1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: The Don's Appliances Studios where Pittsburgh shops for appliances. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: This is WDD Pittsburgh. It is the DVE. 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Morning Show, Ladies and gentlemen, and joining us right now, 4 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: sponsor by the Gateway Clipper. It's the best way to 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: a Steelers gamee from the Metal Arc podcasting platform in 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: the Football America Podcast. 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentle Dave Damn check on the East coast 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: this morning. 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: Thanks safely near and on the rivers of Pittsburgh, not 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: veering out into the Atlantic Ocean down near the Caribbean. 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: Who knows what might happen to be down there. How 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: are you, everybody. It's a pleasure to see you. I'm 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: joining you from South Beach, Miami, Florida. 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you go to the Dolphins game last night? 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: I didn't go to the Dolphins game. I was into 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: do the The Levatard Show, and it was it was 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: a a time aside from the fact that over my 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: head last night was the ravens looming like like grim reality, 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: hanging like like the slur like the sword of Damn 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: damnitles the. 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: Dam over my head. 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's that's kind of like that's like for 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: for you guys like, oh my god, wait, what day 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: is it? Uh yeah, that's where we gotta get damn 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: ship the sword of Damna shit hanging over our head. 26 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: It's time to talk to him about these Pictsburgh Steelers. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know game. I'm I'm real. 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: Ravens look undead now, they like they did la Mar 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: Jackson is Michael Jackson and thriller when he turns into 30 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 4: a zombie. He's back through four touchdowns last night. I 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: don't like it. 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was there was nothing good. If you're a 33 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: Steelers fan watching what happened down in in South Beach, 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: and you know, I feel like I can kind of 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: talk myself into I talked to wilmerd dings own Kent 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 3: Brown a couple of days ago, and he said, he's like, 37 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: come on, man, you know what's gonna happen. He's like, 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: this is a Tomlin special. This is what he does. 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: You know he's gonna this is the kind of game 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 3: he wins. And he seduced me into it. And I'm 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: willing to say right now, I absolutely can see the 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: Steelers winning this game. 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: We all can, all of us think this is going 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: to happen. Not tangibly. It's just the Tomlin thing. No, 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: that they're not supposed to win. There's no area where 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 4: they have the advantage. 47 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: And yes, zero empirical evidence that they will win this game. 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: But just because we've seen this fish before, we know 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. And then what like what I 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: predicted was going to happen, was we were going to 51 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: go all the way to the end of the season, 52 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: like you know, win one, lose one. You know, lose 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: the game you shouldn't win the one. You should lose 54 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: the game you should win, win the game you shouldn't, 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: and then it'll be us against the Dolphins, and we 56 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: have to win that game in order to have a 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: chance to stay in contention, and they'll thump us. 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that'll be perfect. You know, Like I say, 59 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: as we as we sit here, I'm fifty one percy, 60 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a toll and special. They're gonna beat 61 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: the Coats. Then the other side of it is, there's 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 3: no reason based on what we've seen that they're going 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: to I mean, did we talked about it last week 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: that they lost the game that decrepit Joe Flacco. 65 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: In the interim yes, yeah, we did talk about that 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: they got. 67 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: In the interim, they got housed by the Green Bay Packers, 68 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: when everything leading up to that game was all about 69 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: that this is this is the game. Well, Aaron didn't. 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: He said it was not he didn't care. It didn't 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: make it. 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: It was not a big person play. 73 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: He didn't care. I suspect it might have been had 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: they won the game. But either way, they they got 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 3: whipped and it had nothing to do with Aaron and 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: had nothing to do with the offense. Once again, which 77 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: is fine. It's not like it's, you know, the idea 78 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: that now we're having these discussions. It's not a top 79 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: three in the league offense. Let's not get nuts everybody, 80 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: but no, but with. 81 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: A historic defense, that offense should have been more than adequate. 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: The offense, well, Aaron Rodgers is the least of our worries. 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: And the fact that you say they got whipped by 84 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: the Packers when they were leading going into the fourth 85 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: quarter is like unimaginable to me that Mike Tomlin's defenses 86 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: are breaking down this much in the fourth quarter. 87 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 4: Did you see Williamson? I was just about to bring 88 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 4: that up. That is the most alarming stat I've seen 89 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: about this defense. 90 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: Is it seventy four percent? Now it's forty seven percent. 91 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: Of the points scored against the Steelers are in the 92 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 4: fourth quarter. 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: Wow, I did not see that, and that's that's gross. 94 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: And you know, I'm sure people of a certain age remember, 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: you know, you don't have to go back to you know, 96 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: the days at Chaz No. Remember Cower had that crazy 97 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: stat like up by eleven, never loses. I think ended 98 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: up maybe losing one or two. But I mean that 99 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: was basically standard that if they got up eleven points, 100 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: the game was over and it's a different air and 101 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: all that, and so you should ask to risk it. 102 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: But nevertheless, the uh, you know, they're up at the 103 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: half by nine, and I saw I was, you know, 104 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: scrolling around, and I saw some screen grab that I 105 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: had completely forgotten. Right before the end of the third quarter, 106 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: the Stealers were up nineteen seventeen still and the game 107 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: was such a blowout in real time, like twenty minutes later, 108 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: it's it's hard to fathom, and you know it. You 109 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 3: hear Tucker Kraft right after the game. By the way, 110 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: can I just say very quickly like to be a 111 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: curmudget here on Halloween. Another thing I'm a curmudget about 112 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: is aw up, don't just stop with the asking me 113 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: to put on a costume. All right, okay, okay, I 114 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 3: just I just stopped bugging me about it. Everybody, what's 115 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: your costume? 116 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: Because I want to listen. I got dulled up when 118 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: I was eleven years old. I'm not eleven anyway. This 119 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: this this delusional kind of like infantaalizing of people that 120 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: Tucker crafting for. 121 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: It was nice. Did you hear? 122 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: It was National tight Ends Day? 123 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: Everybody? 124 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, National tight Ends Day. Who gives a craft? 125 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 3: But what is the what do we have to honor 126 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 3: a non existent thing like a holly? 127 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: It was? 128 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: It was National National tight Ends Day. 129 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 6: So we got you an award. 130 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 3: We got Yeah, I'm so proud of all the other. 131 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 6: Tight ends. 132 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: Vomitous and anyway, also bombitous Tucker craft like into a 133 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 3: microphone and then they repeat something that during the during 134 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: the broadcast, they also said, which is like, hey Packers, 135 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: we've got to come out here. 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: We've got to bully the bully. 137 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: Who are you talking about the Steelers or bullies? The 138 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: Steelers almost lost to Justin Fields in Week one. I 139 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: mean to the Jets. They gave up thirty. This is 140 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: not a one off or a two off. This is 141 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: all season long. This defense is bad. 142 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Remember we thought the Jets were a juggernut that week. 143 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: We're like, dude, we messed up getting rid of Justin Field. 144 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if they put on our defense, holy cow, 145 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: they must be good. Now. 146 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 4: The Steelers from a bully standpoint, are George Foreman when 147 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: he was hawking Dorito's like at one point, maybe, but 148 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: now it's weird to get in the ring and try 149 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: to box George Foreman. 150 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I remember when George Foreman lost his last fight where 151 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: he he should have won and he got screwed, and 152 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: Larry Merchant ran in the ring and he was apoplectic 153 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: on behalf of George Foreman and he's like, I can't 154 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: believe you just got screwed like that. George's like, that's fine, 155 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't care. I want to tell you about something 156 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: I have coming out and you and I he did. 157 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: That's exactly he announced, George Foreman. 158 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: Grill, he don't lose the boat because the boat is 159 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: going to catch all the greeds. 160 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: They lose the boat. Now, they needed to. 161 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: Have a boat something that like flipped out because that thing, Yeah, 162 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: everybody lost it and he got mangled in the dishwasher too. 163 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: The boat would always like warm. 164 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: Well. But the difference, Crawford, is that with that, with that, 165 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: the otherwise keen analogy is is that Michael Moore Pittsburgh 166 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: Zones found out that that that the old man could 167 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: if he got lucky, he could with one punch, he 168 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: could turn your lights out. I buy. That's why I 169 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: think what everybody's riding with with the Steelers this Sunday 170 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: and will be all through the rest of the season, 171 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: because I mean they're I mean, it's on one hand 172 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: that the Tale of Two Cities. I know everybody has been, 173 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: including me, like man, the Ravens might be in some troubles, 174 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: they don't get healthy because you can't get that deep 175 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 3: in a hole and just dig yourself out. Well, they 176 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: transcended those injuries and look at what their next six 177 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 3: or eight weeks looks like. There's not a loss on 178 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: the board. They might slip up somewhere along the way, 179 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: but they're about to go on a heater here and 180 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: the Steelers are about to do the opposite, and everybody's expecting, like, well, 181 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: let's get them a George Foreman special, just that one 182 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: punch Laydon and reverse everything around. Maybe we'll get that. 183 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: I kind of feel like this, like Tucker Krab, like 184 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: we bullied the bully. It's like you're fighting George Foreman 185 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five, and I think we know where 186 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: George Forman is now. So let me ask you this, 187 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: even the grill anymore. 188 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. 189 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: When you see stories like the report yesterday that Jerry 190 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,119 Speaker 1: Dulac had floated the notion that ownership is not necessarily 191 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: angry but frustrated and a little bit, uh kind of 192 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: fed up with Mike Tomlin, do you think ownersh it 193 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: floats that stuff to kind of give some red meat 194 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: to the masses, or do you anticipate that this might 195 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: really be it? Because I was thinking going into this year, 196 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: if this goes bad, this is it for Tomlin. 197 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: Reputation be damned. 198 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: And it does feel like the national media has picked 199 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: up on the sentiment that Steeler fans have had for 200 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: a few years. 201 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is I hear what you're saying. I'll defer 202 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: to you on the on the rhythm sincerely of Pittsburgh 203 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: and what the underlying meaning is Bowman. I'll always defer 204 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: to you on that stuff. You have the best sense 205 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: for that sort of thing. Is how maybe the Steelers 206 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: would want something out there and all of that kind 207 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: of thing. I don't know. I'm not caging. 208 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: I definitely I don't have any knowledge of that. I'm 209 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: actually I wonder if if that's something they might do 210 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: to me. 211 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: It makes sense because this what I'm hearing, at least, 212 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: the groundswell of the Tomlin haters have has been there 213 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: really for the better part of it decade. But now 214 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 4: that he is wafting up to the owner's suite yet 215 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 4: and they're saying, well, if you don't make this change 216 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 4: that we all have been asking for for eight years, 217 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: then you're the problem. 218 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: And if you start questioning ownership now he's like, wait 219 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: a minute, yeah, pushing on it. 220 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: I've been trying to do everything I can to make 221 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 4: this guy's plan work. 222 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: And the conduit I think up to that owner's box 223 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: that you're talking about is when the former players who 224 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: who played on all the great teams start questioning what 225 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: the hell is going on? Yep, with great regularity, there's 226 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: been some speckles here and there over the last few 227 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: years of like, hey, what is Tomlin doing? But now 228 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: you go back, they're gonna be celebrating that Super Bowl 229 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: forty team one Sunday. A lot of those guys are 230 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: not real big fans of what's going on right now. 231 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: Right and they're yeah, they're not Yeah, they're not seventy 232 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: eight years old. They're they're you know, James Harrison still 233 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: looks like James Harrison. 234 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: And did you see his podcast it this past weekend. 235 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's like when he yeah, when when 236 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 3: it's sort of like, oh, the Steelers, the Steelers defense 237 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: my Tom I'm uh, Debo is kind of like, don't 238 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: put that stink on me, don't you put that evil 239 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: on me. That's not the Pittsburgh Steelers. They don't want 240 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 3: the negative association. And as far as that goes, I 241 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: think it is spiritually the same thing we're talking about 242 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: here with the Rooney family, which is I think that 243 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: you know, it's a straw man the single like what 244 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 3: what a Steelers fans what they want him to They 245 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: want to fire Mike tom in mid season, like no, 246 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: I mean, nobody's insane. Whether nobody thinks they should fire 247 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: him before the Colts game, but at the end of 248 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: the season. And by the way, it makes some football 249 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: sense in the in the flow of the never ending 250 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: football season, which is that you're presumably transitioning into a 251 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: new era with a rookie quarterback that you're going to 252 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 3: take in twenty twenty six, So it would make sense 253 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: to make that change from from that standpoint two. But 254 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: in the meantime, I think that what you're getting at 255 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: is is that this this, you know, the Steeler's lore 256 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: and all of that, and and Art too understands that. 257 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: And for all the talk about, you know, if they fired, 258 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: if they got rid of Mike Tomlin, he'd get hired 259 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 3: five minutes later, the Steelers better realize that. I don't 260 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: think it's that exactly. It is like a the metaphor 261 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: of of a of a Jenga tower that has endured 262 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: for decades and decades and has and has been pristine. 263 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: It's the never ending, never never crumbling Jenga tower of 264 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: knowl that. You know, Art and Dan picked jazz Nole, 265 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: then then Dan picks uh Car, then he picks Tomlin, 266 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 3: and they're on a heater. They're on a decade long 267 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: like an improbable half century long streak of never missing. 268 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: So if you remove Tomlin and you hire someone like 269 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: Adam Gasee, you know, like what if you hire the 270 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: hot oc out there, one of the hot o seas well, 271 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: he's an impressive young man and he'll be here for 272 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: the next thirty years himself, and he turns out to 273 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: be like I say, Adam gaze or otherwise, and you 274 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: have to you have to knock him off. You're knocking 275 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: yourself off too. You're you're destroying the Jenga tower established 276 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: by you, by your family, and that's got to spook him. 277 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: And I completely understand that, Like, I don't want to 278 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: mess with this. It's not oh, Tomlin might get hired 279 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: and win elsewhere. It's like what if I hired a 280 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 3: guy who immediately goes one in one in sixteen. 281 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 4: Right, they're batting one thousand since nineteen sixty nine. 282 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: You don't want to screw that up? 283 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you don't. That's exactly right. In Little League, 284 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: everybody's getting the hit off the bump, second pitcher on 285 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: the second game of the of the week. 286 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I say, you don't want to be the 287 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: coach that replaces the legend. You want to be the 288 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: wach that replaces the coach that replace the legend. 289 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: Right. 290 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: Sort of like that, yeah, that's right. 291 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: Uh, but winning is tied to all this, right, Like 292 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 4: if if you're not winning, stability that's that's the Bengals 293 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: with Marv Lewis. I mean, it doesn't actually amount to anything. 294 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 4: The whole key for these guys was super Bowls and 295 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 4: they all have one or more. You know, obviously Chuck 296 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 4: has the most. But if you don't win, what's what 297 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: does the stability matter? 298 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 3: It is a weird but with all the talk like 299 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: self imposed again, the same thing as like historic defense 300 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: you said it, and same thing about like the standard 301 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: is the standard? You said it? And the standard is 302 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: now something akin to what the Bengals have, which is like, hey, 303 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: they're always in the mix, you know, like, hey, got 304 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 3: to give them credit there there. He keeps them in 305 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: the fight. And you know, Cam Hayward is one of his, 306 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: uh his students of spreading. It's like, I'm Cam Hayward, 307 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: the captain of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Cam Hayward's going to 308 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame and he's talking to microphones about it. 309 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: We just got to try harder, we said, we gotta 310 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: try harder, We got to care more. Like what the 311 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers this is that that's a weird if you 312 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: listen to that message, think about what he's saying. I mean, 313 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: the Chiefs are talking about like, boy, that we're hard 314 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: to handle with Rashid Rice in there, because then we 315 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: have Xavier Worthy taking the top off and Trauvis Kelsey's 316 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: looking pretty we you know, we do some interesting things 317 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: with our formations that give the ball to this guy 318 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 3: to say, we've got to try harder. We don't know, 319 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: we don't know where we're supposed to stand. 320 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: We don't know where, we don't know who the two shots. 321 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: You know that I think that everyone thinks about with 322 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: the defense right now is Jamar Chase running free with 323 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: the game on the line, running free with the game. 324 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: Allison running free up the ones, running completely free in 325 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: running wild Watson. 326 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: That's the one that that you know where it's the 327 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: jump ball that hung up for five seconds and there's 328 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: just nobody there in Chuck Clark flailing you know, Uh, 329 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: Dave Dan, you know, not exactly getting us off on 330 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: a really happy foot this morning. I thought you were 331 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: supposed to seduce us. 332 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 4: I thought you had been seduced, and you were gonna 333 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 4: then seduce us and past the same. 334 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: Now I'll distract you with something else if you're not 335 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: happy with with the one you love. Love the Pittsburgh Penguins, Fellas, 336 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: this is this is where it's at right now, go 337 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: get them maybe seven. That's your distract that that's your 338 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: main course. As a matter of fact, they're not a 339 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: little snacked that you're now to your main course. 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Let's move 360 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: on and let's think positively about how we can get 361 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: past the Colts somehow this Sunday and get the right. 362 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: You're looking at me like, so you're looking at me like. 363 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 5: Do you want me to leave for ten minutes time 364 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 5: and then come back when you've returned from Fantasy Oka. 365 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, turn those down down down to the game, and 366 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 8: I'm rooting our guys on a one o'clock Sunday game 367 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 8: in November with good weather Actress Stadium. 368 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: You want some home dogs. 369 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 5: And we're not gonna show up for the team on Sunday. No, 370 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 5: you're gonna sell you tickets to the Packers fans. It's 371 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 5: the same as last Sunday night. You want to hook, 372 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 5: you want something to Clinton. Yes, this is the ultimate 373 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 5: get right game, no question. 374 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 4: You're guy, You're ever gonna get right You can't ignore 375 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: or look past this team. 376 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: Because they're legit. 377 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 5: This isn't like, ah, they're seven to one, but it's flawed, 378 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: and they're not that good. 379 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: They're they're all that they're they're all that well. 380 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: Thankfully, the defense is firing on all cylinders right now, 381 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: so be able to stop this moon freight train. 382 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 5: It absolutely is sports. This hour brought to you by 383 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 5: Bridgeville plais That Steelers defense has been scorched in consecutive games, 384 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 5: but defensive coordinator Terrell Austin and that side of the 385 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: ball are staying the course from a preparation standpoint and 386 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 5: a procedure standpoint, which means head coach Mike tom is 387 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: gonna be a big part of that preparation and process. 388 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 9: He's part of the defense obviously, and he's always been 389 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 9: part of it, and it's nothing's changed in that regard. 390 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 9: We go through our weeks, we plan, he's in all 391 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 9: the meetings, all those things, and so there's really no 392 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 9: change in terms of how we work together as a staff. 393 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 5: Austin will remain the defensive play call against the Colts, 394 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 5: except in those instances when he's not. 395 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 9: It's the same since since I've been in this chair, 396 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 9: I'm calling it, and if Mike wants to call something, 397 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 9: he calls it, and that's how we roll. 398 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: I mean, that's how it's been. 399 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you can even criticize 400 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: the defensive call playing if these guys don't know what 401 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: they're doing. Ever, you can't criticize the play calls if 402 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: they can't execute what's on the field. You see them 403 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: pointing around and being confused all the time. Maybe it 404 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: was the perfect call. They don't know how to run them. 405 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's something amiss in the process. I don't think 406 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 5: the players all stink, but they break down. 407 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: They're not playing together. 408 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 5: I don't think the schemes are bad, but they break down. 409 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: They should just all play Madden because everyone online seems 410 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: to think they all know defense because of playing Madden. 411 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: And maybe if they did that together, they'd all be 412 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: able to have the same lingo and talk back and forth. 413 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: Because whatever they're doing right now, they are completely confused 414 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: all the time. The secondary is a mess, the middle 415 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: linebackers are a. 416 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: Mess, and all the time it's just on huge plays 417 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 5: and then it's snowballs. 418 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 4: It's snowballs because somebody is out of you know position 419 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: on one play, and then his teammate is trying to 420 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 4: compensate for that, and then he's out of position, and 421 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: then it just it. 422 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: It's snowballs on them. 423 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 5: And then you throw in the especially on the defensive line. 424 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 5: They do that the stuff we saw against Green Bay. 425 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: Those two throw it up down the middle and Hope 426 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 5: passes from Jordan Love that changed the game. 427 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: Somebody got to make a play there. It's just it's 428 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: just that simple. 429 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 5: And when you know, you see what happens now, you 430 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 5: can't let that stuff defeat you the way they did. 431 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 5: They just kind of fell apart thereafter. But I don't 432 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 5: know what the answer is against the NFL's number one 433 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 5: offense in terms of yards and points. I think it's 434 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 5: gonna have to be scoring more points. Well, I have 435 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 5: the solution make the field even worse. Yeah, well, I 436 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 5: mean they're gonna, they're gonna they need to do some 437 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 5: stuff too, And I think this is let the. 438 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: Groundhogs have their way over the weekend, dig lots of tunnels, 439 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: have people turn ankles. 440 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 5: It's funny because the Steelers offense is averaging twenty five 441 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 5: points a game. It's tied for eleventh in the league. 442 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 5: I mean, this is we haven't been here in a 443 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 5: long long time. Offensively, it's it's adequate. It's ahead of 444 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 5: the middle of the pack. 445 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: Yep, it's just off the top ten. 446 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 5: It's it's eight points off the eight point eight points 447 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 5: off the pace. Indianapolis's is setting uh is leading. 448 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: The league with it seems like a lot, but they 449 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: are on fire. So yes, but we're. 450 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 5: Just not paint any attention because the defense is so bad. 451 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 5: Ye know, nor should we be. But my point is, 452 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 5: you get just a little more out of this offense. 453 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: He came metcalf. Doesn't let the guy the ball out 454 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: of his hands for for an interception that should be 455 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 5: a completion. Don't drop the one in your hands in 456 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 5: the end zone, you know, don't don't do some of 457 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 5: the things they've done that have left points on the field. 458 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: And don't let the coach off the hook for not 459 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: going forward on fourth down when you should. A lot 460 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: of the reason why these offenses in the NFL are 461 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: putting up the numbers so they are is because the 462 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: game has changed and they go forward on fourth down 463 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: when percentages dictate you do. I'm not a huge analytics 464 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: guy in terms of you have to. But he's the 465 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: last in the league in going for it when statistically 466 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: they say you should. 467 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 5: And the Raiders are second, and they stick you can't. 468 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 5: But that's that's what I'm not going to buy this argument, 469 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 5: because if you can't block Aaron Donald, you can't block 470 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 5: Aaron Donald. But and but fourth and three one is 471 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 5: a lot harder than the analytics says. 472 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: When you're ripping off seven at a pitch in the 473 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: first half with Jalen Warren and you're afraid to keep 474 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: running him and you have a fourth and three right there, 475 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: you don't have something that you can get a fourth 476 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: to three and feel confident and put their defense on 477 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: their heels. 478 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: Well, here's my theory. That's what I'm saying. 479 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: Is part of the reason a lot of these just 480 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: because the Raiders s think what they're doing is out 481 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: of desperation. 482 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: The teams that are actually like you. 483 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: Just talked about how they're a top ten offense, the 484 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: Raiders are not. 485 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: They're doing it out of desperation. We should be doing 486 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: it out of because we can. 487 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 5: Well, I just you had a nerve with me when 488 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 5: you say when they should no, no, no, not say 489 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 5: decide should Okay, it's it's got to. 490 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 2: Be an in game decision. 491 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: Here's how I would, But I am agreeing with you 492 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: that it shouldn't be every time. 493 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: I just want I don't want you to think that. 494 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 5: I'm not going to look at a graph and say 495 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 5: that's how you run a football game, because this is 496 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 5: just and that's not how you run. 497 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 2: People completely agree. 498 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: However, circumstantially he refuses to consider it. 499 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 5: Well, what I would do starting Sunday, I don't mind 500 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 5: kicking field goals because Boswell's really good and really reliable. 501 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 5: Where I would start to look to go for it 502 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: would be about your own forty fourth and one, Damn 503 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 5: your own thirty eight. That's what I'm talking about, the 504 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 5: fifty yard line, Like, keep those drives going is what 505 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 5: I'm talking about. Okay, then we're on the same page. 506 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I'm not. 507 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: Talking about on our own thirty five going for it. 508 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about when it's fourth and three and you're 509 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: on their thirty. 510 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 5: Well no, but then that in that case, get the 511 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 5: points if the game is still manageable. I don't want 512 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 5: to pass up points to go for it you have 513 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 5: them backed up. But if I can extend the possession. 514 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 5: Then that's what they got to start seeing. Boswall is 515 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 5: going to start missing on this crappy field. And the 516 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 5: other thing is if you go for it, like around 517 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 5: your own forty, it's steal a Green Bay thing from 518 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 5: years ago when Tomlin on side kicked with the lead. Yeah, hey, 519 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 5: if they score, at least we'll get the ball back. 520 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 2: Quicker. 521 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Ran you you hated that they went for 522 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 4: it in Dublin. 523 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 2: Remember that was different circumstantially what I was. 524 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: I was not saying that, like if if percenta just 525 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: say you should go for it, you should. I was 526 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: saying they're last in the league in that, meaning they 527 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: never do. I'm not saying we need to lead the 528 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: league in it. I'm saying it needs to be considered 529 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: once in a while. Circumstantially, I disagreed with what they 530 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: did in Doublin, but against the Packers on that particular one, 531 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: that's when I thought they should have gone for it. 532 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a fair argument. 533 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 5: But I think it's got to be a possession by 534 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 5: possession analysis of it, and you got a factor in 535 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 5: what's working and what isn't. 536 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: How I totally agree with all that. How they are 537 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: literally last, meaning they never do. 538 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 5: I don't care. And you know what else goes forward 539 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 5: a lot teams that are losing. 540 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, you're we're we're dancing around the same argument. 541 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: My point is he never does. But when he complains 542 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: about the offense, he had an opportunity there in a 543 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: game that he knew was going to be a shootout, 544 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: and he's trying to win it by one point like 545 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: that ain't gonna happen? 546 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 5: Well, when when professional memory, what point of. 547 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: The game was that? I think Boswell already? I think 548 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 2: that was his third field goal. 549 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 5: Okay, so that put him up sixteen sevend that was 550 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 5: in the first half, or that put him up that 551 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 5: put him up nine to seven. I'll tell he took 552 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 5: the lead there, right. I mean, it's every situation is unique. 553 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 5: If you're doing it the right way, you can't. 554 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: It was his third field He had a fifty six yarder, 555 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: a fifty yarder and then the forty eight yard right, 556 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: So that was second quarter, yes, and that put him 557 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: up nine to seven. 558 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't have a problem with that. 559 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 4: And situationally, I didn't have a problem with what they 560 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 4: did in Dublin because they were trying to put the pedal. 561 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: Put to the metal into game away right there. 562 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 4: Put their cleats on their throat, and you know, tell 563 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 4: the special teams get the hell out of here. We 564 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 4: want this and I want my offense to feel that 565 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: right now. They didn't have to not cover Jordan Addison 566 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 4: on the ensuing drive and give up an eighty yard bomb. 567 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: And yet they did. 568 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: That's that's why I thought you didn't go for it there, 569 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: And I like, I don't feel super strongly about like 570 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: I see the argument in Dublin. My point is he 571 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: plays so conservatively all the time. 572 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: He is he is. 573 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 5: Oh well, that's what everybody says. I mean, do you 574 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 5: see them taking shots down the field. When Aaron Rodgers 575 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 5: has one on one, you see him more and more, 576 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 5: more and more calculated. It's not okay, we're gonna throw 577 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 5: nine bombs today because we're gonna be aggressive. 578 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: You've got to play the game. 579 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 5: And when Mike Tomlins had good quarterbacks, he's had offenses 580 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 5: at score points, when he's had Duck Hodges and Mitch 581 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 5: Trubisky and Kenny Pickett, he's been real conservatives because guess 582 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 5: what those guys are turnover machines that stink. I mean, 583 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 5: it doesn't. It doesn't happen on a graphic or in 584 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 5: a video game. You've got to play the game you're playing. 585 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 5: Probably right now is defense. It's not him being too conservative. 586 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: Probably probably the one is you you brought up there. 587 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: The problem is their defense stinks. Defense can't finish. 588 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 5: And I am at a loss to tell you why 589 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: that is. Because there's there's times in a game when 590 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 5: it plays well, and there's times in a game when 591 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 5: it looks like they've never practiced once. 592 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: So it's mostly in the fourth quarter. It's something. 593 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that is an alarming stat. Almost half of 594 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: the points that they've allowed a been in the fourth quarter. 595 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 5: My theory is it's either the way the message is 596 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 5: being the livered or the way the message is being 597 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: received not being received. Yeah, there's a there's a there's 598 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 5: a disconnect somewhere. They got to fix that. And and 599 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 5: you know, and then the try hard thing. I agree 600 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 5: one thousand percent with Damashek. I wrote my Pittsburgh magazine 601 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 5: Calm about that this week. 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Wow, 642 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: no idea. 643 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: I was laughing because Mark Madden posted a picture he 644 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: went to see Robert Plant at that weird in music hall. 645 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was West Banko, but okay, there that well. 646 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: At any rate, he took a picture of the guy 647 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: playing the stand up base and he's like, stand up 648 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: bass such a unique instrument. 649 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: Love this sound. 650 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: It's just funny to me because I mean, I go 651 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: to lots of shows where I would see that, but 652 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: Mark Mark doesn't probactly doesn't a lot of rock shows. Yeah, 653 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: and it's not good or bad. It's just funny to 654 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: me that like that stuck out to him, obviously, because 655 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: at the UFO concerted, it's probably not Yeah, when you 656 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: go to see Acidjurgals, nobody's playing there. No, But Mike 657 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: revealed that he played stand up bass as a youngster. 658 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: And you were in a bluegrass band? 659 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 5: Well band is? It was me and two friends of mine. 660 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 5: I played upright bass, one guy played banjo, one guy 661 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 5: played mandolin. And that's awesome on you know Bill Monroe 662 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 5: is of course I did a lot of his stuff, 663 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 5: father of Bluegrass, Will the Circle Be Unbroken? 664 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: And some of the twangy stuff, doing that nitty nitty 665 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: gritty dirt band era. 666 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 5: Because it's all like there's three keys to all that stuff. 667 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 5: I mean, it's not complicated. It's a players sing, but 668 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 5: you know what it was complicated? 669 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: Agree? But yeah to do well, yeah, it's. 670 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 5: Extremely You know what's complicated is moving the upright bass 671 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 5: from one home to another. 672 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: Played the harmonica. That is a pain in the rs. 673 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 5: Yes, almost enough that it really beats down your enthusiasm 674 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 5: to continue doing gigs. 675 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: Try playing a Hammond organ. All right, boredis and boredis 676 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: fighting for justice. Bringing our next guest to you, Missy 677 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: Matthews from the Steelers audio. 678 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: Now we're going miss how are you hi? 679 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: Guys? 680 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm great. 681 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 6: I didn't know that either. 682 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: Isn't that great? It's an amazing fun fact. 683 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: Oh the letters to me that you guys have no idea? 684 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: He's slowly revealing it only takes twenty years. I've become 685 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: an incorrectly typecast. This is somewhat of a stereotypical compilation 686 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: of Oscar Madison. 687 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: But what is your inscription? 688 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 5: More meat on that boat? 689 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: Missy? Look this this game on Sunday. 690 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what the grass is gonna certainly won't 691 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: look blue on Sunday, but I hope the field is 692 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: in better condition. But maybe I don't. Maybe that's the 693 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: one thing that will slow down the Colts. I joked 694 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: about it earlier, but this is a jugger, not of 695 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: an offense coming in for Mike Tomlins defense at a 696 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: time when they're not exactly killing it. 697 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 6: Well, the grass is actually Kentucky bluegrass. And that's why 698 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 6: I know that I did a story on it a 699 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 6: long time ago about how they resaw the field and whatnot. 700 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: Sense a melia can play nine holes on it and 701 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: then get strown. 702 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, I will say maybe it will come into a 703 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 6: factor because the Colts have played five home games. They 704 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 6: played two games inside so far. So the only game 705 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 6: they've actually played outside in elements quote unquote elements was 706 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 6: Week three in. 707 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: Tennessee and it was maybereeze that day, like they had 708 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: no web. 709 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 6: So, like, you know, maybe some good football weather in 710 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh will will help the Steelers out in terms of 711 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 6: slowing them. 712 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 2: Down, Like you said, I hope. 713 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: So, Uh, how do you think the defense responds to 714 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: a week where it has just been I mean they've 715 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: been dragged through the mud. Uh, And Mike Tomlin starts 716 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: a press conference by saying the offense had to be better, 717 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: which you know a lot of people didn't love that 718 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: that seemed to be his priority. I don't think it 719 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: is his priority. The offenses I think should be his priority. 720 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: What the offense, Yes, because you're saying be the Bengals 721 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: now and just try to outscore people. 722 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 2: Ye, steer into what you can know, but navigating. 723 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: But look, they make the move to bring in Kyle 724 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: Duggar and with the Elliot injury, now the secondary is 725 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: going to look a lot different. 726 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: Tell us what you think it's going to appear to 727 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: be on Sunday. 728 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 6: Well, I don't know exactly what their configuration or scheme 729 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 6: is going to be, but I think it's not even 730 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 6: just like this week. You know, it's the previous week 731 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 6: on a Thursday night, having to wait nine days to 732 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 6: play again and then having the same situation happen. So 733 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 6: I think there's clearly a lot of frustration and want 734 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 6: to and hopefully this is the one that you know, 735 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 6: it's a you know, a taste of some bad medicine 736 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 6: that can help, especially when you know what the challenge 737 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 6: is coming in. I still go back to the Green 738 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 6: Bay game though, like in the first half, they were 739 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 6: they stopped the ball, like they were doing the things 740 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 6: that they wanted to do. It was just you had 741 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 6: to lead and then you gave it up. And I 742 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 6: do agree with Mike. 743 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 3: I don't. 744 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 6: I don't think coaches like, all right, I'm gonna mention 745 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 6: the offense first, because I care more about what the 746 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 6: offense is doing right or wrong. 747 00:35:59,520 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 2: I think. 748 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 6: I mean, he just he talks, you know, he he 749 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 6: it's like a preamble of everything that's like stuck in 750 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 6: his head as he sat in like a dark room 751 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 6: watching film for the press like twenty four hours. I mean, 752 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 6: he literally comes out of his hole is what's called 753 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 6: it where he watches film to go do that press conference. 754 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 6: It's probably the first time he's like seen daylight and 755 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 6: like actual. 756 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 5: People and see his shadow. 757 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: What's happened? 758 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 6: I know not but you know, Aaron Rodgers said it too, 759 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 6: like they can't settle for field goals and they were 760 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 6: barely in the red zone where they wanted to be, 761 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 6: and they had chances, and it was stupid penalties and 762 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 6: just things that you know, we typically have not seen 763 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 6: from the offense necessarily. I know her Big had a 764 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 6: penalty that you didn't like either. That's not the offensive fault, 765 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 6: but I feel personally, but I agree, But I feel 766 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 6: like at that point you knew that this this crew 767 00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 6: is just a mess. 768 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 2: Yes, they were meeting. 769 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 6: That's a penalty that they couldn't actually throw because they 770 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 6: didn't throw the flag in the first place. So like, 771 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 6: I don't know, I think you have to expect the 772 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 6: worst sometimes, you know, it just kind of is what 773 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 6: it is. Everybody in that stadium knew that that was 774 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 6: a free play, but those yes, and then they met 775 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 6: about it, but there was nothing they could do about it. 776 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: That was what was hilarious was that they decided to 777 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: have Like they're like, guys, you normally we wait to 778 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: review stuff till after the game. That was so bad. 779 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: I think we should talk about it right now. We 780 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. 781 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: But that was bad. 782 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: You're grounded just correcting a dog after he pooped on 783 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: the carpet, and what did you do? 784 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: Look what you did? What did you call? What did 785 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: you not call? The poop is there still? But we 786 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 2: can't even clean them. 787 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 6: So uh. 788 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: Offensively, though, I think they're like it's like the inverse, 789 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: they are finding another gear. They're getting better each week. 790 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: The offensive line. Look, whatever is going on with Broderick 791 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: Jones over there? You know, if they have to help 792 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: them or not. What they have going on is working 793 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: for them. The Sam Malu injury is a little bit 794 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: concerning though. How much does that affect the Jumbo package? 795 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 6: Well, I think it does a lot, But I do 796 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 6: think that they have other guys that can come in. 797 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 6: They're clearly going to know. I feel like going into 798 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 6: this game, if they have seventy three or not, and 799 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 6: Spencer Anderson obviously would fill in for him, and then 800 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 6: you have to decide is that Ryan McCollum. You know, 801 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 6: they have Andrea's pete. Who who's going to be the 802 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 6: quote unquote you know, mister eligible jumbo guy. Yeah, but 803 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 6: that's definitely not something they get away from. So I 804 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 6: don't think this isn't like how it happened in the 805 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 6: game where all of a sudden Isaac's out and he 806 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 6: did try to go back in, you know, he's just 807 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 6: that type of guy. But I think they were like, nah, 808 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 6: actually you're you're not We're taking you back out. So 809 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 6: they will have that figured out. And I do think, 810 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 6: you know, Jalen Warren has been doing good things, but 811 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 6: again it goes back to not having the most experienced 812 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 6: veteran offensive line on the field who happens to help 813 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 6: the center and a tackle. So we'll see what happens. 814 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 6: But I think that at least is something they can 815 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 6: plan for going in And I just think that if 816 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 6: there's a weak spot on the Colts team, it's their defense. 817 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 6: It's clearly not their offense. So Aaron Rodgers knows and 818 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 6: has seen everything, and I think hopefully that's something they 819 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 6: can exploit because if it has to be where the 820 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 6: offense is carrying the team, then that's what needs to happen. 821 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 6: I think we're all just so used to the defense 822 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 6: having to carry the team because we didn't know who 823 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 6: the quarterback was going to be or what they were 824 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 6: going to do. And it feels like right now it's 825 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 6: a little Warbers. 826 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: Missy Matthews from Steelers Audio Network. 827 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: Here on the sidelines is Rob King and Max Starks 828 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: bring you all the action for the one o'clock kickoff 829 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: right here on your radio home of the Steelers Steelers 830 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: Colts Sunday on DVE. 831 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: Thanks Missy, Thanks guys. 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