So two of these commuter jets

626
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: banged into one another. I think it is a credit

627
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: to all of the I don't know if air traffic

628
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: control controls you once, say, at the ground or not.

629
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: There's all those guys with those orange signals that are

630
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 2: waving your round all over the place, but they only

631
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: approach you when you're right by the terminal itself, when

632
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: you're on the jetways and everything's zigzagging all over the place.

633
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm just surprised that doesn't happen more often. There's the

634
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: same airport that the you know, the miracle on the Hudson.

635
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: They took off over the water and hit the birds

636
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: and they landed in the U in the other river,

637
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: the East River, which is one of the rivers that

638
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: you know straddles straddles New York. It was no, it

639
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: was the Hudson. It was it was it was the Hudson.

640
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: It was the Hudset. It was called Miracle on the Hudson.

641
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: It was the Hudson. The Hudson is let's see, east

642
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: of Manhattan and west. I don't remember, yeah, I just

643
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: so that was that was that airport. And now this

644
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 2: some of you may not know what's been going on

645
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: with gold. Do you know what's been going on with gold?

646
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: You don't know anything about this. You don't just keep

647
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: it on on your foot. So you're one of these

648
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: iff It doesn't affect me. I have no level of interest.

649
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: Gold has been doing nothing but going up for the

650
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: last two to three years. This year, silver is going

651
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: up at a higher percentage. Usually silver is like one

652
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: percent of a gold is and silver's trackedep But gold

653
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: has been soaring. It's at an all time high. And

654
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: the thing that's been curious about that is usually gold

655
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: goes up when stocks go down. Gold is considered a hedge.

656
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: When things are bad, that's when people buy gold. Also,

657
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: gold has traditionally been an inflation hedge, because you know

658
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 2: gold things in flake. Gold inflates. The thing that's been

659
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: odd is gold has really taken off ever since inflation

660
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: started to get under control. There's a disconnect between inflation

661
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: and gold. Why is gold? Why is silver? Why are

662
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: they going up? There's a million theories. Some of them

663
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: the real inflation hedge became bitcoin and gold was left

664
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: in the wayside, and when bitcoin slowed down, everybody got

665
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 2: into gold and silver. I've heard that. The other theory

666
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: is you need metals, including precious metals, for AI, and

667
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: there's now uses beyond investment and jewelry purposes for gold,

668
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 2: and that would be the AI purpose. I've heard all

669
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: of those things, but I've got some numbers for you.

670
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: This is interesting stuff. Between seventeen ninety three and eighteen

671
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 2: thirty three, gold was at the same price nineteen dollars

672
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: and thirty nine cents. It then made a big move

673
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: in the mid eighteen hundreds. It hit forty seven h

674
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: three and forty seven dollars and three cents in the

675
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 2: middle of the Civil War, and then pulled back to

676
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: twenty dollars to twenty dollars by eighteen seventy eight. In

677
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: eighteen seventy nine, gold was back down to twenty dollars

678
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: and sixty seven cents, In other words, only a buck

679
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: higher in eighty years. That's a dead investment. Part of

680
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 2: this has to do with America being on the gold standard.

681
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: When America was on the gold standard, gold basically didn't

682
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: move because the American dollar was tied to gold anyway. Then,

683
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: from eighteen seventy nine through nineteen thirty two, gold stayed

684
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: at that range of twenty dollars and sixty seven cents.

685
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: In the mid nineteen thirties, what happened in the nineteen

686
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: thirties even you know this, they're great depression, but generally

687
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: had gold does well when everything else has gone to crap.

688
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: In the mid nineteen thirties, gold got up to thirty

689
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: five dollars, where it stayed for the next thirty years.

690
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: Because of the gold standard being created, gold didn't move

691
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: an inch from thirty five to sixty five, still thirty bucks. Then,

692
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: in August of nineteen seventy one, Nixon took the dollar

693
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: off of gold, end of the gold standard. I wasn't

694
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: around with any kind of money that I wonder if

695
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: I would have had the brains to realize by gold

696
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: when Nixon did that, because gold started to explode in

697
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one, and between nineteen seventy one and nineteen

698
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: eighty gold went on one of the greatest bull markets of

699
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: all time. I do remember in that era, this is

700
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: when the gold bugs came out and they were on

701
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: the radio all over the place. By gold, by gold,

702
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: by gold, the world's coming to an end, by gold,

703
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: by gold, by gold, by gold. Gold went in four

704
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: years from nineteen seventy one to seventy five, from thirty

705
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: six dollars to one hundred and eighty four. Pretty good move.

706
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: It fell to ninety nine dollars in nineteen seventy six.

707
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: And then this is when the fireworks that happened between

708
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six and January of nineteen eighty. Now, what

709
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: happened between seventy six and eighty Carter, for those of

710
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: you route it out at the time. Carter was there's

711
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: never been a worse economy in America other than the

712
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: Depression than Carter. Screwed everything up. And again, when does

713
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: gold go up when everything else is bad? Gold went

714
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: during the Carter years between nineteen seventy six and nineteen eighty.

715
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: It went from ninety nine dollars to eight hundred and

716
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: fifty by January of nineteen eighty. That's what I read.

717
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: It made that incredible run, and that's what all the

718
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: ads were on to buy gold. If I've learned anything

719
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 2: about this is when everybody's telling you to buy gold,

720
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: then it's too late. So it made that incredible run,

721
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: running from about one hundred bucks to eight hundred bucks

722
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: in the five years up to nineteen eighty. Gold managed

723
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: to pull all the way back from eight fifty in

724
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty and was essentially dead money for decades. By

725
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine, gold was down to two hundred and

726
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: fifty bucks. So gold went from eight hundred to two

727
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: fifty in the eighties and the nineties. What has going

728
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 2: on In the eighties and nineties, the economy was great.

729
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: Reagan turned the economy around, and it remained strong under Clinton.

730
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: So in the eighties of the nineties, gold lost pretty

731
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: much all its value, went from eight hundred back to

732
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: two fifty in nineteen ninety nine. From that point forward

733
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: until the day before nine to eleven, excuse me, five

734
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: days before nine to eleven nine to six. I take

735
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: that back, I've got the wrong reference point. Between nineteen

736
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: ninety nine and two thousand eleven, gold moved back up

737
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: to nineteen hundred and twenty one dollars, So that was

738
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: the next big move that occurred in the market. You

739
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: then had a bear market in which gold from eleven

740
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: to fifteen went from nineteen hundred to ten forty six. Again,

741
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: this was during a period of time in which the

742
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: economy was mostly moving forward. This is the tail end

743
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: of Obama ten forty six, so that last reference point

744
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 2: almost exactly ten years ago. Gold was ten forty six

745
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: on December third of fifteen. As of two days ago,

746
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. Yesterday gold was up

747
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: to thirty eight twenty four and continuing to rise. I

748
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: have no idea what any of that means. I can, however,

749
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: tell you that the history of gold is to be

750
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: one of the most volatile things imaginable. After these massive runs,

751
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: it tends to pull way way way way way back

752
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: and could be dead for fifteen to twenty years. There's

753
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: just no way of knowing if we're at thirty eight

754
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 2: hundre right now at the peak, or if this run

755
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: is going to go to nine or ten thousand. I

756
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: don't know. I own a lot of gold. I haven't

757
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 2: sold that aid, but you certainly have to think about it, because,

758
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 2: as I say, gold does have a tendency to pull

759
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: way back. The thing that is a wildcard for me

760
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: and trying to assess this and the same thing as

761
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: silver silver's really gone up, is whether or not this

762
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: is fundamentally driven that you simply need so much gold

763
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: and silver for AI where you need rare earth metals

764
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: and precious metals that you now have. Silver's always had

765
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: a use beyond gold. You know, it's used in an

766
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: industry and a lot of things. It's not just a hedge.

767
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 2: It's also used in manufacturing and a lot of things.

768
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: Gold basically is just an investment and used in jewelry

769
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: and used for almost nothing else. I mean, I don't

770
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: even know if they use it for tooth fillings anymore.

771
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: So it's just been that. But if there is now

772
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: an actual industrial use for the both of them, given

773
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: what AI is doing and so on, there may be long,

774
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: long long ways for these to run or its implube

775
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: speculative and now would be the time to get out

776
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 2: of it. But anybody who's got a lot of gold.

777
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: It's just I am not somebody who likes to sell things,

778
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: but it seems like they're too high. I always want

779
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: to wait for it. I'm willing to let it go

780
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: back twenty five percent and say, okay, this is the

781
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: downturn rather than you know, I learned that from some

782
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: of these tech stocks. Well, gee, it seems like Amazon's overvalued.

783
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: You know, in nineteen ninety eight, a lot of those

784
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: tex stocks went boom, went went bust. And then there's

785
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: the NVIDIAs and the Amazons and the Microsoft saying all

786
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: the others of the world. We come back after the

787
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: break football preview and some football picks, as we normally

788
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: do on the end of the week podcast. All right,

789
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 2: it's time for our weekly football preview and pointspread bricks,

790
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: as we are everywhek. We're joined by Mike Burletta of

791
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: American Sports Analysts and uson. Mike is threatening to resign

792
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: from the program if he doesn't get one of these

793
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 2: points spread picks picks correct. I'm assuming that your service

794
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: is doing a little bit better than some of your

795
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: scoring picks here here on our podcast. Anything special going

796
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: on this week out at ASA?

797
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're having a decent year. Last week we lost

798
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: had a poor college day, which aligned with what I had,

799
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 3: and we had a decent NFL weekend. So just again,

800
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: we lost our first college top game of the season

801
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: last year, but I think we'll bounce. I think we've

802
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: got a really good spot this year. So check it

803
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: on Friday at ASA wins dot com. We'll have something

804
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: up for a big plan on Saturday.

805
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: I could not find a single college football game that

806
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: I liked all last weekend. I think you kind of

807
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: have to have something going on, but last week it

808
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: is a very very difficult week Anyway, the way we

809
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: normally do this is we talk about college football first

810
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: and then the NFL, because other than the Thursday night game,

811
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: college football games are played first. I was looking through

812
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: the schedule and there really isn't a huge matchup this weekend.

813
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: But I think the most interesting one is it's a

814
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: conference game and it's an interstate game. Miami is playing

815
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 2: Florida State. Now, Miami was very heavily hyped going into

816
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: the season, and I just had some thoughts that they

817
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 2: were too overhyped. They have a lot of transfers and

818
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: their Coachmurrio Christobal every single year manages to lose a

819
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: game by doing something stupid during the game, But so

820
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: far they've looked very good. Florida State is what a

821
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: weird program. Two years ago, they were one of the

822
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: best teams in the country almost won the national championship.

823
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: Last year they were one of the worst teams of

824
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: the ACC. I don't know that I've ever seen a

825
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: team drop as much as they've dropped, and they've bounced

826
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: right back this year. They're coming off a loss, but

827
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: they're a much better team that this year. And this

828
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 2: is I guess what's going to happen in the transfer

829
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: portal where teams can remake themselves and single year. In

830
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: any event, it's actually a conference game. They're both in

831
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: the ACC and they might be the two best teams

832
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: in the ACC. Your thoughts on Miami and Florida State.

833
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 3: Bike, Yeah, Miami's favored at Florida State by four and

834
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: a half. We'll learn more about Miami even though they

835
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: have two good wins against Notre Dame and Florida is

836
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: still a good win. Even though Florida hasn't been very

837
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: good this year.

838
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: Florida has a tremendous defense and a pathetic offense, So

839
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: they are I think the Cleveland Browns of college football.

840
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: Florida they are. They're really you hit it right on

841
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: the head. Their quarterback is supposed to be really good,

842
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: and he's not playing very good. But this is Miami's

843
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 3: first road game of the year. They played every game

844
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: at home so far. You get Florida State a little

845
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 3: angry coming off a loss. Florida State is the number

846
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 3: one offense in the entire country. They averaged six hundred

847
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: yards a game, their number one rush offense in the

848
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: country three hundred and thirty six yards per game, and

849
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: they average fifty three points a game. So it'll be

850
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: interesting to see how their offense plays against a really

851
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: good defense. Miami's top ten in total defense. It's a

852
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: rivalry game, and as you'd expect a rivalry game, it's

853
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: normally leans toward the underdog. The last twenty meetings, the

854
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 3: dog has won fifteen of those. In the last ten

855
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: times the dog has been an underdog at home, they've

856
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: covered eight of those, So I would lean Florida State

857
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: in this game. I don't think it's high enough for

858
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 3: us to use, but if it got a little higher,

859
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 3: we probably leaned Florida State.

860
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: Are both of these teams top ten teams in the country.

861
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: It's really early to tell, and Florida State does have

862
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: a loss. Miami has looked very good. As I say,

863
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: the coach, and this has been going on forever with

864
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: Mario Crystabal. He just does one dumb thing every year,

865
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: and he's going to cost this team For all I know,

866
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: they'll run the table and going to the National Championship

867
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: game and he'll do his dumbell thing then. But he

868
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: does know how to build a program. He does assemble

869
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: tremendous talent. He's just one of these guys that needs

870
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: to have an assistant make a lot of the in

871
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: game decisions rather than him. Anyway, they both like me

872
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: as really good, hard hitting football teams, kind of back

873
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 2: to what we've seen from the State of Florida in

874
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 2: the past. Do you think they're top ten teams?

875
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: I think Miami right now is a top ten team.

876
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: If they win this game, they're absolutely a top ten team.

877
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: But I agree with you, don't. I can't stand their coach.

878
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: He's going to lose a game or two for him

879
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: by making dumb decisions at some point. Unless they're just

880
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: that much talent, more talented than everyone else. I think

881
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: Florida State is fringe top ten. If they would have

882
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 3: won last week, you know you're looking at a top

883
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 3: ten team. This game will tell a lot about both

884
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 3: those teams.

885
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: The Cristobal reminds me of a guy who used to

886
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: coach at LSU less miles. Every year he'd do something stupid,

887
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: but he assembled incredible talent and he was an innovative coach,

888
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: but he made just bizarre ind game decisions and it

889
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: always had cost them. All Right, we have to turn

890
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: our attention to the Wisconsin program, which just appears right

891
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: now to be bleak. They're in a transition year, which

892
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be the third year of a new head coach,

893
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: but they are, and they're facing the toughest schedule, probably

894
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: of any team in college football. Their most witable conference

895
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: game was two weeks ago against Maryland, and they got pasted.

896
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: Before we talk about this weekend's Michigan game, you're in Madison.

897
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: You're close to what's going on over there, the state

898
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: of the program, and after what we saw against Maryland,

899
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: some people are seriously asking if they're going to lose

900
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: every game on the remainder of their schedule. Could they

901
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: really be a two to ten team finishing with ten

902
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: losses in a row or is it not that dire?

903
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: Well, they're going to be underdogs in every game from

904
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: this point on, so yeah, it's highly possible they lose

905
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: every game from this point on. They're actually they've been

906
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 3: in a double digits underdog once. They're going to be

907
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: a double digit underdog four more times this year, so

908
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 3: almost half their games they're going to be double digit underdogs.

909
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: The last time that happened was Elva this first year

910
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety. Now they're playing a much more difficult

911
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: schedule than they have in the past, which I mean every.

912
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: Bad team in the Big Ten is not in their

913
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: schedule and every good one. You know, the Big Ten's

914
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: got all these teams and some aren't very good, but

915
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: Wisconsin doesn't catch any of them. The weakest one was

916
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: probably Maryland. No, maybe Maryland is better than we think

917
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: they are. It's too early to tell, but they just

918
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: don't have any of the cupcakes in there. The fear

919
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: that I have is that the coach is going to

920
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: lose the team and players are going to mentally check out,

921
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: and it could get really ugly. And I see some

922
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: of Luke Fickl's press conferences and I mean, I don't

923
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 2: know how you're supposed to act at press conferences like this,

924
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: but he I don't know that. I want to say

925
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: he seems defeated, but I think he just realizes that

926
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: talent wise, his team is overmatched. Is there any reason

927
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: to be more optimistic than what I draw out there?

928
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: No, I think I think you're right. I don't you know,

929
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: he's probably running out of stuff to say.

930
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to I mean, they asked, what

931
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: are you supposed to say? I mean, you keep losing

932
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: in this? And he so he says, well, we've got

933
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: to do this, We've got to do this. But there's

934
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: there's nothing to say, I mean, and he's got to

935
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: be frustrated. He's a guy that has been successful everywhere.

936
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: He was an interim coach at Ohio State like ten

937
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: years ago, and they didn't have a very good year

938
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 2: that year. But that was I forget who it was.

939
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: It was it urban Meyer who walked away, or Tressel

940
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: or somebody. He inherited a team that wasn't really his

941
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 2: and he was only an interim coach. But when you're

942
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: somebody that's been in football and have always been successful,

943
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: it's hard to figure out what to do when you're

944
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: not because you've never been confronted with a lack of

945
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: success before.

946
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the problem right now is their

947
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 3: depth is not good. I mean, their offensive line loses

948
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 3: guys and they're one of the worst offensive lines in

949
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 3: the Big Ten. They lose their quarterback and their backup

950
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 3: look decent against some bad teams, and that they're just

951
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: they're not really deep and they can't afford to lose

952
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: those type of guys and be competitive against these type

953
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: of teams. And that's where they sit right now.

954
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: People are saying Fickle can't be fired because of his buyout.

955
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that. I think he can be fired,

956
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: and I think these things are negotiable, and I think

957
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: Luke Fickel wants to coach again if he is fired here,

958
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: so you negotiate a buyout. I'm just not sure that

959
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: it's the right thing to do. I think he made

960
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 2: a terrible decision in switching to an air raid offense

961
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: and picked the wrong coordinator to do it, and has

962
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: set his offense back. Not the two years that they

963
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: had it, but three because they're trying to redirect everything.

964
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: I just think that if they're going to go out

965
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 2: and take a look at hiring somebody new, you'd be

966
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: hiring somebody who has the profile a fickle Fickle lost

967
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 2: only one game is last season at Cincinnati and went

968
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 2: to the Final four in college football. I mean, they'd

969
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: be looking for another guy of that profile, and then

970
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 2: you have everybody transfer your start all over again. But

971
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if they do go two and ten or

972
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: three and nine, I think that the pressure to fire

973
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: him would be overwhelming. I'm just not convinced it's the

974
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 2: right thing to do, real quick quick. On the Michigan game,

975
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 2: Michigan might not be quite as good as some of

976
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 2: the Michigan Harbough teams in the past, but they're still

977
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: really good. I think Michigan's favored by what's seventeen against

978
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: Wisconsin on Saturday. They gave it in Michigan. By the way,

979
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: have you ever seen that stadium you've ever been to Ianna.

980
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: They call it the Big House, so unusual, hundred thousand

981
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: seats but single deck, so I mean the top row

982
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: of that. I don't even know. How about the row.

983
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: It's got to be like row one hundred and fifteen

984
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: or something. It's just such an unusual stadium, but they

985
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: managed to They managed to fill that thing up anyway.

986
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the badges in Michigan.

987
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and interesting the stadium. When you look at the stadium,

988
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 3: it doesn't look big because it doesn't look very it

989
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: goes down into the ground. So like the top one

990
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 3: hundred and fifteenth row or whatever is not that high

991
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: from the ground. It goes down into.

992
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 2: Because the stadium was sunk into the ground.

993
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But it's you know, I think

994
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 3: Wisconsin's chances they got to somehow stay in it early.

995
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: They scored seventeen old points in the first half and

996
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: twenty two possessions this year. And those are again some

997
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 3: bad teams. I mean, Alabama was good, but there's some

998
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 3: bad teams out there. If they in Michigan scored seventy

999
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: six points in the first half in four games. If

1000
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: Wisconsin gets behind early, they've shown they don't have the

1001
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 3: offense to come back. They don't. They got behind against

1002
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: the Alabama got blown out, They got behind against Maryland,

1003
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 3: couldn't do anything. They somehow got to keep this game

1004
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 3: close into the second half. I don't know if they

1005
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: can do it or not. Michigan's defense is good, not

1006
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 3: as good as they have been. They've got a freshman

1007
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: quarterback who's making multi millions of dollars because he was

1008
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: the best recruiter.

1009
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: Freshman quarterback was making about as much money as Jordan Love.

1010
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah exactly. I mean, I think it's

1011
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 3: gonna be tough. If they can somehow ugly the game

1012
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: up and stay in it into the second half though,

1013
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 3: the chance to make it a game. But if they

1014
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 3: get behind big in the first half again, they're done.

1015
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: They just can't. They don't have the offense.

1016
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they the oldest one of the oldest sayings

1017
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: is no old line no oh, and that's their problem.

1018
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: Let's try to attention to the NFL. I think maybe

1019
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: the most bitter rest of the game in the league

1020
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: is the game tonight. We're doing the podcast on Thursday,

1021
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: the Rams and the forty nine Ers. I won't even

1022
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: give it an intro other than that. Your thoughts on

1023
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: that game.

1024
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: Well, the lines, the crazy line move in this game.

1025
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: So the Rams open is a three point favorite. Right now,

1026
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: they're eight and a half and nine. So that move

1027
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: that moved through four through six, through seven, and now

1028
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: it's almost ten.

1029
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: Why is pretty party? The quarterback's been banged up. Is

1030
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: he playing for San Francisco?

1031
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: No, No, he's out, But I mean mac Jones. Their

1032
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: backup has started in two games and won them both

1033
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: and looked okay.

1034
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: As backups go, he's right there with Malik Willis as

1035
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: being one of the two or three best backups. I

1036
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: would think he's been a starter in the NFL.

1037
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he started two games this year and they

1038
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: won them both and looked look decent. But the Niners

1039
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 3: are really banged up. Their wide receivers are banged up.

1040
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: They have some offensive line issues. The Rams are healthier.

1041
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: I think the Rams are a top five ish NFL

1042
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 3: team right now. You know, the niners three wins have

1043
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: come by a combined ten points, so they've played a

1044
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: bunch of close games. They could have a worst record

1045
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: and the Rams could easily be four. Now we know

1046
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: their one losses at Philadelphia. You know how that ended.

1047
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: And I used them as my pick last week, a

1048
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: little bit lucky and covering. I had the terrible three

1049
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: and a half, but they got the touchdown late in

1050
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: the game went to win by a full touchdown. But yeah,

1051
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think they're a really, really

1052
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: good team. I both two of the best coaches in

1053
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: the NFL. I mean, Shanahan's great coach and the Rams coach.

1054
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: His name is scaping my head right now, McVeigh McVeigh.

1055
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: They're both really good coaches. They're both second generation coaches.

1056
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: I think San Francisco is going to give them a

1057
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: fight in that game. And home field situation is so

1058
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: weird with the Rams having so few local fans and

1059
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: so many of the visiting team fans coming in. There

1060
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: no Packer game this weekend, so let's preview another game.

1061
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 2: The Ravens play the Texans, And the reason Mike I

1062
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: pulled this one out is these two teams were both

1063
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,439
Speaker 2: ought to be Super Bowl contenders, and they're both one

1064
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: and three, and they both have big name quarterbacks. They're

1065
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 2: both one and three. I know it's early in the

1066
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: season and it's not even a divisional game, but I

1067
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: think this is a must win game. It's really hard,

1068
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: even with the extended season now, to make the playoffs.

1069
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 2: If you start one and four and one of these

1070
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: teams is going to lose your thoughts in this game,

1071
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: because it just doesn't seem like either of these teams

1072
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,439
Speaker 2: is as bad as their poor one and three records.

1073
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: Well, they've got two different situations here, because the Ravens

1074
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: are really good offensively, you know, they ranked number second

1075
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: yards for play number three and scoring. Their defense stinks.

1076
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 3: They're thirty second in total gas.

1077
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: That's so unlike that program too. I mean, the Ravens

1078
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: have had a great defense.

1079
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: Forever and they're bad right now. And they're banged up

1080
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 3: on defense. If you look at two of their three losses,

1081
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: the offense scored thirty or more points eight games. They

1082
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 3: lost two of their three losses. They've got five or

1083
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: six starters injured on defense. And then Houston's the exact opposite.

1084
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: Their defense is really good and their offense stinks. And

1085
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: they to give you an idea of how bad their

1086
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 3: offense has been going into the fourth quarter last week

1087
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: against Tennessee, so they had played fifteen quarters going into

1088
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, they had scored three total touchdowns in

1089
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 3: fifteen quarters, and then they scored three in the fourth

1090
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 3: quarter last week to match their total the first fifteen

1091
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 3: quarters against a bad team in Tennessee. Maybe that turns

1092
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 3: them around. I don't know. The line move in this

1093
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: game has been crazy as well. The look aheadline in

1094
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 3: this game was Baltimore minus nine and a half and

1095
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: Houston is favored by one and a half right now

1096
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: because Jackson's not going to play at quarterback and their

1097
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: defensive injuries are massive right now. Yeah, we're not going

1098
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,959
Speaker 3: to use this game either way, but it's a huge

1099
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: game for both teams.

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01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, one team has their quarterback, although he's

1101
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: played badly, that's Houston, and the other team has maybe

1102
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in the NFL and he's out, but

1103
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: they still have a surrounding cast on offense. It's real, real, good, Mike.

1104
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting the backup for the Ravens. Who's going to

1105
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: start a quarterback for them?

1106
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 3: It's doing an interesting part that it's Cooper Rush, but

1107
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 3: the used to the Cowboys. Correct, Yeah, he's with the Cowboys,

1108
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: So Lamar Jackson. Since he's got drafted in twenty eighteen,

1109
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: he's won seventy two percent of the games that he

1110
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: started in the NFL. In the fourteen games he hasn't started,

1111
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 3: Baltimore's four and ten.

1112
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 2: So that shows you how Yeah, that means that means

1113
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: he's really good, you know.

1114
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're gonna have to change their offense, right.

1115
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: Their offense is predicated on him moving around and running

1116
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 3: some Mark.

1117
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: Cooper rushed the pocket quarterback.

1118
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, correct, correct, So it's going to look completely different

1119
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: this week for them.

1120
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 2: Okay, recapping our picks from last week, which Mike doesn't

1121
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: want us to do. Mike thought Indiana and Iowa would

1122
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: score more than forty seven and a half and they didn't.

1123
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: They're just it's so hard to figure out some of

1124
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: these teams. I think Illinois is better than Iowa, but

1125
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: Indiana beat iow Illinois by sixty points and they beat

1126
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: Iowa by five points. So it's just it's hard to

1127
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: figure a lot of this stuff out. Paul took the

1128
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: forty nine ers to beat the Jaguars by four and more.

1129
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: We're just discussing the forty nine as they lost the

1130
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: game to Jacksonville. So he took a loss, and Paul

1131
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 2: list me is I guess Yeah. I was thinking I'm

1132
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 2: three and one, I'm four, and how in the world

1133
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 2: could I short change myself? But this is the uh

1134
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: sixth week. Yeah, I'm four, And when I took thet

1135
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: I won't say lucky, but fortunate here. I had the

1136
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: Rams three and a half over the Colts. That game

1137
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: was tied and the Rams got a touchdown. Often you

1138
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: just get the field goal and you don't cover. So

1139
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 2: I moved to four and one with my picks. Then,

1140
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 2: all right, we'll make some point spread picks pro college

1141
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: games to be played this weekend, Paul, you get to

1142
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: go first, the Lions and the Bengals. In fact, I

1143
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 2: have strong thoughts on that game myself. That's ten Detroit

1144
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 2: on the road at Cincinnati is favored by ten. The

1145
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: Patriots and the Bills. Right, lad, you're asking about the NFL.

1146
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: There's fewer games to scroll through. That game is that's

1147
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: the Sunday night game. It's in Buffalo, and the Bills

1148
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 2: are favored at home by eight and a half. The

1149
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs and the Jaguars. Yes, about the Chiefs and the

1150
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: day that's Monday night, the Monday night game. That game

1151
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: is in Jacksonville. But the Chiefs on the road are

1152
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: favored by three and a half. You're taking the Chiefs.

1153
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: You're taking the Chiefs to win by four or more

1154
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: on the road at Jacksonville. You might want to reconsider

1155
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: going against Jacksonville what you did last week and lost

1156
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: in this, Kansas City seems to me to be better

1157
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: than I thought they were going to be. Once again,

1158
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: we're only a few weeks into the season and we

1159
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: already realized Week one is completely irrelevant. I mean, Detroit's

1160
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: an example. There's just so many teams that played either

1161
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: good or bad or Week one, and he just every

1162
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: year people overreact to Week one and you can just

1163
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 2: already see it. Anyway, why do you like the Chiefs

1164
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: over Jacksonville here? Well, you say that, I mean they

1165
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: do Jacksonville. Jacksonville's a hard read because they're in such

1166
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 2: a crappy division, so when they play in the division,

1167
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 2: somebody's got to win. But the quarterbacks in his prime

1168
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs are You often pick games now you mentioned one game.

1169
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: I do have an opinion, but you often pick games

1170
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: in which I'm completely mystified by. And I do think

1171
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 2: Kansas City is much better that I think they might

1172
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 2: be better last year than they were last year when

1173
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 2: they went to the super Bowl, but did it with mirrors.

1174
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 2: They seem so far this year to be a more

1175
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 2: complete team in the offense is bounced back a little bit. Yeah,

1176
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: Bill's on the Patriots. I've another impossible game with that

1177
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: big spread. Mike, do you have any quick thoughts on

1178
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: Paul's pick of the Chiefs over the Jaguars on Monday?

1179
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Jaguars have a good record. They have

1180
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 3: one loss on the season, you know, three and one,

1181
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: but they've been helped by they're the number one turnover

1182
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 3: team in the NFL. Margin they're plus nine and turnovers

1183
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 3: all right.

1184
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: And turnovers are often luck, not always, but often luck.

1185
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 3: Their luck a lot of times. And they again I've

1186
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: talked about this on this show for years, if you

1187
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 3: win the turnover battle in your game, you're gonna win

1188
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 3: seventy five to eighty percent of the time. That's just

1189
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 3: the way it is in the NFL. And they're plus

1190
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 3: nine already, so that has a lot to do with

1191
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 3: why they sit where they are. Chiefs. I think they

1192
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 3: might be a little better than last year. I'm still

1193
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: not quite sold on them. I see, I understand why

1194
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: they're three and a half in this game. I think

1195
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: Jacksonville's pretty overrated for a three and one team, to

1196
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 3: be honest, right now, so you.

1197
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: Kind of think maybe Paul's right. I'm like always a

1198
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 2: three and a half.

1199
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 3: You think if it was under three?

1200
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, give me Mike needs his win. Where are

1201
01:06:58,560 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: we going with our games?

1202
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 3: Well, let's get one college and one NFL college. I

1203
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 3: need the Iowa State Cincinnati at three twenty seven. Three

1204
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 3: twenty eight is the number.

1205
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cincinnati is better than I thought they'd be. But

1206
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sure they're bed. I just don't know if

1207
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: they're bet In the Iowa State, Cincinnati at home is

1208
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: favored by one and a half over Iowa State.

1209
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 3: And then in the NFL, how about the uh well

1210
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: two in the NFL Saints Giants Giants said, Saints Saints.

1211
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 2: Giants, Though, there's a marquee game for you, the Saints

1212
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 2: and the Giants. That game is in New Orleans. The

1213
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: Saints are favored by one and a half.

1214
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 3: And then Denver at Philadelphia.

1215
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: That's a better game. Broncos and the Eagles. Here we

1216
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: go there it is uh three and a half. The

1217
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: Eagles at home favored by three and a half. Broncos

1218
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: have a really good defense, yes they do.

1219
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 3: Let's go with the college game. I'm gonna take Cincinnati

1220
01:07:58,600 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 3: minus one and a half over IWA.

1221
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cincinnati's just better than I thought they were. Frankly,

1222
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: they don't seem to have missed the beat since Luke

1223
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: Vikele left Cincinnati. Iowa State still a really good team too.

1224
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: Why do you like Cincinnati?

1225
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 3: I like the Cincinnati is a lot better than people think. Cincinnati.

1226
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 3: Offensively is really good. Their top twenty in total offense

1227
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 3: averaged forty points a game. They're number three in the

1228
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 3: whole country and yards per play. They average over eight

1229
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 3: yards per play offensively, and they've played some decent teams,

1230
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 3: including Nebraska. They averaged six point three yards per carry,

1231
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 3: which is ninth in the country. Their offenses is really good.

1232
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm not sold on Iowa State. I'll be honest. They

1233
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: beat Kansas State the first week. We see what. Kansas

1234
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 3: State is not that great this year. They looked good

1235
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 3: last week. But the thing about Iowa State last week

1236
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 3: is they lost their two starting corners last week, who

1237
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 3: started fifty five games between them. They're both gone. They're

1238
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 3: both lost for the season last week. That's a huge

1239
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 3: blow to them. I like the fact that Iowa State's

1240
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 3: played all home games. The one true road game they

1241
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 3: played was at Arkansas State, who's bad. Arkansas State is

1242
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 3: zero to four, including losses to ul Monroe and Kanansas State.

1243
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 3: Iowa State won that game by eight points with a

1244
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 3: touchdown in the fourth quarter. They struggled in that game.

1245
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 3: The numbers, I look at it across the board, Cincinnati's

1246
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 3: better at the yards per play margin, those type of names,

1247
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 3: type of games. The one thing I also like about

1248
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 3: this game, Mark is you've got a team that's ranked

1249
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 3: in the top fifteen against a team that's not even

1250
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 3: receiving votes in the rankings. And Iowa State was favored

1251
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 3: in this game and it switched to Cincinnati favored. You

1252
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 3: don't see that too often. There's a reason Cincinnati's favored

1253
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: at home in this game. And I'll lay the one

1254
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 3: and a half.

1255
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to go to the NFL. It's one

1256
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: of the games that Paul mentioned, and I'm getting over

1257
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 2: my version of laying a lot of points. It's the

1258
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,799
Speaker 2: Detroit Cincinnati game. The Lions on the road are favored

1259
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: by ten. Picking double digit road favorites used to be

1260
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: way back in the day. A really dumb thing to do.

1261
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: It get throw week one out. The Lions are spectacular

1262
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: if you ignore Week one, where they look just terrible

1263
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 2: against Green Bay since then, they've been spectacular and Cincinnati

1264
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: is an absolute mess. Paul. Whether Mike mentioned the Ravens

1265
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: without Lamar Jackson, it's the same thing Cincinnati without Joe

1266
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,959
Speaker 2: Burrow and he's out for months. They have no offense

1267
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 2: without him. They scored only three points last week. I

1268
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: just Detroit is scoring again. Take Week one out. They're

1269
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: over thirty points every game. It doesn't matter whose defense

1270
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,839
Speaker 2: is facing them. Throw the green Bay game out. Detroit's

1271
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: going to score over thirty and I think they'll throw

1272
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: a score over thirty against Cincinnati. And with a ten points,

1273
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 2: I can't fathom the Bengals scoring twenty. They just seem

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Speaker 2: to have no offense at all without Burrow, and the

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Speaker 2: season seems to be spiraling out of control for them.

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Speaker 2: So I'm laying all ten on the road with the

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Speaker 2: with the Detroit Lions. I know you just don't like

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Speaker 2: laying a lot of points with the NFL, but I

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Speaker 2: think the spy calls for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think San Cincinnati is gonna cash it here soon.

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Speaker 3: The third offense, like you said, it, is horrible. Last

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Speaker 3: two weeks against Minnesota and Denver, they've been outscored seventy

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Speaker 3: six to thirteen in those two games, and now they're

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Speaker 3: playing an offense that's way better than Minnesota and Denver's offense,

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Speaker 3: So I don't disagree with that. Another interesting point on

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Speaker 3: Paul's take taking Kansas City. Remember Cincinnati three weeks ago

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Speaker 3: beat Jacksonville at home thirty one to seven, thirty one

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Speaker 3: to twenty seven, and Burrow went out early in that game,

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Speaker 3: and they still beat Jacksonville, So that might tell you

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville is just not where they should be. I don't

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Speaker 3: disagree with the player. I'm not huge in the land

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Speaker 3: huge points on the road, but there's no way I'd

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Speaker 3: take Cincinnati in that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think that the numbers on it are

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Speaker 2: no longer as terrible as they used to be, and

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Speaker 2: there isn't as much parody, and that there's just more

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Speaker 2: really bad teams and really good teams now in the

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Speaker 2: NFL than there was in the past. So I'm willing

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Speaker 2: to lay you agree you were going to I assume

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Speaker 2: you were going to take Detroit when you were mentioning

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Speaker 2: asking about that game as well. Yeah, well you kind

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Speaker 2: of regret not to. You just think, for all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, you're into this impression that I've got things

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Speaker 2: figured out this season, and I just had Whenever you

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Speaker 2: start thinking that way, that means it's about to crash

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Speaker 2: to an end. Anyway, We'll talk to Mike again next week.

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Speaker 2: We always do our football preview on the podcast that

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Speaker 2: we release on Thursday. ASA wins dot com is where

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