1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS he cost 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: in his new radio. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: I'd like to follow up here for a little bit 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: during this hour. I think doctor Derne was very clear, 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: which is why I think she's such a great and 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: special guest. But I would like to hear from some 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: of you. We haven't talked about this whole issue, but 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: I think there's a number of cross currents that we're 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: dealing with here. Everybody finds themselves in a different age bracket. 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you could be twenty five, or you could 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: be eighty five any or ninety five, anywhere in between. 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: By the way, I did want to take just a 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: moment tonight, and I should have done this earlier, but 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: I had an email earlier this week from a lovely 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: woman who I'm just going to identify her by her 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: last name. Her name is Kim, and she asked me 17 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: her mom turns ninety nine years of age tomorrow. Now, 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: if her mom is listening, or as Kim is listening, 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: they know of whom I speak. And if you happen 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: to have a friend who turns ninety nine years of 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: age tomorrow on October third, you'll know of whom I speak. 22 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: As well, but I'm told by Kim again, whose mom 23 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: celebrates a double nine birthday, And at that point in time, 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: I think it's okay to tell people's ages, because to 25 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: get to that point in time is really a wonderful accomplishment. 26 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: And I just want to wish Kim's mom a many 27 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: happy birthday and many many more. Kim tells me that 28 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: her mom listens to this program every night, and I 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: hope that she might be listening now. Your daughter sent 30 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: me a lovely note. I did respond to your daughter, 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: and I was trying to tell her exactly when I 32 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: would do it, just to make sure that you hear it. 33 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: If you do, and you want to call in and 34 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 2: let me know that your mom heard it, that would 35 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: be great. If someone and I'm sure people who listen 36 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: to this audience, if you have a friend named Kim 37 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: whose mom turns ninety nine tomorrow, well then you have 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: to know that. You have to know that who we're 39 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: talking about. And I just want to say congratulations to 40 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: Kim's mom, thank you for your loyalty to this program. 41 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: Don't you ever stop listening. I expect you're going to 42 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: stay with me however long I continue in this position 43 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: and just thanks, thank you very much, and thanks to 44 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: everyone everyone who listens to this program, but particularly right 45 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: now to Kim's mom. If you want tomorrow, you can 46 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: call Rob and he can probably get you a PDF. 47 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: And in case your mom missed this, or you can 48 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: give me a call and any you can call Rob 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: now and get my direct number. I did send you 50 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 2: an email back, but you must have missed him, all right, 51 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: So I want to follow on with doctor Jerome, and 52 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: I'm not looking to open up a controversy here, but 53 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: I must be honest with you. I did not realize 54 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: that IRSV shots are required. I don't know. I'd have 55 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: to call my doctor's office and find out if I 56 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: had an RSV shot a year ago. Apparently based upon 57 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: the symptoms that I described to doctor Doroan Doran, I 58 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: must have had iris V last winter. It was tough. 59 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: I actually took a sick day. I think that was 60 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: my first sick day in five years. I don't take 61 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: many sick days because I've been blessed with really good health. 62 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, but I would love to 63 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: know are you taking all the shots? Are you taking 64 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: a COVID shot, a flu shot, and an RSV shot again. 65 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: I assume, depending upon your age, you probably have an 66 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: inclination one way or the other. And I would also 67 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: like to know what success you've had. Look, I took 68 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: all my flu shots right up through last year. I 69 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: don't think I took one in the spring this year. Now, 70 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: based upon listening to doctor Deron tonight, I have to 71 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: reconsider whether I want to do a COVID shot. And 72 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: part of that is COVID seems to have disappeared from 73 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: the headlines. How many of you remember when COVID was 74 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: bursting onto the scene, and those of us in Massachusetts, 75 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Charlie Baker had a horrible system. It crashed every time 76 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: people were holding on for hours and then being cut off. 77 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: They were just trying to get an appointment. And I'm 78 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: talking now February and March of twenty twenty. It was 79 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: a horrific way to bring in the decade of the 80 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenties. But there was so much confusion and as 81 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: I mentioned, and I think doctor Doron agreed with me, 82 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: when these vaccines as they were called that a vaccine 83 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: first became readily available again March April or so of 84 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, we were kind of led to believe by 85 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: the medical authorities at the time, including doctor Fauci. And 86 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to politicize it here, but you get 87 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: the shot and you're all set. They kind of sold 88 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: it similarlyly to how you would think of as a 89 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: polio shot. I mean, most of us received a polio 90 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: shot when we were in what the first grade, six 91 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 2: years of age. I think it was a requirement to 92 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 2: attend school, public school, and I attended a Catholic grammar school. 93 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: But I remember getting the polio shot. I remember how 94 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: when they did the polio shot, they left this sort 95 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: of little mark on your arm for a while until 96 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: you kind of grew out of the mark and it 97 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: ended polio. I know that polio has made some sort 98 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: of a comeback. You read stories here and there. I 99 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: get it. I understand that. But I think they over 100 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: sold the COVID shots, that. 101 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: It was. 102 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: A shot that kind of like the flu shot. It 103 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: wasn't a vaccine. The word vaccine carried sort of a 104 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: guarantee if you will, like a polio vaccine, and we 105 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: went through the hall, the whole process where they said, hey, 106 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: oh yeah, you might get it, but you won't be hospitalized, 107 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: it won't be a serious case. Then we found out 108 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: people in hospitals, and then they said, well, you may 109 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: go to a hospital and in a rare serious case, 110 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 2: but you're not going to die because you had the 111 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: the COVID vaccine. Well, there were people died, and I 112 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: think that that was the bad messaging from public health 113 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: back in the day of twenty twenty. And I think 114 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: that did influence a lot of people, and there were 115 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: some people who suffered some medical consequences. So anyway, the 116 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: point that I'd like to find out from you is 117 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: what are you doing this fall? Have you weaned yourself 118 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: off the vaccines? I think that probably is a mistake. 119 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: But if you have, that's fine. Have you stopped taking 120 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 2: the vaccines? Have you done well without the vaccines? Let's 121 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: just talk about this a little bit. I'm renowed. I'm thinking, now, Gee, 122 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: I got to check with my doc's office and see 123 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: if I had an RSV shot a year ago, and 124 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,239 Speaker 2: what they would advise on getting a second RSV shot, 125 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: and if I didn't get one, should I get one? 126 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: Now I've gotten my flu shot, which I've had for 127 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: years and years and years, and I thought I got 128 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: the flu last year, but now I'm led to believe 129 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: maybe it was RSV. I remember having sleeping and trying 130 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: to sleep when I had this, and it almost sounded 131 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: as if there was someone inside my chest cavity talking 132 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: to me like the voice it was. It was a 133 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: different sort of sounding wheeze. And I did get last winter. 134 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: It was in December, and I may not have actually 135 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: taken a sick day. It might have been during my 136 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 2: Christmas New Year's break and I felt miserable for a 137 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: couple of days, worse than when I got COVID. I 138 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: mean when I Cooke took covid, got took covid. And again, 139 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: I will tell you this, if you do get COVID, 140 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: there's this this series of medication. I'm not a doctor, 141 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: but it worked for me, and that was to get 142 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: what they call packskillovid paxlovid uh. And the only side 143 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: effect of that was that it left this steely taste 144 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: in your mouth. You thought that you had had an 145 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: automobile bumper for breakfast. And yeah, So anyway, I'm just 146 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: going to open up the lines here and let's talk 147 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: a little bit about it. A follow up on with 148 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: doctor Deroon. I'd love to know what your thoughts are. Obviously, 149 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: I know there are some who don't trust public health sources, 150 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: but I do think that whether it's a Republican president 151 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: or a Democratic president, the public health professionals in this 152 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: country are doing their best because it's in their interest too, 153 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: as well as in the interest of public health generally, 154 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: to make sure that we have the best information that 155 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: is available at any given time. And I do remember, 156 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: I remember back in the day when we were dying 157 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: to get COVID shots. It was like, give me one, 158 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: give me two. It was like I want my COVID shots, 159 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: and you couldn't get them. And finally they figured out 160 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: the delivery system and it worked and you got an invitation. 161 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: Maybe some of you don't remember that, but you would 162 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: be invited to show up at a certain time at 163 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: a certain place where COVID shots were being disseminated, and 164 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: you would darn happy to get them, and you felt 165 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: at that point, well, I'm safe. Well, the shots did 166 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: not assure you of your safety. It probably made many 167 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: of us a lot less susceptible to COVID. So let 168 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: me open up the lines. I'm tired of talking about this. 169 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: Six one, seven two five, four ten. I'm not tired 170 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: about talking about it with you, but I've told you, 171 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: I've bared my story to you six months and I 172 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: want to hear yours. And what are you doing this fall? 173 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: I think the one thing that we learned last hour 174 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: is if you are of a certain age, get a 175 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: shingle shot. Is that is a miserable condition to have 176 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: to live through. Are you doing IRSV in addition to flu? 177 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: Are you doing flu? Are you not doing flu? Give 178 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: us a call six one seven, two, five, four ten 179 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty. My 180 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 2: name is Dan Ray. Will be back, get this conversation 181 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 2: going and we will talk about some other subjects as 182 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: the evening goes on. Back on night Side right after 183 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: these messages. 184 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: If you're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ 185 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: Boston's news radio. 186 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: On the CDC website here, CDC by dot gov slash 187 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: vaccines and they it's a pretty confusing website. I must 188 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 2: tell you. They give you an opportunity to you can 189 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: pick a letter in the alphabet immunizations will bring it. 190 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: Vaccines by age, so it's all there. You can find it. 191 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: It's not easy, but you feel free. You can find it. 192 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 2: It's as simple. It's as it's not as simple as that, 193 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: but it's it's all there. I'm sure the doctors have 194 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: easy access to it and you can find it just 195 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: CDC dot gov and then immunizations of vaccines and you'll 196 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: get vaccines my age. Again, I am troubled when they 197 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: use the word vaccines. I think it should be something 198 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: less definitive and say shots. But that's that's something that 199 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: I'll have to deal with. Let me get to phones 200 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 2: see what people have to say. I'm going to go 201 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: to Paul up in Ontario. Hey, Paul, thank you for 202 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: calling in great dear your voice, thank. 203 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: You, thank you for taking my call. Don and congratulations 204 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: on the start of your nineteenth year. 205 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, it's been a pretty good ride, 206 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: that's for sure. So yeah, I'm trying to get what 207 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: are they saying up in Canada about what are your 208 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: medical I don't know you have something I'm sure similar 209 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: to the CDC. 210 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 4: We do. 211 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 3: So we actually my wife's receiving treatments now for melanoma. 212 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: She's going through immunotherapy which has very good results long term. 213 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: But we asked her oncologist if she would be okay 214 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: to get the flu shot, the COVID shot, and the 215 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: RSV shot. He said yes to all three. However, he 216 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: did say that he recommends that they be taken at 217 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: different times. Here at the they often will the pharmacies 218 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: here will often encourage you to get the flu shot 219 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: and the COVID shot at the same time. And just 220 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: from anectoical evidence or what I've heard from people is 221 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: the ones that seem to have the bad reactions are 222 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: the ones that get both at the same time. So 223 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: the doctor recommended a one to two week gap between 224 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: the flu shot and the COVID shot. 225 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I've heard doctors down here. I must 226 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: say this that one of the things that bothers me. 227 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: And I don't know if there's anyone out there who 228 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: fails the same way, But what I want walk into 229 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: a pharmacy like a CVS, and I'm not just picking CVS. 230 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: It could be a Walmart as well, or I walk 231 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: into a grocery store, whether it's again a Shaws, and 232 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how many different grocery stores they have 233 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: their pharmacies inside their stores, and they're telling you, you know, 234 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: you get your COVID shot, get you this shot and 235 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: you'll get the ten dollars off your shopping or whatever. 236 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: They are making money. I mean, the the pharmacies. They're 237 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: getting paid by the government for these shots, and I'm 238 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: convinced of that, and also the grocery stores. And it's 239 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: just I now get my shots at you know, I'll 240 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: get it at a CVS. I'll talk to the pharmacist 241 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: though before I get the shot, and I'll talk to 242 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: the pharmacist that shaws. But it just seems to me 243 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: a little weird that by getting because you get a 244 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: shot at the store, you get a coupon. Is anyone 245 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: else out there struck by that as being almost. 246 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: Like a loss of leader, Yes you. 247 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: If you yeah right, yeah, you know, twenty percent off 248 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: or whatever up to a certain amount. It's like they 249 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: phrase it in such a way that you it. But 250 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: it just seems to me that it should be simply 251 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: the shot is here, that they should not be allowed 252 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: to induce people because I don't know, I mean, I 253 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: don't know if there are people out there getting multiple shots, 254 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: which which is also unhealthy, by the way, that's a 255 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: problem too. 256 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, I can say that the food shot and 257 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: the COVID shot are covered by our government. Here the 258 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: RSV shot, the whoever gets the shot has to pay 259 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: out a pocket two hundred and sixty six dollars. The 260 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: other thing about the the RSV shot, like I'm at 261 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: an age where I should be having it. I'm seventy, 262 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: I've had eight COVID shots, and I've had the flu 263 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: shot for I don't know how many consecutive years. I 264 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: don't want to overwhelm my immune system. That's one of 265 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: the concerns I have. So I think will probably my 266 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: wife and I will probably just go with the COVID 267 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: and the flu shot and forego the RSV shot. The 268 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: other thing is the RSV vaccination is relatively new, so 269 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: I like it to be around a little longer to 270 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: have a better understanding of how effective it is. I 271 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: guess I'm going with the old meat Loaf song. Two 272 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: out of three ain't bad. 273 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you that. Yeah. So again, Canada 274 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: is very It's interesting that Canada, with his public health 275 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: system and as high taxes, that they would make you 276 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: pay for RSV shots. I I don't know, to be 277 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: really honest with you, if I think the COVID shots 278 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: are covered, because I get my COVID shot. Uh. Well, 279 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: I've got my COVID shot yet, but I got my 280 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: flu shot uh at a at a pharmacy. Uh. And 281 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: I didn't have to pay anything. And you know, I 282 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: don't know. It's very confusing, and I just think there's something. 283 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of it, to be 284 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: quite honest with you. But we're gonna go with with 285 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: the two, the COVID and the flu shots, and we'll 286 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: do it probably in the next like the next week 287 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: one shot and maybe two weeks after that the other. 288 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I I remember one year I 289 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: did that. I did a COVID booster and a flu 290 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: shot and I was advised, you know, separate by at 291 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: least a week, and I had no adverse reaction to either. 292 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: But that's what was being recommended at the time. But 293 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: sometimes the recommendations change. Paul up my break. Great to 294 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: hear your voice. Don't be a stranger. Thank you so. 295 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: Much, great, thank you for taking my call. I have 296 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: a great evening. 297 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: Yes you too. I'd like to continue with this, so 298 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: I'd love to hear from you. Have thrown out a 299 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: number of my reactions. I'd love to know if when 300 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,239 Speaker 2: you walk into your supermarket, depending upon which it is, 301 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: and I think some offer these shots, some don't. If 302 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: you walk into a pharmacy, are you more comfortable in 303 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: the pharmacy or do you say, look no, I'm just 304 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 2: going to take it go to my doctor's office. I mean, 305 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: you wouldn't go to this. You wouldn't go to the 306 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: pharmacy or to the grocery store to get a physical Why? 307 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: And again, I've done it. It's convenient. I will admit that. 308 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: I'd love to get your reaction to that. And I 309 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: know that there are some people who still believe that 310 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: these shots are being pushed on us, but I don't know. 311 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: It's it just feels different right now in this fall 312 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: than it did certainly in the late winter of twenty twenty, 313 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: no question about that. And I'd love to get your 314 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: reaction and your experience six one, seven, two, ten thirty 315 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: or six seven thirty. I think this is a great topic. 316 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: I appreciate what doctor Drone said. All of her advice 317 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: is critical to She's really good. So please don't listen 318 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: to my advice. Don't listen to my any callers advice. 319 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: Those are experiences. She provides advice and I think that 320 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: words have meaning in words with meaning matter. Okay six one, seven, two, five, 321 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. 322 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: Coming right back on Nightside. 323 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WZ Boston's 324 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: news Radio. 325 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: Okay, we're following on our conversation with doctor Shaivra Drone. 326 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 2: Just getting your reaction. I mean, we're not we're not expert. 327 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: She is, and I would follow her guidance, but I'd 328 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: also be talking to my doctor, because your doctor knows 329 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: you best. Let's go next to Bill in Danvers. Hey, Bill, 330 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: welcome next one night Side. 331 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, Dan, I actually have my physical luck coming up 332 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 4: on Tuesday. 333 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: Excellent. So you got to do that every year too, 334 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: by the. 335 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 4: Way, Yeah, well yeah, plus, I mean but I pay 336 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: insurance rates, you know, and I want to make sure 337 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: I maximize everything. But so a few years ago I 338 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: asked them about the pneumonia shot, you know, and you're 339 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: annoying them. They said, you gotta be closer to the sixties. 340 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: I said, fine, well, you know whatever, a you know, 341 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: I'm you know, getting closer to the fifty one here. 342 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 4: So I went in, Chuck did the pre check in 343 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: on patient gateway for the Tuesday thing. And then you 344 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 4: know they want to double check every day and make 345 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 4: sure you still got the same insurance or you have insurance, 346 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 4: and it says they're now recommending and said the other 347 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: thing the pneumonia shot. So I investigated and I start 348 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: looking into it, and they dropped the standard by ten years. 349 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: I didn't even know there was a pneumonia shot. I mean, 350 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 2: I'm learning something tonight. Is that the same as the 351 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: rs V shot? 352 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, but it says pneumonia on the on 353 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: the shot. It was on the thing, and I knew 354 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: a few guys years ago they got it and I 355 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 4: asked about it. They didn't correct me and say irs 356 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 4: V or. 357 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: But I thought that pneumonia was when your lungs filled 358 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 2: up with water. 359 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: And well, I guess this is a shot for it 360 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: that it pumps you with something. I don't know what 361 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: it does or whatever, but it has to stop. 362 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that has to stop. I'm not 363 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: a dodger. I wish talked to Jerome was here, But 364 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: I mean, I assume that pneumonia is caused by flu 365 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: or rs V or some sort of an infection that 366 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 2: you have. 367 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, but yeah, so you know, but being 368 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 4: in New England and I'm in that out of things and 369 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: I sort of yeah, I usually get run down more 370 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: than I am now I've sort of built myself up 371 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 4: at the gym SA. I'm on the gym bike right 372 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: now talking to you nice and uh, you know I 373 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: usually do about eight ten miles on the bike. So 374 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 4: but you know, uh, you know now they load it. 375 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 4: So you know, you get cynical with a lot of 376 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 4: stuff that we've seen. You know, did they lower it 377 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 4: because they sorry? I think for it or you know, 378 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 4: do maybe you know the stock crisis a low low dan, 379 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: you know you think about that? 380 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: You know, No, I understand, And that's how that's that's 381 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: how we we think. What do you think when you 382 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: walk into a grocery store or you walk into a pharmacy, 383 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: uh where you where you normally buy toothpaste and deroo 384 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: deodorant And I know they have a they have you 385 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: can pick up your prescription drugs there. 386 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: But oh yeah, I go to Walgreens. I see it 387 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: all the time, the sign get the shots. We got 388 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: a promo and we got this. 389 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, if the shots are being paid 390 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: by by the government, which they are. It would seem 391 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: to me that part of that payment, I'm sure there's 392 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 2: a cut that goes to the pharmacy. I don't know 393 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: what it is, but they're not doing it for their health. 394 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: No, you know, there's a business model. Whatever the margins 395 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 4: are they feel that give a rebate that way, did 396 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: they get you to move another product in the store. Yeah, 397 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: and then if they move more product, right, of course, 398 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 4: they get a better They're doing more volume, so they 399 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: get a better rate on what the selling, so that 400 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 4: helps on that end. 401 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: Well. No, but but also my look, my understanding is 402 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: that every shot that they administer, there's a it's being paid. 403 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: The government is paying them. I think it's like one 404 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars or you know, I think that's 405 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: what the number is. Okay, that's that. That's a that's 406 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: a nice little you know addition, you know to people 407 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: who are coming in buying the odorant and candy, uh 408 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: and they stop buy for a for a for at shot. 409 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's well worth it to the far, 410 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's bad. 411 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to criticize. 412 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: The pharmacies to the grocery store. There's just something about it. 413 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: Don't give me a ten dollar coupon. Don't induce me 414 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: with a ten dollar coupon to to you know I 415 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: should do I should do it because I want to 416 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: do it, is what I'm trying to say. I should 417 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: do it. Of my doctor. 418 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: It's part of the capitalist deal, Dan, when you go 419 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 4: in that's capital. 420 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: So I get it. I get it, but but this 421 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: is one I'm a big capitalist guy, but this is 422 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: one that that troubles me, really does trouble me. 423 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 4: Well, they probably have a formula, they know X amount 424 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 4: of people are going to get the shots. They probably 425 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 4: don't demographics in the area, they know how many. Basically, roughly, 426 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 4: it is going to be reimburssed because if people take them, 427 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 4: and they're just trying to get a bigger percentage of 428 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: that market, because you'll built. 429 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: I totally get that. But what I'm saying is it 430 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: would seem to me that most people should get their 431 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: medical care through their doctor's office. I don't go to 432 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: the grocery store to get a physical. I don't go 433 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: to the grocery store for a proctologist, say yeah. 434 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I agree that I feel better going to 435 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: the doctors. I mean, I'm so shocked that the people 436 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 4: that run their urgent cares for stuff that you know, 437 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 4: urgent care to me is like maybe you know, uh, 438 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 4: well check you have a fever, take to ask bran 439 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: or do this or follow up what you've done. You know, 440 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 4: I can't imagine anything. I just you know, I go 441 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 4: on patient Gateway and if I have a thing, I can, 442 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: I can schedule. I can you know I had a 443 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 4: rash thing one time? You can take a picture, send 444 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 4: it to. 445 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: Him, evaluated, edited. I am. I find Patient Gateway pretty confusing, 446 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: if the truth be done. 447 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 4: I mean, oh yeah, I think. I mean, I you know, 448 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: it's pretty uh. I mean, and I'm not a great 449 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: computer guy, but I manage it pretty good. 450 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 2: Well, good for you, good, good for you. Okay, hey Bill, 451 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: I gotta let you run here because we're here, We're 452 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 2: going on. You'd be well, okay, stay do whatever you 453 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: got to do to stay healthy this winter. Okay, thanky. 454 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: I Well, but I still haven't heard from anyone who 455 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 2: uh and I should have asked doctor Drona if there's 456 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: any predictions out there in terms of COVID. I just 457 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: don't get a sense it's on anyone's radar. Ron? Is 458 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: it Newton? Hey? Ron, welcome back, How are you hi? Dan? 459 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 5: Thanks so much, great topic. You know, I think decisions 460 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 5: are always an individual and based on a risk benefit. Yes, 461 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: and as you have underscored every single moment that you 462 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 5: know it. 463 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: By the way, Ron, I had to be the bear 464 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: of bad news here, but the Yankees have just eliminated 465 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 2: the Red Sox for nothing. Brilliant pitching performance by the 466 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: young guy Yankee pitcher who pitched for Walpole High School 467 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: in Northeastern camp Slittler. Slitler, I believe is how his 468 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: name is pronounced. His dad as the police chief in Nita, Massachusetts. 469 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: And the Yankees move on and the Red Sox. The 470 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: truck leaves in about one hundred and twenty days from 471 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: Fenway Park. I'm sorry to be the bear of that 472 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: bad news. 473 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 5: I'm sad, Dan, that's I mean, that's that was one 474 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 5: of our bright spots. 475 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: Well we still have the Patriots wrong. Yeah, okay, all right, 476 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: let's get back to this story at here and go 477 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: right ahead. 478 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 5: So again, I think it's it's everything that you have 479 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 5: is a risk benefit decision, and it's you are the 480 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 5: one that is an individual case. I am currently currently 481 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 5: I have eight different vaccines that that's tiny because I 482 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 5: have international travel, everything ranging from hep A hapy new 483 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 5: macaccle vaccine that you had, the pneumonia vaccine that you 484 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 5: had alluded to me, Ninja cockle, tetanus, typhoid, yellow fever. 485 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 5: I get the flu shot in COVID every year. 486 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: But well, again, your situation is you could be activated 487 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: in this medical team that you're associated with to go 488 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: literally anywhere in the world within twenty four hours. And 489 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 2: if people are going to travel internationally, normally they have 490 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: to check in with their doctors and make sure that 491 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: that they have the proper vaccines depending upon the country 492 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 2: they go to. Let me ask you this as a 493 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: as a medical professional, does it strike you odd or anything. 494 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: I'm just going to say the word odd by the 495 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: fact that you go into a grocery store or into 496 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: a pharmacy and people are their advert they're basically will 497 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 2: give you a ten dollar coupon if you get your shot. 498 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 2: Here is there's something about that. 499 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 5: I'm not comfortable with that. To be honest with you. 500 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: It's certainly convenient and if the purpose is to get 501 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: more people immunized, that the whole concept member that was 502 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: they talked about herd immunity. That's okay, I guess if 503 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: it's if that's a more effective delivery system. 504 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, well maybe it's a way to coax people to 505 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 5: think about it. I don't know, but I mean my 506 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 5: source is the Travel and Immunization Center at MGH, which 507 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 5: is what we use. And I actually have to have 508 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 5: an international certificate, a vaccination, a yellow card that I 509 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 5: carry with me when I go. 510 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: Sure, you gotta have something. Remember we all used to 511 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: be walking around with our COVID cards. I couldn't find 512 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: my COVID card to save my life right now, it 513 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: got filled up. Do you know where your COVID card are? 514 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: You probably knowing you, you probably know where your COVID 515 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: card is. 516 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 5: I have my COVID card, but I also have the 517 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 5: partner gateway as you know that you can go right 518 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 5: on and see it. But I have to tell you 519 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 5: I had the discussion in August with the I have 520 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 5: a chief of the chief of what I call the 521 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 5: ub itis Clinic because I have an immuno logic hyperactivity 522 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 5: that sometimes happens. I have a rheumatoid condition in my age. 523 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 5: I'm seventy, so I discussed it with my doctor in 524 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 5: August in the U Guidist clinic. 525 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 6: Because every time, yep, that's yeah, brod, that's the best 526 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 6: advice that you could give anyone, and that is, don't 527 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 6: do anything in this regard without dealing with your doctor, 528 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 6: because the doctor knows your best. 529 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: And I think that's the point I'm trying to make. 530 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 5: And I'm at risk because I get I can get 531 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 5: an inflammatory reaction and I did last year. Yeah, and 532 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 5: had the emergency room. 533 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: So we'll get a little bit of too much information there, Ron, 534 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: if you get my dript, Yeah, TMI, butddy of mine 535 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: loves to say t M. I all right, my friend, 536 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: we'll talk soon. Okay, Thanks Ron, Thanks very much, Thanks buddy, 537 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 2: talk to you later. Six six. Uh, let's have at it. 538 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: Get some open lines here at eleven will change topics. 539 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: I'd like to get a little bit more reaction from 540 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: my audience about getting vaccinations at pharmacies or at grocery stores. 541 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: Something about it hits me wrong. It is obviously a 542 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: a consequence of COVID, and I guess if it makes 543 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: us safer that's fine. There's something about it, and also 544 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: the idea of you get a coupon for a couple 545 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: of bucks if you get if you get your COVID vaccine. 546 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. There's just in terms of our medical 547 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: delivery system. Strikes me. On six one seven thirty six 548 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: one seven nine three, ten thirty. The Red Sox season 549 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: is over. Hate to be the bare of bad news. 550 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: They have lost to the Evil Empire. Back on Night's side. 551 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: After this Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 552 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: news radio. 553 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: No joy in Mudville, the Red Sox lost four nothing 554 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: to the Yankees. The Red Sox season is over. I 555 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: just did the math. They think it's about one hundred 556 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: and twenty nine days or something, depending upon early February. 557 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm thinking the bus leaves for Fort Myers, not the bus. 558 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: The truck leaves for Fort Myers around February eight, So 559 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: we got one hundred and twenty nine days. Hey, the 560 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Red Sox had a pretty good season, particularly considering the 561 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: injuries that they suffered. We might talk about that in 562 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: the I might try to talk about it in the 563 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 2: final hour tonight, But in the meantime, we're talking about 564 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: reaction to doctor Shira Deran. She was excellent tonight. She 565 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: really was in a It's the type of guest on 566 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: night side that I really enjoy because that guest is 567 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: helping all of us. Let me go next to Shirley 568 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: in Lawrence, Massachusetts. Shirley, appreciate you calling in your question 569 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: of comment. 570 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 7: Shirley just on that I actually get my vaccine. I'm 571 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 7: getting the flu vaccine at work because I work at 572 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 7: a university and they just have sty markets. They have 573 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 7: their pharmacists come in and they do it three different times, really, 574 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 7: and I do it because I don't want to pay 575 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 7: the twenty five dollar copa to have to go to 576 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 7: my doctor's office. 577 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: I okay, yeah, yeah, Well, first of all, that's convenient 578 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: for you. How often has your school done this for you? 579 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 7: So they've been doing it since COVID? 580 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well yep. I mean I think that's a plus. 581 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: The fact that it's done in your office where I'm 582 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: sure there's a room set aside and everything is, you know, 583 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: perfectly clean and all of that, and I just feel 584 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: a little I got I got my flu shot at 585 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: a pharmacy and the nurse or whomever it was, that 586 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: administrative shot, could not have could not have been nicer, 587 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: could not have been nicer. But there's just something about 588 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 2: walking into a grocery store and being induced to get 589 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: a shot because you you're going to get a coupon 590 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 2: or something. 591 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: You know. 592 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 7: No, I agree, I agree with you. I'm just like 593 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 7: I said, it's just convenient and I don't want to 594 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 7: have to pay that cope. 595 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: It's a twenty five dollar cope, totally understand. 596 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a lot anyway. So it's like it's like 597 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 7: a win win for me. 598 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so they do. So the university does the COVID 599 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: shot for you or or is it the flu shot? 600 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: I forget what you said. 601 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 7: You could get both. You could get COVID, you could 602 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 7: get the flu, depending upon your age. You could get 603 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 7: the new. 604 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 5: Macaco Yeah, okay, okay. 605 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: And there are three times you said when when they 606 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: when they make the shots available, So that makes it 607 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: convenient too. So I don't know if you have to 608 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: pay a co pay at all of the shots, but 609 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: you save more than twenty five dollars. You save twenty 610 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 2: five dollars. You said what on the on the COVID shot, 611 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: and then there must be an equivalent amount on the 612 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,959 Speaker 2: flu shot or whatever as well. 613 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 7: Exactly, I don't write I don't have to pay for 614 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 7: anything because you just have it on your insurance cards, 615 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 7: and your insurance pays full of the shot itself, so 616 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 7: I don't have to Hey, my COPAI going to the 617 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 7: doctors and I. So basically, you know, you get your 618 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 7: shot for free. 619 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I hadn't thought of it that way, to 620 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: be honest with you, but that makes a lot of sense. 621 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 2: I've only seen in stores and pharmacies this year. I've 622 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: only seen the flu shot. Maybe maybe they make the 623 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: COVID shots available as well. I've gotten COVID shots other years, 624 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: and again, it just could be the grocery store or 625 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: the pharmacy that I'm going to. To be honest with you, 626 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: that could be I got to maybe look around a 627 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: little more, a little more carefully. Thanks. 628 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not doing the COVID this year. I'm just 629 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 7: doing the flu. 630 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: But how old are you if I could have? How 631 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: old are you if I could. 632 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 7: Ask, I'm going to be fifty six in November. 633 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: Okay, well you're not in that category they're saying. I 634 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 2: think over sixty five people should seriously consider to take 635 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: the COVID shot I didn't get. I think I was 636 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 2: due for COVID last May. I didn't take it. I 637 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: did take all my COVID shots. And as they said, 638 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 2: it was two years ago, actually it might have been 639 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: in Yeah, I think it was three years ago. Now 640 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: I had COVID and it was it was, it was. 641 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't that bad, to be really honest with you, 642 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 2: I mean it was. You know, it was a couple 643 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 2: of days where you felt a little down. But if 644 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: you get COVID, get packslovered, right. 645 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 7: So I'll tell you I had it two years ago 646 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 7: and I wasn't that bad. I had a fever, you know, 647 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 7: it wasn't all that bad. Couple as in pain. But 648 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 7: my worst one was December of twenty twenty. And I'm 649 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 7: a long hauler. I still can't smell still smell, Yeah, 650 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 7: I think that. 651 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: I think that that first wave of COVID because I 652 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 2: have friends of mine who are what they call long haulers. 653 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: So you cannot smell anything. 654 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 5: I mean, it has to be. 655 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 7: Super super super strong, like a bleach wow, really really strong. 656 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 7: And for tasting, it has to be something really sweet, like. 657 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 5: Really super sugary. 658 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 7: Sweet, like a lemonade. Or it has to be super spicy. 659 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 2: Wow. So so if if you were blindfolded and I 660 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: held a purple onion under your nose, which is very 661 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: easy to smell, you wouldn't You wouldn't be able to 662 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: say that's a that's an onion. 663 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 7: Unless it was super super super strong. No, I would not. 664 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 665 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 7: Like I work at a university and we can walk 666 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 7: into dormitory and what I call my right hand man, 667 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 7: he'll say, wow, you know you can tell their smoke 668 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 7: in their marijuana tonight does not even affect me. 669 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 2: Well, I can't. 670 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 7: I can't smell it. 671 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if that means you wouldn't have 672 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 2: a contact high, but whatever, it's one of one of 673 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: the problems of the jew of the job. Okay, thanks Shirley, 674 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 2: I appreciate it very much. Hey, have a great night, 675 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, Thank you for listening, and thank you 676 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: for calling. Have a great night. 677 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 5: Good welcome all. 678 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 2: We come back right after eleven o'clock news. I'm not 679 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: sure what we're gonna do. I'm conflicted. I've got an idea. 680 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 2: I'll run it by you. We'll see what you want 681 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 2: to say. Coming back on night side