WEBVTT - 12-3-25 R+L Carriers Sports Talk with Lance McAlister 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:25.320 The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm. 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.440 All right, let's get to it at seven h seven. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:31.360 Seven hundred WLW Welcome in RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.240 by Kelsey Chevrolet. Two hours to get it done tonight, man, 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:35.920 do we have some grind to cover. We have a 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.640 developing situation with the Reds. Let me give you the 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.440 cliff Notes version on that. Sea Trent is reporting the 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.159 Reds in Emilio. Pagan have reached terms agreement on a 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:49.760 two year contract. Details to follow. My first guest is 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.680 a Cincinnati kid. You might remember him as a sports 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.440 anchor and reporter for Channel five from twenty eighteen to 0:00:55.480 --> 0:01:00.200 twenty twenty two. After battling depression and suicidal thoughts, he 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:04.280 checked himself into a mental health hospital, began treatment, found 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.040 a new purpose, left TV, became a mental health advocate 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.240 host of the Mental Game podcast. You might remember he 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.880 joined me in studio back in twenty twenty two. What 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.600 a journey since. What an incredible latest chapter We're going 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.679 to get to in a second, But what a pleasure 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:22.120 to welcome back Brandon. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:23.120 Sayo, how are you? 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:28.560 I'm good land man. I look back to that moment 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.200 in the studio. I think we had like maybe ten 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.399 or fifteen minutes carved out. We ended up doing an 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.880 hour together. And now I'll be forever grateful for you 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.440 letting me share my story that way on the radio, 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.080 because it was the first time that I really told 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.319 a lot of those stories of my mental health struggle. 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:46.960 So thanks man. I love it, and I'm excited to 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:47.320 be back. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.160 Well, I'm so proud of what you are doing and 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.960 so excited about what you're doing. And that night I 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.480 get goosebumps and my hair stands up on my arms 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.720 just remembering the things we discussed that night. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:57.520 Let's do this. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.560 Before we get to the incredible news, a little bit 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.240 of backtracking. It's set up for those who may not 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.960 be aware of what all is going on. Tell listeners 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.440 what your mission is with the Mental Game podcast. 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.200 Yeah, so, I mean I struggled from fourteen years old 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.480 on as a freshman at Lasal with suicidal thoughts all 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.560 the way through college and even when I got my 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.160 dream job working at WLWT and getting to do the 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:24.000 sports with George and Elise and the crew at Channel 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.640 five and covering the Bengal is going to the Super Bowl. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.880 No one really knew that behind the scenes, I was 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.280 battling suicide every second, every day for those three months 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.680 leading up to that Super Bowl we run. I had 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.000 three family members passed away, including my cousin Ben, who's 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:40.880 based on my older brother. He had a heart attack 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:44.440 at thirty one. I dealt with all this pressure on me, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.600 obviously at work, which I loved, but it's a lot. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.280 And then I always felt alone and wanted to have 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.600 that picture perfect you know, high school sweetheart, marriage and 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.240 family and kids like we do here in Cincinnati. And 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.959 I thought I finally found that person with that relationship, 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:01.080 with going through a really tough moment and break up 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.480 and toxic relationship, and so I get the rock bottom. Man, 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.400 we're at twenty eight. I had to go to my 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.800 mom for the first time ever. He's the first person 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.519 I ever told like, I don't want to live anymore. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.919 I don't know how to live and I need help. 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.440 And that is the first time I asked for help. 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.640 And I checked into a hospital at the Lenders Center 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.160 Hope and Mason. That helped save my life the next day, 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.240 And that was the first step, man. But it's been 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.040 a long, long journey since that day. In twenty twenty two. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.320 And your Mental Game podcast is just blowing up and 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.560 you it seems if I had a map in front 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.200 of me. You are traversing the country talking with with 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.440 athletes and celebrities and they are opening up to you. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:42.760 And I'm struck by how. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:47.960 Comfortable you make them in very uncomfortable conversations. They're opening 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.120 up to you about stuff like this. Give listeners an 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.960 idea of some of the people you've talked to over 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.480 the course of the last few years. 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.400 Well, I have to give Sam Hubbard credit. That guy 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.480 is a good friend of mine. Obviously a chance to 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.120 cover him with the Bengals and I was at Channel five, 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.360 but I texted him I had the idea, and I'm like, man, 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.680 I got this idea to talk with athletes about mental health. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.160 Can I try it with you? And he invited me 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:12.920 over to his house on an off day. I ended 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.960 up becoming the first ever episode, and without Sam it 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.360 wouldn't happen. But man, it's been crazy. I mean it 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.160 started with Sam, Ricky Williams, one of my first guests, 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.960 Jake Frailey with the Reds when he was still in town. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.120 But it's grown now where you know, I moved to 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.839 LA almost two years ago. Now I drove my car 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.839 out there, which is a long trick. But you know, 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.520 I've been able to sit down with people like Harry 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.279 Crews and it was the first time that he ever 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.560 opened up about being suicidal, and he chose to do 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:41.800 it with me because he felt comfortable with my vulnerability 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.240 in my story. And so they get to sit down 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.400 with some of these big time people in sports, whether 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.799 it's Adam Schefter, Will Wade, Ted Carrett, you know, Ryan 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.760 shay Z or Nate Burlison, these people that you think 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.320 have nothing wrong, and they're rich and they're strong, and 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.479 they're playing in the NFL, they're on TV. Guess what 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.960 we all struggle, We all go through stuff. And so 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.320 I love what I've been able to do with the 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.640 pod and it's not something I ever dreamed of, but 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.760 it's become my true purpose. And really that purpose is 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:11.880 the in person stuff I get to do when I'm 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:16.240 in schools or I'm at businesses, or I'm at LSU 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.000 with Joe Burrow's parents, talking to thousands of people about 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.920 mental health. Maybe for the first time they're talking about 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.360 it because it's sports related. That's the whole goal. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:29.320 Man, your newest chapter is pretty dang incredible, and you 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.800 are the subject of the interview. Explain what happened yesterday 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.040 and who you talked to and who talked to you. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.280 I can't believe every time I stay this sentence, because 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.560 it's been a seekert I've had to keep for about 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:48.760 three weeks. But I sat down with Oprah Winfrey, which 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.279 is insane to say out loud, and I got to 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.520 share my story with her. You know, I had. I 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.440 had this video that went viral about three weeks ago 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.000 where I talked about nothing's for it related not really 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:05.680 mental health, but my fear of never being a father 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.600 or a husband one day and I did not know 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.920 that video would change my life and get to Oprah 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.920 and her want to talk to me about it. It 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:20.760 was incredible to see the outpouring of messages from men 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.320 and women. But lance I'm talking about like I went 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.120 to bed on a Friday night posted just not thinking anything, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.279 not putting a ton of effort into it, and I 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.280 woke up and had millions of views. I mean, it's 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.080 got like fifteen million across three or four platforms. Now, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.040 I've heard from people all over the world. And one 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.279 of those people was her producer. And I'm sitting at 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:43.440 the Roses with my mom, like I'm in town for 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.640 twenty four hours. I was speaking out Mountain ut her name, 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.800 and I go to the Roses in Blue Ash with 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.720 my mom and I'm like, Mom, I just got an 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.760 email about Oprah, Like I don't know what this is, 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.320 and so I called the guy and it's legit and 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.680 long story short, Yeah, I was able to sit down 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.159 with her. She had this amazing episode with Scott Galloway. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.800 It's kind of the feature GATSI, the Great men's mental 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.640 health coach and author and professor at NYU, but the 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.119 whole episode was about male loneliness and so for about 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.120 eight to ten minutes they featured my story and I 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.320 got to have that conversation with Oprah and the audience, 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:20.720 and man, it was. It was special and it was 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.600 really hard to hold on to until yesterday. But when 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.760 you're with one of the all time greats when it 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.880 comes to TV and entertainment and just I mean lance, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.000 she's one of the top ten living people. Yeah, Like 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:38.080 it's insane to say that, but it was really powerful. Man. 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.040 There's some cool moments that I'll share here in a 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.200 sec but just to get the chance to sit with 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.120 her and have that conversation on a stage like that. 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.120 I mean my phone that I put it out yesterday. 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.640 It was pretty wild. I haven't stopped. 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:49.240 Man. 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.920 So you said it's about eight to ten minutes. Where 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:56.720 where did it take place? And how can listeners? You 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.040 would watch it right now? 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.400 Yeah? So she shot in New York. That's where we 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.360 sho She shoots these group ones kind of with a 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:07.680 fifty person audience. It kind of feels like her old show, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.600 but in a podcast form. And so yeah, out on 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.680 the Open again. This sounds so weird to say out 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.080 loud because I'm just a normal dude, But you can 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.520 find me talking with Oprah on the Open podcast on 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:22.800 iHeartRadio and all of your podcast platforms, and uh yeah, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.320 it was just really special, man. I think what was 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.960 really cool She plays that video and I actually just 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.440 put this on Instagram right before you know, I hopped 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.240 on with you and she plays the video on Oprah 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:35.840 and I like kind of tear up together and she 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.600 pats her heart at me and it was just like 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:44.000 this moment of man, Oprah's talking about my story and 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.960 I'm on this platform, and it's like I had this 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.840 moment afterwards and it's a it's we talk about my 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.160 dating life, my mental health journey, what I do with 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.400 the mental game, you know, this vulnerability piece that I 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.160 think so many men are afraid to having because we're 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.680 told we're weak if we're emotional. This BS that isn't true. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.280 But we were fed our entire life. But after the 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:08.000 interview gets done, Lance, I walk backstage with Oprah and 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.079 I'm sitting there and we're having a conversation, we take pictures, 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:12.560 we hug, and all of a sudden, I just like 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.120 hear this other person start running towards us and they're going, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:17.800 I love this brandy guy. I got to meet him 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.560 and it's Gail King, and I'm like, what is my 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.680 life right now? Where I'm sitting backstage and I'm like 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.640 the sandwich of an Oprah. Gail and me hug. It 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.640 was like the coolest thing ever. And at that point, 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.440 Oprah's you know team, they saw that, like Gail and 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.440 Oprah trusted me enough where it was just us for 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.480 like five minutes, and I got to have that moment 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.240 in my head where during that five minutes of us 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.520 talking and just telling each other's story and connecting adopta 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.240 who we obviously they know everyone, but like I have 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.120 connection with Nate on my show and CBS Morning. But 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:52.560 I had like ten seconds in my head man that 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.600 I went, you are literally standing with Oprah and Gail 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.320 King in New York City getting to do what you 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.880 dreamed of. Like this is what all those nights walking 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.160 on the road, Lank thinking about taking your life, going 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.840 to therapy, starting this thing, quitting your job, driving uber, 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.480 having no money, getting sober, like all this stuff. Man, 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:18.640 it was worth it in like that ten seconds. I 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.400 you talked to like people like Burrow or these athletes 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.240 and they're like, not just another game, they don't really 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.040 have time to soak it all in. I made sure that, 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.920 like I soaked that in for at least ten seconds 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.400 of that time because it was a special dude, man oh. 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.840 Man, And it kind of paint the picture of what 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.400 you can. You do a lot of traveling. In fact, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.120 I think you're going to be in if I have 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:40.920 your itinerary or right, are you going to be an 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.120 Indian Saturday as part of an event around the IU 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.360 Loisville basketball game. 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.400 Yeah, So the care Source Invitational I've got really lucky 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.600 where we've been out a partner, the Mental Game and 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.520 Care Source, thanks to the University of DAT and the 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.160 coach Grant you know, you know his story where they 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.600 lost their daughter Data and they started Javelite to raise 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.560 awareness for mental health and funds to help people in 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.560 the community. And started with one game with Dayton three 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.840 years ago and a town hall at ud and now 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.880 it's turned into this cross country tour. We have three 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.040 or four games each year. This one in India is huge, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.559 man one. It's on the day of the Big Ten 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.920 title game with IU who's playing of course Ohio State, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.440 but we're on national TV on CBS. It's a huge 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.480 game and it's all about mental health. Obviously they want 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.760 to win on the court, but it's a mental health 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.920 awareness game. So what's really cool is the day before 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.560 so on Friday, both coaches and both teams will join 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:40.040 us at a local high school and we'll surprise the 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.800 kids and we have this big pep rally. I do 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.840 my fifteen minute keynote, really interactive, getting the celebrities that 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.480 I know involved, with teams involved, and then they do 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.240 drills with the players and coaches that get to interact. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:56.040 It's a special, special thing that you see Ohio State Dager, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.679 our old buddy coach cal and Arkansas has done it 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.520 with a couple of years too. It's been really special, man. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.600 But yeah, I'm going there. I'm in Dayton tomorrow and 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.079 then I'm in Indy this weekend and back to LA. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.040 Before I'm obviously I was in Texas and South Dakota 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.240 and month. It's it's insane. We got forty six states down, four. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.600 To go, Brandon. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.880 I can't imagine that the power of the connection you're 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.479 making when when you take this message to schools or businesses. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.040 There are two events and and I watched the crowds 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.240 you're talking to, and there's probably moments where you make 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.560 eye contact with somebody who may be tearing up, and 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.600 and just the connection and the help you're offering them 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.000 when you put your head on the pillow at night, 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:37.880 it's just got to make you feel so good. 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.560 The how you're impacting lives. 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:46.040 It is pretty crazy, man. It's like being on Oprah 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.440 is awesome. Getting to meet some of the people and 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.960 live in LA and rough shoulders with who I'm rubbing 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.640 shoulders with now is life changing. But the real life 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.520 changing and life stating and stuff. Is what I get 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.640 to do when I'm at my alma mater at the 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.440 South and I get I get to talk to those 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.880 kids that were you know that I've been in their shoes. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.080 Or I get to be at UC, or I get 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.280 to be at UD and with these businesses. Hey, dude, 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.120 it doesn't matter if it's ten people in a high 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.480 school classroom or ten thousand in a basketball arena this weekend. 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.920 Every time I stay after and talk and meet with 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.400 people one on one as long as I possibly can, 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.720 and every time, at least one usually more come up 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.800 and say, hey, man, I never told anyone this, but 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.480 I'm suicidal right now. I need help. I don't know 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.680 what to do. Can you help me? And it breaks 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.600 my heart, but it also warms my heart because it 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.679 gives me that confidence that we're doing the right thing. 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.880 We're creating a safe space, and we always have resources 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.080 with us so we can help them in those moments. 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:48.720 And man, I'm not saying this is like a look 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.880 at me thing, but we've been to forty six states. 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.199 We touched them on two hundred and fifty thousand lives 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.400 in person last year and a half and man, my 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.000 goal is to finish off fifty and then I don't know. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.119 I got open on myself. Now let's go International's Australia 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:02.560 right now. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.880 Unbelievable, Oh incredible. For those listening who want to check 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.760 out the Mental Game podcast who want to maybe connect 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.160 with you about bringing your message to where they are, 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.240 tell them all the information they need how they can 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.560 seek you out and check out your stuff of course. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.600 Yeah, go to the Mental Dot Game. The Mental Dot Game, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.000 you can see where I'm going to be at, but 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.920 you can also hit us up and email our team. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.520 I love to come the high schools, middle schools, businesses. 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.440 I'll tell you what. Man, talking to people our age 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.640 that maybe don't talk about mental health ever and breaking 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.760 that that stigma with them is really really special. You 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.000 can see where I'm going to be at. I love 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.680 to meet up with people, make content videos and just 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.520 be able to have conversations. And it's funny that obviously 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.960 I'm in Cincinnati. I was at your studio twice today 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.440 due to separate times, but I'm two hours late to 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.120 the family party that I had to celebrate Oprah, So 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.960 I'm gonna hang up and go party with the West 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.760 for a little bit to night. But I love you, man, I. 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.800 Love you too, and I'm so happy for you and 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.800 so proud of what you're doing. And just keep it 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:13.360 rolling and definitely keep in touch and keep doing what 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.280 you're doing and making the impact you're making. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.600 I appreciate it, man, and thank you for letting me 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.440 do that with you so many times on this platform. 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:22.720 I know we're going to help a lot of people. 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:23.080 Man in the. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:28.040 Tripty sounds good. Thanks Brandon, awesome, thank you, there you go, Brandon, Sayo, 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.520 what an incredible story. I will never forget the night 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.520 he was in studio back in twenty twenty two talking 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.200 about what he was going to what he was facing 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.360 in his life at that point, and the decision to 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.120 turn to the Mental Game podcast and create that and 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.880 try to reach out and connect and have the impact 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:51.320 he's having unbelievable and Oprah of all conversations with her 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.840 yesterday really really cool. All right, there are developing situations 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.240 on multiple fronts. I've got headlines to get to, got 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.560 some Red's news to get to. Bill Rebinowitz is going 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:04.200 to join up covering the Ohio State Buckeyes. Chris Welsh 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.640 will join US Talk, a little Reds and more as 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.440 we continue with RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:15.160 Chevrolet seven hundred wwright, let me give you the short, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.320 quick condensed version of the headlines. According to the Athletic 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.840 and C Trent Rosecrans, the Reds have reached an agreement 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.080 with Emilio Pagan for him to return his Reds closer 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:28.040 two years at twenty million dollars in option after year 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.680 one his option after year one. More on that in 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.920 a bit. Former Bengals quarterback Ken Anderson among five finalists 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:38.280 named the individuals named finalists for the Pro Football Hall 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.080 of Fame class of twenty twenty six. Former Bengals offensive 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.520 lineman Willie Anderson was already a finalist in the Modern 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.640 Era category. Each finalist now awaits an eighty percent approval 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.920 vote from the full selection committee ahead of the Super Bowl. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:56.240 College football, University of South Florida USF is hiring Ohio 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.960 State offensive coordinator Brian Hartline Cyclones forward Ryan Kerwin is 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:03.480 the ECHL Rookie of the Month man he tore it 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.760 up in November. Signing Day today for college football, u 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.360 SE signs a class of twenty two, including seven from Ohio. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:16.400 One from Cincinnati taf linebacker Adam Kurty Moehler, quarterback Met 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:21.439 Ponitowski signs with Kentucky. Chris Henry, the son of the 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.960 former Bengals wide receiver, was to sign with Ohio State 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:30.959 today but is now considering Ohio State, Oregon, and USC 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:35.199 after Brian Hartline, the offensive coordinator Ohio State and his 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.520 position coach at Ohio State, has left to take the 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.640 USF job. That's the shortened version of what you need 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.960 to know today. Speaking of Ohio State, Bill Rabinowitz is 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.879 on the beat covering the Buckeyes, who played for the 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.560 Big Ten championship on Saturday. He's also written an outstanding 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.359 book about last year's title run to the national championship 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:56.000 for the Buckeyes. 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:57.680 He's going to join me after news. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.879 Chris Welsh perfectly time TOI and joins me at eight 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.879 oh five. I'll ask him about the Emilio Pegan news 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.800 and so much more ahead on RNL Carrier Sports Talk 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:19.280 presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. Seven hundred WLWE seven hundred WLW 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:23.160 RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. I'm Lance Bercallister. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.000 I'm very excited to welcome on our next guest. I 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:27.439 can't imagine how busy he is this week, and so 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.159 kind of him to take out time tonight. 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:30.240 Let's talk buck Eyes. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:33.040 It's Ohio State in Indiana for the Big Ten Championships 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.000 Saturday night in Indy. My next guest covers the buck 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:38.720 Eyes covered him for fourteen years with the Columbus Dispatch. 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.040 These Days on Substack, author of fabulous books on Ohio 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:45.440 State football, Buckeye Rebirth about the undefeated twenty twelve team, 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:49.479 The Chase after their twenty fourteen National championship season, the 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.119 newest one on last season's title, Buckeye Brotherhood is a 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.760 must read for moron all of that. Let's welcome in 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:01.000 Bill Rabinowitz. How are you. 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.600 Good, l Ance. Thanks for a very kind introduction. 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:03.800 Appreciate it, you got it. 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.399 It is so great to catch up with you and 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.199 so happy for all that you have going on. The 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.119 book is fabulous. Let me start from this point. What 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.840 a difference in vibe and narrative around this program and 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.359 around Ryan Day compared to a year ago at this 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:17.840 time after losing to Michigan. 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.760 Yeah, absolutely, I mean, in fact, it was a day. 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.880 It was the Tuesday after the Michigan game last year, 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:29.040 that they had this now famous team meeting with Ryan Day, 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.800 just Ryan Day and the players, and they went at 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:36.520 it in a healthy way, but a very brutally honest 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:38.959 way about what had gone wrong against Michigan, what they 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.560 needed to correct before the playoffs. That really ended up 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.040 being a cathartic meeting, and we all know what happened 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:45.439 after that. 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:47.240 But they entered the room. 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:50.600 That day a very very demorrowized team and they left 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.120 it a really inspired team. 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.440 Bill was that book Buckeye Brotherhood? 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.480 Was the book in the works from the start of 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.960 the season, or did the season rise to the level 0:19:58.960 --> 0:19:59.800 of writing a book. 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:01.200 Yeah? 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.479 No, I did not plan to write another book. It'sact 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:05.960 all of them have been kind of accidental. 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:06.359