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Speaker 2: morning something a little bit different, little lighter, since it's
Speaker 2: been so heavy this week, And that is where are
Speaker 2: you on meat? The meat debate? More and more people
Speaker 2: every day are leading into a plant based diet. Is
Speaker 2: there something there? Or are they just missing out on bacon?
Speaker 2: Without putting words is mouse? I think my first guest
Speaker 2: this morning is going to tell you you're a bad
Speaker 2: person if you enjoy things like bacon, Doctor John Samban Matsu,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good, Scott, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing well? All right. So it's a it's a
Speaker 2: pretty loaded title, The Omnivorees Deception. What do we get
Speaker 2: wrong about meat? As I'm and I'm a vowed fan
Speaker 2: of meat. I like meat. I'm an omnivore. I will
Speaker 2: eat it all I enjoy it.
Speaker 4: Sure well, you know I grew up the same way.
Speaker 4: But what we get wrong about meat is what we
Speaker 4: get wrong about pretty much everything else. The problem isn't meat.
Speaker 4: The problem isn't eating animals. The problem is what we
Speaker 4: do to animals, and what we do is we inflict
Speaker 4: mass violence against them on them. And you know, I'm sure, well,
Speaker 4: let me ask you, do you do.
Speaker 3: Care about animals?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I have a dog love animals.
Speaker 3: Okay. Now, the thing is when we when we're raised, we.
Speaker 4: Think of dogs and cats as somehow special, you know,
Speaker 4: that they're not like other animals, and it's simply not
Speaker 4: the case. Scientifically, Cows, pigs, chickens, sheep, and so forth
Speaker 4: are just as intelligent, just as affectionate, just as capable
Speaker 4: of complex emotions as our own cats and dogs. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's that's a fact.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So so right now people don't realize it's the
Speaker 4: system that we have in place. The food system is
Speaker 4: killing about eighty billion land animals every year, mostly birds animals,
Speaker 4: and up to two point seven trillion marine animals every
Speaker 4: single year. So there's this enormous mass of violence that
Speaker 4: has to happen in order for us to eat our meat.
Speaker 3: Fine.
Speaker 2: And here's why I think most people are fine with that.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you know this is the fact that, well,
Speaker 2: the animal kingdom in itself is extremely violent. You know,
Speaker 2: a lion never gets permission to eat a zebra. Thoes
Speaker 2: are zero craps about its fields. Now, as we get
Speaker 2: into the manufacturing and the business of food manufacturing, including livestock,
Speaker 2: you have different story. And I understand and I get
Speaker 2: it that there are some moratl implications there, but we
Speaker 2: have that we have because of our higher learning. We
Speaker 2: have something that the rest most of the other animal
Speaker 2: kingdom has, and that's a sense of morality. There's no
Speaker 2: morality that's a human.
Speaker 4: Constrict Well yes, no, Actually, the late primatologists France, the
Speaker 4: Wall and others have done enormous research on this and
Speaker 4: they've demonstrated that feelings of reciprocity, empathy, altruism in fact
Speaker 4: can be found in many, many, many species. So we,
Speaker 4: I mean humans arrived on as well. Our safety has
Speaker 4: arrived here about or evolved here about two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty thousand years ago, So we're late comers to complex
Speaker 4: emotions like empathy.
Speaker 3: So it's true that only humans can.
Speaker 4: Talk about an annual, constant, categorical imperative, which is, you know,
Speaker 4: a moral philosophy. So that doesn't mean that that if
Speaker 4: they said, you know, uh, sentiments of care, sentiments of
Speaker 4: fairness are not found in other species. Right, if you've
Speaker 4: ever lived with two cats or two dogs or whatnot,
Speaker 4: you know, there's a kind of negotiating right.
Speaker 2: But you're but you're equating livestock with domesticated animals. So
Speaker 2: that's a false equivalency.
Speaker 3: Why is that a false equivalence?
Speaker 2: Well, because in the wild that doesn't exist. Now, you
Speaker 2: may have primates that exhibit familial type of situations in context.
Speaker 2: We see that with the late Jane goodall right, we
Speaker 2: see that all the time. But yeah, when you're talking
Speaker 2: about animals that provide sustenance for the for human beings,
Speaker 2: that's entirely a different matter. I mean, maybe within these
Speaker 2: species itself, or within the particular family, like a family
Speaker 2: of deer. But again, you know, the tiger or the lion,
Speaker 2: or the predator, be it a hawk or whatever, it
Speaker 2: doesn't give a damn about the feelings of that animal.
Speaker 2: It's it's a meal.
Speaker 4: Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, sure, but
Speaker 4: but but as you were saying, you know, we're not
Speaker 4: obligate carnivores, right, Lions look lions. If there was a
Speaker 4: pack of lions somewhere in Africa that was debating whether
Speaker 4: to eat gizls or not. And this goes to your
Speaker 4: point about humans, you know, being the only species with
Speaker 4: the kind of discourse about morality. Right, if one lion
Speaker 4: says the other heye, joe, you know, you know those
Speaker 4: those gazelle's taste really good. But I just I just
Speaker 4: have a bad feeling about it. Like I was looking
Speaker 4: into the eye of a casel and I thought, you
Speaker 4: know what, we're not so different being that caseelle happen?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: And and the other I mean, and the other line,
Speaker 4: and the other line say, well, you know what, now
Speaker 4: they're just so good.
Speaker 3: I just want to go on. Now.
Speaker 4: The thing is lions have to eat other animals. That's
Speaker 4: just biologically the fact that is not true, and people
Speaker 4: misunderstand what it means to be quote and omnivore. It
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that we have a moral or any other
Speaker 4: kind of license to commit harm against other beings.
Speaker 3: It means that we can metabolize.
Speaker 4: Pretty much anything, including I would point out humans, right,
Speaker 4: I mean cannibalism, Anthropocrates and part of human many men,
Speaker 4: hundreds of human cultures for thousands of years, even parts
Speaker 4: of the human body.
Speaker 3: So we can't simply say, oh, it's natural. It isn't.
Speaker 4: It is no more natural than like downloading Netflix or something.
Speaker 4: It's a cultural choice we make. So and there's no
Speaker 4: reason why we have to keep doing this. And furthermore, like, well.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's get an argument at doctor John Soda
Speaker 2: Matsu the omnivorous deception, and and the premise here is
Speaker 2: is it the morality of it? Is that the environmental aspect,
Speaker 2: I mean, is is there such a thing as humane meat?
Speaker 2: Are you saying that's impossible?
Speaker 4: Yes, I am saying that's impossible. Look, I mean if
Speaker 4: someone came into your you said you have a dog, dog,
Speaker 4: someone came in. Yeah, someone came into your house, and
Speaker 4: you know, blesding your dog to death or stab your
Speaker 4: dog in the throat or stomped on your dogs or
Speaker 4: skin your dog alive. You would be trumped. And that
Speaker 4: was in front of you. You would be traumatized.
Speaker 2: And I would, but you know when I wouldn't if
Speaker 2: I live in a country that in an Asian country,
Speaker 2: where that was looked upon as as a meal, like
Speaker 2: like how those in India look at cows. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: it's cultural, and it's it's it's it's it's a it's
Speaker 2: a nuance, right, it's it's all fabricated in the human mind.
Speaker 2: We can certainly know, but we can do better by being,
Speaker 2: you know, better stewards of the earth in the animal kingdom. Certainly,
Speaker 2: you know, factory farming. We know that there's a lot
Speaker 2: of negative, a lot of bad things that go on there.
Speaker 2: But the idea that somehow we just wake up in
Speaker 2: a perfect world we be all vegetarians, isn't Isn't there
Speaker 2: also a hazard in that?
Speaker 4: No, there's no hazard in it. On the contrary, the
Speaker 4: animal food economy is destroying. It's undermining the conditions of
Speaker 4: all life on this planet. It's the most destructive force
Speaker 4: on the earth in terms of destroying top soil, in
Speaker 4: terms of depleting water, destroying biodiversity, leading cause and massive
Speaker 4: distinction crisis which people don't even talk about. And that's
Speaker 4: even worse than global warming, which animal agriculture is contributing
Speaker 4: about thirty percent of greenhouse gases to. So no, we
Speaker 4: have every intensi to stop this. I mean, vegans and
Speaker 4: vegetarians on balance, if you look at all the medical studies,
Speaker 4: live longer, they do better, they have lower rates of
Speaker 4: hearts these strokes.
Speaker 2: Okay, but aren't many people's food choices literally constrained by
Speaker 2: economics and culture and geography. In a perfect world, you
Speaker 2: could do that, But this is not. It's an imperfect world.
Speaker 2: And framing this is an individual moral choice it ignores
Speaker 2: the issues of food access, agricultural pality, governments, politics, and
Speaker 2: all that other stuff. You're ignoring that. You're you're ignoring
Speaker 2: what creates this, and you can't do that.
Speaker 3: No, I can't. I can't agree with that.
Speaker 4: I mean that the food insecurity is being created by
Speaker 4: the animal system because it's creating enormous disparities of wealth
Speaker 4: between the north and the south. You talk, you talk
Speaker 4: about people, farmers being thrown off their land and the
Speaker 4: Amazon and so forth, to burn down the Amazon rainforest
Speaker 4: by jbs. It suppliers to create uh to provide beef.
Speaker 4: It's the most inefficient, wasteful way to create food for humans.
Speaker 4: But just to correct you, I'm not saying that this
Speaker 4: is a question of individual moral choice, not at all.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that this entire system has to be abolished,
Speaker 4: all of it because none of it is necessary excuse me,
Speaker 4: and all of it is wrong, it's unjust.
Speaker 2: But again, you keep getting back to the semantics of
Speaker 2: the human mind of unjust in these and their feelings
Speaker 2: is what they are morality, but it has in the
Speaker 2: real world.
Speaker 4: Well, listen, I keeap ethics. So I can't agree with
Speaker 4: you on this. I mean, when you know you were saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Everyone's ethics seem these days to be up to the
Speaker 2: individual the eyes of the beholder, So I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's any Well, that's that's moral high ground here.
Speaker 3: That's called moral relativism.
Speaker 4: And getting back to a question I'd asked you about
Speaker 4: how you would feel if someone attacked your dogs. You said, well,
Speaker 4: and you said, if I'd been raised differently in another culture,
Speaker 4: I might feel differently. That's true, but it's irrelevant because
Speaker 4: your your capacity to using your intelligence and your empathy
Speaker 4: to understand what had what would have been done to
Speaker 4: your dogs. You would understand that was unjust, that was
Speaker 4: wrong to do to your dogs, and it has nothing
Speaker 4: to do with your cultural upbringing. I'm saying that that's
Speaker 4: actual knowledge. That's real knowledge. Whereas people in another culture
Speaker 4: who might have been socialized to see dogs simply as
Speaker 4: things be exploited and harmed, they are incorrect. You can't
Speaker 4: compare those two forms of knowledge and say they're equipment.
Speaker 4: They're not equivalently your understanding that your dog has a personhood.
Speaker 3: That is to say, is.
Speaker 4: There someone sure if your dog is a human right?
Speaker 4: But that is that is that's a valid insight Scott,
Speaker 4: that you have having lived with dogs. That's not true.
Speaker 4: That's not true.
Speaker 2: Okay, But again it's you're taking out. I suppose there
Speaker 2: are people who love pigs or eels or whatever it
Speaker 2: might be, and we look at it going, I don't
Speaker 2: get it. It's not for me, but that that in
Speaker 2: itself is human nature. How do you propose you well,
Speaker 2: I guess before we get to that, John, Yeah, the idea, So,
Speaker 2: in a perfect what would happen to the animal kingdom?
Speaker 2: We just let the animals run? What would there be
Speaker 2: any justification for killing animals? Weather for pleasure? Obviously hunting
Speaker 2: would be out with you, but for a food source?
Speaker 2: Do we just let the animal kingdom run itself?
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's have a moratorium on the farm that we're committing.
Speaker 4: I just said that we're killing trillions of animals for
Speaker 4: ye're wiping them out like sharks.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I asked my students sometimes how many humans are killed
Speaker 4: by sharks every year?
Speaker 3: And you know, oh, interestingly.
Speaker 4: They get that about like they say about you know,
Speaker 4: between ten and fifteen humans are killed by sharks every year,
Speaker 4: and we think of sharks are scary, dangerous, irrational creatures. Right,
Speaker 4: there's the fiftieth anniversary year of Jaws. But then I
Speaker 4: asked them, well, how many sharks are killed by humans
Speaker 4: every year? And they guess, oh, thousands, No, right, Okay,
Speaker 4: it's one hundred millions. It's one hundred million sharks every
Speaker 4: year are being killed by humans. And those are intelligent,
Speaker 4: sensitive creatures and we.
Speaker 3: Don't even know. People don't even know that because they're considered.
Speaker 2: Because of a Steven Spielberg movie.
Speaker 4: Well, Spielberson maybe have a huge had a huge impact, right,
Speaker 4: So the sharks beIN supernat But listen, my point is this,
Speaker 4: scrusted other animals are interesting, intelligent, They're worthy of our
Speaker 4: respect and our compassion. They're worthy of our love, you know,
Speaker 4: and we shouldn't destroy we can't let me. We can't
Speaker 4: love what we seek to destroy. So yes, hunt fishing,
Speaker 4: we don't need any of them. There's been vegetarians for
Speaker 4: three thousand years, vegan diety.
Speaker 2: So it's still only like ten to twenty percent of
Speaker 2: the population. I mean, if your idea was so sound,
Speaker 2: why wouldn't we see more of it, especially not just
Speaker 2: in developed nations but elsewhere.
Speaker 4: Well it's not as so you know, the best ideas
Speaker 4: went out. Look, Jesus came two thousand years ago and said, hey,
Speaker 4: let's you know, love your brother. So they killed him,
Speaker 4: you know, and how have humans been doing since then?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Whenever you know, Martin Luther King, hey, let's let's have
Speaker 4: racial equality and end to war.
Speaker 3: And they killed him too, like right.
Speaker 2: Because there's no because there's no universal I mean, we
Speaker 2: like to think there's a universal morality speaking of the Bible,
Speaker 2: but it's not. And that's why we have we have
Speaker 2: human conflict, which is outside the scope of this conversation.
Speaker 2: We're talking about eliminating the meat economy, so no, no
Speaker 2: killing of animals, and a prof in doctor John's world,
Speaker 2: we don't have. We have animals just living their lives grazing.
Speaker 2: What do we do so, then we would need obviously
Speaker 2: need more crop. Well, I don't we more crops, but
Speaker 2: we still need crops to survive. How do you balance
Speaker 2: the fact that the animals would just eat the crops
Speaker 2: and how would you keep those animals in check from
Speaker 2: eating all your crops.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you know, this idea of wild
Speaker 4: nature basically had ceased to exist because we've we've turned
Speaker 4: the entirety of the world into a kind of prison house.
Speaker 4: Ninety ninety six percent of believe, of all mammals on
Speaker 4: the Earth by biomass by weight, excluding humans, are our
Speaker 4: prisoners a waiting slaughter. Ninety six percent on the entire
Speaker 4: earth of all birds on the planet are our prisoners
Speaker 4: waiting slaughtered. So and the thing is, if we if
Speaker 4: we stopped raising animals, we closed down these speedlots, we
Speaker 4: would be able to reforce the earth that would sequester
Speaker 4: up to But if.
Speaker 2: You let these animals just simply go Okay, you're free.
Speaker 2: Now you're released from this prison that you just said,
Speaker 2: won't they just continue to breed, And if they breed,
Speaker 2: they breed up to the point where they can sist
Speaker 2: in life, which means eating our food. Supply, how do
Speaker 2: you balance that out? If the animals run wild and
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to kill them, John, what's going to
Speaker 2: prevent them from eating all our food?
Speaker 4: I think that you know, it's a serious question to
Speaker 4: ask what we're going to do with the existing animals
Speaker 4: we've brought into them with, you know, uh, sexually reproduced,
Speaker 4: mutilated in order to bring into the world for our purposes.
Speaker 4: That's that's a legitimate question. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 4: we should stop sexually reproducing keeping confining new animals because
Speaker 4: we could, we could shade this out.
Speaker 3: We really could pade.
Speaker 2: This out well, while with the old animals continue to breed,
Speaker 2: and you're not answering the questions like they're just going
Speaker 2: to eat all our food, aren't they?
Speaker 4: They're not going to eat all our food. They're already eating.
Speaker 4: First of all, the food that's being grown. It's not
Speaker 4: being grown for human consumption. It's being grown to create
Speaker 4: profits for you know, pArg now.
Speaker 2: And we also the fact that we like it's profit, John,
Speaker 2: but we we I like a steak, I know you don't,
Speaker 2: but steak, chicken fish foul I'm a big fan. Is
Speaker 2: about ninety eighty to ninety percent of the rest of
Speaker 2: the world. So don't diminish that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, but you know, there's such a thing as
Speaker 4: moral enlightenment, and that's what I'm talking about here. I'm
Speaker 4: talking about You said you like, well I did too.
Speaker 4: I used to like that stuff. But the human talent
Speaker 4: is plastic, it's malleable. I don't miss any of that stuff,
Speaker 4: you know, having made that transition forty years ago.
Speaker 3: Seriously.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you talk to anyone who's actually made
Speaker 4: that transition, they don't look back.
Speaker 3: It's simply right. I mean people, Well, but that's not you.
Speaker 2: That's not all vegetarians are I mean, vegans a different class,
Speaker 2: but not plenty of people who have experimented with that.
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, it's just not for me. I don't
Speaker 2: feel well. I enjoy having maybe less meat, but stillating meat.
Speaker 4: Well, we're talking about different kinds of goods here, right,
Speaker 4: which I mean you're talking about pleasure, you know, having
Speaker 4: an aesthetic preference on the one hand, and I'm talking
Speaker 4: about something that's deeply, deeply wrong, deeply deeply wrong. It's simply,
Speaker 4: deeply deeply wrong to inflict on necessary violence, extreme violence
Speaker 4: on other beings, helpless defenseless intelligent beings is simply wrong
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 2: Then have that conversation with tigers and lions, Well will
Speaker 2: they listen to your will they just eat you?
Speaker 4: Well, as I just said, you know we're not oppo
Speaker 4: gate carnivores and and we can we have a choice, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, how you saying Leonardo da Vinci and Jane
Speaker 4: You mentioned Jane Goodall. Jane Goodall was a vegan, she
Speaker 4: advocated the vegan Was she was she crazy?
Speaker 3: Was she?
Speaker 2: No? But but you think people who eat meat are
Speaker 2: that's the difference. I respect your decision. But do you
Speaker 2: think that I'm some sort of criminal against the world
Speaker 2: because I enjoy a steak? That's crazy?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think. I'm not saying you're a criminal,
Speaker 4: but I'm saying that it's wrong. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 4: that you should think about it and make it and
Speaker 4: do something differently about with your life.
Speaker 3: I do. I think that's that's.
Speaker 4: That's true, And I think it's true that people who
Speaker 4: don't reflect in this matter are missing something very important.
Speaker 4: I mean, I begin my book by saying, Look, people
Speaker 4: think the question of meat and eat animal product is trivial.
Speaker 3: What could be more trivial.
Speaker 4: Right. I'm sure on your talk show you have a
Speaker 4: you know, lots of debates about a lot of really
Speaker 4: important topical issues, right, and your listeners, you know, take
Speaker 4: these issues seriously. This is the one where you cannot
Speaker 4: talk to anyone without them going holistic. If a Vegan
Speaker 4: is in the room and says, hey, here's the system
Speaker 4: of math, violence, of degradation and cruelty, and I don't
Speaker 4: want to participate in that. If we even say that, right, people.
Speaker 2: Find with that. No, I respect your No. I can't
Speaker 2: say for the person who may be listening to this
Speaker 2: right now, y'all get their radio. But I know I
Speaker 2: totally was. I don't think I was disrespectful. I'm challenging,
Speaker 2: but I respect your viewpoint. I understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm not saying no.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you, But I'm just saying that general
Speaker 4: Vegan people get they go. They're very defensive about this
Speaker 4: because they do not want to examine the issues. And
Speaker 4: I just ask people read my book and keep an
Speaker 4: open mind. Just read the first chapter of my book
Speaker 4: and keep an open mind. And I think that what
Speaker 4: will happen is you'll see things a little differently. What
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do is that people to understand that
Speaker 4: this is something that matters. It's not to be dismissed.
Speaker 4: And you know, with bad arguments, you know, I gets
Speaker 4: so many bad arguments, Well what about carrots? Carrots are
Speaker 4: alive too, you know, what about it?
Speaker 3: Or what about uh? You know the line with the gazelle.
Speaker 4: That has nothing to do okay, whether we should keep
Speaker 4: pigs and kill them, there's nothing just what the lines
Speaker 4: do with their business, you know.
Speaker 3: And I'm saying there's nothing to.
Speaker 4: Do with uh.
Speaker 5: I think it does.
Speaker 2: I just think we have a lot of humans, a
Speaker 2: lot of time on our hands and Google and AI,
Speaker 2: and I think we sit around worrying about stuff that
Speaker 2: previous generations probably didn't worry about. I'm not saying we
Speaker 2: can't be better with the environment. We need to and
Speaker 2: and better stewards of the animal kingdom for sure. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't really have much qualms from a morality a
Speaker 2: morality standpoint about eating meat.
Speaker 4: But again, it's not about it's not about let me
Speaker 4: but it's not about eating meat. It's like, how can
Speaker 4: you how can you be in different Scott, How can
Speaker 4: you be indifferent to this incredible violence and pools, because
Speaker 4: that's being inflicted on billions and billows.
Speaker 2: If I eat meat, then I'm mortally implicit. I'm guilty
Speaker 2: of the the you know, quote unquote crime that you're intinuating.
Speaker 2: But hey, I gotta get going. If doctor John Sonda not,
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the conversation, the omnimorous deception, what we
Speaker 2: get wrong about meat, animals and ourselves. Lots of think
Speaker 2: about there. All the best, good luck with the book,
Speaker 2: and thanks for jumping on this morning.
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, Scott.
Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I don't mind. There's a
Speaker 2: certain number of Tofu dishes of actually pretty damn good
Speaker 2: Sechwan dishes are delicious of that kind of stuff. It's
Speaker 2: till you cook. It's like anything. It certainly got a
Speaker 2: lot better, but it's a far cry from well, sometimes
Speaker 2: you just want a steak, but like anything, not every day.
Speaker 2: Will Gas is next. What is happening streaming wise? I
Speaker 2: on Masters this weekend, you got reds baseball, i FC
Speaker 2: is playing and outside of sports and anything worth watching
Speaker 2: on the stream. We'll talk to will Gas or maybe
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Speaker 6: from New York.
Speaker 1: Well, good Marty.
Speaker 2: How's life brother?
Speaker 5: My life is pretty good? How are you?
Speaker 2: What makes it pretty good? In your world?
Speaker 7: I feel like spring is finally springing here.
Speaker 3: In New York City.
Speaker 4: I'm healthy, My loved ones are healthy, you know.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: All right, all the things that make life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty introspective of you know, it's good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: to get the smells of New York are coming back
Speaker 2: to life? Was that I don't know how to describe it.
Speaker 2: There's something I love about the smell of New York City.
Speaker 2: It's it's like it's a combination of exhaust and pollution
Speaker 2: and cardboard and uh stale alcohol. It's like a whole
Speaker 2: but right, all of those weird the weird smells of
Speaker 2: New York. You know, the rats are taking their winter
Speaker 2: coats off. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: So we got lots going on, including this, and of
Speaker 2: course are really we were all taken aback when Catherine
Speaker 2: O'Hara died unexpectedly of course, I remember she's had a
Speaker 2: legendary career obviously, but most recently, I think her biggest,
Speaker 2: arguably her biggest hit Shits Creek and It's run And
Speaker 2: now Dan Levy, who, by the way, his dad of course,
Speaker 2: you know, is and they're both in that show and
Speaker 2: Shit's Creek. But Dan Levy is now back. I saw
Speaker 2: the trailer and it's one of those trailers and I know,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about, will that I don't
Speaker 2: know what to make of it because there's just a
Speaker 2: glimpse of Dan Levy there. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I'm not He looks funny, but I'm not sure about this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's sort of an impossible task, right,
Speaker 7: like writing your follow up to something as hugely popular
Speaker 7: and successful as Shits Creek.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 7: But in my opinion, I think that this is a
Speaker 7: great follow up to it. It's called Big Mistakes, and
Speaker 7: I would say the biggest differences between Shits Creek and
Speaker 7: Big Mistakes are that this show is a little edgier.
Speaker 7: It's more crime and thriller focused, you know, like there's
Speaker 7: a lot of action in this new series in a
Speaker 7: way that Shit's Creek was. I think more like character
Speaker 7: focus felt more or like traditional sitcom. This thing feels
Speaker 7: a little bit more based on like action and high
Speaker 7: stakes and things like that. But that said, at the
Speaker 7: same time, it's also very funny. There are a lot
Speaker 7: of really fun family dynamics at play. So Dan plays
Speaker 7: the older brother. He has a younger sister who in
Speaker 7: episode one shop lists and necklace that ends up really
Speaker 7: biting them in the butt. A bunch of bad guys
Speaker 7: pretty much are on them from the jump after she
Speaker 7: steals this necklace, so that's where episode one starts. But
Speaker 7: they have a mother who's played by Laurie metcalf who's.
Speaker 2: Awesome and everything. By the way, Laurie Metcalfe, you remember
Speaker 2: her from Roseann where Everything's good.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So all of the episodes of season one dropped
Speaker 7: just this week on Netflix, and I had a ton
Speaker 7: of fun watching this thing, so I think it's definitely
Speaker 7: worth checking out.
Speaker 2: Is he a priest or is he just dressed like
Speaker 2: a priest because I saw that in the trailer.
Speaker 7: More No, he he is a priest of like a
Speaker 7: non denominational church, I think, And yeah, yeah, so it's
Speaker 7: also hilarious seeing him in in those vespists at all.
Speaker 7: And then and then of course, you know, struggling with
Speaker 7: all of the things that I guess you know you
Speaker 7: would have to struggle with being a pastor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so it's a it's about a it's
Speaker 2: a family dynamic, then, is what it.
Speaker 7: Is, family dynamic, but but mostly centered around this idea
Speaker 7: that they stole a necklace and now all these you know,
Speaker 7: you know there's a guy who shows up at their
Speaker 7: house at night with a gun, you know, being like
Speaker 7: I need that back or you're going to get it.
Speaker 2: So I got it, got it all right? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then I know, and I'm a big fan of it.
Speaker 2: Hacks on HBO is fantastic. And I was surprised to
Speaker 2: see that this is the final season. Is this the
Speaker 2: third fourth fifties? I can't, I want to say fourth
Speaker 2: season fifties.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I was surprised AT's ending because it seemed like it
Speaker 2: was running really good.
Speaker 7: I mean, I agree with you, and she wins the
Speaker 7: Emmy every single year, Jean Smart. So it's it does
Speaker 7: feel like you know, I have I have like such
Speaker 7: a pit in my stomach, you know, I want The
Speaker 7: first episode of the final season came out last night,
Speaker 7: and it just like it stinks when you love something
Speaker 7: so much and you're like.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's ending.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that that said, I you know, I'm sure that
Speaker 7: you know, they all probably just want to go out
Speaker 7: on top and it you know, that's maybe what the
Speaker 7: decision is here. But yeah, so season five picks up
Speaker 7: exactly where season four left off. Everyone thinks that Debora's
Speaker 7: dead because TMZ ran an errand article that she had died.
Speaker 7: So she come she comes back and is you know,
Speaker 7: trying to come back bigger than ever. And then there's
Speaker 7: something that happens at the very very end of episode
Speaker 7: one where you figure out what the rest of the
Speaker 7: season is going to be about, and it's it's great.
Speaker 7: It's just so exciting to see those two back on screen,
Speaker 7: and the supporting cast is amazing too. I mean I
Speaker 7: laugh out loud when when Meg Stalter is on screen too,
Speaker 7: So uh yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah I saw her stand up and uh I was like, man,
Speaker 2: I'm just not I'm not a fan of her stand
Speaker 2: but you know, the show is absolutely awesome and it's
Speaker 2: funny to talk about art imitating life. Is I don't
Speaker 2: know if you saw this because the premise this season
Speaker 2: is TMS killed her. She was actually dead, but CNN
Speaker 2: just did this with Michael J. Fox. Did you see this?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, can you imagine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like.
Speaker 7: That one in particular, I mean, he's a national treasure,
Speaker 7: so that's a yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that mistake gets made, you know,
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. I mean you're you're at ABC will
Speaker 2: and they have all these you know, obituaries, these dead
Speaker 2: roles ready to go, and you know they have all
Speaker 2: you have an archive basically just keep adding new material
Speaker 2: to it. But that's why, like minutes after a celebrity passes,
Speaker 2: you've got all this, you know, this whole package put
Speaker 2: together describing their life. Because you know, when you're above
Speaker 2: a certain age, you're you know, your best days are
Speaker 2: behind you and you've got fewer sunrises to look at
Speaker 2: the nature of it, especially network level, you guys prepare
Speaker 2: for these things and like somebody, I don't know, somehow
Speaker 2: the side and Michael J. Foxhide and they ran the
Speaker 2: package exactly exactly.
Speaker 7: And when I first started working here and I found
Speaker 7: out that there were just all of these tape pieces
Speaker 7: were ready to run, I.
Speaker 3: Was like, this is terrible. It's so morbid, but you're right, like,
Speaker 3: you know you have to be prepared.
Speaker 5: Can you be a rat for me?
Speaker 2: I would love could you get a Could you email
Speaker 2: me the list of all the bios that you have
Speaker 2: ready to go. I'm just fascinated by who you think
Speaker 2: is going to die soon enough to have a package
Speaker 2: put together in advance of their death.
Speaker 7: Offline, I can send you a couple of names that
Speaker 7: I was very surprised to learn.
Speaker 2: About, Okay, because I think that's fascinating, Like, who do
Speaker 2: you think is going to die? And not necessarily people
Speaker 2: like I don't know, Abe Vagoda or something like yeah,
Speaker 2: there's old people ready to go and they're like, wow,
Speaker 2: I had no idea you had that person on the list,
Speaker 2: Like they're only in their thirties, right, I'm sure there's
Speaker 2: someone out there that's like huh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean anyone who's exhibited any especially erratic behavior.
Speaker 2: It gets added to the list pretty quickly. Yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: Well we got to put a package together for this person.
Speaker 2: Right here. He is Will Gance, ABC New York, our
Speaker 2: entertainment guy. All right, so we have the final season
Speaker 2: Hacks kicking off.
Speaker 3: We have.
Speaker 2: Dan Levy and from Shit's Creek. It's called Big Mistakes.
Speaker 2: That's on Netflix. And if you're a fan of Handmaid's Tale,
Speaker 2: The Testaments is now screaming on Hulu. I am not
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of Handmaid's Tale. I'm
Speaker 2: afraid of it. Those women scare me. I don't like
Speaker 2: the hooded things. They look like weird, like Cobra's or something.
Speaker 2: I want no part of this, but please, for those
Speaker 2: who do, tell me, Yeah, for those who do.
Speaker 7: And there is a big audience of people who are
Speaker 7: into that show. This is of course based on Margaret
Speaker 7: Atwood's novel, and then the follow up, The Testaments, is
Speaker 7: based on the sequel novel to The Handmaid's Tale as well.
Speaker 7: So The Testaments the first three episodes dropped on Hulu
Speaker 7: this week. It is about an all girls' school and
Speaker 7: it's set after the events of The Handmaid's Tale. Aunt
Speaker 7: Lydia is running this school. Who's played by Ann Dowd,
Speaker 7: who's amazing. And then Chase Infinity, the actress who was
Speaker 7: in one battle after another with Leo DiCaprio earlier this year.
Speaker 7: She's the lead actress in this series, so you know
Speaker 7: she's she's great and So for anyone who is into
Speaker 7: the Handmaid's Tale in that world and the women that
Speaker 7: are you know, sort of needing to team up to
Speaker 7: course correct this dystopian America that that is unfolding. That
Speaker 7: is the first three episode shop this week, and it'll
Speaker 7: be one new episode each week on Wednesday night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, considering real life is sort of like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's all that drama and heavy stuff. I need more
Speaker 2: hacks and I need more big mistakes as opposed to
Speaker 2: the Handmaid's Tale. Maybe that's why I'm not Plus, the
Speaker 2: women are scary in that I don't like that whole
Speaker 2: that old wardrobe thing is terrible for me.
Speaker 3: I mean, everyone is gary, but I'm with you.
Speaker 7: It's it's tough to spend an hour of your of
Speaker 7: your week watching something that feels a little too close
Speaker 7: to home sometimes.
Speaker 2: Right right, too much like reality, I guess in some cases.
Speaker 2: All Right, he is Will Gans with two asses at
Speaker 2: will Gans. He's in New York. He is our entertainment guy.
Speaker 2: So now you know what's on the stream this weekend.
Speaker 2: If you're not checking out sports, well all the best.
Speaker 2: Will chat next Friday. Have a great weekend, make it
Speaker 2: the best ever.
Speaker 5: Thank you. So much.
Speaker 2: You two and get me that damn list. I need
Speaker 2: that list. I need the list of people you think
Speaker 2: are going to die soon. And the younger the more
Speaker 2: interesting it is. Old Pen's fine. You know, we've got
Speaker 2: all ones ready to go here at the station. Cunningham
Speaker 2: is on it, Seg is on it. I'm on it.
Speaker 2: We're all on it. There's the list. Mine will be
Speaker 2: rather a short though, I'd be like ten seconds. Well
Speaker 2: he killed time. He talked for three hours. What a guy.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. We've got news on the way
Speaker 2: in minutes here on the Big one seven hundred wws.
Speaker 2: We slipping to the weekend, of course, you know that's
Speaker 2: the streaming stuff that's on if you're not into sports,
Speaker 2: or maybe you're just you sports out. Now the college
Speaker 2: basketball is over, we settled into red season. They come
Speaker 2: back limping home against the Angels here at Great American
Speaker 2: Ballpark after dropping the last two to Miami, and I
Speaker 2: thought for sure, I thought, for sure we'll get into
Speaker 2: this with Austin Ollmore that after that massive come from
Speaker 2: behind ninth inning that they had the other night, I thought, wow,
Speaker 2: now they got the secret sauce. They're able to come
Speaker 2: back now and put six runs up down from to
Speaker 2: nothing to win it, and they lost the last two.
Speaker 2: So who the hell knows what's going on there. There's
Speaker 2: certainly some issues with the Reds, but you still look
Speaker 2: at the standings go, how the hell are they just
Speaker 2: a half guy a game behind Milwaukee. That's a great question.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that with Austin Elmore ten thirty five,
Speaker 2: as well as the Masters too. Of course Masters weekend
Speaker 2: is here. It's kind of like the Indy five hundred
Speaker 2: or Daytona five hundred. You may not be a fan
Speaker 2: of NASCAR or Open Wheel, but those weekends everyone is.
Speaker 2: And this is that weekend for golf with the Masters,
Speaker 2: of course in augusta absolutely gorgeous. I guess the weather
Speaker 2: forecast is amazing. It's going to be spectacular, one of
Speaker 2: the best ever weatherwise, if you're fortunate enough to get
Speaker 2: a ticket and be down there, but even just watching
Speaker 2: on TV, it's absolutely fantastic. So it looks like Rory
Speaker 2: is off to well where he picked off last year.
Speaker 2: Could we have a successful back to back Master's champion
Speaker 2: Royal Malcore. A lot of golf left to play this weekend,
Speaker 2: and that of course on TV as well as well
Speaker 2: as f C SIN Saturday playing. So anyway, more of
Speaker 2: that a little bit. As I said, news in the
Speaker 2: way and in the way, I'm in the way of
Speaker 2: news here seven hundred W other all right, weekend is here.
Speaker 2: God knows we needed heavy, heavy news week. That's why
Speaker 2: on Friday on my show anyway, I like to just
Speaker 2: pump the brakes a little bit. I mean, if there's
Speaker 2: serious things we need to talk about, certainly not beyond that.
Speaker 2: But you know, Friday's like sick break, Let's make it
Speaker 2: a three day week. Idly say so, thanks for joining
Speaker 2: the show at Scott's Loan here on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: This is maybe fits into both coming up next on
Speaker 2: the show because typically this weekend you're gonna have something
Speaker 2: to drink, an adult beverage or two or maybe more,
Speaker 2: god knows, a little chemical yoga. We are funding a problem.
Speaker 2: If you live in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana you don't have
Speaker 2: to worry about, but particular in Ohio, we're kind of
Speaker 2: funding a problem here. So if you're drinking a little bit,
Speaker 2: you're buying your alcohol whatever form that might be in,
Speaker 2: and you are paying taxes on it, and your of
Speaker 2: course paying something called a syntax and politicians love syntaxes
Speaker 2: because then they look at it. It's like free money,
Speaker 2: because you know, we're just tax advice. A little bit
Speaker 2: more and you'll still have your avice. You'll pay more
Speaker 2: for it, and we can do whatever we want with
Speaker 2: the money. Yay, free money. There's a scandal going on
Speaker 2: now we haven't talked about much. It's Jobs Ohio. So
Speaker 2: Jobs Ohio is a state mandated nonprofit. They were created
Speaker 2: this back about maybe about fifteen years ago. I think
Speaker 2: I'll have to look that up, but it was a
Speaker 2: stadium and she said, oh, okay, we need to privatize
Speaker 2: this because we need more economic development. And to this
Speaker 2: to this point, they're operating. Revenue as of two years
Speaker 2: ago was close to two billion dollars and that money
Speaker 2: is exempt from Ohio public records and open meeting lots
Speaker 2: because it's privatized. You know, I'm a big privatization guy.
Speaker 2: But the problem is this is Jobs Ohio just paid
Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars to sponsor four episodes of a podcast,
Speaker 2: but only one episode was delivered and the podcast host
Speaker 2: was the Romantic Interest. Then President Ted Carter of the
Speaker 2: Ohio State university who resigned over that whole scandal. So
Speaker 2: they and it's not about the sixty grand, you go, well,
Speaker 2: sixty grand of a two billion dollar budget is nothing.
Speaker 2: I get that, But this was the one that put
Speaker 2: them on blast, going what's going on here? Because if
Speaker 2: you look at the number of jobs that were created,
Speaker 2: or at least look at the employment rate here in Ohio,
Speaker 2: and it's pretty stagnant, and it's been stagnant for some time.
Speaker 2: And when they announce these number, oh yeah, we're doing
Speaker 2: a looking in those jobs and we're bringing jobs, And well,
Speaker 2: it's who's cooking the books here, because our labor force
Speaker 2: in the state and these are the official numbers after
Speaker 2: jobs of WHI was created since twenty eleven, are hovering
Speaker 2: near two point I'm sorry, close to six million, and
Speaker 2: labor force partuspicions actually declined. Now a lot of it has
Speaker 2: to do with the economy, of course, but our unemployment
Speaker 2: rate is still above the national rate. So if we're
Speaker 2: spending two billion dollars of your drinking money on creating jobs,
Speaker 2: they're not doing a very good good job of it.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about this more. Bob Alt is the CEO
Speaker 2: of the Buckeye in Stuit Marl libertarian type of think tank,
Speaker 2: but that they, along with Dave Yost, working in collaboration
Speaker 2: together to solve this problem. Because you know what, if
Speaker 2: you're buying beer, If you're buying alcohol and your tax
Speaker 2: money is going to allegedly create jobs and it's not,
Speaker 2: we got a problem. We'll get into it next afternoons
Speaker 2: on the Home of the Red seven hundred ww Cincinat.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be an American idiot.
Speaker 2: It's a Scott Flung show on seven hundred WLW. You
Speaker 2: drink a little this weekend, maybe having a couple of pops? Well,
Speaker 2: if so, and I'm going to be there too. We're
Speaker 2: actually funding a problem. Ohio's liquor money is contributing to
Speaker 2: a scandal that you may not have heard about. And
Speaker 2: the agency spending that tax money on the liquor and
Speaker 2: on the beer isn't They're not answering to anybody. I
Speaker 2: guess they're being held unaccountable. What is going on? Robert
Speaker 2: Aldos here is the president and CEO of the libertarian
Speaker 2: leaning Buck Guye Institute. Welcome, How are you, Robert.
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, This is interesting because there's no one more pro
Speaker 2: workforce development than me, I think, in the city, in media,
Speaker 2: and because I firmly believe in that. I do it
Speaker 2: when I'm not here, and I want more bodies in
Speaker 2: the trades because it is the pathway to a great life.
Speaker 2: And there's an outfit called Jobs Ohio and it is
Speaker 2: a state mandated private nonprofit. They created this under Kasik
Speaker 2: and twenty eleven to replace the state agency that was
Speaker 2: handling economic development. They said, look, we can do this
Speaker 2: better in the private sector, and I think you'd agree,
Speaker 2: but both of us series like, yeah, private sector is great,
Speaker 2: it's lean, it's mean, it gets a job done. The
Speaker 2: core mission for Jobs Ohio is to drive job creation
Speaker 2: and then capital investment in the state by tracking business
Speaker 2: and keeping existing ones, and so we compete against other
Speaker 2: states for jobs. Obviously that we find economic development incentives
Speaker 2: to use. The profit from liquor liquor monopoly is what
Speaker 2: it is. And there's site selection assistance and workforce developments.
Speaker 2: I mentioned all these wonderful things, and yet it's in
Speaker 2: crisis right now. There's a scandal going on. So that
Speaker 2: is what Job's Ohio does. Can you lay out the
Speaker 2: argument as to why the state of Ohio is screwing this.
Speaker 3: Up, Well, you know, I think it's pretty simple at
Speaker 3: its base. My mother used to tell me that nothing
Speaker 3: good happens after midnight, So no one should be surprised
Speaker 3: that mischief is happening at an entity that is set
Speaker 3: up to work in darkness. It's unfortunate, but it's not
Speaker 3: surprising when you financially incentivize bad behavior. Do you know
Speaker 3: what happens bad behavior. That's what we've got going on here.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure that your listeners are familiar with the scandal.
Speaker 3: At this point, it rocked Ohio State President Carter was
Speaker 3: essentially granting additional access to a woman with whom he's
Speaker 3: alleged to have had an inappropriate relationship. It resulted in
Speaker 3: sixty thousand dollars in grants from Jobs Ohio for a
Speaker 3: podcast that had very few listeners and created even fewer jobs.
Speaker 3: And you already you already said it. The job of
Speaker 3: Jobs Ohio, It's one job is to is to create
Speaker 3: jobs for Ohio. And and this is not what was
Speaker 3: occurring in this case. Now, I am not in the
Speaker 3: business of making predictions, but let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: If then when accountability comes to Jobs Ohio, this scandal,
Speaker 3: this this scandal involving the podcast, it's just going to
Speaker 3: be the tip of the iceberg because the problem is
Speaker 3: Jobs Ohio has been operating without any accountability.
Speaker 2: And it should be because I mean, you know, Kasik,
Speaker 2: you democratic government, then you have you know, have your
Speaker 2: Republican legislature. I mean they should be keeping an eye
Speaker 2: on each other's thing's been going on since what twenty
Speaker 2: eleven is what I said. And it sounds like we
Speaker 2: need more oversight, which is completely contrary into the way
Speaker 2: we both believe that. You know, you put some guardrails
Speaker 2: in place and you let private industry do it. Was
Speaker 2: you start hamstringing and you know, putting favoring one over
Speaker 2: the other. That's what the trouble is when it comes
Speaker 2: to government. But it sounds like more oversight is actually needed.
Speaker 3: In this well one hundred percent. Well, once again, you
Speaker 3: want to actually give private industry the ability to operate
Speaker 3: at not hamstring it with regulations. When you're dealing with
Speaker 3: institutions that are involved the public trust there, you need
Speaker 3: oversight there. You want transparency, and government should not be
Speaker 3: first of all, I mean I think that there's a
Speaker 3: serious issue with government picking winners and losers. Private industry
Speaker 3: is much better at applying the acid tests and figuring
Speaker 3: out what works and what doesn't. Government has a really
Speaker 3: bad track record at this, And so I think that
Speaker 3: when you have government created entities, which is what we're
Speaker 3: talking about with Jobs Ohio, handing out big sums of money,
Speaker 3: you really need oversight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert Alt, theproof is in what you do right.
Speaker 2: If if Job's allow they claim last year or no,
Speaker 2: maybe two years ago, I guess it'd be two years
Speaker 2: ago that they created over nineteen thousand new jobs, over
Speaker 2: nineteen billion dollars in capital andssessments. They kept and held
Speaker 2: on to almost fifty five thousand jobs statewide, and an
Speaker 2: independent assessment called it in a class by itself. We're
Speaker 2: eighth nationally and employment growth in target industries like logistics
Speaker 2: and healthcare and IT and financial service. However, despite those numbers,
Speaker 2: our labor force in Ohio, which is the true metric
Speaker 2: here we should be talking about here, has barely moved
Speaker 2: since it was created in twenty eleven. We're just under
Speaker 2: six million jobs in labor force participation rate has actually declined.
Speaker 2: The overall economy has something to do that for sure,
Speaker 2: But I look at it and go, okay, well, if
Speaker 2: the needle hasn't moved, that you can talk about all
Speaker 2: these glowing reviews and assessments and the numbers that they
Speaker 2: tout on their website, But if you actually look at
Speaker 2: the real data here, it doesn't look like they've done anything.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I think there are serious concerns. And part of
Speaker 3: the question I have, and I talked about this in
Speaker 3: the off ed that I co authored with the Attorney General,
Speaker 3: is where are we getting those numbers from? Oh that's right,
Speaker 3: jobs Ohio. I would feel much more confident if we
Speaker 3: had a serious outside review of those numbers so that
Speaker 3: we could put a bit more faith in them. And
Speaker 3: you know, someone who actually is really well qualified to
Speaker 3: judge these things is the auditor of the state. And
Speaker 3: my question is why is it that the legislature doesn't
Speaker 3: trust the duly elected auditor of Ohio to do the
Speaker 3: job that the good people of Ohio elected him to do.
Speaker 2: Well Because he has a fiduciary responsibility by oath and
Speaker 2: therefore he doesn't answer to the politicians. He has to
Speaker 2: come up with the actual data.
Speaker 3: Right absolutely, where whereas in the case of Jobs, Ohio
Speaker 3: Jobs to the extent that it has any accountability on
Speaker 3: its numbers, It has its own pays for its own
Speaker 3: audit chooses its own auditor, and that auditor, as we note,
Speaker 3: isn't going to look into some of the political questions
Speaker 3: like the self dealing issue that we saw in the
Speaker 3: podcast Scandle, whereas the auditor of the state as the
Speaker 3: authority and has the ability to go after those sorts
Speaker 3: of issues to make sure that these dollars are being
Speaker 3: spent widely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and jabs Ohio since it's privately funded with the
Speaker 2: liquor profits, not tax dollars. But it seems to me
Speaker 2: it's a tax so I you know, I guess it's
Speaker 2: private public partnership here. But making out like, oh, it's
Speaker 2: completely privately funded, No, it's not. Every time I have
Speaker 2: a sip of alcohol, I'm paying for this.
Speaker 3: I think there's a bit of leisure tomay going on
Speaker 3: in that in that claim that the entire way that
Speaker 3: this is built, I mean, why it's using liquor profits,
Speaker 3: why it's set up as a private entity is one
Speaker 3: of the key reasons is to hide it from public scrutiny,
Speaker 3: is to prevent it from being subjected to public disclosure
Speaker 3: to our our ordinary open meetings and public disclosure laws.
Speaker 3: So yes, as a technical matter, you're not using tax dollars,
Speaker 3: but that were This is a publicly created ententity, a
Speaker 3: government created entity that uses monopoly profits from the liquor
Speaker 3: industry that are bonded against purportedly for the benefit of
Speaker 3: the sidis of Ohio in order to create additional jobs.
Speaker 3: So it should we should make sure that it's actually
Speaker 3: doing that and doing that well.
Speaker 2: Robert Alt from the Buckeye Institute on this Job's Ohio scandal,
Speaker 2: And we're all paying for this. But if you drink alcohol, Hey,
Speaker 2: if you're a teetotaler, go listen to some nice music
Speaker 2: or something. But if you enjoy beer and alcohol, we're
Speaker 2: funding jobs of Hio, which is supposed to be out
Speaker 2: workforce development and keeping and bringing more jobs to Ohio.
Speaker 2: And their mission that they're taking the money and doing
Speaker 2: God does with with it. It's an abject failure right now.
Speaker 2: And this has broken through with the podcast scandal. Then
Speaker 2: you mentioned this is the beginning, Robert. It's sixty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars budget for a podcast and no one's downloading and
Speaker 2: listening to this thing and we spend a ton of money,
Speaker 2: and that is that the smoking gun to the tip
Speaker 2: of the iceberg. Because sixty grand they're operating budget two
Speaker 2: years ago was almost two billion dollars. That's nothing. Where's
Speaker 2: this money going?
Speaker 3: That is a great question, and I don't think we're
Speaker 3: going to get an answer to that unless until we
Speaker 3: actually have greater transparency. But yeah, sixty grand, I agree.
Speaker 3: Is I think that that that is small potatoes compared
Speaker 3: to what we're talking about. But you can look at
Speaker 3: other examples that we know about. You can look at
Speaker 3: something like the Lord's Town plant, which I mean, this
Speaker 3: is something that even pre dates jobs Ohio, the state
Speaker 3: of Ohio had had offered. I think, I think something
Speaker 3: in the ballpark of sixty million dollars in in in
Speaker 3: special subsidies to GM to create to create. Was it
Speaker 3: the Chevy Cruise at that plant or GM ended up
Speaker 3: pulling out? Then jobs Ohio and Ohio entities ended up
Speaker 3: poning up. I believe it was in the ballpark of
Speaker 3: twenty four million dollars for Load's lorgetown motor and they
Speaker 3: counted all the wonderful new jobs that were going to
Speaker 3: be created by Lordstown Motor Not a single car rolled
Speaker 3: off that lot, off that assembly line.
Speaker 2: In your you're and the thing. I lived for years
Speaker 2: in the Youngstown Warren air when moved from upstate New York,
Speaker 2: first moved to Ohio, lived in the in the Warren area,
Speaker 2: and then so I know Lordstown very well. A lot
Speaker 2: of friends and neighbors back there were worked at lord
Speaker 2: and that you know, you're talking about hope for a
Speaker 2: town like Youngstown as well. If we get Lordstown back,
Speaker 2: we're talking jobs and we can finally start to turn
Speaker 2: our economy around. Because even in good economic times, Youngstown
Speaker 2: Warren never gets that memo. And unfortunately, you know, they're
Speaker 2: sold a bill of goods that didn't come to fruition.
Speaker 2: You can't entirely lay that at the feet of jobst Ohio.
Speaker 2: But in this case, I'm looking at their budget. Unless
Speaker 2: we're talking less than sixty percent of the liquor profits
Speaker 2: go to actual economic development, where's the rest going?
Speaker 3: That's a great question, uh, And I think that's the
Speaker 3: question that that's the question that that that all Ohio
Speaker 3: and should be asking. And I think at this point
Speaker 3: it's a question they should be asking their legislators uh,
Speaker 3: in the state Assembly, which is why is it we
Speaker 3: don't know? Why is it that we don't.
Speaker 4: Have better data?
Speaker 3: Why is it that we can't get a greater accountability.
Speaker 3: So I'm pleased that a number of legislators are starting
Speaker 3: to step up. There's there's multiple legislative proposals now that
Speaker 3: are pending that subject Jobs Ohio to greater accountability. And
Speaker 3: I think it's about it's about time.
Speaker 2: Well, I think the why is easily answered. You know,
Speaker 2: the jobs Ohio. Uh, Jobs Ohio was a Sentien's bipartisan right.
Speaker 2: Everyone who goes, oh, we need more jobs, and that's
Speaker 2: something Democrats and Republics Atlanta. But you know what they
Speaker 2: take the money and it's it's basically pork on a
Speaker 2: state level. So you have all these lawmakers it can
Speaker 2: hand out money to with no accountability whatsoever, to get
Speaker 2: re elected and keep their position. That's probably what's going
Speaker 2: on here. It's no different than what happens at the
Speaker 2: federal level with with pork barrel spending.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Look, I understand handing out money is a is
Speaker 3: a very popular thing for politicians to do, and so
Speaker 3: Jobs Ohio I think is very popular in that sense. Yep,
Speaker 3: So but if they're if we're going if that entity
Speaker 3: is going to exist, and it does exist, then it
Speaker 3: needs to have accountability. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We here in Cincinnati, we have very very deep blue
Speaker 2: government in the city of Cincinnati, and Cincinnati is the
Speaker 2: heartbeat that beats our region. We all identify Cincinnatians here,
Speaker 2: Robert and in the governor local government. They do a
Speaker 2: great job of taking you know, hey, we need to
Speaker 2: get those money together and we're gonna, I don't know,
Speaker 2: we're going to solve poverty and we're going to hand
Speaker 2: money out to all these organizations. There's no accountability, and
Speaker 2: poverty still continues, and they just ask for more money.
Speaker 2: And then when you don't, somehow it's racist or biased
Speaker 2: or whatever it might be and insane. Is this any
Speaker 2: different with with Republicans and Democrats and Columbus Uh?
Speaker 3: I think, I think what you're what you're looking at
Speaker 3: and in this situation is the desire to use these
Speaker 3: public dollars UH to draw a new business. My own
Speaker 3: opinion always has been the way that you do this
Speaker 3: is you create a system where everyone gets a fair shake,
Speaker 3: where where we all know and we get to play
Speaker 3: by the rules of the rules of the game that
Speaker 3: actually creates conditions where businesses thrive. But that but to
Speaker 3: your point, yes, there definitely is this this sort of
Speaker 3: approach by politicians that the way that you actually cultivate
Speaker 3: new business is by giving these sorts of these sorts
Speaker 3: of incentives. As long as we have that kind of
Speaker 3: an organization in place, you need accountability to make sure
Speaker 3: because obviously there's there risks in those sorts of situations
Speaker 3: of self dealing, of corruption, of cronyism, and so you know,
Speaker 3: just inherent in that sort of organization you have that risk,
Speaker 3: and so you need those additional guardrails and safeguards and accountability.
Speaker 2: Robert all on the Job's Ohio scandals from a Buckeye institute. Okay,
Speaker 2: there's the Job's Ohio Transparency Act that's also bipartisan. So
Speaker 2: what do you think the odds are that actually passes,
Speaker 2: given how many politicians benefit from people to hand out
Speaker 2: money Jobs Ohio money that there's no accountability for.
Speaker 3: You know, as I said, I'm not in the prediction game.
Speaker 3: I've been surprised one way or another. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's interesting to see an addition to that bill. I
Speaker 3: think even in the last couple of days, we've seen
Speaker 3: additional bills drop. I think there's a lot more scrutiny
Speaker 3: of Jobs Ohio because of what happened with this podcast scandal,
Speaker 3: and I certainly, I certainly hope that the legislature takes
Speaker 3: this theory seriously and provide some much needed accountability.
Speaker 2: All right, So if it passes, is written, it does
Speaker 2: it go far enough? If you examined that it is
Speaker 2: just just a first step towards something a little more fundamental, I.
Speaker 3: Would say it's a good for It's a good first step.
Speaker 3: It provides for a real audit. It makes sure that
Speaker 3: the I believe it's the COO of Jobs Ohio has
Speaker 3: to appear before the legislature and be able to answer questions.
Speaker 3: It makes sure that once again we talked about the
Speaker 3: liquor revenues and how it is that which is how
Speaker 3: Jobs Ohio funds these projects. Recently, Jobs Ohio was re
Speaker 3: upped for I think an additional fifteen years, even before
Speaker 3: it's scheduled renewal. It makes sure that there's greater there's
Speaker 3: greater scrutiny and protocol with regard to the funding stream.
Speaker 3: All those are good steps to provide accountability and checks job,
Speaker 3: so lot.
Speaker 2: Do you feel that there is enough public sentiment against
Speaker 2: this and one demanding answers for this in demanding change
Speaker 2: in order to enact it.
Speaker 3: I think I think there's there's certainly public demand there,
Speaker 3: and I think it's growing. I think at this point
Speaker 3: you're seeing additional scrutiny and additional attention being paid to it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because I think that they're probably
Speaker 3: as I said, I think there probably are greater issues
Speaker 3: under the hood. We just don't know about them. And
Speaker 3: I really think that the podcast scandal is shining the
Speaker 3: light on the problem.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know again, my one prediction is once you actually
Speaker 3: see what's going on, my guess is there's there's there's
Speaker 3: going to be more issues that will come to life.
Speaker 2: Well, you have missed spending, malfeasons, and a sex scandal
Speaker 2: all lumped into the public sector that generally gets the
Speaker 2: public's attention, which in this case is a good thing.
Speaker 2: He's a president and c e O a Buck Guy Institute.
Speaker 2: Foundless for us and that would be Robert Old. Thanks again, Robert,
Speaker 2: have a great day, Thanks so much.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, anytime you get a syntax, and that's
Speaker 2: what this is. Yeah, there's there's less and less accountable.
Speaker 2: I think that's my politicians love syntaxes really was because
Speaker 2: well it's a syntax. So every time I have a
Speaker 2: sip of alcohol, you have a sip of bourbon or beer,
Speaker 2: whatever it is, you pay into this job's Ohio fund,
Speaker 2: and the money's being wasted and people look at it. Well,
Speaker 2: it's not, it's not it's this is a private thing. No,
Speaker 2: it's not. It's essentially a tax on me and you.
Speaker 2: It really is something. Anyway, we'll continue to follow this story.
Speaker 2: We've got a news update happening on this Friday morning,
Speaker 2: and then right after that, Austin Ullmore drops by weekend
Speaker 2: sports lots to talk about, from the Reds to the Bengals,
Speaker 2: losing a player that's been around for a while FC
Speaker 2: and of course the Masters and more. Just ahead seven
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Speaker 2: this weekend. Austin, good morning, how are you, my friends?
Speaker 2: I'm great, Scott, how are you? I'm doing well, on
Speaker 2: a real ninth inning comeback in Miami set the stage
Speaker 2: because you're, hey, they're down to nothing, top of the ninth,
Speaker 2: they get up all of a sudden, boom you McClain, boom,
Speaker 2: double boom, boom, boom, because he looked like a cy
Speaker 2: young winner. They're pitching against and Rightley, So so Red's
Speaker 2: getting six runs like this, and you thought, I thought,
Speaker 2: here we go, they're gonna go on a run. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be double digit wind streak. They're unstoppable, because that
Speaker 2: was the thing, right they came from behind him. They
Speaker 2: lose two straight. How is that possible for the Reds?
Speaker 2: It just it defies the laws of sports.
Speaker 9: I mean, when you look at this this team so far,
Speaker 9: up until that game on Wednesday in Miami, they had
Speaker 9: played really clean baseball. They hadn't committed an error. They
Speaker 9: were doing just enough to find ways to win. And
Speaker 9: that was encouraging. But you wondered, okay, well, what happens
Speaker 9: when they go when they go down? Sure, what happens
Speaker 9: if a starter doesn't perform? Well, what happens if they
Speaker 9: start to fall apart a little bit defensively? And you
Speaker 9: saw that over the last two nights And honestly, you
Speaker 9: can make the argument that that Tuesday game you're referring
Speaker 9: to in which they did come back, that they were
Speaker 9: outplayed in that game by Miami as well up until
Speaker 9: the very end, and Miami kind of gave it to him.
Speaker 9: So it makes you wonder through the first two weeks
Speaker 9: of games, which team are they. Are they that team
Speaker 9: that can put together good pitching and good defense and
Speaker 9: five find ways to win, or are they more of
Speaker 9: the roller coaster that we've seen over the last couple
Speaker 9: of nights, which looks a little bit closer to the
Speaker 9: team we saw last season. And if so, which of
Speaker 9: those teams are we going to see more? And is
Speaker 9: that going to be enough to get back to the postseason?
Speaker 9: And the biggest issue still obviously remains the inability to
Speaker 9: score very much a lord.
Speaker 2: I mean, even before what happened Thursday, oh for ten,
Speaker 2: you know, the worst team in baseball rug out of
Speaker 2: this they can't score any runs, and yet they're still
Speaker 2: went again, They're still a half game back of Milwaukee.
Speaker 2: It's pitching in its defense, yeah, it is.
Speaker 9: It's pitching its defense. The schedule is certainly easy in
Speaker 9: this month of April, and they have a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 9: The Angels are playing pretty good coming into this weekend,
Speaker 9: but the Giants are struggling offensively. Minnesota has gutted their roster,
Speaker 9: Tampa's got some injuries. Detroit is supposed to be one
Speaker 9: of the best teams in the American League. They're off
Speaker 9: to a really bad start, and you've got Colorado coming
Speaker 9: in here. So there are opportunities for this team to
Speaker 9: get going and put some wins up on the schedule.
Speaker 2: But you mentioned it.
Speaker 9: They can't score or they can't hit with runners in
Speaker 9: scoring position, and they aren't putting it together a lot
Speaker 9: of productive outs right now, even when you know, can't
Speaker 9: move the guy over, can't get the sacrifice fly. That
Speaker 9: sort of stuff makes you wonder about their sustainability long
Speaker 9: term on.
Speaker 2: All because I don't think you can sustain this with
Speaker 2: the pitching. And keep in mind too, your ace and
Speaker 2: who knows what's going on. Nicolodolo at this point in
Speaker 2: their defense seems to be okay, but that's not a
Speaker 2: sustainable model for winning.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 9: I mean, it makes it, in one way a lot
Speaker 9: more impressive what they've been able to.
Speaker 2: Really don't take from that because of the.
Speaker 9: Pitching, especially what Louder and Burns and those guys have done.
Speaker 9: And they deserve a ton of credit. And I don't
Speaker 9: know that that who we saw the last couple nights
Speaker 9: is who the Reds are. I mean, even on Wednesday
Speaker 9: night when they lost that game seven to four, they
Speaker 9: had the tying run at the plate in the ninth inning,
Speaker 9: like they were within striking distance. Yesterday was really the
Speaker 9: only clunker. They've had two clunkers. It was the game
Speaker 9: against the Pirates before they left for Texas, and then
Speaker 9: this this game yesterday against Miami. Okay, so hopefully they
Speaker 9: played better at home.
Speaker 2: Really small sample size, at the extremely small sample, and
Speaker 2: five and two you don't have the best start since
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety wire to wear him. Every's happy as
Speaker 2: I can say. And here we are bitching about it,
Speaker 2: and we I mean about it. I think there's something there.
Speaker 2: It's because you got to look at it. Going a
Speaker 2: bucks sixty eight with runners in scoring position is and
Speaker 2: that's dead last by fire and baseball. Will it work
Speaker 2: itself out? Is it a rouster or a roster construction problem?
Speaker 2: Is it just the minute these guys get anywhere in
Speaker 2: near gabp.
Speaker 9: I think there's a couple of ways to look at
Speaker 9: Like you'll never complain about a five and two road trip,
Speaker 9: and I'm not complaining about that now, But I'm wondering
Speaker 9: about their ability to put together a lot of five
Speaker 9: and two road trips if this is going to be
Speaker 9: their offensive issue. And if you think back to last year,
Speaker 9: through the first chunk of the season, they really could
Speaker 9: barely score at all. They had that one game in
Speaker 9: Baltimore they went for twenty four runs, right, and that
Speaker 9: kind of inflated the numbers. They had games of fourteen
Speaker 9: to twenty four and like eleven in the first two
Speaker 9: months of the season. But other than that, they were
Speaker 9: scoring two, one, zero three, And that's kind of what
Speaker 9: we've seen to this point.
Speaker 2: I think after the rain, yeah exactly.
Speaker 9: So I'm not The season is obviously not over, but
Speaker 9: I I just don't know offensively what the Who's going
Speaker 9: to be the person to step up? Like Sala Stewart's
Speaker 9: been awesome, Ellie has had a pretty good season both
Speaker 9: defensively and offensively. He maybe has been their most consistent player.
Speaker 9: It's just is that ever going to change. We saw
Speaker 9: those issues early last year and they were issues for
Speaker 9: the entire season. Can they flip that we've seen.
Speaker 2: This for twenty years I did for the most majority
Speaker 2: of GABP. This has been a problem. Yeah, we have.
Speaker 9: But I don't know that that history is all that
Speaker 9: important right now with this group of players and with
Speaker 9: this manager.
Speaker 2: You think like the ballpark was built on an ancient
Speaker 2: Indian burial ground or something. Is that what I'm not doing?
Speaker 2: We need to do a little curse thing because remember
Speaker 2: before the cut when the Cubs won the World Series?
Speaker 2: Is over, but it was a curse of the Billy
Speaker 2: gou Do we have a curse? I think he hit
Speaker 2: the ball. I thought the curse was over last year
Speaker 2: when Pete Rose died. Honestly, Nope, but I guess not eight.
Speaker 2: But that being said, we did get to the postseason.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is which we hadn't done it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe there's some levels too, and exorcism, I don't I
Speaker 2: have no But the idea this in this size ballpark,
Speaker 2: with the hitting talent that you have.
Speaker 9: Well that's the thing. There's not guys on the team
Speaker 9: that can hit the ball out of the ballpark. That's
Speaker 9: not a team that's built for power. Now those guys
Speaker 9: can't evolve into that. I think Matt McClain could be
Speaker 9: that guy. I think South Stewart is that guy. I
Speaker 9: think Ellie can be that guy. Hell Spencer Stears hit
Speaker 9: twenty homers each the last couple of years, so there
Speaker 9: is something to that. And obviously you bring in a
Speaker 9: u Haaneo Suarez who's still going to hit a lot
Speaker 9: of homers and has to this point. Also, by the ways,
Speaker 9: look pretty good hitting the ball the other way as well,
Speaker 9: So I see the vision. It's just the games aren't
Speaker 9: played on paper.
Speaker 2: Yeah there, and again you know we're not We're not diminishing.
Speaker 2: The successor as of half a half game back is phenomenal.
Speaker 2: We love it right now, streaming early still. But he
Speaker 2: seems to be a runaway favorite for Rookie of the
Speaker 2: Year in South Stuart. I mean he has been on
Speaker 2: a run, like you keep waiting for the cool off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he'll have spots really cool, but sure he just
Speaker 2: his defense has been great and in as bad as
Speaker 2: nothing short spectac and has hit the ball to all fields.
Speaker 9: He's homeward the opposite field, he's homeward pulling the ball,
Speaker 9: He's homeward in the gaps and defensively as a guy
Speaker 9: who really had not played much first base at all,
Speaker 9: has been pretty solid over there. And I love his attitude,
Speaker 9: Like you can tell that losing really really bothers him.
Speaker 9: It drives him nuts, and I think that can raise
Speaker 9: the level of play, especially for these guys who the
Speaker 9: rest of the guys on this team are young, but
Speaker 9: also they don't have that personality that necessarily necessarily matches that.
Speaker 9: And so when you lead through your attitude, I think
Speaker 9: that can have a trickle down effect on the rest
Speaker 9: of the club when they're like, yeah, man, this young
Speaker 9: dude's fired up, he's taking it serious, he's working his
Speaker 9: butt off, he's doing everything the team has asked him.
Speaker 9: That I think can be a positive thing. Plus, you
Speaker 9: bring in a veteran like au Haineo Suarez that can
Speaker 9: help study the ship like clubhouse. Wise, I think that's
Speaker 9: all a good thing and it does make me think, Okay,
Speaker 9: are they better positioned to sustain some of these issues
Speaker 9: with those guys in the clubhouse with a dude like
Speaker 9: south Stewart, who I think the best way to describe
Speaker 9: him is completely fearless. He is not afraid of any pitcher,
Speaker 9: he steps in the box against he's not afraid of
Speaker 9: anything that happens defensively. I think that attitude is important.
Speaker 9: And he's having fun and that's the other thing. It
Speaker 9: looks like he's having a good time out. Yeah, and
Speaker 9: again I think it says a lot about him that
Speaker 9: Terry Francona is like, yeah, I'm putting this rookie as
Speaker 9: a clean up hitter.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And there have been many situations I think Francona deserves
Speaker 9: a lot of credit. Where south Stewart's been the dude
Speaker 9: on bass and Auhinehosuarez has had the chance to drive
Speaker 9: him in, or Elie de la Cruz has been on
Speaker 9: base and salth Stewart has had the chance to drive
Speaker 9: him in. Those opportunities. Eventually, I feel like are going
Speaker 9: to the Reds, are gonna make the most of it.
Speaker 2: And you also have some you know, speaking of offense,
Speaker 2: you also have some room down in Louisville too. And
Speaker 2: that's the question is okay, well, if these pieces aren't
Speaker 2: working up, how soon does Tito go down and start
Speaker 2: calling guys up from down there.
Speaker 9: It's a good question. Re Signs continues to hit the
Speaker 9: ball really, really well. JJ Bledat has hit the ball really,
Speaker 9: really well, and you remember those guys were in a
Speaker 9: camp battle in in spring training to get to this level.
Speaker 9: I think something to keep an eye out on is
Speaker 9: TJ Friedel. TJ Friedel is not making a ton of contact.
Speaker 9: He did have a three hit game the other day,
Speaker 9: but he's there's a lot of swing and miss in
Speaker 9: his game right now, and that's an issue for your
Speaker 9: leadoff hitter. On top of that, he just looks a
Speaker 9: little bit slower out in center field, and so I
Speaker 9: wonder if we'll see more of TJ. Friedl in left
Speaker 9: field and maybe a little bit more of Dane Meers
Speaker 9: in center or Will Benson in center, and maybe Reese
Speaker 9: Hines in center down the road, especially because it doesn't
Speaker 9: feel like Nouelvie Marte is making a lot of progress
Speaker 9: right now. And I think it's a little bit unfair
Speaker 9: to Marte because he's a much better hitter against right handers.
Speaker 9: He has what we call reverse splits where he's not
Speaker 9: as good against lefties, but he is good against righty's,
Speaker 9: and he's kind of been platooning and only playing against lefties,
Speaker 9: so I think that works against him. But he still
Speaker 9: hasn't taken advantage of the opportunities he's been given. And
Speaker 9: so I wonder if the Reds continue to struggle offensively
Speaker 9: and Noelvie continue used to not offer much, if they'll say, okay,
Speaker 9: we're gonna flip re signs in Noelvie Marte, give Reese
Speaker 9: a chance to play center. By the way, one of
Speaker 9: the fastest dudes in the organization has vastly improved his defense,
Speaker 9: would be an immediate upgrade offensively and defensively over Noelvie Marte.
Speaker 9: In my opinion, I think that's something that could happen
Speaker 9: sooner rather than like.
Speaker 2: Which is why tomorrow it's Noelvie marblehood marble bobblehead marble
Speaker 2: Yes Marte bobblehead. Yeah, marblehead marblehead. Uh at Gradepark, does
Speaker 2: I want to get out of the way.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm glad they did it early, gonna it was
Speaker 9: gonna be July, Like, we need to move this one.
Speaker 9: It is a cool bibblehead. I mean, if you remember
Speaker 9: it was the catch last year that saved the season
Speaker 9: against the Pittsburgh Pirates. You know, Marte had a stretch
Speaker 9: last year where he was a beast and you know
Speaker 9: I was, I was drinking the kool aid on Noelvie
Speaker 9: Marte in the last month of the season. He was
Speaker 9: awful to the point where he was bench during the postseason.
Speaker 9: At one point was I thought the future of the
Speaker 9: number two spot in the batting order. I don't know
Speaker 9: what's going on, but I know he's chasing a lot
Speaker 9: of pitches outside the zone and he's not seeing a
Speaker 9: lot of pitches inside the zone. And I don't know
Speaker 9: if there's a patience there, a plate discipline issue there.
Speaker 9: But something's got to change for Marte in the batters,
Speaker 9: all right, So that's in tonight.
Speaker 2: Of course, we've got fireworks at GABP and you got
Speaker 2: Family Discount Day on Sunday, so all in the weather
Speaker 2: looks great, So all is right with the world. I
Speaker 2: will point this out too, that what do you make
Speaker 2: of the city connectors? I will say this. When I
Speaker 2: saw the quote unquote leak, I like, fact, I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of the sea. But then
Speaker 2: I saw it on when they when they put the
Speaker 2: Sizzle Reil out and I saw it on Ellie and
Speaker 2: I went, actually, I kind of like it. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it looks good with the hat in the yeah in the.
Speaker 9: Jersey, and I remember when the leak came out, I
Speaker 9: was like, I got to see the whole thing before
Speaker 9: I make a judgment.
Speaker 2: I like the pin stripes.
Speaker 9: I've always been a big fan of the pin stripe
Speaker 9: cool and I actually really like the sea. I think
Speaker 9: that white version of that City Connect sea. I know
Speaker 9: some people say it looks like a strip of bacon
Speaker 9: or something. I get that, but I think it looks
Speaker 9: pretty sharp. I think it's cool. And I'm glad that
Speaker 9: they didn't like mix and match because we've seen that
Speaker 9: a lot in City Connect where the jersey and the
Speaker 9: pant pants are a dark color. I'm glad they didn't
Speaker 9: like stick with the black pants and they go all red.
Speaker 9: Reds haven't had red pants since I think nineteen thirty six.
Speaker 9: So I think it's cool. I think it'll look good
Speaker 9: at Great American Ballpark, and I'm glad that they kept
Speaker 9: it in the same theme. I was talking to some
Speaker 9: people from the Reds yesterday and they said that the
Speaker 9: Reds were by far the most successful when it comes
Speaker 9: to merchandise sales of any of the Major League teams
Speaker 9: with the City Connect and so to the Red's credit,
Speaker 9: they went to Nike and they said, hey, we want
Speaker 9: to keep it in the family. Here basically the same theme,
Speaker 9: but we would to add some elements and flip the colors,
Speaker 9: and they worked out really well. I think I think
Speaker 9: fans are gonna like that. Okay, cool, Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 9: And I like the old black with the cincion. I
Speaker 9: think that's cool. And but they are keeping those. By
Speaker 9: the way, they're going to wear those on Friday night,
Speaker 9: So tonight they'll wear the all black, Tomorrow wear the
Speaker 9: all nights.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: And they've got the genius of water patch too. Yeah,
Speaker 9: that is me. So Friday night is the black. Saturday
Speaker 9: home games is the all Red?
Speaker 2: All right? Trevino to the I L for a while,
Speaker 2: three letters C E S, three more letters d FA. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, let's switch the Bengals book. A cam Sample
Speaker 2: is no longer a Bengal.
Speaker 9: Cam Sample, who was one of their better run defenders
Speaker 9: over the last couple of years, still left a lot
Speaker 9: to be desired as a pass rusher, had a season
Speaker 9: ending injury of the year before, but overall solid player
Speaker 9: and one of those last players left from that Super
Speaker 9: Bowl team a few years ago. Signs a one year
Speaker 9: deal with the San Francisco forty nine ers. I think
Speaker 9: it's all part of the plan that the Bengals are
Speaker 9: gonna keep going towards ed rushers in the draft.
Speaker 2: Speaking of limping FC Cincinnati, we're not used to seeing
Speaker 2: two and four this time. There grant a lot of
Speaker 2: soccer slash football left to play. Naymar is this guy's
Speaker 2: name them it's n e y, so it's men and
Speaker 2: should be n A Y spells it wrong name anyway, Nemar.
Speaker 9: He's only one of the most popular players in the
Speaker 9: history of soccer. He's like thirty four globally, one of
Speaker 9: the most popular. If there was a point in time
Speaker 9: where it was like Messi, Ronaldo and Naymo. I talked
Speaker 9: with a source yesterday about Neymar. They told me he's
Speaker 9: playing in Brazil. He's hurt every single game, every other game.
Speaker 9: His ankles are completely gone. His ACL was torn two
Speaker 9: years ago. But he would sell a lot of jerseys.
Speaker 9: And I said, that's what I said. I said, I
Speaker 9: hope that's not how f C Cincinnati is operating. And
Speaker 9: he's also an offensive player. And I don't know if
Speaker 9: you've looked at the scores lately, but they can't stop
Speaker 9: people from scoring goals, So I reserve judgment because I
Speaker 9: have no idea. Like the roster at the beginning of
Speaker 9: the year compared to the end of the year for
Speaker 9: f C Cincinnati is always very different, and they've done
Speaker 9: a good job of conforming and adapting over the course
Speaker 9: of the season. So maybe they have a vision and
Speaker 9: potentially neymar is a part of that. That is something
Speaker 9: that I don't yet understand, but it would be an
Speaker 9: exciting moment for a globally popular player like him to
Speaker 9: come here.
Speaker 2: Okay, bar the lead for a lot of people, but
Speaker 2: it's the Masters, Yes, a tradition unlike any other, and
Speaker 2: I think you go back to two thousand and one
Speaker 2: Tiger did it and defended back to backs and we
Speaker 2: haven't had a true pure something like that. Could Rory
Speaker 2: do that because he came out and shot a sixty seven? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 9: Yesterday Fred Couples said that he told his caddie on
Speaker 9: the twelfth hole yesterday, Rory might never lose this thing
Speaker 9: again now that he's won it once and got that
Speaker 9: monkey off of his back. And Rory kind of talked
Speaker 9: about that yesterday as well as like like I felt
Speaker 9: like I could take a breath.
Speaker 2: I felt so much more relaxed.
Speaker 9: And then when I got on the first t I
Speaker 9: felt the nervousness that I always felt, and so that
Speaker 9: made him feel good that like, yes, I'm in such
Speaker 9: a better place, but I still have that fire within
Speaker 9: me to win this tournament. And listen, the Masters for
Speaker 9: the returning champion is there's a lot. I mean, you're
Speaker 9: pulling a lot of different directions on there. He's been
Speaker 9: there for eight or nine days, like working on stuff.
Speaker 9: So hopefully I like Rory. I'm a big Rory guy,
Speaker 9: and I would love to see him go back to back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you. And the thing about the Masters
Speaker 2: real quick, I know we got to go, is it's
Speaker 2: just such a fun event. I know the waste management
Speaker 2: is the one for the fans, but that Power three
Speaker 2: where the kids are playing and Kevin Hart is shorter
Speaker 2: than most of the kids that we're playing, is catting
Speaker 2: for Scotty and let him hit the ball.
Speaker 9: It's just such a fun thing. Yeah, I disagree with
Speaker 9: you one hundred percent. I don't like Kevin Hart. I
Speaker 9: don't want Jason Kelsey. I don't want those dudes anywhere
Speaker 9: near the Masters tournament. I like the mystique of it.
Speaker 9: I like the kind of like the exclusivity, Like, yeah,
Speaker 9: the kids and stuff is fun.
Speaker 2: I don't need to see Jason Kelsey and Kevin Hart. Okay,
Speaker 2: fair enough, I get that that does appeal to somebody. Well,
Speaker 2: that's plus it's a power three. They don't care. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and taking a potter and ship or something for Scotty.
Speaker 2: He's hostin almor today at noon with Pike. What do
Speaker 2: you got.
Speaker 9: Well, we're gonna be doing our check ins with mo
Speaker 9: Egger across the street at Rally House. Mo Is I
Speaker 9: thought he's only about allowed to be at Holy Grail
Speaker 9: and Smoke. Just mo is going to be giving away
Speaker 9: some gift cards to Rally House, So maybe you could
Speaker 9: go gear up with the new across literally right across
Speaker 9: the street, some new Red City connect here.
Speaker 2: Maybe you could gear up there.
Speaker 9: We'll talk to him if Charlie Goldsmith will help make
Speaker 9: sense of what the Reds did the last couple of days,
Speaker 9: and we'll talk to Tommy g about that neymar rumor
Speaker 9: in FC Cincinnati, and we'll do Master's updates throughout the
Speaker 9: day as well.
Speaker 2: Perfect, got a sports minded and.
Speaker 9: By the way, Scott, tonight I will be hosting the
Speaker 9: Inside Pitch what right here on seven hundred WLW on Sunday,
Speaker 9: I've got the Extra Inning Show right here on seven
Speaker 9: hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: I understand and playing the Angels of Anaheim. Yes, that's correct, Okay,
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Speaker 1: Do you want to be an American? You got it?
Speaker 2: You got a laugh whatever might be more than half
Speaker 2: of Americas. Maybe you if you have a laptime you
Speaker 2: ran in the mailware last year, we're in. Here's the
Speaker 2: frightening part about that. A number of people, maybe even you,
Speaker 2: did absolutely nothing about it. Pretty scary. Dasha Milde this
Speaker 2: year she is that c NETS consumer Insights editor joins
Speaker 2: the show once again, Miss Dasha. How are you?
Speaker 10: I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fine because I think I don't have malware
Speaker 2: in my laptop, but I something like eight out of
Speaker 2: ten adults have a laptop, not personal laptop, but that
Speaker 2: is the primary target for cyber criminals. More. You know,
Speaker 2: we used to be PC, a desktop based system, and
Speaker 2: now ourn's got a laptop. But fifty four percent, and
Speaker 2: you study, fifty four percent of laptop owners say they
Speaker 2: have encountered malware in the past year. And how many
Speaker 2: people said, I don't really care, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: try any think about it. That's the frightening part.
Speaker 10: Yeah, twelve percent did nothing when coming to cross malware
Speaker 10: over the past twelve months, and that can actually be
Speaker 10: a really scary thought thinking about how easily malware can
Speaker 10: creep onto our computers and what happens if you don't
Speaker 10: take any action.
Speaker 2: I guess the question would be, you know why it
Speaker 2: is out there? How do you know you have malware
Speaker 2: in your laptop? I guess would be The big thing
Speaker 2: is it is the fact that Okay, fifty four percent
Speaker 2: have it. They didn't you just you don't know what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 10: Yeah, malware can be very sneaky, So we have to
Speaker 10: look at it from just even app downloads to clicking
Speaker 10: links that seem very credible from sources that we may
Speaker 10: even trust. Sometimes it's even just looking as simple as
Speaker 10: it's noticing maybe small glitches on your computer, maybe there's
Speaker 10: software that you didn't download that suddenly one day just
Speaker 10: happens to appear. So it really does come down to
Speaker 10: some of those bigger, more obvious things like noticing your
Speaker 10: computer doing things that it usually doesn't. But sometimes malware
Speaker 10: can be on your computer and you might not even
Speaker 10: realize it, so you really have to be very careful
Speaker 10: consider running even a malware scan seeing if malware is
Speaker 10: on your computer. But just keeping in mind also that
Speaker 10: a lot of these devices nowadays actually have antivirus software
Speaker 10: in those measures built into them, so you don't really
Speaker 10: need to take any additional action when it comes to
Speaker 10: antivirus software. It's really about behavioral and really thinking and
Speaker 10: watching out those red flags.
Speaker 2: Do most providers. Internet service providers have it already in
Speaker 2: part of their infrastructure. I know on my mode and
Speaker 2: my messh system at my house, I have it on
Speaker 2: the Wi Fi right itself.
Speaker 1: Is that enough?
Speaker 10: I would say that in some instances that might seem
Speaker 10: like enough. What we really have to think about it
Speaker 10: is is that the device level, So Windows devices usually
Speaker 10: have Windows Defender, and then mass devices usually have ex
Speaker 10: Protect as well as a number of other security measures.
Speaker 10: So you may be able to find it through your
Speaker 10: Internet service provider. You may also be able to find
Speaker 10: it through your desktop or excuse me, your laptop. Even so,
Speaker 10: it's really seeing what options you have, and if you're
Speaker 10: ever curious, call your INNT service provider and see what
Speaker 10: option they actually do have available and what the features
Speaker 10: actually are. Some oftentimes that we've found is that there's
Speaker 10: the ones that are on your device. Those security measures,
Speaker 10: those anti virus measures are usually enough. What we have
Speaker 10: to start looking at are all of those other things
Speaker 10: that happen outside of viruses, malware, phishing, the terms and
Speaker 10: what the result of those may be. So thinking about
Speaker 10: your identity or your data actually being stolen, or even
Speaker 10: thinking about your password being compromised. Right, so mpivirus software
Speaker 10: is are going to quite protect you from those things.
Speaker 10: So while you already have step one, you have to
Speaker 10: look at steps two, three, and four while you're at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, so that's the worst case scenario. It's not
Speaker 2: my data, my information, all my personal data that's on
Speaker 2: my laft. If I do banking on my laptop, I
Speaker 2: would assume that all that is compromised.
Speaker 10: You should definitely make sure that if you do have
Speaker 10: a device that is infected with malware, make sure that
Speaker 10: you change your passwords. Also want to double check that
Speaker 10: you have by data STEFF protection in place, so that
Speaker 10: if you do actually have your information compromised, you can
Speaker 10: get that alert sooner rather than later and hopefully take
Speaker 10: action to reduce the risk of it actually growing getting further. Right,
Speaker 10: So I would say that making sure that if you
Speaker 10: do happen to have malware or you notice something think
Speaker 10: is off, disconnecting it from your Wi Fi. I almost
Speaker 10: put it in like its own little standbox, right, making
Speaker 10: sure that you have connected it to connected that device
Speaker 10: only to its only guest network, separate from everything else,
Speaker 10: so that you can take the steps that you need to.
Speaker 10: And that's where Windows Defender and other anti virus software
Speaker 10: programs can actually walk you through those steps. And those
Speaker 10: steps may vary, and see it does have a lot
Speaker 10: of really great coverage to help you walk through those steps,
Speaker 10: what type of viruses to look for, but on top
Speaker 10: of that just other red flags to keep in mind.
Speaker 10: So we often look for like the software, which is
Speaker 10: but it's really more to us than that, and our
Speaker 10: experts really dive into that on our side A good bit.
Speaker 2: Dasha Milden from Seeing At she's a consumer insights editor
Speaker 2: more than half of Americans have laptops now, and those
Speaker 2: majority of run into malware last year, and a disturbing
Speaker 2: number a growing number of people did nothing about it.
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about this morning. I think this
Speaker 2: is even more relevant today, Dasha, because of the threat
Speaker 2: that a RAN post is to us, and we know
Speaker 2: that they have penetrated our digital infrastructure. We know that
Speaker 2: they are lurking in the background, and the latest alert
Speaker 2: involves them actually inside our infrastructure like water and electric
Speaker 2: rids and things like the hospitals for example. So the
Speaker 2: Striker attack not too long ago that they are actively
Speaker 2: involved in this. We don't know when they're going to
Speaker 2: launch something they're probing I guess as we speak. But
Speaker 2: you hear that and go, okay, well, that's a government system.
Speaker 2: I can't control that. I can only control my little
Speaker 2: laptop here. How big of concern are those hacks that
Speaker 2: the rangers are putting out to the average person listening
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 10: So I think we should be concerned about any hack.
Speaker 10: I think we should really be very concerned about even
Speaker 10: just thinking about AI. Right the development of AI really
Speaker 10: making it easy to actually create hacks and fishing distemps
Speaker 10: and things.
Speaker 3: Of that sort.
Speaker 10: So regardless of the malware attempt or the hack, or
Speaker 10: the phishing email or even the unusual payment request that
Speaker 10: some people are seeing, even pop ups, we really have
Speaker 10: to think about what are the steps that we can
Speaker 10: tack right now before anything happens in any scenario, And
Speaker 10: that's where we really start to have to look into
Speaker 10: cybersecurity being a multi step approach. Seeing what options you
Speaker 10: currently have. Is your antivirus enough? Do you have antivirus
Speaker 10: on all of your computers, even going back to seeing
Speaker 10: if you have a device at every.
Speaker 3: Ten years old, you might want to double check.
Speaker 10: If that antivirus software is up to date right, or
Speaker 10: even just looking at a lot of these other options
Speaker 10: that I talked about earlier, just making sure that those
Speaker 10: things are in place, so regardless of whatever happened, you
Speaker 10: can be aware a lot sooner and hopefully take action
Speaker 10: that con mitigate whatever it is that has crept onto
Speaker 10: your computer and could kind of derail your life a
Speaker 10: little bit in a way that your data could be compromised,
Speaker 10: your passwords may be at risk, things of that sort,
Speaker 10: and malware attempts can be very sneaky. We also have
Speaker 10: to look for them on our mobile devices too, and
Speaker 10: just seeing what other security measures are available there.
Speaker 2: The top source is far as being exposed to mal
Speaker 2: where you get it from. You can mend many things,
Speaker 2: but typically it's gonna be a phishing email. I think
Speaker 2: that's the number one threat right there. And I've received
Speaker 2: we've all received our shares, you know, a toll for
Speaker 2: a road I've never driven on, some sort of court order.
Speaker 2: Is the new one going around where they misspelled the
Speaker 2: word Ohio And we've seen really bad ones. But how
Speaker 2: much more is AI starting to take over and writing
Speaker 2: that to make it a little more realistic? And if
Speaker 2: that's true, that's the scary part because we kind of
Speaker 2: rely on them sending it for some janky email address
Speaker 2: or some I don't know, some area code you don't recognize,
Speaker 2: not always from an official. If I got something from Verizon,
Speaker 2: for example, I'd pay more attention to it, said Verizon
Speaker 2: and gave me a five digit number as to where
Speaker 2: the text came from, versus some eight six seven number
Speaker 2: that I have no idea what it is, or some
Speaker 2: Yahoo dot Yahoo account that we typically get the alert
Speaker 2: is to that does a scam and it's malware and
Speaker 2: it's fishing with AI involved in that, Now, how does
Speaker 2: that change a landscape?
Speaker 10: AI can be very sneaky and make a lot of
Speaker 10: these attempts a lot more believable. So while we might
Speaker 10: usually look for typos, or we might even be thinking
Speaker 10: about some of the usual red flags, like the fishy
Speaker 10: looking links, things of that sort, AI is making things
Speaker 10: a lot more believable, even when we think about cloning
Speaker 10: our voices, when we think about the way that we
Speaker 10: actually write out some of the things that we're seeing online.
Speaker 10: Let's say that your bank is actually sending you a
Speaker 10: message that can also seem like it came from your bank,
Speaker 10: but it can also actually be AI without typos and
Speaker 10: even with the same naming right. So we have to
Speaker 10: be very very careful and if in those situations where
Speaker 10: we're not certain, calling your bank, calling whoever it is
Speaker 10: that you need to to verify. I actually did this
Speaker 10: with my brother last night, got a very odd email
Speaker 10: and I called him and said, Hey, this is this
Speaker 10: AUG just to you, and he's like, no, that's definitely
Speaker 10: a scarce. And so it's just taking that extra step
Speaker 10: before you click that link or before you download, because
Speaker 10: even just clicking that link can lead to it being
Speaker 10: a very dangerous attempt at dealing your information. So what's
Speaker 10: the really good part about the survey that we're seeing
Speaker 10: and experts are actually really happy about, is that the
Speaker 10: majority of laptop players took action, and one of the
Speaker 10: most common ways that they took action was actually deleting
Speaker 10: or closing the window and just deleting the file.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 3: And what we have to think about is that that
Speaker 3: doing that.
Speaker 10: Without clicking the link, without being curious, right, So just
Speaker 10: getting rid of it right away, that could be one
Speaker 10: way to help you just stop that malware attimpt in
Speaker 10: its act. That is one attempt, but we have to
Speaker 10: keep in mind that can't be curious and click links
Speaker 10: and do anything of that sort. Take another communication as it,
Speaker 10: make that phone call, make sure that it's legit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that basically dashon miltons I'm seen. It is
Speaker 2: multi factor authentication, right, it's MFA instead of like an
Speaker 2: inbound thing where hey, they text your cell number and
Speaker 2: here's the code and you enter it and we all
Speaker 2: you know, another layer. I got to do it, but
Speaker 2: it really really thinks makes things more secure. That's kind
Speaker 2: of like a human way of doing it. As calling
Speaker 2: the person and saying, hey, do you really need money
Speaker 2: as opposed to just clicking a link. It sounds like
Speaker 2: you're kind of describing pop ups there, a pop up
Speaker 2: still a thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to think about that.
Speaker 10: Pop ups are still a thing we usually see, like that,
Speaker 10: we have pop up blackers on our computers.
Speaker 3: You may have those enabled on your laptop right.
Speaker 10: Sometimes it can sneak past and that's something that we
Speaker 10: have to be a little more cautious about. Or you
Speaker 10: may notice that you're seeing pop ups because maybe that
Speaker 10: setting was actually triggered off. So that's something that you
Speaker 10: also might want to go back and check, just doing
Speaker 10: some of those behavioral checks, looking at seeing are your
Speaker 10: firewalls set up right? Is your pop up blacker on?
Speaker 10: Are all of your emails are spam? Are they going
Speaker 10: to your spam folder? Are you flagging them by spam?
Speaker 10: So it really is that, yes, people are seeing these things,
Speaker 10: but we have to remember that we do have other
Speaker 10: measures and features that we can use to actually make
Speaker 10: these things a little less noticeable, but still using guard
Speaker 10: due diligence of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the survey you talked about different ways people
Speaker 2: are getting malware in your computer at least getting access
Speaker 2: to your data. Phishing emails number one or pop ups
Speaker 2: are still a thing. There's another one called branded spoofing,
Speaker 2: and I've seen these before. It looks realistic and they're
Speaker 2: hoping you do business with. You know, for example, if
Speaker 2: I get something from a bank that I'm not banking with,
Speaker 2: I know that that that is false. But if I
Speaker 2: get something that happened to be someone I'm banking, but
Speaker 2: I pay that more attention than oh it's got their
Speaker 2: logo on it must be okay. Branded spoofing is really
Speaker 2: really dangerous.
Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely, even thinking about some of our everyday experiences, right,
Speaker 10: something as simple as a package, we left a package
Speaker 10: for you. That's one that I saw a lot of
Speaker 10: the holidays. Just making sure that you fill out your
Speaker 10: information so that the package can be delivered, that's right.
Speaker 10: And even just looking at other attempts are data, So
Speaker 10: thinking about this whole lane. That's another one that we
Speaker 10: see here. Even just emails for job applications and jobs
Speaker 10: you might be interested in from companies that actually are onesday,
Speaker 10: actually might suit your profile, right, So just making sure
Speaker 10: that you take a very very very close look in
Speaker 10: these cases, like think to yourself have I visited as
Speaker 10: hotly lately?
Speaker 3: Did I deliver?
Speaker 10: Am I actually looking for a package? Just all of
Speaker 10: these things, just really stopping in the act and thinking.
Speaker 10: And you can always get the information and write it down,
Speaker 10: delete it or close the file and then make sure
Speaker 10: that you just follow up and you might that that
Speaker 10: actually can really help you. When it comes to these
Speaker 10: fishing attempts malware, you have to be very mindful because
Speaker 10: they can sneak through even just a simple app download.
Speaker 10: But we have to be very very mindful and look
Speaker 10: at our devices that we spend so much time on
Speaker 10: and say it's something off here, and making sure that
Speaker 10: nothing slips through the crack.
Speaker 2: We've all done it where you're just going through email,
Speaker 2: going to the lead to save open right, and you
Speaker 2: might click on a go okay, that's real. In the
Speaker 2: minute you click, of course, that's when the BS meter
Speaker 2: goes off in your head go no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: that is it. If I click that link and let's
Speaker 2: say it is malware and I go, man, I quickly on,
Speaker 2: you know, block it out or just simply exit out,
Speaker 2: close to close the window. Is it ready too late?
Speaker 4: We really don't know.
Speaker 10: Malware comes in many different forms. So in some cases
Speaker 10: maybe yes. In some cases honestly maybe no. In that
Speaker 10: particular case, here's what I recommend. Do a malware scan
Speaker 10: on your computer. Take the step as though malware has
Speaker 10: already gotten onto your computer. Definitely taking the second look.
Speaker 10: I'm disconnecting it from your WiFi so that other devices
Speaker 10: could potentially not be infected with the potential malware. Right,
Speaker 10: so really just looking at it as doing that viral
Speaker 10: can to see how far has this gone, doing several
Speaker 10: just to make sure that again nothing slipped through the cracks.
Speaker 10: We really have to think of it as taking every
Speaker 10: single step possible, because some things really can get very
Speaker 10: deep down into your computer that you might not realize,
Speaker 10: or that even that your anti virus software may not catch,
Speaker 10: or another malware scam may not catch. So it's very
Speaker 10: very sneaky.
Speaker 3: This isn't a.
Speaker 10: Way to make sure that we like panic or go
Speaker 10: and like do all of these extra steps, but we
Speaker 10: definitely want to make sure that if you have to
Speaker 10: that link run a o worre scam, just making sure
Speaker 10: that you go through take that extra step just in case.
Speaker 3: Got it.
Speaker 2: Finally, HP Apple, I believe are the two big laptop
Speaker 2: manufacturers right now and both have some level of built
Speaker 2: in security. Is that a false sense of security? And
Speaker 2: does it make things worse? And then secondly, is there
Speaker 2: something free you can download at c net that would
Speaker 2: just kind of make sure I don't have anything on there.
Speaker 10: So with HP and Mac or excuse me, Apple, we
Speaker 10: do have to think that, yes, the anti virus software
Speaker 10: protection is already built in, and it actually is pretty
Speaker 10: good based on Seena experts, you really don't need anything
Speaker 10: additional when it comes to anti virus software. However, if
Speaker 10: you would like to download something that is, let's say,
Speaker 10: has additional features like parental controls or things of that sort,
Speaker 10: it is maybe worth looking into an additional anti virus
Speaker 10: software given that your built in protection isn't enough or
Speaker 10: you feel like you need an additional feature. Besides that,
Speaker 10: I was just saying my mom who just got a
Speaker 10: new computer. You don't need newly anti virus software. What
Speaker 10: you have and built into your computer. Just double check
Speaker 10: that it's there, maybe in your settings. But the other
Speaker 10: things that I'll say is this, if you are looking
Speaker 10: at getting some additional software, or even just looking at
Speaker 10: what maldware stands, should I actually use or thinking about
Speaker 10: some of these other tools. Seeing that does have a
Speaker 10: lot of great information based on our experts who have
Speaker 10: tested a lot of these tools to see what's the best,
Speaker 10: budget friendly, which one actually works best for these devices?
Speaker 10: Which one should you actually maybe if you have a
Speaker 10: larger family, you're depending on what you're doing, such as gaming,
Speaker 10: or maybe you spend a lot of time browsing on
Speaker 10: the web. There are free options, but there are also
Speaker 10: other paid Impire virus options along with other tools such
Speaker 10: as password managers, VP and things of that sort that
Speaker 10: we talked about earlier on the call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gotcha. I know this is probably a separate
Speaker 2: conversation and maybe this is the follow up to your
Speaker 2: piece and seeing at Dasha, But what about our phones?
Speaker 2: Do I need that for my phone.
Speaker 10: Right now? As what we have to think about it
Speaker 10: is is that some of these time security protections are
Speaker 10: indeed built into our phones. In most cases, especially some
Speaker 10: of the later phones. We have to think about those
Speaker 10: operating system updates that we often get saying, hey, you
Speaker 10: want to make sure that you download the Limbit software.
Speaker 10: A lot of that is because some of those security
Speaker 10: and privacy updates are often times built into those updates, right,
Speaker 10: but we still have to use the famdy dilligions that
Speaker 10: we would on our laptops as we would our tablets
Speaker 10: and our phone.
Speaker 2: Gotcha, all right? Good stuff to know. Dashaon Milton at
Speaker 2: c at the Consumer Insights Editor. She's our digital friend
Speaker 2: that pops on the showery once a while. Let's scares
Speaker 2: the crap out of us, is what she does. And
Speaker 2: now you know four or four warned is forearmed. Absolutely
Speaker 2: so some good advice. I appreciate you, thank you for
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Speaker 11: Good morning morning, I agree.
Speaker 12: I see the Masters on here in the background. Is
Speaker 12: this a big weekend for you or are you really
Speaker 12: dialed in?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watch a good portion of it, but I'd
Speaker 2: rather be out golf. I'm more like you know, I
Speaker 2: like watching sports, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather
Speaker 2: I've been doing it than watching it. But it's the Masters,
Speaker 2: and you gotta watch the Masters.
Speaker 11: Have you ever gone to a golf tournament?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've been to a few, and it's absolutely fast.
Speaker 2: And the first one I was at was during cod
Speaker 2: well right after COVID and so it was very sparsely attended.
Speaker 2: That was in Charlotte and it was amazing. But I've
Speaker 2: been to obviously Columbus or a jack thing. I've been.
Speaker 2: I've been to a few, so it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 12: I mean, you know me, all of a sudden, I
Speaker 12: went on this golf kick in the summertime.
Speaker 2: No, and I too.
Speaker 11: I went up to the one in Columbus.
Speaker 12: And if you have, if you as in the listener,
Speaker 12: if you've never and you like golf and you've never
Speaker 12: been to a tournament.
Speaker 5: It's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just walk around and get exercise. You know,
Speaker 2: you get fairly close to the players, and yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean I don't.
Speaker 12: I'm kind of the same way with tennis though, right
Speaker 12: I played girl playing tennis. I love tennis, but I
Speaker 12: don't necessarily always watch it. However, when the atp rolls
Speaker 12: around you know where in.
Speaker 2: Person, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 11: Tennis and hunker down, watch some watch some golf. This
Speaker 11: weekend is on the to do list?
Speaker 2: What do you got going on this weekend? What are
Speaker 2: we talking about?
Speaker 11: Okay?
Speaker 12: All right, So after years of market research, and you
Speaker 12: know me, I'm a whiskey gal, you are, I talk
Speaker 12: about this all the time, a whiskey gal. I appreciate
Speaker 12: a really good cocktail and I love hospitality. After years
Speaker 12: of market research, I have finally honed it, honed down
Speaker 12: the best old fashions in Cincinnati and northern Kentucky and
Speaker 12: really focusing in on cocktail bars because there are a
Speaker 12: lot of bad old fashions in the I have a
Speaker 12: full list of criteria as to what makes a good.
Speaker 2: Old that one may ask, why are you going with
Speaker 2: the because old fashions to me, and bourbon drinks generally
Speaker 2: tend to be and I know it's not true, but
Speaker 2: tend to be. People think a little bit more fall
Speaker 2: in winter than spring, and no.
Speaker 11: This isn't all year round thing for me.
Speaker 2: I'm a bourbon person.
Speaker 11: So should should I? Should we put this on hold
Speaker 11: and wait till because.
Speaker 2: With the Masters, I think you want to be talking
Speaker 2: about minjus.
Speaker 11: Know that's next week, that's.
Speaker 2: We should be talking about it. And cheese martini? Is
Speaker 2: that you should?
Speaker 12: Which is a horrible, horrible life decision.
Speaker 11: There's never a moment where I'm like, you know, what
Speaker 11: I want is a pimento cheese?
Speaker 10: Is there?
Speaker 2: I see again, I've been golfing for like ten years now,
Speaker 2: but is there a Master's drink? There should be?
Speaker 12: Right?
Speaker 2: I think there is actually no idea what that I
Speaker 2: know though I don't know.
Speaker 12: I'm trying to google transfusion masters golf cocktail?
Speaker 2: Okay, right? Is the official? What's the official cocktail?
Speaker 11: Want spell cocktail right first? To get it? If you
Speaker 11: had to take a guess, what do you think? Or
Speaker 11: if you had to come up with.
Speaker 3: One, what do you think it would?
Speaker 2: Georgia, I don't know a peach ballini.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 12: What the azalia and azalea azalea? So which vodka, lemonade grenadine.
Speaker 12: So it's basically an adult Shirley Temple with a little
Speaker 12: bit of lemonade daily. There's no tea John daily with tea,
Speaker 12: So this is vodka lemonade grenadine.
Speaker 11: Sounds very refreshing and the grenadine just for colored.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 11: To me, honestly, it reminds me more of a Shirley.
Speaker 11: You need some soda and.
Speaker 2: That's pretty basic.
Speaker 11: That's so sweet lemonade in grenadine.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. You think you have a drink
Speaker 2: like Masters has everything else.
Speaker 11: Okay, this then gets me back.
Speaker 2: And cheese all of stuff to all of sudden something right,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 11: Martini sounds like it should be because it end we
Speaker 11: need to change this.
Speaker 2: Official drink. Okay, let's talk about old fashioned, not this.
Speaker 2: And this is why this is why we never get
Speaker 2: everything done we want to talk about, because we go
Speaker 2: to a rabbit hole.
Speaker 12: This is because we're changing everybody else's way of business.
Speaker 12: And this is why I continue to talk about the
Speaker 12: old fashion because it's the staple cocktail of life.
Speaker 11: Right, we're not talking.
Speaker 2: You got your food pyramid and at the top is
Speaker 2: really it's a cherry.
Speaker 11: It is one hundred proof whiskey. And let me tell you,
Speaker 11: let me let me break down the crater.
Speaker 7: Driving.
Speaker 11: Number one, because of what we just talked about.
Speaker 12: Not too sweet for some reason, so many places make
Speaker 12: old fashions as a sugar bottom.
Speaker 11: We're not having it.
Speaker 12: A And also, you got to make a housemade syrup.
Speaker 12: It's preferred, but also use it sparingly. Number two thoughtful
Speaker 12: whiskey choice. Ideally, it needs to be one hundred proof.
Speaker 12: It's gotta get it's gotta have some backbone. Once you
Speaker 12: get to the eighty proof. I'm like to offset the
Speaker 12: facts facts.
Speaker 11: The whiskey is the star. Choose accordingly.
Speaker 12: Uh, for the love of God, do not muddle an
Speaker 12: orange in your old fashion and put a really good,
Speaker 12: high quality cherry in there. My the cherry should not
Speaker 12: be as vibrant as the ESPN should look like the
Speaker 12: red red like the new Jerseys. No, a luxado cherry.
Speaker 2: Very nice, that's more of that. You got a dark, deep,
Speaker 2: dark teeth flavor. The syrup is a little I like
Speaker 2: to put a little splash of the syrup in.
Speaker 12: The sometimes that could just be your simple syrup. Number
Speaker 12: four high quality ice. Why this is important is because
Speaker 12: you need to keep the integrity of the flavor and
Speaker 12: it melts slower.
Speaker 11: So if you can get that really good crystal clear.
Speaker 12: Ice to that. Number five glassware and presentation. I appreciate
Speaker 12: really good glassware. It's just it's the ambiance.
Speaker 2: It's it's everything what you're looking for, Like Waterford, when
Speaker 2: you say.
Speaker 12: Something a little different, it's gotta have a little pizzazz I.
Speaker 12: Don't you know those big, big, heavy highball glasses that
Speaker 12: you could totally it could be a weapon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm you want a nice thing.
Speaker 12: Something because it's a classic impress me, wow me, which
Speaker 12: then leads me to number six. The vibe of the
Speaker 12: of the tablishment matters. And that's why this is a
Speaker 12: very important list because all of these places have vibe.
Speaker 11: They have they check the boxes in some way.
Speaker 2: Do you think maybe this is why you're still single?
Speaker 1: Am I.
Speaker 3: Pressure?
Speaker 2: I have a boyfriend, she's breaking it down by glass
Speaker 2: or there's he has Brendany has so much pressure on him.
Speaker 2: Does this man know?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 11: No, no, this is why we work because he's a
Speaker 11: whiskey guy.
Speaker 12: So he appreciates, he appreciates my opinion, and he's a
Speaker 12: lot of pressure.
Speaker 11: It's called standards.
Speaker 2: It's got to be between the suite and you should.
Speaker 11: It's called hospitality, and it's called setting the bar high.
Speaker 2: You know what I just need by the time I'm
Speaker 2: ready for a drink. I'm ready for a drink. You know,
Speaker 2: watching them see too but it all.
Speaker 11: Okay, all right, Well, let's let's land the plane.
Speaker 2: The guy with the neck beard in the in the
Speaker 2: denim apron and he's got the ironic heat. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: lighting stuff. He's got a beaker and he's swirling it around.
Speaker 2: And yes, landing the plane.
Speaker 12: Give me the alcohol, and you know how long you're
Speaker 12: actually supposed to stir old.
Speaker 2: Fashion mighty, let's go.
Speaker 12: I'm thirsty three minutes later, Oh lord, pour it into
Speaker 12: the glass. And here are my top five places. Number
Speaker 12: one the aquifer at the New Riff. It's their tasting room,
Speaker 12: third floor. We've talked about it. When that sun shines
Speaker 12: in during happy hour, it is chef kiss.
Speaker 2: It's God's flashlight.
Speaker 12: It has got and you could probably film your Christmas card.
Speaker 12: Get your Christmas card.
Speaker 1: Floor there.
Speaker 11: Number two smoke.
Speaker 2: Justice really that Oh yeah, okay, that's a big bourbon
Speaker 2: barbecue whiskey library.
Speaker 11: When you have a ladder and you have to get out,
Speaker 11: you get a whiskey.
Speaker 2: You know, never leaves there. I know, only to go
Speaker 2: to the grail. Those are the two places you can
Speaker 2: find it.
Speaker 12: Don't get old Fashion. We love grail, but that's that's
Speaker 12: not it. Lost and found ot R.
Speaker 11: It's in an alleyway and over the right. Yeah, if
Speaker 11: you're not looking for it. There's a little neon sign.
Speaker 11: That's that's it out front.
Speaker 12: And actually I have to admit I think this might
Speaker 12: be my top Old Fashion on the list in this
Speaker 12: moment because they's a clear glassware and the ice is clear.
Speaker 11: It's wild, it's good.
Speaker 12: And they use old granddad bottled and bond hand proof
Speaker 12: all right, so it's a good one.
Speaker 7: Huh.
Speaker 11: Wise guy lounge ogr Oh.
Speaker 2: I love I love Wise because you go down, you
Speaker 2: get slice of pizza, and then you go and go drink,
Speaker 2: and then you go down and get another slice and
Speaker 2: you go back up.
Speaker 11: Old fashion and pizza.
Speaker 2: I don't know something about it.
Speaker 11: With the garlic bread and the garlic.
Speaker 2: I'm rather to go right now, just let me bring you,
Speaker 2: just let me know.
Speaker 11: And it's cheap, it's affordable.
Speaker 12: Last One Knowledge Bar in Covington. I talk about the
Speaker 12: spot a lot, but they also just get it right.
Speaker 12: They do use two different spirits, so they have a
Speaker 12: little bit of a twist with theirs.
Speaker 11: And those are my friends that this is a lot of.
Speaker 2: Market research and she is an old fashioned snob.
Speaker 11: Check out my video. I'm proud of it. It's on
Speaker 11: social media.
Speaker 12: It gives a full load on if you also want
Speaker 12: to check out these.
Speaker 2: I've been leaning. I was a Manhattan guy and now
Speaker 2: I'm kind of leaning more towards the old fashion. But
Speaker 2: when I do a Manhattan I put a little splash
Speaker 2: of like Ammoraretto or.
Speaker 11: Like that Amreto. Always.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing is, the old fashion, Billie isn't actually
Speaker 2: bad and like an orange lookur which could be good too, yes,
Speaker 2: but not.
Speaker 11: A muddled orange.
Speaker 12: And the beauty behind old fashions is you really could
Speaker 12: tweak it however you want. Technically, you could switch out
Speaker 12: your spirit. You could do a tequila old fashion for
Speaker 12: the Masters if.
Speaker 2: You wanted to don tequila.
Speaker 11: And so it's a martini with the stuff.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Southwest I guess it would be all right,
Speaker 2: so we have exhausted the old fashioned topic. Yes, of course,
Speaker 2: event wise, what's going on this weekend?
Speaker 12: Okay, this is actually a really fun one. I don't
Speaker 12: know how in the socials you are, but it has
Speaker 12: kind of become viral where men and young men who
Speaker 12: might have daughters are learning to braid hair.
Speaker 11: Which I think is a very good skill. Sure, there's
Speaker 11: just if you're a girl dad, girl dad, Yeah, your
Speaker 11: a girl dad.
Speaker 2: This is great so that I did my daughters. I've
Speaker 2: done that.
Speaker 12: It's not hard, no, it's not, but just taking the
Speaker 12: time to learn it is cool. And Ryan Geist is
Speaker 12: running with this trend, which I think is awesome. And
Speaker 12: they have two nights. It's Friday and Saturday and tonight
Speaker 12: it is actually sold out, but tomorrow as well, and
Speaker 12: they're doing a thing just braids and bruise And it's
Speaker 12: a two hour hands on event where you're drinking beer
Speaker 12: and you're learning the basics of honestly just like braids
Speaker 12: and buns and ponytails. And it's you're just gonna be
Speaker 12: hanging out with probably a lot of other dads too,
Speaker 12: and learning the skill and you get to drink beer
Speaker 12: at the same time and connect with other people who
Speaker 12: might be experiencing the same thing, might be in the
Speaker 12: same stage of life.
Speaker 2: Now, is this white dad hair or black there? Because
Speaker 2: that's a whole different level.
Speaker 11: That's actually a very good question.
Speaker 2: It is a good question.
Speaker 12: Does not in their rundown, it does not say my
Speaker 12: guess is knowing Ryan Geist, they probably have a wide
Speaker 12: range of different hair textures and stuff, so they're gonna
Speaker 12: have a whole bunch of different mannequins and supplies.
Speaker 7: And but you are.
Speaker 2: A whole different level.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, keeping it moist texture is totally different the
Speaker 12: whole thing.
Speaker 11: Mm hmmmm hmmm.
Speaker 12: And props to all girl dads out there who are
Speaker 12: trying to fa holding down the fort. So if that
Speaker 12: interests you and it's something that you have also seen
Speaker 12: on social because it has been trending.
Speaker 11: Ryan Geist is doing this Braids and bruise.
Speaker 12: They still have tickets available for tomorrow Saturday from six
Speaker 12: d eight's just two hours and uh yeah, it's time.
Speaker 11: There's a couple of ti couple participants.
Speaker 2: Dad goes and you know, and your hands on your
Speaker 2: braid and your girl's hair and you're both are drunk.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 11: On a good old fashioned Dad.
Speaker 2: My hair is doing a terrible I don't at right hair.
Speaker 2: Just have a beer.
Speaker 11: It looks a little loteside, it's fine, it looks really good.
Speaker 2: This is where you just throw it up at You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to drive home. I thought you're the designator, Dad,
Speaker 2: I'm seven. You need to learn I'm seven, but I'm seven. Okay,
Speaker 2: there you go. So that's two nights at rhine Geist.
Speaker 2: That's fun.
Speaker 12: Yeah, just I thought that was really fun and something
Speaker 12: different in mys and uh yeah, all right, hang out
Speaker 12: with bucks perhaps nothing right, pretty much good time.
Speaker 2: Pretty much free, pretty much free. Let's talk.
Speaker 12: Well, so okay, so we're actually gonna go over to
Speaker 12: the west side, so the East Price Hill Incline District.
Speaker 11: So do you remember some wine bar?
Speaker 2: Yes? I remember, yeah, so that was there, but I
Speaker 2: remember you mentioning it. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 12: Stable to the community for years and years, and it
Speaker 12: closed in March of twenty twenty five. But now there's
Speaker 12: a new spot that's taking over that same location called
Speaker 12: Around the Table. For a little bit of context, there's
Speaker 12: a scal by. The founder is Julie Dowdy, and she
Speaker 12: had been in o'brienville for a long time, okay, with
Speaker 12: running a business called The Art of Entertaining, and she
Speaker 12: would do interactive cooking classes and all of all of
Speaker 12: the things in hospitality. And she decided to piece all
Speaker 12: of this together and find a new brick and mortar
Speaker 12: which is in that same spot again. It's called Around
Speaker 12: the Table, and tonight is one of the first events
Speaker 12: that she's putting on, and it's called Vine and Dine
Speaker 12: and it's a night owl blues band, but it's a
Speaker 12: dinner jazz, New Orleans jazz. You know me, jazz and
Speaker 12: dinner jazz and cocktails.
Speaker 11: Here we are, uh.
Speaker 12: And tonight's the night that they're launching it. And it's
Speaker 12: gonna be from five thirty to nine thirty and live
Speaker 12: music from.
Speaker 11: Six to nine. They're bringing in a New Orleans French
Speaker 11: quarter vibe band.
Speaker 12: It's gonna be creole food, shared tables, just really relaxed pacing.
Speaker 12: So that's what she wants to bring to the table
Speaker 12: is a different type of dining experience, kind of like
Speaker 12: deconstructing love it what the normal cliche restaurant vibe is.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 11: And this is the start of it all, and you know,
Speaker 11: moving forward.
Speaker 12: She wants to do different styles of Sunday brunch and
Speaker 12: more shared charcouterie type events.
Speaker 11: And I'm sure continuing to bring in different.
Speaker 2: And you had me at the you know, live jazz
Speaker 2: bluespecially blues.
Speaker 1: We gotta do that.
Speaker 11: Will you talk about I know, I know, Michelle.
Speaker 2: Let's go, I won't have fun. No, she lost shell.
Speaker 12: Oh my gosh, she's a perfect Tank's awesome.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we had like maybe fifteen seconds here.
Speaker 2: I know you wanted to plug the zoo. Zoo blooms.
Speaker 12: I know, because we only have so much time, and
Speaker 12: it's throughout the month that you.
Speaker 2: Talked about so much.
Speaker 12: I know, zoo blooms, and we were ranked number three
Speaker 12: best flower festival in America.
Speaker 11: So at the Cincinnati Zoo. So get on it. If
Speaker 11: you've never seen weather looks perfect.
Speaker 12: All of the two they have over one hundred thousand tulips,
Speaker 12: so then it's and then add all the other flowers
Speaker 12: on top of it. It's millions of flowers and it's
Speaker 12: truly a psight to see. And this is the time
Speaker 12: where just everything comes to blossom and the animals, you know,
Speaker 12: it's like they're starting to come out of their little
Speaker 12: little caves and then on Thursdays they do tunes and
Speaker 12: blooms and this is just yeah, it's fun six to
Speaker 12: eight thirty. It's a different band and a different act
Speaker 12: every single Thursday, and it's your chance to just kind
Speaker 12: of launch into the zoo.
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