1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: All right, back on the Eddie and Rocky Show, Rock 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Out Today. Jason Williams from The Inquire at Cincinnati dot 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Com is with me here on a Friday, which makes 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: this a Friday kind of extra special because coming off 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: of a Bengals win that game last night, that was fun, 6 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: that's all that. Oh yeah, that was just. 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: A fun game to watch, and you know, really really 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: happy for Bengals fans. You know, you saw that very 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: game last year and you knew exactly how that game 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: was going to go. And for it to go the 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: other way finally this time, for them to win in 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: an outscoring of you know, outscoring the other team finally, 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: I think that was pretty cool. 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk to our usual Friday guest around about 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: this time. It's our good friend Richard Skinner from Local 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: twelve and Skinny Ears talking there. And that was we 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: were talking to Jason Hoffman the other day and talking 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: about how one would be fun to see an old 19 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: fashioned shootout between these eighty plus years where the quarterbacks 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: out in the field, and that's when it turned out 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: to be. 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they combined for seven touchdown passes and two interceptions, 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: both by Aaron Rodgers, but the seven touchdown passes for 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: two four year old quarterbacks. 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: Is just insane to think about. 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: It's one thing to think about when you think that 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: Joe Flacco has only been here for nine days basically 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 3: between the time he got traded in that game, and 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: he's already played two games in the nine games span. 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: I mean, two of the most interesting. 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 4: Things last night, and I was down there for Zach 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: killer press conference today, was Joe mentioned, actually Zach mentioned 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: last night. Joe reiterated that there were times where Zach 34 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: would call in a play and they're so long, the 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 4: play calls are so long that Joe didn't completely understand it, 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: and so there are times they lined up in correctly 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: and I and Joe said, he goes. I was so 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: grateful that Zach was patient and just let kind of 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: the play go because I kind of. 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: Knew the concept. I knew where, you know, we needed 41 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: to go. I knew we didn't line up the way 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: we're supposed to line up. 43 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 4: I had that danswered, I mean, you only have three 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: timeouts to burn, so you can't just keep going. You 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: lined up long time out. You line up long time out. 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 4: And he laughed, and he said, you know, It's great 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: that Joe said he was patient or I was paid 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 4: with him because he was patient with me. Because they 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: said those play calls sometimes they just go so fast 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: and you just don't hear them, and so you're dealing 51 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 4: with that on top of all of that that, like, 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: you know, the play calls one thing, and guys are 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 4: going the wrong way, line up the wrong lene. You just go, 54 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: let's go, let's play. And it was wild to watch 55 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 4: how wide open Jamar Chase got on easy routes. It 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 4: was listen, man, I'm I'm an old guy. Man, I've 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 4: seen a lot of stuff in this league. Last night 58 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: was in the top five of wild. 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, And it was funny along those lines. 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: Zach joked last night said, you know that that Joe's 61 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: you know, he has to he doesn't understand my my 62 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: Oklahoma accent, or he's taking a look like whatever. Justice jokingly, 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: of course, but yeah, you're right, Like now that you 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: sit here the day after and the game gets over 65 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: so late and you're trying to process it, and it's 66 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: like holy cow. And then you're like the two old 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: guys and Jamar Chase with the record sixteen catches and 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: it's pretty incredible. I mean the fact that then and 69 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: then the the Bengals, you know, go down there and 70 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: the friar moveth has just got to haunt those guys, 71 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: you know, and Aaron Rodgers does what Aaron Rodgers does 72 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: at quintessential roll out, finds him down the field with 73 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: what two thirty one somewhere around and there, and you're 74 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 2: like yeah, and you're kind of like, here we go again. Yeah, 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: that was it. That was the game right there. 76 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were yeah, seconds away from a no, you 77 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: were seconds or not sign. You are minutes away from 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: a soul snatching, season ending loss, right because there's no 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: way you rebound from that. You just don't. It's your 80 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: fifth in a row. You did everything on offense you 81 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: could literally possibly do. I mean, you got twenty three 82 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: targets to Jamar Chase and he caught sixteen of them. 83 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: I mean, you did everything in your power and you're 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: minutes away from a soul snatching loss. And then two 85 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: completions of Javar and then a complettion up the sideline 86 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: with te Higgins who had the wherewithal And and knew it. 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: They told him ahead of time to slide down so 88 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: they could eat up some clock. And then I guarantee 89 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 3: you everybody's holding their breath on the on the field goal. 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you got a you got an undrafted rookie 91 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: long snapper, a second year punter who dropped the snap 92 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: last year, and and you know, Evan nick Pherson. 93 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: Hasn't made a clutch. This is no knock and you 94 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: just hasn't made a clutch field goal in a while. 95 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 4: He's made a lot of them, but he hasn't made 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 4: one in a while. And so you're still even if 97 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: it's a thirty six yard you're like, eh, what could 98 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 4: possibly go in here? And when things are going haywire, 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: you either lose it thirty one thirty because of the 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 4: friar routh touschdown and don't get your range, or you 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: lose it because there's something wacky on the field goal. 102 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: And they won it. 103 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 4: And man, I'm telling you, I was in the locker 104 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: room today and usually the day after game, like Mondays 105 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 4: are a ghost town. 106 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: They come out of meetings and they snatch up their 107 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: stuff and they're gone. 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 4: And today, man, they're dancing in there crazy. 109 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, man, the way that game 110 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: started also yeah, the Steelers passed. They were all over 111 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: flat though. It was like this is gonna be brutal. 112 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, I mean, what happened? Guys? 113 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: You tell me. Did the offensive line just stout up 114 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: or did the Steelers back down on the rush? What 115 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: happened there? 116 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I will say this, I think I don't 117 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: have the exact number. 118 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: It's either ninety eight or ninety nine. Let's just round 119 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: it to one hundred. Jill Flacco's had one hundred drop 120 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: backs from the last two games, and he's been sacked 121 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: three times. And that's the guy who's supposed to be 122 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: a statue, who is supposed. 123 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: To not be able to move, and he doesn't move. 124 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 3: I mean, made a nice run on the Reid option play, 125 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: but he doesn't move, but he gets it out of 126 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: his hands so quickly. And I do think I do 127 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: think the offensive line's played good. Asked that today, I mean, 128 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: if you found your two guards, and he was kind 129 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: of wish you washing, because I don't think he wants 130 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: to bury Dylan Fairchild, the rookie, and Lucas Patrick. But 131 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: Dalton Reiser was awful at right guard and the two 132 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: starts he made He's been great at left card the 133 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: two starts he's made. Dylan Rivers gave up a sack 134 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: last night, the rookie right guard, but for the most 135 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: part he keeps the sending. Marius Men's last night was great. 136 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: Orlando Brown Junior hasn't played well the last few games, 137 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: and suddenly he played well last night. And you know again, 138 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: some of it is Flackel gets it out of his 139 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: hand fast. I think the game before the Packer game 140 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: when he got out of his hands in two point 141 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: five seconds or less, he was twenty one of twenty five. 142 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: I don't have that metric from last night. I don't 143 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 3: know what that is. But he got out of his 144 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: hands so fast, like there was a touchdown to t Higgins, 145 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: the one where te Carter out to twenty and then 146 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: race the last twenty yards into the end zone. If 147 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: you watch that play from behind, and I am bed 148 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: tweets in my game stories, I'm doing it. I embedded 149 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: a tweet of Joe the scene from behind the line 150 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: of screamage, Like with Joe Flacco's looking at he's through 151 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: that with such anticipation, like there's a defender, but he 152 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: knows where he's gonna go and he's gonna go behind 153 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: the defender in front of the other defender. 154 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: And he puts in a perfect spot where he catches 155 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: it goes up the field. I mean a lot of 156 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: this is on Joe Flacco getting out of his hands quickly, 157 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: So it's I don't even know what the sand that. 158 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: It has been just. 159 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: Remarkable to watch, especially the last six quarters of this offense, and. 160 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: Even his unremarkable stuff was remarkable. I was trying to 161 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: squeeze this in my columns and say dot com, and 162 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: I couldn't figure out a way to get it in there. 163 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: You know how that goes skinny when you're trying to 164 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: write something. 165 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, read right. Well no, no, not the read option. 166 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: It was. 167 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: It was in midway through the third quarter. They're down 168 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: in the red zone there and he you know, Flacco's 169 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: under pressure on second, second goal and he drops back 170 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: under pressure. 171 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: He just throws the ball out. 172 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: Of the little way. 173 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: Then on the next play, third and goal, he rolls 174 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: out right. No one's open. He's basically throws the ball 175 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: on the ground close enough to a receiver. They chip 176 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: shot field goal. They go up twenty to ten. They 177 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: don't waste that opportunity there to score and obviously in 178 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: a close game, and that was in the middle of 179 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: a where they had gone six straight drives where they 180 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: scored either touchdown or field goal. And I thought again 181 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: that that right there was part of why they brought 182 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco here because Jake Brown, god God love him, 183 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: he would have tried to force something there. And we 184 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: all know when he was forcing stuff, the bad stuff 185 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: that was happening. But you know that doesn't jump out 186 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: at you and we're not really breaking that down and 187 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: you know, all over the place. But I thought those 188 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: two consecutive incompletions were really critical. 189 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 4: No, that's a great that's a great point. 190 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: I didn't say it in either, but I remember the 191 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: I remember the sequence like it was two minutes ago. 192 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: And I think it's one of the reasons they don't 193 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 3: go get a Russell Wilson other than you know, some 194 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: of the locker room via stuff. But it's you know, 195 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: Russell still thinks he can create with his feet and 196 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: make plays and he just can't. At some point, you 197 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: just can't. Joe never did. Joe fucker never did. 198 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 4: He never had. It's not been his DNA. It's been 199 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: fight for another down. Yep, and you know that the arms, 200 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 4: the arm talent is still there, the anticipation is still there. 201 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: You can tell, man. 202 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: He he wants so badly to make this work. Like 203 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: I can't remember the question last night Jason Prescower was 204 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: a long line of did you ever think you, you know, 205 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: two weeks ago, do you ever think you'd have a 206 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: chance to feel this again and start again? And he 207 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: kind of pauses, No, not really, And I think he's 208 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: relishing the fact that he's getting this opportunity and it's 209 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: it's just amazing. I said, that's somebody from the We 210 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: were kind of in a circle, you know, waiting for 211 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: some players in the locker room. I said, you know, 212 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 3: if Joe Burrow comes back later this year, I mean 213 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: you could maybe potentially have two or co comeback Players 214 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: of the Year in the NFL this year. Joe Flaco 215 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 3: for coming back from what he came back from and 216 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow for come back when he came back from 217 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: It's insane. 218 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Wow, you know what that's uh, Well, for one thing, 219 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: I also wanted to touch on what you guys think 220 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: about and who doesn't love to see Mike Tomlin wine 221 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: about Flaco coming from the Browns to the to the Bengals, like, 222 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: why would you do that? They're stupid? But also, what 223 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: happens at the end of the year. Let's say that Flaco, 224 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: that's say they win, how whatever, It's going to be 225 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: five games between now and when he potentially could come back, 226 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: maybe six games something like that. Let's say he wins 227 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: four out of those six games? Do you bring back Burrow? 228 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: Kill Burrow's Joe Burrow? And if kill Burrow is one 229 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: hundred percent, it's Jill Burrow times one thousand. I'll use 230 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: an example. People in the audience will not know this, reffors. 231 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: Some will, I'm so sorry I shouldn't say that way, 232 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: but most people won't. The nineteen seventy two Miami Dolphins, 233 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: the finish undefeated. Bob Greasey, their quarterback, their starting quarterback, 234 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: broke his ankle in game. 235 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: Four or five. I came rich and an old vet 236 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: your name, Earl Morele, came in and Earl led him 237 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: to it, led him all the way to an undefeated season. 238 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: And then Earl starts the first playoff game and did okay, 239 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: and they came back and won. Then in the second 240 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: playoff game, they're in Pittsburgh and Earl isn't playing so good, 241 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: and they turned back to Bob Greasy and then Bob 242 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: Greasy at that point was healthy, led him to a win, 243 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: and then they started Bob Greasy and the super Bowl 244 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: and led him to win. Bob Greasy isn't even Joe Burrow. 245 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 3: And Bob Greasey is a great player. I mean he 246 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: was one of the great quarterbacks of his generation. Joe 247 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: Burrow is too, and I think Joe Flacco understands that. Again, 248 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 3: this is all things being equal with Joe Burrow coming 249 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 3: back one hundred percent, I mean, when he's one hundred 250 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: percent and you know he's one hundred percent, I mean, 251 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: there's not even a debate. 252 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: It's a good question, Eddy, because it was like should 253 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 4: you write the hot hand? 254 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 2: No, sorry, I'm right to Joe went back to that, 255 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: uh the Tomlin and you know, I know it came 256 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 2: off as whiny, and I know this isn't necessarily a 257 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: local angle to this, but overall, when you look at 258 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: the AFC North, I mean, he makes a good point 259 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: and then you're kind of like, I mean, you, no, 260 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: he's not wrong, and you know we were talking you 261 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 2: skinny sits a couple of seats away from me in 262 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: the press box. And you know, we were talking about 263 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: this last night, about what the heck were the Cleveland 264 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: Browns thinking about trading this guy? This guy is by 265 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: far was a you know, at least you think like 266 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: he's their best quarterback and uh, you know, I mean clearly, 267 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: well right, I mean, and they they have the defense 268 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: to keep him in and like, all right, if you'd 269 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: have kept flaccoh and he could have done this now, Joe, 270 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: and Cleveland doesn't. 271 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: They don't have a Jamar or t which is a 272 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: huge deal, but. 273 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: Part of it. 274 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, No, And to boath things real quick 275 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 3: on Tomlin, I mean, he's not wrong, and I think 276 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: he knew he was scared of Oh my gosh, I'm 277 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: gonna say, Shoe Flako won a big game. I mean 278 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: last night, made Mike Tomlin on the road in the 279 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: AFC North on Thursday night games and win seven. 280 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: You don't think he didn't know that in the back 281 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: of his mind. I'm O and six. I gotta play 282 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: this guy. 283 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: And lastly, I mean to the Browns point, I think 284 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 3: the Browns just simply did an old pro a solid 285 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: and I. 286 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: Know that's that's usually. 287 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: I agree with that. 288 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: Like, you know, you came and bail us out in 289 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three and you got us to the playoffs. 290 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: We're terrible, and we know we're terrible, and let's go 291 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: with a youth movement. Let's let's let's see with the rookie. 292 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 3: The two rookies have for us at quarterback, and they 293 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: did the guy a solid and on every. 294 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: Acame and cost Oh yeah, exactly with the with that's skinny, 295 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: we will let you go, buddy, Thanks so much, have 296 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: great week, go thanks our good friend to Richard Skinner. 297 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: And with that we check in with traffic and weather. 298 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: What is going on? Jayson Williams from The Inquirer since 299 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: ninety dot com is with me, Jase, want to salute 300 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: our citizen of the day here on the Indiant Rocky Show. 301 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: It's Mike from Joe's Piece Area in Dayton, my old uh, 302 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: my old hometown. Mike a big listener of the show, 303 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: So salute to Mike. Is it Dayton style pizza? 304 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: Yes? 305 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, for my money, that thin crust that's 306 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: real big yeah. I mean you can get it anywhere, 307 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: but that called that's Detroit style. Or Dayton style, whatever 308 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: you want to call it. But yeah, nice thin crust, underrated, man, 309 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: a lot of goop Dayton Dayton style pizza, underrated. I 310 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: like it. I'm with it me too, And cheers Mike. 311 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: Uh so you were there last night, yes, sir? What 312 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: was the what was the vibe? It looked like I 313 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: told my wife right when the game started, when the 314 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: when the Steelers just drove, and the fact that Aaron 315 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers could stand back in the pocket and dance around 316 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: for like, yeah, eight ten seconds. You ain't gonna win 317 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: a lot of games. I can't if you're that's your defense. 318 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: But they it's mal pulled it out place Place was 319 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: really really subdued. I thought I thought it was going 320 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: to be. I thought it would be quite subdued after that, 321 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: and then it felt like it was that way really 322 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: for the most part, all the way up until well, 323 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean until you know, Moneymack get the game winner there, 324 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: and even then you're just kind of like still eleven 325 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: second what it was it's eleven seconds? I think was 326 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: let like, oh, Aaron Rodgers are gonna hit one of 327 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: those hail aris. I legitimately think that that was probably 328 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: in the back of a lot of Bengals fans minds, 329 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: because this is exactly the game that has not gone 330 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: their way the last few seas well last season. You know, 331 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: that close game. 332 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: That defense is not good and it's probably worse this 333 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: year than it was last year. And I know it 334 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: that's been a little overshadowed because of the quarterback stuff. 335 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, and then. 336 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: But it was just really magical there that And it's 337 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: kind of an overused term, but for someone in there, 338 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: I think it might have been Skinny in the press 339 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: box said or PDJ may have said it like Steelers 340 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: may have scored too fast there the way Flacco was going, 341 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 2: and sure enough they did. 342 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I thought, Yeah, like, maybe slow your 343 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: role here these guys. Uh, Flacco has been all up 344 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: your butt the whole game, and now all of a sudden, 345 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna pull the trigger. My first reaction was, Okay, 346 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: here's where the Steelers defense is going to show up, 347 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: and they're gonna you kept waiting for that, right, So 348 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be an influencer or they're gonna be in Uh, 349 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, something's gonna happen in the interception of some nature. 350 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: And then uh, and then that happened. But watching Flacco 351 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: run for whatever it was thirteen fourteen yards or whatever, 352 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there thinking, dude, you look like me running. 353 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: But hey, there wasn't anybody within ten yards of them. 354 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: I mean that entire stadium him. We were all fooled. 355 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 2: Any you just can't help but chuckle. And that was 356 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: that was that was cool? What what? 357 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 5: What? 358 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: As as much as Zach Taylor takes a lot of 359 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: heat for the play calls, there were a couple of 360 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: moments last night, you were like number one, that was 361 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: a good play call. Number two there was a call 362 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: where I mean it was funny because he had challenged 363 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: the spot and that was one of those spots where like, 364 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: I mean they literally I think it was like four 365 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: inches they needed to go. And you're like Zach is 366 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: so many times it feels like in the last few 367 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: years where it's like you try to get cute, you know, 368 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: and like last night, by golly, it was you know, 369 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: there's Joe Flacco just you know, snuck it right up 370 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: the middle. I believe Chase came in almost like a 371 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: kind of a mini tush push didn't really need to 372 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: do it, but Chase Brown just kind of comes up, 373 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: gives him the nudge, didn't need to and uh. 374 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: First down. Hats off to Chase brow hell of a 375 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: game last night. I mean, it's great to see because, 376 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: like when you it's got to happen. 377 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: The way they run the ball allows Flacco, it only 378 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 2: helps them. And you know they didn't have that with 379 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: Jake Browning and you know that, Yeah, I'm not you know, 380 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: Jake Brownie had his issues, but there were some things 381 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: there that you know, he could have gotten some. 382 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: Help on with that. We check in with traffic and weather. 383 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: We got John Mattaree's coming up. But that's one of 384 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: the things I said to my wife last night, was like, 385 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: it's not a good night to beat to beat. Jake 386 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: Browning Show with Jason Williams from the Inquire Cincinnati dot 387 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: Com is with me and as we do about this 388 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: time every Friday, Jase, we talked to this fellow right here, 389 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: John Mattei's Channel nine. Don't Waste your money and Johnny, 390 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: we've been talking about the Bengals game. Obviously it's been 391 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: big topic of discussion. So what has happened to Bengals 392 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: ticket prices? As of I know about one o'clock this morning. 393 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, good afternoon. It is amazing what's happened with 394 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 4: Bengals ticket prices. You should have bottom oh about two 395 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: and a half weeks ago and the Boys were in 396 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: the middle of that four game Yid browning at the 397 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 4: quarterback and people were saying, it's another lost season. It 398 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: was looking like another Andy Dalton type of year. And 399 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: the ticket prices were actually dropping to about fifty bucks 400 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 4: just a week and a half ago. Two weeks ago, 401 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: fifty bucks. You want to go into game fifty bucks 402 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 4: because you know, it just wasn't much demand. And it 403 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: is unbelievable what has happened since last night about eleven 404 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 4: thirty pm. The prices are ticking up. And yeah, and 405 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 4: the this is on Ticketmaster because Ticketmaster does the verified 406 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 4: we sail very trustworthy. The cheapest game right now I'm 407 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: finding is the upcoming one and a week and a 408 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: half the Jets, because it's the Jets. What are they like, 409 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: They're zh to twelve already, right, you know, you know 410 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 4: it's a get and there, yeah and there. Now the 411 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: ticket prices are starting at ninety dollars, that's the upper 412 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: deck ninety You want a decent seat in the Bowl. 413 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 4: We're talking about two hundred. It's the resale price right 414 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: now for the jet and they're cheap compared to the 415 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 4: next weekend when the Bears. The Bear's got to down. 416 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: And when the Bears come, it's sort of like when 417 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh comes. They tend to bring their fans with them. 418 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 4: We drive down and they're finding the starting tickets starting 419 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: prices around one hundred and eighty dollars. That's upper deck 420 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: one eighty, and then you're getting two fifty three hundred 421 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: down in the Bowl. So it is unbelievable. Guys, what's 422 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: happened in just a week and a half since Joey 423 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 4: two point zero arrived. Because it's amazing. I mean they 424 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 4: were giving tickets away for forty and fifty bucks two 425 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 4: weeks ago. 426 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. With the well, the Bears fans are going to 427 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: be just like the Cubs fans. I mean, look at 428 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: it when the Cubs play here in town. Jase, you 429 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: can testify for this one. You're right. I was gonna say, yeah. 430 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 4: You go to Great American and it's all through half right. 431 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: It might be fifty to fifty easy. Yeah, So that's 432 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: what we're going to see you here. 433 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, well yeah, John, I'm on stub Hub right now, 434 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: and yeah, some of those things that you're just mentioning, 435 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: it's the same old story over there on StubHub too. 436 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean there's there. 437 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 2: There's one in the lower bowl at five forty five 438 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: right now, there's one in the middle club level at 439 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: seven thirteen. 440 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: Come on, man, Yeah, that's the. 441 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: Fancy, that's the padded the special path beats. You're covered 442 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 4: from the rain in the snow. 443 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: So the Bears. 444 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 4: If you want one other chief game, we looked ahead. 445 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: And if you want one other cheap game, it's the 446 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals in December, because Arizona doesn't bring the crowd 447 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: and people are like Arizona, you know, they're not even 448 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: in our division. So you will find cheap receipts for 449 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 4: that game. But that's about it, the Jets or Arizona. 450 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: Other than that, the prices are going up. As long 451 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 4: as Flacco's throwing like he's through last night, those prices 452 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: are gonna keep going on. 453 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: Well you know guess where it's it's free. It's on 454 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: my couch, but put it on the TV. 455 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: Yep, sit there on the count. Grab that six pack. 456 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 4: And Natty Light and you are good to go. 457 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: And oh, we were just again talking about Chicago with 458 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: the Did you guys hear about the Pope with somebody 459 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: in the crowd when he was in the popemobile and 460 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: somebody's like going go Cubs. Yeah, you know, he's a 461 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: white Sox. He's a white Sox fan. And and the 462 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: Pope heckles, reverse, heckles a guy and goes they lost. 463 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I love it. 464 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it when the Pope's heckling people. 465 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: I like, but you could wear that on your sleeve forever. 466 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: The Pope gave me crap man boom. 467 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 468 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: So what else are we talking about here? 469 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 5: What? 470 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: What's this garage door scam we're talking about? 471 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 5: Johnny. 472 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a real scam involving garage doors if you 473 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: need a repair. And in fact, I just talked to 474 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: this company, PDQ Garage Doors when I heard them heard 475 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 4: their ads. They're out in Milford and they said, whoa, 476 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 4: people are impersonating us. They're pretending to be us, Oh wow. 477 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 4: And they're showing up at people's homes around especially Claremont County, 478 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: but it could be anywhere else in the Tri State too, 479 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: And they're you know, going up to the door. Guy 480 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 4: pulls up in a white van and says, hey, I'm 481 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: here with PDQ doors and I'm here for your annual 482 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: checkup and adjustment. And it's like what it's like, yeah, 483 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: ninety nine dollars we check and adjust your door. 484 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: You know. 485 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 4: So the person's like, okay, PDQ have heard of them, 486 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: or maybe you have they installed your door. And a 487 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 4: guy gets out there kind of opens and shuts the door, 488 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: and he goes, oh, you got a problem here. This 489 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 4: cable is getting ready to snap. I need to fix 490 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 4: this immediately. And next thing you know, you know, you're 491 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: out six hundred bucks. I had a lady I interviewed. 492 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: She's had a Bethel and this is amazing, and she says, 493 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 4: guy comes out, he says, you need a spring four 494 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 4: hundred dollars. She goes, okay, four hundred bucks. Whatever. You 495 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 4: don't make the garage door work right. He starts taking 496 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: the spring apart. Then he says, oh, wait a minute, 497 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 4: you need a new table, and then you need the 498 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 4: new little rollers on the cable. He wouldn't leave until 499 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 4: she paid him twelve hundred dollers one thousand, two hundred 500 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: dollars and she doesn't even know who he is. I mean, 501 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 4: he's just Jimmy Bob and a you know, a rusty 502 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 4: white van. So PDQ Door is just saying watch out, 503 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: you know. And it may they may be in person 504 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: in other local garage door companies too, But this is 505 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 4: as I like to say, it's a scam because you 506 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: get a skim because you got to watch out for this. 507 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 4: You know, they'll show up and say, yeah, I'm here 508 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: to adjust your door, and especially if I well, maybe 509 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: my wife had had an appointment with them, or she's 510 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 4: home and she goes, well, maybe my husband made an 511 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: appointment with them. So watch out for these scammy garage 512 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 4: door people. I've got the whole story on WCPO dot 513 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 4: com and on my John Madley's Facebook page. And this 514 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: woman I feel for She spent twelve hundred dollars, just 515 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: wanted they got to leave. At that point she said 516 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 4: he was creepy and she said, I just want him 517 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 4: to leave. She to pay some twelve hundred dollars, give 518 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 4: him a credit card. Yeah, and you can't dispute it 519 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: because because he did the job. He actually did replace 520 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 4: like everything in her house, you know. 521 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, they actually actually actually he actually did the 522 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: actual job. 523 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did the job. She probably didn't need any 524 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 4: of that done. It probably just needed to be lubricated, 525 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: so it wasn't so it wasn't noisy. But you know, 526 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 4: he did twelve hundred dollars worth of work, and you 527 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 4: dispute it to your credit card and they reach out 528 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: to Jim Bob, and Jim Bob goes, oh, I did 529 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: the drawba but on new cables, so real careful. 530 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: It's like when they when you get your oil change 531 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: and they're coming around with every filter you didn't even 532 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: know was in the car, going oh, yeah. 533 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: We have to change the passenger air cabin solder. That 534 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: correct sixty dollars okay, And then you go home and 535 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 4: you look at your handbook and you go, wait a minute, 536 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: this car doesn't have a passenger cabin air filter. That's 537 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 4: on those fancy Aldis and BMW's. I don't have that 538 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 4: my Chevy. But yeah, the same sort of thing where 539 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 4: they add stuff on and it's like, what the hell 540 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: did I just get charged for? 541 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: If Jim Bob is taking credit cards, this this isn't 542 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: going to go real far for him, right, I mean 543 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 2: you're there's there's some trick. 544 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, And in fact PDQ Door says they're talking to 545 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 4: the police about it because they're trying to get to 546 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: the bottom of who is running around in these old 547 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: rusty vans trying to fixture former employee. 548 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: Employe he knows how to fix the garage door. Maybe 549 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: he is, well, who knows. 550 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 4: For these creepy people. I'm supposed to be the only 551 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: creepy person out there. 552 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: Looking around the sea for creepiness. You're the uh yeah, 553 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: you're the guy and the fedora and the trench co walking. 554 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: Around going in the sun glasses. John may. 555 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Hamburger lady. 556 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm but I'm allowed to be creepy. So 557 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 4: you know, watch your children and it's a living Take care, hey, 558 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: got that, have a great weekend and don't waste your money. 559 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: Thanks John, our good friend, John Matterys w c PO 560 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: and nine News coming up next. Speaking of creepy, We've 561 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: talked to this fellow a couple of years in a 562 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: row around this time of year, and they have now 563 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: been named I'm Scott the scariest. 564 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 5: It's the the. 565 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: Haunted houses are all around here, you know, end school, 566 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: all that, all that stuff. This has been named the 567 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: scariest haunted house in the world. Just that old slaughterhouse 568 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: down the old slaughterhouse down in Texas. We got the 569 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: guy who runs it coming up after our news right now, 570 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred w l W. All right, here 571 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: it is after Friday, coming up on the Halloween season. Jason, 572 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: know we are two weeks out. Why don't we do 573 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: got your candy? 574 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, took out a second mortgage to get that candy 575 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: this year. 576 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: How about talked about yeah, how about how expensive that 577 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: is now brutal? But uh, you know people are going 578 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: out to the uh, to the haunted houses and all 579 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: that stuff. Did you ever do that when you were 580 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: a kid. When you were you didn't go to the. 581 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: I grew up on a farm mountain then, as you know, right, 582 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: we didn't do trick or treating. We didn't we didn't 583 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: do Halloween. The only thing Halloween we'd do is like 584 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: at school, we'd dress up, right, you know that right 585 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: around the school. 586 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: No corn maize, nothing like that, none of that. None 587 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: of it. Come on, man, none of its kind of 588 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: childhood my own corner may we had a corn field. Well, yeah, 589 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: I ever wanted to walk through the corn I'd go 590 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: over or my grandpa's what we lived on his. I 591 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: mean our house was built on his farm, so I 592 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: can go over to his cornfield and walk around. You 593 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do that though, because there's these massive 594 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: banana spiders that set up shop. Why white Grandpa had 595 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: a tobacco flork. It was scary down in deep down 596 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: in southeast Kentucky. Yeah, and uh you could run into 597 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: all kinds of little critters and underneath those plands. 598 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 4: Man. 599 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but these haunted houses and stuff, people pay 600 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: good money. They you know, King's Islands making a fortune 601 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: off of that stuff. Blah blah blah on the mall exactly. 602 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: And there is one that has now been voted the 603 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: scariest in the world. 604 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: Play spots just be because you and I we've talked 605 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: about this before. 606 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah and uh it just. 607 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: No thank you for me, But I'm excited for to 608 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 2: hear from our guests about it. 609 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 1: We have talked to our guests before. He owns the 610 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: cutting Edge haunted house in Fort Worth. It is Todd, 611 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: Ja James Todd, welcome back to the show. 612 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 6: Oh thanks for having me on. 613 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: So Todd, I mean to be voted best best in 614 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: the worst scariest in the world. Dude. That's big. 615 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. Man, I don't even know how that happens. Uh, 616 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 6: but it's an honor for sure. But you know, we're just, yeah, 617 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 6: we just love to scare people and we try real hard. 618 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: So what are they what did they judge that on, Todd? 619 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how many people have heart attacks? And do 620 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: you have how many ambulance calls you all have or what's. 621 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: Oh I don't know, I don't know. 622 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's that big. 623 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 6: But we definitely it's all about our actors and we do, uh, 624 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 6: we do a Broadway style audition for our actors and 625 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 6: actresses and you know, they get called back auditions and 626 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 6: we get hundreds of people trying out, and you know, 627 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 6: we picked the cream of the crowd, people that are fat, 628 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 6: the big, or just scary looking, and you know, put 629 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 6: them all together and they make a great team and 630 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 6: then we have a bunch of fun. 631 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: Todd, The Cutting Edge on an House alone scares me 632 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: because you're in an old slaughter house, right, and so 633 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: the name cutting Edge is that, right? And it kind 634 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: of set the scene there in Fort Worth for why 635 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: this place is so scary. 636 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, it's in a one hundred and twelve year 637 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 6: old meat packing plant that'd been abandoned for a long time. 638 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 6: And it's in a part of Fort Worth, Texas historically 639 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 6: known as Hell's Half Acres. So it's kind of got 640 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 6: some good history to it. And you know, it goes 641 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 6: that you go up and down, you know, several stories 642 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 6: and then down into this bank basement and I mean 643 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 6: the building alone is foreboding and awesome, but you know, 644 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 6: then you add a bunch of great sets and darkness 645 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 6: and fog and chainsaws and banana spiders, and you got something. 646 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: So you're talking about auditioning all these people. We've talked 647 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: about this before, but how many your cast is? How 648 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: many people? 649 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 7: Uh? 650 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 6: We weren't about one hundred people cast, one hundred and 651 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 6: fifty total, And uh yeah, it's it's a big production. 652 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 6: It's it's it's not unlike a Broadway show that you 653 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,479 Speaker 6: would walk through, which would probably get really torn up. 654 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 6: But uh, I mean, if you if you look at 655 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 6: our sets and our music and our actors, and we 656 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 6: have this amazing drum line, if you look up cutting 657 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 6: edge of drum line, you can kind of see the 658 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 6: quality of the drum line they're they're one of the 659 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 6: best around and and you know we sort of mish 660 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 6: mash all that together with amazing actors and and then 661 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 6: you know, we. 662 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 5: Come up with something that's pretty cool. 663 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: And yeah, people coming from all over right to come 664 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: the cutting edge. 665 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 5: They do. 666 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 6: They like doubts what we're pret pretty nice place to visit. 667 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 6: And Fort Worth has a lot going on and uh 668 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 6: and uh you can you can fit the hanted house 669 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 6: in there and it works out really well. 670 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: Todd James is our guest and uh, Todd, how talk 671 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: about how you guys came to uh to get this 672 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: old beat packing place? I mean, just an old abandoned 673 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: building and you was it known to be I not haunted, 674 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, just how did you come across it? 675 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: I guess I'll just make those short question. 676 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 6: You know what I'm from, Uh, I'm here locally. And 677 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 6: so you drove past that place for years since you know, 678 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 6: well when I was in college, and it sets on 679 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 6: top of this hill sort of at the converge and 680 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 6: so of several of our highways, and it would just 681 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 6: set there empty. 682 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: For years and years. 683 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 6: And uh we were in another place, uh for for 684 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 6: a bit, and I always thought, man, I'd sure like 685 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 6: to get that place on top of that hill because 686 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,959 Speaker 6: it's super creepy. And finally, I just kind of met 687 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 6: an old guy that owned it and talked to him 688 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 6: for a long time, many years, and I guess I 689 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 6: wore him down and he sold it and let us 690 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 6: start scaring people in it because it did work out 691 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 6: really well for us. It's in, it's in a perfect location, 692 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 6: and it's on the top of a creepy hill. So 693 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 6: uh yeah, yeah, just kind of eyebaulted for. 694 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 5: A long time. 695 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: And you've been doing this with thirty five years, is 696 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: that right? 697 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 5: Yeah? 698 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 6: Thirty five years to start thirty six season. 699 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 5: That's that's right? 700 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: And is it? Is it? Is it a new Is 701 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: it a different experience every year? So certainly if you're 702 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: a local and you you know, you've been coming every year, 703 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 1: are you getting scared in a different way every year? 704 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, Yeah, we're always we're constantly changing and innovating, 705 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 6: and that's kind of why we, you know, named ourselves 706 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 6: years ago cutting ends. We decided we were going to 707 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 6: be different than everybody else and do things differently. So 708 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 6: you know, every year we're we're you know, we reinvent 709 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 6: and innovate, and it's uh, I mean, it's not not 710 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 6: just me and the builders and the special effects guys. Man, 711 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 6: we take you know, all of our actors have great 712 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 6: ideas and uh, you know, everybody and all the departments 713 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 6: will come up and say, hey, you know you have 714 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 6: thought about this, and we'll be like. 715 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: Oh no, we haven't. 716 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 4: Let's do that. 717 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 6: So we got it. Yeah, So you know, we're not probable. 718 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 5: Enough to think that we all make it. 719 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 6: It takes it takes one hundred and it takes one 720 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty people and everybody's ideas. 721 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: To turn this thing out. Sometimes, well it's like Santa's workshop. 722 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: When do you you guys just on November first, are 723 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: you already plotting next year or when you go about 724 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: like starting to invent new scenarios and whatnot. 725 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 6: Oh man, it's when we're walking around now at the show. 726 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: People are just coming up going, you know, what we 727 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: should do next year? 728 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 6: And then all the ideas started, it aren't getting generated. 729 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 6: But we take a little time down after November first, 730 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 6: enjoy the holidays, and then you know, by January we're 731 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 6: back at it. So back at it building and retooling, 732 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 6: and we're open for a Valentine's Day show, which is 733 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 6: pretty cool. We do all the Friday the thirteenth in there, 734 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 6: which is nice, and then we do a summer a 735 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 6: summer show, so we're always kind of popping this show 736 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 6: out every couple of months. 737 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: So that was what I was going to ask you. 738 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 2: This is a this is a full time job, right, 739 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: I mean you've made a time job out of a 740 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: haunted house. That's awesome. 741 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well talk about crazy nich Yeah right, well you 742 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: can you can check it out and see what the 743 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: cutting edge Haunted House is all about. Voted the scariest 744 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: in the world, Todd James, thanks so much. You can 745 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: check it out on YouTube, and man, I'm again, I'm 746 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: sure once you get that kind of thing scariest in 747 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: the world, like Jason said earlier, you have to have 748 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: people coming from like Europe and stuff going like I 749 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: got to see this. 750 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, we get a lot of people that travel, and 751 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 6: that's you know, that's we're just we're just really blessed 752 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 6: and can't can't be thankful enough for for the great 753 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 6: people that work with us. 754 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 5: And we just we have an amazing team. 755 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: So I mean that's at that force, all right, brother 756 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: good stuff. Man's on all your success. 757 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 6: Thanks so much, appreciate you Havevy Halloween. You folks have 758 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 6: fine watch out for those treacherous. 759 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: You never know, Boddy, keep out on the cordfield. You 760 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the banana spiders. But see 761 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: that's I haven't been one of those in a long time, 762 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: and I think they've just because everything has gotten so much. 763 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 6: You know. 764 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: I when I was like in high school and stuff, 765 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: we went to a couple of those things. And back then, 766 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean, people could like grab you and stuff. And 767 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: I think finally that well probably because somebody who would 768 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: grab you would get their lights shut out on them 769 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: with with a punch by a big guy. But there 770 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: was a lawsuit or time. I'm sure there was a 771 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: couple of lawsuits along the way. Now, no physical content 772 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,479 Speaker 1: of that type of thing, but back in the day. 773 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: But I can't imagine how scary this must be. If 774 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: it's voted the scariest in. 775 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 2: The world, I'll take your word for it. If you're 776 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 2: into that sort of thing, this sounds like something to 777 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 2: travel for. 778 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: Well, hey, look, I'm sure people there are people who 779 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: do this kind of If there are people who travel 780 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: all around and go to everything on what's the show Diners, 781 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: Drivers and dives. They you know, retired people, couples will 782 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: drive all over the country and visit every one of 783 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: those little diners and you know mom and pop places. 784 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm just talking to someone the other day has been 785 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: in within the last week about how they love Fort Worth. 786 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 4: Man. 787 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: I think I think that whole area is just one 788 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: big concrete suburb, right, But like Fort Worth is unique. 789 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 2: And then you got Dallas and that's a I've been 790 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 2: through the airport. That's about the size of it. That's 791 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: all I know about Dallas. 792 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's big. With that, we check in with traffic 793 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: and weather. What is going on? Samstell shaking my head 794 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: over the fact that you never had a Halloween experience 795 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: when you were a kid. Nothing, those soaping windows. 796 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 2: No, you know, it's like it's interesting. I I've come 797 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: to enjoy it now. You know, live in Wyoming and 798 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: we live in a you know, obviously a neighborhood where 799 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 2: so many kids come through. And sure, I'm getting to 800 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: the point now where I don't have to walk out 801 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: with my kids because they're old enough. Like I mean, 802 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm excited about giving out cant like just 803 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: giving out the candies, sitting there and handing it out 804 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 2: and seeing all the kids that come up. 805 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, when I lived in Oakley, we it got 806 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: to be because you know, obviously you've got to know 807 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: everybody who lives around you and stuff. And everybody was 808 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: was young younger, and by that, I mean they were 809 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: just starting families and stuff. So they're coming around with 810 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: their three four year olds and uh and stuff, and 811 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: but they know you. And so the guys were like 812 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: and dev and I'd be sitting there. I was made 813 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: up a big pot of chili on Halloween and we 814 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: would sit there on the front porch, eat chili and 815 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: drink beers and whatnot. Well, then people started, the dads 816 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: especially would stop by the house because they knew. They 817 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: were like, hey, you go, they know I'd give them 818 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: a beer in other words, a few road pops and uh, 819 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: that's debuts. Did that was her duty. She took the 820 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: kids out. Yeah, I think I did it one year 821 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: when they were little. I walked around with her because 822 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: that's when the kid and and anybody with kids know 823 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: its that it doesn't know a three year old. It 824 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: does them no good to get a giant bag of candy. 825 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 1: So you take them out to like five or six 826 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: houses and get them a couple of candy bars. They're 827 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: gonna go yes, but it's when they get to be 828 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: about ten eleven that they want to be out. 829 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 4: Man. 830 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: If that thing starts at six o'clock and last until eight, 831 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: they're out at five point fifty nine point five nine yes, 832 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: and back at you know, seven fifty nine nine nine yes, 833 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: and they've gotten everything they can. And I told that 834 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: story before there a bunch of boys went out, they 835 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: were probably about eleven twelve, and they took an exchange 836 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: student from Italy out with them, and the kid had 837 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: never experienced a trigger treat. So I'm kind of hanging 838 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: back and watching what's going on. They're swapping cant you 839 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 1: know how you do. I'll give you this recing cap 840 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: for you're yeah, for your payday or whatever, and so 841 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 1: this poor kid, I'm watching it and they're like going, hey, 842 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,399 Speaker 1: I think his name is Luca, Hey, Luca, I'll give 843 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: you a I'll give you a what this piece of 844 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: candy corn for your pack of recent your recent cup there, 845 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 1: My kid's like okay. And that lasted for about three minutes. 846 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: I finally walked over to go guys, he to. 847 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 2: Have none of my wife correct the full sized Snickers bar. 848 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,399 Speaker 1: Coming up. We're gonna be talking to our good friend 849 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: John Risby, the patent professor. This involves Ohio State and Michigan. 850 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: This should be good after the news right now News 851 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW. 852 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 853 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: Well, I'm here at Dancing the Robots with my good 854 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: friend Jason Williams, who is in for Rocky today. Rock 855 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: will be back on Monday. Rocket is a working game 856 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: in James Madison tomorrow, James Madison old Dominion. I had 857 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: to ask you to get more Virginia than that. Well, 858 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: that's when I asked him. I was like, Buddy, I 859 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: gotta tell you. I've always heard of James Madison, but 860 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: I don't have any I had no idea where it's at, 861 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: and he told me in the mountains of Virginia. So 862 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: in uh, in other news, this was, uh, look love me, 863 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: respect me. Some Ohio State Buckeyes. But the Ohio State 864 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: needs to kind of slow the roll a little bit. 865 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 5: Man. 866 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: They're a little tight assed, if you know what I 867 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: mean they are? Did you, well, you saw this story 868 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: that we're going to be talking about here, Ohio University 869 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: is suing a local bar in ann Arbor because they 870 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: have a beer out called buck Eye Tears. Now, why 871 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: let's talk to our good friend John Risby, the patent 872 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: professor about it. Now, John, are we over assessing the 873 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: fact that maybe Ohio State needs to just slow their 874 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: role and have a laugh about this? But man, these 875 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: guys are really protective of that trademark. 876 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:20,919 Speaker 8: They are, right, Hey, John, Let's put you on hold 877 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 8: for a second and see if we can get a 878 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 8: better connection with you. 879 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: And but yeah, these uh, this is a local bar 880 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: in ann Arbor. They've been selling this beer for a 881 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: couple of years and Ohio State has taking them to 882 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: court over it. It's actually pretty good. I mean, that's 883 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 1: a pretty cool name and very very creative. I think 884 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,439 Speaker 1: to name a beer Buckeye Tears if you're an ann 885 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: Arbor bar, sports bar, look at this is a storied rivalry. 886 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: And let's get back to John. Hey, hey, John, So anyway, 887 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: it's good to have you back now. But talk about 888 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: how it seems petty to me. 889 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 9: Well, they got media or try to get mark for 890 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 9: the word. And I know you, uh Ohio and were accessful, 891 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 9: so you know, okay for. 892 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 5: Dollars. 893 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: Let's uh hey, John, let's put you on hold again there, 894 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: and uh see if we can't get that problem corrected. 895 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: But haven't. Isn't All State kind of known for stuff 896 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: like them? The whole the. 897 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 2: Wan there something kind of nuts and you know colleges 898 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 2: in general, especially big football schools, and you know, they're 899 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: very very corporate about this stuff and very protective of 900 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 2: their brand. Well even sold here locally, was it you see? 901 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: Uh you know there was some high school or youths. 902 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe in middle school and Tennessee that was 903 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 2: using like the seat Paul or a version of the 904 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: sea Paul. But this has been within the last year 905 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 2: year and a half I think. And they they went, 906 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 2: they went hard, hard in the paint. See that's what 907 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 2: the thing I was thinking about. I couldn't remember what 908 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 2: it was, but it was a little school down in 909 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 2: uh intention. They have every right too, I mean, you know, 910 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 2: trademark and you got to protect the brand. And I'm 911 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 2: sure the mentality is all right, you let that one 912 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 2: slide and then the next thing, you know, you got 913 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 2: twenty you got twenty different uh middle schools or high 914 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 2: schools or youth sports programs wanting to use that sea 915 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 2: poul and in the same thing. Yeah, this one to 916 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: me is a little because it's a word, you know 917 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you have you have a trademark 918 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 2: on the word buckeye. Well, the state of Ohio, whether 919 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 2: you like Ohio state or not, is the Buckeye state. 920 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: Like, well, that's that's kind of the point. It's like 921 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: suing I don't know, suing the Commonwealth and Commonwealth Kentucky 922 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 1: because they call themselves commonwealth and you know you're from 923 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: like Ireland or something whatever the case might. Right, But 924 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 1: let's get back to John Risby. Hey, John, I think 925 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: we have you this time. Yes, hopefully that much better. 926 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 5: Thank you. 927 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 1: So, So, John, is it way were we started to 928 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: talk about? There is this petty or do you really 929 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: have to kind of defend your brand? Uh, regardless of 930 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: how petty it seems. 931 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, well you have to under trademark law because if 932 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 9: you don't, the trademark could be seen as as abandoned 933 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 9: and uhlat all kinds of. 934 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 4: So we do have to. 935 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 9: Uh So they have no choice, but they do have 936 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 9: a choice on what they what they filed for trademarks on. 937 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 9: They've received a lot of pushback on some of the 938 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 9: trademarks they filed for, but in this case, that's not filing. 939 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 9: They just believe that this mark is diluting their brain 940 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 9: and perhaps, you know, because it's alcohol, they may not 941 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 9: want an associate of Buckeye with alcohol, and it's like 942 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 9: that's part of That's one of the arguments that they 943 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 9: make is that it's because it's the university they do 944 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 9: not want that association, So that could. 945 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 5: Be part of it. 946 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 9: But it's a pretty good defense I think that the 947 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 9: bar has and that's parody. The ultimate test and trademark 948 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 9: case is consumer confusion, and their argument is nobody would 949 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 9: legitimately think that this university is going to be making 950 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 9: fun of themselves by selling this. 951 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 5: Beer, so they're not. 952 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 9: People are going to see through this and see it 953 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 9: as a play on words and as a joke, not 954 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 9: take it as that series. That's their argument that they 955 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 9: should be parody and parodies sends success and a lot 956 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 9: of trademark cases in the past as a defense. 957 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: Well, and we're talking to John Risby, the patent professor, 958 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: and John one of the things that Jason and I 959 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier is, I mean the Ohio Ohio 960 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: is the Buckeye State, so that's the that's the official 961 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: kind of nickname of the state. Not necessarily they are 962 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: the Ohio State buck Guys, of course, but Ohio. But 963 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: Ohio is the Buckeye State, and that's the reason they 964 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: are named the buck Guys, not the other way around. 965 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 9: It is and the buck eye is and it's named 966 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 9: after a tree. And there's thousands and thousands of businesses 967 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 9: with buck Eye. But that's uh, that's uh defenses as well, 968 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 9: which I think is a strong defense. But I think 969 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 9: the strong that that consumers are not. 970 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 5: And that it's a parody. 971 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 9: A dog toy that sold it bad. And they were 972 00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,839 Speaker 9: sued by Jack Dan. 973 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 5: For the. 974 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 9: Trademarket. The court held that in that case, the court 975 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 9: held that the brain used consumers. But there's other cases 976 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 9: where the court said that consumers are going to know 977 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 9: that and are not going to take one product with another. 978 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 9: Another case, the company or face the quoting line. There 979 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,360 Speaker 9: was a student that created a frank called South but 980 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 9: and Uh there was sued for infringement. The court the 981 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 9: Kicks actually settled, so we don't know how the court 982 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 9: would have decided, but again, that would be a really 983 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 9: strong argument. Nobody is going to the door fake has 984 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 9: creaked separate qulothing line. 985 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 5: Out five. 986 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 9: So the case is that the another case for Charbucks 987 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 9: coffee or upheld that uh of the coffee Uh Rose 988 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 9: could there was a play on Starbucks dark ross that 989 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 9: we want to burn. The court allowed the mark or 990 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 9: sorry rejected. Starbucks is super claiming that consumers were not 991 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,760 Speaker 9: so uh, you know, we stand to see what ultimately 992 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 9: happened here. But there's going to be settlement. Uh that's 993 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 9: for US intellectual property attorney. Those are discouraging because now 994 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 9: we don't know how courts are going to decide if 995 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 9: it's settled. You really don't have present. But if it's 996 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 9: a small local bar, it is known as brown Jug. 997 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 9: Uh bow out, take and stop the buck up? Uh right, 998 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,240 Speaker 9: and then we'll court were. 999 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,919 Speaker 1: Well and and uh and thank you John. We're again 1000 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 1: having some technical difficulties here. We really appreciate it. As always, 1001 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: people want to find out or they can go to 1002 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: the patent professor dot com. And all as far as 1003 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm concerned, all these folks have done is give this 1004 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: the little bar, the Brown Jug five billion dollars worth 1005 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 1: of free advertising. You know, I say cheers, the buck 1006 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: Eye Tears and the Brown jug I want to I'm gonna, 1007 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: I want to seek out a buck Eye Tears now, 1008 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: just to satisfy my own curiosity and your palette and 1009 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: my palette. With that, we check in with traffic and weather. 1010 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 1: What is going on? Back on the Eddie and Rocky Show, 1011 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 1: Rock out today, He'll be back on Monday. I'm working 1012 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,760 Speaker 1: with the White good Friend Jason Williams from the Inquirer 1013 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati dot com. And you were there last night, Jace, 1014 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 1: did you experience the new Joe Flacco emo? 1015 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 4: Look the what. 1016 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,359 Speaker 1: I saw it. I'm just I'm actually reading Cincinnati dot 1017 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,320 Speaker 1: com right now. We're just scrolling through there, and I 1018 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: saw him last night, and I was like, what looks 1019 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: what looks there's sort a picture of it. What what 1020 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 1: looks different about He's just got his hairs all kind 1021 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: of he looks all Joe Joe Burrow, Joe Yeah, Joe Burrows, 1022 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Yeah, Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah I did. 1023 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 2: And I'm like, they were, Yeah, you can't see him 1024 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 2: too well from up the press box other than just 1025 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 2: you just see him down on the sideline. Yeah, But 1026 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 2: then the the photos and the video, You're like, and 1027 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 2: I know people on Twitter are like, he looks depressed 1028 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,920 Speaker 2: and his hair was all disheveled, and. 1029 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. If you have to look up, 1030 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: you can look up the pictures obviously, and uh, he 1031 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: just you know, it was always kind of styled and 1032 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: slicked back a little bit and stuff like that. Now 1033 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: he just kind of it's kind of wild. He looks 1034 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 1: like he's in uh you know, like I said, a 1035 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: boy band, right that, or he's. 1036 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 2: Just been playing video games in his basement for the 1037 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 2: last Yeah, it just looks like for the last three months. 1038 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 2: And has it come out to get a haircut or 1039 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 2: do anything? 1040 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you because we talked earlier with 1041 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: Richard Skinner and we're gonna be talking to Pat Running 1042 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: from the inquiry, Yeah, coming up. But when we were 1043 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: talking to Skinny earlier, we talked about the possibility of Okay, 1044 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 1: let's say Flacco goes on a real role here and uh, 1045 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: and these guys actually get back into contention by the 1046 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 1: middle of December. But it's if he do you bring 1047 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 1: back Burrow or do you let him Flacco goes stay 1048 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 1: on his role. But I think I know every they 1049 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: obviously answer is to bring back Burrow. But that was 1050 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: what Skinny said. Yeah, but you and I talked about 1051 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: the fact that hey, if it's if it's if he 1052 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: had asked, you know, and and he's and Flacco's doing 1053 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: well whatever, you know, he's two games over five hundred, 1054 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: whatever case might be coming up here. Do you just 1055 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: continue to play out the season with him or do 1056 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: you bring bro back? I, honestly, goodness don't know, because 1057 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: I I and here's my answer to this. This is 1058 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: a punt. 1059 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 2: This is a punt better than Ryan Ricco can punt. 1060 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,799 Speaker 2: Let's maybe let's give a couple of games here, Let's 1061 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 2: let's let's see how it goes. You see if they 1062 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 2: can get the five hundred and then maybe get above 1063 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 2: five hundred. 1064 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:37,479 Speaker 6: And then. 1065 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 1: All right, let's see all place from there. We've got 1066 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 1: a place from there. Well, we got the Jets suck. 1067 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 10: Now. 1068 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: It seems to me the Bears have been playing pretty 1069 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 1: well lately. Yeah, four and two. Yeah, So then and 1070 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: then it's the bye week. But then you're coming back, 1071 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: you and it's Steelers Ravens blah blah blah, and uh 1072 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 1: and on down the road. So that's when the true 1073 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: test is going to come. Yes, you know you look 1074 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: at the schedule. Yeah, you're right. 1075 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 2: The Jets, all of the Jets, like they've had some 1076 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 2: really close games and you're kind of like the it's 1077 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 2: the NFL, and it's like it feels like that could 1078 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 2: be a little dangerous one. 1079 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously whatever, the Jets have a game 1080 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: this Sunday. 1081 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 2: When when you're the Bengals, nothing's a gimmy with that 1082 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 2: defense obviously, and you know, whether it's the Jets, but 1083 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 2: to play they play the Panthers this weekend, who are better? Yeah, yeah, 1084 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 2: you want to sit here and say, oh they oh 1085 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 2: w and six Jets, like all right, okay, they're going 1086 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 2: to get to five. 1087 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: Formatic. 1088 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the NFL and you're the Bengals with 1089 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 2: that defense, like I you know, you can never get 1090 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 2: over confident. Now if I don't know, Joe Burrow was 1091 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 2: here and this is a home game and they're kind 1092 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,800 Speaker 2: of doing their usual kick things in the gear about 1093 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 2: this time, like all right, yeah, we marked that one 1094 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 2: down as a surefire win. 1095 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: Well, and we also talked earlier last night. The player 1096 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: who didn't have a good night was Jake Browning. Come 1097 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 1: out there and see what I mean, this forty year 1098 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: old guy with the quality of receivers that he has 1099 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: on the button all night long, he rows for over 1100 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: three forty that's a big night. I don't give a 1101 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: damn who you are at quarterback. 1102 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,439 Speaker 2: It certainly, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's the game, 1103 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 2: and I'm sure Jake Browning understands that, but it probably 1104 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 2: has to make him feel like where does he go 1105 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 2: from here? You know, because two years ago he's thinking 1106 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 2: like maybe I could be a starting quarterback in this league. 1107 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 2: I mean, remember he really turned it up Therelyn Burrow 1108 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,919 Speaker 2: got hurt in Baltimore. But now like he's probably gone 1109 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 2: from that to now thinking like, am I even going 1110 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 2: to be able to, you know, stick in this league 1111 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,959 Speaker 2: as even a backup quarterback or maybe even a number 1112 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 2: three guy on a squad. 1113 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, carrying the clipboard guy? 1114 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 7: Uh? 1115 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: With that, we check in with the News News Radio 1116 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 1: seven hundred w l W after the it's it's so 1117 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 1: it's so weird to come into work on a Friday 1118 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,600 Speaker 1: after a Bengals game last night, Yeah, it is. 1119 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty tired. I didn't get out of 1120 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 2: a didn't get home to about two thirty. Listen to 1121 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 2: Austin on the way home. I click it on. I'm like, 1122 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 2: there's Austin talking to Dick from Dayton. He was talking 1123 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 2: from Dayton, and I was like, man, like, write at 1124 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 2: like two ten to twelve. 1125 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: I like, what you want to be doing at two 1126 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: o'clock on a Friday morning. And I bet you this 1127 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: guy was probably spending some late hours too, Yes he was. 1128 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 1: He We all walked out of the stadium to get 1129 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: other bad Brennan from the Inquire Cincinnati dot Com. So, Pat, 1130 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, we've been talking on and off obviously about 1131 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: the game today. Your thoughts on what you saw last night? 1132 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: This team looks to be re energized. 1133 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,479 Speaker 5: I completely agree, and thanks for having me on first 1134 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 5: of all, but I saw what I saw last night 1135 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 5: was really. 1136 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 7: Obviously mostly on offense, was really a carryover from what 1137 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 7: we saw in the second half from the Bengals at 1138 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 7: lambeau Field earlier this week on Sunday, and I thought, 1139 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 7: the best case scenario, on a short week, forty year 1140 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 7: old Joe Flacco might be able to pick up where 1141 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 7: he left off on Sunday, which was still, you know, 1142 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 7: clearly not doing anything special but just being efficient and 1143 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 7: effective in the offense. Well, it looks like on top 1144 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 7: of taking care of his body, which is gonna be 1145 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 7: I would think the. 1146 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 5: Main concern for someone his age, he was able. It 1147 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 5: looked like they were able to, you know, take a. 1148 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 7: Few steps forward with the game planning and look, I 1149 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 7: mean I saw a stat last night that Joe Flacco 1150 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 7: through had a three touchdown game against the Steelers for 1151 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 7: the first time since twenty eleven. 1152 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: Wow. 1153 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 7: I mean that's reaching back into I mean, that's partly 1154 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 7: a commentary on how old this guy is and how 1155 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,800 Speaker 7: long he's been around in the league, which is remarkable, 1156 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,920 Speaker 7: But that's reaching back into vintage. 1157 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 5: Joe Flacco territory, you know. 1158 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 4: So it was a. 1159 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 5: Continuation of what we saw at Green Bay. 1160 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 7: That was not an anomaly, and that should be at 1161 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 7: the very least, that should be interesting and intriguing for 1162 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 7: this team going forward. 1163 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, Pat, what do you make of the locker 1164 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 2: room and how the locker room has uh, you know, 1165 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,560 Speaker 2: just sort of their viewpoint on on the move of 1166 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco And I know what we saw on the 1167 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 2: field last night, but are you are you sensing that 1168 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 2: that locker room feels re energized and that you know, like, hey, 1169 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 2: the front office went out and did something they rarely 1170 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 2: do season trade. Are you are you sensing that you're 1171 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,000 Speaker 2: picking that up? You're in that open locker room, you 1172 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 2: know during the week, you and Kelsey Conway from the 1173 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 2: so so, Yeah, what do you make of that? 1174 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 5: Well, you know a couple of things in Green Bay. 1175 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,439 Speaker 7: Everyone said and did the right things in the locker 1176 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 7: room after a loss. 1177 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 5: You know, you cannot be jumping for joy about signs 1178 01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 5: of promise in. 1179 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 10: So everyone everyone looked and you know, everyone looked like 1180 01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 10: they were supposed to after a loss and said the 1181 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 10: things you say after a loss, you know, professional professional 1182 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 10: ball players doing their thing after defeat. 1183 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 7: But I noticed a quiet, subdued but a quiet confidence 1184 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 7: and kind of a knowledge that like, hey, what what 1185 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 7: Joe Flacco got going there late in the first half 1186 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 7: and throughout the second half. 1187 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 5: Was real, and we believe in it, and we're impressed 1188 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 5: by it, and we think this has staying power. 1189 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 7: That's what I got from the locker room at Lambeau. 1190 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 7: And actually, by the time we got in the locker 1191 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 7: room last night, I a little disappointed. 1192 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 5: A bunch of the guys that jetted off for the night. 1193 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 7: Obviously we spoke to the principles you Jamar Chases and 1194 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 7: Joe Flacco himself, but a lot of the other guys 1195 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,439 Speaker 7: had taken off, but it was after midnight at that point. 1196 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think there Joe Flacco has probably walked 1197 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 5: in with a certain amount of respect being a former 1198 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 5: Super Bowl MVP. 1199 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 7: But I think Flacco has really grabbed the attention of 1200 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 7: what is a comparatively young locker room, you know, compared 1201 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 7: to him. 1202 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 5: I think they believe in this guy. I think they 1203 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:32,760 Speaker 5: believe in him a whole lot. 1204 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I was going to ask you that, Pat, 1205 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: Do you get the impression the that the look the 1206 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 1: guy's career speaks for himself. He's a future Hall of Famer, 1207 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: There's no question about that. I mean, is it a 1208 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 1: certain amount of I don't know, it's not awe Is 1209 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 1: that too strong of a word. I mean, are they 1210 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: just like, okay, cool, we and no disrespect to Jake Browning, 1211 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: but you got this guy coming in his career, as 1212 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: I said, speaks for himself. So you gotta go. Okay, look, 1213 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 1: now we're doing something. We're back on track to maybe 1214 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 1: turn this thing around you get that impression. 1215 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. Actually, I don't think awe is too 1216 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,479 Speaker 5: strong of a word. 1217 01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 7: Jamar Chase used the word aw to describe his reaction 1218 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,919 Speaker 7: to the Browns making the trade. 1219 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 5: Within the division. 1220 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 7: Now, obviously that's a little bit of a different subject 1221 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 7: because it's not talking about Flacco's performances themselves. 1222 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 5: But awe is a word that's in the conversation for sure, Eddie. 1223 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 7: And I think, I mean, I don't. Maybe these guys 1224 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 7: didn't know what to expect. Obviously there was a general 1225 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 7: awareness of the run he went on with Cleveland a 1226 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 7: couple of years ago, but can he really do it 1227 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 7: again at age forty. I think what has happened is 1228 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 7: everyone is looking at Joe Flacco, the way he takes 1229 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 7: care of his body, the way he handles his business, 1230 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:07,160 Speaker 7: his appreciation for this moment in his career, and I 1231 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,920 Speaker 7: think all these guys are realizing, Hey, this guy can 1232 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 7: still make me better. 1233 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 6: This guy. 1234 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 5: I can learn something from this guy. 1235 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 7: And frankly, I hope Joe Burrow is taking at least 1236 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 7: a few notes. No one's saying, you know, this guy's 1237 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 7: not going to supplant Joe Burrow long term and anything 1238 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 7: crazy like that. But there's a lot a lot of 1239 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 7: players in that locker room can glean from this guy. 1240 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 5: So I think they're impressed. 1241 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 7: I think they are comfortable and confident with Joe Flacco 1242 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 7: leading this team at the quarterback position. And I go 1243 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 7: back to a kind of a baseball thing at the 1244 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 7: trade deadline, when a GM makes a move or you know, 1245 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 7: baseball operations, people make a move for a team that 1246 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 7: can energize a locker room, or if you're selling it 1247 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 7: the trade deadline or you know, offloading. 1248 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 5: Guys, I can really bring a locker room down. 1249 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 7: I think just the act of making the trade for 1250 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 7: an experienced veteran quarterback by Duke Tobin and company, I 1251 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 7: think that may have had the same kind of effect. 1252 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 7: It was like saying, hey, we recognize this isn't going 1253 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 7: as well as we thought it would with Jake Browning, 1254 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 7: even though he had good history here. We're gonna make 1255 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 7: a change. This season is not a throwaway. And I 1256 01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 7: think they pulled it off in time to where this 1257 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 7: season doesn't have. 1258 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 5: To be a throwaway. They're up against it. 1259 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:39,680 Speaker 7: They're three and four long road back to really truly, truly, 1260 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 7: truly get in contention, but they're right there in the 1261 01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 7: division as we sit today, As we sit here today, and. 1262 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 5: There's a lot to be there's a lot to be 1263 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 5: excited about here. I think I really do. 1264 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, the way the guys, the way I see this 1265 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 2: as like savor the moment, Like I mean, that was 1266 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 2: just an incredible game when you you think about that, 1267 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 2: that moment itself, the moment of Joe Flacco forty years 1268 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 2: old and the story of that, then the moment of 1269 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 2: the fact that the Bengals went out and traded for 1270 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 2: this guy. 1271 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 1: And I know we all that's what we do. 1272 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 2: We want to sit here and say, oh, can this 1273 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 2: guy get it? Can this guy get the Bengals to 1274 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 2: the playoffs? 1275 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Can he? Can he win the next you know, three 1276 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 1: games in a row? 1277 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 4: Can he do? You know? 1278 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 2: Can can he bridge the gap to Joe Burrow and 1279 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 2: then they can go to the you know, maybe get 1280 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 2: on that Super Bowl run? 1281 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And I know that's you know, 1282 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: that's fans, that that's media, that's what we all want 1283 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 1: to talk about. But I don't know, man, Like you 1284 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,840 Speaker 1: sit here and you think about last night, like, let's 1285 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 1: just sort of savor this for the weekend, right and 1286 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: the fact that that was and even on the other 1287 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: side of the ball too, you know, Aaron Rodgers over 1288 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,320 Speaker 1: forty years old, and that was just we don't we don't. 1289 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 1: We don't get to see that a lot. 1290 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 2: We don't get to see just I mean, I know, 1291 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 2: I know we did see some we saw some high 1292 01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,800 Speaker 2: scoring games here last year. But the fact that the 1293 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 2: Angles can walk out with the win and it allows 1294 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 2: Bengals fans and Zach Taylor said, you know, you know, 1295 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 2: we want guys, we want fans back in the stands. 1296 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 2: We want to give them hope. And I'm paraphrasing him, 1297 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 2: but just all that stuff just in the moment of 1298 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,639 Speaker 2: right now, and you know, not getting too far ahead 1299 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 2: of looking at you know, can they can they beat 1300 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,720 Speaker 2: Baltimore twice? Can they you know, go into Buffalo and win? 1301 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 2: And can Joe Flacco do that? And you know, you know, 1302 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:29,800 Speaker 2: this is just fun right now in the moment. 1303 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:36,440 Speaker 1: Sure, we're talking to Pat Brennan from The Inquirer Cincinnati 1304 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: dot com and Pat, let's put on your other hat 1305 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 1: FC tomorrow tomorrow night here in in town. How are 1306 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 1: we looking what's going on with the playoffs and stuff? 1307 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 7: Oh, uh, the well, FC Cincinnati. Look, they've had a 1308 01:08:54,360 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 7: about another really strong regular season. There playoff position is 1309 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 7: more or less set. They could end up finishing and 1310 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 7: I think second or third near the top of the 1311 01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 7: Eastern Conference. They're a top contender in MLS and in 1312 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 7: the East. And tomorrow there now the playoff field is set, 1313 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 7: the final seedings are not. 1314 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,679 Speaker 5: So all the games will go off. 1315 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 7: Tomorrow at the same time and we'll learn at about 1316 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,639 Speaker 7: the same time, you know, about two hours after kickoff 1317 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:36,080 Speaker 7: tomorrow when or who who I should say FC Cincinnati 1318 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 7: will face in the first round. 1319 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 5: And after they kind of crashed out of the playoffs. 1320 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 7: In the first round last year, this has showed me 1321 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,880 Speaker 7: time for f C Cincinnati. You know, they went for 1322 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 7: the regular season championship again this year, had a good 1323 01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 7: run at it fell short. 1324 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:59,360 Speaker 5: You know, I think they've flushed that and now it's 1325 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 5: time to go on a run. 1326 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 7: This team spends a lot of money comparatively speaking in 1327 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 7: it's peer group. It's one of the most ambitious teams 1328 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 7: in an MLS and with that, with the investment that 1329 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 7: comes with that, you need performance in the playoffs, so 1330 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,919 Speaker 7: they'll know what the what the road through the playoffs 1331 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 7: looks like by tomorrow night, and I'll. 1332 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,879 Speaker 5: Be really interested to see, with everything they've. 1333 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 7: Done to make this team to try to achieve greatness 1334 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 7: with the personnel, if they can actually put it together, 1335 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 7: because I think there was some a lot of disappointment 1336 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 7: in the fan base last year with that early playoff exit. 1337 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: All right, with that, Pat Brennan, we will let you go, buddy, 1338 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. 1339 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 5: Okay, thanks for having me, Guys. 1340 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 1: Brennan from the Inquirer Cincinnati dot com. And also the 1341 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 1: Cyclones kicking off the season tomorrow, facing off the season on. 1342 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,920 Speaker 2: And I know they're a minor league team and like 1343 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 2: you know, you don't they don't get you know, regular 1344 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 2: media coverage or whatever. But if you ever get changed, 1345 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:15,720 Speaker 2: like you looking for something to do on a Saturday night, 1346 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 2: absolutely go to Cyclic. My son and I went last week. 1347 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,879 Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. It's just so entertaining 1348 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,320 Speaker 2: and it's it's fun and it's energetic. 1349 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 1: And it's well and it's you know, look, I'm not 1350 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,880 Speaker 1: gonna pretend I'm a giant hockey fan, even though I 1351 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,160 Speaker 1: when I watch it, I enjoy it. Yeah, one of 1352 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 1: the I've been to two I think two NHL games, 1353 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 1: and that was two of the best times I've ever 1354 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: had going to a sporting event, just because the crowd 1355 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,560 Speaker 1: is so into it and it's crazy and people just 1356 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: some guys are tearing their each other's heads off, and 1357 01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 1: just the finesse watching them, you know, when when up, 1358 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: when they're setting up, you can see them setting up 1359 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,799 Speaker 1: a play and when it works, it's like it's crazy 1360 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: good and it's obviously a unique, unique sport. 1361 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 2: And you know the fact that these guys can just 1362 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,000 Speaker 2: skate so well alone is an incredible skill in itself. 1363 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,960 Speaker 1: With that, let's check in with traffic and weather, what 1364 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: is going on.