WEBVTT - Eddie & Jason Williams -- 10/17/25

0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:05.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, back on the Eddie and Rocky Show, Rock

0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Out Today. Jason Williams from The Inquire at Cincinnati dot

0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:16.079
<v Speaker 1>Com is with me here on a Friday, which makes

0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:21.760
<v Speaker 1>this a Friday kind of extra special because coming off

0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:26.480
<v Speaker 1>of a Bengals win that game last night, that was fun,

0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that's all that. Oh yeah, that was just.

0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.480
<v Speaker 2>A fun game to watch, and you know, really really

0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.280
<v Speaker 2>happy for Bengals fans. You know, you saw that very

0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.920
<v Speaker 2>game last year and you knew exactly how that game

0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.440
<v Speaker 2>was going to go. And for it to go the

0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.320
<v Speaker 2>other way finally this time, for them to win in

0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.240
<v Speaker 2>an outscoring of you know, outscoring the other team finally,

0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:51.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that was pretty cool.

0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's talk to our usual Friday guest around about

0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.880
<v Speaker 1>this time. It's our good friend Richard Skinner from Local

0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:01.440
<v Speaker 1>twelve and Skinny Ears talking there. And that was we

0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:06.479
<v Speaker 1>were talking to Jason Hoffman the other day and talking

0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.920
<v Speaker 1>about how one would be fun to see an old

0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:13.520
<v Speaker 1>fashioned shootout between these eighty plus years where the quarterbacks

0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.119
<v Speaker 1>out in the field, and that's when it turned out

0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:15.319
<v Speaker 1>to be.

0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they combined for seven touchdown passes and two interceptions,

0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.440
<v Speaker 3>both by Aaron Rodgers, but the seven touchdown passes for

0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:27.080
<v Speaker 3>two four year old quarterbacks.

0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Is just insane to think about.

0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.679
<v Speaker 3>It's one thing to think about when you think that

0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Joe Flacco has only been here for nine days basically

0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.400
<v Speaker 3>between the time he got traded in that game, and

0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.720
<v Speaker 3>he's already played two games in the nine games span.

0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, two of the most interesting.

0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.759
<v Speaker 4>Things last night, and I was down there for Zach

0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:48.040
<v Speaker 4>killer press conference today, was Joe mentioned, actually Zach mentioned

0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.000
<v Speaker 4>last night. Joe reiterated that there were times where Zach

0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.200
<v Speaker 4>would call in a play and they're so long, the

0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.760
<v Speaker 4>play calls are so long that Joe didn't completely understand it,

0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.600
<v Speaker 4>and so there are times they lined up in correctly

0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.480
<v Speaker 4>and I and Joe said, he goes. I was so

0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.760
<v Speaker 4>grateful that Zach was patient and just let kind of

0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.360
<v Speaker 4>the play go because I kind of.

0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Knew the concept. I knew where, you know, we needed

0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.040
<v Speaker 3>to go. I knew we didn't line up the way

0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:11.920
<v Speaker 3>we're supposed to line up.

0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:13.919
<v Speaker 4>I had that danswered, I mean, you only have three

0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.280
<v Speaker 4>timeouts to burn, so you can't just keep going. You

0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.160
<v Speaker 4>lined up long time out. You line up long time out.

0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.239
<v Speaker 4>And he laughed, and he said, you know, It's great

0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.320
<v Speaker 4>that Joe said he was patient or I was paid

0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.520
<v Speaker 4>with him because he was patient with me. Because they

0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.840
<v Speaker 4>said those play calls sometimes they just go so fast

0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.880
<v Speaker 4>and you just don't hear them, and so you're dealing

0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.080
<v Speaker 4>with that on top of all of that that, like,

0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:34.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, the play calls one thing, and guys are

0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.079
<v Speaker 4>going the wrong way, line up the wrong lene. You just go,

0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:41.120
<v Speaker 4>let's go, let's play. And it was wild to watch

0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:45.760
<v Speaker 4>how wide open Jamar Chase got on easy routes. It

0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:48.839
<v Speaker 4>was listen, man, I'm I'm an old guy. Man, I've

0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.519
<v Speaker 4>seen a lot of stuff in this league. Last night

0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.040
<v Speaker 4>was in the top five of wild.

0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I agree, And it was funny along those lines.

0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Zach joked last night said, you know that that Joe's

0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, he has to he doesn't understand my my

0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma accent, or he's taking a look like whatever. Justice jokingly,

0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:13.000
<v Speaker 2>of course, but yeah, you're right, Like now that you

0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:17.440
<v Speaker 2>sit here the day after and the game gets over

0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.720
<v Speaker 2>so late and you're trying to process it, and it's

0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.920
<v Speaker 2>like holy cow. And then you're like the two old

0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.840
<v Speaker 2>guys and Jamar Chase with the record sixteen catches and

0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.240
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty incredible. I mean the fact that then and

0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.760
<v Speaker 2>then the the Bengals, you know, go down there and

0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.200
<v Speaker 2>the friar moveth has just got to haunt those guys,

0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, and Aaron Rodgers does what Aaron Rodgers does

0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:44.200
<v Speaker 2>at quintessential roll out, finds him down the field with

0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.440
<v Speaker 2>what two thirty one somewhere around and there, and you're

0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:52.839
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, and you're kind of like, here we go again. Yeah,

0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:54.600
<v Speaker 2>that was it. That was the game right there.

0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you were yeah, seconds away from a no, you

0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:02.920
<v Speaker 3>were seconds or not sign. You are minutes away from

0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:07.560
<v Speaker 3>a soul snatching, season ending loss, right because there's no

0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.120
<v Speaker 3>way you rebound from that. You just don't. It's your

0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.680
<v Speaker 3>fifth in a row. You did everything on offense you

0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.400
<v Speaker 3>could literally possibly do. I mean, you got twenty three

0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.920
<v Speaker 3>targets to Jamar Chase and he caught sixteen of them.

0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you did everything in your power and you're

0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.400
<v Speaker 3>minutes away from a soul snatching loss. And then two

0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.920
<v Speaker 3>completions of Javar and then a complettion up the sideline

0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.560
<v Speaker 3>with te Higgins who had the wherewithal And and knew it.

0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.680
<v Speaker 3>They told him ahead of time to slide down so

0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:33.839
<v Speaker 3>they could eat up some clock. And then I guarantee

0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.359
<v Speaker 3>you everybody's holding their breath on the on the field goal.

0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you got a you got an undrafted rookie

0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.720
<v Speaker 3>long snapper, a second year punter who dropped the snap

0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.719
<v Speaker 3>last year, and and you know, Evan nick Pherson.

0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:46.320
<v Speaker 4>Hasn't made a clutch. This is no knock and you

0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.200
<v Speaker 4>just hasn't made a clutch field goal in a while.

0:04:48.240 --> 0:04:49.920
<v Speaker 4>He's made a lot of them, but he hasn't made

0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.919
<v Speaker 4>one in a while. And so you're still even if

0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.400
<v Speaker 4>it's a thirty six yard you're like, eh, what could

0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.279
<v Speaker 4>possibly go in here? And when things are going haywire,

0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.960
<v Speaker 4>you either lose it thirty one thirty because of the

0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.359
<v Speaker 4>friar routh touschdown and don't get your range, or you

0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.000
<v Speaker 4>lose it because there's something wacky on the field goal.

0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:05.120
<v Speaker 3>And they won it.

0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.840
<v Speaker 4>And man, I'm telling you, I was in the locker

0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.240
<v Speaker 4>room today and usually the day after game, like Mondays

0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:12.039
<v Speaker 4>are a ghost town.

0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.080
<v Speaker 3>They come out of meetings and they snatch up their

0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:15.480
<v Speaker 3>stuff and they're gone.

0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:21.679
<v Speaker 4>And today, man, they're dancing in there crazy.

0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, man, the way that game

0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:30.839
<v Speaker 1>started also yeah, the Steelers passed. They were all over

0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.400
<v Speaker 1>flat though. It was like this is gonna be brutal.

0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Then all of a sudden, I mean, what happened? Guys?

0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.800
<v Speaker 1>You tell me. Did the offensive line just stout up

0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.640
<v Speaker 1>or did the Steelers back down on the rush? What

0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:44.320
<v Speaker 1>happened there?

0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I will say this, I think I don't

0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:50.080
<v Speaker 4>have the exact number.

0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:53.120
<v Speaker 3>It's either ninety eight or ninety nine. Let's just round

0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.599
<v Speaker 3>it to one hundred. Jill Flacco's had one hundred drop

0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.159
<v Speaker 3>backs from the last two games, and he's been sacked

0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.440
<v Speaker 3>three times. And that's the guy who's supposed to be

0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.640
<v Speaker 3>a statue, who is supposed.

0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:04.880
<v Speaker 4>To not be able to move, and he doesn't move.

0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, made a nice run on the Reid option play,

0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.080
<v Speaker 3>but he doesn't move, but he gets it out of

0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.920
<v Speaker 3>his hands so quickly. And I do think I do

0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.760
<v Speaker 3>think the offensive line's played good. Asked that today, I mean,

0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.000
<v Speaker 3>if you found your two guards, and he was kind

0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.480
<v Speaker 3>of wish you washing, because I don't think he wants

0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:22.440
<v Speaker 3>to bury Dylan Fairchild, the rookie, and Lucas Patrick. But

0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.839
<v Speaker 3>Dalton Reiser was awful at right guard and the two

0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.880
<v Speaker 3>starts he made He's been great at left card the

0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.320
<v Speaker 3>two starts he's made. Dylan Rivers gave up a sack

0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.400
<v Speaker 3>last night, the rookie right guard, but for the most

0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.320
<v Speaker 3>part he keeps the sending. Marius Men's last night was great.

0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Orlando Brown Junior hasn't played well the last few games,

0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.080
<v Speaker 3>and suddenly he played well last night. And you know again,

0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:42.880
<v Speaker 3>some of it is Flackel gets it out of his

0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.800
<v Speaker 3>hand fast. I think the game before the Packer game

0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.960
<v Speaker 3>when he got out of his hands in two point

0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.120
<v Speaker 3>five seconds or less, he was twenty one of twenty five.

0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't have that metric from last night. I don't

0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:54.480
<v Speaker 3>know what that is. But he got out of his

0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:58.520
<v Speaker 3>hands so fast, like there was a touchdown to t Higgins,

0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.280
<v Speaker 3>the one where te Carter out to twenty and then

0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.640
<v Speaker 3>race the last twenty yards into the end zone. If

0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.479
<v Speaker 3>you watch that play from behind, and I am bed

0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.760
<v Speaker 3>tweets in my game stories, I'm doing it. I embedded

0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.800
<v Speaker 3>a tweet of Joe the scene from behind the line

0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.080
<v Speaker 3>of screamage, Like with Joe Flacco's looking at he's through

0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.960
<v Speaker 3>that with such anticipation, like there's a defender, but he

0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.520
<v Speaker 3>knows where he's gonna go and he's gonna go behind

0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.600
<v Speaker 3>the defender in front of the other defender.

0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.240
<v Speaker 4>And he puts in a perfect spot where he catches

0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:27.680
<v Speaker 4>it goes up the field. I mean a lot of

0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.240
<v Speaker 4>this is on Joe Flacco getting out of his hands quickly,

0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.800
<v Speaker 4>So it's I don't even know what the sand that.

0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:34.440
<v Speaker 4>It has been just.

0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Remarkable to watch, especially the last six quarters of this offense, and.

0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Even his unremarkable stuff was remarkable. I was trying to

0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.120
<v Speaker 2>squeeze this in my columns and say dot com, and

0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't figure out a way to get it in there.

0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:46.600
<v Speaker 2>You know how that goes skinny when you're trying to

0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:47.320
<v Speaker 2>write something.

0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, read right. Well no, no, not the read option.

0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:52.440
<v Speaker 1>It was.

0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.840
<v Speaker 2>It was in midway through the third quarter. They're down

0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:02.440
<v Speaker 2>in the red zone there and he you know, Flacco's

0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.360
<v Speaker 2>under pressure on second, second goal and he drops back

0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:07.000
<v Speaker 2>under pressure.

0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.120
<v Speaker 1>He just throws the ball out.

0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:09.240
<v Speaker 5>Of the little way.

0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Then on the next play, third and goal, he rolls

0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.720
<v Speaker 2>out right. No one's open. He's basically throws the ball

0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.560
<v Speaker 2>on the ground close enough to a receiver. They chip

0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.920
<v Speaker 2>shot field goal. They go up twenty to ten. They

0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.000
<v Speaker 2>don't waste that opportunity there to score and obviously in

0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.040
<v Speaker 2>a close game, and that was in the middle of

0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:32.400
<v Speaker 2>a where they had gone six straight drives where they

0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.760
<v Speaker 2>scored either touchdown or field goal. And I thought again

0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.640
<v Speaker 2>that that right there was part of why they brought

0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacco here because Jake Brown, god God love him,

0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.680
<v Speaker 2>he would have tried to force something there. And we

0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.439
<v Speaker 2>all know when he was forcing stuff, the bad stuff

0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.280
<v Speaker 2>that was happening. But you know that doesn't jump out

0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.720
<v Speaker 2>at you and we're not really breaking that down and

0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, all over the place. But I thought those

0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.880
<v Speaker 2>two consecutive incompletions were really critical.

0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.440
<v Speaker 4>No, that's a great that's a great point.

0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:04.840
<v Speaker 3>I didn't say it in either, but I remember the

0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I remember the sequence like it was two minutes ago.

0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.400
<v Speaker 3>And I think it's one of the reasons they don't

0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.400
<v Speaker 3>go get a Russell Wilson other than you know, some

0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.680
<v Speaker 3>of the locker room via stuff. But it's you know,

0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Russell still thinks he can create with his feet and

0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.880
<v Speaker 3>make plays and he just can't. At some point, you

0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.240
<v Speaker 3>just can't. Joe never did. Joe fucker never did.

0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.199
<v Speaker 4>He never had. It's not been his DNA. It's been

0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:29.160
<v Speaker 4>fight for another down. Yep, and you know that the arms,

0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.320
<v Speaker 4>the arm talent is still there, the anticipation is still there.

0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:33.600
<v Speaker 4>You can tell, man.

0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.720
<v Speaker 3>He he wants so badly to make this work. Like

0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I can't remember the question last night Jason Prescower was

0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.560
<v Speaker 3>a long line of did you ever think you, you know,

0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:42.839
<v Speaker 3>two weeks ago, do you ever think you'd have a

0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.720
<v Speaker 3>chance to feel this again and start again? And he

0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.880
<v Speaker 3>kind of pauses, No, not really, And I think he's

0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.440
<v Speaker 3>relishing the fact that he's getting this opportunity and it's

0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.040
<v Speaker 3>it's just amazing. I said, that's somebody from the We

0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:56.760
<v Speaker 3>were kind of in a circle, you know, waiting for

0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.640
<v Speaker 3>some players in the locker room. I said, you know,

0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.079
<v Speaker 3>if Joe Burrow comes back later this year, I mean

0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.120
<v Speaker 3>you could maybe potentially have two or co comeback Players

0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.000
<v Speaker 3>of the Year in the NFL this year. Joe Flaco

0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.680
<v Speaker 3>for coming back from what he came back from and

0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Joe Burrow for come back when he came back from

0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:11.560
<v Speaker 3>It's insane.

0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Wow, you know what that's uh, Well, for one thing,

0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I also wanted to touch on what you guys think

0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.760
<v Speaker 1>about and who doesn't love to see Mike Tomlin wine

0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.719
<v Speaker 1>about Flaco coming from the Browns to the to the Bengals, like,

0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:33.520
<v Speaker 1>why would you do that? They're stupid? But also, what

0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:36.480
<v Speaker 1>happens at the end of the year. Let's say that Flaco,

0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.240
<v Speaker 1>that's say they win, how whatever, It's going to be

0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.560
<v Speaker 1>five games between now and when he potentially could come back,

0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe six games something like that. Let's say he wins

0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.600
<v Speaker 1>four out of those six games? Do you bring back Burrow?

0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Kill Burrow's Joe Burrow? And if kill Burrow is one

0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.640
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent, it's Jill Burrow times one thousand. I'll use

0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:01.079
<v Speaker 1>an example. People in the audience will not know this, reffors.

0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Some will, I'm so sorry I shouldn't say that way,

0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.240
<v Speaker 1>but most people won't. The nineteen seventy two Miami Dolphins,

0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the finish undefeated. Bob Greasey, their quarterback, their starting quarterback,

0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.080
<v Speaker 1>broke his ankle in game.

0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.880
<v Speaker 3>Four or five. I came rich and an old vet

0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.600
<v Speaker 3>your name, Earl Morele, came in and Earl led him

0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.800
<v Speaker 3>to it, led him all the way to an undefeated season.

0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.760
<v Speaker 3>And then Earl starts the first playoff game and did okay,

0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:23.680
<v Speaker 3>and they came back and won. Then in the second

0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.400
<v Speaker 3>playoff game, they're in Pittsburgh and Earl isn't playing so good,

0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.640
<v Speaker 3>and they turned back to Bob Greasy and then Bob

0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.440
<v Speaker 3>Greasy at that point was healthy, led him to a win,

0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:33.480
<v Speaker 3>and then they started Bob Greasy and the super Bowl

0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.800
<v Speaker 3>and led him to win. Bob Greasy isn't even Joe Burrow.

0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.720
<v Speaker 3>And Bob Greasey is a great player. I mean he

0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.160
<v Speaker 3>was one of the great quarterbacks of his generation. Joe

0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Burrow is too, and I think Joe Flacco understands that. Again,

0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.120
<v Speaker 3>this is all things being equal with Joe Burrow coming

0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.520
<v Speaker 3>back one hundred percent, I mean, when he's one hundred

0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.240
<v Speaker 3>percent and you know he's one hundred percent, I mean,

0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:53.120
<v Speaker 3>there's not even a debate.

0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.280
<v Speaker 4>It's a good question, Eddy, because it was like should

0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:57.560
<v Speaker 4>you write the hot hand?

0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.839
<v Speaker 2>No, sorry, I'm right to Joe went back to that,

0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.600
<v Speaker 2>uh the Tomlin and you know, I know it came

0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.679
<v Speaker 2>off as whiny, and I know this isn't necessarily a

0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.880
<v Speaker 2>local angle to this, but overall, when you look at

0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the AFC North, I mean, he makes a good point

0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.679
<v Speaker 2>and then you're kind of like, I mean, you, no,

0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:15.680
<v Speaker 2>he's not wrong, and you know we were talking you

0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.319
<v Speaker 2>skinny sits a couple of seats away from me in

0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.160
<v Speaker 2>the press box. And you know, we were talking about

0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.760
<v Speaker 2>this last night, about what the heck were the Cleveland

0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Browns thinking about trading this guy? This guy is by

0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:27.960
<v Speaker 2>far was a you know, at least you think like

0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:33.040
<v Speaker 2>he's their best quarterback and uh, you know, I mean clearly,

0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.320
<v Speaker 2>well right, I mean, and they they have the defense

0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.640
<v Speaker 2>to keep him in and like, all right, if you'd

0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.040
<v Speaker 2>have kept flaccoh and he could have done this now, Joe,

0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:41.960
<v Speaker 2>and Cleveland doesn't.

0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:43.839
<v Speaker 1>They don't have a Jamar or t which is a

0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:44.720
<v Speaker 1>huge deal, but.

0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:46.520
<v Speaker 4>Part of it.

0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, No, And to boath things real quick

0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.320
<v Speaker 3>on Tomlin, I mean, he's not wrong, and I think

0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.280
<v Speaker 3>he knew he was scared of Oh my gosh, I'm

0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.320
<v Speaker 3>gonna say, Shoe Flako won a big game. I mean

0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.280
<v Speaker 3>last night, made Mike Tomlin on the road in the

0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.400
<v Speaker 3>AFC North on Thursday night games and win seven.

0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:02.760
<v Speaker 4>You don't think he didn't know that in the back

0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.320
<v Speaker 4>of his mind. I'm O and six. I gotta play

0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:04.680
<v Speaker 4>this guy.

0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.720
<v Speaker 3>And lastly, I mean to the Browns point, I think

0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.199
<v Speaker 3>the Browns just simply did an old pro a solid

0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:10.800
<v Speaker 3>and I.

0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:11.880
<v Speaker 4>Know that's that's usually.

0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:16.720
<v Speaker 3>Like, you know, you came and bail us out in

0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.800
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three and you got us to the playoffs.

0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.520
<v Speaker 3>We're terrible, and we know we're terrible, and let's go

0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:23.400
<v Speaker 3>with a youth movement. Let's let's let's see with the rookie.

0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.719
<v Speaker 3>The two rookies have for us at quarterback, and they

0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.400
<v Speaker 3>did the guy a solid and on every.

0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Acame and cost Oh yeah, exactly with the with that's skinny,

0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.360
<v Speaker 1>we will let you go, buddy, Thanks so much, have

0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.560
<v Speaker 1>great week, go thanks our good friend to Richard Skinner.

0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And with that we check in with traffic and weather.

0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.880
<v Speaker 1>What is going on? Jayson Williams from The Inquirer since

0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.520
<v Speaker 1>ninety dot com is with me, Jase, want to salute

0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.560
<v Speaker 1>our citizen of the day here on the Indiant Rocky Show.

0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.920
<v Speaker 1>It's Mike from Joe's Piece Area in Dayton, my old uh,

0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.400
<v Speaker 1>my old hometown. Mike a big listener of the show,

0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.280
<v Speaker 1>So salute to Mike. Is it Dayton style pizza?

0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, dude, for my money, that thin crust that's

0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.000
<v Speaker 1>real big yeah. I mean you can get it anywhere,

0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.440
<v Speaker 1>but that called that's Detroit style. Or Dayton style, whatever

0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to call it. But yeah, nice thin crust, underrated, man,

0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of goop Dayton Dayton style pizza, underrated. I

0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.880
<v Speaker 1>like it. I'm with it me too, And cheers Mike.

0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh so you were there last night, yes, sir? What

0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:36.840
<v Speaker 1>was the what was the vibe? It looked like I

0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.200
<v Speaker 1>told my wife right when the game started, when the

0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:45.440
<v Speaker 1>when the Steelers just drove, and the fact that Aaron

0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers could stand back in the pocket and dance around

0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.120
<v Speaker 1>for like, yeah, eight ten seconds. You ain't gonna win

0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of games. I can't if you're that's your defense.

0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.160
<v Speaker 1>But they it's mal pulled it out place Place was

0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.680
<v Speaker 1>really really subdued. I thought I thought it was going

0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to be. I thought it would be quite subdued after that,

0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:10.120
<v Speaker 1>and then it felt like it was that way really

0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.280
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, all the way up until well,

0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean until you know, Moneymack get the game winner there,

0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and even then you're just kind of like still eleven

0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.240
<v Speaker 1>second what it was it's eleven seconds? I think was

0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.960
<v Speaker 1>let like, oh, Aaron Rodgers are gonna hit one of

0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:32.280
<v Speaker 1>those hail aris. I legitimately think that that was probably

0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.440
<v Speaker 1>in the back of a lot of Bengals fans minds,

0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.880
<v Speaker 1>because this is exactly the game that has not gone

0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.960
<v Speaker 1>their way the last few seas well last season. You know,

0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that close game.

0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:47.360
<v Speaker 2>That defense is not good and it's probably worse this

0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:51.000
<v Speaker 2>year than it was last year. And I know it

0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that's been a little overshadowed because of the quarterback stuff.

0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:55.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and then.

0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.040
<v Speaker 2>But it was just really magical there that And it's

0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of an overused term, but for someone in there,

0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it might have been Skinny in the press

0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:10.400
<v Speaker 2>box said or PDJ may have said it like Steelers

0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.000
<v Speaker 2>may have scored too fast there the way Flacco was going,

0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.200
<v Speaker 2>and sure enough they did.

0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.640
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what I thought, Yeah, like, maybe slow your

0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:23.120
<v Speaker 1>role here these guys. Uh, Flacco has been all up

0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.800
<v Speaker 1>your butt the whole game, and now all of a sudden,

0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna pull the trigger. My first reaction was, Okay,

0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.960
<v Speaker 1>here's where the Steelers defense is going to show up,

0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.440
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna you kept waiting for that, right, So

0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.640
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be an influencer or they're gonna be in Uh,

0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, something's gonna happen in the interception of some nature.

0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:46.360
<v Speaker 1>And then uh, and then that happened. But watching Flacco

0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:50.600
<v Speaker 1>run for whatever it was thirteen fourteen yards or whatever,

0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there thinking, dude, you look like me running.

0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.560
<v Speaker 1>But hey, there wasn't anybody within ten yards of them.

0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:02.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean that entire stadium him. We were all fooled.

0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.679
<v Speaker 2>Any you just can't help but chuckle. And that was

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.399
<v Speaker 2>that was that was cool? What what?

0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:07.480
<v Speaker 5>What?

0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.240
<v Speaker 2>As as much as Zach Taylor takes a lot of

0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.680
<v Speaker 2>heat for the play calls, there were a couple of

0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.480
<v Speaker 2>moments last night, you were like number one, that was

0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.040
<v Speaker 2>a good play call. Number two there was a call

0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.560
<v Speaker 2>where I mean it was funny because he had challenged

0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.639
<v Speaker 2>the spot and that was one of those spots where like,

0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean they literally I think it was like four

0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.359
<v Speaker 2>inches they needed to go. And you're like Zach is

0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.560
<v Speaker 2>so many times it feels like in the last few

0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.439
<v Speaker 2>years where it's like you try to get cute, you know,

0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:39.560
<v Speaker 2>and like last night, by golly, it was you know,

0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.679
<v Speaker 2>there's Joe Flacco just you know, snuck it right up

0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the middle. I believe Chase came in almost like a

0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of a mini tush push didn't really need to

0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.720
<v Speaker 2>do it, but Chase Brown just kind of comes up,

0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.040
<v Speaker 2>gives him the nudge, didn't need to and uh.

0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.639
<v Speaker 1>First down. Hats off to Chase brow hell of a

0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.560
<v Speaker 1>game last night. I mean, it's great to see because,

0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like when you it's got to happen.

0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:05.240
<v Speaker 2>The way they run the ball allows Flacco, it only

0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.679
<v Speaker 2>helps them. And you know they didn't have that with

0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Jake Browning and you know that, Yeah, I'm not you know,

0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Jake Brownie had his issues, but there were some things

0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:16.720
<v Speaker 2>there that you know, he could have gotten some.

0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Help on with that. We check in with traffic and weather.

0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.760
<v Speaker 1>We got John Mattaree's coming up. But that's one of

0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:24.520
<v Speaker 1>the things I said to my wife last night, was like,

0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not a good night to beat to beat. Jake

0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Browning Show with Jason Williams from the Inquire Cincinnati dot

0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Com is with me and as we do about this

0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.440
<v Speaker 1>time every Friday, Jase, we talked to this fellow right here,

0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:45.600
<v Speaker 1>John Mattei's Channel nine. Don't Waste your money and Johnny,

0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.040
<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about the Bengals game. Obviously it's been

0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:53.840
<v Speaker 1>big topic of discussion. So what has happened to Bengals

0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:58.760
<v Speaker 1>ticket prices? As of I know about one o'clock this morning.

0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:06.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, guys, good afternoon. It is amazing what's happened with

0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Bengals ticket prices. You should have bottom oh about two

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 4>and a half weeks ago and the Boys were in

0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:18.280
<v Speaker 4>the middle of that four game Yid browning at the

0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.919
<v Speaker 4>quarterback and people were saying, it's another lost season. It

0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 4>was looking like another Andy Dalton type of year. And

0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:29.520
<v Speaker 4>the ticket prices were actually dropping to about fifty bucks

0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.359
<v Speaker 4>just a week and a half ago. Two weeks ago,

0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.800
<v Speaker 4>fifty bucks. You want to go into game fifty bucks

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.199
<v Speaker 4>because you know, it just wasn't much demand. And it

0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 4>is unbelievable what has happened since last night about eleven

0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:46.679
<v Speaker 4>thirty pm. The prices are ticking up. And yeah, and

0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:50.960
<v Speaker 4>the this is on Ticketmaster because Ticketmaster does the verified

0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:54.680
<v Speaker 4>we sail very trustworthy. The cheapest game right now I'm

0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:56.440
<v Speaker 4>finding is the upcoming one and a week and a

0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.320
<v Speaker 4>half the Jets, because it's the Jets. What are they like,

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:04.280
<v Speaker 4>They're zh to twelve already, right, you know, you know

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.639
<v Speaker 4>it's a get and there, yeah and there. Now the

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.600
<v Speaker 4>ticket prices are starting at ninety dollars, that's the upper

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 4>deck ninety You want a decent seat in the Bowl.

0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.320
<v Speaker 4>We're talking about two hundred. It's the resale price right

0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 4>now for the jet and they're cheap compared to the

0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:25.720
<v Speaker 4>next weekend when the Bears. The Bear's got to down.

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 4>And when the Bears come, it's sort of like when

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.240
<v Speaker 4>Pittsburgh comes. They tend to bring their fans with them.

0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:37.920
<v Speaker 4>We drive down and they're finding the starting tickets starting

0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 4>prices around one hundred and eighty dollars. That's upper deck

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.639
<v Speaker 4>one eighty, and then you're getting two fifty three hundred

0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:48.359
<v Speaker 4>down in the Bowl. So it is unbelievable. Guys, what's

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.800
<v Speaker 4>happened in just a week and a half since Joey

0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:56.119
<v Speaker 4>two point zero arrived. Because it's amazing. I mean they

0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.399
<v Speaker 4>were giving tickets away for forty and fifty bucks two

0:20:58.440 --> 0:20:58.880
<v Speaker 4>weeks ago.

0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. With the well, the Bears fans are going to

0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.919
<v Speaker 1>be just like the Cubs fans. I mean, look at

0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:08.240
<v Speaker 1>it when the Cubs play here in town. Jase, you

0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:11.280
<v Speaker 1>can testify for this one. You're right. I was gonna say, yeah.

0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.960
<v Speaker 4>You go to Great American and it's all through half right.

0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.360
<v Speaker 1>It might be fifty to fifty easy. Yeah, So that's

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>what we're going to see you here.

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, well yeah, John, I'm on stub Hub right now,

0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, some of those things that you're just mentioning,

0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.880
<v Speaker 2>it's the same old story over there on StubHub too.

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's there.

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.880
<v Speaker 2>There's one in the lower bowl at five forty five

0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.520
<v Speaker 2>right now, there's one in the middle club level at

0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:35.600
<v Speaker 2>seven thirteen.

0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Come on, man, Yeah, that's the.

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.760
<v Speaker 4>Fancy, that's the padded the special path beats. You're covered

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:43.960
<v Speaker 4>from the rain in the snow.

0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:45.199
<v Speaker 1>So the Bears.

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.399
<v Speaker 4>If you want one other chief game, we looked ahead.

0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:50.399
<v Speaker 4>And if you want one other cheap game, it's the

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Arizona Cardinals in December, because Arizona doesn't bring the crowd

0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:58.720
<v Speaker 4>and people are like Arizona, you know, they're not even

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.520
<v Speaker 4>in our division. So you will find cheap receipts for

0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.240
<v Speaker 4>that game. But that's about it, the Jets or Arizona.

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 4>Other than that, the prices are going up. As long

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 4>as Flacco's throwing like he's through last night, those prices

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 4>are gonna keep going on.

0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Well you know guess where it's it's free. It's on

0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 1>my couch, but put it on the TV.

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Yep, sit there on the count. Grab that six pack.

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:26.879
<v Speaker 4>And Natty Light and you are good to go.

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 1>And oh, we were just again talking about Chicago with

0:22:29.880 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the Did you guys hear about the Pope with somebody

0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:35.480
<v Speaker 1>in the crowd when he was in the popemobile and

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody's like going go Cubs. Yeah, you know, he's a

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:42.520
<v Speaker 1>white Sox. He's a white Sox fan. And and the

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Pope heckles, reverse, heckles a guy and goes they lost.

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love it.

0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love it when the Pope's heckling people.

0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I like, but you could wear that on your sleeve forever.

0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:01.119
<v Speaker 1>The Pope gave me crap man boom.

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:03.600
<v Speaker 1>So what else are we talking about here?

0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 5>What?

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 1>What's this garage door scam we're talking about?

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:06.640
<v Speaker 5>Johnny.

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a real scam involving garage doors if you

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 4>need a repair. And in fact, I just talked to

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 4>this company, PDQ Garage Doors when I heard them heard

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 4>their ads. They're out in Milford and they said, whoa,

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 4>people are impersonating us. They're pretending to be us, Oh wow.

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:28.919
<v Speaker 4>And they're showing up at people's homes around especially Claremont County,

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 4>but it could be anywhere else in the Tri State too,

0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 4>And they're you know, going up to the door. Guy

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 4>pulls up in a white van and says, hey, I'm

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 4>here with PDQ doors and I'm here for your annual

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 4>checkup and adjustment. And it's like what it's like, yeah,

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 4>ninety nine dollars we check and adjust your door.

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.439
<v Speaker 4>So the person's like, okay, PDQ have heard of them,

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 4>or maybe you have they installed your door. And a

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:52.640
<v Speaker 4>guy gets out there kind of opens and shuts the door,

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 4>and he goes, oh, you got a problem here. This

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.120
<v Speaker 4>cable is getting ready to snap. I need to fix

0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:01.360
<v Speaker 4>this immediately. And next thing you know, you know, you're

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 4>out six hundred bucks. I had a lady I interviewed.

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 4>She's had a Bethel and this is amazing, and she says,

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:09.160
<v Speaker 4>guy comes out, he says, you need a spring four

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 4>hundred dollars. She goes, okay, four hundred bucks. Whatever. You

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 4>don't make the garage door work right. He starts taking

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 4>the spring apart. Then he says, oh, wait a minute,

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 4>you need a new table, and then you need the

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 4>new little rollers on the cable. He wouldn't leave until

0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 4>she paid him twelve hundred dollers one thousand, two hundred

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 4>dollars and she doesn't even know who he is. I mean,

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 4>he's just Jimmy Bob and a you know, a rusty

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 4>white van. So PDQ Door is just saying watch out,

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.840
<v Speaker 4>you know. And it may they may be in person

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 4>in other local garage door companies too, But this is

0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 4>as I like to say, it's a scam because you

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 4>get a skim because you got to watch out for this.

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:51.959
<v Speaker 4>You know, they'll show up and say, yeah, I'm here

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 4>to adjust your door, and especially if I well, maybe

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 4>my wife had had an appointment with them, or she's

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 4>home and she goes, well, maybe my husband made an

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 4>appointment with them. So watch out for these scammy garage

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 4>door people. I've got the whole story on WCPO dot

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 4>com and on my John Madley's Facebook page. And this

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 4>woman I feel for She spent twelve hundred dollars, just

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 4>wanted they got to leave. At that point she said

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.679
<v Speaker 4>he was creepy and she said, I just want him

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:20.159
<v Speaker 4>to leave. She to pay some twelve hundred dollars, give

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 4>him a credit card. Yeah, and you can't dispute it

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 4>because because he did the job. He actually did replace

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 4>like everything in her house, you know.

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, they actually actually actually he actually did the

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 2>actual job.

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he did the job. She probably didn't need any

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.919
<v Speaker 4>of that done. It probably just needed to be lubricated,

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 4>so it wasn't so it wasn't noisy. But you know,

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 4>he did twelve hundred dollars worth of work, and you

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 4>dispute it to your credit card and they reach out

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 4>to Jim Bob, and Jim Bob goes, oh, I did

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 4>the drawba but on new cables, so real careful.

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like when they when you get your oil change

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and they're coming around with every filter you didn't even

0:25:56.440 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>know was in the car, going oh, yeah.

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 4>We have to change the passenger air cabin solder. That

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 4>correct sixty dollars okay, And then you go home and

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 4>you look at your handbook and you go, wait a minute,

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 4>this car doesn't have a passenger cabin air filter. That's

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 4>on those fancy Aldis and BMW's. I don't have that

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 4>my Chevy. But yeah, the same sort of thing where

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 4>they add stuff on and it's like, what the hell

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 4>did I just get charged for?

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.880
<v Speaker 2>If Jim Bob is taking credit cards, this this isn't

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 2>going to go real far for him, right, I mean

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 2>you're there's there's some trick.

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And in fact PDQ Door says they're talking to

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 4>the police about it because they're trying to get to

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 4>the bottom of who is running around in these old

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:42.680
<v Speaker 4>rusty vans trying to fixture former employee.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Employe he knows how to fix the garage door. Maybe

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>he is, well, who knows.

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 4>For these creepy people. I'm supposed to be the only

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 4>creepy person out there.

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Looking around the sea for creepiness. You're the uh yeah,

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you're the guy and the fedora and the trench co walking.

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 4>Around going in the sun glasses. John may.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Hamburger lady.

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I'm but I'm allowed to be creepy. So

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, watch your children and it's a living Take care, hey,

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 4>got that, have a great weekend and don't waste your money.

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Thanks John, our good friend, John Matterys w c PO

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 1>and nine News coming up next. Speaking of creepy, We've

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>talked to this fellow a couple of years in a

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:34.240
<v Speaker 1>row around this time of year, and they have now

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>been named I'm Scott the scariest.

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 5>It's the the.

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Haunted houses are all around here, you know, end school,

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>all that, all that stuff. This has been named the

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>scariest haunted house in the world. Just that old slaughterhouse

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>down the old slaughterhouse down in Texas. We got the

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 1>guy who runs it coming up after our news right now,

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred w l W. All right, here

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>it is after Friday, coming up on the Halloween season. Jason,

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>know we are two weeks out. Why don't we do

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 1>got your candy?

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, took out a second mortgage to get that candy

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 2>this year.

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:22.199
<v Speaker 1>How about talked about yeah, how about how expensive that

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>is now brutal? But uh, you know people are going

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>out to the uh, to the haunted houses and all

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Did you ever do that when you were

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a kid. When you were you didn't go to the.

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I grew up on a farm mountain then, as you know, right,

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 2>we didn't do trick or treating. We didn't we didn't

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>do Halloween. The only thing Halloween we'd do is like

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>at school, we'd dress up, right, you know that right

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 2>around the school.

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>No corn maize, nothing like that, none of that. None

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of it. Come on, man, none of its kind of

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>childhood my own corner may we had a corn field. Well, yeah,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I ever wanted to walk through the corn I'd go

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>over or my grandpa's what we lived on his. I

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>mean our house was built on his farm, so I

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 1>can go over to his cornfield and walk around. You

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do that though, because there's these massive

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>banana spiders that set up shop. Why white Grandpa had

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>a tobacco flork. It was scary down in deep down

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>in southeast Kentucky. Yeah, and uh you could run into

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of little critters and underneath those plands.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but these haunted houses and stuff, people pay

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>good money. They you know, King's Islands making a fortune

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>off of that stuff. Blah blah blah on the mall exactly.

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>And there is one that has now been voted the

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>scariest in the world.

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Play spots just be because you and I we've talked

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>about this before.

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and uh it just.

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 2>No thank you for me, But I'm excited for to

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:52.719
<v Speaker 2>hear from our guests about it.

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.959
<v Speaker 1>We have talked to our guests before. He owns the

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>cutting Edge haunted house in Fort Worth. It is Todd,

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Ja James Todd, welcome back to the show.

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh thanks for having me on.

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>So Todd, I mean to be voted best best in

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>the worst scariest in the world. Dude. That's big.

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Man, I don't even know how that happens. Uh,

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 6>but it's an honor for sure. But you know, we're just, yeah,

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 6>we just love to scare people and we try real hard.

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>So what are they what did they judge that on, Todd?

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how many people have heart attacks? And do

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>you have how many ambulance calls you all have or what's.

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh I don't know, I don't know.

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if it's that big.

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 6>But we definitely it's all about our actors and we do, uh,

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 6>we do a Broadway style audition for our actors and

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 6>actresses and you know, they get called back auditions and

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:57.239
<v Speaker 6>we get hundreds of people trying out, and you know,

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 6>we picked the cream of the crowd, people that are fat,

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 6>the big, or just scary looking, and you know, put

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 6>them all together and they make a great team and

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 6>then we have a bunch of fun.

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Todd, The Cutting Edge on an House alone scares me

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 2>because you're in an old slaughter house, right, and so

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 2>the name cutting Edge is that, right? And it kind

0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 2>of set the scene there in Fort Worth for why

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 2>this place is so scary.

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, it's in a one hundred and twelve year

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 6>old meat packing plant that'd been abandoned for a long time.

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 6>And it's in a part of Fort Worth, Texas historically

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 6>known as Hell's Half Acres. So it's kind of got

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 6>some good history to it. And you know, it goes

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 6>that you go up and down, you know, several stories

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.479
<v Speaker 6>and then down into this bank basement and I mean

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 6>the building alone is foreboding and awesome, but you know,

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 6>then you add a bunch of great sets and darkness

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 6>and fog and chainsaws and banana spiders, and you got something.

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>So you're talking about auditioning all these people. We've talked

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>about this before, but how many your cast is? How

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>many people?

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:15.719
<v Speaker 7>Uh?

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 6>We weren't about one hundred people cast, one hundred and

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:22.880
<v Speaker 6>fifty total, And uh yeah, it's it's a big production.

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 6>It's it's it's not unlike a Broadway show that you

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:29.479
<v Speaker 6>would walk through, which would probably get really torn up.

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 6>But uh, I mean, if you if you look at

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 6>our sets and our music and our actors, and we

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 6>have this amazing drum line, if you look up cutting

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 6>edge of drum line, you can kind of see the

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 6>quality of the drum line they're they're one of the

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 6>best around and and you know we sort of mish

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 6>mash all that together with amazing actors and and then

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, we.

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 5>Come up with something that's pretty cool.

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, people coming from all over right to come

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 2>the cutting edge.

0:32:58.120 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 5>They do.

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 6>They like doubts what we're pret pretty nice place to visit.

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 6>And Fort Worth has a lot going on and uh

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 6>and uh you can you can fit the hanted house

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 6>in there and it works out really well.

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Todd James is our guest and uh, Todd, how talk

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>about how you guys came to uh to get this

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>old beat packing place? I mean, just an old abandoned

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>building and you was it known to be I not haunted,

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean, just how did you come across it?

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll just make those short question.

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm from, Uh, I'm here locally. And

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 6>so you drove past that place for years since you know,

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 6>well when I was in college, and it sets on

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 6>top of this hill sort of at the converge and

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 6>so of several of our highways, and it would just

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 6>set there empty.

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>For years and years.

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 6>And uh we were in another place, uh for for

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 6>a bit, and I always thought, man, I'd sure like

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 6>to get that place on top of that hill because

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.959
<v Speaker 6>it's super creepy. And finally, I just kind of met

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 6>an old guy that owned it and talked to him

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 6>for a long time, many years, and I guess I

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 6>wore him down and he sold it and let us

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 6>start scaring people in it because it did work out

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 6>really well for us. It's in, it's in a perfect location,

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 6>and it's on the top of a creepy hill. So

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 6>uh yeah, yeah, just kind of eyebaulted for.

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:15.280
<v Speaker 5>A long time.

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>And you've been doing this with thirty five years, is

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that right?

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 6>Thirty five years to start thirty six season.

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 5>That's that's right?

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>And is it? Is it? Is it a new Is

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>it a different experience every year? So certainly if you're

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a local and you you know, you've been coming every year,

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.439
<v Speaker 1>are you getting scared in a different way every year?

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 6>Oh? Yeah, Yeah, we're always we're constantly changing and innovating,

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 6>and that's kind of why we, you know, named ourselves

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 6>years ago cutting ends. We decided we were going to

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 6>be different than everybody else and do things differently. So

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, every year we're we're you know, we reinvent

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 6>and innovate, and it's uh, I mean, it's not not

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 6>just me and the builders and the special effects guys. Man,

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 6>we take you know, all of our actors have great

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 6>ideas and uh, you know, everybody and all the departments

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 6>will come up and say, hey, you know you have

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 6>thought about this, and we'll be like.

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, we haven't.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 4>Let's do that.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 6>So we got it. Yeah, So you know, we're not probable.

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 5>Enough to think that we all make it.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 6>It takes it takes one hundred and it takes one

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 6>hundred and fifty people and everybody's ideas.

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>To turn this thing out. Sometimes, well it's like Santa's workshop.

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>When do you you guys just on November first, are

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you already plotting next year or when you go about

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>like starting to invent new scenarios and whatnot.

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 6>Oh man, it's when we're walking around now at the show.

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>People are just coming up going, you know, what we

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>should do next year?

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 6>And then all the ideas started, it aren't getting generated.

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 6>But we take a little time down after November first,

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 6>enjoy the holidays, and then you know, by January we're

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 6>back at it. So back at it building and retooling,

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 6>and we're open for a Valentine's Day show, which is

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.959
<v Speaker 6>pretty cool. We do all the Friday the thirteenth in there,

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 6>which is nice, and then we do a summer a

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 6>summer show, so we're always kind of popping this show

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:05.720
<v Speaker 6>out every couple of months.

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>So that was what I was going to ask you.

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 2>This is a this is a full time job, right,

0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean you've made a time job out of a

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 2>haunted house. That's awesome.

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well talk about crazy nich Yeah right, well you

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>can you can check it out and see what the

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>cutting edge Haunted House is all about. Voted the scariest

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.359
<v Speaker 1>in the world, Todd James, thanks so much. You can

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>check it out on YouTube, and man, I'm again, I'm

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>sure once you get that kind of thing scariest in

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the world, like Jason said earlier, you have to have

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>people coming from like Europe and stuff going like I

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>got to see this.

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we get a lot of people that travel, and

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 6>that's you know, that's we're just we're just really blessed

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 6>and can't can't be thankful enough for for the great

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 6>people that work with us.

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:58.720
<v Speaker 5>And we just we have an amazing team.

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.760
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that's at that force, all right, brother

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 1>good stuff. Man's on all your success.

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 6>Thanks so much, appreciate you Havevy Halloween. You folks have

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.320
<v Speaker 6>fine watch out for those treacherous.

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>You never know, Boddy, keep out on the cordfield. You

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about the banana spiders. But see

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>that's I haven't been one of those in a long time,

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>and I think they've just because everything has gotten so much.

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 6>You know.

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I when I was like in high school and stuff,

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we went to a couple of those things. And back then,

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, people could like grab you and stuff. And

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I think finally that well probably because somebody who would

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>grab you would get their lights shut out on them

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.839
<v Speaker 1>with with a punch by a big guy. But there

0:37:57.880 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>was a lawsuit or time. I'm sure there was a

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>couple of lawsuits along the way. Now, no physical content

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.479
<v Speaker 1>of that type of thing, but back in the day.

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 1>But I can't imagine how scary this must be. If

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 1>it's voted the scariest in.

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:17.839
<v Speaker 2>The world, I'll take your word for it. If you're

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 2>into that sort of thing, this sounds like something to

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 2>travel for.

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, look, I'm sure people there are people who

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>do this kind of If there are people who travel

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>all around and go to everything on what's the show Diners,

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Drivers and dives. They you know, retired people, couples will

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>drive all over the country and visit every one of

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>those little diners and you know mom and pop places.

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm just talking to someone the other day has been

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 2>in within the last week about how they love Fort Worth.

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I think I think that whole area is just one

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 2>big concrete suburb, right, But like Fort Worth is unique.

0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 2>And then you got Dallas and that's a I've been

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:02.839
<v Speaker 2>through the airport. That's about the size of it. That's

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 2>all I know about Dallas.

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's big. With that, we check in with traffic

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:12.919
<v Speaker 1>and weather. What is going on? Samstell shaking my head

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>over the fact that you never had a Halloween experience

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>when you were a kid. Nothing, those soaping windows.

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 2>No, you know, it's like it's interesting. I I've come

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:27.440
<v Speaker 2>to enjoy it now. You know, live in Wyoming and

0:39:27.480 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 2>we live in a you know, obviously a neighborhood where

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 2>so many kids come through. And sure, I'm getting to

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>the point now where I don't have to walk out

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 2>with my kids because they're old enough. Like I mean,

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm excited about giving out cant like just

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 2>giving out the candies, sitting there and handing it out

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 2>and seeing all the kids that come up.

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, when I lived in Oakley, we it got

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>to be because you know, obviously you've got to know

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody who lives around you and stuff. And everybody was

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>was young younger, and by that, I mean they were

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>just starting families and stuff. So they're coming around with

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>their three four year olds and uh and stuff, and

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>but they know you. And so the guys were like

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.359
<v Speaker 1>and dev and I'd be sitting there. I was made

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>up a big pot of chili on Halloween and we

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>would sit there on the front porch, eat chili and

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 1>drink beers and whatnot. Well, then people started, the dads

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>especially would stop by the house because they knew. They

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 1>were like, hey, you go, they know I'd give them

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>a beer in other words, a few road pops and uh,

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that's debuts. Did that was her duty. She took the

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>kids out. Yeah, I think I did it one year

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>when they were little. I walked around with her because

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that's when the kid and and anybody with kids know

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:57.759
<v Speaker 1>its that it doesn't know a three year old. It

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>does them no good to get a giant bag of candy.

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:03.439
<v Speaker 1>So you take them out to like five or six

0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>houses and get them a couple of candy bars. They're

0:41:06.160 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna go yes, but it's when they get to be

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>about ten eleven that they want to be out.

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:12.399
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>If that thing starts at six o'clock and last until eight,

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 1>they're out at five point fifty nine point five nine yes,

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 1>and back at you know, seven fifty nine nine nine yes,

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>and they've gotten everything they can. And I told that

0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 1>story before there a bunch of boys went out, they

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:38.000
<v Speaker 1>were probably about eleven twelve, and they took an exchange

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>student from Italy out with them, and the kid had

0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>never experienced a trigger treat. So I'm kind of hanging

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.800
<v Speaker 1>back and watching what's going on. They're swapping cant you

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.919
<v Speaker 1>know how you do. I'll give you this recing cap

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>for you're yeah, for your payday or whatever, and so

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.919
<v Speaker 1>this poor kid, I'm watching it and they're like going, hey,

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I think his name is Luca, Hey, Luca, I'll give

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 1>you a I'll give you a what this piece of

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>candy corn for your pack of recent your recent cup there,

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 1>My kid's like okay. And that lasted for about three minutes.

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I finally walked over to go guys, he to.

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Have none of my wife correct the full sized Snickers bar.

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Coming up. We're gonna be talking to our good friend

0:42:25.480 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>John Risby, the patent professor. This involves Ohio State and Michigan.

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>This should be good after the news right now News

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Radio seven hundred WLW.

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm here at Dancing the Robots with my good

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>friend Jason Williams, who is in for Rocky today. Rock

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>will be back on Monday. Rocket is a working game

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>in James Madison tomorrow, James Madison old Dominion. I had

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>to ask you to get more Virginia than that. Well,

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>that's when I asked him. I was like, Buddy, I

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you. I've always heard of James Madison, but

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't have any I had no idea where it's at,

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and he told me in the mountains of Virginia. So

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>in uh, in other news, this was, uh, look love me,

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>respect me. Some Ohio State Buckeyes. But the Ohio State

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>needs to kind of slow the roll a little bit.

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 5>Man.

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 1>They're a little tight assed, if you know what I

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:36.480
<v Speaker 1>mean they are? Did you, well, you saw this story

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to be talking about here, Ohio University

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>is suing a local bar in ann Arbor because they

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 1>have a beer out called buck Eye Tears. Now, why

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>let's talk to our good friend John Risby, the patent

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>professor about it. Now, John, are we over assessing the

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>fact that maybe Ohio State needs to just slow their

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>role and have a laugh about this? But man, these

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>guys are really protective of that trademark.

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:20.919
<v Speaker 8>They are, right, Hey, John, Let's put you on hold

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 8>for a second and see if we can get a

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 8>better connection with you.

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 1>And but yeah, these uh, this is a local bar

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:31.680
<v Speaker 1>in ann Arbor. They've been selling this beer for a

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>couple of years and Ohio State has taking them to

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>court over it. It's actually pretty good. I mean, that's

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.879
<v Speaker 1>a pretty cool name and very very creative. I think

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:41.439
<v Speaker 1>to name a beer Buckeye Tears if you're an ann

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Arbor bar, sports bar, look at this is a storied rivalry.

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And let's get back to John. Hey, hey, John, So anyway,

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.360
<v Speaker 1>it's good to have you back now. But talk about

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 1>how it seems petty to me.

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 9>Well, they got media or try to get mark for

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 9>the word. And I know you, uh Ohio and were accessful,

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 9>so you know, okay for.

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:21.240
<v Speaker 5>Dollars.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Let's uh hey, John, let's put you on hold again there,

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and uh see if we can't get that problem corrected.

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 1>But haven't. Isn't All State kind of known for stuff

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>like them? The whole the.

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Wan there something kind of nuts and you know colleges

0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 2>in general, especially big football schools, and you know, they're

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 2>very very corporate about this stuff and very protective of

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 2>their brand. Well even sold here locally, was it you see?

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know there was some high school or youths.

0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, maybe in middle school and Tennessee that was

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 2>using like the seat Paul or a version of the

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 2>sea Paul. But this has been within the last year

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 2>year and a half I think. And they they went,

0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 2>they went hard, hard in the paint. See that's what

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 2>the thing I was thinking about. I couldn't remember what

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 2>it was, but it was a little school down in

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>uh intention. They have every right too, I mean, you know,

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 2>trademark and you got to protect the brand. And I'm

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 2>sure the mentality is all right, you let that one

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 2>slide and then the next thing, you know, you got

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:32.919
<v Speaker 2>twenty you got twenty different uh middle schools or high

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 2>schools or youth sports programs wanting to use that sea

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:38.680
<v Speaker 2>poul and in the same thing. Yeah, this one to

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 2>me is a little because it's a word, you know

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like you have you have a trademark

0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:47.839
<v Speaker 2>on the word buckeye. Well, the state of Ohio, whether

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:51.360
<v Speaker 2>you like Ohio state or not, is the Buckeye state.

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Like, well, that's that's kind of the point. It's like

0:46:56.560 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>suing I don't know, suing the Commonwealth and Commonwealth Kentucky

0:47:03.080 --> 0:47:06.879
<v Speaker 1>because they call themselves commonwealth and you know you're from

0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like Ireland or something whatever the case might. Right, But

0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>let's get back to John Risby. Hey, John, I think

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>we have you this time. Yes, hopefully that much better.

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So, So, John, is it way were we started to

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 1>talk about? There is this petty or do you really

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of defend your brand? Uh, regardless of

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>how petty it seems.

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, well you have to under trademark law because if

0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 9>you don't, the trademark could be seen as as abandoned

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 9>and uhlat all kinds of.

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 4>So we do have to.

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 9>Uh So they have no choice, but they do have

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 9>a choice on what they what they filed for trademarks on.

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 9>They've received a lot of pushback on some of the

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 9>trademarks they filed for, but in this case, that's not filing.

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 9>They just believe that this mark is diluting their brain

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 9>and perhaps, you know, because it's alcohol, they may not

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 9>want an associate of Buckeye with alcohol, and it's like

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 9>that's part of That's one of the arguments that they

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 9>make is that it's because it's the university they do

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.800
<v Speaker 9>not want that association, So that could.

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 5>Be part of it.

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 9>But it's a pretty good defense I think that the

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 9>bar has and that's parody. The ultimate test and trademark

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 9>case is consumer confusion, and their argument is nobody would

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:44.439
<v Speaker 9>legitimately think that this university is going to be making

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 9>fun of themselves by selling this.

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 5>Beer, so they're not.

0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 9>People are going to see through this and see it

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 9>as a play on words and as a joke, not

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 9>take it as that series. That's their argument that they

0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 9>should be parody and parodies sends success and a lot

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 9>of trademark cases in the past as a defense.

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, and we're talking to John Risby, the patent professor,

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and John one of the things that Jason and I

0:49:10.800 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>were talking about earlier is, I mean the Ohio Ohio

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>is the Buckeye State, so that's the that's the official

0:49:20.680 --> 0:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of nickname of the state. Not necessarily they are

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the Ohio State buck Guys, of course, but Ohio. But

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Ohio is the Buckeye State, and that's the reason they

0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>are named the buck Guys, not the other way around.

0:49:33.440 --> 0:49:36.319
<v Speaker 9>It is and the buck eye is and it's named

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 9>after a tree. And there's thousands and thousands of businesses

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:44.359
<v Speaker 9>with buck Eye. But that's uh, that's uh defenses as well,

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 9>which I think is a strong defense. But I think

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 9>the strong that that consumers are not.

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 5>And that it's a parody.

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 9>A dog toy that sold it bad. And they were

0:49:58.800 --> 0:49:59.839
<v Speaker 9>sued by Jack Dan.

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:00.400
<v Speaker 5>For the.

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 9>Trademarket. The court held that in that case, the court

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 9>held that the brain used consumers. But there's other cases

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:13.800
<v Speaker 9>where the court said that consumers are going to know

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 9>that and are not going to take one product with another.

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:25.879
<v Speaker 9>Another case, the company or face the quoting line. There

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:29.360
<v Speaker 9>was a student that created a frank called South but

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 9>and Uh there was sued for infringement. The court the

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 9>Kicks actually settled, so we don't know how the court

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 9>would have decided, but again, that would be a really

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 9>strong argument. Nobody is going to the door fake has

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 9>creaked separate qulothing line.

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:48.200
<v Speaker 5>Out five.

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 9>So the case is that the another case for Charbucks

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 9>coffee or upheld that uh of the coffee Uh Rose

0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:02.680
<v Speaker 9>could there was a play on Starbucks dark ross that

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 9>we want to burn. The court allowed the mark or

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 9>sorry rejected. Starbucks is super claiming that consumers were not

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:18.760
<v Speaker 9>so uh, you know, we stand to see what ultimately

0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 9>happened here. But there's going to be settlement. Uh that's

0:51:23.200 --> 0:51:28.239
<v Speaker 9>for US intellectual property attorney. Those are discouraging because now

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 9>we don't know how courts are going to decide if

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 9>it's settled. You really don't have present. But if it's

0:51:34.520 --> 0:51:37.319
<v Speaker 9>a small local bar, it is known as brown Jug.

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:47.120
<v Speaker 9>Uh bow out, take and stop the buck up? Uh right,

0:51:47.280 --> 0:51:49.240
<v Speaker 9>and then we'll court were.

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:53.919
<v Speaker 1>Well and and uh and thank you John. We're again

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:58.799
<v Speaker 1>having some technical difficulties here. We really appreciate it. As always,

0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 1>people want to find out or they can go to

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>the patent professor dot com. And all as far as

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned, all these folks have done is give this

0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the little bar, the Brown Jug five billion dollars worth

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:17.359
<v Speaker 1>of free advertising. You know, I say cheers, the buck

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Eye Tears and the Brown jug I want to I'm gonna,

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to seek out a buck Eye Tears now,

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:30.960
<v Speaker 1>just to satisfy my own curiosity and your palette and

0:52:31.120 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 1>my palette. With that, we check in with traffic and weather.

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:40.279
<v Speaker 1>What is going on? Back on the Eddie and Rocky Show,

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Rock out today, He'll be back on Monday. I'm working

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:45.760
<v Speaker 1>with the White good Friend Jason Williams from the Inquirer

0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati dot com. And you were there last night, Jace,

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:56.359
<v Speaker 1>did you experience the new Joe Flacco emo?

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Look the what.

0:53:01.719 --> 0:53:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I saw it. I'm just I'm actually reading Cincinnati dot

0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:10.320
<v Speaker 1>com right now. We're just scrolling through there, and I

0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:14.480
<v Speaker 1>saw him last night, and I was like, what looks

0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>what looks there's sort a picture of it. What what

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>looks different about He's just got his hairs all kind

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:24.960
<v Speaker 1>of he looks all Joe Joe Burrow, Joe Yeah, Joe Burrows,

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow. Yeah, Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah I did.

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, they were, Yeah, you can't see him

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:33.600
<v Speaker 2>too well from up the press box other than just

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 2>you just see him down on the sideline. Yeah, But

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:38.680
<v Speaker 2>then the the photos and the video, You're like, and

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:41.360
<v Speaker 2>I know people on Twitter are like, he looks depressed

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:43.920
<v Speaker 2>and his hair was all disheveled, and.

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what I'm saying. If you have to look up,

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you can look up the pictures obviously, and uh, he

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:54.080
<v Speaker 1>just you know, it was always kind of styled and

0:53:54.239 --> 0:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>slicked back a little bit and stuff like that. Now

0:53:56.800 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 1>he just kind of it's kind of wild. He looks

0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like he's in uh you know, like I said, a

0:54:02.600 --> 0:54:05.920
<v Speaker 1>boy band, right that, or he's.

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Just been playing video games in his basement for the

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:12.320
<v Speaker 2>last Yeah, it just looks like for the last three months.

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:14.040
<v Speaker 2>And has it come out to get a haircut or

0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 2>do anything?

0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Now, let me ask you because we talked earlier with

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Richard Skinner and we're gonna be talking to Pat Running

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>from the inquiry, Yeah, coming up. But when we were

0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:31.160
<v Speaker 1>talking to Skinny earlier, we talked about the possibility of Okay,

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:34.719
<v Speaker 1>let's say Flacco goes on a real role here and uh,

0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and these guys actually get back into contention by the

0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:44.279
<v Speaker 1>middle of December. But it's if he do you bring

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 1>back Burrow or do you let him Flacco goes stay

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.239
<v Speaker 1>on his role. But I think I know every they

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:53.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously answer is to bring back Burrow. But that was

0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:56.600
<v Speaker 1>what Skinny said. Yeah, but you and I talked about

0:54:56.640 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the fact that hey, if it's if it's if he

0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>had asked, you know, and and he's and Flacco's doing

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:07.680
<v Speaker 1>well whatever, you know, he's two games over five hundred,

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever case might be coming up here. Do you just

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:14.920
<v Speaker 1>continue to play out the season with him or do

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you bring bro back? I, honestly, goodness don't know, because

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I I and here's my answer to this. This is

0:55:25.160 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a punt.

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:28.120
<v Speaker 2>This is a punt better than Ryan Ricco can punt.

0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Let's maybe let's give a couple of games here, Let's

0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:34.279
<v Speaker 2>let's let's see how it goes. You see if they

0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:36.320
<v Speaker 2>can get the five hundred and then maybe get above

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:37.359
<v Speaker 2>five hundred.

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:37.479
<v Speaker 6>And then.

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:40.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's see all place from there. We've got

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:46.439
<v Speaker 1>a place from there. Well, we got the Jets suck.

0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:48.480
<v Speaker 10>Now.

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 1>It seems to me the Bears have been playing pretty

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:55.759
<v Speaker 1>well lately. Yeah, four and two. Yeah, So then and

0:55:55.880 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>then it's the bye week. But then you're coming back,

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:02.960
<v Speaker 1>you and it's Steelers Ravens blah blah blah, and uh

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and on down the road. So that's when the true

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 1>test is going to come. Yes, you know you look

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:10.839
<v Speaker 1>at the schedule. Yeah, you're right.

0:56:10.920 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 2>The Jets, all of the Jets, like they've had some

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 2>really close games and you're kind of like the it's

0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 2>the NFL, and it's like it feels like that could

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:23.120
<v Speaker 2>be a little dangerous one.

0:56:23.200 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And you know, obviously whatever, the Jets have a game

0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 1>this Sunday.

0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 2>When when you're the Bengals, nothing's a gimmy with that

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:36.400
<v Speaker 2>defense obviously, and you know, whether it's the Jets, but

0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:43.600
<v Speaker 2>to play they play the Panthers this weekend, who are better? Yeah, yeah,

0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 2>you want to sit here and say, oh they oh

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 2>w and six Jets, like all right, okay, they're going

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 2>to get to five.

0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Formatic.

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:52.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's the NFL and you're the Bengals with

0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.640
<v Speaker 2>that defense, like I you know, you can never get

0:56:55.800 --> 0:56:59.960
<v Speaker 2>over confident. Now if I don't know, Joe Burrow was

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 2>here and this is a home game and they're kind

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.800
<v Speaker 2>of doing their usual kick things in the gear about

0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 2>this time, like all right, yeah, we marked that one

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 2>down as a surefire win.

0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, and we also talked earlier last night. The player

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 1>who didn't have a good night was Jake Browning. Come

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 1>out there and see what I mean, this forty year

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>old guy with the quality of receivers that he has

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:32.720
<v Speaker 1>on the button all night long, he rows for over

0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:35.560
<v Speaker 1>three forty that's a big night. I don't give a

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:37.480
<v Speaker 1>damn who you are at quarterback.

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:42.439
<v Speaker 2>It certainly, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's the game,

0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:47.080
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure Jake Browning understands that, but it probably

0:57:47.320 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 2>has to make him feel like where does he go

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 2>from here? You know, because two years ago he's thinking

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:55.120
<v Speaker 2>like maybe I could be a starting quarterback in this league.

0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, remember he really turned it up Therelyn Burrow

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:01.919
<v Speaker 2>got hurt in Baltimore. But now like he's probably gone

0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 2>from that to now thinking like, am I even going

0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 2>to be able to, you know, stick in this league

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.959
<v Speaker 2>as even a backup quarterback or maybe even a number

0:58:11.040 --> 0:58:12.600
<v Speaker 2>three guy on a squad.

0:58:12.680 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, carrying the clipboard guy?

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:15.440
<v Speaker 7>Uh?

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 1>With that, we check in with the News News Radio

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 1>seven hundred w l W after the it's it's so

0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>it's so weird to come into work on a Friday

0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:30.600
<v Speaker 1>after a Bengals game last night, Yeah, it is.

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm pretty tired. I didn't get out of

0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 2>a didn't get home to about two thirty. Listen to

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Austin on the way home. I click it on. I'm like,

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:43.320
<v Speaker 2>there's Austin talking to Dick from Dayton. He was talking

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 2>from Dayton, and I was like, man, like, write at

0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 2>like two ten to twelve.

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I like, what you want to be doing at two

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:54.520
<v Speaker 1>o'clock on a Friday morning. And I bet you this

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 1>guy was probably spending some late hours too, Yes he was.

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 1>He We all walked out of the stadium to get

0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 1>other bad Brennan from the Inquire Cincinnati dot Com. So, Pat,

0:59:06.120 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've been talking on and off obviously about

0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the game today. Your thoughts on what you saw last night?

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 1>This team looks to be re energized.

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:20.479
<v Speaker 5>I completely agree, and thanks for having me on first

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:27.560
<v Speaker 5>of all, but I saw what I saw last night

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 5>was really.

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:35.520
<v Speaker 7>Obviously mostly on offense, was really a carryover from what

0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 7>we saw in the second half from the Bengals at

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 7>lambeau Field earlier this week on Sunday, and I thought,

0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 7>the best case scenario, on a short week, forty year

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 7>old Joe Flacco might be able to pick up where

0:59:54.800 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 7>he left off on Sunday, which was still, you know,

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:04.600
<v Speaker 7>clearly not doing anything special but just being efficient and

1:00:04.720 --> 1:00:07.960
<v Speaker 7>effective in the offense. Well, it looks like on top

1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:10.680
<v Speaker 7>of taking care of his body, which is gonna be

1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:12.000
<v Speaker 7>I would think the.

1:00:12.080 --> 1:00:17.080
<v Speaker 5>Main concern for someone his age, he was able. It

1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 5>looked like they were able to, you know, take a.

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:26.400
<v Speaker 7>Few steps forward with the game planning and look, I

1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:30.400
<v Speaker 7>mean I saw a stat last night that Joe Flacco

1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:34.480
<v Speaker 7>through had a three touchdown game against the Steelers for

1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:37.160
<v Speaker 7>the first time since twenty eleven.

1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:43.120
<v Speaker 7>I mean that's reaching back into I mean, that's partly

1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:45.920
<v Speaker 7>a commentary on how old this guy is and how

1:00:46.000 --> 1:00:48.800
<v Speaker 7>long he's been around in the league, which is remarkable,

1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:51.920
<v Speaker 7>But that's reaching back into vintage.

1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Joe Flacco territory, you know.

1:00:56.040 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 4>So it was a.

1:00:57.000 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 5>Continuation of what we saw at Green Bay.

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:06.040
<v Speaker 7>That was not an anomaly, and that should be at

1:01:06.080 --> 1:01:09.680
<v Speaker 7>the very least, that should be interesting and intriguing for

1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:10.880
<v Speaker 7>this team going forward.

1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Guys, Yeah, Pat, what do you make of the locker

1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:17.720
<v Speaker 2>room and how the locker room has uh, you know,

1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:21.560
<v Speaker 2>just sort of their viewpoint on on the move of

1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacco And I know what we saw on the

1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:25.960
<v Speaker 2>field last night, but are you are you sensing that

1:01:26.080 --> 1:01:31.720
<v Speaker 2>that locker room feels re energized and that you know, like, hey,

1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:34.600
<v Speaker 2>the front office went out and did something they rarely

1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:37.320
<v Speaker 2>do season trade. Are you are you sensing that you're

1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:40.000
<v Speaker 2>picking that up? You're in that open locker room, you

1:01:40.080 --> 1:01:42.880
<v Speaker 2>know during the week, you and Kelsey Conway from the

1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:44.920
<v Speaker 2>so so, Yeah, what do you make of that?

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:49.160
<v Speaker 5>Well, you know a couple of things in Green Bay.

1:01:49.520 --> 1:01:52.439
<v Speaker 7>Everyone said and did the right things in the locker

1:01:52.520 --> 1:01:53.480
<v Speaker 7>room after a loss.

1:01:53.640 --> 1:01:58.800
<v Speaker 5>You know, you cannot be jumping for joy about signs

1:01:58.840 --> 1:01:59.720
<v Speaker 5>of promise in.

1:02:00.880 --> 1:02:06.200
<v Speaker 10>So everyone everyone looked and you know, everyone looked like

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:08.160
<v Speaker 10>they were supposed to after a loss and said the

1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:12.280
<v Speaker 10>things you say after a loss, you know, professional professional

1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:15.080
<v Speaker 10>ball players doing their thing after defeat.

1:02:15.520 --> 1:02:22.040
<v Speaker 7>But I noticed a quiet, subdued but a quiet confidence

1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:26.640
<v Speaker 7>and kind of a knowledge that like, hey, what what

1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:29.640
<v Speaker 7>Joe Flacco got going there late in the first half

1:02:29.760 --> 1:02:31.960
<v Speaker 7>and throughout the second half.

1:02:33.320 --> 1:02:37.520
<v Speaker 5>Was real, and we believe in it, and we're impressed

1:02:37.560 --> 1:02:42.960
<v Speaker 5>by it, and we think this has staying power.

1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:46.240
<v Speaker 7>That's what I got from the locker room at Lambeau.

1:02:46.920 --> 1:02:49.080
<v Speaker 7>And actually, by the time we got in the locker

1:02:49.160 --> 1:02:50.880
<v Speaker 7>room last night, I a little disappointed.

1:02:50.960 --> 1:02:53.720
<v Speaker 5>A bunch of the guys that jetted off for the night.

1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:58.080
<v Speaker 7>Obviously we spoke to the principles you Jamar Chases and

1:02:58.200 --> 1:03:01.000
<v Speaker 7>Joe Flacco himself, but a lot of the other guys

1:03:01.080 --> 1:03:05.439
<v Speaker 7>had taken off, but it was after midnight at that point.

1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:14.040
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I think there Joe Flacco has probably walked

1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:16.240
<v Speaker 5>in with a certain amount of respect being a former

1:03:16.320 --> 1:03:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Super Bowl MVP.

1:03:19.400 --> 1:03:25.040
<v Speaker 7>But I think Flacco has really grabbed the attention of

1:03:25.560 --> 1:03:28.720
<v Speaker 7>what is a comparatively young locker room, you know, compared

1:03:28.800 --> 1:03:29.080
<v Speaker 7>to him.

1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:31.680
<v Speaker 5>I think they believe in this guy. I think they

1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:32.760
<v Speaker 5>believe in him a whole lot.

1:03:35.200 --> 1:03:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what I was going to ask you that, Pat,

1:03:38.280 --> 1:03:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you get the impression the that the look the

1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:45.320
<v Speaker 1>guy's career speaks for himself. He's a future Hall of Famer,

1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:48.160
<v Speaker 1>There's no question about that. I mean, is it a

1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:51.920
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of I don't know, it's not awe Is

1:03:51.960 --> 1:03:53.800
<v Speaker 1>that too strong of a word. I mean, are they

1:03:54.000 --> 1:03:59.080
<v Speaker 1>just like, okay, cool, we and no disrespect to Jake Browning,

1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:02.600
<v Speaker 1>but you got this guy coming in his career, as

1:04:02.640 --> 1:04:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I said, speaks for himself. So you gotta go. Okay, look,

1:04:06.400 --> 1:04:09.680
<v Speaker 1>now we're doing something. We're back on track to maybe

1:04:09.840 --> 1:04:12.000
<v Speaker 1>turn this thing around you get that impression.

1:04:12.160 --> 1:04:16.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know. Actually, I don't think awe is too

1:04:16.680 --> 1:04:17.479
<v Speaker 5>strong of a word.

1:04:18.320 --> 1:04:22.640
<v Speaker 7>Jamar Chase used the word aw to describe his reaction

1:04:22.960 --> 1:04:25.919
<v Speaker 7>to the Browns making the trade.

1:04:26.080 --> 1:04:26.880
<v Speaker 5>Within the division.

1:04:27.080 --> 1:04:29.160
<v Speaker 7>Now, obviously that's a little bit of a different subject

1:04:29.200 --> 1:04:33.160
<v Speaker 7>because it's not talking about Flacco's performances themselves.

1:04:33.640 --> 1:04:36.720
<v Speaker 5>But awe is a word that's in the conversation for sure, Eddie.

1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:43.080
<v Speaker 7>And I think, I mean, I don't. Maybe these guys

1:04:43.120 --> 1:04:45.960
<v Speaker 7>didn't know what to expect. Obviously there was a general

1:04:46.000 --> 1:04:48.160
<v Speaker 7>awareness of the run he went on with Cleveland a

1:04:48.200 --> 1:04:50.840
<v Speaker 7>couple of years ago, but can he really do it

1:04:50.920 --> 1:04:54.280
<v Speaker 7>again at age forty. I think what has happened is

1:04:54.960 --> 1:04:59.080
<v Speaker 7>everyone is looking at Joe Flacco, the way he takes

1:04:59.160 --> 1:05:01.240
<v Speaker 7>care of his body, the way he handles his business,

1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:07.160
<v Speaker 7>his appreciation for this moment in his career, and I

1:05:07.240 --> 1:05:09.920
<v Speaker 7>think all these guys are realizing, Hey, this guy can

1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:11.320
<v Speaker 7>still make me better.

1:05:12.040 --> 1:05:12.680
<v Speaker 6>This guy.

1:05:14.520 --> 1:05:16.040
<v Speaker 5>I can learn something from this guy.

1:05:16.160 --> 1:05:20.960
<v Speaker 7>And frankly, I hope Joe Burrow is taking at least

1:05:21.000 --> 1:05:23.280
<v Speaker 7>a few notes. No one's saying, you know, this guy's

1:05:23.320 --> 1:05:26.640
<v Speaker 7>not going to supplant Joe Burrow long term and anything

1:05:26.760 --> 1:05:30.240
<v Speaker 7>crazy like that. But there's a lot a lot of

1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:33.160
<v Speaker 7>players in that locker room can glean from this guy.

1:05:33.320 --> 1:05:34.600
<v Speaker 5>So I think they're impressed.

1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:38.680
<v Speaker 7>I think they are comfortable and confident with Joe Flacco

1:05:38.880 --> 1:05:44.440
<v Speaker 7>leading this team at the quarterback position. And I go

1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:49.040
<v Speaker 7>back to a kind of a baseball thing at the

1:05:49.120 --> 1:05:52.760
<v Speaker 7>trade deadline, when a GM makes a move or you know,

1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:56.240
<v Speaker 7>baseball operations, people make a move for a team that

1:05:56.360 --> 1:05:59.880
<v Speaker 7>can energize a locker room, or if you're selling it

1:06:00.040 --> 1:06:02.720
<v Speaker 7>the trade deadline or you know, offloading.

1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:05.280
<v Speaker 5>Guys, I can really bring a locker room down.

1:06:05.840 --> 1:06:10.000
<v Speaker 7>I think just the act of making the trade for

1:06:10.120 --> 1:06:15.560
<v Speaker 7>an experienced veteran quarterback by Duke Tobin and company, I

1:06:15.800 --> 1:06:18.040
<v Speaker 7>think that may have had the same kind of effect.

1:06:18.120 --> 1:06:21.400
<v Speaker 7>It was like saying, hey, we recognize this isn't going

1:06:21.520 --> 1:06:23.400
<v Speaker 7>as well as we thought it would with Jake Browning,

1:06:23.400 --> 1:06:26.120
<v Speaker 7>even though he had good history here. We're gonna make

1:06:26.160 --> 1:06:29.360
<v Speaker 7>a change. This season is not a throwaway. And I

1:06:29.760 --> 1:06:32.000
<v Speaker 7>think they pulled it off in time to where this

1:06:32.160 --> 1:06:32.960
<v Speaker 7>season doesn't have.

1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.040
<v Speaker 5>To be a throwaway. They're up against it.

1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:39.680
<v Speaker 7>They're three and four long road back to really truly, truly,

1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:42.760
<v Speaker 7>truly get in contention, but they're right there in the

1:06:42.840 --> 1:06:45.880
<v Speaker 7>division as we sit today, As we sit here today, and.

1:06:46.360 --> 1:06:48.440
<v Speaker 5>There's a lot to be there's a lot to be

1:06:48.560 --> 1:06:50.520
<v Speaker 5>excited about here. I think I really do.

1:06:51.680 --> 1:06:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the way the guys, the way I see this

1:06:53.920 --> 1:06:57.360
<v Speaker 2>as like savor the moment, Like I mean, that was

1:06:57.520 --> 1:07:01.200
<v Speaker 2>just an incredible game when you you think about that,

1:07:01.480 --> 1:07:05.360
<v Speaker 2>that moment itself, the moment of Joe Flacco forty years

1:07:05.400 --> 1:07:08.400
<v Speaker 2>old and the story of that, then the moment of

1:07:08.720 --> 1:07:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the fact that the Bengals went out and traded for

1:07:11.440 --> 1:07:11.880
<v Speaker 2>this guy.

1:07:12.640 --> 1:07:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And I know we all that's what we do.

1:07:14.720 --> 1:07:16.080
<v Speaker 2>We want to sit here and say, oh, can this

1:07:16.160 --> 1:07:17.680
<v Speaker 2>guy get it? Can this guy get the Bengals to

1:07:17.720 --> 1:07:18.200
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs?

1:07:18.240 --> 1:07:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Can he? Can he win the next you know, three

1:07:20.320 --> 1:07:20.960
<v Speaker 1>games in a row?

1:07:21.080 --> 1:07:21.720
<v Speaker 4>Can he do? You know?

1:07:21.840 --> 1:07:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Can can he bridge the gap to Joe Burrow and

1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:25.680
<v Speaker 2>then they can go to the you know, maybe get

1:07:25.720 --> 1:07:26.560
<v Speaker 2>on that Super Bowl run?

1:07:26.600 --> 1:07:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And I know that's you know,

1:07:30.120 --> 1:07:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that's fans, that that's media, that's what we all want

1:07:32.560 --> 1:07:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to talk about. But I don't know, man, Like you

1:07:35.640 --> 1:07:37.840
<v Speaker 1>sit here and you think about last night, like, let's

1:07:37.960 --> 1:07:41.240
<v Speaker 1>just sort of savor this for the weekend, right and

1:07:41.600 --> 1:07:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the fact that that was and even on the other

1:07:44.200 --> 1:07:47.160
<v Speaker 1>side of the ball too, you know, Aaron Rodgers over

1:07:47.280 --> 1:07:51.320
<v Speaker 1>forty years old, and that was just we don't we don't.

1:07:51.440 --> 1:07:52.640
<v Speaker 1>We don't get to see that a lot.

1:07:52.800 --> 1:07:54.960
<v Speaker 2>We don't get to see just I mean, I know,

1:07:55.240 --> 1:07:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I know we did see some we saw some high

1:07:57.440 --> 1:07:59.800
<v Speaker 2>scoring games here last year. But the fact that the

1:08:00.000 --> 1:08:03.240
<v Speaker 2>Angles can walk out with the win and it allows

1:08:03.360 --> 1:08:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Bengals fans and Zach Taylor said, you know, you know,

1:08:06.920 --> 1:08:09.600
<v Speaker 2>we want guys, we want fans back in the stands.

1:08:09.880 --> 1:08:12.240
<v Speaker 2>We want to give them hope. And I'm paraphrasing him,

1:08:12.280 --> 1:08:15.200
<v Speaker 2>but just all that stuff just in the moment of

1:08:15.320 --> 1:08:18.639
<v Speaker 2>right now, and you know, not getting too far ahead

1:08:18.680 --> 1:08:21.599
<v Speaker 2>of looking at you know, can they can they beat

1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore twice? Can they you know, go into Buffalo and win?

1:08:24.880 --> 1:08:28.000
<v Speaker 2>And can Joe Flacco do that? And you know, you know,

1:08:28.120 --> 1:08:29.800
<v Speaker 2>this is just fun right now in the moment.

1:08:30.000 --> 1:08:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Sure, we're talking to Pat Brennan from The Inquirer Cincinnati

1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:38.920
<v Speaker 1>dot com and Pat, let's put on your other hat

1:08:40.240 --> 1:08:44.479
<v Speaker 1>FC tomorrow tomorrow night here in in town. How are

1:08:44.479 --> 1:08:46.559
<v Speaker 1>we looking what's going on with the playoffs and stuff?

1:08:47.920 --> 1:08:51.840
<v Speaker 7>Oh, uh, the well, FC Cincinnati. Look, they've had a

1:08:54.360 --> 1:09:01.640
<v Speaker 7>about another really strong regular season. There playoff position is

1:09:01.800 --> 1:09:04.760
<v Speaker 7>more or less set. They could end up finishing and

1:09:05.320 --> 1:09:08.280
<v Speaker 7>I think second or third near the top of the

1:09:08.320 --> 1:09:11.800
<v Speaker 7>Eastern Conference. They're a top contender in MLS and in

1:09:11.920 --> 1:09:18.000
<v Speaker 7>the East. And tomorrow there now the playoff field is set,

1:09:18.479 --> 1:09:19.800
<v Speaker 7>the final seedings are not.

1:09:20.680 --> 1:09:22.679
<v Speaker 5>So all the games will go off.

1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:27.400
<v Speaker 7>Tomorrow at the same time and we'll learn at about

1:09:27.680 --> 1:09:30.639
<v Speaker 7>the same time, you know, about two hours after kickoff

1:09:30.680 --> 1:09:36.080
<v Speaker 7>tomorrow when or who who I should say FC Cincinnati

1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:37.559
<v Speaker 7>will face in the first round.

1:09:37.640 --> 1:09:40.760
<v Speaker 5>And after they kind of crashed out of the playoffs.

1:09:40.400 --> 1:09:44.000
<v Speaker 7>In the first round last year, this has showed me

1:09:44.120 --> 1:09:47.880
<v Speaker 7>time for f C Cincinnati. You know, they went for

1:09:48.000 --> 1:09:51.439
<v Speaker 7>the regular season championship again this year, had a good

1:09:51.560 --> 1:09:53.280
<v Speaker 7>run at it fell short.

1:09:54.560 --> 1:09:59.360
<v Speaker 5>You know, I think they've flushed that and now it's

1:09:59.479 --> 1:10:00.599
<v Speaker 5>time to go on a run.

1:10:00.760 --> 1:10:04.760
<v Speaker 7>This team spends a lot of money comparatively speaking in

1:10:04.840 --> 1:10:09.080
<v Speaker 7>it's peer group. It's one of the most ambitious teams

1:10:09.120 --> 1:10:12.320
<v Speaker 7>in an MLS and with that, with the investment that

1:10:12.439 --> 1:10:15.479
<v Speaker 7>comes with that, you need performance in the playoffs, so

1:10:16.200 --> 1:10:19.919
<v Speaker 7>they'll know what the what the road through the playoffs

1:10:20.000 --> 1:10:25.240
<v Speaker 7>looks like by tomorrow night, and I'll.

1:10:25.120 --> 1:10:28.879
<v Speaker 5>Be really interested to see, with everything they've.

1:10:28.800 --> 1:10:32.479
<v Speaker 7>Done to make this team to try to achieve greatness

1:10:32.600 --> 1:10:35.840
<v Speaker 7>with the personnel, if they can actually put it together,

1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:40.400
<v Speaker 7>because I think there was some a lot of disappointment

1:10:40.600 --> 1:10:44.320
<v Speaker 7>in the fan base last year with that early playoff exit.

1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:48.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, with that, Pat Brennan, we will let you go, buddy,

1:10:49.080 --> 1:10:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much.

1:10:50.720 --> 1:10:52.240
<v Speaker 5>Okay, thanks for having me, Guys.

1:10:54.320 --> 1:10:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Brennan from the Inquirer Cincinnati dot com. And also the

1:11:00.040 --> 1:11:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Cyclones kicking off the season tomorrow, facing off the season on.

1:11:07.040 --> 1:11:08.920
<v Speaker 2>And I know they're a minor league team and like

1:11:09.080 --> 1:11:11.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't they don't get you know, regular

1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:13.800
<v Speaker 2>media coverage or whatever. But if you ever get changed,

1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:15.720
<v Speaker 2>like you looking for something to do on a Saturday night,

1:11:15.840 --> 1:11:19.559
<v Speaker 2>absolutely go to Cyclic. My son and I went last week.

1:11:19.680 --> 1:11:22.879
<v Speaker 2>It was a lot of fun. It's just so entertaining

1:11:22.960 --> 1:11:25.320
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's fun and it's energetic.

1:11:25.000 --> 1:11:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's well and it's you know, look, I'm not

1:11:29.040 --> 1:11:31.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna pretend I'm a giant hockey fan, even though I

1:11:32.360 --> 1:11:35.160
<v Speaker 1>when I watch it, I enjoy it. Yeah, one of

1:11:35.200 --> 1:11:39.519
<v Speaker 1>the I've been to two I think two NHL games,

1:11:40.320 --> 1:11:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and that was two of the best times I've ever

1:11:42.200 --> 1:11:44.920
<v Speaker 1>had going to a sporting event, just because the crowd

1:11:45.080 --> 1:11:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is so into it and it's crazy and people just

1:11:47.960 --> 1:11:51.120
<v Speaker 1>some guys are tearing their each other's heads off, and

1:11:51.320 --> 1:11:55.160
<v Speaker 1>just the finesse watching them, you know, when when up,

1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:58.000
<v Speaker 1>when they're setting up, you can see them setting up

1:11:58.040 --> 1:12:01.799
<v Speaker 1>a play and when it works, it's like it's crazy

1:12:01.920 --> 1:12:05.960
<v Speaker 1>good and it's obviously a unique, unique sport.

1:12:06.040 --> 1:12:09.040
<v Speaker 2>And you know the fact that these guys can just

1:12:09.280 --> 1:12:13.000
<v Speaker 2>skate so well alone is an incredible skill in itself.

1:12:14.360 --> 1:12:16.960
<v Speaker 1>With that, let's check in with traffic and weather, what

1:12:17.479 --> 1:12:17.960
<v Speaker 1>is going on.