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Speaker 3: and Michelle you or talking about the opening day being

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave, we got the exclusive, Blake, we got it

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Speaker 3: That's unfortunate for people that go out there on Boxing Day,

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Speaker 3: like the entire Kate's Family of fancy British wedding like

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Speaker 3: charging us more for Vegan Milton. I don't see how

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Speaker 2: And we all basically alcoholics.

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Speaker 3: Well I'm sober judge right now. Okay, the people in

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Speaker 3: Hate list.

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Speaker 3: Aaron and he used a black thumb so he might

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Speaker 3: All right. This is Aaron's lest and Kate's feel free

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Speaker 3: Steve Alford and the University of Reno band.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he called out the band, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't call him the eighties Insults of record

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Speaker 3: This is an unbelievable list. Daniel Siegel, Oh, the seagull Eagle.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he was scared of us. I think

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Speaker 2: We did get pitched Seth Davis for a book tour.

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Speaker 2: If we should have taken it and just skewered his act.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no way, man really washed it. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Welcome to my world, friend.

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Speaker 3: Man Cow. I don't think Man.

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Speaker 3: Now. I haven't received a text in a while from

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Speaker 3: This one says Don Martin hates us. Now, have you

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Speaker 5: It could be in the gal I haven't communicated with

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Speaker 2: I talked to him during the World I texted with

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Speaker 2: I think that burden might be on us, right. He

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Speaker 2: It was a one way street for the.

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Speaker 3: Last of my holiday music all month.

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Speaker 2: Might be nice for us after today's show to say, hey, Boss,

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Speaker 2: twenty third. You were so kind to give us Christmas

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that there's a couple here that are just stale

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Speaker 3: That a hole running around La Joya that's causing.

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Speaker 2: Trouble exactly, Cay Lamborghini boat, This says Casey Jacobs. Why

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Speaker 5: And I was actually told by somebody like the dude

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mister mckimm my eighth grade teacher. He was just

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Speaker 2: Came home with a lot of swag, including our Southern

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Speaker 2: California Sports Broadcasters of the Year Award.

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Speaker 3: Michelle Hugh's husband.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that's just Michelle.

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Speaker 3: U is your vibrant and feisty wife, and she runs

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Speaker 2: And know what he married, right, He's not worried about us, no,

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Speaker 2: And I think he's like a former Navy seal or something,

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Speaker 2: I think they were Navy seals together, and they will

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Speaker 3: Idiot, All right, leave me alone. Wayne ran Dazzo, the Dazzler,

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Speaker 3: Joey Ran Dazzle, my cousin, Joey, who does not hate

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Speaker 2: As far as you know, I like Joey Ran Dazzle.

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Speaker 2: That Wayne hates the Dazzler. Dazzler hates you. How do

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Speaker 2: to him that you're mocking the Dazzler daily, that you

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Speaker 3: Yes, baby, the real boys at Disneyland, they're not even real.

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Speaker 2: We are the real boy it's been fifteen years.

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Speaker 5: I was at Disneyland on Thanksgiving and I did not

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Speaker 3: You know, see a lot of weirdos that are there

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Speaker 2: Great guy gave Kapler good one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he hates it.

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Speaker 3: Still great, Matt's still on text change with him, David

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Speaker 3: Lord doesn't even hate us. He's trying to get on

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Speaker 3: and we'll be back with the top story of the day.

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Speaker 3: Stay with us on the petch of somebody showing him

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Speaker 3: five seventy LA Sports last show of the year.

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Speaker 2: We've made it even easier to take LA Sports with

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody, Petro send money saying goodbye for the

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Speaker 3: new year, for the year, the old year, and we'll

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Speaker 3: Clippers Versus Rockets pregame at six thirty, tip off at

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Speaker 3: seven thirty on AM five seventy, So we'll do Dead

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Speaker 4: Farewell, Yes, let's just get to the end instead of

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Speaker 2: Story of the day. You inspired me yesterday with your

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Speaker 2: I believe I did. I believe I did. And what

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Speaker 2: Yet, and in this particular era of football, which is beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows that you would have been the best.

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Speaker 2: I would have been. I would have been dead. You

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Speaker 3: We're not scared, well, why don't you want to play

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Speaker 2: Cowherd is a Baltic State trepeze artist.

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Speaker 3: These days, one of the Flying will Ndees.

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Speaker 3: to everybody's going to love that.

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Speaker 2: Get that third cupcake. So we got a shot at

444
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Speaker 2: making the twelve team playoff. So I use all of

445
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Speaker 2: that to set up an individual award because that makes sense, right,

446
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: an award that should not have any attention from the

447
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Speaker 2: individual that wins it if in fact they are playing

448
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Speaker 2: football the right way and that is the most valuable player,

449
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Speaker 2: which is now front. It's always nice to be reconnized,

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Speaker 2: certainly for your efforts. Helps with your Hall of Fame candidacy,

451
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: that's for certain, and might be able to be fuel

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Speaker 2: for a podcast that your wife runs if she decides

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Speaker 2: to bring it back. But the MVP. So watching some

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Speaker 2: football last night, man, was it fun watching Philip Rivers

455
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Speaker 2: out there? We only have two regular season games left,

456
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: so the MVP conversation is heating up. It is on

457
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Speaker 2: the debate shows. There are entire podcasts dedicated to MVP

458
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Speaker 2: ballots because the biggest stars in sporting America are quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Good looking quarterbacks married to good looking pop stars spitting

460
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Speaker 2: out beautiful children that could go one way or another athlete, performer,

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Speaker 2: financial titan, or maybe the humble profession of being a

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Speaker 2: teacher and helping the next generation become better than maybe

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Speaker 2: they already were. Thanks So the fact that there is

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Speaker 2: a quarterback debate going on, I think you know where

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Speaker 2: this is going. I wish I could attribute it, but

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Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was, but I believe it

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Speaker 2: was on the on sporting radio somewhere. Maybe it was

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Speaker 2: a podcast, but the name Justin Herbert came up. Oh,

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Speaker 2: and I didn't think you're going to talk about him.

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert for MVP was shot down so fast by

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Speaker 2: the other host who was not a football player. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's on one of the ESPN. Yeah, because money football

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Speaker 2: is in ESPN. So I think it was on one

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Speaker 2: of those roundtables, right like the the the Orlowsky, Marcus Spears,

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Speaker 2: Mark Spears, Marcus Spears, you know.

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Speaker 3: One of those shot it down.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember, no, no, no, it was like one of

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Speaker 2: the you know, reporter types. Okay, and he said, huh,

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Speaker 2: Herbert's fourteenth and EPA per dropback, Drake May has got

480
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Speaker 2: a completion percentage six points higher than him and Matthew

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Speaker 2: Stafford has thrown thirteen more touchdown passes. You can't be

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Speaker 2: serious bringing up Justin Herbert. All of those things may

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Speaker 2: be true, and all of those things are statistical measurements,

484
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Speaker 2: they're spreadsheets, they're nerd nuggets. Without all of that, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're not football things. Pete.

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Speaker 3: No, it's been his most impressive year as a quarterback

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Speaker 3: and a leader right by far.

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Speaker 2: You watch football, you watch Justin Herbert what he does

489
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Speaker 2: week in and week out, playing the most violent team

490
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Speaker 2: sport with bigger, faster, stronger guys that routine ly, week

491
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Speaker 2: in and week out tee off on him.

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Speaker 3: He's hurt, he's running more than ever. He's shown great courage,

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Speaker 3: he's developed receivers, doesn't have a quote unquote elite receiving corps.

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Speaker 3: One of the guys retired right when the year began.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have either tackle.

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Speaker 2: Everybody has hammered the Chargers all season long about their

497
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Speaker 2: leaky offensive line, and they're right. It is the thirty

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Speaker 2: second ranked and there are thirty two teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: For those of you that are not aware, the thirty

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Speaker 2: second ranked run offensive line feels like he overcomes a

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Speaker 2: lot every week, seems like it right.

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Speaker 3: To me, it does, and I'm not biased.

503
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Speaker 2: They the offensive line, while trying to protect Justin Herbert,

504
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 2: has allowed him to be hit over two hundred and

505
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Speaker 2: thirty times. That is forty more than the second most

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Speaker 2: hit quarterback. He has been sacked, the most times he

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Speaker 2: has been hurried, He has been blitzed. He has had

508
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Speaker 2: a game in which he was pressured sixty eight percent

509
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Speaker 2: of his dropbacks, and that was a game he won.

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Speaker 2: The final five contests of this season began with the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles, followed by the Chiefs, followed

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Speaker 2: by the number one offense in the NFL Cowboys, followed

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Speaker 2: by the best defense that we've seen in ten years,

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans on Saturday, followed by a trip to

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Speaker 2: the team that's number one in the AFC record wise,

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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. And many projected that they would go zero

517
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Speaker 2: in five, that you couldn't possibly score enough points behind

518
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: this terrible offensive line this season to win those games,

519
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: and all Justin Herbert has done is win all of

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Speaker 2: them with a broken hand. The game in which he

521
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: broke his hand, put a glove on, made his way

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Speaker 2: back onto the field, finished the game stiff armed to

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Speaker 2: safety on a scramble for twelve yards that gave his

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Speaker 2: team a first down eventually to tie the game and

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Speaker 2: then win it in overtime against the Philadelphia Eagles. That's

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Speaker 2: all he's done. The odds makers have repeatedly said the

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Speaker 2: Chargers are going to lose these games because of that

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Speaker 2: offensive line. They were dogs of the Eagles, to the Chiefs,

529
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Speaker 2: to the Cowboys. Opened his two and a half point favorites.

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Speaker 2: That's down to one and a half now against the Texans.

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Speaker 2: And it gets to the point of what is the

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Speaker 2: most valuable player? Is it a guy that has an

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Speaker 2: EPA per drop back that is well ahead of everybody else?

534
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Speaker 2: Is it Drake May and his Patriots who are playing

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Speaker 2: far and away the softest schedule of any team in

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Speaker 2: the NFL this year? Is it Matthew Stafford who's got

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Speaker 2: forty touchdown passes? But, as we hear routinely, is being

538
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Speaker 2: coached by the most brilliant offensive mind in football. They

539
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: can draw up plays to twist your defense's brains into

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Speaker 2: a pretzel.

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Speaker 3: Everybody talks about McVeigh like that McVeigh is great, but

542
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Speaker 3: that's because they run the ball.

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Speaker 2: They have a beautiful iron. Williams is great.

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Speaker 3: They have a beautiful stretch zone and everything they do,

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Speaker 3: just like with Golf and Todd Gurley, is based on

546
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: their beautiful stretch zone and they run that and then

547
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Speaker 3: they stem everything off of that. And the quarterback is

548
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Speaker 3: very good. But everybody acts like he's sitting here drawing

549
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: up a bunch of pass plays like Mouse Davis. They

550
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Speaker 3: run the freaking boss.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen has the number one running back in the

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Speaker 2: league in James Cook. As they are talking about him

553
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Speaker 2: putting on his cape week in and week out and

554
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: willing the Bills to victory. He literally has a running

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Speaker 2: back that has rushed for fifteen hundred yards and double

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Speaker 2: digit touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe he's been doing it kind of under

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Speaker 3: the cover of it's the Chargers and they've lost early

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs the last few years and whatever. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Harbaugh's not as big of a story as he used

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Speaker 3: to be. But he's had a heroic year if you've

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Speaker 3: paid close attention. I don't know. I can't think of

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Speaker 3: a guy who's overcome more.

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Speaker 2: They have eleven wins, same number as Matthew Stafford and

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Speaker 2: the Rams, same number as Josh Allen. And the Bills

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Speaker 2: say one less than the New England Patriots, and yet

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Speaker 2: bringing up Justin Herbert in the MVP conversation is being

568
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: scoffed a time. The man has a broken hand.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna get the MVP, probably not,

570
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Speaker 3: but it certainly shouldn't be scoffed.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they win these final two games, and they win

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Speaker 2: the AFC West, going thirteen and four without their tackles,

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Speaker 2: without Naji Harris for the entire season, Amari and Hampton

575
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Speaker 2: for eight of those games, a patchwork offensive line, sixteen

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Speaker 2: different combinations throughout the year. I'd like to think when

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Speaker 2: you bring up Justin Herbert's name and the MVP, you say, well,

578
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Speaker 2: there's a warrior. There's a guy that's willing to go

579
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Speaker 2: out there no matter the physical show a lot of character.

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00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: Exactly right, give me epa per drop back is fourteenth

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Speaker 2: and you can't possibly take that seriously. It's wrong with

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Speaker 2: you people.

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Speaker 3: You know what it's like, Matt paddling out when your

584
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 3: shoulder hurts. You overcome that adverse.

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Speaker 2: Every day every wave pe who burn you way, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we can't possibly play Notre Dame in November? What are

587
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Speaker 2: you thinking this benefits them so much more than it

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00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: benefits us. Doesn't that change every year? Doesn't it benefit

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Speaker 2: both of you. Doesn't it benefit the fans and the

590
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Speaker 2: players in the game that as opposed to you.

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Speaker 3: We didn't see their MoU before we saw the percentage

592
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: of what the deal was. Just it's your job to

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Speaker 3: make sure they play leadership.

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Speaker 2: I just want to move it to the earlier in

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Speaker 2: the year God told me.

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Speaker 3: Asked whatever, God, I hate everybody.

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Speaker 2: Except justin Herbert.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, way to go. What a great guy. We'll be

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Speaker 3: back with more of your dead and a live guy.

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Speaker 2: Burnday, Yeah, he really is.

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Speaker 3: He goes to war Warriors Dig.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, boar Daddy Warriors Dig.

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Speaker 3: got the dead Guy Birthday of the Day.

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Speaker 2: I do our Dead Guy Birthday of the Day. Joseph Smith,

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Speaker 2: founder of Mormonism the Latter Day Saints movement, published the

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Speaker 2: Book of Mormon at twenty four, died at thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Joe. How did it all come about? Joe?

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Speaker 2: He was born in Sharon, Vermont. Tough childhood. Family was poor.

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Speaker 2: His father was constantly chasing work, moving all over the place,

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Speaker 2: frequently relocating. Right when he's about twelve or thirty, he

627
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Speaker 2: falls in with a group. It's figuring out how to

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Speaker 2: make some scratch with folk magic, treasure seeking practices, religious revivalism,

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Speaker 2: all of which would influence his later claims and pursuits.

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Speaker 2: Smith suggested when he was fifteen in eighteen twenty, he

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Speaker 2: experienced a divine vision in which both God and Jesus

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Speaker 2: appeared to him and said, all existing churches are corrupt. Now,

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Speaker 2: he did not share that vision publicly until much later. Well,

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Speaker 2: he'd want to be embarrassed at fifteen. You know, good

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Speaker 2: luck talking with your pals about that when they're just talking,

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Speaker 2: you know, Tinker to Evers, to Chance. There were down

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Speaker 2: the road multiple versions of that particular vision that he

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Speaker 2: shared on the record. In the eighteen twenties, Smith participated

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Speaker 2: in treasure digging, using what he called seer stones or

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Speaker 2: peep stones, that people could pay to look into his

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00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: hat at these stones, and they would guide them to

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Speaker 2: various buried treasures. But you're corrupt, an activity that resulted

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Speaker 2: in at least at least on record one court appearance

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Speaker 2: for disorderly conduct and fraud. Smith's most significant claim was

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Speaker 2: that he translated the Book of Mormon from golden plates

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Speaker 2: revealed to him by an angel named Maroni.

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Speaker 3: Where are the Academy? Just like the Lice Academy? Right

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Speaker 3: next to.

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Speaker 2: Where are the plates? I believe they were found buried

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Speaker 2: at the base of a tree in Rochester. Are they

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Speaker 2: still there? No? The angel took him back. The book

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Speaker 2: was produced using methods that critics would argue resembled Smith's

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Speaker 2: earlier treasure seeking adverts and practices. The Book of Mormon

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Speaker 2: nineteenth century American context, as opposed to an ancient record.

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Speaker 2: Eighteen thirty, Smith founds the church establishes himself as its

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Speaker 2: profit ultimate authority. Over time, he introduces a number of revolutions,

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Speaker 2: a number of revelations that expand his power, doctrines that

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Speaker 2: would centralize his leadership and obedience by his congregation. These

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Speaker 2: revelations were not the Book of Mormon. They were compiled

660
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Speaker 2: into the Doctrine and Covenants, a separate book, separate scripture

661
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: from the Book of Mormon. His leadership included polygamy. Records

662
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: that Smith married between thirty and forty women, many of

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Speaker 2: whom were already married.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Holidays had to be rough a.

665
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: Lot of dinners to go to, some of whom were teenagers.

666
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: They were concealed from the public, even from his wife Emma.

667
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: Using his prophetic authority to pressure women, saying, look, I

668
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: don't want to do this, but God says, if I don't,

669
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Speaker 2: I'm in big trouble.

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Speaker 3: Guess what I had another vision.

671
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: I had a vision God said you and I gotta

672
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: get going or I'm in big trouble.

673
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 3: What do you I don't want to do it sot

674
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: in my mind's eye.

675
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: As you would imagine, his actions generated significant opposition, legal issues,

676
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: accusations of fraud, hostility from surrounding communities wherever he tried

677
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: to settle. Eighteen forty four, it all comes to a head.

678
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: He ordered his congregation to destroy a newspaper that criticized

679
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: his polygamy, his political power. He was arrested. He was

680
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: jailed in Carthage, Illinois. And while on the second story

681
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: that is basically thrown out of a window, a shot

682
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: thrown out of a window. He's killed while he was

683
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: a waiting trial, like chet Maker, just like it, Legacy

684
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: started a religion that is still incredibly popular today. I

685
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: believe Mormonism is the fastest growing religion in the world. So,

686
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: you know, some say Joseph Smith prophet. Others say, read

687
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: that doctrine and Covenant one thirty two. Joseph Smith must

688
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: sleep with multiple women. You, Ma, Smith, are not allowed

689
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: to even look at another man, so says the angel Maroney.

690
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: But hey, happy birthday, Joe, way to go. You got

691
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: a hell of a tabernacle choir dripping with sarcas beautiful.

692
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: Oh we are related.

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Speaker 3: You know he is an uncle yours. You can say

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00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: whatever you want exactly, all right, Matt. Today we'll wrap

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Speaker 3: up the year of dead and alive birthdays of the

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Speaker 3: day with some lighter fare, but a heavy star in

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00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: South Korea, our own Hey Song Kim, no doubt knows

698
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Speaker 3: about this guy, Kang g young or you soothly Kang

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Speaker 3: g Q sixty three.

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Speaker 2: The older one. You should get the younger on these

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Speaker 2: what's that I said? Sixty three? One of the rare older.

702
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: He's the Stephen Spielberg of Korea.

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00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: Okay. Director Pang grew up.

704
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 3: Working at his parents hardware store. Is nickname son of

705
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 3: a pot shop, Son of a pot shop. Yeah, not

706
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: a weed star. I'm a hardware store. That's yeah, you

707
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: would think, but that's you know, translated right. He became

708
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 3: interested in filmmaking and literature, went to Chung'ang University for film,

709
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: graduated in nineteen eighty five. Then he started making movies

710
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: and writing screenplays and producing again the Steven Spielberg of

711
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: East Asia. He has war epics like The Saving Private

712
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 3: Ryan of East Asia, action thrillers. He has won numerous

713
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 3: awards since the nineties. Then I do have some time.

714
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: Okay, it's the saving Private Ryan of war. It's not.

715
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: It's just I don't know. I don't know what war, Matt,

716
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: it's not what I read. Okay, Well, going to what

717
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 3: war it was about? I'm sorry I thought about it.

718
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: She said, no, baby, World War two. I don't know.

719
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: All I know is that movie had some Korean name

720
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: that wasn't gonna.

721
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: Get horn, wasn't gonna get horse.

722
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: Okay, first title, Well, Comma, let's look at the sky.

723
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Speaker 2: Sometimes that's gonna get horns. Did you know what? We

724
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: don't want to look at the sky all the time.

725
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 2: You get hit by a car, you know, keep your

726
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: eyes out for danger. You're just looking where you are.

727
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's okay, underground sky space, underground sky space? What

728
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: that would be? You're underground? Where's the hesse?

729
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: Right? Bad guys always die.

730
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: That's a big win. And in Korean flicks typically good

731
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: guys always die too. Well, I mean technically, you know,

732
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: it's probably all bad guys.

733
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Speaker 3: Everybody. Uh, the Ginko bed so I imagined if Ginko

734
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Speaker 3: is also not going to get horns, I guess all right?

735
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: And then finally, who saw no what who saw the

736
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Speaker 3: dragon's claw? Good rhyme, and that is kange. You the

737
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Speaker 3: Steven Spielberg of South Korea in an effort to pander

738
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Speaker 3: toward our Korean listeners. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Nobody panders to our Korean listeners like the Petros and money.

740
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Speaker 3: Shows anybody in Asia. A lot of pandering going on here.

741
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Speaker 3: We are your show of record except you, me and mar.

742
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: All Right, we'll be right back and we'll say goodbye

743
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: for the year with the fun fact and crickets and

744
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: then you'll have the clippers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah,