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Speaker 2: Here we go Friday Football Frenzy. Eric hit my music,

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Speaker 2: welcome in. Hope everybody had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Chad Brenda

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Speaker 2: in for Tony and Austin Sincy three sixty here on

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Speaker 2: Black Friday. I hope everybody's having fun. Hope you're not

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Speaker 2: trying to get into Kenwood Mall. Thank you as always

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Speaker 2: for choosing me. That was Tarran. That was the traffic

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Speaker 2: report on the way in. Everything is clear unless you're

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Speaker 2: trying to go to Kenwood.

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Speaker 3: Mall or Rookwood Commons. I drove past there and that exited.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy too.

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Speaker 2: The daughter and the girlfriend are at Kenwood now pray

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Speaker 2: for them. They might still be I left them about

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Speaker 2: forty five minutes ago. They might still be trying to

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Speaker 2: find a parting spot. You know, it's having a better

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Speaker 2: day than anybody trying to shop at Kenwood Mall. The

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, yes, sir, pretty much domination last night of

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens. Mainly because some guy

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Speaker 2: named Burrow played quarterback for the Bengals yesterday and he

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Speaker 2: was excellent. I think I would keep him as the start.

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is like this is not a

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Speaker 2: shot at Joe Flacco. Like Joe Flacco played great. It

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Speaker 2: just looks so different when Joe's out there. Burrow.

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Speaker 4: It just.

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Speaker 2: His ability to maneuver the offense, his ability to manipulate

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Speaker 2: a defense, to see what's happening as it's happening, before

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Speaker 2: it's happening. Did he have like the best game of

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Speaker 2: his career. No, And you could tell early he was

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Speaker 2: trying to find his rhythm. He missed a couple. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, this thing could have been a lot different.

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Speaker 2: It could have been even more of a domination than

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Speaker 2: it was. The Bengals settled for four field goals in

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Speaker 2: the first half, and it had that feeling of boy,

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Speaker 2: you got an outstanding half from your defense and you're

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Speaker 2: up twelve to seven, and this defense can't possibly hold

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Speaker 2: up over a full game against Lamar Jackson in that offense.

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Speaker 2: But then the second half was even better than the first.

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Speaker 2: Joe got cooking a little bit, great throat to Jamar

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Speaker 2: Chase for forty three yards. The touchdown pass to Tanner

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Speaker 2: Hudson was a thing of beauty. The touchdown pass to

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Speaker 2: Andre Yoshivas perfectly layered over a defender in front, right

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Speaker 2: into Yoshavash's hands with a safety over the top, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden feel little leaf creeping in. Is

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Speaker 2: it too late, Let's be honest. Yeah, it's probably too late,

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Speaker 2: But we've seen this team go on end of season

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Speaker 2: runs before with Joe Burrow under center. It's not completely

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Speaker 2: out of the realm with possibility. And really, when you

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Speaker 2: start getting digging deep into it, you've got the next

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Speaker 2: two that are very difficult, the Bills in Buffalo and

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Speaker 2: then the Ravens here the next two weeks. But then

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Speaker 2: you end the season with Dolphins, Cardinals, Browns. The Bengals

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Speaker 2: have a chance to go five and one in the division,

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Speaker 2: a division that's not very daunting right now, Steelers are

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Speaker 2: six and five, Ravens are six and six, Bengals are

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Speaker 2: four and eight. Now, could they definitely use some help

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Speaker 2: from the Bills this week as the Steelers host the

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Speaker 2: Bills at four to twenty five on Sunday. Sure, send

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Speaker 2: your two games out, five games to play and you

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Speaker 2: can at least see it. You can at least feel

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Speaker 2: like it's a possibility. And why obviously, because you have

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow twenty four forty six two sixty one, two touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: no interceptions, only one sack. We saw him, especially early,

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Speaker 2: quite a bit more under center play action, being a

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Speaker 2: little bit more efficient, being a little bit more. They

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Speaker 2: were careful to not leave Joe back there exposed. But

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Speaker 2: then as the game got going, you could see Burrows

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Speaker 2: settle in, You could see him get comfortable, you could

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Speaker 2: see him start spreading the ball around. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase had seven catches, he had fourteen targets, so

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Speaker 2: they were, you know, trying to get the ball to Chase,

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Speaker 2: who notoriously cooks the Ravens. Chase Brown was the checkdown

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Speaker 2: guy seven for thirty five, but then Josebash one catch

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Speaker 2: different receivers in those twenty four completions. When somebody got open,

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Speaker 2: Burrow got him the ball. The running game was solid

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Speaker 2: He was in there to get kind of those those tough,

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Speaker 2: eight per carry, but Chase Brown five point two. You'll

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Speaker 2: take five point two all day every day. There was

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Speaker 2: one play I didn't like. Tern you know which play

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Speaker 2: I don't like Joe in the tush push. Did you

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Speaker 4: I didn't see the end of it.

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Speaker 2: He I mean he looked like an accordion. His lower

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Speaker 2: body was low upper body was high, head was pushed back.

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Speaker 2: That's not a Joe Burrow play. You know. One of

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Speaker 2: the reasons Jalen Hurts is so good at that is

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Speaker 2: because he gets almost as low as his offensive line

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Speaker 2: that's not you like what I did there. That was

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Speaker 2: pretty clever. H That is not Joe Burrow's game. He

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Speaker 2: he got folded up pretty good.

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Speaker 2: It was good to see that he bounced back from

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Speaker 2: I don't love Joe Burrow in the tush push, But

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Speaker 2: other than that, it didn't really ever feel like he

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Speaker 2: They gave him time. It felt like he was even

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Speaker 2: maybe more alert to what was happening in and around

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Speaker 2: trying to like escape. It felt like he was clean

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Speaker 2: out of the pocket, had open passing lanes, had room

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Speaker 2: threw it away when he needed to. If this is

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Speaker 2: the evolution of Burrow, I like it. I like it.

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Speaker 2: And imagine how that would have looked if he didn't

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Speaker 2: and that could have been forty to fourteen. And let's

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Speaker 2: be honest about the Ravens. They do not look good

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Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, nine catches combined for Likely and Andrews,

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Speaker 2: which you know, the book is out. The Bengals linebackers

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Speaker 2: There were plays to be had over the middle of

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Speaker 2: more than two catches for Baltimore, one for Henry, two

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Speaker 2: And let's let's talk about the defense, because that is

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Speaker 2: what people have been talking about. Like they didn't look

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Speaker 2: from Baltimore, you're doing a pretty dang good job. But

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Speaker 2: they battled, they fought.

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Speaker 2: Forced fumble. Jordan Battle got cooked on that route by

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Speaker 2: Likely and lost connection to him. As Likely catches the pass,

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Speaker 2: Likely rolls in for a pretty easy touchdown, and instead,

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Speaker 2: Battle kept up the pressure and forced the fumble right

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Speaker 2: in a pivotal sequence there in the first half. That

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Speaker 2: would would have given Baltimore fourteen before halftime Bengals would

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Speaker 2: have been trailing. Who knows the difference and the score

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Speaker 2: at that point in time what it actually would have

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Speaker 2: ended up as. But that's who this defense needs to

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Speaker 2: be because they're not the most talented group in the world.

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Speaker 2: But they've got to hustle, they've got to fight, they've

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Speaker 2: some of the deficiencies that they have. There were still

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Speaker 2: some mistackles, there was still at times pretty poor linebacker play,

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Speaker 2: but you know what they got, They got really good games.

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Speaker 2: One Joseph Assi two sacks, four tackles, four quarterback hits.

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Speaker 2: He made things tough for Lamar Jackson all day. And

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Speaker 2: then Miles Murphy was kind of the robin to his batman.

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Speaker 2: Murphy had three tackles, a pass defended, and was around

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Speaker 2: the football most of the night. From the defensive end position.

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Speaker 2: That's what the Bengals have been missing. That's where the

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Speaker 2: defense can evolve. That's what That's why it's so important

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Speaker 2: to have a pass rush because I thought also there

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Speaker 2: were a couple times in that second half where Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson was inaccurate because his clock was sped up because

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Speaker 2: on third down, on fourth down to send pressure, and

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Speaker 2: if you watch that second half, third down, Al Golden

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Speaker 2: sent a ton of pressure and made Lamar Jackson make

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Speaker 2: first down run that was pretty impressive, but six carries

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Speaker 2: for twenty seven yards. You'll live with that from Lamar

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Speaker 2: Jackson all day. But because they were able to make

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Speaker 2: third and you know longer. You're not in those situations

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Speaker 2: less and you're worried if you send pressure, they're just

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Speaker 2: gonna hit a hot route, they're gonna get something out quick,

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna beat the coverage. The Bengals didn't allow

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Speaker 2: that to happen at Dax Hill had a pretty good game.

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Speaker 2: Two passes defended, six tackles. DJ Turner was solid, evidenced

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Speaker 2: by the wide receivers not really being able to do

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Speaker 2: still leave you scratching your head at some point in time,

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Speaker 2: but the two of them combined for fourteen tackles and

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Speaker 2: it wasn't a lot of like making plays down the

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Speaker 2: all in all, give out Golden's unit a gold star

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Speaker 2: because I thought they finally looked like the version that

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Speaker 2: we hoped for at the beginning of the season and

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Speaker 2: now this is three weeks in a row. This is

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Speaker 2: the best that they've played, holding Baltimore to fourteen. But

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Speaker 2: three weeks in a row, the defense has played well

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Speaker 2: enough for Cincinnati to win. And that's absolutely an improvement

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Speaker 2: over the nine games prior, where it just felt like

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Speaker 2: it didn't matter no matter what the Bengals did, it

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Speaker 2: was going to be a disaster. Taryn and I, I

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Speaker 6: afternoon at three for Bengals pep rally on the Official

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Speaker 7: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 8: Bess waking up in the morning, gotta thank god.

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Speaker 4: It was a good day. How was How was the meal? Phenomenal?

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Speaker 2: You wanted my uncle's turkey, but that was gone. My

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get you some for Christmas, I promise.

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Speaker 2: But it didn't happen yesterday. It was gone quick. It

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Speaker 4: No, I'm just the fact that he went to Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Well, I said it before we drafted them. I know, pissed.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow from last night's victory in his sweet fur coat.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully that's fate.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, obviously I had to knock some rust

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Speaker 10: I don't know anything. I don't know about that, and

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Speaker 5: Was there anything both to getting me back into it

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Speaker 10: You know, I think for the most part, you just

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Speaker 10: and the way we were running the ball, it was

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Speaker 10: take your points kind of game.

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Speaker 5: Obviously.

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Speaker 10: The one that really, the one that really hurt was

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Speaker 10: when we got the turnover down there and came out

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Speaker 10: with no points. You know, typically something like that happens,

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Speaker 10: it's gonna be tough to win the game.

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Speaker 15: But if we were able to pull it out all four.

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Speaker 10: Stat yeah, and then that was really the only drive

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Speaker 10: that they did that.

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Speaker 5: And then.

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Speaker 10: The next couple of times they they were still playing

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Speaker 10: some man and like I said, doubling Jamar sometimes, not

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Speaker 10: doubling them sometimes. But we needed somebody to make a play,

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Speaker 10: and Tanner made that play on in my opinion, won

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Speaker 10: the best safety in the league who just continuously makes

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Speaker 10: play after play. And that one really opened the flood gates.

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Speaker 10: It's so credit tanh won.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Joe Burrow. Well, we'll hear

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Speaker 2: from Zach Taylor a little bit later in the show.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break. Bone mines are open, five, one, three, fifteen,

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Speaker 2: thirty talkbacks are open. Get those in.

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Speaker 16: Uh.

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Speaker 2: This is since he three to sixty a service of

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Speaker 2: Skyline Chili.

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Speaker 7: You've been listening to football in the Natti on ESPN

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Speaker 7: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Alexa, who's gonna win it all?

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Speaker 14: I know that hiring can be challenged.

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Speaker 4: Do you saw it through tons of resumes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Tony, Tony, Tony, he's not here. Ye, you get

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Speaker 2: me instead, Chad, Chad, Chad. All right, we've uh, we

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Speaker 2: got the stage set. We've heard from Joe Burrow. Now

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Speaker 2: let's hear from you. Like I said, no guest today,

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Speaker 2: I left today completely wide open. This is a fan

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Speaker 2: friendly Friday football frenzy. That's a lot of ass. Let's

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Speaker 2: go out to the phones. Mark and Florence. Mark, what's

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Speaker 2: up my brother?

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Speaker 11: Hey, how's it going?

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Speaker 13: Tad?

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Speaker 2: I'm great.

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Speaker 8: I was glad they won the game last night. I

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Speaker 8: was actually surprised they won the game last night. But

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Speaker 8: I see the same consistent thing with this coach. He

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Speaker 8: gets on the two yard line and tried to spread

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Speaker 8: the offense out and throw the ball instead of running it.

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Speaker 8: It's like my opinion of him is if he had

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Speaker 8: Dallas Cowboys offensive line in the early nineties, but he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He's got one of the worst offensive lines. It's past.

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Speaker 8: But even if he did, and he had a Hall

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Speaker 8: of Fame running back, he would still throw the ball.

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Speaker 8: I think he's gonna go down, you know, throwing the

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Speaker 8: ball at all calls. I mean, Joe Burrow threw the

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Speaker 8: ball forty six times last night. He's got a decent

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Speaker 8: he got a decent running game. I mean, when is

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Speaker 8: he ever going to learn when you get in the

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Speaker 8: red zone, you got to use the tight ends over

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Speaker 8: the middle of the field. I think with a miss

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Speaker 8: Matt g Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I agree to an extent, but you're gonna put the

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Speaker 2: ball in the hands of nine Mark. Like, you can

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Speaker 2: complain about whatever you want, and Zach has given us

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Speaker 2: plenty of things to complain about, but one of them

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Speaker 2: is not they gave the ball to Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 2: let him do his thing. Like, Joe Burrow is a

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Speaker 2: top three quarterback and he might not be two or

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Speaker 2: three in the NFL. So you're gonna ride or die

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Speaker 2: with Joe, and you gotta trust what he sees it

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Speaker 2: sometimes right.

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Speaker 8: Okay, But at the two yard line, I mean, can

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Speaker 8: I get one running play?

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Speaker 2: They did run one time and got a quarter of

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Speaker 2: a yard.

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Speaker 8: You know, well, well what about two from the two

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Speaker 8: yard line? How about how about can we run it twice?

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Speaker 2: Okay? But but Mark, it's a double edged sword because

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Speaker 2: if they run it twice and they get no yards

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Speaker 2: and they still come away with nothing, everybody's gonna say,

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Speaker 2: why didn't you just put it in the hands of

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow? Now, but here's here's where you could, I think,

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Speaker 2: make a valid argument. There is that was early in

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Speaker 2: that game, and Burrow was clearly rusty, clearly rusty, and

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Speaker 2: you're asking him to make a couple super tight window throws,

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Speaker 2: the fade, the slant like you're asking him. You're asking

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Speaker 2: him at that point. Now if it was third or

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter when he was cooking. Yeah, like you give

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Speaker 2: Joe the ball?

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Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, I guess Now they won the game last night,

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Speaker 8: and let me ask you this question and then I'll

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Speaker 8: get off. Do you look at it more like they

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Speaker 8: beat the Ravens or the Ravens helped them out, because

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Speaker 8: what if they're likely fumble don't happen at the goal line, but.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals made that fumble happen.

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Speaker 8: Okay, got it? And then that push off where that

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Speaker 8: guy had to touch down. But he had pushed off.

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Speaker 8: I mean he had he had had to be back beat. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: he didn't really even have to push off.

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Speaker 2: He didn't.

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Speaker 8: But you know, that may have been a different game.

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Speaker 8: But hey, they got five turnos and they won the game.

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Speaker 8: So I'm not taking anything away from them.

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Speaker 2: Mark. If it's some butts for candy and nuts, we'd

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Speaker 2: all have a merry Christmas. Right, Okay, here's the thing

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Speaker 2: I will say, just real quick, here's the thing I

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Speaker 2: will say. On the turnovers. Sometimes those things are fluky, right,

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Speaker 2: Sometimes there's stuff that happens, and it didn't really feel

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Speaker 2: like the defense was all that involved in it happening.

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Speaker 2: I thought they forced those turnovers. You had the tip

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Speaker 2: ball at the line of scrimmage for the interception, you

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Speaker 2: had the hustle play from battle on the fumble, the

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Speaker 2: play on uh Zay Flowers, the ball got punched out,

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Speaker 2: Like I thought, the Bengals were the aggressor, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of those turnovers were the results of the Bengals

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Speaker 2: making a play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I just wish I just wish he would run the

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Speaker 8: ball a little more. Yeah, but we'll see what happens

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Speaker 8: and if they missed the playoffs by a game or two.

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Speaker 8: We're probably gonna.

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Speaker 2: Think about the Jet Jets and the Bears.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we gonna think about them.

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Speaker 2: Think about where they would be. They would be tied

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Speaker 2: for first place in the division if they didn't choke

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Speaker 2: away those two games.

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Speaker 8: Okay, yet it Okay, let me get off.

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Speaker 2: And appreciate you, Mark, thanks man. All right, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: take one more team. Okay, let's take a break and

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Speaker 2: we're back right after this. Since I's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: This is since he three S.

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Speaker 6: Four joined Dave Lapham and me this afternoon at three

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Speaker 6: for Bengals pep rally on the official home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is right. Here goes out to Oh the baby's.

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Speaker 2: Mamas, Mamas, baby mamas, Mamas, mamas, baby mamas, momas, baby

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Speaker 2: marmas mom. Closing out hour number three, Let's get back

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Speaker 2: out to the phones. Scott wants to talk Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: and Ken Anderson Hall of Fame. What's going on, Scott, Hey.

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Speaker 17: Great show as always, and happy belated Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Thank you you as well. Hope the turkey was wonderful.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and I hope the pull t Hamil's good too.

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Speaker 2: Pulled ham was excellent. My my uncle makes the best turkey,

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Speaker 2: so I usually just go for a lot of that.

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Speaker 17: Hey, my first question is do you feel that Trey

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Speaker 17: Hendrickson and I hate to ask this right now, or

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Speaker 17: do you think I'm back and help this team.

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Speaker 2: I'm so out on Trey at this point. I'm not

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Speaker 2: gonna lie. I get it, he's hurt, but the drama,

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Speaker 2: the shenanigans, the whatever that we've seen from him for

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Speaker 2: the past two years, and then to get the deal

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Speaker 2: and then this is the end result. Like, it's frustrating.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what. The way that Osaiah Murphy played

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Speaker 2: last night.

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Speaker 17: Was great.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine. Like, you know, if you can get more

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Speaker 2: of that, you don't need Trey Hendrickson. Would I like

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Speaker 2: him out there? Sure? Do I think he's a bit

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Speaker 2: of a one trick pony, yes? Yes? But would he

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Speaker 2: help the team? Yeah, he'd helped the team. He'd help

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Speaker 2: because defense is hair, because offensive lines have to pay

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Speaker 2: so much attention to him. But I mean, if he

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Speaker 2: comes back, he's he's not a He's more of a

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Speaker 2: rotat guy at that point, isn't he Absolutely?

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Speaker 17: He is a one trick pony. I mean, I do

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Speaker 17: miss those sacks to close that game.

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Speaker 2: Sure, but I'll tell you what, Al Golden showed a

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Speaker 2: little something that we had not seen from him yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Third down he was bringing seven like he was bringing.

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Speaker 2: These were not disguised blitzes. This was seven guys standing

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Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage saying Lamar, we're coming.

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Speaker 11: I liked it, and I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I loved it.

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Speaker 17: And secondly, sorry to switch subjects on you, do you

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Speaker 17: think Ken Anderson gets in this year? He's the only

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Speaker 17: quarterback left in that group.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how he doesn't. I mean, what are

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Speaker 2: we doing if Ken Anderson's not What are we doing

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Speaker 2: right now? That Ken Anderson's not in the Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame? It's ridiculous. So I do think he

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Speaker 2: gets in.

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Speaker 18: I hope.

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Speaker 17: So I don't know if this is true, but I

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Speaker 17: heard the Bengals do a lousy job of promoting their own.

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Speaker 2: Shocking Yeah, set Scott, that's I mean, that's hard to believe.

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Speaker 2: They do a hard time promoting Joe Burrow. Yeah, oh man,

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Speaker 2: I do, because I hate There's nothing I hate more

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Speaker 2: than these guys that get in after they're gone. Ken

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Speaker 2: deserves to be in Yeah, all right, thanks for the call,

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Speaker 2: many thank you appreciate it. Have a great weekend, all right.

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Speaker 2: Our number one is in the books. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: keep the phone lines open in our two. Still a

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Speaker 2: lot of Bengals to get to. I guess in hour

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Speaker 2: three we'll get to the disaster at Fifth Third Arena

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday night and we'll talk a little Bearcats TCU

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Speaker 2: as the regular season comes to an end tomorrow three

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Speaker 2: point thirty. If you're around, you can join me at

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Speaker 2: the Holy Grail, where we will be watched watching the

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Speaker 2: Bearcats and TCU. Hopefully the the nasty stuff stays north

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Speaker 2: and west. Yes, correct, I don't feel like dealing with

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Speaker 2: that tomorrow at all, at all. Tern although Sunday it

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Speaker 2: has been there's been like five games and eight days,

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Speaker 2: five UC games and eight days, plus the Bengals stuff.

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Speaker 2: Plus I've been on the air a lot like Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I might hibernate like you. I might not come out

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Speaker 2: of my room, so a little snow might not be

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Speaker 2: a bad thing. Give me an excuse. Let's take a break.

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Speaker 2: Hour number two coming up. This is since E three

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Speaker 2: All right, our number two sensy three sixty in for

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Speaker 2: the boys. Tony and Austin back on Monday. There it

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Speaker 2: is Playline music. Tony and Austin back on Monday. Get

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Speaker 2: your talkbacks, Arrence says, we're light on talkbacks. We need

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Speaker 2: some more audience participation. Get your talkbacks in. We have

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Speaker 2: a lot to talk about. It is a big day yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for choosing me. Tarry and I I have

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Speaker 2: a question that came up yesterday at the previous like

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Speaker 2: eight days, was the cost of getting Joe Burrow back?

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Speaker 2: Is that worth it? Is it worth it to go

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Speaker 2: through the pain of a weekend that saw the Bearcats

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Speaker 2: basketball lose to a Rank Louisville Bearcats football lose to

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Speaker 2: a Rank BYU, the Bengals lose against New England even

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Speaker 2: though they played pretty well, and then FC Cincinnati gets

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Speaker 2: dump truck in the playoffs. I'm messy, and then the

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Speaker 2: Beericats on Wednesday Woff lose to Eastern Michigan. Is that

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Speaker 2: all worth it? If the exchange is Joe Burrow's back

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Speaker 2: and he's gonna give this team a jolt over the

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Speaker 2: final five weeks of the season. Is that a trade

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Speaker 2: you make? Is that a gamble that's worth it? Gotta

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Speaker 2: go through a week of some pain, but Burrow's back

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals have hope again. And if there's anything

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Speaker 2: we love more than anything in this town, it's a

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Speaker 2: quick whiff of that open hopium, the Hopium, not the

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Speaker 2: don't the Hopium. Let's go out to Dick and Dayton. Dick,

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Speaker 2: how was your Thanksgiving? My friend?

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Speaker 8: Hey, Chad?

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Speaker 13: It was great?

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Speaker 19: I went over to my friends at Oak Creek Terrace.

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Speaker 19: I've never had so much turkey dressing, Hash bound casserole,

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Speaker 19: sweet potato pie, and the pie. There was probably thirty

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Speaker 19: forty people, but it was very nice.

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Speaker 2: Dick, you're not a Gramby and castrole guy, are you.

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Speaker 20: A little bit? I like hash Brown Castrolet?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, that's more of a brunch thing for me.

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Speaker 2: But hashbrown casseroles good. Anything that involves potatoes and cheese.

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Speaker 2: I'm in, Dick.

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Speaker 19: Let's say something, Okay, I said to all my friends,

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Speaker 19: and I think I told when I was talking to

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Speaker 19: Jerry Jeff.

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Speaker 20: When Burrow got back, I had this feeling that they

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Speaker 20: were going to play great against the Ravens and the defense.

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Speaker 20: I'll give them an a.

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Speaker 19: They looked like a protein down there.

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Speaker 11: Chad.

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Speaker 2: You know yeah, I mean, nobody's gonna mistake him for

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Speaker 2: the eighty five Bears, Dick, But no that all we've

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Speaker 2: ever talked about is just be okay, just don't fed

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Speaker 2: dog poop. If you're not dog poop, then Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: can win you some games if you can get a

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Speaker 2: couple stops each half, or get a turnover here and there.

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Speaker 2: They had ten turnovers. Yeah, in the season leading up

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Speaker 2: to last night and they got five.

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Speaker 19: Hey, who was that new color commentator. He was talking

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Speaker 19: about Joe Burrow. I liked him with Mike Rico.

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Speaker 20: He was talking about did Joe Burrell come back?

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Speaker 19: And I think a lot of my friends were telling me, Hey,

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Speaker 19: I got a story to tell you.

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Speaker 20: I hope this happens. But Dave from Dayton, this my friend.

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Speaker 20: He you know, we're big fit.

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Speaker 19: But I got to see Austin and Tony Pike, but

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Speaker 19: I didn't get to see you. When I asked about you, David,

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Speaker 19: I missed you, but I'd like to see you sometime. Tony,

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Speaker 19: I mean Tony, you know where'd you see them at?

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Speaker 19: Huh oh h Dave of my birthday April fourteenth, Yeah,

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Speaker 19: we went, oh oh, thank you the Lord. Your studio

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Speaker 19: there is beautiful.

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Speaker 20: I heard radio.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I've never seen anything so luxurious. It was like

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Speaker 19: a it's so pretty there ched you know.

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Speaker 21: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, Dick, my key card only works if

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Speaker 2: I'm on the air. If I'm not on the air,

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Speaker 2: they don't let me in the building.

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Speaker 19: I'd like to play for you and Karen sometime.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that Dick.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, hey, God, Bengals, right.

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Speaker 2: There you go, go Bengals. You have a great rest

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Speaker 2: of your weekend. Okay, take care, God bless you you do.

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Speaker 2: Dick and Dayton. Yeah, they don't. Arren can confirm, like

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Speaker 2: I can't come up on a random Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: And say hi, yeah no no, no.

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Speaker 2: I'm only allowed and I've got like a half hour

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Speaker 2: before the show. My key card works, and then like

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Speaker 2: I've got like five minutes after the show to get out.

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Speaker 2: There's no there's no Hey, I'm in the area, let's

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Speaker 2: stop by and see how everybody's doing. That's that's not

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Speaker 2: how that works. I don't blame them. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: you know, I understand. But anyhow, the big thing for

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Speaker 2: me last night, outside of Joe Burrow is what can

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Speaker 2: we take from that defensive performance because there were still issues.

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Speaker 2: They still miss seven tackles. They have a tackling issue.

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Speaker 2: They have a tackling like travesty at times because they're

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Speaker 2: just not good at it. They don't have good tacklers,

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Speaker 2: they don't take good angles. They are often in terrible

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Speaker 2: leverage situations. So yeah, like a lot of times it'll

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Speaker 2: say mistackle on the sheet. But for you know, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to bring down an NFL tight end or Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 2: like you were never gonna You might have slid off

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Speaker 2: the guy, but you were never really in position to

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Speaker 2: make that play because you had a bad angle, because

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Speaker 2: you had bad leverage, because you were slow to the ball.

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Speaker 2: And there was still some of that yesterday, but it

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Speaker 2: felt like there was a lot less. It felt like

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Speaker 2: they were at least creating some havoc at least around

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Speaker 2: the ball in position to make a play. And you know,

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Speaker 2: that's part of the frustrating thing over a lot of

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Speaker 2: these games is that there wasn't somebody in position when

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Speaker 2: an opportunity arose. A perfect example would be late in

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Speaker 2: the game, the uh the tip pass that goes up

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Speaker 2: I think it was Murphy. It was either mur Murphy.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Murphy. The tip paths that goes

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Speaker 2: up in the air and results in the the interception

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Speaker 2: for Carter or Night, sorry Demetrius Night. It felt like

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Speaker 2: a lot of the games the first half of the season,

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Speaker 2: that ball would get tipped, it would go up in

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Speaker 2: the air, and it would just land softly in the

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Speaker 2: middle of the green, grassy field with nobody to make

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Speaker 2: a play, or the the fumble by Zay Flowers where

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Speaker 2: that ball would just bounce out of bounds with nobody

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Speaker 2: there to jump on it. Part of being that type

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Speaker 2: of defense that that Bengals fans want to see and

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Speaker 2: that this team needs is being around the football, not

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Speaker 2: being lost in space running with the guy you're not

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Speaker 2: supposed to be covering.

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Speaker 22: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, you get one of those those

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Speaker 2: ugly dots you know talking about on it a social media.

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Speaker 2: They'll they'll put up the dots, oh yeah, and you'll

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Speaker 2: see this guy running and then they'll be like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that guy should take him. And then the guy that

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Speaker 2: covered running back that's just there to clear space and

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Speaker 2: just go stand over on the sidelines, and the linebacker

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Speaker 2: goes and runs over to that guy, and the tight

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Speaker 2: end breaks free and there's nobody within thirty yards and

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Speaker 2: you look at the dots and you're like, oh boy,

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Speaker 2: I didn't feel like there were a lot of dots

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Speaker 2: plays last night where the Bengals look bad, And the

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Speaker 2: main one was the one Jordan Battle got back and

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Speaker 2: made a play before likely could get into the end zone.

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Speaker 2: And I talked about this earlier with Mark. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: can say the Ravens were sloppy, and they were, but

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Speaker 2: if you go back and look at those plays, those

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Speaker 2: were turnovers that were created by the Bengals. They weren't accidental.

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Speaker 2: Balls were punched out. You had the first interception where

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Speaker 2: Osai got back to the ball and the ball kind

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Speaker 2: of popped up in the air, and next thing you know,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals have recovered the fumble and they're going the

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Speaker 2: other way, and you didn't get a lot of stats

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Speaker 2: for Cedric Johnson other than Cedric Johnson recovered two fumbles.

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Speaker 2: That's the type of guy that this defense has been missing.

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Speaker 2: Somebody that's around the ball, somebody that's in position to

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Speaker 2: make a play when the opportunity arises. Now, obviously there's

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Speaker 2: still a lot of work to be done, because you're

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Speaker 2: not gonna go into Buffalo next Sunday and force four

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Speaker 2: fumbles and recover all of them and have a five

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Speaker 2: turnover day. So you've got to keep building. You've got

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Speaker 2: to continue to get this younger group of guys up

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Speaker 2: to a confidence level where they can go not only

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Speaker 2: from making things really difficult for Lamar Jackson on Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: but then next Sunday make things difficult for Josh Allen

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Speaker 2: because the last three weeks there has absolutely one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent been an upward arc for this defense, and maybe

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Speaker 2: that it hasn't been perfect, maybe that makes them the

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I haven't looked at the numbers over

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Speaker 2: the last three weeks. Maybe that makes them the twenty

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Speaker 2: first or twenty second best defense in the NFL. Do

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Speaker 2: you know how much of an improvement it is from

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Speaker 2: where they were to that if they continue on this trend,

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Speaker 2: they are ruining potentially my favorite storyline of the season,

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Speaker 2: which is I was really hoping for an opportunity to

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Speaker 2: talk a lot about the Bengals and their quest to

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Speaker 2: become the worst defense in the history of the NFL,

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Speaker 2: like we really believe that they could following the Jets

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Speaker 2: and the Bears loss losses. But at the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, there are good things happening. You're starting to

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Speaker 2: see some of these guys play with the type of

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Speaker 2: urgency that they have to play with because a lot

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Speaker 2: of this group is getting to, uh, what's the best

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Speaker 2: way to put it, getting to decision day. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to make a decision on Joseph A'SI at the

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Speaker 2: end of this offseason. Sure they'd like to keep him.

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Speaker 2: They've given him a million chances. He hasn't always lived

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Speaker 2: up to it. You hope this is that light flickering

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Speaker 2: on and he can help get you there. Miles Murphy

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Speaker 2: has felt like a waste of a first round draft

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Speaker 2: pick right What we saw from him yesterday makes it

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Speaker 2: feel like there's potentially a path, a window that's opening

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Speaker 2: for him to show that he was worth his draft pick.

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Speaker 2: We've seen DJ Turner ascend this year. The Dax Hill

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Speaker 2: played pretty well yesterday. Honestly, I'm not smart enough to

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Speaker 2: know what to make of Knight and Carter, the two

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Speaker 2: young linebackers, because at times it makes me feel like

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Speaker 2: I want to stab myself with a hot fork watching

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Speaker 2: them play and watching them get lost in whatever's happening

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Speaker 2: in front of them, picking up the wrong read, going

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Speaker 2: into you know, hitting the wrong hole on a play

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Speaker 2: that gets you know, a jump cut and bounced outside

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Speaker 2: for big yardage, a mistackle like it just feels like

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Speaker 2: with those two guys, we knew they were gonna need

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Speaker 2: a learning curve. We knew that they were gonna need

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Speaker 2: in a billy to ramp up their performance, ramp up

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Speaker 2: their value throughout the season. And while that's not anywhere

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Speaker 2: close to a finished product, we are at least finally

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Speaker 2: being able to watch these two guys start to help

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Speaker 2: contribute and that's a vast improvement over where they were

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Speaker 2: combine for ten tackles. Now, as your two linebackers on

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Speaker 2: the field, you'd probably like that to be a little

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Speaker 2: closer to fifteen. Jordan battle with ten Daxo was six.

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Speaker 2: Those two guys in your secondary got sixteen on the game.

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: So you don't know yet if that you're not ready

869
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: to mark defensive end is solved. We're good at defensive.

870
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: It's still a long way to go. However, it doesn't

871
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: feel like that those guys are gonna have to go

872
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: on the scrap heap and you're gonna have to start

873
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: over trying to find a pass rush. Now they need

874
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: to stack. Gotta start stacking games. To feel like you're

875
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: making that jump, You're you're finding consistency, You're you're finding

876
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: an ability to keep teams out of the end zone.

877
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: For two months, it certainly felt like seven eight times

878
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: out of ten, not only was the other team gonna march,

879
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: you know, between the twenties. They were gonna march between

880
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: the twenties, and they were gonna punt in for a touchdown,

881
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: and Cincinnati was gonna have to answer the number of

882
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: touchdown drives over that first half of the season that

883
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 2: you couldn't even get up and go get a drink

884
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: of water or a frosty beverage from the fridge if

885
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: you waited until the kickoff the ball is in the

886
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: air for the other team. Didn't have time to go

887
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: relieve yourself and get something out of the fridge and

888
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: come back and sit down before there was another commercial

889
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: break because the Bengals were about to receive the kickoff,

890
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: you know, four and a half minutes after whoever the Jets,

891
00:59:52,800 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: the Bears, whoever got the ball, so he stepped forward.

892
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: The problem is in no way, shape or form rectified,

893
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: but at least you feel like looking at it now

894
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: and going, Okay, I might have to squint, I might

895
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: I might have to grab the binoculars, but I feel

896
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: like I can start to see the progress. I can

897
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: start to feel like momentum is shifting. And I thought

898
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: last night when you watched it felt like Al Golden's

899
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: fingerprints were all over it. Now you go to Buffalo,

900
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: then you get Baltimore back in Cincinnati. Let's see if

901
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: it can continue. Phone line's open. What'd you think of

902
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: last night? Talkbacks are coming up next. Get your talk

903
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: back in. Don't make me and tear and sit here

904
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 2: and have to talk to ourselves. We'll do We'll do

905
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 2: fake talkbacks to ourselves if we have to, so it.

906
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 2: Get your crawls in, gets talk backs.

907
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 4: Int talk back from other stations.

908
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we could do that. I'm down with that.

909
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: We'll do. So we're gonna play talkbacks in this next segment.

910
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: How it goes is up to you. Just take a break,

911
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: Sincy three sixty lady, Earn bear Cat Journal backup. All right,

912
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 2: here we go talkback time. Let's get to it.

913
01:01:55,280 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 23: Tarn, sorry y'all to eat my mouth open, but no,

914
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 23: jameis Winston, but I'm eating this w right now.

915
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: Who knew Raven tasted so good?

916
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 23: I gotta tell my people to make sure they cook

917
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 23: Raven again next year because this tastes like victory.

918
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 9: Shout out to the Bengals boy.

919
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 23: This night would be known as the Knight that the

920
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 23: Bengals Saved Thanksgiving or the night that the Bengals saved

921
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 23: their season. I'm telling you right now, I'm so proud

922
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 23: of these boys. Right now, I'm ready to run through

923
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 23: a wall with snot bubbles, and i want one hundred

924
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 23: and thirty dollars on this parlay because of them.

925
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: Who they man, Hey, go get your money now the

926
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: Joe's back, Go get your money.

927
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 18: Repping the city out here this sunny, hot Zona. What up,

928
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 18: chaid my g I heard the chore all right, I

929
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 18: know what it is.

930
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 13: Yo.

931
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 18: The defense last night from the Bengals was excellent. I'll

932
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 18: go to turn up the pressure. I mean, they took

933
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 18: poor angles here and there. They was roasting us last night.

934
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 18: Well while they was roasting, we was roasting the rat birds.

935
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 18: That was excellent. That touchdown in Yoshi Voss was fired.

936
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 18: Joseph Oside was playing like fire last night. We're gonna

937
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 18: be one hundred percent going against Buffalo. Buffalo should be nervous,

938
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 18: they should be scared. Here we come who They.

939
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: Agreed your defense, got a little confidence, got a little

940
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: little pep in their steps. So hopefully it's uh, it's

941
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 2: a sign of things to come. No, I'm not letting

942
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: them off the hook.

943
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 18: I changed my mind, wes Man, come on, EMU, we're

944
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 18: gonna lose it that team like that. You guys looked

945
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 18: at flat. We got a problem. You lose the Xavier.

946
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 18: We got a serious problem here. That's heat already starting

947
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 18: to warm up. And uh, don't look far behind coach Sat.

948
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 18: I'm still talking to you, g Man. Figure way to

949
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 18: be TCU. Don't feature Joe Royor is a problem. Man,

950
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 18: it's irritating as fans. Man win this game and don't

951
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 18: get no crappy bowl dot com type game.

952
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: You dig what I'm saying. There's there's a lot of

953
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: truth in what Ron has to say about the Bearcats

954
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: right now. Like I said, we'll get to that an

955
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: hour three.

956
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 24: West Miller.

957
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 25: Bearcats is the tournament this year.

958
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 10: He's got to be out right as head coach.

959
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 2: Where's the line? That was a low talk? That was

960
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: a very low talk back. Look, as I have said

961
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: all along, like, do I think it's a guarantee that

962
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: if you see miss as the tournament Wes Miller's fired. No?

963
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 2: Do I think it's likely probably. And the reason I

964
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: say that is you don't know until you have the

965
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: whole picture of a season. What that means, well, now

966
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: you have in the in the keep west Miller column,

967
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 2: in the don't keep when move on from west Miller column,

968
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: the move on from west Miller column has a loss

969
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: to Eastern Michigan where you never led for one second,

970
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: Not one second did Cincinnati have a lead. They got

971
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: it to one in the second half and immediately gave

972
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 2: up a seven to zero run to go back down eight.

973
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 2: Toughness was the issue. Last year. They went out and

974
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: recruited what they felt would be a team to combat

975
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 2: the fact that they had a toughness problem. They came

976
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: out flat against NJIT. They were just that much significantly

977
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: better than them that it didn't matter. They came out

978
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 2: flat against Eastern Michigan. It was ten to nine. I

979
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 2: don't know how much you were did you have the

980
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 2: were you working the board?

981
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 11: Tearn?

982
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was running something that I think a chance

983
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 4: to watch it.

984
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 2: They were down ten to nine, and you looked back

985
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 2: up and it was twenty seven to ten, a seventeen

986
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: to one run from Eastern Michigan, and Cincinnati never really

987
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: recovered that. Can't look Louisville goes on a seventeen to

988
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 2: one run, all right, you can understand it. Eastern Michigan.

989
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 2: You let Eastern Michigan go on a seventeen to one run.

990
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: That ain't it.

991
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 26: Man. I hate to be the branch here, but I'm

992
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 26: legit kind of sad seeing Joe Burrow back and playing

993
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 26: well and the defense playing well because at four and eight,

994
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 26: even only two games back, I mean, there's only five

995
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 26: games to go, and it's gonna be gonna be tough

996
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 26: to win the division.

997
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 5: We're gonna look back, though, we're gonna.

998
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 26: Say, what if we have beaten the Jets the Bears

999
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 26: wouldn't have been awesome, We wouldn't wont all the tiebreakers,

1000
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 26: it would have been awesome.

1001
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 11: So we're gonna have a lot off season content that'll

1002
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 11: be fun.

1003
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 2: Look, I get it, like it's very difficult to look

1004
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: at this thing in four and eight and feel like

1005
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 2: there's hope, and especially with what happened to the Jets

1006
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: against the Jets and the Bears, because it should be

1007
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: six and six and you're thinking, if we just finished

1008
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: strong three and two, four and one, even with a

1009
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 2: slip up, like we feel good in this division. So

1010
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 2: I get it. I understand it. I understand the frustration,

1011
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: but let's just let's just see where it goes.

1012
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 27: Well, is that chet is your friendly neighborhood pizza dude? Yeah,

1013
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 27: I agree with you. Dude did look a little rusty

1014
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 27: to start, but luckily he settled down, made the throws

1015
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 27: we needed him to make, and lucky for us, Lamar

1016
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 27: came to the game in playoff four. So yeah, anytime

1017
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 27: that happened, I would bet on Joe every time.

1018
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, Like I saw the playoff Lamar joke,

1019
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's in playoff form. I don't think a lot

1020
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 2: of that was on Lamar, but he definitely wasn't sharp

1021
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: by any stretch of the imagination. And I thought the

1022
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: Bengals sped him up. I thought he looked uncomfortable at times.

1023
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: He was sailing balls a little bit like he did

1024
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: not look like vintage Lamar in any way, shape or form.

1025
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 2: And hey, sometimes winning as a matter of you caught

1026
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 2: the other guy on a bad night. But the Bengals

1027
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 2: played well enough to win, and they caught Lamar on

1028
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 2: a bad night, and that's how you end up winning

1029
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 2: by what eighteen.

1030
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 21: Hey, jeffrom Casey here, I was impressed with our defense yesterday.

1031
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 21: I really like how they're playing and what Golden seems

1032
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 21: to be doing now. I like bringing more guys in

1033
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 21: a line of scrimmage. I like blitzing more. I like

1034
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 21: trying to speed up their offense, their QB and their

1035
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 21: own line. I think we have to do that. We're

1036
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 21: not good enough to sit back and just play. It

1037
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 21: also helps our cornerbacks out a lot. I think also

1038
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 21: we will give up big plays doing that, but we

1039
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 21: expect our offense to be able to match those big

1040
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 21: plays and score points.

1041
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. They were giving up big plays not

1042
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: doing that. They were giving up big plays being passive

1043
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: and sitting back in coverage. If that's already gonna happen,

1044
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 2: If you're already gonna give up big plays no matter

1045
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: what alignment you're in, then you might as well be

1046
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: super aggressive. At least if you're super aggressive, there's a

1047
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 2: chance you have a guy you know deflect to pass

1048
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: up into the air that you intercept. There's a chance

1049
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: that you get a sack fumble that puts you in

1050
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: the two at the two yard line even though you

1051
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: don't score. Like the bend but don't break thing only

1052
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: works if you're keeping the other team from those explosives

1053
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: and teams have been killing the Bengals with explos so

1054
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: be aggressive. I loved it form al Golden yesterday.

1055
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 16: Guys, with how good Joe looked last night. And I

1056
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 16: know he wasn't the sharpest he's ever been, but he

1057
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 16: was rolling out of the pocket, he was pushing off

1058
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 16: that foot the toe. He didn't really seem to be

1059
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 16: too inhibited by it. How good he looked. It really

1060
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 16: makes me wonder if he could have played at Pakoor

1061
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 16: on Sunday against New England. But I guess we'll never know.

1062
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 16: Either way, I'm going to enjoy the win. It's been

1063
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 16: a rough season, so at least enjoy this one. And

1064
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 16: it's still alive, so who knows what happens.

1065
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I think the smart thing to do, the

1066
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: prudent thing to do, was not asked Joe after two

1067
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 2: months off to play Sunday against the Patriots and then

1068
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: come back on Thursday night against the Ravens. I think

1069
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 2: the wise, intelligent thing to do was say, let's give

1070
01:10:56,160 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 2: him four or five more days, let's get him as

1071
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 2: comfortable and as up to speed as we can get him,

1072
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: and then we'll turn him loose, because like, look how

1073
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: rusty he was in that first half. Things could have

1074
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: gotten out of hand against a better team, a team

1075
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 2: like New England, and then you maybe take a step back,

1076
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: You're you're set back a little bit. I think they

1077
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: played it right. I get the uh the onet to

1078
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: always kind of what if if if? What if Joe

1079
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 2: was back last week? But I think the Bengals right

1080
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: made the right move.

1081
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 16: What the hell you guys are light on talkback? So

1082
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 16: I'll leave another one. I got a question for your

1083
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 16: resident Vikings fan over there, would you, in fantasy half

1084
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 16: point PPR start Aaron Jones against Seattle or Tyler Warren

1085
01:11:54,760 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 16: against Houston half point PPR? Aaron Jones, Tyler Warren, what

1086
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 16: do you.

1087
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 4: Got that's for you?

1088
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 2: Terren?

1089
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren?

1090
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 3: Okay, Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones has looked terrible all year.

1091
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 4: Doesn't help.

1092
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 2: Don't have a quarterback either, terrible, terrible, terrible, man, he terrible.

1093
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 3: There's one target Daniel Jones will throw it too, is

1094
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 3: Tyler Warren?

1095
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1096
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 4: It's true.

1097
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 24: What in the world is going on with our basketball

1098
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,520
Speaker 24: team down there in Clifton, Man? Watching that game on Wednesday,

1099
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 24: it was so painful. It was not a good way

1100
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 24: to start off Thanksgiving. It was a terrible way. I've

1101
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 24: been a Wes Miller guy for so many years, and

1102
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 24: I still am. I love the guy. I want him

1103
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 24: to succeed so much, so bad. I've been defending him

1104
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 24: for so many years. But Chad, I don't know how

1105
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 24: long I can do it. Convince me right now why

1106
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 24: I should still believe in Wes Miller as the guy.

1107
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 2: I don't have anything to convince you right now. I

1108
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: think that would be disingenuous on my part. I don't

1109
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: work for his PR firm. Contrary to popular beliefs, sometime

1110
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: what I saw was a team that thought that they

1111
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: could just turn it on and turn it off whenever necessary.

1112
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 2: I saw a team that again, and this is like three.

1113
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: That was like the third time this year in seven

1114
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 2: games that they came out and just didn't have an

1115
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 2: extra bounce in their step. They didn't have like look

1116
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 2: no further than how they started against Louisville. They played

1117
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: like their hair was on fire, and they got out

1118
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: to a seventeen to six lead. And it wasn't just

1119
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: because they were making shots, it was because they were defending.

1120
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: It was because they were forcing Louisville into tough shots.

1121
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 2: Long rebounds, early offense, and then you look at even

1122
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 2: in Jit and then into Eastern Michigan, who just happened

1123
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 2: to have some more dudes that could put up a fight.

1124
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: And I thought in the second half, I thought Buck

1125
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,759
Speaker 2: Harris and Dade Thomas really tried to spark that team,

1126
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: and I don't think they responded. I think everybody else

1127
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 2: just watched those two like normally, when your energy givers,

1128
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: when your high energy guys come in and start doing

1129
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: big things, everybody rallies around it. And I didn't feel

1130
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: like they did that, and that's why that lead. They

1131
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 2: Thomas and Harris worked their butts off to get that

1132
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: lead down to one, but nobody followed their lead. That's

1133
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 2: a problem they've got to look like the first eight

1134
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 2: minutes against Louisville whenever they come out. There are gonna

1135
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: be nights you don't make shots, that's fine, but there

1136
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: can't be nights where you're just, eh, we're gonna let

1137
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 2: this team that's, you know, across the board, like four

1138
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: inches shorter than us at every position out rebound us

1139
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 2: for an entire game. That can't happen. The effort is

1140
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: why they don't look right. When you play hard and

1141
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: your energy is up and you make the other team uncomfortable,

1142
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,799
Speaker 2: good things happen as a result when you sit back

1143
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 2: and half that game felt like Eastern Michigan was just

1144
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: standing in a two three zone. They weren't trying to

1145
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 2: pressure anything. They just said, we're just gonna stand here,

1146
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: and we don't think you guys can play around us.

1147
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: That's embarrassing. We'll get to more of that hour three,

1148
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 2: but I have nothing to convince you right now.

1149
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 4: All right, last three.

1150
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 28: Okay, Hey Tarn, Hey Chad, Jeff and New Richmond. I

1151
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 28: hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving. Sounds like you did.

1152
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 28: Talking about the Bengals, Glad they won last night, and

1153
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 28: you know, the defense did play well. And but the

1154
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 28: other part about that is, you know, you can't be

1155
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 28: called an opportunistic defense unless you take advantage of the opportunities.

1156
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 28: The Bengals did last night. So kudos to them.

1157
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, I agree again. I go back to I

1158
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: think the Bengals forced those opportunities. I did not get

1159
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 2: the vibe that the Ravens were just making unforced errors

1160
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: that allowed the Bengals chances they didn't deserve. I thought

1161
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: the Bengals forced those turnovers. I thought the Bengals were

1162
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: the aggressor. One of my new favorite terms. I used

1163
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: to use it a long time ago. I've brought it back.

1164
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 2: The Bengals dictated the terms of engagement. The fight was

1165
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 2: on the Bengals turf, even though they were in Baltimore,

1166
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 2: even though much maligned Bengals defense, the Angles were the aggressor.

1167
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: And when you're the aggressor, good things tend to happen.

1168
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 28: Chad, it's Jeff, Now the basketball.

1169
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: I want to do this anymore.

1170
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,560
Speaker 28: We do not have time for a twenty year rebuild.

1171
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 28: This is year five of the twenty year rebuild. Not acceptable,

1172
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 28: not even close. And now you have the football team

1173
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 28: that is going to finish seven and six. You don't

1174
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 28: know at what point is that acceptable. I will drink

1175
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 28: nine hundred thousand dollars worth of since you like to

1176
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 28: get John Cunningham.

1177
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 2: Out, I mean John Cunningham's buyouts, I think like three

1178
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 2: and a half four million dollars, So you have to

1179
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: do a lot more drinking than that.

1180
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 29: Jeff, Hey, I was really happy to see the Bengals

1181
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 29: one last night. I always want to see him win,

1182
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 29: and that makes me feel good, but I'm scared it's

1183
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 29: going to be like repeat repeat of last year, where

1184
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 29: we just bring everybody back and say, oh, it was

1185
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 29: just bad luck, and we'll pick somewhere in the middle

1186
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 29: rounds and we'll get another traits guy. We have lots

1187
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 29: of traits projects. I would like to see us get

1188
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 29: a good draft pick and get someone like Caleb Downs,

1189
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 29: who's been compared to Troy Palmolo. I just that's what

1190
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 29: scares me most.

1191
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 2: It's fair. How many times have we talked about this

1192
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 2: franchise struggles if they're not drafting in the top twenty

1193
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 2: percent of a draft, And that's terrifying because if you

1194
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 2: look at the franchises that are consistently among the NFL's best,

1195
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 2: there's very little variants because they've learned how to draft

1196
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: twenty seventh, twenty eighth, thirtieth. The Bengals have never figured

1197
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: that out. So there's a couple of years up and

1198
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 2: then there's a big dip, and then they restock with

1199
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 2: the one or two drafts where they're they're near the top,

1200
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 2: and then they swing back up and it just it's

1201
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: a constant, self fulfilling prophecy because they've never learned how

1202
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 2: to draft, even from the middle to the back. If

1203
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 2: it's not an elite pick, they've struggled. So I get it.

1204
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 2: I completely get it, but I don't know what the

1205
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 2: answer is because you're not sitting Joe Burrow the final

1206
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 2: five six games of a season when he's healthy. You're

1207
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: paying him over a quarter of a billion dollars. You're

1208
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: not paying him that much money to not work if

1209
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 2: he can work. So you run him out there, you

1210
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 2: see how it goes, and more importantly, you find out

1211
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: what exactly you have on defense. Is Osiah guy you

1212
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 2: can bring back? Is Miles Murphy gonna start finally figuring

1213
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,879
Speaker 2: it out as you hit on something with Cedric Johnson.

1214
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: You need every snap you can for Night and Carter

1215
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: to try to figure this out. So I completely understand

1216
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: what you're saying and the frustration of they don't do

1217
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 2: well drafting, so why should I trust them with another

1218
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 2: mid level draft pick, mid level mid mid mid pack

1219
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 2: first round draft pick. Completely understandable. I get the angst,

1220
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: but I don't know what the alternative is because you're

1221
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 2: not tanking with Joe Burrow healthy, and now you've got

1222
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: five games left in the season.

1223
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 4: Got it. That is it?

1224
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: All right? We did all right? Did all right? That

1225
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: wasn't a full talkback array, but it wasn't bad. Nice

1226
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: job that wee can Yeah, we didn't have to go

1227
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 2: to other stations. Can we get one from another station?

1228
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: Can you pull up one from another station and just

1229
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 2: and just see what it's like.

1230
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 4: I'm afraid too, honestly.

1231
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I've heard some just for fun, and they're not

1232
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 3: nice over there?

1233
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 2: You want to you want to screen one while we're

1234
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 2: at break and maybe we'll play it when we come back.

1235
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 4: I knew that.

1236
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a break. Final segment of the second

1237
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: hour coming up right after this SINZ thirty sixty right

1238
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 2: eron Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. I know that hiring can

1239
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 2: be checked.

1240
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 7: This is football in the Natti, brought to you by

1241
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 7: butt Light on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of

1242
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Bengals.

1243
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 5: All around the world.

1244
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 11: The same.

1245
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 2: So we've been all.

1246
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: Around the world.

1247
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters too? Is that what this was?

1248
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1249
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 2: How is it? Should we do it or no? In

1250
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,480
Speaker 2: the place as I want other talkbacks?

1251
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 22: Hey man, just to thought the getting your seat assignment

1252
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 22: before you go to the airport. That's okay if you

1253
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 22: want to pay for it. But I don't know most

1254
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 22: airlines American for sure, if you want a seat assignment,

1255
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 22: you got to pay like usually like twenty five bucks

1256
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 22: for a basic seat.

1257
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 5: So thank you.

1258
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 2: I mean okay with that, right, But I don't want

1259
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 2: to just randomly be placed somewhere on a plane. I'm

1260
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 2: usually traveling with somebody.

1261
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 3: I literally just did that. Well it was by myself,

1262
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 3: and I got randomly placed on the plane.

1263
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was by myself, I don't care, Like

1264
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: I'll talk to anybody, Tarran, you know that legitimately, I

1265
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,520
Speaker 2: will talk to anyone.

1266
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 4: Not me. I was in between them of a mother

1267
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 4: and a child.

1268
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 2: Like in the middle. Yes, you didn't switch.

1269
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 4: No, well, I asked, but she didn't want to.

1270
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,799
Speaker 2: She didn't want She wanted that kid a seat away

1271
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 2: to howl.

1272
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 4: Was a kid. Uh he had to be about six

1273
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 4: or seven.

1274
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 2: And she didn't want to sit next to it. No,

1275
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? That's ballsy, That is ballsy. I

1276
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: don't want my kid. No, sir, you sit here and

1277
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: Billy is gonna sit on the other side of you.

1278
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 2: Was the kid needy?

1279
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 11: Was he like?

1280
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 13: Mom my? Mom?

1281
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 2: The whole time.

1282
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 3: No, no, no, he was on his tablet the entire flight,

1283
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 3: only about two and a half hour flights. Okay, tablet.

1284
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 3: She was more concerned than him. He was like, Mom,

1285
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 3: leave me alone. I know all this stuff I've flown before.

1286
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, maybe the kid was like, that kid's gonna

1287
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 2: be seeking like a you know, like you can like

1288
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: get a divorce from your parents at like fourteen. Yeah,

1289
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: that kid's gonna be like going to a judge, like

1290
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: can I get out of here? That's outstanding? The kid requested.

1291
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: It is like, can we have snoop sit in between us?

1292
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 4: Mom? Did he talk to you only when he wanted

1293
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 4: to snack.

1294
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 11: You?

1295
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:28,480
Speaker 4: Kind of like the buffer?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna do you have snacks? Like what

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Speaker 2: kind of snacks were you giving him?

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01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 4: No? No, she like cheese, it's and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Was there a tax? Was there a tearan tax? Like

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01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 2: you ever give me some snacks too? Huh?

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Speaker 4: No? No, no, he have my headphone was for the for

1302
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:43,839
Speaker 4: the most.

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Speaker 2: Part, Okay, that's a weird situation. It's a weird situation.

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01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: Would have been even weirder if it was like a

1305
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 2: husband and wife and they were like, no, you sit here, sir,

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Speaker 2: all right, let's take break. Two hours in the books,

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Speaker 2: One more to go. Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 7: You've been listening to Football in the Natti on ESPN

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Speaker 7: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy show, brought to

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Speaker 1: Today on ESPN fifteen thirty, The official home of the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Our number three Bengals pep rally coming up at three

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01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 2: o'clock on location where they at today, Tarren.

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Speaker 1: Don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm out o worst.

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Speaker 2: They'll be coming up three to six, so make sure

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Speaker 2: you stay tuned for that. They'll be excited over sure,

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Speaker 2: Let's get this show on the road. Thank you for

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01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 2: choosing me for your Black Friday entertainment. Maybe you're driving

1328
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 2: around getting some shopping done. I tend to avoid them

1329
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:49,839
Speaker 2: all like the plague on most days, so especially Black Friday.

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01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: How are you on Christmas shopping?

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Speaker 11: Tern?

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01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 4: I have just started yet.

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01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: I've got a couple of things I need to more.

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01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 2: I do most of them. I'm an online guy now,

1335
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, they they'll bring it right to your house.

1336
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: I bought a I bought a hoodie for myself yesterday.

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01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Is that bad?

1338
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Speaker 11: Like?

1339
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 2: You know? I I I've gotten into that that groove

1340
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: being a being a single dad now that Uh, not

1341
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 2: a lot of people buy me presents, so I gotta

1342
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 2: buy me presents.

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01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with that.

1344
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm perfectly I'm perfectly fine with it. I know what

1345
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 2: I want, so I'll just buy myself presence, wrap them

1346
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 2: and put them under the tree.

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01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 5: I do.

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01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 2: I have a girlfriend now, though, so I guess I'll

1349
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 2: get I'll get something. I I heard r Aran what

1350
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 2: do you where are you?

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01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 13: Like?

1352
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 2: What is your lance? Was talking about on Twitter that

1353
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 2: he made a panini with all the Thanksgiving signs or

1354
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: like all the Thanksgiving food on like some sour dough

1355
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 2: panini press, Like what's your preferred method of Thanksgiving?

1356
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 4: Leftovers? Just treated, just treated like Thanksgiving two point zero,

1357
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 4: all on one plate.

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01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: All on one plate. I saw something. I think it

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01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 2: was one of the barstool guys. You know what his

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01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: mom does on Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 13: Taran.

1362
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 2: She buys a bunch of like like like pre made

1363
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 2: pie cruss and everybody gets a Thanksgiving pie of leftovers

1364
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: before they leave the house. I guess kind of like

1365
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: a Thanksgiving pot pie.

1366
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 4: No, that's doing too much.

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01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: And then she put well, the mom does it. You

1368
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: don't have to do anything. She just hands it to

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01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 2: you on your way out the door, with the turkey,

1370
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,759
Speaker 2: the stuffing, the mashed potatoes, everything, She puts it inside

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01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 2: the pie and then she covers it up with like

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01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 2: a pie crust topping, like a you know. And then

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01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: you take it home and all you got to do

1374
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Speaker 2: is put it in the oven, and you get like

1375
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 2: two three days of leftover Thanksgiving dinner and like pot

1376
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 2: pie form, you're out on that. Yes, I guess sounds

1377
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Speaker 2: pretty good.

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Speaker 3: So you're putting all the ingredients, Oh everything you had

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Speaker 3: into a pot pie?

1380
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Speaker 4: Is a single pot pie?

1381
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a like a normal sized pie.

1382
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, one of the things about things

1383
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,839
Speaker 3: give I want to taste each individual thing by itself.

1384
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 2: Now you just said you put it all on one plate. Yes,

1385
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 2: but I can steal.

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Speaker 4: I can steal pick and chees like, okay, here, I

1387
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 4: want some just yams.

1388
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Speaker 19: Here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want some mac and cheese.

1390
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 3: Now okay, I don't want my greens and my mac

1391
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 3: and cheese and then everything all smushed up together in

1392
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 3: the pot pie. No okay, and then you probably like

1393
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 3: the gravy on talk about No.

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Speaker 2: I mean I still I still prefer that. What I

1395
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: did one year is I took like the stuffing and

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01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 2: you get it to the point like where it's wet

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01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 2: before you put it in the oven and bake it.

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01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 2: And instead you put it on a waffle iron and

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Speaker 2: you make a stuffing waffle and then you put the

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving food on top of the stuffing waffle. Would you

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01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: do that? You can still control what you eat and

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01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 2: when that's just got a stuffing waffle.

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Speaker 4: Underneath it, just give me a plate.

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01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 2: And I'm just trying to be creative, Tea, it's trying

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Speaker 2: to be creative.

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Speaker 4: No need to be creative.

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Speaker 3: Let's just eat, eat, eat all the food, get it

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Speaker 3: out the way before it goes to waste.

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Speaker 2: I because I had to get home. I didn't get

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01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: a plate leftovers today this year. Plus the turkey was

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01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 2: my uncle's turkey was gone. There was a small container

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Speaker 2: that I think like my uncle and my aunt and

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Speaker 2: uncle were taking home for themselves, and I felt bad.

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01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 2: I almost wanted to be like, you know, Tearing wants

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Speaker 2: some of that, and we'll probably talk about it on

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01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 2: the radio tomorrow, like how good it was if he

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01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 2: gets to eat some, I could have gilted her into

1418
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 2: like a little bit. But I felt bad that guy said,

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01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 2: I'll get you some of Christmas. I'm here the day

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01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 2: after Christmas. I assume you'll be here with me and

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01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 2: we'll to be determined. Okay, some good college football on

1422
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 2: right now. There was a brawl in the Egg Bowl.

1423
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 2: Ole Miss up twenty one to ten on Mississippi State,

1424
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:53,720
Speaker 2: So Ole Miss about to put themselves in position to

1425
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: be in the college football playoff, maybe without a head coach.

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01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: There seems to be some minimum building towards LSU and

1427
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin. Florida seems to maybe be falling back in

1428
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: that sweepstakes as it's currently constructed, So tomorrow might be

1429
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:19,640
Speaker 2: action day on Lane Kiffin, whether he stays at Ole

1430
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 2: Miss or goes to LSU, which, boy, if you're LSU

1431
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 2: and you fire Brian Kelly with fifty million dollars on

1432
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 2: his contract and you can't get Lane Kiffin, where do

1433
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 2: they go from there? And Utah in a little bit

1434
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 2: of trouble right now, Tarren, Utah trying to hang around.

1435
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 2: They're at thirteen. They need some help. They're probably not

1436
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 2: going to play in the Big twelve title game, but

1437
01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 2: they're right there on the cusp at thirteen. They're not

1438
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 2: doing themselves any favors. They are midway through the third quarter.

1439
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 2: They're trailing fourteen to ten at Kansas, Kansas trying to

1440
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:18,839
Speaker 2: get Bowl eligible, Nebraska fall or losing. They're at halftime,

1441
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 2: they're down twenty four to sixteen at Iowa, or they're

1442
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 2: in Nebraska. Iowa's up twenty four to sixteen, second half,

1443
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:26,839
Speaker 2: just getting started.

1444
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 3: I have a question if Dylan Royola really like all that.

1445
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 3: It's rumors he's probably going to transfer portal. He's okay, Oh,

1446
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 3: he won't be like the number one prospect in the portal.

1447
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 2: I don't think I mean, I don't think so. I

1448
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 2: think he is. I think he's really good on this

1449
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 2: shortter intermediate stuff. I don't think he pushes the ball

1450
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 2: down the field all that. Well, he's accurate, and if

1451
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 2: you want a guy that's going to run like a

1452
01:33:55,400 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 2: quick offense, accurate, quick, get the ball out, you know,

1453
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 2: long sustained drives, moving the chains, I think he's okay.

1454
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 2: But if you're a top team, like if you're looking

1455
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 2: to go win a national championship, can you do that

1456
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 2: without a guy that can push the ball down the field?

1457
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 4: Probably not, I.

1458
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 2: Don't think so. Later today, Georgia and Georgia Tech, and

1459
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 2: then the big one tonight Texas A and M Texas.

1460
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 2: That's seven thirty on ABC, and Arizona Arizona State also tonight,

1461
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 2: two ranked teams. That one comes up at nine o'clock

1462
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 2: on Fox. Do we have Zach from last night? I'll

1463
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 2: let you get to it. I know it's in there somewhere,

1464
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,600
Speaker 2: But Zach Taylor got to be feeling at least a

1465
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 2: little bit better. When you're the head coach and you

1466
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 2: can look out and Joe Burrow is now slinging the

1467
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 2: pill around for your team, it certainly makes you look

1468
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 2: like a better coach. Let's hear from Zach last night? This,

1469
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 2: zactly today, Oh today, all right, Well, let's hear from

1470
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 2: Zach today.

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Speaker 25: Great, nothing's new, Yeah, nothing's new. Feels good to get

1472
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 25: a road divisional win. And you know, fun for our

1473
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 25: guys on prime time. You get to see him having

1474
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 25: fun after the game. That was just good. You know,

1475
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 25: they've been putting.

1476
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 11: In work.

1477
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 25: All season long for for moments like this and to

1478
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 25: get one and then get to you know, take a

1479
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 25: deep breath and enjoy it and relax and have fun

1480
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 25: and and you know that that's important. And now we'll

1481
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 25: you know, take a couple of days here to get

1482
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 25: our legs back underneath us and get ready to go

1483
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 25: for Buffalo.

1484
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 5: What do you burned best yesterday? I just thought he

1485
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 5: played football. You know.

1486
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 25: That was just good to see and you could feel

1487
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 25: him get into a rhythm there especially, you know, some

1488
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 25: moments moments the first half and then second half, he

1489
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 25: just felt like he was really really on it and

1490
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 25: just the moments where you saw him you know, kind

1491
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 25: of break contain. It was good protection and guys getting

1492
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 25: watched inside and he kind of extends to the right.

1493
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 25: Made some big plays. One to Jamar, you know, that

1494
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 25: got us the first down. That was kind of kind

1495
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 25: of a moment for me that I feel like I've

1496
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 25: seen from them so many times. And the Tanner touchdown,

1497
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 25: you know when he bought time to the right and

1498
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 25: kind of put it in the only spot he could

1499
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 25: possibly give it to him, you know, back shoulder. Tanner

1500
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 25: made a great catch, but really a throw. It was

1501
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 25: about the only spot you could put it. So I

1502
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,759
Speaker 25: just think, you know, he found a really good rhythm,

1503
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 25: and it's good to check that box and play the

1504
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 25: game and now and get back to business.

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01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 28: Forty Last year too, is really you can parallel of

1506
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 28: how you staying in the process like he did.

1507
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 16: Last year, and there's always hope that, yeah, if you

1508
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 16: use those things from last year being kind of a lesser.

1509
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:42,960
Speaker 11: Any time of morn.

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01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 25: I mean, we have been in this exact same situation,

1511
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 25: not something we really planned to play into. We just

1512
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 25: truly have to take it one game at a time.

1513
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 25: But I think our guys understand, like they I've never

1514
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 25: felt like I have to have to pick them up,

1515
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 25: like guys are straggling and not giving their best. I

1516
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 25: haven't felt that for once, and and I think the

1517
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 25: proof is in the pudding right there. You know, when

1518
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 25: you when you travel in a short week and get

1519
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 25: the result that that the guys put on the field.

1520
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:11,720
Speaker 25: I think that shows what these guys are made of.

1521
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 25: And we have high expectations moving forward, and you just

1522
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 25: have to take a one game at a time.

1523
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 3: Coach, I just wanted to have to solid tape and

1524
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:23,640
Speaker 3: how Baltimore played you and I just wanted to I

1525
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 3: thought that was maybe one of the best teams or

1526
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:26,640
Speaker 3: offensive lines played along with.

1527
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 5: The Road in the division. I mean, it just seemed

1528
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 5: like a kind of.

1529
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 25: Yeah, I think they've they've gained great chemistry, you know,

1530
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 25: particularly over the last several several games, they've protected well,

1531
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 25: you know, the one sack we had was really as

1532
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 25: much as anything, it was a corner blitz that was,

1533
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 25: you know, formationally for me, part of the problem hard

1534
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 25: to see. So you know, really they protected all games, didn't.

1535
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 5: Go up a sack.

1536
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 25: In my mind, the team that's going to bring a

1537
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 25: lot of different looks and so there was a lot

1538
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 25: of problem solving that had to take place there on

1539
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 25: some of those known passing situations that I thought our

1540
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 25: coaches did a great job with the plan, the players

1541
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 25: understood the plan, they executed it, we got some big

1542
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 25: plays out of it. But to your point, I think

1543
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 25: the line has done some really good things for us.

1544
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 25: Some of those runs. You know that we're running the

1545
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 25: ball at the end of the game. Everyone in the

1546
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 25: world knows we're running, so it's it's pretty hairy in there,

1547
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:26,640
Speaker 25: tough looks, and they still found ways to create some

1548
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 25: movement and give us opportunities. And really proud of the

1549
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 25: way that those guys have stepped up for us.

1550
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,599
Speaker 3: I mean, that might be one of the best format

1551
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 3: looking guys have ever had, really.

1552
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 25: I mean, I liked the one we had there in

1553
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 25: twenty one, you know, finished with the samaj run. Yeah,

1554
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 25: that was a good one too, So yeah, I'm not

1555
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 25: gonna put it up there as the top one, but

1556
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 25: you know, those are tough situations where you gotta find

1557
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 25: yardage and and you know, they did a good job

1558
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:51,080
Speaker 25: of that.

1559
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 10: They seemed like it was I mean, I know, you

1560
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 10: said the zero blitzed I guess on the most four

1561
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 10: three times on the coin.

1562
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, said they didn't zoo blitz that for that, but

1563
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 5: it seems like people, wow, that's more low red zone.

1564
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 25: You know, we weren't really in the low red zone

1565
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 25: after that, So that's a little bit unique for him,

1566
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 25: not unique for them, but that's in the in the

1567
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 25: low red. That's kind of what you have to expect

1568
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 25: from them, and it can be hairy. And we've obviously

1569
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 25: had issues in the past right there in that same spot,

1570
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 25: same in zone, so we've always got to look to

1571
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 25: find ways to do a better job there. But you know,

1572
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 25: it's I thought the touchdown of Yoshi, you know, is

1573
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,600
Speaker 25: a pressure look that we talked about a lot, and

1574
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 25: guys stepped up there and executed perfectly. Smag you did

1575
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 25: a great job skinning across. Joe sat there with excellent

1576
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 25: poise and saw the coverage and made the throw to Yoshi.

1577
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:40,559
Speaker 15: A lot of big plays by the defense obviously, Well

1578
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:41,879
Speaker 15: you go back and watch the film.

1579
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 5: The players were in battle many that knocked the ball.

1580
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 15: Where does that kind of stack up with all those

1581
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 15: players in that game based on Yeah, I'm a game,

1582
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 15: they would have been fourteen three if they.

1583
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 25: Got down there and then just again and it's huge,

1584
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 25: that's huge, and it's just you know, that's that's tremendous

1585
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 25: effort by by Jeordan on that play and just to

1586
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 25: not give up. And well, I think there was three

1587
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 25: guys almost involved there. I know GD was one of them.

1588
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 25: If I remember correctly, of all trying to get in

1589
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 25: there and slow him down and give an opportunity knock

1590
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,799
Speaker 25: the ball out, and those plays we show every Friday,

1591
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 25: you know, we show our defense finishing those plays, usually

1592
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 25: with possession of the ball like like Gino had last

1593
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 25: week through the end zone and scoring and and showing

1594
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 25: how devastating that can be if that happens to you.

1595
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:28,479
Speaker 25: So that's not happened to you, and our guys kind

1596
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 25: of buying into that and making sure they can find

1597
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,280
Speaker 25: a different way to experience that moment where we knocked

1598
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 25: the ball out instead of scoring. And so I uh,

1599
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 25: that was a huge play, huge momentum change. You're right,

1600
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 25: the game could maybe go in a different direction if

1601
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 25: they had that momentum at home, and so that was

1602
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 25: that's a big play for us.

1603
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 15: I say, Kimber, which was the Thursday night game in

1604
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 15: nineteen seventeen game you guys had the down at the

1605
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 15: goal line, you got ripped up the red zone plan

1606
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 15: after that that was earlier, I think it was a

1607
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 15: week five. But anything off of the red well this

1608
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 15: in this game that you think could lead to taking

1609
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 15: a different look and maybe we guys.

1610
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 25: Do know they're always tough, they're they're they're always present,

1611
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 25: difficult down there. And we scoured the tape and and

1612
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 25: come up with what we are planing we really like

1613
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 25: and it's just difficult, you know. And and so it

1614
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 25: didn't come our away on that one. And we'll keep

1615
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 25: working to to be good in the We've been really

1616
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 25: good in the low reds on this year, really good.

1617
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 25: And so we're not going to change anything from what

1618
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 25: we're doing. But obviously, you know, I was talking game

1619
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 25: the game. Different defenses present different challenges, and they got

1620
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 25: us on that series, and and uh, you know, two

1621
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,000
Speaker 25: weeks from now, we'll play them again and give another

1622
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 25: opportunity with the night like the defense had yesterday.

1623
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 15: And then you know, closing the game out like you did,

1624
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 15: you know in the games that you lost to talk

1625
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 15: about just finding a way to close the game out,

1626
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 15: just get a win.

1627
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 2: How much can that move me to build.

1628
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 9: Off of a night like that as you guys try

1629
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 9: to stack these wins onto the rest.

1630
01:41:59,160 --> 01:41:59,439
Speaker 13: Of the year.

1631
01:41:59,680 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 11: It can.

1632
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 5: Obviously, we're gonna have to put the work in.

1633
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 25: We haven't played Buffalo, it feels like in a while,

1634
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 25: so there's a lot of work that guys are gonna

1635
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,839
Speaker 25: have to buy into next week. But I thought finishing

1636
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 25: the game on something that we've just been preaching since

1637
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 25: Al walked in the door here, you know, forcing these fumbles,

1638
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 25: and so for JD and DJ to finish the game

1639
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:21,960
Speaker 25: the way they did on defense this series, before their

1640
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 25: final three plays or whatever it was, I thought it

1641
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 25: was just a big moment for us. It's something we've

1642
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 25: been preaching, We've been working like crazy. We've said it's

1643
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:30,840
Speaker 25: gonna come. You just never know when that damn's gonna break.

1644
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 25: And so to finish the turnover day like that with

1645
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 25: the guy punching the ball out, ripping the ball out,

1646
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 25: DJ picking it up, I thought that was a big

1647
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 25: moment for us that we got to capitalize on. The

1648
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 25: guys have now seen it. Okay, this this stuff's paying

1649
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 25: off for us, and it's fun when it happens and

1650
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 25: it can change the games, and they've been buying in,

1651
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,600
Speaker 25: but now to see the payoff I think gives a

1652
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 25: lot of confidence to them and our team moving forward.

1653
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 2: There you go, Zach Taylor from from just a little

1654
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 2: bit ago down at a pay course stadium as the

1655
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 2: Bengals will enjoy a couple of days off before getting

1656
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 2: back at it in preparation for Buffalo. He didn't. He

1657
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 2: brought up something that I forgot to mention. The throaty

1658
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 2: Yoshivash doesn't happen if samaj Pteran doesn't sell uh sell

1659
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:24,759
Speaker 2: out to to get a hand on get a body

1660
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:29,799
Speaker 2: on a blitzer from the from the blind side. That's winning.

1661
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 2: That's the toughness plays. You know a guy that it

1662
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:38,120
Speaker 2: looked like he was going to get past him and

1663
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 2: he was going to have a free path at Burrow

1664
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:45,880
Speaker 2: and p Ran just lunged back into the picture and

1665
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 2: gets enough on him to send his momentum past the quarterback.

1666
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 2: Joe stepped up, fired a deep bomb and had a

1667
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 2: perfect throw. And you don't get a perfect throw then

1668
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 2: if the pressure gets home. So one of those winning plays.

1669
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 2: We talk about winning plays a lot, and it's not

1670
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 2: always just the throw in the catch. It's the stuff

1671
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 2: that makes the throw in the catch possible. Just take

1672
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 2: a break, I will. I'll get into some Bearcats goodness

1673
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 2: coming up next. Phone lines are open through the hour.

1674
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 2: We are guest free all day on Football Frenzy Friday

1675
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 2: right here on SUNCY three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1676
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, keep it's got a lot of power.

1677
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 2: It makes me feel like.

1678
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:57,520
Speaker 4: It makes me feel like, Okay.

1679
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 2: I have had a chance to listen to some of

1680
01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 2: that Daylights haaren Oh buddy, I mean it's up there

1681
01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:10,799
Speaker 2: in the day Law discography, so good.

1682
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 4: Next time you'll happen I have a rotation.

1683
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 2: You're doing some editing, yes, uh, the one with black thought,

1684
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 2: which we can't. I mean, I don't even know if

1685
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to edit that one.

1686
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 4: Enough was I'm go on there.

1687
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna like, I mean, they're phenomenal, but I'm

1688
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 3: just not about to try.

1689
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 2: To well, they say a word that I'm not allowed

1690
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 2: to say, and you're not allowed to play on the

1691
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 2: radio like seventy three times. So it's that one you're

1692
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 2: not I don't think you're gonna be able to clean

1693
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,720
Speaker 2: that one up, but you know what needs cleaned up

1694
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 2: arn the offense for Wes Miller's Cincinnati Bearcats. We are

1695
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 2: seven games in, so I don't don't like to freak out, like,

1696
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 2: you know, three four games in and you know you

1697
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 2: have a bad couple games and the numbers are are

1698
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 2: disproportionately bad. We're seven games in on a thirty one

1699
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 2: game season, like you're starting to get a pretty clear picture.

1700
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 2: It's like twenty percent of the season. Maybe a little

1701
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 2: less than that, but like you're getting to a point

1702
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 2: where the picture is starting to get a little more clear.

1703
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 2: Cincinnati on Ken Palms two hundred and fourteen on offense,

1704
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 2: and that's weighted with stuff like numbers fixed in from

1705
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 2: last year still in the formula. If you go to

1706
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 2: bart Torvik, which is another really good analytics site, they

1707
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 2: take the weights out, so it's just on what you

1708
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 2: have done in this season. They're in the three hundreds

1709
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 2: on offense through seven games. It wasn't that there was

1710
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 2: supposed to be a bigger focus on offense, a focus

1711
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 2: on scoring and running good offense and putting guys in

1712
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 2: position to make shots. And they're in the three hundreds.

1713
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,640
Speaker 2: They just lost a game to Eastern Michigan where they

1714
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 2: scored fifty six points, and it wasn't like, here's the

1715
01:47:52,479 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 2: biggest problem with that game. Normally, and look, especially in

1716
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, there are going to be some nights

1717
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 2: where you've got a new team and you just don't

1718
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 2: play well and they're struggling to have any connectivity and

1719
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 2: shots aren't falling, and the other team plays great and

1720
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:24,639
Speaker 2: you lose. That happens. That wasn't the case on Wednesday night.

1721
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 2: Just wasn't the case. Eastern Michigan was seven of twenty

1722
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 2: one from three thirty three percent. Like that's okay, But

1723
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,799
Speaker 2: it wasn't. Like they played a team that hit fifty

1724
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 2: plus percent of their threes and just went crazy scoring

1725
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,280
Speaker 2: three points at a time, and they made twelve, thirteen,

1726
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 2: fourteen threes and it was just too much for you

1727
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 2: to overcome. They won the rebounding battle. Cincinnati's defense, which

1728
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:04,720
Speaker 2: is supposed to be Look, Bobba Miller's out, Jalen Celestine's out.

1729
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,280
Speaker 2: We know Jalen Haynes is out and has been out.

1730
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 2: So you're dealing with some injuries, but some injuries at

1731
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 2: one position should not torpedo any chance of success. In comparison,

1732
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:31,400
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan shot fifty two percent from two. Cincinnati shot

1733
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 2: forty four percent from two. Eastern Michigan shot thirty three

1734
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 2: percent from three. Cincinnati shot twenty four percent from three.

1735
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan was better at the free throw line nineteen

1736
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 2: of twenty two to eleven of fourteen. They out rebounded Cincinnati.

1737
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 2: Cincinnati only had one more assist. Eastern Michigan turned the

1738
01:49:53,800 --> 01:50:03,600
Speaker 2: ball over seventeen times, seventeen times, twenty five percent of

1739
01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 2: their possessions. Eastern Michigan turned it over, and they still

1740
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 2: never trailed. Cincinnati never led by a point, and actually

1741
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 2: I don't think the game was tied outside of zero

1742
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 2: to zero because Eastern Michigan scored first. It was ten

1743
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 2: to nine at one point, and then Eastern Michigan went

1744
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 2: on a seventeen to one run to go up twenty

1745
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 2: seven to ten in the first half. They had a

1746
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 2: big lead at halftime, twenty one to ten or wait,

1747
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 2: thirty six to twenty three. Sorry, thirteen point lead at halftime,

1748
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:58,360
Speaker 2: and then Cincinnati, knowing that they had to come out

1749
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 2: and really turn it up, down thirteen to start the

1750
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 2: second half, scored four points in the opening segment. The

1751
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 2: first ten minutes of the second half, Cincinnati scored six.

1752
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 2: They turned it on over the final ten minutes finally

1753
01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 2: and scored twenty seven points. But they scored ten points,

1754
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 2: thirteen points, and six points through their opening thirty minutes

1755
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 2: of that game. It broken down in ten minute segments

1756
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 2: and if Wes Miller is going. They have to get

1757
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 2: this team in the tournament. It's his fifth year here,

1758
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 2: it's his third year in the Big Twelve. They went

1759
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 2: the way of complete roster overhaul. They've got some talented pieces.

1760
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 2: You've got one of the better front courts and Baba

1761
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 2: Miller and Mustapha Cham in the league. And you let

1762
01:51:55,520 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan, who after the win, saw a significant bump

1763
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 2: in their Ken Pom. They were in the like the

1764
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 2: mid two hundreds, two fifty something to two sixty something.

1765
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 2: They're not one ninety seven. Cincinnati was in the upper forties,

1766
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 2: like forty three. I think now they're seventy one in

1767
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 2: ken Pom because their offense is two one hundred and fourteenth.

1768
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 2: They're sixth in ken Pom on defense, sixth two hundred

1769
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 2: and fourteen on offense. But all of that aside. Here's

1770
01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:40,920
Speaker 2: I think the biggest problem for this fan base is

1771
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 2: that this is now. I don't think this was an

1772
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 2: issue the first three years. I thought Wes Miller's teams

1773
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 2: that the last two years in the American the first

1774
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:52,440
Speaker 2: year in the Big Twelve, I thought they played really hard.

1775
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 2: They might not have had the talent, they might not

1776
01:52:57,160 --> 01:53:01,760
Speaker 2: have been good enough on offense, but Cincinnati fans will

1777
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 2: cut you some slack if your teams play really hard.

1778
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 2: Last year's team did not play hard. It's one of

1779
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 2: the main things we talked about all season. Team does

1780
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 2: not play inspiring basketball. It's not a fun brand of

1781
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 2: basketball to watch. Guess what. You go back to New

1782
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 2: Jersey in jit New Jersey Institute of Technology on Monday.

1783
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 2: They came out of that game in that game flat

1784
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 2: and they were just significantly more talented in that game,

1785
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,679
Speaker 2: and they were able to pull away. But the signs

1786
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 2: were there. Unfortunately, the frustrating part is what we saw

1787
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 2: against Louisville, a team that looked like it played really hard,

1788
01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 2: a team that looked like it really cared. Louisville was better,

1789
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 2: but Cincinnati lost by ten in a back and forth

1790
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 2: game to a top ten team. Okay, you've got my attention.

1791
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 2: But then they don't play well for the first twelve

1792
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes against NJI. Kudos to them for turning it around,

1793
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 2: but they again didn't flip the switch early against Eastern Michigan,

1794
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:31,439
Speaker 2: and Eastern Michigan put a seventeen to one run on

1795
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 2: them and Cincinnati could never get back to where they

1796
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 2: need to be. They never could get back to taking

1797
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 2: control of the game. It's poor offensive numbers. They're two

1798
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,880
Speaker 2: to h nine in effective field goal percentage, they're two

1799
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 2: forty five in turnover percentage, they're two seventy four in

1800
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 2: offensive rebound rate, two seventy four and three point percentage made,

1801
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 2: three point twenty one in free throw percentage made. It's

1802
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 2: not good enough. And some of it is as simple

1803
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 2: as effort. Some of it is as simple as your

1804
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 2: guys are going out there against these by teams and

1805
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 2: just expecting to roll the ball out and win. Guess what,

1806
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 2: those guys have scholarship players too, And more often than not,

1807
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 2: you're you're gonna be able to play poorly and still

1808
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 2: win those games. But every once in a while you

1809
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 2: can't figure it out, you can't get up off the mat,

1810
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 2: and you lose. And now you've got the Crosstown shoot

1811
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:56,440
Speaker 2: Out a week away. You've got Georgia, You've got Cleansing

1812
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 2: Xavier eighty nine, and Ken Pom Cincinnati seventy one. For

1813
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 2: the first time since these teams were constructed, Ken Palm

1814
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 2: has this as a loss for Cincinnati. They have Xavier

1815
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 2: seventy three, Cincinnati seventy one. Given where these two teams started,

1816
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 2: Cincinnati can't win that game Friday, the heat is going

1817
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 2: to get smoldering on West Miller's seat. Then you got

1818
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 2: a week off, You go to Atlanta, you play Georgia.

1819
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 2: You're predicted to lose that game eighty to seventy three.

1820
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 2: And then the following week you've got Clemson in Greenville.

1821
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 2: You're predicted to lose that game seventy four to sixty seven.

1822
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 2: You have a twenty eight percent chance to be Georgia,

1823
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 2: a twenty six percent chance to be Clemson. If you

1824
01:56:51,920 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 2: lose those three games, there's a potential that you're sitting

1825
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 2: at what eight and five going into the Big twelve.

1826
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:08,920
Speaker 2: That's if you don't lose another by game, and the

1827
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 2: first game on deck January third is Houston. It is

1828
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 2: not at a point where it's too late for this

1829
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 2: team to figure it out. But what's the old saying,

1830
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 2: it's getting late early. It's getting late early for this group.

1831
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 2: They have a very short time to figure it out

1832
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 2: or it's going to be a long winter at the

1833
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:43,280
Speaker 2: Third Arena. Just take a break more after this. Since

1834
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 2: any's ESPN fifteen thirty, this is since e thirty to sixty,

1835
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:48,800
Speaker 2: a service of Penn Station GAML he in.

1836
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 7: The Natty, brought to you in part by Postman Law

1837
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:57,000
Speaker 7: and Vice Skyline Chile on ESPN fifteen thirty to the

1838
01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 7: official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1839
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 2: All Right, we are short on time, so I got

1840
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes here. Let's let's go to the phones.

1841
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 2: We'll get to Dave and reading.

1842
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 8: Dave.

1843
01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:15,680
Speaker 2: What's going on, Hey, Jed, how's it going?

1844
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:19,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, pretty good? I guess great, great up there last night. Uh,

1845
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 13: I just want to say, I'm a huge Bengal fan,

1846
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 13: and you see, especially basketball fan, but I like the

1847
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:29,360
Speaker 13: football program too. I was just furious Wednesday night should

1848
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 13: be I I'll be honest with you. I didn't listen

1849
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,040
Speaker 13: to the game because I wanted to hear the Roundtable

1850
01:58:36,240 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 13: rock the end of Lance and turned it off at

1851
01:58:38,480 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 13: the end. I thought they were maybe like winning by

1852
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 13: five or somebody told about a tone. But uh, first

1853
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:47,280
Speaker 13: I want to go on records saying I love coach

1854
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 13: Miller's passion and uh, and then in his dedication, I

1855
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 13: think that's his whole life. He's just so dedicated game.

1856
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 13: But that being a side I've gone to records saying,

1857
01:58:57,880 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 13: I've got a lot of golf for it. But I

1858
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 13: just I just don't think he's a good bench coach.

1859
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 13: And I I already met coach Brannon twice, don't really

1860
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 13: you know, know him well. But I just thought he

1861
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 13: got a roll deal here. I thought he was a

1862
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 13: very good best coach and we had some stinkers. There

1863
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 13: were some stinkers when he was coaching there Kylie last night.

1864
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 13: But it just always seemed to me when it was

1865
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 13: a close game, you see, he was always pulling it out.

1866
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 13: I was always listening to radio because back then it

1867
01:59:25,880 --> 01:59:28,000
Speaker 13: was never on TV like a lot of times now,

1868
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 13: and uh, it's just always somebody pulled it out. And

1869
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 13: it don't seem that way with me. But I was

1870
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 13: okay with for one thing. I said, Well, I thought

1871
01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:39,160
Speaker 13: he was gonna be a lot better recruiter, and I

1872
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 13: think he probably would have been better than coach Brannon.

1873
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,000
Speaker 13: But it's not working. Chad. I just want to know

1874
01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 13: your closest situation, what's your feelings on U on this?

1875
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 11: And before before you.

1876
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 13: Answer, do you want to say one thing you just

1877
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:56,000
Speaker 13: sitting for about the Bengals. It is true about about

1878
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 13: the black pier I made. It was saying it was great,

1879
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 13: just the a chip he made, but Joseph of a

1880
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:03,120
Speaker 13: pocket just off.

1881
02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wouldn't have been able to step up in

1882
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 2: the pocket if he Eryan didn't get the chick. Yeah.

1883
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:12,920
Speaker 2: I mean that that's a winning play. The problem is,

1884
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:16,280
Speaker 2: you see, doesn't make enough winning plays like they look.

1885
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 2: I've known John Brandon since nineteen ninety five. We went

1886
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:24,360
Speaker 2: to college together. I've known John forever. It just didn't

1887
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 2: work here, and for a lot of reasons, COVID and

1888
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 2: he had some stuff going on in his personal life

1889
02:00:30,680 --> 02:00:33,120
Speaker 2: and there was kind of a disconnect that they never

1890
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,800
Speaker 2: really were able to overcome. That's in the past. It

1891
02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:38,680
Speaker 2: is what it is. It's in the past. It didn't

1892
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 2: work out right less, his teams don't play good enough offense,

1893
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 2: and the last two teams at least, what we've seen

1894
02:00:50,360 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 2: through seven games of this team is that their effort

1895
02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:59,400
Speaker 2: isn't there, not on a night to night consistent Cincinnati

1896
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 2: expectation like that's what this The foundation of this basketball

1897
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 2: program is playing hard, and his teams have not paid

1898
02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:09,440
Speaker 2: hard enough the past two years.

1899
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:13,080
Speaker 13: They haven't They've never gotten They never get a top

1900
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 13: recruiting hut Tops.

1901
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 2: They always please hugs, got a lot of top recruits,

1902
02:01:20,160 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 2: but it seems still always played hard as hell. That

1903
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:26,160
Speaker 2: was non effort, was non negotiable.

1904
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 11: Okay, let me ask you this real quick, Dave.

1905
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 2: I gotta go. I'm no real quick, real quick.

1906
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:35,800
Speaker 13: Okay, I'm signed the old man Alan here. But it

1907
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 13: just seems like maybe he's afraid you. Coach Branton had

1908
02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 13: trouble with guys jumping ship and stuff. With the way

1909
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 13: things are today with kids, maybe you can't be as

1910
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 13: hard on them as like.

1911
02:01:47,520 --> 02:01:51,120
Speaker 2: That's I mean, it's part of it, it's part of it.

1912
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:53,960
Speaker 2: But look, tom Izzo still works like that. There are

1913
02:01:54,000 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 2: guys out there that Danny Hurley still works like that.

1914
02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:00,600
Speaker 2: You know, Natoates is hard on his team and they're

1915
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:03,640
Speaker 2: really good. Like and thanks. I appreciate the call, Dave.

1916
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 2: You can be hard on your team and still win

1917
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 2: like get that that.

1918
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:08,720
Speaker 5: I know.

1919
02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:11,440
Speaker 2: I don't buy that. One more break, we'll get to

1920
02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:14,720
Speaker 2: mister Ace. Mister Ace is gonna be our moagger for

1921
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:16,240
Speaker 2: quick hits more after this.

1922
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:20,600
Speaker 7: Since he three sixty, you've been listening to football in

1923
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 7: the NATI. Brought to you by Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered

1924
02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 7: by Tope Sheldon on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home

1925
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 7: of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1926
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 1: W ckwise see three sixty quick hits on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1927
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:42,280
Speaker 2: All right, final segment of the day before turning it

1928
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 2: over to the Bengals pep rally And since Mo is

1929
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 2: not in, uh, we'll go to my guy, mister Ace

1930
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 2: as my guest for quick hits. Mister A's we got

1931
02:02:52,360 --> 02:02:54,280
Speaker 2: about two and a half minutes. What do you got

1932
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 2: for me.

1933
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Speaker 11: Four and a half minutes? I guess some quick hits? Man,

1934
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Speaker 11: Let me see, let me see. I think I feel

1935
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Speaker 11: as though witted waking up for the first time in

1936
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Speaker 11: many years of the after Thanksgiving Day hosting hangover of

1937
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Speaker 11: having to clean up more stuff because we didn't host

1938
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Speaker 11: so I could stop, drop and roll with excitement. As

1939
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Speaker 11: a result of that, number two quick hit would be

1940
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Speaker 11: I did not get up this morning at the crack

1941
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Speaker 11: of done trying to make it out to any type

1942
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Speaker 11: of sale. I pretty much did most of my stuff.

1943
02:03:25,080 --> 02:03:28,360
Speaker 11: I even helped my mom for the first time ever

1944
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Speaker 11: in history. Mama Ace, that's right, Grandmama Ace actually ordered

1945
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Speaker 11: some stuff on line, so I was very happy about that.

1946
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Speaker 11: She placed two orders on the line. She was worried

1947
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Speaker 11: because something didn't ship complete, and she was like, I

1948
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Speaker 11: don't think that's the right amount. So she had questions,

1949
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Speaker 11: but she got through it. She got through it.

1950
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Speaker 2: There we go.

1951
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Speaker 11: But I must say, I guess if we're gonna hit

1952
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Speaker 11: on some stuff, still fire Zach Taylor, and I do

1953
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Speaker 11: hope after a win on Saturday. Yes, Fire, is that Taylor?

1954
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Speaker 11: He's a bum win. Yes, he's a bum like Austin Elmore.

1955
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:13,120
Speaker 11: Like Austin Elmore, he continuously snatches the seat from the

1956
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Speaker 11: jobs of victory. Oh fight, a win, despight a win

1957
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Speaker 11: if you could not win and you had a quarterback

1958
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Speaker 11: putting up the numbers that you had without Joe Burrow,

1959
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Speaker 11: and you only win because Joe Burrow was there, and

1960
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 11: he got the team to rally around and hopefully maybe

1961
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Speaker 11: run off of all these other games. And because our

1962
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 11: team is so cheap, they will keep him around. I mean, hey, fire, Taylor,

1963
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Speaker 11: here are my other thing. Fire. You see his football

1964
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Speaker 11: coach hire Tony Pike, and hopefully that will do a

1965
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Speaker 11: whole lot of great. So actually, I don't even want

1966
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Speaker 11: to see you see his coach get fired.

1967
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Speaker 2: I want him to.

1968
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Speaker 11: Get another job. Just get him, get to get out

1969
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Speaker 11: of town, because he's doing what he's done every year.

1970
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Speaker 11: He wins a few games and he starts stinking it

1971
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Speaker 11: up towards the end of the season.

1972
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Speaker 2: Well, the problem has been teams have been at the

1973
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Speaker 2: end of the season and he hasn't proven he can

1974
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Speaker 2: beat the good teams. That part got to prove you

1975
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Speaker 2: can beat the good teams.

1976
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Speaker 11: What if he surplises and wins a game this week,

1977
02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:12,800
Speaker 11: team may possibly have somebody to be like, let's take

1978
02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:15,120
Speaker 11: a chance on his clown man, get him out of

1979
02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:18,200
Speaker 11: time to get piked in as coach.

1980
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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, mister Ace. Glad you had a good Thanksgiving,

1981
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Speaker 2: and uh have a good weekend as well, Tarn We

1982
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Speaker 2: did it. We got through the day after Thanksgiving. Nobody

1983
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:32,440
Speaker 2: took a nap and we we made it.

1984
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Speaker 4: We'll still got three more hours.

1985
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can kind of nap through that one. Right, No,

1986
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Speaker 2: good luck to you. I'm going home. That's gonna do it.

1987
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Speaker 2: We will see you on the flip side. Hope everybody

1988
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Speaker 2: has a great weekend. Happy to hear you had a

1989
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Speaker 2: great Thanksgiving and let's do it. Since he thirty sixty, right,

1990
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Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty six