WEBVTT - 4-10-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.760 Do you want to be an American? 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:05.760 Slowly back on seven hundred, all over on this Friday morning, 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.200 all the usual players in place, Aliy, the Local Loop 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.360 and Allston and Drop Bottle Sports preview for this weekend 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.960 with the Masters and such and the Red's Limping back 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.720 Home and Big Will. We'll talk a little entertainment about 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:20.720 a half hour. It's streaming. I'll begin the show this 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.160 morning something a little bit different, little lighter, since it's 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.400 been so heavy this week, And that is where are 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:29.560 you on meat? The meat debate? More and more people 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.760 every day are leading into a plant based diet. Is 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.199 there something there? Or are they just missing out on bacon? 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.320 Without putting words is mouse? I think my first guest 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:38.840 this morning is going to tell you you're a bad 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:43.280 person if you enjoy things like bacon, Doctor John Samban Matsu, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:44.280 Welcome to the show. How are you? 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:46.839 I'm good, Scott, how are you? 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.360 I'm doing well? All right. So it's a it's a 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:53.440 pretty loaded title, The Omnivorees Deception. What do we get 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.480 wrong about meat? As I'm and I'm a vowed fan 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:58.360 of meat. I like meat. I'm an omnivore. I will 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.560 eat it all I enjoy it. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.960 Sure well, you know I grew up the same way. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.200 But what we get wrong about meat is what we 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:13.000 get wrong about pretty much everything else. The problem isn't meat. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.320 The problem isn't eating animals. The problem is what we 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.240 do to animals, and what we do is we inflict 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:23.399 mass violence against them on them. And you know, I'm sure, well, 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.000 let me ask you, do you do. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:26.120 Care about animals? 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.600 Absolutely? I have a dog love animals. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:33.800 Okay. Now, the thing is when we when we're raised, we. 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.319 Think of dogs and cats as somehow special, you know, 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.840 that they're not like other animals, and it's simply not 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:43.360 the case. Scientifically, Cows, pigs, chickens, sheep, and so forth 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.920 are just as intelligent, just as affectionate, just as capable 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.720 of complex emotions as our own cats and dogs. I mean, 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:50.680 that's that's a fact. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:51.160 Okay. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:57.400 Yeah, So so right now people don't realize it's the 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.440 system that we have in place. The food system is 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:08.040 killing about eighty billion land animals every year, mostly birds animals, 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:11.760 and up to two point seven trillion marine animals every 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:15.040 single year. So there's this enormous mass of violence that 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:19.360 has to happen in order for us to eat our meat. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:20.680 Fine. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.920 And here's why I think most people are fine with that. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.600 And I'm sure you know this is the fact that, well, 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.640 the animal kingdom in itself is extremely violent. You know, 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.560 a lion never gets permission to eat a zebra. Thoes 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:34.480 are zero craps about its fields. Now, as we get 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:39.160 into the manufacturing and the business of food manufacturing, including livestock, 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.760 you have different story. And I understand and I get 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.080 it that there are some moratl implications there, but we 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.960 have that we have because of our higher learning. We 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.160 have something that the rest most of the other animal 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.239 kingdom has, and that's a sense of morality. There's no 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.000 morality that's a human. 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:57.720 Constrict Well yes, no, Actually, the late primatologists France, the 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.680 Wall and others have done enormous research on this and 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:07.840 they've demonstrated that feelings of reciprocity, empathy, altruism in fact 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.720 can be found in many, many, many species. So we, 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.280 I mean humans arrived on as well. Our safety has 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.000 arrived here about or evolved here about two hundred and 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.840 fifty thousand years ago, So we're late comers to complex 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:22.360 emotions like empathy. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.200 So it's true that only humans can. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.840 Talk about an annual, constant, categorical imperative, which is, you know, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:33.919 a moral philosophy. So that doesn't mean that that if 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.880 they said, you know, uh, sentiments of care, sentiments of 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.360 fairness are not found in other species. Right, if you've 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.880 ever lived with two cats or two dogs or whatnot, 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:45.400 you know, there's a kind of negotiating right. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.160 But you're but you're equating livestock with domesticated animals. So 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:50.320 that's a false equivalency. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:52.680 Why is that a false equivalence? 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:54.960 Well, because in the wild that doesn't exist. Now, you 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:59.400 may have primates that exhibit familial type of situations in context. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.120 We see that with the late Jane goodall right, we 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.360 see that all the time. But yeah, when you're talking 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.480 about animals that provide sustenance for the for human beings, 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.800 that's entirely a different matter. I mean, maybe within these 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.880 species itself, or within the particular family, like a family 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.159 of deer. But again, you know, the tiger or the lion, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.839 or the predator, be it a hawk or whatever, it 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.080 doesn't give a damn about the feelings of that animal. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.039 It's it's a meal. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.200 Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, sure, but 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.320 but but as you were saying, you know, we're not 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:33.600 obligate carnivores, right, Lions look lions. If there was a 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:39.200 pack of lions somewhere in Africa that was debating whether 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.400 to eat gizls or not. And this goes to your 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.839 point about humans, you know, being the only species with 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:48.279 the kind of discourse about morality. Right, if one lion 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.720 says the other heye, joe, you know, you know those 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.240 those gazelle's taste really good. But I just I just 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.280 have a bad feeling about it. Like I was looking 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:57.680 into the eye of a casel and I thought, you 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.280 know what, we're not so different being that caseelle happen? 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:00.520 Uh? 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.960 And and the other I mean, and the other line, 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.120 and the other line say, well, you know what, now 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:07.119 they're just so good. 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:08.640 I just want to go on. Now. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.600 The thing is lions have to eat other animals. That's 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.640 just biologically the fact that is not true, and people 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.479 misunderstand what it means to be quote and omnivore. It 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.720 doesn't mean that we have a moral or any other 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.520 kind of license to commit harm against other beings. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.200 It means that we can metabolize. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:30.600 Pretty much anything, including I would point out humans, right, 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.240 I mean cannibalism, Anthropocrates and part of human many men, 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:38.719 hundreds of human cultures for thousands of years, even parts 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:40.239 of the human body. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.840 So we can't simply say, oh, it's natural. It isn't. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.679 It is no more natural than like downloading Netflix or something. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.480 It's a cultural choice we make. So and there's no 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.039 reason why we have to keep doing this. And furthermore, like, well. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.159 Okay, let's let's get an argument at doctor John Soda 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:02.400 Matsu the omnivorous deception, and and the premise here is 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.239 is it the morality of it? Is that the environmental aspect, 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.880 I mean, is is there such a thing as humane meat? 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:09.200 Are you saying that's impossible? 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.680 Yes, I am saying that's impossible. Look, I mean if 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.320 someone came into your you said you have a dog, dog, 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.200 someone came in. Yeah, someone came into your house, and 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.600 you know, blesding your dog to death or stab your 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.599 dog in the throat or stomped on your dogs or 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.599 skin your dog alive. You would be trumped. And that 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.240 was in front of you. You would be traumatized. 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.200 And I would, but you know when I wouldn't if 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.159 I live in a country that in an Asian country, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.080 where that was looked upon as as a meal, like 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:42.280 like how those in India look at cows. Yeah, sure, 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:45.440 it's cultural, and it's it's it's it's it's a it's 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:48.679 a nuance, right, it's it's all fabricated in the human mind. 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.960 We can certainly know, but we can do better by being, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.599 you know, better stewards of the earth in the animal kingdom. Certainly, 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.000 you know, factory farming. We know that there's a lot 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.719 of negative, a lot of bad things that go on there. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.560 But the idea that somehow we just wake up in 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.800 a perfect world we be all vegetarians, isn't Isn't there 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:06.680 also a hazard in that? 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.680 No, there's no hazard in it. On the contrary, the 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.720 animal food economy is destroying. It's undermining the conditions of 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.840 all life on this planet. It's the most destructive force 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.920 on the earth in terms of destroying top soil, in 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:29.600 terms of depleting water, destroying biodiversity, leading cause and massive 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.600 distinction crisis which people don't even talk about. And that's 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.520 even worse than global warming, which animal agriculture is contributing 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.800 about thirty percent of greenhouse gases to. So no, we 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.680 have every intensi to stop this. I mean, vegans and 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.679 vegetarians on balance, if you look at all the medical studies, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.480 live longer, they do better, they have lower rates of 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:50.440 hearts these strokes. 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:54.440 Okay, but aren't many people's food choices literally constrained by 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.240 economics and culture and geography. In a perfect world, you 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.960 could do that, But this is not. It's an imperfect world. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.080 And framing this is an individual moral choice it ignores 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.440 the issues of food access, agricultural pality, governments, politics, and 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.720 all that other stuff. You're ignoring that. You're you're ignoring 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:12.200 what creates this, and you can't do that. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:14.920 No, I can't. I can't agree with that. 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:18.120 I mean that the food insecurity is being created by 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.480 the animal system because it's creating enormous disparities of wealth 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.000 between the north and the south. You talk, you talk 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.480 about people, farmers being thrown off their land and the 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.800 Amazon and so forth, to burn down the Amazon rainforest 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:34.160 by jbs. It suppliers to create uh to provide beef. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:38.840 It's the most inefficient, wasteful way to create food for humans. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.400 But just to correct you, I'm not saying that this 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.120 is a question of individual moral choice, not at all. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:47.640 I'm saying that this entire system has to be abolished, 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.160 all of it because none of it is necessary excuse me, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.120 and all of it is wrong, it's unjust. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.200 But again, you keep getting back to the semantics of 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.680 the human mind of unjust in these and their feelings 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.200 is what they are morality, but it has in the 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:02.679 real world. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.360 Well, listen, I keeap ethics. So I can't agree with 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.360 you on this. I mean, when you know you were saying. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:09.520 I don't know. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.160 Everyone's ethics seem these days to be up to the 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.320 individual the eyes of the beholder, So I don't know 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.280 if there's any Well, that's that's moral high ground here. 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.120 That's called moral relativism. 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.840 And getting back to a question I'd asked you about 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.880 how you would feel if someone attacked your dogs. You said, well, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.640 and you said, if I'd been raised differently in another culture, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.920 I might feel differently. That's true, but it's irrelevant because 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:35.000 your your capacity to using your intelligence and your empathy 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.880 to understand what had what would have been done to 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.680 your dogs. You would understand that was unjust, that was 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.640 wrong to do to your dogs, and it has nothing 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.679 to do with your cultural upbringing. I'm saying that that's 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.280 actual knowledge. That's real knowledge. Whereas people in another culture 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.960 who might have been socialized to see dogs simply as 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:58.400 things be exploited and harmed, they are incorrect. You can't 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.920 compare those two forms of knowledge and say they're equipment. 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:05.319 They're not equivalently your understanding that your dog has a personhood. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:06.160 That is to say, is. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.679 There someone sure if your dog is a human right? 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.120 But that is that is that's a valid insight Scott, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.160 that you have having lived with dogs. That's not true. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:15.120 That's not true. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.280 Okay, But again it's you're taking out. I suppose there 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.640 are people who love pigs or eels or whatever it 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.520 might be, and we look at it going, I don't 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.800 get it. It's not for me, but that that in 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.200 itself is human nature. How do you propose you well, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.880 I guess before we get to that, John, Yeah, the idea, So, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.000 in a perfect what would happen to the animal kingdom? 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.280 We just let the animals run? What would there be 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:41.760 any justification for killing animals? Weather for pleasure? Obviously hunting 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.040 would be out with you, but for a food source? 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.160 Do we just let the animal kingdom run itself? 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.160 Yeah, let's have a moratorium on the farm that we're committing. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.280 I just said that we're killing trillions of animals for 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.120 ye're wiping them out like sharks. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:55.480 You know. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.520 I asked my students sometimes how many humans are killed 0:10:58.520 --> 0:10:59.440 by sharks every year? 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.720 And you know, oh, interestingly. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:02.920 They get that about like they say about you know, 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.079 between ten and fifteen humans are killed by sharks every year, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:10.040 and we think of sharks are scary, dangerous, irrational creatures. Right, 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.440 there's the fiftieth anniversary year of Jaws. But then I 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.120 asked them, well, how many sharks are killed by humans 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:20.760 every year? And they guess, oh, thousands, No, right, Okay, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.320 it's one hundred millions. It's one hundred million sharks every 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.800 year are being killed by humans. And those are intelligent, 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.959 sensitive creatures and we. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.679 Don't even know. People don't even know that because they're considered. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.640 Because of a Steven Spielberg movie. 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.760 Well, Spielberson maybe have a huge had a huge impact, right, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.559 So the sharks beIN supernat But listen, my point is this, 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:51.040 scrusted other animals are interesting, intelligent, They're worthy of our 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.560 respect and our compassion. They're worthy of our love, you know, 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.920 and we shouldn't destroy we can't let me. We can't 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.520 love what we seek to destroy. So yes, hunt fishing, 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.520 we don't need any of them. There's been vegetarians for 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.640 three thousand years, vegan diety. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.360 So it's still only like ten to twenty percent of 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.840 the population. I mean, if your idea was so sound, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.240 why wouldn't we see more of it, especially not just 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:13.760 in developed nations but elsewhere. 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.840 Well it's not as so you know, the best ideas 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.880 went out. Look, Jesus came two thousand years ago and said, hey, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.160 let's you know, love your brother. So they killed him, 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.720 you know, and how have humans been doing since then? 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:26.480 Right? 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.480 Whenever you know, Martin Luther King, hey, let's let's have 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.840 racial equality and end to war. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:33.680 And they killed him too, like right. 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.199 Because there's no because there's no universal I mean, we 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.920 like to think there's a universal morality speaking of the Bible, 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.080 but it's not. And that's why we have we have 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.000 human conflict, which is outside the scope of this conversation. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:50.960 We're talking about eliminating the meat economy, so no, no 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:53.520 killing of animals, and a prof in doctor John's world, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:56.520 we don't have. We have animals just living their lives grazing. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.000 What do we do so, then we would need obviously 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:01.840 need more crop. Well, I don't we more crops, but 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.280 we still need crops to survive. How do you balance 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.640 the fact that the animals would just eat the crops 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.079 and how would you keep those animals in check from 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.199 eating all your crops. 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.920 Well, first of all, you know, this idea of wild 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.319 nature basically had ceased to exist because we've we've turned 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.640 the entirety of the world into a kind of prison house. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:26.080 Ninety ninety six percent of believe, of all mammals on 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.400 the Earth by biomass by weight, excluding humans, are our 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.800 prisoners a waiting slaughter. Ninety six percent on the entire 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:39.000 earth of all birds on the planet are our prisoners 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:43.040 waiting slaughtered. So and the thing is, if we if 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.680 we stopped raising animals, we closed down these speedlots, we 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.720 would be able to reforce the earth that would sequester 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:50.920 up to But if. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.240 You let these animals just simply go Okay, you're free. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.439 Now you're released from this prison that you just said, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.160 won't they just continue to breed, And if they breed, 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:59.959 they breed up to the point where they can sist 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.240 in life, which means eating our food. Supply, how do 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.400 you balance that out? If the animals run wild and 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:07.560 you're not allowed to kill them, John, what's going to 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.599 prevent them from eating all our food? 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.560 I think that you know, it's a serious question to 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.160 ask what we're going to do with the existing animals 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.599 we've brought into them with, you know, uh, sexually reproduced, 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.200 mutilated in order to bring into the world for our purposes. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.720 That's that's a legitimate question. But what I'm saying is 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:31.080 we should stop sexually reproducing keeping confining new animals because 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:32.720 we could, we could shade this out. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:34.440 We really could pade. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.720 This out well, while with the old animals continue to breed, 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.520 and you're not answering the questions like they're just going 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:40.920 to eat all our food, aren't they? 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.400 They're not going to eat all our food. They're already eating. 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.400 First of all, the food that's being grown. It's not 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.280 being grown for human consumption. It's being grown to create 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.880 profits for you know, pArg now. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.040 And we also the fact that we like it's profit, John, 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.320 but we we I like a steak, I know you don't, 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.160 but steak, chicken fish foul I'm a big fan. Is 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.160 about ninety eighty to ninety percent of the rest of 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:04.520 the world. So don't diminish that. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:10.320 Yeah, sure, but you know, there's such a thing as 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.360 moral enlightenment, and that's what I'm talking about here. I'm 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.960 talking about You said you like, well I did too. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.120 I used to like that stuff. But the human talent 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.880 is plastic, it's malleable. I don't miss any of that stuff, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.480 you know, having made that transition forty years ago. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:25.360 Seriously. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.360 I mean, if you talk to anyone who's actually made 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.080 that transition, they don't look back. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.680 It's simply right. I mean people, Well, but that's not you. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.880 That's not all vegetarians are I mean, vegans a different class, 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.440 but not plenty of people who have experimented with that. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:40.840 I said, yeah, it's just not for me. I don't 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.200 feel well. I enjoy having maybe less meat, but stillating meat. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.200 Well, we're talking about different kinds of goods here, right, 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.120 which I mean you're talking about pleasure, you know, having 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.920 an aesthetic preference on the one hand, and I'm talking 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:58.120 about something that's deeply, deeply wrong, deeply deeply wrong. It's simply, 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:02.680 deeply deeply wrong to inflict on necessary violence, extreme violence 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:07.600 on other beings, helpless defenseless intelligent beings is simply wrong 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:07.920 to do. 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.360 Then have that conversation with tigers and lions, Well will 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:13.960 they listen to your will they just eat you? 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.360 Well, as I just said, you know we're not oppo 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.680 gate carnivores and and we can we have a choice, right, 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.000 I mean, how you saying Leonardo da Vinci and Jane 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.280 You mentioned Jane Goodall. Jane Goodall was a vegan, she 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.480 advocated the vegan Was she was she crazy? 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:28.920 Was she? 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.400 No? But but you think people who eat meat are 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.960 that's the difference. I respect your decision. But do you 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.480 think that I'm some sort of criminal against the world 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.920 because I enjoy a steak? That's crazy? 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.760 Well, I don't think. I'm not saying you're a criminal, 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:43.800 but I'm saying that it's wrong. Yeah, And I think 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.680 that you should think about it and make it and 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.000 do something differently about with your life. 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:50.840 I do. I think that's that's. 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.760 That's true, And I think it's true that people who 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.440 don't reflect in this matter are missing something very important. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.960 I mean, I begin my book by saying, Look, people 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.360 think the question of meat and eat animal product is trivial. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:02.560 What could be more trivial. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.240 Right. I'm sure on your talk show you have a 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.720 you know, lots of debates about a lot of really 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:11.240 important topical issues, right, and your listeners, you know, take 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.679 these issues seriously. This is the one where you cannot 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:16.760 talk to anyone without them going holistic. If a Vegan 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.560 is in the room and says, hey, here's the system 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.240 of math, violence, of degradation and cruelty, and I don't 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.399 want to participate in that. If we even say that, right, people. 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.200 Find with that. No, I respect your No. I can't 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:30.879 say for the person who may be listening to this 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.239 right now, y'all get their radio. But I know I 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.280 totally was. I don't think I was disrespectful. I'm challenging, 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.399 but I respect your viewpoint. I understand where you're coming from. 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:41.159 No, no, I'm not saying no. 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:41.720 I appreciate that. 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.760 I'm not saying you, But I'm just saying that general 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.480 Vegan people get they go. They're very defensive about this 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.320 because they do not want to examine the issues. And 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.560 I just ask people read my book and keep an 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.720 open mind. Just read the first chapter of my book 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.680 and keep an open mind. And I think that what 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.119 will happen is you'll see things a little differently. What 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.920 I'm trying to do is that people to understand that 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.000 this is something that matters. It's not to be dismissed. 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.800 And you know, with bad arguments, you know, I gets 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.479 so many bad arguments, Well what about carrots? Carrots are 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.040 alive too, you know, what about it? 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.440 Or what about uh? You know the line with the gazelle. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.960 That has nothing to do okay, whether we should keep 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.159 pigs and kill them, there's nothing just what the lines 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:22.439 do with their business, you know. 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:23.880 And I'm saying there's nothing to. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:24.920 Do with uh. 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:25.920 I think it does. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.520 I just think we have a lot of humans, a 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.720 lot of time on our hands and Google and AI, 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.800 and I think we sit around worrying about stuff that 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.280 previous generations probably didn't worry about. I'm not saying we 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.359 can't be better with the environment. We need to and 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:42.040 and better stewards of the animal kingdom for sure. But yeah, 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.000 I don't really have much qualms from a morality a 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.160 morality standpoint about eating meat. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.159 But again, it's not about it's not about let me 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:52.480 but it's not about eating meat. It's like, how can 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:54.959 you how can you be in different Scott, How can 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:58.280 you be indifferent to this incredible violence and pools, because 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.200 that's being inflicted on billions and billows. 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.920 If I eat meat, then I'm mortally implicit. I'm guilty 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.879 of the the you know, quote unquote crime that you're intinuating. 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.960 But hey, I gotta get going. If doctor John Sonda not, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.800 I really enjoyed the conversation, the omnimorous deception, what we 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.880 get wrong about meat, animals and ourselves. Lots of think 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.520 about there. All the best, good luck with the book, 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:17.720 and thanks for jumping on this morning. 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:19.240 Thanks a lot, Scott. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:21.720 I don't know about you. I don't mind. There's a 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.119 certain number of Tofu dishes of actually pretty damn good 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.199 Sechwan dishes are delicious of that kind of stuff. It's 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.480 till you cook. It's like anything. It certainly got a 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.840 lot better, but it's a far cry from well, sometimes 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.000 you just want a steak, but like anything, not every day. 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.399 Will Gas is next. What is happening streaming wise? I 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.399 on Masters this weekend, you got reds baseball, i FC 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.240 is playing and outside of sports and anything worth watching 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.000 on the stream. We'll talk to will Gas or maybe 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.520 see about that next Friday morning. Scott's Loan Show seven 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:49.199 hundred w O. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.120 Now a man who has entertainment reporting of coursing through 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:03.600 his veins, which makes him nicolity is ABC, well again 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:04.600 from New York. 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:05.880 Well, good Marty. 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:06.800 How's life brother? 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:10.040 My life is pretty good? How are you? 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:11.600 What makes it pretty good? In your world? 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.120 I feel like spring is finally springing here. 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:17.639 In New York City. 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.880 I'm healthy, My loved ones are healthy, you know. 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:21.360 All right? 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:23.919 All right, all the things that make life. 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.720 Yeah, it's pretty introspective of you know, it's good. Yeah, 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.840 to get the smells of New York are coming back 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:30.919 to life? Was that I don't know how to describe it. 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:32.800 There's something I love about the smell of New York City. 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:36.720 It's it's like it's a combination of exhaust and pollution 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:41.880 and cardboard and uh stale alcohol. It's like a whole 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.280 but right, all of those weird the weird smells of 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.960 New York. You know, the rats are taking their winter 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:49.400 coats off. It's unbelievable. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:50.760 All right. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.760 So we got lots going on, including this, and of 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.359 course are really we were all taken aback when Catherine 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.520 O'Hara died unexpectedly of course, I remember she's had a 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.639 legendary career obviously, but most recently, I think her biggest, 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.679 arguably her biggest hit Shits Creek and It's run And 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.600 now Dan Levy, who, by the way, his dad of course, 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:11.399 you know, is and they're both in that show and 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.840 Shit's Creek. But Dan Levy is now back. I saw 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.679 the trailer and it's one of those trailers and I know, 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:19.840 you know what I'm talking about, will that I don't 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:21.280 know what to make of it because there's just a 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.360 glimpse of Dan Levy there. But at the same time, 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:25.959 I'm not He looks funny, but I'm not sure about this. 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.000 Yeah, I mean it's sort of an impossible task, right, 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:34.440 like writing your follow up to something as hugely popular 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:35.960 and successful as Shits Creek. 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:36.359 Yep. 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.719 But in my opinion, I think that this is a 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.720 great follow up to it. It's called Big Mistakes, and 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.800 I would say the biggest differences between Shits Creek and 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:49.920 Big Mistakes are that this show is a little edgier. 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:54.480 It's more crime and thriller focused, you know, like there's 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.879 a lot of action in this new series in a 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.040 way that Shit's Creek was. I think more like character 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.359 focus felt more or like traditional sitcom. This thing feels 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:06.000 a little bit more based on like action and high 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:07.800 stakes and things like that. But that said, at the 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.600 same time, it's also very funny. There are a lot 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.600 of really fun family dynamics at play. So Dan plays 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:15.960 the older brother. He has a younger sister who in 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.879 episode one shop lists and necklace that ends up really 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.800 biting them in the butt. A bunch of bad guys 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.320 pretty much are on them from the jump after she 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.240 steals this necklace, so that's where episode one starts. But 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:32.320 they have a mother who's played by Laurie metcalf who's. 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:34.480 Awesome and everything. By the way, Laurie Metcalfe, you remember 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.840 her from Roseann where Everything's good. 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:37.960 Yeah. 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.840 Yeah, So all of the episodes of season one dropped 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.280 just this week on Netflix, and I had a ton 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.960 of fun watching this thing, so I think it's definitely 0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:49.800 worth checking out. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:51.560 Is he a priest or is he just dressed like 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:52.960 a priest because I saw that in the trailer. 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.960 More No, he he is a priest of like a 0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:01.840 non denominational church, I think, And yeah, yeah, so it's 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.960 also hilarious seeing him in in those vespists at all. 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.679 And then and then of course, you know, struggling with 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.320 all of the things that I guess you know you 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.720 would have to struggle with being a pastor. 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.520 Yeah, all right, so it's a it's about a it's 0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:18.080 a family dynamic, then, is what it. 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:22.399 Is, family dynamic, but but mostly centered around this idea 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.600 that they stole a necklace and now all these you know, 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.160 you know there's a guy who shows up at their 0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:29.159 house at night with a gun, you know, being like 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:30.800 I need that back or you're going to get it. 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:33.119 So I got it, got it all right? Yeah, and 0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:35.240 then I know, and I'm a big fan of it. 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:38.600 Hacks on HBO is fantastic. And I was surprised to 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.919 see that this is the final season. Is this the 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.640 third fourth fifties? I can't, I want to say fourth 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:45.560 season fifties. 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:46.040 Okay. 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:48.480 I was surprised AT's ending because it seemed like it 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:49.680 was running really good. 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.840 I mean, I agree with you, and she wins the 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:57.040 Emmy every single year, Jean Smart. So it's it does 0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.840 feel like you know, I have I have like such 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.359 a pit in my stomach, you know, I want The 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.000 first episode of the final season came out last night, 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:07.600 and it just like it stinks when you love something 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:08.720 so much and you're like. 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:10.040 I can't believe it's ending. 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:13.720 Yeah, that that said, I you know, I'm sure that 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:15.960 you know, they all probably just want to go out 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:19.800 on top and it you know, that's maybe what the 0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:24.600 decision is here. But yeah, so season five picks up 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:28.440 exactly where season four left off. Everyone thinks that Debora's 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.439 dead because TMZ ran an errand article that she had died. 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.760 So she come she comes back and is you know, 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:37.920 trying to come back bigger than ever. And then there's 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.440 something that happens at the very very end of episode 0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:42.399 one where you figure out what the rest of the 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.480 season is going to be about, and it's it's great. 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.160 It's just so exciting to see those two back on screen, 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.200 and the supporting cast is amazing too. I mean I 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.320 laugh out loud when when Meg Stalter is on screen too, 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.560 So uh yeah. 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.600 Yeah I saw her stand up and uh I was like, man, 0:24:58.600 --> 0:24:59.960 I'm just not I'm not a fan of her stand 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.480 but you know, the show is absolutely awesome and it's 0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.200 funny to talk about art imitating life. Is I don't 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.440 know if you saw this because the premise this season 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:12.240 is TMS killed her. She was actually dead, but CNN 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.080 just did this with Michael J. Fox. Did you see this? 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:17.960 Oh my god, yeah, can you imagine? 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:18.720 Yeah, and like. 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.840 That one in particular, I mean, he's a national treasure, 0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:27.000 so that's a yeah. 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:29.280 I don't know how that mistake gets made, you know, 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:31.480 behind the scenes. I mean you're you're at ABC will 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.080 and they have all these you know, obituaries, these dead 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.480 roles ready to go, and you know they have all 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:38.879 you have an archive basically just keep adding new material 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.919 to it. But that's why, like minutes after a celebrity passes, 0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:43.800 you've got all this, you know, this whole package put 0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:47.200 together describing their life. Because you know, when you're above 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.679 a certain age, you're you know, your best days are 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.480 behind you and you've got fewer sunrises to look at 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.639 the nature of it, especially network level, you guys prepare 0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:57.840 for these things and like somebody, I don't know, somehow 0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:00.359 the side and Michael J. Foxhide and they ran the 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:03.480 package exactly exactly. 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.920 And when I first started working here and I found 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.600 out that there were just all of these tape pieces 0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.160 were ready to run, I. 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.840 Was like, this is terrible. It's so morbid, but you're right, like, 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:15.200 you know you have to be prepared. 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:16.919 Can you be a rat for me? 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.200 I would love could you get a Could you email 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.520 me the list of all the bios that you have 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.120 ready to go. I'm just fascinated by who you think 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.560 is going to die soon enough to have a package 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.320 put together in advance of their death. 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:31.639 Offline, I can send you a couple of names that 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.200 I was very surprised to learn. 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:36.560 About, Okay, because I think that's fascinating, Like, who do 0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.840 you think is going to die? And not necessarily people 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:42.280 like I don't know, Abe Vagoda or something like yeah, 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:44.640 there's old people ready to go and they're like, wow, 0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:46.880 I had no idea you had that person on the list, 0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.120 Like they're only in their thirties, right, I'm sure there's 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:53.520 someone out there that's like huh. 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:56.320 Yeah, I mean anyone who's exhibited any especially erratic behavior. 0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.960 It gets added to the list pretty quickly. Yeah, yeah, yes, 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:01.880 Well we got to put a package together for this person. 0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.600 Right here. He is Will Gance, ABC New York, our 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.440 entertainment guy. All right, so we have the final season 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:08.320 Hacks kicking off. 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:08.760 We have. 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.560 Dan Levy and from Shit's Creek. It's called Big Mistakes. 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.640 That's on Netflix. And if you're a fan of Handmaid's Tale, 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.560 The Testaments is now screaming on Hulu. I am not 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.680 I don't know what to make of Handmaid's Tale. I'm 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.800 afraid of it. Those women scare me. I don't like 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.639 the hooded things. They look like weird, like Cobra's or something. 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.800 I want no part of this, but please, for those 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.400 who do, tell me, Yeah, for those who do. 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.760 And there is a big audience of people who are 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.919 into that show. This is of course based on Margaret 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:41.399 Atwood's novel, and then the follow up, The Testaments, is 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:45.680 based on the sequel novel to The Handmaid's Tale as well. 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.200 So The Testaments the first three episodes dropped on Hulu 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.000 this week. It is about an all girls' school and 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:54.200 it's set after the events of The Handmaid's Tale. Aunt 0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.080 Lydia is running this school. Who's played by Ann Dowd, 0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:01.040 who's amazing. And then Chase Infinity, the actress who was 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.240 in one battle after another with Leo DiCaprio earlier this year. 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.399 She's the lead actress in this series, so you know 0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.400 she's she's great and So for anyone who is into 0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.040 the Handmaid's Tale in that world and the women that 0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:15.720 are you know, sort of needing to team up to 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:21.120 course correct this dystopian America that that is unfolding. That 0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.960 is the first three episode shop this week, and it'll 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.479 be one new episode each week on Wednesday night. 0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.000 Yeah, considering real life is sort of like, you know, 0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.840 it's all that drama and heavy stuff. I need more 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:34.040 hacks and I need more big mistakes as opposed to 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.520 the Handmaid's Tale. Maybe that's why I'm not Plus, the 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.400 women are scary in that I don't like that whole 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.320 that old wardrobe thing is terrible for me. 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.920 I mean, everyone is gary, but I'm with you. 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:48.320 It's it's tough to spend an hour of your of 0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.560 your week watching something that feels a little too close 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:51.960 to home sometimes. 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.160 Right right, too much like reality, I guess in some cases. 0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.160 All Right, he is Will Gans with two asses at 0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.640 will Gans. He's in New York. He is our entertainment guy. 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.080 So now you know what's on the stream this weekend. 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:04.880 If you're not checking out sports, well all the best. 0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:06.920 Will chat next Friday. Have a great weekend, make it 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:07.720 the best ever. 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:10.120 Thank you. So much. 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.440 You two and get me that damn list. I need 0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.920 that list. I need the list of people you think 0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.320 are going to die soon. And the younger the more 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.920 interesting it is. Old Pen's fine. You know, we've got 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.080 all ones ready to go here at the station. Cunningham 0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:26.320 is on it, Seg is on it. I'm on it. 0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.240 We're all on it. There's the list. Mine will be 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.040 rather a short though, I'd be like ten seconds. Well 0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.720 he killed time. He talked for three hours. What a guy. 0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.600 Thank you very much. We've got news on the way 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.760 in minutes here on the Big one seven hundred wws. 0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:42.600 We slipping to the weekend, of course, you know that's 0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.000 the streaming stuff that's on if you're not into sports, 0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.640 or maybe you're just you sports out. Now the college 0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.240 basketball is over, we settled into red season. They come 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.920 back limping home against the Angels here at Great American 0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.280 Ballpark after dropping the last two to Miami, and I 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.600 thought for sure, I thought, for sure we'll get into 0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.960 this with Austin Ollmore that after that massive come from 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.960 behind ninth inning that they had the other night, I thought, wow, 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.240 now they got the secret sauce. They're able to come 0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.480 back now and put six runs up down from to 0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.600 nothing to win it, and they lost the last two. 0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:14.720 So who the hell knows what's going on there. There's 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.080 certainly some issues with the Reds, but you still look 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:18.680 at the standings go, how the hell are they just 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.200 a half guy a game behind Milwaukee. That's a great question. 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.360 We'll get into that with Austin Elmore ten thirty five, 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:26.240 as well as the Masters too. Of course Masters weekend 0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.080 is here. It's kind of like the Indy five hundred 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:32.040 or Daytona five hundred. You may not be a fan 0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:36.000 of NASCAR or Open Wheel, but those weekends everyone is. 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.280 And this is that weekend for golf with the Masters, 0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:43.080 of course in augusta absolutely gorgeous. I guess the weather 0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:46.960 forecast is amazing. It's going to be spectacular, one of 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.280 the best ever weatherwise, if you're fortunate enough to get 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.960 a ticket and be down there, but even just watching 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.600 on TV, it's absolutely fantastic. So it looks like Rory 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.040 is off to well where he picked off last year. 0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.360 Could we have a successful back to back Master's champion 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.720 Royal Malcore. A lot of golf left to play this weekend, 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.560 and that of course on TV as well as well 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.560 as f C SIN Saturday playing. So anyway, more of 0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:10.960 that a little bit. As I said, news in the 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:12.720 way and in the way, I'm in the way of 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.959 news here seven hundred W other all right, weekend is here. 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.120 God knows we needed heavy, heavy news week. That's why 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.200 on Friday on my show anyway, I like to just 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.200 pump the brakes a little bit. I mean, if there's 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.600 serious things we need to talk about, certainly not beyond that. 0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.960 But you know, Friday's like sick break, Let's make it 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.080 a three day week. Idly say so, thanks for joining 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.920 the show at Scott's Loan here on seven hundred WLW. 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.480 This is maybe fits into both coming up next on 0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:43.040 the show because typically this weekend you're gonna have something 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.480 to drink, an adult beverage or two or maybe more, 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:50.560 god knows, a little chemical yoga. We are funding a problem. 0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.840 If you live in Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana you don't have 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.720 to worry about, but particular in Ohio, we're kind of 0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:56.600 funding a problem here. So if you're drinking a little bit, 0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.600 you're buying your alcohol whatever form that might be in, 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.120 and you are paying taxes on it, and your of 0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.680 course paying something called a syntax and politicians love syntaxes 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:07.520 because then they look at it. It's like free money, 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.440 because you know, we're just tax advice. A little bit 0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.680 more and you'll still have your avice. You'll pay more 0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:15.960 for it, and we can do whatever we want with 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:19.520 the money. Yay, free money. There's a scandal going on 0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:21.400 now we haven't talked about much. It's Jobs Ohio. So 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.719 Jobs Ohio is a state mandated nonprofit. They were created 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.600 this back about maybe about fifteen years ago. I think 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.400 I'll have to look that up, but it was a 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:31.680 stadium and she said, oh, okay, we need to privatize 0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.480 this because we need more economic development. And to this 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:38.360 to this point, they're operating. Revenue as of two years 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:42.200 ago was close to two billion dollars and that money 0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.560 is exempt from Ohio public records and open meeting lots 0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.320 because it's privatized. You know, I'm a big privatization guy. 0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.560 But the problem is this is Jobs Ohio just paid 0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.480 sixty thousand dollars to sponsor four episodes of a podcast, 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.080 but only one episode was delivered and the podcast host 0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:02.240 was the Romantic Interest. Then President Ted Carter of the 0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.120 Ohio State university who resigned over that whole scandal. So 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:06.920 they and it's not about the sixty grand, you go, well, 0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.080 sixty grand of a two billion dollar budget is nothing. 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.560 I get that, But this was the one that put 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.680 them on blast, going what's going on here? Because if 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.840 you look at the number of jobs that were created, 0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.400 or at least look at the employment rate here in Ohio, 0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.560 and it's pretty stagnant, and it's been stagnant for some time. 0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.560 And when they announce these number, oh yeah, we're doing 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:27.760 a looking in those jobs and we're bringing jobs, And well, 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.600 it's who's cooking the books here, because our labor force 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.920 in the state and these are the official numbers after 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:37.120 jobs of WHI was created since twenty eleven, are hovering 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.920 near two point I'm sorry, close to six million, and 0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.200 labor force partuspicions actually declined. Now a lot of it has 0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:45.960 to do with the economy, of course, but our unemployment 0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.360 rate is still above the national rate. So if we're 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.600 spending two billion dollars of your drinking money on creating jobs, 0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.440 they're not doing a very good good job of it. 0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.280 We'll talk about this more. Bob Alt is the CEO 0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.800 of the Buckeye in Stuit Marl libertarian type of think tank, 0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:03.400 but that they, along with Dave Yost, working in collaboration 0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.479 together to solve this problem. Because you know what, if 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.719 you're buying beer, If you're buying alcohol and your tax 0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.680 money is going to allegedly create jobs and it's not, 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:13.600 we got a problem. We'll get into it next afternoons 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.760 on the Home of the Red seven hundred ww Cincinat. 0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.040 I don't want to be an American idiot. 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.480 It's a Scott Flung show on seven hundred WLW. You 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.720 drink a little this weekend, maybe having a couple of pops? Well, 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.080 if so, and I'm going to be there too. We're 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:32.279 actually funding a problem. Ohio's liquor money is contributing to 0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.439 a scandal that you may not have heard about. And 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.520 the agency spending that tax money on the liquor and 0:34:37.560 --> 0:34:41.400 on the beer isn't They're not answering to anybody. I 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.279 guess they're being held unaccountable. What is going on? Robert 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.560 Aldos here is the president and CEO of the libertarian 0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.959 leaning Buck Guye Institute. Welcome, How are you, Robert. 0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:53.279 I'm doing great, Thanks for having me on. 0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.080 Yeah, This is interesting because there's no one more pro 0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.960 workforce development than me, I think, in the city, in media, 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.200 and because I firmly believe in that. I do it 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.440 when I'm not here, and I want more bodies in 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:08.320 the trades because it is the pathway to a great life. 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.360 And there's an outfit called Jobs Ohio and it is 0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:15.160 a state mandated private nonprofit. They created this under Kasik 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:18.160 and twenty eleven to replace the state agency that was 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.480 handling economic development. They said, look, we can do this 0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.720 better in the private sector, and I think you'd agree, 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:25.280 but both of us series like, yeah, private sector is great, 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.640 it's lean, it's mean, it gets a job done. The 0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:30.560 core mission for Jobs Ohio is to drive job creation 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.520 and then capital investment in the state by tracking business 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.640 and keeping existing ones, and so we compete against other 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.760 states for jobs. Obviously that we find economic development incentives 0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:44.520 to use. The profit from liquor liquor monopoly is what 0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:48.160 it is. And there's site selection assistance and workforce developments. 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.160 I mentioned all these wonderful things, and yet it's in 0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.560 crisis right now. There's a scandal going on. So that 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.239 is what Job's Ohio does. Can you lay out the 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.600 argument as to why the state of Ohio is screwing this. 0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:04.319 Up, Well, you know, I think it's pretty simple at 0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:07.040 its base. My mother used to tell me that nothing 0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:10.600 good happens after midnight, So no one should be surprised 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.279 that mischief is happening at an entity that is set 0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.960 up to work in darkness. It's unfortunate, but it's not 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.759 surprising when you financially incentivize bad behavior. Do you know 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:24.600 what happens bad behavior. That's what we've got going on here. 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:29.560 So I'm sure that your listeners are familiar with the scandal. 0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:34.960 At this point, it rocked Ohio State President Carter was 0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:41.600 essentially granting additional access to a woman with whom he's 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:45.200 alleged to have had an inappropriate relationship. It resulted in 0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:49.200 sixty thousand dollars in grants from Jobs Ohio for a 0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:54.520 podcast that had very few listeners and created even fewer jobs. 0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.520 And you already you already said it. The job of 0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:01.440 Jobs Ohio, It's one job is to is to create 0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.960 jobs for Ohio. And and this is not what was 0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.160 occurring in this case. Now, I am not in the 0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:12.640 business of making predictions, but let me tell you something. 0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:17.200 If then when accountability comes to Jobs Ohio, this scandal, 0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.880 this this scandal involving the podcast, it's just going to 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.520 be the tip of the iceberg because the problem is 0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:29.360 Jobs Ohio has been operating without any accountability. 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.280 And it should be because I mean, you know, Kasik, 0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.440 you democratic government, then you have you know, have your 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.000 Republican legislature. I mean they should be keeping an eye 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:39.719 on each other's thing's been going on since what twenty 0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.719 eleven is what I said. And it sounds like we 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:46.799 need more oversight, which is completely contrary into the way 0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:50.200 we both believe that. You know, you put some guardrails 0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.160 in place and you let private industry do it. Was 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:55.600 you start hamstringing and you know, putting favoring one over 0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:57.080 the other. That's what the trouble is when it comes 0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.920 to government. But it sounds like more oversight is actually needed. 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:05.600 In this well one hundred percent. Well, once again, you 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:09.880 want to actually give private industry the ability to operate 0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.440 at not hamstring it with regulations. When you're dealing with 0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:17.359 institutions that are involved the public trust there, you need 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.840 oversight there. You want transparency, and government should not be 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:23.680 first of all, I mean I think that there's a 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.400 serious issue with government picking winners and losers. Private industry 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:31.320 is much better at applying the acid tests and figuring 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:34.200 out what works and what doesn't. Government has a really 0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:36.399 bad track record at this, And so I think that 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:40.520 when you have government created entities, which is what we're 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.760 talking about with Jobs Ohio, handing out big sums of money, 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:45.560 you really need oversight. 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.640 Yeah, Robert Alt, theproof is in what you do right. 0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:51.440 If if Job's allow they claim last year or no, 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:53.520 maybe two years ago, I guess it'd be two years 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:57.919 ago that they created over nineteen thousand new jobs, over 0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:01.799 nineteen billion dollars in capital andssessments. They kept and held 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:05.680 on to almost fifty five thousand jobs statewide, and an 0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:09.359 independent assessment called it in a class by itself. We're 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:13.120 eighth nationally and employment growth in target industries like logistics 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:17.240 and healthcare and IT and financial service. However, despite those numbers, 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:19.600 our labor force in Ohio, which is the true metric 0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:21.800 here we should be talking about here, has barely moved 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:24.640 since it was created in twenty eleven. We're just under 0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:28.240 six million jobs in labor force participation rate has actually declined. 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.520 The overall economy has something to do that for sure, 0:39:30.600 --> 0:39:33.400 But I look at it and go, okay, well, if 0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.719 the needle hasn't moved, that you can talk about all 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:38.920 these glowing reviews and assessments and the numbers that they 0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:40.960 tout on their website, But if you actually look at 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.800 the real data here, it doesn't look like they've done anything. 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:49.000 Absolutely, I think there are serious concerns. And part of 0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.279 the question I have, and I talked about this in 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.520 the off ed that I co authored with the Attorney General, 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.520 is where are we getting those numbers from? Oh that's right, 0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:04.080 jobs Ohio. I would feel much more confident if we 0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:08.400 had a serious outside review of those numbers so that 0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.400 we could put a bit more faith in them. And 0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.480 you know, someone who actually is really well qualified to 0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.520 judge these things is the auditor of the state. And 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:20.680 my question is why is it that the legislature doesn't 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:24.279 trust the duly elected auditor of Ohio to do the 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:27.320 job that the good people of Ohio elected him to do. 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:30.799 Well Because he has a fiduciary responsibility by oath and 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.200 therefore he doesn't answer to the politicians. He has to 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:34.760 come up with the actual data. 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:40.000 Right absolutely, where whereas in the case of Jobs, Ohio 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:45.279 Jobs to the extent that it has any accountability on 0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:49.680 its numbers, It has its own pays for its own 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:54.200 audit chooses its own auditor, and that auditor, as we note, 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:57.280 isn't going to look into some of the political questions 0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.160 like the self dealing issue that we saw in the 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:04.239 podcast Scandle, whereas the auditor of the state as the 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.200 authority and has the ability to go after those sorts 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.200 of issues to make sure that these dollars are being 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:11.200 spent widely. 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:14.440 Yeah, and jabs Ohio since it's privately funded with the 0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:18.799 liquor profits, not tax dollars. But it seems to me 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.000 it's a tax so I you know, I guess it's 0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.839 private public partnership here. But making out like, oh, it's 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.880 completely privately funded, No, it's not. Every time I have 0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.759 a sip of alcohol, I'm paying for this. 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.120 I think there's a bit of leisure tomay going on 0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.880 in that in that claim that the entire way that 0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:40.160 this is built, I mean, why it's using liquor profits, 0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.960 why it's set up as a private entity is one 0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:47.560 of the key reasons is to hide it from public scrutiny, 0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:51.440 is to prevent it from being subjected to public disclosure 0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:55.280 to our our ordinary open meetings and public disclosure laws. 0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.320 So yes, as a technical matter, you're not using tax dollars, 0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:04.440 but that were This is a publicly created ententity, a 0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:10.800 government created entity that uses monopoly profits from the liquor 0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:15.040 industry that are bonded against purportedly for the benefit of 0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:18.720 the sidis of Ohio in order to create additional jobs. 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:22.440 So it should we should make sure that it's actually 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.320 doing that and doing that well. 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.840 Robert Alt from the Buckeye Institute on this Job's Ohio scandal, 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.920 And we're all paying for this. But if you drink alcohol, Hey, 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.280 if you're a teetotaler, go listen to some nice music 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:39.120 or something. But if you enjoy beer and alcohol, we're 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:40.839 funding jobs of Hio, which is supposed to be out 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.480 workforce development and keeping and bringing more jobs to Ohio. 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.120 And their mission that they're taking the money and doing 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.360 God does with with it. It's an abject failure right now. 0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.560 And this has broken through with the podcast scandal. Then 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:54.840 you mentioned this is the beginning, Robert. It's sixty thousand 0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:57.759 dollars budget for a podcast and no one's downloading and 0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.680 listening to this thing and we spend a ton of money, 0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.120 and that is that the smoking gun to the tip 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:06.040 of the iceberg. Because sixty grand they're operating budget two 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:10.240 years ago was almost two billion dollars. That's nothing. Where's 0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:10.919 this money going? 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.200 That is a great question, and I don't think we're 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:18.839 going to get an answer to that unless until we 0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:23.040 actually have greater transparency. But yeah, sixty grand, I agree. 0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:27.240 Is I think that that that is small potatoes compared 0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.520 to what we're talking about. But you can look at 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.960 other examples that we know about. You can look at 0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:36.359 something like the Lord's Town plant, which I mean, this 0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:39.759 is something that even pre dates jobs Ohio, the state 0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:43.080 of Ohio had had offered. I think, I think something 0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:47.040 in the ballpark of sixty million dollars in in in 0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:53.239 special subsidies to GM to create to create. Was it 0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.200 the Chevy Cruise at that plant or GM ended up 0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:02.480 pulling out? Then jobs Ohio and Ohio entities ended up 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.759 poning up. I believe it was in the ballpark of 0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:10.319 twenty four million dollars for Load's lorgetown motor and they 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.520 counted all the wonderful new jobs that were going to 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.959 be created by Lordstown Motor Not a single car rolled 0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.200 off that lot, off that assembly line. 0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:21.080 In your you're and the thing. I lived for years 0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.920 in the Youngstown Warren air when moved from upstate New York, 0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:25.920 first moved to Ohio, lived in the in the Warren area, 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.759 and then so I know Lordstown very well. A lot 0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.000 of friends and neighbors back there were worked at lord 0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:32.880 and that you know, you're talking about hope for a 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.520 town like Youngstown as well. If we get Lordstown back, 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:37.759 we're talking jobs and we can finally start to turn 0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.560 our economy around. Because even in good economic times, Youngstown 0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:44.279 Warren never gets that memo. And unfortunately, you know, they're 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:46.600 sold a bill of goods that didn't come to fruition. 0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.840 You can't entirely lay that at the feet of jobst Ohio. 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.720 But in this case, I'm looking at their budget. Unless 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.960 we're talking less than sixty percent of the liquor profits 0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:59.280 go to actual economic development, where's the rest going? 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.680 That's a great question, uh, And I think that's the 0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:06.440 question that that's the question that that that all Ohio 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.320 and should be asking. And I think at this point 0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:12.160 it's a question they should be asking their legislators uh, 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:15.040 in the state Assembly, which is why is it we 0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:17.000 don't know? Why is it that we don't. 0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:17.600 Have better data? 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.280 Why is it that we can't get a greater accountability. 0:45:21.480 --> 0:45:23.880 So I'm pleased that a number of legislators are starting 0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:28.960 to step up. There's there's multiple legislative proposals now that 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:33.680 are pending that subject Jobs Ohio to greater accountability. And 0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:35.759 I think it's about it's about time. 0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:39.080 Well, I think the why is easily answered. You know, 0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:44.560 the jobs Ohio. Uh, Jobs Ohio was a Sentien's bipartisan right. 0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.200 Everyone who goes, oh, we need more jobs, and that's 0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.319 something Democrats and Republics Atlanta. But you know what they 0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.719 take the money and it's it's basically pork on a 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:53.279 state level. So you have all these lawmakers it can 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.239 hand out money to with no accountability whatsoever, to get 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.399 re elected and keep their position. That's probably what's going 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:00.800 on here. It's no different than what happens at the 0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:02.640 federal level with with pork barrel spending. 0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:10.040 Absolutely. Look, I understand handing out money is a is 0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.759 a very popular thing for politicians to do, and so 0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:17.120 Jobs Ohio I think is very popular in that sense. Yep, 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:21.160 So but if they're if we're going if that entity 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.880 is going to exist, and it does exist, then it 0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:25.839 needs to have accountability. Yeah. 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.760 We here in Cincinnati, we have very very deep blue 0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.000 government in the city of Cincinnati, and Cincinnati is the 0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.040 heartbeat that beats our region. We all identify Cincinnatians here, 0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:37.360 Robert and in the governor local government. They do a 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:39.200 great job of taking you know, hey, we need to 0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.000 get those money together and we're gonna, I don't know, 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:43.080 we're going to solve poverty and we're going to hand 0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.960 money out to all these organizations. There's no accountability, and 0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:48.720 poverty still continues, and they just ask for more money. 0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.160 And then when you don't, somehow it's racist or biased 0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:54.239 or whatever it might be and insane. Is this any 0:46:54.239 --> 0:47:00.319 different with with Republicans and Democrats and Columbus Uh? 0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.120 I think, I think what you're what you're looking at 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:09.160 and in this situation is the desire to use these 0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:14.680 public dollars UH to draw a new business. My own 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:17.520 opinion always has been the way that you do this 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:21.000 is you create a system where everyone gets a fair shake, 0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.719 where where we all know and we get to play 0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.279 by the rules of the rules of the game that 0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:33.080 actually creates conditions where businesses thrive. But that but to 0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:37.560 your point, yes, there definitely is this this sort of 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:43.160 approach by politicians that the way that you actually cultivate 0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.680 new business is by giving these sorts of these sorts 0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:50.400 of incentives. As long as we have that kind of 0:47:50.680 --> 0:47:55.279 an organization in place, you need accountability to make sure 0:47:55.360 --> 0:48:00.440 because obviously there's there risks in those sorts of situations 0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:05.480 of self dealing, of corruption, of cronyism, and so you know, 0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:10.200 just inherent in that sort of organization you have that risk, 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:15.360 and so you need those additional guardrails and safeguards and accountability. 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:19.560 Robert all on the Job's Ohio scandals from a Buckeye institute. Okay, 0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:24.120 there's the Job's Ohio Transparency Act that's also bipartisan. So 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:25.920 what do you think the odds are that actually passes, 0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.879 given how many politicians benefit from people to hand out 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.480 money Jobs Ohio money that there's no accountability for. 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.479 You know, as I said, I'm not in the prediction game. 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.360 I've been surprised one way or another. But you know, 0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.520 it's interesting to see an addition to that bill. I 0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:45.080 think even in the last couple of days, we've seen 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:49.880 additional bills drop. I think there's a lot more scrutiny 0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:53.840 of Jobs Ohio because of what happened with this podcast scandal, 0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:58.040 and I certainly, I certainly hope that the legislature takes 0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:02.160 this theory seriously and provide some much needed accountability. 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.239 All right, So if it passes, is written, it does 0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.120 it go far enough? If you examined that it is 0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:11.239 just just a first step towards something a little more fundamental, I. 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.560 Would say it's a good for It's a good first step. 0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:18.640 It provides for a real audit. It makes sure that 0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:24.480 the I believe it's the COO of Jobs Ohio has 0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:29.040 to appear before the legislature and be able to answer questions. 0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:31.799 It makes sure that once again we talked about the 0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:34.960 liquor revenues and how it is that which is how 0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:41.080 Jobs Ohio funds these projects. Recently, Jobs Ohio was re 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:46.080 upped for I think an additional fifteen years, even before 0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:51.279 it's scheduled renewal. It makes sure that there's greater there's 0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:55.920 greater scrutiny and protocol with regard to the funding stream. 0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:00.319 All those are good steps to provide accountability and checks job, 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:00.680 so lot. 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.480 Do you feel that there is enough public sentiment against 0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:07.080 this and one demanding answers for this in demanding change 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:11.160 in order to enact it. 0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:16.719 I think I think there's there's certainly public demand there, 0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.200 and I think it's growing. I think at this point 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:24.960 you're seeing additional scrutiny and additional attention being paid to it. 0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.480 You know, it's interesting because I think that they're probably 0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.840 as I said, I think there probably are greater issues 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:34.000 under the hood. We just don't know about them. And 0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:37.160 I really think that the podcast scandal is shining the 0:50:37.320 --> 0:50:38.640 light on the problem. 0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:39.239 Uh. 0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:44.120 You know again, my one prediction is once you actually 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.240 see what's going on, my guess is there's there's there's 0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.160 going to be more issues that will come to life. 0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:53.120 Well, you have missed spending, malfeasons, and a sex scandal 0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:55.880 all lumped into the public sector that generally gets the 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.680 public's attention, which in this case is a good thing. 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.640 He's a president and c e O a Buck Guy Institute. 0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:04.680 Foundless for us and that would be Robert Old. Thanks again, Robert, 0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:07.319 have a great day, Thanks so much. 0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:08.280 Uh. 0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:11.279 Yeah, I mean, anytime you get a syntax, and that's 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:14.560 what this is. Yeah, there's there's less and less accountable. 0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.240 I think that's my politicians love syntaxes really was because 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.640 well it's a syntax. So every time I have a 0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:21.640 sip of alcohol, you have a sip of bourbon or beer, 0:51:21.760 --> 0:51:24.000 whatever it is, you pay into this job's Ohio fund, 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:27.040 and the money's being wasted and people look at it. Well, 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.759 it's not, it's not it's this is a private thing. No, 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:32.160 it's not. It's essentially a tax on me and you. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.160 It really is something. Anyway, we'll continue to follow this story. 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:39.120 We've got a news update happening on this Friday morning, 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:42.200 and then right after that, Austin Ullmore drops by weekend 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.719 sports lots to talk about, from the Reds to the Bengals, 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:48.239 losing a player that's been around for a while FC 0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:50.960 and of course the Masters and more. Just ahead seven 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:52.520 hundred W all thebody, Scott's. 0:51:52.239 --> 0:52:04.880 Lunch, it sloaning and Austin seven hundred WLW. 0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:07.000 He is on ESPN fifteen thirty at noon with Team 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:10.520 Pipe and we chop up all this all the sports 0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:12.520 this weekend. Austin, good morning, how are you, my friends? 0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:15.680 I'm great, Scott, how are you? I'm doing well, on 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:18.880 a real ninth inning comeback in Miami set the stage 0:52:18.920 --> 0:52:21.719 because you're, hey, they're down to nothing, top of the ninth, 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:25.040 they get up all of a sudden, boom you McClain, boom, 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:29.160 double boom, boom, boom, because he looked like a cy 0:52:29.280 --> 0:52:32.960 young winner. They're pitching against and Rightley, So so Red's 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:37.320 getting six runs like this, and you thought, I thought, 0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.399 here we go, they're gonna go on a run. It's 0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:44.560 gonna be double digit wind streak. They're unstoppable, because that 0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.879 was the thing, right they came from behind him. They 0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.400 lose two straight. How is that possible for the Reds? 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.800 It just it defies the laws of sports. 0:52:52.960 --> 0:52:56.000 I mean, when you look at this this team so far, 0:52:56.440 --> 0:53:00.960 up until that game on Wednesday in Miami, they had 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:04.680 played really clean baseball. They hadn't committed an error. They 0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:09.040 were doing just enough to find ways to win. And 0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:13.640 that was encouraging. But you wondered, okay, well, what happens 0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:17.040 when they go when they go down? Sure, what happens 0:53:17.120 --> 0:53:19.680 if a starter doesn't perform? Well, what happens if they 0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:22.400 start to fall apart a little bit defensively? And you 0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:24.759 saw that over the last two nights And honestly, you 0:53:24.760 --> 0:53:27.160 can make the argument that that Tuesday game you're referring 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:29.239 to in which they did come back, that they were 0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:31.840 outplayed in that game by Miami as well up until 0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:34.080 the very end, and Miami kind of gave it to him. 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:38.160 So it makes you wonder through the first two weeks 0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:41.920 of games, which team are they. Are they that team 0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:45.120 that can put together good pitching and good defense and 0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:47.600 five find ways to win, or are they more of 0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:49.839 the roller coaster that we've seen over the last couple 0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.000 of nights, which looks a little bit closer to the 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:56.480 team we saw last season. And if so, which of 0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:59.000 those teams are we going to see more? And is 0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:01.319 that going to be enough to get back to the postseason? 0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:04.480 And the biggest issue still obviously remains the inability to 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:05.719 score very much a lord. 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:09.480 I mean, even before what happened Thursday, oh for ten, 0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:12.440 you know, the worst team in baseball rug out of 0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:15.080 this they can't score any runs, and yet they're still 0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:17.920 went again, They're still a half game back of Milwaukee. 0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:19.880 It's pitching in its defense, yeah, it is. 0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:23.279 It's pitching its defense. The schedule is certainly easy in 0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:25.879 this month of April, and they have a lot of opportunities. 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:28.120 The Angels are playing pretty good coming into this weekend, 0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:32.400 but the Giants are struggling offensively. Minnesota has gutted their roster, 0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:35.360 Tampa's got some injuries. Detroit is supposed to be one 0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:36.960 of the best teams in the American League. They're off 0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.759 to a really bad start, and you've got Colorado coming 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.360 in here. So there are opportunities for this team to 0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:45.040 get going and put some wins up on the schedule. 0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:46.480 But you mentioned it. 0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:49.239 They can't score or they can't hit with runners in 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:52.640 scoring position, and they aren't putting it together a lot 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:56.200 of productive outs right now, even when you know, can't 0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:58.600 move the guy over, can't get the sacrifice fly. That 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.359 sort of stuff makes you wonder about their sustainability long 0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:02.799 term on. 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:04.799 All because I don't think you can sustain this with 0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:07.600 the pitching. And keep in mind too, your ace and 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:11.279 who knows what's going on. Nicolodolo at this point in 0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:14.799 their defense seems to be okay, but that's not a 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:16.200 sustainable model for winning. 0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:16.719 No. 0:55:16.800 --> 0:55:18.839 I mean, it makes it, in one way a lot 0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:20.200 more impressive what they've been able to. 0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:22.239 Really don't take from that because of the. 0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:25.480 Pitching, especially what Louder and Burns and those guys have done. 0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:28.200 And they deserve a ton of credit. And I don't 0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:30.400 know that that who we saw the last couple nights 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:33.440 is who the Reds are. I mean, even on Wednesday 0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:35.239 night when they lost that game seven to four, they 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:36.799 had the tying run at the plate in the ninth inning, 0:55:37.320 --> 0:55:40.239 like they were within striking distance. Yesterday was really the 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:43.160 only clunker. They've had two clunkers. It was the game 0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:46.120 against the Pirates before they left for Texas, and then 0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:49.799 this this game yesterday against Miami. Okay, so hopefully they 0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:50.680 played better at home. 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.600 Really small sample size, at the extremely small sample, and 0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:55.239 five and two you don't have the best start since 0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:57.239 the nineteen ninety wire to wear him. Every's happy as 0:55:57.280 --> 0:55:58.840 I can say. And here we are bitching about it, 0:55:58.840 --> 0:56:00.839 and we I mean about it. I think there's something there. 0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:02.440 It's because you got to look at it. Going a 0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:06.319 bucks sixty eight with runners in scoring position is and 0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:09.319 that's dead last by fire and baseball. Will it work 0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:12.720 itself out? Is it a rouster or a roster construction problem? 0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:15.000 Is it just the minute these guys get anywhere in 0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:16.040 near gabp. 0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:17.120 I think there's a couple of ways to look at 0:56:17.160 --> 0:56:19.759 Like you'll never complain about a five and two road trip, 0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:22.720 and I'm not complaining about that now, But I'm wondering 0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:25.399 about their ability to put together a lot of five 0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.160 and two road trips if this is going to be 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:30.080 their offensive issue. And if you think back to last year, 0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:33.080 through the first chunk of the season, they really could 0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.880 barely score at all. They had that one game in 0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.680 Baltimore they went for twenty four runs, right, and that 0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:41.560 kind of inflated the numbers. They had games of fourteen 0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:45.279 to twenty four and like eleven in the first two 0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:47.480 months of the season. But other than that, they were 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:50.680 scoring two, one, zero three, And that's kind of what 0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:51.719 we've seen to this point. 0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:54.120 I think after the rain, yeah exactly. 0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:59.160 So I'm not The season is obviously not over, but 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:06.040 I I just don't know offensively what the Who's going 0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:08.080 to be the person to step up? Like Sala Stewart's 0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.759 been awesome, Ellie has had a pretty good season both 0:57:10.800 --> 0:57:14.080 defensively and offensively. He maybe has been their most consistent player. 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:17.919 It's just is that ever going to change. We saw 0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:20.520 those issues early last year and they were issues for 0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.400 the entire season. Can they flip that we've seen. 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:26.120 This for twenty years I did for the most majority 0:57:26.160 --> 0:57:28.880 of GABP. This has been a problem. Yeah, we have. 0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:32.200 But I don't know that that history is all that 0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:35.440 important right now with this group of players and with 0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:36.080 this manager. 0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:38.200 You think like the ballpark was built on an ancient 0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:40.920 Indian burial ground or something. Is that what I'm not doing? 0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:42.920 We need to do a little curse thing because remember 0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:45.080 before the cut when the Cubs won the World Series? 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:46.280 Is over, but it was a curse of the Billy 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:48.440 gou Do we have a curse? I think he hit 0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:50.360 the ball. I thought the curse was over last year 0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:54.680 when Pete Rose died. Honestly, Nope, but I guess not eight. 0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:57.000 But that being said, we did get to the postseason. 0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:59.200 I don't know what it is which we hadn't done it. Yeah, yeah, 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:02.840 maybe there's some levels too, and exorcism, I don't I 0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:05.360 have no But the idea this in this size ballpark, 0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:06.680 with the hitting talent that you have. 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:08.760 Well that's the thing. There's not guys on the team 0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:10.720 that can hit the ball out of the ballpark. That's 0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:13.520 not a team that's built for power. Now those guys 0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:15.960 can't evolve into that. I think Matt McClain could be 0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:17.680 that guy. I think South Stewart is that guy. I 0:58:17.680 --> 0:58:20.040 think Ellie can be that guy. Hell Spencer Stears hit 0:58:20.080 --> 0:58:22.320 twenty homers each the last couple of years, so there 0:58:22.400 --> 0:58:25.360 is something to that. And obviously you bring in a 0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:27.280 u Haaneo Suarez who's still going to hit a lot 0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:29.360 of homers and has to this point. Also, by the ways, 0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:31.120 look pretty good hitting the ball the other way as well, 0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:36.520 So I see the vision. It's just the games aren't 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:37.200 played on paper. 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:40.600 Yeah there, and again you know we're not We're not diminishing. 0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.560 The successor as of half a half game back is phenomenal. 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:48.200 We love it right now, streaming early still. But he 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:50.280 seems to be a runaway favorite for Rookie of the 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:51.960 Year in South Stuart. I mean he has been on 0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:54.280 a run, like you keep waiting for the cool off. Yeah, 0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:56.560 and he'll have spots really cool, but sure he just 0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:59.880 his defense has been great and in as bad as 0:59:00.680 --> 0:59:03.880 nothing short spectac and has hit the ball to all fields. 0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:06.680 He's homeward the opposite field, he's homeward pulling the ball, 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:09.680 He's homeward in the gaps and defensively as a guy 0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:12.040 who really had not played much first base at all, 0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:15.480 has been pretty solid over there. And I love his attitude, 0:59:15.560 --> 0:59:18.720 Like you can tell that losing really really bothers him. 0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:21.320 It drives him nuts, and I think that can raise 0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:24.160 the level of play, especially for these guys who the 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:26.160 rest of the guys on this team are young, but 0:59:26.280 --> 0:59:30.400 also they don't have that personality that necessarily necessarily matches that. 0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:34.560 And so when you lead through your attitude, I think 0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:36.280 that can have a trickle down effect on the rest 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:38.360 of the club when they're like, yeah, man, this young 0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:40.640 dude's fired up, he's taking it serious, he's working his 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:42.600 butt off, he's doing everything the team has asked him. 0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:45.200 That I think can be a positive thing. Plus, you 0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:47.680 bring in a veteran like au Haineo Suarez that can 0:59:47.760 --> 0:59:50.840 help study the ship like clubhouse. Wise, I think that's 0:59:50.880 --> 0:59:53.240 all a good thing and it does make me think, Okay, 0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:57.560 are they better positioned to sustain some of these issues 0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.720 with those guys in the clubhouse with a dude like 1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:02.760 south Stewart, who I think the best way to describe 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.880 him is completely fearless. He is not afraid of any pitcher, 1:00:05.920 --> 1:00:07.880 he steps in the box against he's not afraid of 1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:11.520 anything that happens defensively. I think that attitude is important. 1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:13.440 And he's having fun and that's the other thing. It 1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:15.440 looks like he's having a good time out. Yeah, and 1:00:15.480 --> 1:00:17.560 again I think it says a lot about him that 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:20.280 Terry Francona is like, yeah, I'm putting this rookie as 1:00:20.320 --> 1:00:21.000 a clean up hitter. 1:00:21.120 --> 1:00:21.280 Yeah. 1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:24.680 And there have been many situations I think Francona deserves 1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:27.160 a lot of credit. Where south Stewart's been the dude 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:29.720 on bass and Auhinehosuarez has had the chance to drive 1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:31.720 him in, or Elie de la Cruz has been on 1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:33.680 base and salth Stewart has had the chance to drive 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:38.000 him in. Those opportunities. Eventually, I feel like are going 1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:40.520 to the Reds, are gonna make the most of it. 1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:42.600 And you also have some you know, speaking of offense, 1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.200 you also have some room down in Louisville too. And 1:00:45.240 --> 1:00:48.160 that's the question is okay, well, if these pieces aren't 1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:50.280 working up, how soon does Tito go down and start 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:51.400 calling guys up from down there. 1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:53.560 It's a good question. Re Signs continues to hit the 1:00:53.560 --> 1:00:57.080 ball really, really well. JJ Bledat has hit the ball really, 1:00:57.120 --> 1:00:58.680 really well, and you remember those guys were in a 1:00:58.720 --> 1:01:02.520 camp battle in in spring training to get to this level. 1:01:02.880 --> 1:01:05.120 I think something to keep an eye out on is 1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:09.080 TJ Friedel. TJ Friedel is not making a ton of contact. 1:01:09.120 --> 1:01:10.880 He did have a three hit game the other day, 1:01:11.400 --> 1:01:13.560 but he's there's a lot of swing and miss in 1:01:13.640 --> 1:01:16.000 his game right now, and that's an issue for your 1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:18.600 leadoff hitter. On top of that, he just looks a 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:21.440 little bit slower out in center field, and so I 1:01:21.440 --> 1:01:23.919 wonder if we'll see more of TJ. Friedl in left 1:01:23.920 --> 1:01:26.080 field and maybe a little bit more of Dane Meers 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:29.840 in center or Will Benson in center, and maybe Reese 1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:33.480 Hines in center down the road, especially because it doesn't 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:36.040 feel like Nouelvie Marte is making a lot of progress 1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:38.920 right now. And I think it's a little bit unfair 1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:42.040 to Marte because he's a much better hitter against right handers. 1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:44.040 He has what we call reverse splits where he's not 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:46.800 as good against lefties, but he is good against righty's, 1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:49.800 and he's kind of been platooning and only playing against lefties, 1:01:49.840 --> 1:01:53.000 so I think that works against him. But he still 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:56.120 hasn't taken advantage of the opportunities he's been given. And 1:01:56.160 --> 1:01:59.080 so I wonder if the Reds continue to struggle offensively 1:01:59.120 --> 1:02:02.040 and Noelvie continue used to not offer much, if they'll say, okay, 1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:05.200 we're gonna flip re signs in Noelvie Marte, give Reese 1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:06.880 a chance to play center. By the way, one of 1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:10.480 the fastest dudes in the organization has vastly improved his defense, 1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:15.800 would be an immediate upgrade offensively and defensively over Noelvie Marte. 1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:18.000 In my opinion, I think that's something that could happen 1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:18.840 sooner rather than like. 1:02:18.840 --> 1:02:23.600 Which is why tomorrow it's Noelvie marblehood marble bobblehead marble 1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:29.960 Yes Marte bobblehead. Yeah, marblehead marblehead. Uh at Gradepark, does 1:02:30.000 --> 1:02:30.880 I want to get out of the way. 1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:35.480 Yeah, I'm glad they did it early, gonna it was 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:37.080 gonna be July, Like, we need to move this one. 1:02:37.240 --> 1:02:39.280 It is a cool bibblehead. I mean, if you remember 1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:41.400 it was the catch last year that saved the season 1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:44.440 against the Pittsburgh Pirates. You know, Marte had a stretch 1:02:44.560 --> 1:02:46.720 last year where he was a beast and you know 1:02:47.080 --> 1:02:49.320 I was, I was drinking the kool aid on Noelvie 1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:52.440 Marte in the last month of the season. He was 1:02:52.480 --> 1:02:54.840 awful to the point where he was bench during the postseason. 1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:57.240 At one point was I thought the future of the 1:02:57.320 --> 1:02:59.480 number two spot in the batting order. I don't know 1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:01.280 what's going on, but I know he's chasing a lot 1:03:01.320 --> 1:03:03.440 of pitches outside the zone and he's not seeing a 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:05.640 lot of pitches inside the zone. And I don't know 1:03:05.680 --> 1:03:08.280 if there's a patience there, a plate discipline issue there. 1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:10.560 But something's got to change for Marte in the batters, 1:03:10.640 --> 1:03:11.720 all right, So that's in tonight. 1:03:11.760 --> 1:03:14.080 Of course, we've got fireworks at GABP and you got 1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:16.680 Family Discount Day on Sunday, so all in the weather 1:03:16.720 --> 1:03:18.400 looks great, So all is right with the world. I 1:03:18.400 --> 1:03:20.640 will point this out too, that what do you make 1:03:20.840 --> 1:03:23.440 of the city connectors? I will say this. When I 1:03:23.480 --> 1:03:26.680 saw the quote unquote leak, I like, fact, I don't. 1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:28.760 I'm not a big fan of the sea. But then 1:03:28.800 --> 1:03:31.560 I saw it on when they when they put the 1:03:31.560 --> 1:03:33.960 Sizzle Reil out and I saw it on Ellie and 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:36.280 I went, actually, I kind of like it. Now, Yeah, 1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:38.520 it looks good with the hat in the yeah in the. 1:03:38.560 --> 1:03:40.240 Jersey, and I remember when the leak came out, I 1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:41.840 was like, I got to see the whole thing before 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:42.800 I make a judgment. 1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:44.280 I like the pin stripes. 1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:46.000 I've always been a big fan of the pin stripe 1:03:46.040 --> 1:03:48.280 cool and I actually really like the sea. I think 1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:51.240 that white version of that City Connect sea. I know 1:03:51.360 --> 1:03:53.880 some people say it looks like a strip of bacon 1:03:53.960 --> 1:03:56.360 or something. I get that, but I think it looks 1:03:56.400 --> 1:04:00.720 pretty sharp. I think it's cool. And I'm glad that 1:04:00.720 --> 1:04:02.640 they didn't like mix and match because we've seen that 1:04:02.680 --> 1:04:04.760 a lot in City Connect where the jersey and the 1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:07.600 pant pants are a dark color. I'm glad they didn't 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:09.920 like stick with the black pants and they go all red. 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:13.160 Reds haven't had red pants since I think nineteen thirty six. 1:04:13.800 --> 1:04:16.240 So I think it's cool. I think it'll look good 1:04:16.360 --> 1:04:19.720 at Great American Ballpark, and I'm glad that they kept 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:21.760 it in the same theme. I was talking to some 1:04:21.760 --> 1:04:24.440 people from the Reds yesterday and they said that the 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:27.560 Reds were by far the most successful when it comes 1:04:27.640 --> 1:04:30.320 to merchandise sales of any of the Major League teams 1:04:30.360 --> 1:04:32.920 with the City Connect and so to the Red's credit, 1:04:33.000 --> 1:04:34.760 they went to Nike and they said, hey, we want 1:04:34.760 --> 1:04:37.160 to keep it in the family. Here basically the same theme, 1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:39.880 but we would to add some elements and flip the colors, 1:04:40.000 --> 1:04:42.240 and they worked out really well. I think I think 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:45.080 fans are gonna like that. Okay, cool, Yeah, it's fun. 1:04:45.240 --> 1:04:46.960 And I like the old black with the cincion. I 1:04:46.960 --> 1:04:49.120 think that's cool. And but they are keeping those. By 1:04:49.120 --> 1:04:51.160 the way, they're going to wear those on Friday night, 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:54.440 So tonight they'll wear the all black, Tomorrow wear the 1:04:54.480 --> 1:04:55.000 all nights. 1:04:55.320 --> 1:04:55.720 Yeah. 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:58.440 And they've got the genius of water patch too. Yeah, 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:01.600 that is me. So Friday night is the black. Saturday 1:05:01.600 --> 1:05:02.760 home games is the all Red? 1:05:02.760 --> 1:05:05.200 All right? Trevino to the I L for a while, 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:10.600 three letters C E S, three more letters d FA. Yeah. 1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:13.080 So yeah, let's switch the Bengals book. A cam Sample 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:13.880 is no longer a Bengal. 1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:16.240 Cam Sample, who was one of their better run defenders 1:05:16.320 --> 1:05:18.439 over the last couple of years, still left a lot 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:21.960 to be desired as a pass rusher, had a season 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:25.400 ending injury of the year before, but overall solid player 1:05:25.400 --> 1:05:27.479 and one of those last players left from that Super 1:05:27.520 --> 1:05:30.040 Bowl team a few years ago. Signs a one year 1:05:30.080 --> 1:05:32.640 deal with the San Francisco forty nine ers. I think 1:05:32.680 --> 1:05:34.600 it's all part of the plan that the Bengals are 1:05:34.600 --> 1:05:36.680 gonna keep going towards ed rushers in the draft. 1:05:36.760 --> 1:05:40.480 Speaking of limping FC Cincinnati, we're not used to seeing 1:05:40.480 --> 1:05:42.360 two and four this time. There grant a lot of 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:46.840 soccer slash football left to play. Naymar is this guy's 1:05:46.920 --> 1:05:53.600 name them it's n e y, so it's men and 1:05:53.640 --> 1:05:56.840 should be n A Y spells it wrong name anyway, Nemar. 1:05:57.000 --> 1:05:59.080 He's only one of the most popular players in the 1:05:59.120 --> 1:06:02.200 history of soccer. He's like thirty four globally, one of 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:04.439 the most popular. If there was a point in time 1:06:04.480 --> 1:06:08.520 where it was like Messi, Ronaldo and Naymo. I talked 1:06:08.520 --> 1:06:12.080 with a source yesterday about Neymar. They told me he's 1:06:12.080 --> 1:06:15.600 playing in Brazil. He's hurt every single game, every other game. 1:06:16.120 --> 1:06:19.200 His ankles are completely gone. His ACL was torn two 1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:21.720 years ago. But he would sell a lot of jerseys. 1:06:22.800 --> 1:06:24.960 And I said, that's what I said. I said, I 1:06:24.960 --> 1:06:27.840 hope that's not how f C Cincinnati is operating. And 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:30.200 he's also an offensive player. And I don't know if 1:06:30.200 --> 1:06:32.720 you've looked at the scores lately, but they can't stop 1:06:32.760 --> 1:06:37.760 people from scoring goals, So I reserve judgment because I 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:40.520 have no idea. Like the roster at the beginning of 1:06:40.520 --> 1:06:42.160 the year compared to the end of the year for 1:06:42.280 --> 1:06:44.680 f C Cincinnati is always very different, and they've done 1:06:44.720 --> 1:06:47.240 a good job of conforming and adapting over the course 1:06:47.280 --> 1:06:49.240 of the season. So maybe they have a vision and 1:06:49.480 --> 1:06:51.640 potentially neymar is a part of that. That is something 1:06:51.640 --> 1:06:54.200 that I don't yet understand, but it would be an 1:06:54.200 --> 1:06:57.960 exciting moment for a globally popular player like him to 1:06:57.960 --> 1:06:58.320 come here. 1:06:58.400 --> 1:07:00.840 Okay, bar the lead for a lot of people, but 1:07:01.280 --> 1:07:04.400 it's the Masters, Yes, a tradition unlike any other, and 1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:06.600 I think you go back to two thousand and one 1:07:06.680 --> 1:07:09.040 Tiger did it and defended back to backs and we 1:07:09.080 --> 1:07:12.760 haven't had a true pure something like that. Could Rory 1:07:12.800 --> 1:07:15.000 do that because he came out and shot a sixty seven? Yeah, 1:07:15.000 --> 1:07:15.960 I thought it was interesting. 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:19.640 Yesterday Fred Couples said that he told his caddie on 1:07:19.680 --> 1:07:23.800 the twelfth hole yesterday, Rory might never lose this thing 1:07:23.840 --> 1:07:26.200 again now that he's won it once and got that 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:29.000 monkey off of his back. And Rory kind of talked 1:07:29.000 --> 1:07:32.360 about that yesterday as well as like like I felt 1:07:32.360 --> 1:07:33.520 like I could take a breath. 1:07:33.600 --> 1:07:35.320 I felt so much more relaxed. 1:07:35.760 --> 1:07:37.320 And then when I got on the first t I 1:07:37.360 --> 1:07:39.680 felt the nervousness that I always felt, and so that 1:07:39.800 --> 1:07:42.360 made him feel good that like, yes, I'm in such 1:07:42.400 --> 1:07:44.919 a better place, but I still have that fire within 1:07:44.960 --> 1:07:48.040 me to win this tournament. And listen, the Masters for 1:07:48.080 --> 1:07:50.120 the returning champion is there's a lot. I mean, you're 1:07:50.160 --> 1:07:52.880 pulling a lot of different directions on there. He's been 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:55.520 there for eight or nine days, like working on stuff. 1:07:55.560 --> 1:07:59.000 So hopefully I like Rory. I'm a big Rory guy, 1:07:59.240 --> 1:08:01.720 and I would love to see him go back to back. 1:08:02.000 --> 1:08:03.520 Yeah, I'll tell you. And the thing about the Masters 1:08:03.520 --> 1:08:05.960 real quick, I know we got to go, is it's 1:08:06.000 --> 1:08:08.000 just such a fun event. I know the waste management 1:08:08.040 --> 1:08:09.920 is the one for the fans, but that Power three 1:08:09.920 --> 1:08:12.400 where the kids are playing and Kevin Hart is shorter 1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:14.800 than most of the kids that we're playing, is catting 1:08:14.840 --> 1:08:16.240 for Scotty and let him hit the ball. 1:08:16.280 --> 1:08:18.000 It's just such a fun thing. Yeah, I disagree with 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:19.960 you one hundred percent. I don't like Kevin Hart. I 1:08:20.000 --> 1:08:22.479 don't want Jason Kelsey. I don't want those dudes anywhere 1:08:22.479 --> 1:08:25.120 near the Masters tournament. I like the mystique of it. 1:08:25.200 --> 1:08:28.360 I like the kind of like the exclusivity, Like, yeah, 1:08:28.400 --> 1:08:29.479 the kids and stuff is fun. 1:08:29.479 --> 1:08:31.920 I don't need to see Jason Kelsey and Kevin Hart. Okay, 1:08:31.960 --> 1:08:35.880 fair enough, I get that that does appeal to somebody. Well, 1:08:35.880 --> 1:08:37.680 that's plus it's a power three. They don't care. Yeah, 1:08:37.840 --> 1:08:39.799 and taking a potter and ship or something for Scotty. 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:41.920 He's hostin almor today at noon with Pike. What do 1:08:41.920 --> 1:08:42.240 you got. 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:44.200 Well, we're gonna be doing our check ins with mo 1:08:44.360 --> 1:08:47.760 Egger across the street at Rally House. Mo Is I 1:08:47.760 --> 1:08:50.439 thought he's only about allowed to be at Holy Grail 1:08:50.520 --> 1:08:52.400 and Smoke. Just mo is going to be giving away 1:08:52.439 --> 1:08:54.479 some gift cards to Rally House, So maybe you could 1:08:54.520 --> 1:08:57.719 go gear up with the new across literally right across 1:08:57.720 --> 1:09:00.160 the street, some new Red City connect here. 1:09:00.160 --> 1:09:01.160 Maybe you could gear up there. 1:09:01.200 --> 1:09:04.000 We'll talk to him if Charlie Goldsmith will help make 1:09:04.080 --> 1:09:06.160 sense of what the Reds did the last couple of days, 1:09:06.640 --> 1:09:09.439 and we'll talk to Tommy g about that neymar rumor 1:09:09.439 --> 1:09:12.360 in FC Cincinnati, and we'll do Master's updates throughout the 1:09:12.439 --> 1:09:13.120 day as well. 1:09:12.960 --> 1:09:15.280 Perfect, got a sports minded and. 1:09:15.920 --> 1:09:18.559 By the way, Scott, tonight I will be hosting the 1:09:18.600 --> 1:09:22.439 Inside Pitch what right here on seven hundred WLW on Sunday, 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:25.040 I've got the Extra Inning Show right here on seven 1:09:25.120 --> 1:09:25.959 hundred WLW. 1:09:26.120 --> 1:09:30.559 I understand and playing the Angels of Anaheim. Yes, that's correct, Okay, 1:09:30.560 --> 1:09:32.840 I got it. So you'll often as you covered there, 1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:35.240 He's got you covered. Here, we got you covered. This 1:09:35.360 --> 1:09:37.519 is the home of the Red seven hundred WW Sincent. 1:09:37.920 --> 1:09:42.600 Do you want to be an American? You got it? 1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:45.679 You got a laugh whatever might be more than half 1:09:45.760 --> 1:09:47.720 of Americas. Maybe you if you have a laptime you 1:09:47.840 --> 1:09:50.280 ran in the mailware last year, we're in. Here's the 1:09:50.320 --> 1:09:54.240 frightening part about that. A number of people, maybe even you, 1:09:54.320 --> 1:09:59.479 did absolutely nothing about it. Pretty scary. Dasha Milde this 1:09:59.560 --> 1:10:02.960 year she is that c NETS consumer Insights editor joins 1:10:02.960 --> 1:10:04.680 the show once again, Miss Dasha. How are you? 1:10:05.920 --> 1:10:06.960 I'm good? How are you? 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:09.639 I'm doing fine because I think I don't have malware 1:10:09.680 --> 1:10:12.280 in my laptop, but I something like eight out of 1:10:12.320 --> 1:10:14.880 ten adults have a laptop, not personal laptop, but that 1:10:14.960 --> 1:10:17.479 is the primary target for cyber criminals. More. You know, 1:10:17.520 --> 1:10:19.760 we used to be PC, a desktop based system, and 1:10:19.760 --> 1:10:23.080 now ourn's got a laptop. But fifty four percent, and 1:10:23.160 --> 1:10:25.599 you study, fifty four percent of laptop owners say they 1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:28.760 have encountered malware in the past year. And how many 1:10:28.800 --> 1:10:31.400 people said, I don't really care, I'm not going to 1:10:31.439 --> 1:10:33.320 try any think about it. That's the frightening part. 1:10:34.560 --> 1:10:38.839 Yeah, twelve percent did nothing when coming to cross malware 1:10:38.880 --> 1:10:41.680 over the past twelve months, and that can actually be 1:10:41.880 --> 1:10:46.360 a really scary thought thinking about how easily malware can 1:10:46.360 --> 1:10:49.519 creep onto our computers and what happens if you don't 1:10:49.560 --> 1:10:50.599 take any action. 1:10:51.760 --> 1:10:53.519 I guess the question would be, you know why it 1:10:53.600 --> 1:10:55.400 is out there? How do you know you have malware 1:10:55.439 --> 1:10:57.000 in your laptop? I guess would be The big thing 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:59.240 is it is the fact that Okay, fifty four percent 1:10:59.280 --> 1:11:01.080 have it. They didn't you just you don't know what 1:11:01.120 --> 1:11:01.439 it is. 1:11:02.960 --> 1:11:05.640 Yeah, malware can be very sneaky, So we have to 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:08.799 look at it from just even app downloads to clicking 1:11:08.840 --> 1:11:12.200 links that seem very credible from sources that we may 1:11:12.280 --> 1:11:15.920 even trust. Sometimes it's even just looking as simple as 1:11:16.000 --> 1:11:19.519 it's noticing maybe small glitches on your computer, maybe there's 1:11:19.600 --> 1:11:22.519 software that you didn't download that suddenly one day just 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:26.080 happens to appear. So it really does come down to 1:11:26.240 --> 1:11:29.439 some of those bigger, more obvious things like noticing your 1:11:29.439 --> 1:11:32.759 computer doing things that it usually doesn't. But sometimes malware 1:11:32.800 --> 1:11:34.880 can be on your computer and you might not even 1:11:34.960 --> 1:11:38.040 realize it, so you really have to be very careful 1:11:38.120 --> 1:11:41.280 consider running even a malware scan seeing if malware is 1:11:41.280 --> 1:11:43.960 on your computer. But just keeping in mind also that 1:11:44.080 --> 1:11:48.720 a lot of these devices nowadays actually have antivirus software 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:51.720 in those measures built into them, so you don't really 1:11:51.760 --> 1:11:54.040 need to take any additional action when it comes to 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:59.000 antivirus software. It's really about behavioral and really thinking and 1:11:59.360 --> 1:12:01.040 watching out those red flags. 1:12:01.080 --> 1:12:04.680 Do most providers. Internet service providers have it already in 1:12:04.720 --> 1:12:07.880 part of their infrastructure. I know on my mode and 1:12:07.920 --> 1:12:10.280 my messh system at my house, I have it on 1:12:10.520 --> 1:12:11.960 the Wi Fi right itself. 1:12:13.000 --> 1:12:13.519 Is that enough? 1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:17.519 I would say that in some instances that might seem 1:12:17.600 --> 1:12:19.000 like enough. What we really have to think about it 1:12:19.160 --> 1:12:22.320 is is that the device level, So Windows devices usually 1:12:22.360 --> 1:12:25.960 have Windows Defender, and then mass devices usually have ex 1:12:26.040 --> 1:12:29.120 Protect as well as a number of other security measures. 1:12:29.240 --> 1:12:30.960 So you may be able to find it through your 1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:33.960 Internet service provider. You may also be able to find 1:12:34.000 --> 1:12:38.240 it through your desktop or excuse me, your laptop. Even so, 1:12:38.400 --> 1:12:41.680 it's really seeing what options you have, and if you're 1:12:41.720 --> 1:12:44.640 ever curious, call your INNT service provider and see what 1:12:44.840 --> 1:12:47.799 option they actually do have available and what the features 1:12:47.920 --> 1:12:51.960 actually are. Some oftentimes that we've found is that there's 1:12:51.960 --> 1:12:55.120 the ones that are on your device. Those security measures, 1:12:55.200 --> 1:12:59.439 those anti virus measures are usually enough. What we have 1:12:59.560 --> 1:13:01.799 to start looking at are all of those other things 1:13:01.880 --> 1:13:06.519 that happen outside of viruses, malware, phishing, the terms and 1:13:06.640 --> 1:13:09.040 what the result of those may be. So thinking about 1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:12.639 your identity or your data actually being stolen, or even 1:13:12.720 --> 1:13:16.679 thinking about your password being compromised. Right, so mpivirus software 1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:18.559 is are going to quite protect you from those things. 1:13:18.840 --> 1:13:21.040 So while you already have step one, you have to 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:23.040 look at steps two, three, and four while you're at it. 1:13:23.200 --> 1:13:25.040 Yeah, God, so that's the worst case scenario. It's not 1:13:25.160 --> 1:13:27.720 my data, my information, all my personal data that's on 1:13:27.760 --> 1:13:29.760 my laft. If I do banking on my laptop, I 1:13:29.760 --> 1:13:31.680 would assume that all that is compromised. 1:13:33.080 --> 1:13:35.880 You should definitely make sure that if you do have 1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:38.439 a device that is infected with malware, make sure that 1:13:38.520 --> 1:13:41.519 you change your passwords. Also want to double check that 1:13:41.560 --> 1:13:43.960 you have by data STEFF protection in place, so that 1:13:44.280 --> 1:13:47.479 if you do actually have your information compromised, you can 1:13:47.560 --> 1:13:49.920 get that alert sooner rather than later and hopefully take 1:13:50.040 --> 1:13:53.800 action to reduce the risk of it actually growing getting further. Right, 1:13:54.240 --> 1:13:57.000 So I would say that making sure that if you 1:13:57.200 --> 1:14:00.280 do happen to have malware or you notice something think 1:14:00.400 --> 1:14:03.240 is off, disconnecting it from your Wi Fi. I almost 1:14:03.240 --> 1:14:06.639 put it in like its own little standbox, right, making 1:14:06.720 --> 1:14:10.080 sure that you have connected it to connected that device 1:14:10.200 --> 1:14:14.479 only to its only guest network, separate from everything else, 1:14:14.520 --> 1:14:16.680 so that you can take the steps that you need to. 1:14:17.560 --> 1:14:21.439 And that's where Windows Defender and other anti virus software 1:14:21.479 --> 1:14:24.240 programs can actually walk you through those steps. And those 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:27.000 steps may vary, and see it does have a lot 1:14:27.040 --> 1:14:30.160 of really great coverage to help you walk through those steps, 1:14:30.320 --> 1:14:32.559 what type of viruses to look for, but on top 1:14:32.640 --> 1:14:35.639 of that just other red flags to keep in mind. 1:14:35.760 --> 1:14:37.920 So we often look for like the software, which is 1:14:37.960 --> 1:14:40.240 but it's really more to us than that, and our 1:14:40.280 --> 1:14:42.559 experts really dive into that on our side A good bit. 1:14:42.880 --> 1:14:46.000 Dasha Milden from Seeing At she's a consumer insights editor 1:14:46.080 --> 1:14:50.080 more than half of Americans have laptops now, and those 1:14:50.800 --> 1:14:54.040 majority of run into malware last year, and a disturbing 1:14:54.120 --> 1:14:56.680 number a growing number of people did nothing about it. 1:14:56.720 --> 1:14:58.280 That's what we're talking about this morning. I think this 1:14:58.320 --> 1:15:02.160 is even more relevant today, Dasha, because of the threat 1:15:02.240 --> 1:15:03.920 that a RAN post is to us, and we know 1:15:04.120 --> 1:15:06.960 that they have penetrated our digital infrastructure. We know that 1:15:07.439 --> 1:15:10.439 they are lurking in the background, and the latest alert 1:15:10.560 --> 1:15:15.960 involves them actually inside our infrastructure like water and electric 1:15:16.080 --> 1:15:18.240 rids and things like the hospitals for example. So the 1:15:18.280 --> 1:15:21.040 Striker attack not too long ago that they are actively 1:15:21.160 --> 1:15:22.680 involved in this. We don't know when they're going to 1:15:22.720 --> 1:15:25.360 launch something they're probing I guess as we speak. But 1:15:25.600 --> 1:15:28.040 you hear that and go, okay, well, that's a government system. 1:15:28.080 --> 1:15:29.960 I can't control that. I can only control my little 1:15:30.080 --> 1:15:33.519 laptop here. How big of concern are those hacks that 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:35.800 the rangers are putting out to the average person listening 1:15:35.880 --> 1:15:36.160 right now? 1:15:37.280 --> 1:15:39.360 So I think we should be concerned about any hack. 1:15:39.400 --> 1:15:41.679 I think we should really be very concerned about even 1:15:41.760 --> 1:15:44.960 just thinking about AI. Right the development of AI really 1:15:45.040 --> 1:15:48.240 making it easy to actually create hacks and fishing distemps 1:15:48.280 --> 1:15:48.799 and things. 1:15:48.640 --> 1:15:49.160 Of that sort. 1:15:49.520 --> 1:15:53.600 So regardless of the malware attempt or the hack, or 1:15:53.680 --> 1:15:56.800 the phishing email or even the unusual payment request that 1:15:56.880 --> 1:15:59.720 some people are seeing, even pop ups, we really have 1:15:59.800 --> 1:16:01.840 to think about what are the steps that we can 1:16:01.920 --> 1:16:05.720 tack right now before anything happens in any scenario, And 1:16:05.800 --> 1:16:07.559 that's where we really start to have to look into 1:16:08.040 --> 1:16:12.320 cybersecurity being a multi step approach. Seeing what options you 1:16:12.479 --> 1:16:17.040 currently have. Is your antivirus enough? Do you have antivirus 1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:19.240 on all of your computers, even going back to seeing 1:16:19.280 --> 1:16:20.519 if you have a device at every. 1:16:20.439 --> 1:16:22.559 Ten years old, you might want to double check. 1:16:22.479 --> 1:16:25.360 If that antivirus software is up to date right, or 1:16:25.400 --> 1:16:27.759 even just looking at a lot of these other options 1:16:27.840 --> 1:16:31.679 that I talked about earlier, just making sure that those 1:16:31.800 --> 1:16:35.000 things are in place, so regardless of whatever happened, you 1:16:35.080 --> 1:16:37.880 can be aware a lot sooner and hopefully take action 1:16:38.080 --> 1:16:41.000 that con mitigate whatever it is that has crept onto 1:16:41.040 --> 1:16:43.760 your computer and could kind of derail your life a 1:16:43.800 --> 1:16:47.080 little bit in a way that your data could be compromised, 1:16:47.200 --> 1:16:50.000 your passwords may be at risk, things of that sort, 1:16:50.600 --> 1:16:53.240 and malware attempts can be very sneaky. We also have 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:55.880 to look for them on our mobile devices too, and 1:16:56.000 --> 1:16:58.120 just seeing what other security measures are available there. 1:16:58.560 --> 1:17:01.639 The top source is far as being exposed to mal 1:17:01.680 --> 1:17:03.920 where you get it from. You can mend many things, 1:17:03.960 --> 1:17:06.160 but typically it's gonna be a phishing email. I think 1:17:06.200 --> 1:17:09.080 that's the number one threat right there. And I've received 1:17:09.160 --> 1:17:11.160 we've all received our shares, you know, a toll for 1:17:11.240 --> 1:17:14.439 a road I've never driven on, some sort of court order. 1:17:14.680 --> 1:17:16.920 Is the new one going around where they misspelled the 1:17:16.960 --> 1:17:20.680 word Ohio And we've seen really bad ones. But how 1:17:20.760 --> 1:17:23.880 much more is AI starting to take over and writing 1:17:23.960 --> 1:17:26.000 that to make it a little more realistic? And if 1:17:26.040 --> 1:17:28.360 that's true, that's the scary part because we kind of 1:17:28.400 --> 1:17:30.960 rely on them sending it for some janky email address 1:17:31.080 --> 1:17:34.000 or some I don't know, some area code you don't recognize, 1:17:34.760 --> 1:17:38.839 not always from an official. If I got something from Verizon, 1:17:38.880 --> 1:17:41.759 for example, I'd pay more attention to it, said Verizon 1:17:41.840 --> 1:17:44.080 and gave me a five digit number as to where 1:17:44.120 --> 1:17:46.880 the text came from, versus some eight six seven number 1:17:46.960 --> 1:17:48.600 that I have no idea what it is, or some 1:17:48.800 --> 1:17:51.800 Yahoo dot Yahoo account that we typically get the alert 1:17:51.880 --> 1:17:53.840 is to that does a scam and it's malware and 1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:56.519 it's fishing with AI involved in that, Now, how does 1:17:56.560 --> 1:17:57.439 that change a landscape? 1:17:59.160 --> 1:18:01.519 AI can be very sneaky and make a lot of 1:18:01.600 --> 1:18:04.599 these attempts a lot more believable. So while we might 1:18:04.760 --> 1:18:07.679 usually look for typos, or we might even be thinking 1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:11.080 about some of the usual red flags, like the fishy 1:18:11.160 --> 1:18:14.280 looking links, things of that sort, AI is making things 1:18:14.320 --> 1:18:17.240 a lot more believable, even when we think about cloning 1:18:17.320 --> 1:18:20.200 our voices, when we think about the way that we 1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:23.439 actually write out some of the things that we're seeing online. 1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:26.080 Let's say that your bank is actually sending you a 1:18:26.200 --> 1:18:29.559 message that can also seem like it came from your bank, 1:18:29.640 --> 1:18:33.400 but it can also actually be AI without typos and 1:18:33.560 --> 1:18:35.960 even with the same naming right. So we have to 1:18:36.040 --> 1:18:38.840 be very very careful and if in those situations where 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:42.800 we're not certain, calling your bank, calling whoever it is 1:18:42.880 --> 1:18:45.360 that you need to to verify. I actually did this 1:18:45.439 --> 1:18:48.320 with my brother last night, got a very odd email 1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:50.439 and I called him and said, Hey, this is this 1:18:50.560 --> 1:18:53.799 AUG just to you, and he's like, no, that's definitely 1:18:53.840 --> 1:18:57.519 a scarce. And so it's just taking that extra step 1:18:57.960 --> 1:19:01.160 before you click that link or before you download, because 1:19:01.479 --> 1:19:04.599 even just clicking that link can lead to it being 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:10.080 a very dangerous attempt at dealing your information. So what's 1:19:10.120 --> 1:19:12.280 the really good part about the survey that we're seeing 1:19:12.400 --> 1:19:15.160 and experts are actually really happy about, is that the 1:19:15.280 --> 1:19:18.880 majority of laptop players took action, and one of the 1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:22.440 most common ways that they took action was actually deleting 1:19:23.120 --> 1:19:26.160 or closing the window and just deleting the file. 1:19:26.320 --> 1:19:26.639 Gotcha. 1:19:26.960 --> 1:19:28.600 And what we have to think about is that that 1:19:29.680 --> 1:19:30.080 doing that. 1:19:30.240 --> 1:19:34.040 Without clicking the link, without being curious, right, So just 1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:36.479 getting rid of it right away, that could be one 1:19:36.520 --> 1:19:38.840 way to help you just stop that malware attimpt in 1:19:38.920 --> 1:19:41.479 its act. That is one attempt, but we have to 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:44.839 keep in mind that can't be curious and click links 1:19:44.920 --> 1:19:47.920 and do anything of that sort. Take another communication as it, 1:19:48.080 --> 1:19:50.040 make that phone call, make sure that it's legit. 1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:52.840 Yeah, and that basically dashon miltons I'm seen. It is 1:19:53.000 --> 1:19:56.760 multi factor authentication, right, it's MFA instead of like an 1:19:56.760 --> 1:19:59.400 inbound thing where hey, they text your cell number and 1:19:59.439 --> 1:20:01.120 here's the code and you enter it and we all 1:20:01.200 --> 1:20:02.920 you know, another layer. I got to do it, but 1:20:03.360 --> 1:20:06.120 it really really thinks makes things more secure. That's kind 1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:08.719 of like a human way of doing it. As calling 1:20:08.800 --> 1:20:11.200 the person and saying, hey, do you really need money 1:20:11.280 --> 1:20:13.840 as opposed to just clicking a link. It sounds like 1:20:13.880 --> 1:20:15.920 you're kind of describing pop ups there, a pop up 1:20:16.000 --> 1:20:16.439 still a thing. 1:20:17.800 --> 1:20:19.320 Yeah, we have to think about that. 1:20:19.439 --> 1:20:22.120 Pop ups are still a thing we usually see, like that, 1:20:22.439 --> 1:20:24.200 we have pop up blackers on our computers. 1:20:24.240 --> 1:20:26.200 You may have those enabled on your laptop right. 1:20:26.439 --> 1:20:29.680 Sometimes it can sneak past and that's something that we 1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:31.600 have to be a little more cautious about. Or you 1:20:31.720 --> 1:20:34.720 may notice that you're seeing pop ups because maybe that 1:20:34.840 --> 1:20:37.880 setting was actually triggered off. So that's something that you 1:20:38.000 --> 1:20:39.720 also might want to go back and check, just doing 1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:42.640 some of those behavioral checks, looking at seeing are your 1:20:42.680 --> 1:20:45.160 firewalls set up right? Is your pop up blacker on? 1:20:46.160 --> 1:20:48.960 Are all of your emails are spam? Are they going 1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:51.880 to your spam folder? Are you flagging them by spam? 1:20:52.320 --> 1:20:55.559 So it really is that, yes, people are seeing these things, 1:20:55.720 --> 1:20:57.720 but we have to remember that we do have other 1:20:57.840 --> 1:21:00.679 measures and features that we can use to actually make 1:21:00.960 --> 1:21:03.880 these things a little less noticeable, but still using guard 1:21:03.920 --> 1:21:04.920 due diligence of course. 1:21:05.520 --> 1:21:09.240 Yeah, and the survey you talked about different ways people 1:21:09.280 --> 1:21:12.120 are getting malware in your computer at least getting access 1:21:12.160 --> 1:21:14.479 to your data. Phishing emails number one or pop ups 1:21:14.760 --> 1:21:17.400 are still a thing. There's another one called branded spoofing, 1:21:17.439 --> 1:21:19.479 and I've seen these before. It looks realistic and they're 1:21:19.520 --> 1:21:21.760 hoping you do business with. You know, for example, if 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:24.040 I get something from a bank that I'm not banking with, 1:21:24.200 --> 1:21:27.600 I know that that that is false. But if I 1:21:27.680 --> 1:21:29.560 get something that happened to be someone I'm banking, but 1:21:29.760 --> 1:21:31.320 I pay that more attention than oh it's got their 1:21:31.360 --> 1:21:34.439 logo on it must be okay. Branded spoofing is really 1:21:34.479 --> 1:21:35.600 really dangerous. 1:21:36.200 --> 1:21:40.720 Yes, absolutely, even thinking about some of our everyday experiences, right, 1:21:41.040 --> 1:21:43.639 something as simple as a package, we left a package 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:45.880 for you. That's one that I saw a lot of 1:21:46.040 --> 1:21:49.840 the holidays. Just making sure that you fill out your 1:21:49.880 --> 1:21:52.840 information so that the package can be delivered, that's right. 1:21:53.439 --> 1:21:57.200 And even just looking at other attempts are data, So 1:21:57.320 --> 1:21:59.560 thinking about this whole lane. That's another one that we 1:21:59.640 --> 1:22:03.320 see here. Even just emails for job applications and jobs 1:22:03.320 --> 1:22:07.639 you might be interested in from companies that actually are onesday, 1:22:07.760 --> 1:22:11.080 actually might suit your profile, right, So just making sure 1:22:11.160 --> 1:22:14.000 that you take a very very very close look in 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:17.000 these cases, like think to yourself have I visited as 1:22:17.040 --> 1:22:17.759 hotly lately? 1:22:18.280 --> 1:22:18.960 Did I deliver? 1:22:19.880 --> 1:22:22.040 Am I actually looking for a package? Just all of 1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:25.439 these things, just really stopping in the act and thinking. 1:22:25.520 --> 1:22:28.080 And you can always get the information and write it down, 1:22:28.560 --> 1:22:31.719 delete it or close the file and then make sure 1:22:31.960 --> 1:22:34.400 that you just follow up and you might that that 1:22:34.600 --> 1:22:37.599 actually can really help you. When it comes to these 1:22:37.720 --> 1:22:41.280 fishing attempts malware, you have to be very mindful because 1:22:41.560 --> 1:22:44.000 they can sneak through even just a simple app download. 1:22:44.720 --> 1:22:47.000 But we have to be very very mindful and look 1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:49.400 at our devices that we spend so much time on 1:22:49.760 --> 1:22:52.640 and say it's something off here, and making sure that 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:53.880 nothing slips through the crack. 1:22:54.160 --> 1:22:56.000 We've all done it where you're just going through email, 1:22:56.080 --> 1:22:59.040 going to the lead to save open right, and you 1:22:59.160 --> 1:23:00.840 might click on a go okay, that's real. In the 1:23:00.880 --> 1:23:03.519 minute you click, of course, that's when the BS meter 1:23:03.600 --> 1:23:05.000 goes off in your head go no, no, no, no, no, 1:23:06.120 --> 1:23:07.920 that is it. If I click that link and let's 1:23:07.920 --> 1:23:10.560 say it is malware and I go, man, I quickly on, 1:23:11.120 --> 1:23:13.800 you know, block it out or just simply exit out, 1:23:13.880 --> 1:23:16.559 close to close the window. Is it ready too late? 1:23:18.760 --> 1:23:19.960 We really don't know. 1:23:20.760 --> 1:23:24.320 Malware comes in many different forms. So in some cases 1:23:24.479 --> 1:23:27.880 maybe yes. In some cases honestly maybe no. In that 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:31.679 particular case, here's what I recommend. Do a malware scan 1:23:31.800 --> 1:23:35.080 on your computer. Take the step as though malware has 1:23:35.120 --> 1:23:38.679 already gotten onto your computer. Definitely taking the second look. 1:23:39.000 --> 1:23:42.080 I'm disconnecting it from your WiFi so that other devices 1:23:42.120 --> 1:23:46.200 could potentially not be infected with the potential malware. Right, 1:23:46.560 --> 1:23:50.280 so really just looking at it as doing that viral 1:23:50.439 --> 1:23:53.799 can to see how far has this gone, doing several 1:23:54.040 --> 1:23:56.679 just to make sure that again nothing slipped through the cracks. 1:23:57.560 --> 1:24:00.240 We really have to think of it as taking every 1:24:00.280 --> 1:24:03.880 single step possible, because some things really can get very 1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:06.360 deep down into your computer that you might not realize, 1:24:06.479 --> 1:24:09.000 or that even that your anti virus software may not catch, 1:24:09.400 --> 1:24:11.920 or another malware scam may not catch. So it's very 1:24:12.120 --> 1:24:12.759 very sneaky. 1:24:13.160 --> 1:24:13.920 This isn't a. 1:24:15.600 --> 1:24:18.720 Way to make sure that we like panic or go 1:24:18.920 --> 1:24:21.320 and like do all of these extra steps, but we 1:24:21.439 --> 1:24:23.680 definitely want to make sure that if you have to 1:24:23.960 --> 1:24:27.519 that link run a o worre scam, just making sure 1:24:27.560 --> 1:24:30.840 that you go through take that extra step just in case. 1:24:31.000 --> 1:24:31.240 Got it. 1:24:32.080 --> 1:24:35.280 Finally, HP Apple, I believe are the two big laptop 1:24:35.760 --> 1:24:38.880 manufacturers right now and both have some level of built 1:24:38.920 --> 1:24:42.200 in security. Is that a false sense of security? And 1:24:42.479 --> 1:24:44.640 does it make things worse? And then secondly, is there 1:24:44.760 --> 1:24:47.559 something free you can download at c net that would 1:24:48.080 --> 1:24:49.880 just kind of make sure I don't have anything on there. 1:24:51.479 --> 1:24:56.280 So with HP and Mac or excuse me, Apple, we 1:24:56.439 --> 1:24:58.639 do have to think that, yes, the anti virus software 1:24:58.720 --> 1:25:01.160 protection is already built in, and it actually is pretty 1:25:01.200 --> 1:25:04.360 good based on Seena experts, you really don't need anything 1:25:04.479 --> 1:25:08.200 additional when it comes to anti virus software. However, if 1:25:08.240 --> 1:25:11.040 you would like to download something that is, let's say, 1:25:11.120 --> 1:25:14.120 has additional features like parental controls or things of that sort, 1:25:14.760 --> 1:25:18.200 it is maybe worth looking into an additional anti virus 1:25:18.280 --> 1:25:23.040 software given that your built in protection isn't enough or 1:25:23.200 --> 1:25:25.800 you feel like you need an additional feature. Besides that, 1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:27.720 I was just saying my mom who just got a 1:25:27.800 --> 1:25:31.160 new computer. You don't need newly anti virus software. What 1:25:31.280 --> 1:25:33.760 you have and built into your computer. Just double check 1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:36.360 that it's there, maybe in your settings. But the other 1:25:36.479 --> 1:25:39.360 things that I'll say is this, if you are looking 1:25:39.479 --> 1:25:42.840 at getting some additional software, or even just looking at 1:25:43.080 --> 1:25:46.240 what maldware stands, should I actually use or thinking about 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:48.519 some of these other tools. Seeing that does have a 1:25:48.640 --> 1:25:51.439 lot of great information based on our experts who have 1:25:51.600 --> 1:25:54.519 tested a lot of these tools to see what's the best, 1:25:54.560 --> 1:25:57.800 budget friendly, which one actually works best for these devices? 1:25:58.240 --> 1:26:00.920 Which one should you actually maybe if you have a 1:26:01.000 --> 1:26:04.120 larger family, you're depending on what you're doing, such as gaming, 1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:06.280 or maybe you spend a lot of time browsing on 1:26:06.360 --> 1:26:09.599 the web. There are free options, but there are also 1:26:09.720 --> 1:26:12.760 other paid Impire virus options along with other tools such 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:15.280 as password managers, VP and things of that sort that 1:26:15.360 --> 1:26:16.720 we talked about earlier on the call. 1:26:16.840 --> 1:26:19.200 Yeah, I've gotcha. I know this is probably a separate 1:26:19.280 --> 1:26:21.479 conversation and maybe this is the follow up to your 1:26:21.479 --> 1:26:24.839 piece and seeing at Dasha, But what about our phones? 1:26:25.960 --> 1:26:27.280 Do I need that for my phone. 1:26:28.880 --> 1:26:30.760 Right now? As what we have to think about it 1:26:30.880 --> 1:26:33.439 is is that some of these time security protections are 1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:37.439 indeed built into our phones. In most cases, especially some 1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:39.679 of the later phones. We have to think about those 1:26:39.800 --> 1:26:43.000 operating system updates that we often get saying, hey, you 1:26:43.040 --> 1:26:45.080 want to make sure that you download the Limbit software. 1:26:45.360 --> 1:26:47.560 A lot of that is because some of those security 1:26:47.600 --> 1:26:51.559 and privacy updates are often times built into those updates, right, 1:26:51.960 --> 1:26:54.080 but we still have to use the famdy dilligions that 1:26:54.240 --> 1:26:56.559 we would on our laptops as we would our tablets 1:26:56.600 --> 1:26:57.120 and our phone. 1:26:57.280 --> 1:26:59.720 Gotcha, all right? Good stuff to know. Dashaon Milton at 1:26:59.800 --> 1:27:02.800 c at the Consumer Insights Editor. She's our digital friend 1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:04.759 that pops on the showery once a while. Let's scares 1:27:04.800 --> 1:27:07.280 the crap out of us, is what she does. And 1:27:07.880 --> 1:27:10.000 now you know four or four warned is forearmed. Absolutely 1:27:10.000 --> 1:27:12.320 so some good advice. I appreciate you, thank you for 1:27:12.400 --> 1:27:15.360 having me. What has happened in this weekend, in particular 1:27:15.600 --> 1:27:17.560 old Rain. I think moving in later today. But the 1:27:17.600 --> 1:27:19.160 rest of the weekend looks pretty damn good, So get 1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:21.439 and enjoyed it with to eat, see, do, drink and 1:27:21.640 --> 1:27:24.280 whatever else. Ali Martin, The Local Loop is next seven 1:27:24.360 --> 1:27:26.080 hundred WLW Scott's Loanshaw. 1:27:29.200 --> 1:27:31.880 The weekend's coming young and you need to make the 1:27:32.000 --> 1:27:34.120 most of it. Where to go and what to do. 1:27:34.600 --> 1:27:36.960 She has the tips and insight to help you make 1:27:37.000 --> 1:27:39.920 it a super weekend. So listen up. This is the 1:27:40.120 --> 1:27:44.120 Local Loop with Allie Martin on seven hundred W L Jebbi. 1:27:44.240 --> 1:27:49.320 A very serious today, on a very special local Loop, 1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:52.840 we dressed serious issues. No, we really don't. We talk 1:27:52.840 --> 1:27:54.360 about liquor and fun and things like that. 1:27:54.479 --> 1:27:56.479 Good morning morning, I agree. 1:27:56.600 --> 1:28:00.479 I see the Masters on here in the background. Is 1:28:00.880 --> 1:28:03.000 this a big weekend for you or are you really 1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:03.519 dialed in? 1:28:04.240 --> 1:28:04.280 So? 1:28:04.439 --> 1:28:06.559 Yeah, I watch a good portion of it, but I'd 1:28:06.640 --> 1:28:08.640 rather be out golf. I'm more like you know, I 1:28:08.800 --> 1:28:10.760 like watching sports, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather 1:28:10.800 --> 1:28:13.680 I've been doing it than watching it. But it's the Masters, 1:28:13.840 --> 1:28:16.000 and you gotta watch the Masters. 1:28:16.320 --> 1:28:19.240 Have you ever gone to a golf tournament? 1:28:19.400 --> 1:28:21.800 Yes, yes, I've been to a few, and it's absolutely fast. 1:28:21.800 --> 1:28:24.519 And the first one I was at was during cod 1:28:24.600 --> 1:28:28.439 well right after COVID and so it was very sparsely attended. 1:28:28.520 --> 1:28:31.920 That was in Charlotte and it was amazing. But I've 1:28:31.960 --> 1:28:34.519 been to obviously Columbus or a jack thing. I've been. 1:28:35.120 --> 1:28:37.519 I've been to a few, so it's a lot of fun. 1:28:37.720 --> 1:28:39.720 I mean, you know me, all of a sudden, I 1:28:39.880 --> 1:28:41.880 went on this golf kick in the summertime. 1:28:42.000 --> 1:28:43.320 No, and I too. 1:28:43.479 --> 1:28:44.719 I went up to the one in Columbus. 1:28:44.840 --> 1:28:47.240 And if you have, if you as in the listener, 1:28:47.240 --> 1:28:49.200 if you've never and you like golf and you've never 1:28:49.280 --> 1:28:49.920 been to a tournament. 1:28:50.000 --> 1:28:50.360 It's cool. 1:28:50.640 --> 1:28:52.800 Yeah, you just walk around and get exercise. You know, 1:28:52.840 --> 1:28:55.600 you get fairly close to the players, and yeah, I. 1:28:55.600 --> 1:28:56.000 Mean I don't. 1:28:56.520 --> 1:28:58.559 I'm kind of the same way with tennis though, right 1:28:58.680 --> 1:29:01.240 I played girl playing tennis. I love tennis, but I 1:29:01.520 --> 1:29:05.280 don't necessarily always watch it. However, when the atp rolls 1:29:05.280 --> 1:29:08.320 around you know where in. 1:29:08.400 --> 1:29:09.439 Person, there's no doubt about it. 1:29:09.600 --> 1:29:13.360 Tennis and hunker down, watch some watch some golf. This 1:29:13.439 --> 1:29:14.760 weekend is on the to do list? 1:29:16.240 --> 1:29:17.800 What do you got going on this weekend? What are 1:29:17.840 --> 1:29:18.479 we talking about? 1:29:18.920 --> 1:29:19.240 Okay? 1:29:19.479 --> 1:29:22.880 All right, So after years of market research, and you 1:29:22.960 --> 1:29:24.840 know me, I'm a whiskey gal, you are, I talk 1:29:24.880 --> 1:29:27.200 about this all the time, a whiskey gal. I appreciate 1:29:27.240 --> 1:29:29.800 a really good cocktail and I love hospitality. After years 1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:32.679 of market research, I have finally honed it, honed down 1:29:33.320 --> 1:29:38.720 the best old fashions in Cincinnati and northern Kentucky and 1:29:38.880 --> 1:29:42.680 really focusing in on cocktail bars because there are a 1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:45.360 lot of bad old fashions in the I have a 1:29:45.439 --> 1:29:49.040 full list of criteria as to what makes a good. 1:29:48.960 --> 1:29:51.760 Old that one may ask, why are you going with 1:29:51.880 --> 1:29:55.479 the because old fashions to me, and bourbon drinks generally 1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:57.120 tend to be and I know it's not true, but 1:29:57.240 --> 1:29:59.559 tend to be. People think a little bit more fall 1:29:59.800 --> 1:30:01.640 in winter than spring, and no. 1:30:01.680 --> 1:30:02.960 This isn't all year round thing for me. 1:30:03.680 --> 1:30:05.599 I'm a bourbon person. 1:30:05.680 --> 1:30:08.240 So should should I? Should we put this on hold 1:30:08.280 --> 1:30:09.280 and wait till because. 1:30:09.040 --> 1:30:10.800 With the Masters, I think you want to be talking 1:30:10.800 --> 1:30:12.240 about minjus. 1:30:12.439 --> 1:30:13.920 Know that's next week, that's. 1:30:15.280 --> 1:30:17.880 We should be talking about it. And cheese martini? Is 1:30:17.920 --> 1:30:18.360 that you should? 1:30:18.920 --> 1:30:23.679 Which is a horrible, horrible life decision. 1:30:24.080 --> 1:30:25.760 There's never a moment where I'm like, you know, what 1:30:25.840 --> 1:30:27.320 I want is a pimento cheese? 1:30:27.400 --> 1:30:27.680 Is there? 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:31.080 I see again, I've been golfing for like ten years now, 1:30:31.120 --> 1:30:36.680 but is there a Master's drink? There should be? 1:30:36.840 --> 1:30:36.960 Right? 1:30:37.080 --> 1:30:40.240 I think there is actually no idea what that I 1:30:40.320 --> 1:30:42.840 know though I don't know. 1:30:43.240 --> 1:30:48.760 I'm trying to google transfusion masters golf cocktail? 1:30:49.000 --> 1:30:52.000 Okay, right? Is the official? What's the official cocktail? 1:30:52.840 --> 1:30:56.080 Want spell cocktail right first? To get it? If you 1:30:56.120 --> 1:30:57.920 had to take a guess, what do you think? Or 1:30:57.960 --> 1:30:59.000 if you had to come up with. 1:30:59.040 --> 1:30:59.840 One, what do you think it would? 1:31:00.040 --> 1:31:01.920 Georgia, I don't know a peach ballini. 1:31:02.120 --> 1:31:02.519 Here we go. 1:31:03.000 --> 1:31:11.400 What the azalia and azalea azalea? So which vodka, lemonade grenadine. 1:31:12.240 --> 1:31:15.479 So it's basically an adult Shirley Temple with a little 1:31:15.479 --> 1:31:22.040 bit of lemonade daily. There's no tea John daily with tea, 1:31:22.920 --> 1:31:25.560 So this is vodka lemonade grenadine. 1:31:26.120 --> 1:31:28.519 Sounds very refreshing and the grenadine just for colored. 1:31:29.080 --> 1:31:29.280 Yeah. 1:31:29.640 --> 1:31:31.360 To me, honestly, it reminds me more of a Shirley. 1:31:31.960 --> 1:31:32.880 You need some soda and. 1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:34.960 That's pretty basic. 1:31:35.080 --> 1:31:37.720 That's so sweet lemonade in grenadine. 1:31:38.760 --> 1:31:40.320 Okay, I don't know. You think you have a drink 1:31:40.520 --> 1:31:42.120 like Masters has everything else. 1:31:42.160 --> 1:31:43.679 Okay, this then gets me back. 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:47.080 And cheese all of stuff to all of sudden something right, 1:31:47.360 --> 1:31:47.680 I don't know. 1:31:48.040 --> 1:31:51.320 Martini sounds like it should be because it end we 1:31:51.439 --> 1:31:52.160 need to change this. 1:31:53.840 --> 1:31:56.280 Official drink. Okay, let's talk about old fashioned, not this. 1:31:56.520 --> 1:31:58.360 And this is why this is why we never get 1:31:58.400 --> 1:31:59.840 everything done we want to talk about, because we go 1:31:59.880 --> 1:32:00.559 to a rabbit hole. 1:32:00.760 --> 1:32:03.280 This is because we're changing everybody else's way of business. 1:32:03.840 --> 1:32:05.640 And this is why I continue to talk about the 1:32:05.680 --> 1:32:08.920 old fashion because it's the staple cocktail of life. 1:32:09.520 --> 1:32:12.200 Right, we're not talking. 1:32:12.920 --> 1:32:15.960 You got your food pyramid and at the top is 1:32:16.320 --> 1:32:17.439 really it's a cherry. 1:32:17.640 --> 1:32:20.760 It is one hundred proof whiskey. And let me tell you, 1:32:21.200 --> 1:32:22.719 let me let me break down the crater. 1:32:24.080 --> 1:32:24.320 Driving. 1:32:25.360 --> 1:32:27.360 Number one, because of what we just talked about. 1:32:27.439 --> 1:32:31.040 Not too sweet for some reason, so many places make 1:32:31.280 --> 1:32:32.759 old fashions as a sugar bottom. 1:32:32.800 --> 1:32:33.519 We're not having it. 1:32:33.880 --> 1:32:35.920 A And also, you got to make a housemade syrup. 1:32:36.200 --> 1:32:39.719 It's preferred, but also use it sparingly. Number two thoughtful 1:32:39.840 --> 1:32:42.519 whiskey choice. Ideally, it needs to be one hundred proof. 1:32:42.680 --> 1:32:45.120 It's gotta get it's gotta have some backbone. Once you 1:32:45.160 --> 1:32:47.120 get to the eighty proof. I'm like to offset the 1:32:48.160 --> 1:32:48.960 facts facts. 1:32:49.080 --> 1:32:51.280 The whiskey is the star. Choose accordingly. 1:32:52.000 --> 1:32:54.240 Uh, for the love of God, do not muddle an 1:32:54.280 --> 1:32:58.400 orange in your old fashion and put a really good, 1:32:58.520 --> 1:33:01.640 high quality cherry in there. My the cherry should not 1:33:01.840 --> 1:33:04.240 be as vibrant as the ESPN should look like the 1:33:04.320 --> 1:33:08.559 red red like the new Jerseys. No, a luxado cherry. 1:33:08.479 --> 1:33:11.200 Very nice, that's more of that. You got a dark, deep, 1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:14.240 dark teeth flavor. The syrup is a little I like 1:33:14.320 --> 1:33:15.840 to put a little splash of the syrup in. 1:33:15.880 --> 1:33:19.920 The sometimes that could just be your simple syrup. Number 1:33:19.960 --> 1:33:23.000 four high quality ice. Why this is important is because 1:33:23.040 --> 1:33:24.760 you need to keep the integrity of the flavor and 1:33:24.840 --> 1:33:25.960 it melts slower. 1:33:26.479 --> 1:33:28.599 So if you can get that really good crystal clear. 1:33:28.479 --> 1:33:33.360 Ice to that. Number five glassware and presentation. I appreciate 1:33:33.640 --> 1:33:37.080 really good glassware. It's just it's the ambiance. 1:33:37.360 --> 1:33:40.599 It's it's everything what you're looking for, Like Waterford, when 1:33:40.640 --> 1:33:41.200 you say. 1:33:41.080 --> 1:33:43.680 Something a little different, it's gotta have a little pizzazz I. 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:47.040 Don't you know those big, big, heavy highball glasses that 1:33:47.160 --> 1:33:48.960 you could totally it could be a weapon. 1:33:49.160 --> 1:33:52.920 Yeah, I'm you want a nice thing. 1:33:52.920 --> 1:33:57.040 Something because it's a classic impress me, wow me, which 1:33:57.120 --> 1:33:59.240 then leads me to number six. The vibe of the 1:33:59.479 --> 1:34:02.160 of the tablishment matters. And that's why this is a 1:34:02.280 --> 1:34:05.599 very important list because all of these places have vibe. 1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:07.840 They have they check the boxes in some way. 1:34:08.000 --> 1:34:10.160 Do you think maybe this is why you're still single? 1:34:10.920 --> 1:34:11.240 Am I. 1:34:12.760 --> 1:34:13.120 Pressure? 1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:16.360 I have a boyfriend, she's breaking it down by glass 1:34:16.439 --> 1:34:19.120 or there's he has Brendany has so much pressure on him. 1:34:19.120 --> 1:34:19.800 Does this man know? 1:34:20.040 --> 1:34:20.080 No? 1:34:20.200 --> 1:34:21.800 No, no, this is why we work because he's a 1:34:21.840 --> 1:34:22.439 whiskey guy. 1:34:22.680 --> 1:34:26.680 So he appreciates, he appreciates my opinion, and he's a 1:34:26.720 --> 1:34:27.799 lot of pressure. 1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:29.320 It's called standards. 1:34:30.560 --> 1:34:33.760 It's got to be between the suite and you should. 1:34:33.840 --> 1:34:36.559 It's called hospitality, and it's called setting the bar high. 1:34:38.520 --> 1:34:40.160 You know what I just need by the time I'm 1:34:40.200 --> 1:34:42.439 ready for a drink. I'm ready for a drink. You know, 1:34:42.520 --> 1:34:44.200 watching them see too but it all. 1:34:44.160 --> 1:34:46.120 Okay, all right, Well, let's let's land the plane. 1:34:46.400 --> 1:34:48.360 The guy with the neck beard in the in the 1:34:48.680 --> 1:34:52.000 denim apron and he's got the ironic heat. Yeah, he's 1:34:52.040 --> 1:34:55.479 lighting stuff. He's got a beaker and he's swirling it around. 1:34:55.560 --> 1:34:57.479 And yes, landing the plane. 1:34:57.520 --> 1:35:00.439 Give me the alcohol, and you know how long you're 1:35:00.439 --> 1:35:01.960 actually supposed to stir old. 1:35:01.840 --> 1:35:03.360 Fashion mighty, let's go. 1:35:03.640 --> 1:35:07.160 I'm thirsty three minutes later, Oh lord, pour it into 1:35:07.200 --> 1:35:09.639 the glass. And here are my top five places. Number 1:35:09.680 --> 1:35:13.040 one the aquifer at the New Riff. It's their tasting room, 1:35:13.120 --> 1:35:16.160 third floor. We've talked about it. When that sun shines 1:35:16.240 --> 1:35:19.880 in during happy hour, it is chef kiss. 1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:21.040 It's God's flashlight. 1:35:21.240 --> 1:35:23.920 It has got and you could probably film your Christmas card. 1:35:23.920 --> 1:35:24.720 Get your Christmas card. 1:35:24.800 --> 1:35:25.280 Floor there. 1:35:25.680 --> 1:35:26.720 Number two smoke. 1:35:26.640 --> 1:35:29.080 Justice really that Oh yeah, okay, that's a big bourbon 1:35:29.120 --> 1:35:31.280 barbecue whiskey library. 1:35:31.800 --> 1:35:33.240 When you have a ladder and you have to get out, 1:35:33.320 --> 1:35:33.960 you get a whiskey. 1:35:34.160 --> 1:35:37.360 You know, never leaves there. I know, only to go 1:35:37.439 --> 1:35:39.280 to the grail. Those are the two places you can 1:35:39.320 --> 1:35:39.600 find it. 1:35:39.760 --> 1:35:42.400 Don't get old Fashion. We love grail, but that's that's 1:35:42.479 --> 1:35:45.080 not it. Lost and found ot R. 1:35:45.640 --> 1:35:47.880 It's in an alleyway and over the right. Yeah, if 1:35:47.880 --> 1:35:50.240 you're not looking for it. There's a little neon sign. 1:35:50.720 --> 1:35:52.120 That's that's it out front. 1:35:52.280 --> 1:35:55.639 And actually I have to admit I think this might 1:35:55.760 --> 1:35:58.439 be my top Old Fashion on the list in this 1:35:58.680 --> 1:36:02.920 moment because they's a clear glassware and the ice is clear. 1:36:03.360 --> 1:36:04.679 It's wild, it's good. 1:36:05.240 --> 1:36:08.320 And they use old granddad bottled and bond hand proof 1:36:08.360 --> 1:36:09.640 all right, so it's a good one. 1:36:09.720 --> 1:36:09.880 Huh. 1:36:09.960 --> 1:36:12.559 Wise guy lounge ogr Oh. 1:36:12.680 --> 1:36:14.680 I love I love Wise because you go down, you 1:36:14.760 --> 1:36:16.720 get slice of pizza, and then you go and go drink, 1:36:17.439 --> 1:36:18.800 and then you go down and get another slice and 1:36:18.840 --> 1:36:19.320 you go back up. 1:36:19.360 --> 1:36:20.479 Old fashion and pizza. 1:36:21.120 --> 1:36:22.040 I don't know something about it. 1:36:22.120 --> 1:36:23.320 With the garlic bread and the garlic. 1:36:23.439 --> 1:36:25.760 I'm rather to go right now, just let me bring you, 1:36:26.680 --> 1:36:27.160 just let me know. 1:36:27.360 --> 1:36:28.479 And it's cheap, it's affordable. 1:36:29.360 --> 1:36:32.280 Last One Knowledge Bar in Covington. I talk about the 1:36:32.320 --> 1:36:34.120 spot a lot, but they also just get it right. 1:36:34.479 --> 1:36:36.920 They do use two different spirits, so they have a 1:36:36.920 --> 1:36:39.080 little bit of a twist with theirs. 1:36:39.320 --> 1:36:41.280 And those are my friends that this is a lot of. 1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:45.120 Market research and she is an old fashioned snob. 1:36:45.320 --> 1:36:47.360 Check out my video. I'm proud of it. It's on 1:36:47.439 --> 1:36:48.080 social media. 1:36:48.800 --> 1:36:50.400 It gives a full load on if you also want 1:36:50.439 --> 1:36:51.160 to check out these. 1:36:52.360 --> 1:36:54.640 I've been leaning. I was a Manhattan guy and now 1:36:54.640 --> 1:36:56.400 I'm kind of leaning more towards the old fashion. But 1:36:56.479 --> 1:36:58.160 when I do a Manhattan I put a little splash 1:36:58.280 --> 1:36:59.680 of like Ammoraretto or. 1:37:01.320 --> 1:37:02.799 Like that Amreto. Always. 1:37:03.200 --> 1:37:06.000 Here's the thing is, the old fashion, Billie isn't actually 1:37:06.080 --> 1:37:10.240 bad and like an orange lookur which could be good too, yes, 1:37:10.479 --> 1:37:10.760 but not. 1:37:10.800 --> 1:37:11.519 A muddled orange. 1:37:11.640 --> 1:37:15.240 And the beauty behind old fashions is you really could 1:37:15.280 --> 1:37:18.920 tweak it however you want. Technically, you could switch out 1:37:18.920 --> 1:37:21.840 your spirit. You could do a tequila old fashion for 1:37:22.000 --> 1:37:23.719 the Masters if. 1:37:23.600 --> 1:37:25.639 You wanted to don tequila. 1:37:25.680 --> 1:37:27.920 And so it's a martini with the stuff. 1:37:28.120 --> 1:37:30.120 Maybe the Southwest I guess it would be all right, 1:37:30.240 --> 1:37:34.280 so we have exhausted the old fashioned topic. Yes, of course, 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:35.920 event wise, what's going on this weekend? 1:37:36.000 --> 1:37:39.439 Okay, this is actually a really fun one. I don't 1:37:39.479 --> 1:37:41.639 know how in the socials you are, but it has 1:37:42.040 --> 1:37:45.760 kind of become viral where men and young men who 1:37:45.880 --> 1:37:48.599 might have daughters are learning to braid hair. 1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:52.719 Which I think is a very good skill. Sure, there's 1:37:52.920 --> 1:37:55.080 just if you're a girl dad, girl dad, Yeah, your 1:37:55.080 --> 1:37:55.559 a girl dad. 1:37:55.680 --> 1:37:58.200 This is great so that I did my daughters. I've 1:37:58.240 --> 1:37:58.479 done that. 1:37:59.080 --> 1:38:01.560 It's not hard, no, it's not, but just taking the 1:38:01.600 --> 1:38:04.439 time to learn it is cool. And Ryan Geist is 1:38:04.560 --> 1:38:07.240 running with this trend, which I think is awesome. And 1:38:07.400 --> 1:38:09.519 they have two nights. It's Friday and Saturday and tonight 1:38:09.600 --> 1:38:11.720 it is actually sold out, but tomorrow as well, and 1:38:11.760 --> 1:38:14.479 they're doing a thing just braids and bruise And it's 1:38:14.520 --> 1:38:17.519 a two hour hands on event where you're drinking beer 1:38:18.000 --> 1:38:21.400 and you're learning the basics of honestly just like braids 1:38:21.600 --> 1:38:25.080 and buns and ponytails. And it's you're just gonna be 1:38:25.160 --> 1:38:27.920 hanging out with probably a lot of other dads too, 1:38:28.479 --> 1:38:31.599 and learning the skill and you get to drink beer 1:38:31.640 --> 1:38:33.640 at the same time and connect with other people who 1:38:33.720 --> 1:38:36.400 might be experiencing the same thing, might be in the 1:38:36.439 --> 1:38:37.360 same stage of life. 1:38:37.479 --> 1:38:40.280 Now, is this white dad hair or black there? Because 1:38:40.280 --> 1:38:41.439 that's a whole different level. 1:38:41.600 --> 1:38:42.679 That's actually a very good question. 1:38:42.800 --> 1:38:43.519 It is a good question. 1:38:43.840 --> 1:38:46.560 Does not in their rundown, it does not say my 1:38:46.720 --> 1:38:49.120 guess is knowing Ryan Geist, they probably have a wide 1:38:49.240 --> 1:38:52.160 range of different hair textures and stuff, so they're gonna 1:38:52.160 --> 1:38:54.480 have a whole bunch of different mannequins and supplies. 1:38:54.680 --> 1:38:55.680 And but you are. 1:38:57.479 --> 1:38:58.519 A whole different level. 1:38:58.680 --> 1:39:02.200 Yeah, yeah, keeping it moist texture is totally different the 1:39:02.240 --> 1:39:02.640 whole thing. 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:03.880 Mm hmmmm hmmm. 1:39:04.160 --> 1:39:07.479 And props to all girl dads out there who are 1:39:07.800 --> 1:39:10.640 trying to fa holding down the fort. So if that 1:39:10.760 --> 1:39:13.679 interests you and it's something that you have also seen 1:39:13.760 --> 1:39:15.479 on social because it has been trending. 1:39:16.280 --> 1:39:18.439 Ryan Geist is doing this Braids and bruise. 1:39:18.720 --> 1:39:21.639 They still have tickets available for tomorrow Saturday from six 1:39:21.760 --> 1:39:25.320 d eight's just two hours and uh yeah, it's time. 1:39:25.320 --> 1:39:27.799 There's a couple of ti couple participants. 1:39:28.120 --> 1:39:30.760 Dad goes and you know, and your hands on your 1:39:30.800 --> 1:39:32.639 braid and your girl's hair and you're both are drunk. 1:39:32.680 --> 1:39:33.280 It's great. 1:39:34.800 --> 1:39:37.240 On a good old fashioned Dad. 1:39:37.360 --> 1:39:39.800 My hair is doing a terrible I don't at right hair. 1:39:40.000 --> 1:39:40.479 Just have a beer. 1:39:40.800 --> 1:39:45.200 It looks a little loteside, it's fine, it looks really good. 1:39:45.720 --> 1:39:47.519 This is where you just throw it up at You're 1:39:47.560 --> 1:39:50.200 gonna have to drive home. I thought you're the designator, Dad, 1:39:50.240 --> 1:39:56.280 I'm seven. You need to learn I'm seven, but I'm seven. Okay, 1:39:56.400 --> 1:39:58.519 there you go. So that's two nights at rhine Geist. 1:39:58.560 --> 1:39:59.040 That's fun. 1:39:59.320 --> 1:40:01.400 Yeah, just I thought that was really fun and something 1:40:01.400 --> 1:40:05.559 different in mys and uh yeah, all right, hang out 1:40:05.560 --> 1:40:08.400 with bucks perhaps nothing right, pretty much good time. 1:40:08.320 --> 1:40:11.680 Pretty much free, pretty much free. Let's talk. 1:40:12.000 --> 1:40:15.320 Well, so okay, so we're actually gonna go over to 1:40:15.320 --> 1:40:18.519 the west side, so the East Price Hill Incline District. 1:40:18.800 --> 1:40:20.840 So do you remember some wine bar? 1:40:21.520 --> 1:40:23.320 Yes? I remember, yeah, so that was there, but I 1:40:23.360 --> 1:40:24.679 remember you mentioning it. Yes, yeah. 1:40:24.680 --> 1:40:27.120 Stable to the community for years and years, and it 1:40:27.240 --> 1:40:30.720 closed in March of twenty twenty five. But now there's 1:40:30.760 --> 1:40:34.200 a new spot that's taking over that same location called 1:40:34.400 --> 1:40:38.000 Around the Table. For a little bit of context, there's 1:40:38.000 --> 1:40:40.920 a scal by. The founder is Julie Dowdy, and she 1:40:41.280 --> 1:40:43.720 had been in o'brienville for a long time, okay, with 1:40:43.880 --> 1:40:45.680 running a business called The Art of Entertaining, and she 1:40:45.720 --> 1:40:48.320 would do interactive cooking classes and all of all of 1:40:48.360 --> 1:40:51.680 the things in hospitality. And she decided to piece all 1:40:51.720 --> 1:40:54.040 of this together and find a new brick and mortar 1:40:54.080 --> 1:40:57.240 which is in that same spot again. It's called Around 1:40:57.280 --> 1:41:00.519 the Table, and tonight is one of the first events 1:41:00.560 --> 1:41:03.439 that she's putting on, and it's called Vine and Dine 1:41:03.640 --> 1:41:07.240 and it's a night owl blues band, but it's a 1:41:07.400 --> 1:41:11.680 dinner jazz, New Orleans jazz. You know me, jazz and 1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:13.240 dinner jazz and cocktails. 1:41:13.320 --> 1:41:14.519 Here we are, uh. 1:41:14.800 --> 1:41:17.479 And tonight's the night that they're launching it. And it's 1:41:17.479 --> 1:41:20.360 gonna be from five thirty to nine thirty and live 1:41:20.479 --> 1:41:21.200 music from. 1:41:21.120 --> 1:41:23.719 Six to nine. They're bringing in a New Orleans French 1:41:23.840 --> 1:41:25.240 quarter vibe band. 1:41:26.040 --> 1:41:30.559 It's gonna be creole food, shared tables, just really relaxed pacing. 1:41:30.720 --> 1:41:32.759 So that's what she wants to bring to the table 1:41:32.920 --> 1:41:35.920 is a different type of dining experience, kind of like 1:41:36.080 --> 1:41:40.240 deconstructing love it what the normal cliche restaurant vibe is. 1:41:40.880 --> 1:41:41.000 Uh. 1:41:41.200 --> 1:41:44.240 And this is the start of it all, and you know, 1:41:44.400 --> 1:41:44.920 moving forward. 1:41:44.960 --> 1:41:47.120 She wants to do different styles of Sunday brunch and 1:41:47.280 --> 1:41:49.400 more shared charcouterie type events. 1:41:50.120 --> 1:41:52.440 And I'm sure continuing to bring in different. 1:41:52.240 --> 1:41:54.400 And you had me at the you know, live jazz 1:41:54.520 --> 1:41:55.400 bluespecially blues. 1:41:56.000 --> 1:41:56.600 We gotta do that. 1:41:56.800 --> 1:42:00.800 Will you talk about I know, I know, Michelle. 1:42:00.640 --> 1:42:05.200 Let's go, I won't have fun. No, she lost shell. 1:42:06.000 --> 1:42:08.719 Oh my gosh, she's a perfect Tank's awesome. 1:42:09.240 --> 1:42:11.519 All right, Well, we had like maybe fifteen seconds here. 1:42:11.560 --> 1:42:13.639 I know you wanted to plug the zoo. Zoo blooms. 1:42:13.840 --> 1:42:15.519 I know, because we only have so much time, and 1:42:15.520 --> 1:42:16.360 it's throughout the month that you. 1:42:16.400 --> 1:42:17.599 Talked about so much. 1:42:17.840 --> 1:42:20.720 I know, zoo blooms, and we were ranked number three 1:42:20.800 --> 1:42:22.639 best flower festival in America. 1:42:22.760 --> 1:42:25.479 So at the Cincinnati Zoo. So get on it. If 1:42:25.520 --> 1:42:28.439 you've never seen weather looks perfect. 1:42:28.800 --> 1:42:32.120 All of the two they have over one hundred thousand tulips, 1:42:32.479 --> 1:42:34.599 so then it's and then add all the other flowers 1:42:34.640 --> 1:42:37.360 on top of it. It's millions of flowers and it's 1:42:37.400 --> 1:42:39.280 truly a psight to see. And this is the time 1:42:39.320 --> 1:42:42.439 where just everything comes to blossom and the animals, you know, 1:42:42.560 --> 1:42:44.519 it's like they're starting to come out of their little 1:42:44.760 --> 1:42:48.360 little caves and then on Thursdays they do tunes and 1:42:48.439 --> 1:42:51.800 blooms and this is just yeah, it's fun six to 1:42:52.000 --> 1:42:54.679 eight thirty. It's a different band and a different act 1:42:55.080 --> 1:42:58.080 every single Thursday, and it's your chance to just kind 1:42:58.120 --> 1:42:59.400 of launch into the zoo. 1:42:59.680 --> 1:43:02.320 Love it, get you some, get you some zero tech 1:43:02.360 --> 1:43:08.960 and Kleenex. If you're a lerning, well that's the whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:43:09.720 --> 1:43:12.120 Suda fed is your sponsor for Allie Martin and the 1:43:12.160 --> 1:43:14.280 local Loop here on seven hundred w o W. 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