1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,480 Speaker 1: Michael. 2 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 2: I saw two miracles this weekend. First, the Jets finally 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: won a game. Next, the Broncos won five in a row. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: And now there's a possible a third miracle that you 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: will finally have a good show today. 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Good luck. 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: He's gonna have a spectacular show today because he's not here. 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: That's how Michael brown improves his program. 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: He's off, he's doing something. I get the phone call. 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 3: I actually have a red phone on on my desk. Actually, no, 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: it's a Brown phone. It's a brown phone that lights 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: up whenever Michael Browns needs to be bailed out. So 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: I can either pay for him to get bailed out 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: of jail, or I can come and do his show. 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: I lose less money doing this. Hey, I'm John Caldera. 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: Seven minutes after give me a call three h three 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: seven one three eight two five five seven to one 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: three talk. Don't worry, he'll be back tomorrow. Where do 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: we go? Where do we start? At the top of 20 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: the news, you heard that the shutdown. Oh my god, 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 3: the shutdown is entering its thirty eighth week or whatever 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 3: it is. I guess fifth week has really been five 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: weeks already. 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: Let's started on the first, right, So it makes twenty seven. 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: I think today would be the twenty seventh. All that, 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: and what what. 27 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 3: Do you feel about it? Has your life really been impacted? 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: I love the fear part of it. This is the 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 3: way shutdowns usually work. The White House Congress can't agree 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: on a budget. This is healthy. And there's a rule 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: who gets blamed when there's a shutdown? 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: It's real simple. Is it the. 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: President that gets blamed? Or is it Congress that gets blamed. 34 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: There's a time honored tradition. You just blame whoever the 35 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: Republican is. That's the way that is. So Republicans always 36 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: take the blame. However, this time around, I'm getting a 37 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: very different vibe. I'm not saying that Chuck Schumer is 38 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: getting the blame in unison. 39 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: But I'm getting two things. 40 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: One, Democrats are taking it on the chin, and two, 41 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: nobody cares. 42 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean nobody cares. So you heard at the top 43 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: of the hour. 44 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: That some forty million Americans may not get their supplemental 45 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: nutrition assistance what we used to wonderfully call food stamps, 46 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: because they give you this little stamp, they give you 47 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: this coupon. 48 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: But heaven forbid, we didn't want to. 49 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: We didn't want to make anybody feel bad or publicly 50 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,279 Speaker 3: humiliated with handing. 51 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: Over a piece of paper. 52 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: So they put it on a little debit card and 53 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: you go to the store and you buy your stuff. 54 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: Then you use your debit card. Cool forty million. Forty 55 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 3: million Americans need food assistance. I don't think so. We're 56 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: talking about twelve to thirteen percent of all Americans get 57 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: free food. 58 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: Now, I get it. 59 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: There are people who are poor, and we want to 60 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: help those people who are poor. We want to help 61 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: those who need who need some assistance. 62 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I get that. 63 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: There is no way on odds green earth that thirteen 64 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: percent of all Americans cannot buy food. It's a fib 65 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: It means that there are too many people on food stamps. Likewise, 66 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: here in Colorado, we've got this. Oh my god, we've 67 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: got to do Medicaid cuts. Well, Medicaid was made for 68 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: people who were extremely poor or handicapped. Now I've got 69 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: a rooster in this fight. As you know, my son 70 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 3: has down syndrome. He's an adult. He has Medicaid. He 71 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: gets Medicaid services. It helps out with his insurance, It 72 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: pays for this is important. He depends upon it. You see, 73 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: he can't work, he doesn't have a job, he can't read, 74 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: he can't write very much like his old man, and 75 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: he and he's on Medicaid. I think, I think most 76 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: of us look at Medicaid and go. 77 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: That's what it's there for. 78 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: It's there to help people who cannot help themselves. They 79 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: want to help themselves, but they cannot help themselves. 80 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: Instead, thanks to Obamacare. 81 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: Which gave away Medicaid dollars for healthy people to get insurance, 82 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: people who have jobs to get insurance, and then with COVID, 83 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 3: we opened it up to everyone. 84 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: So this is what hacks me off. 85 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: Here in Colorado, people on Medicaid are taking a cut. 86 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: They were going to get a one whopping, whopping one 87 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: point two percent increase in their funding this year. Keep 88 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: in mind inflation went up three percent, so they're losing money. 89 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: So instead of making the tough call and getting. 90 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: Getting those people who don't belong on Medicaid off the 91 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 3: Medicaid rolls, instead, our governor decided, well, we'll just give 92 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 3: everybody a cut instead of making the tough decision. What 93 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 3: about that evil, evil president of ours? What did he 94 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: sign in the win one big beautiful bill A work requirement. 95 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: That's it, a work requirement. All you need to. 96 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: Do is have a job or show that you cannot 97 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: have a job. 98 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 4: So people. 99 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: Or handicapped go, yeah, I want a job. I can't 100 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: get one because I'm handicapped. It doesn't affect that. But 101 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: instead of saying, hey, if you're working or you can 102 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: have a job, we're not going to give you these benefits, 103 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: or we're not going to give you these benefits for 104 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: your entire lifetime. I guess that's what really really anguish me. 105 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: Is this shutdown bothering you? Is this shutdown affecting you? 106 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: How has it? How has it ruined your life? Or 107 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: have you even noticed? 108 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: Three? 109 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: Or three seven, one, three, eight, two five five. Let's 110 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: talk to Don Don Welcome you with John Kelder. 111 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: Glad to have you. 112 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: Well, I'm one to dation. I hear a polar bear 113 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: in the snowstorm rather than the bell. But hey, glad 114 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: to talk to you wherever I can. Hey, well, you know, 115 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: we haven't really felt the effects of the lockdown yet, 116 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 4: and and the goal for the Democrats is to with 117 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: the help lockdown, well, shutdown, lockdown. Well I think I know, 118 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: But anyway, they're hoping that that that the shutdown will 119 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 4: last long enough for their allies in the news media 120 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: to convince enough people to start voting Democrat once democratic 121 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: or see that you. 122 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: And usually that works, Usually that works. 123 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: Something feels a little different this time, and that people 124 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: are starting to notice. 125 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: On the left there is this growing. 126 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: Civil war that the hardcore progressives push Schumer to stand 127 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: up to Trump, and so he did. 128 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he's getting rewarded for it. 129 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: The hardcore left will never thank you. They just even 130 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: if you give them what they want, it's never enough 131 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 4: with them. It is always make revolution, keep making revolution. 132 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 4: This is this is what it happens. It never ends, 133 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 4: it never ends, and then you're going to see the 134 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: collapses of society because these people are never satisfied. This, this, 135 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: I'm afraid, is the equivalent of communist Russia, or the 136 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: or the mobs where. 137 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: The market what exactly is the equivalent? Help me understand? 138 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: Well, basically, it's just make revolution, protests, seek and destroy, 139 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: will rebuild it later. But they don't know how to 140 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: do it. I think I think now what Mark Levn 141 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: has been saying on his talk shows is being proven 142 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: correct that these people just you know, they always like 143 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: to sing John Lenn's Imagine, but the real theme for 144 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 4: the progressive left should be Metallica's Seek and Destroy. The 145 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: lyrics and that song see can Destroy Do sound like 146 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: that angry le, this activist that wants to hurt people, 147 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: especially those there is a difference. 148 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're I think you're onto something. Yeah, 149 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: you know, I always thought, you know, the left was 150 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 3: was cozy and and kitschy and weird and. 151 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: At least safe. 152 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: But no, there is a growing revolutionary faction, the AOC, 153 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: the Bernie Sanders faction, and those who take take it 154 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 3: and are much more violent. I look at what happened 155 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: to Charlie Kirk, I look at what happened to the 156 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: head of United Healthcare. I see what happened in other 157 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: states that that violence is an acceptable way to push 158 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 3: the revolution. 159 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't see it getting better. 160 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: They've always been pushing the revolution, but the revolution has 161 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: been more secret. With the the likes of basically like 162 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: the feminist movement. I can't think of that one name, 163 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: the one who wrote sexual Politics, I mean Kate Millet. Yeah, 164 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: but she had a conscious rising movement that was secret. 165 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: They said we're going to make revolution. We're going to 166 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: destroy the patriarchy by promoting promise security in all this 167 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 4: sexual decadence, which I mean, nobody call it a revolution 168 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: or anything, you know, just gradual change. 169 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: Let's let's bring it from the general to hear. In 170 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: Colorado for just a second. I believe there is a 171 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: growing civil war inside the Democratic Party, just like Colorado's 172 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:51,359 Speaker 3: Republican parties decimated, absolutely decimated, and the media is finally 173 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 3: being forced to recognize and say some of these things 174 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: of what's going on. The fight over the shutdown is 175 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: a perfect example here in Colorado. The state legislature is 176 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: an upheaval. Now keep in mind Republicans have no control 177 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: of anything in Colorado, all right. They are a minority 178 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: of a minority party. They are almost a super minority. 179 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 3: So any political strife is between the left and the 180 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 3: far left in Colorado. But yet we don't hear about it. 181 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 4: They can't. They must support this forward cause they always say, 182 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: the left of the Democrats, we're moving forward, we're moving 183 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: forward to something we're bettering themselves. That's what I hear 184 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: from the humanists, which which let me say, let me 185 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: tell you this, John, the militant humanists, the humanist or 186 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 4: the established organization, the organized Humanists. They themselves are part 187 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: of the progressive coalition. That's all you hear from them. 188 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 4: They have to cover it up. They must cover it up. 189 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 4: Otherwise they have to admit that not only conservesm is real, 190 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: but perhaps the face that Charlie Kirk is real. And 191 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: they don't want to go They don't want to go 192 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 4: to go back to that. They want to go moving 193 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: forward so that, you know, maybe they can. They talk 194 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,239 Speaker 4: about liberation, and I think they want to liberate themselves 195 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 4: from any accountability. 196 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: Even though they want to push a socialistic cause. 197 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: But let's let's don't. 198 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 4: Look at this built around man, and it's built around 199 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: man and that's some higher power or whatever. 200 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Well, I don't even think that that's part of it. 201 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: But let's I think, you know, well, wha whaa. 202 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on, hang on, let me let's there 203 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: is a victimization going on in Colorado's left towards moderate democrats. 204 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 3: And it's hard for those of us who are more 205 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 3: conservative to remember there was a time when Democrats in 206 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: Colorado were not anti business, they were not anti child, 207 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: they were not anti taxpayer. 208 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: They they they actually were capitalists. 209 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: There was a time when Roy Romer was governor, and 210 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: while we disagreed with him on all those sort of things, 211 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 3: he was a businessman. He owned a business. Today, these 212 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: democrats inside the Colorado Democratic Party and in the legislature 213 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: are too scared to stand up to the canceled culture 214 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: hard left of their party because these people are nasty 215 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: and no matter what you do, you're a racist, You're 216 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 3: an absolute racist, and therefore you could get canceled. 217 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: So they go along to get along. 218 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: The perfect example, the prime example, the prime example of 219 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: this type of democrat, I believe, is our governor. Our 220 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: governor who is a capitalist, Our governor who knows better 221 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: but cannot stand up to the crazy wing of his 222 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: leftist party. Will our next governor, which will either be 223 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: Michael Bennett or Phil Wiser, will they be able to 224 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: stand up? I don't see it. 225 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: And the left will destroy the state, just like they 226 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: destroyed California. And for what so that this true communism 227 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: will emerge in our state. This is this is what 228 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: they this is what they've been taught. This is what 229 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: the public education people are. The teachers have been indoctrinated into, 230 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 4: and they're pushing on their kids. It is destructive. 231 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for the phone call, have yourself a great morning? 232 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: What a sunshiny call? 233 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: That was three or three seven one three eight two 234 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: five five seven one three talk. So the threat of 235 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: the of the shutdown, what has it wrought for us? Well, 236 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: it's starting to really make a problem. If you're on 237 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: food stay, if you're on Snap, will you not get 238 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: your money? Forty million Americans on Snap? That makes no sense. 239 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: That's when we start giving giving money to people who 240 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: don't need it. What is wrong with a work requirement? 241 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: Let me go back to the times of Bill Clinton. 242 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: Remember when Republicans forced him to sign a welfare reform bill. 243 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: Took three tries, he finally signed it. Welfare got devolved 244 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: to the states, and most states put in work requirements. 245 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: You want your welfare, great, but you have to show 246 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: that you're applying for jobs. You have to show that, 247 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: if offered, you'll take the job. In other words, there 248 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: was some sort of condition on it. You couldn't just 249 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: get free stuff because you breathed. You had to show 250 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: you were trying to find it. Job lo and behold, 251 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 3: lots of people said, huh, I don't want to get 252 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: a job. I'll just stop taking the free stuff. Some 253 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: of them took a job. We forget how great welfare 254 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 3: reform was in the nineties, but now with medicaid reform 255 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 3: basically doing exactly the same thing, saying you've you've got 256 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: to have a job. You have to have at least 257 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: a part time job or be volunteering that amount before 258 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: you get your medicaid. Why is that bad? Why was 259 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: it that a Democratic president was taking credit for welfare 260 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: reform and now Democrats run from it. It's because they 261 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: want to get you addicted to somebody else paying for 262 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 3: your stuff. 263 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: We're at a very. 264 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: Dangerous point in our country's history. We've gotten to the 265 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 3: point now where so many people are reliant on freebies 266 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: from the government. It's no longer sustainable. You cannot distribute 267 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: what you haven't created. We have more people working than taking. 268 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: In DC this weekend. Michael. 269 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 3: Media is on fire about the ballroom, but they made 270 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: no mention about the new. 271 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 5: Moat, the Trump moat, the only moat that's in the 272 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 5: letter of a t Hey, I'm John DELDERA good morning, Michael, 273 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 5: noasta key, I'll be with you today. 274 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: He should be back tomorrow. Not to worry. 275 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 3: So we're talking a little bit about the shutdown. Have 276 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: you noticed anything. This has been the most shutdown of 277 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 3: my life. I mean, this happens every now and then 278 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 3: Congress and the White House don't agree, or sometimes Congress 279 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: can't agree with itself. 280 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: Which is a part of the case today. 281 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: On a budget, but so much of our budget is 282 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 3: on autopilot that it doesn't really matter. So the discretionary 283 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 3: items don't get paid, but Social Security benefits go out, 284 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 3: Medicaid benefits go out, Via benefits go out, the Army 285 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: doesn't go home. Things keep going. The power of inertia 286 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: is amazing. Now we're just false starting. That's the wrong word. 287 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: We're just stalling the inevitable. There is a ma massive 288 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: budget crisis coming to America and we won't face it. 289 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: We're kind of like that buddy of yours who just 290 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: keeps running up his credit cards because he can, and 291 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: when it busts, well, that's tomorrow's problem. Today I'm just fine, 292 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: you know. So we have these little skirmishes over the budget. 293 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: Now when the budget is still working, that is, there's 294 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: still room on the credit card to put more sooner 295 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: or later. 296 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: That doesn't happen sooner or later. 297 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to start looking at the big items 298 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 3: in the budget. 299 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: What big items? 300 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: Social Security, which will be going broke in the next 301 00:20:51,800 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: ten years, Medicaid, the VA, Medicare, Medicaid, all these are 302 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: so unsustainable that they cannot continue. Most of the budget 303 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: is on autopilot. It's called entitlements. What a terrible word. 304 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm entitled to this, and you do you feel entitled 305 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 3: to get these benefits? The problem is most people get 306 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: more in benefits than they've ever paid in to for benefits. 307 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: It is going to blow up. Will it blow up 308 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 3: in my lifetime? Quite possibly? 309 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: Will it blow up in my kids' lifetime? 310 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, most probably three or three seven to one, three eight, two, five, 311 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: five seven to one three talk. So will we start 312 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: seeing something and that affects us? How about this one 313 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: from NBC News. Flights to LA's International Airport halted due 314 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: to air traffic controller shortage. So yesterday flights to LAX 315 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: were halted. The FAA cited a shortfall of air traffic controllers. 316 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 3: Federal Aviation Administration said departing for Los Angeles International Airports 317 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: flights there were halted Sunday morning due to a staffing 318 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 3: shortage at Southern California air traffic facilities. The FAA issued 319 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: a temporary ground stop at one of the world's busiest airports. 320 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 3: Soon after, The US Transportation Secretary, guy named Sean Duffy, 321 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 3: predicted that travelers would see more flight delays and cancelations 322 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: in the coming days. 323 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: Great, I gotta go on a trip in a few days. 324 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: This is wonderful. 325 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: Just yesterday, Duffy said, just yesterday, we had twenty two 326 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 3: staffing triggers. That's one of the highest that we've seen 327 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: in the system since the shutdown began. That's a sign 328 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 3: that the controllers are wearing thin. FAA said. Planes headed 329 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: for la which were held at there or originating airports 330 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: starting at a quarter to noon, causing delays of close 331 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: to an hour. Staffing shortages also caused takeoff and arrival 332 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: disruptions Sunday at Newark Liberty Airport and south West Florida 333 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: Airport in Fort Myers. This is not a surprise. What 334 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: has been your What has been your experience with the shutdown? 335 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: What has been tough for you? For me so far, 336 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: not a thing. They keep it taking money out of 337 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: my paycheck. They keep flying the planes. The checks are 338 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: still going out. This is the best federal shutdown in history. 339 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: Just keep it going, Just keep it going. 340 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't. 341 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: Mmm, So what happens? What happens if a plane goes down? 342 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: What happens if airports shut down? Who wins this fight? 343 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: My senses Trump does. My sense is Trump wins? Why 344 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 3: because the sticky point right here is Chuck Schumer. 345 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: Who does Schumer care about? 346 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 3: Is it the people who pay taxes or the people 347 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: who get the tax money? Does he care about the 348 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: far left of his party? 349 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: Or does he care that airplanes won't be in the air? 350 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 3: You know this, this scare tactic that forty million Americans won't 351 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 3: get their food stamps. 352 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: Shouldn't the outrage be that there are forty million people 353 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: getting food stamps. 354 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: You're telling me that thirteen percent of all Americans need 355 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 3: food stamps. You know that's not the case. How many 356 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 3: Americans need food stamps? Is it five percent of Americans? 357 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: Four percent of Americans? Somewhere around there? Thirteen percent? Thirteen 358 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: percent cent of us need to get food stamps. Text 359 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 3: just came in, John, I don't mind helping those who 360 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: need food. The problem is when one of those recipients 361 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: is in front of me, in line and all their 362 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 3: kids have new iPhones. I saw one person that was 363 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: in front of me using Snap benefits get into a 364 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: Cadillac Escalade when I exited the store. 365 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't way nicer than my car, says this writer. 366 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: The text continues, just because someone chooses to spend their 367 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: money on the wrong things doesn't mean I should subsidize 368 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 3: their food costs. This help was intended to be temporary. 369 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 3: Too many people have become dependent upon this temporary assistance. Rochelle, 370 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: you are dead on I get this the tough part. 371 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: People don't want to make the tough decisions. Medicaid and 372 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: food stamps were made for truly poor people, handicapped people, 373 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: people who could not work, and for a temporary time, 374 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: people going through a tough time. It was never meant 375 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: to be permanent, except for those who are handicapped and 376 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 3: those who are handicapped. I want them to have more money. 377 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: I want them to get better service than they can 378 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 3: by one of two methods. Either we increase taxes to 379 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: give everybody more benefits, or we cut off the people 380 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 3: who don't need the benefits. If you're not willing to 381 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: work and you're able to work, you shouldn't be getting benefits. 382 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 3: All right, let's throw back one hundred years. There were 383 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: always organizations to help the poor. They were mostly churches, 384 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: fraternal orders, societal orders groups, and in their own little community. 385 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: But each one of those groups would have certain requirements. 386 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: They could say, Hey, we're gonna help you out of here, 387 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: but you're gonna have to help. Yeah, sure you can. 388 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 3: You can stay here, but you're gonna have to help 389 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: clean up the place. There were expectations. When government takes 390 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: over the job of charity, it doesn't put those expectations on. 391 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't put those responsibilities on. That's why it's so 392 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: very very important to have a work requirement. And Chuck Schumer, 393 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer is saying, no, we cannot have work requirements. No, 394 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: we got to keep giving food stamps to people who 395 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: who have iPhones and escalades. How about this text, John, 396 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: I recently got on Social Security and Medicare. I keep 397 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: getting calls telling me I can get help with food 398 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: and whatnot. 399 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: Sorry, I have more pride than that. 400 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: Instead of offering for you bees to everyone, should they 401 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 3: wait until we ask for it. I'm sick and tired 402 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: of Democrats trying to buy votes with welfare handouts. 403 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: I get both sides of this. 404 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: Let me repeat. My son is on Medicaid. He's an adult, 405 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: he has down syndrome. 406 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: He needs help. I help him. But if I. 407 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: Didn't help him, he would be one hundred percent a 408 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: ward of the state. 409 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't like that idea. 410 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: I am grateful, very grateful that we have a system 411 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: where he does get help. He gets Medicaid. I still 412 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: buy his insurance. Medicaid helps out with his deductibles. 413 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: If he weren't. 414 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: Under my health insurance, well, then the taxpayer would have 415 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: to pick up all of it. I'm grateful, but I'm 416 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 3: also so angry that his benefits get cut or his 417 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: benefits don't go up with the cost of inflation, because 418 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 3: they give out Medicaid to anyone. It took us the 419 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: better part of three years on a wait list to 420 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: get him through Medicaid, to get him on the rolls 421 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: of Medicaid. This was before Obamacare. And then Obamacare comes 422 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: and anybody goes online to one of the healthcare exchanges 423 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: and within a couple of minutes gets all this government 424 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: subsidy for their insurance. So the people who needed the 425 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: help had to wait for years. And then college bros 426 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: who decided not to have a job but wants of insurance, 427 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: they get a benefit. There's something wrong here. Economists call 428 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: it a moral hazard. This is a moral hazard. Let's 429 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: take it home. Let's take it here to Colorado. On 430 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: your kitchen counter is a ballot and you haven't returned 431 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: that ballot yet. That ballot has on it l L 432 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 3: and MM. The free lunch program lunch program for kids 433 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: in schools that went over budget instantly. They had three 434 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: years to plan for it, to get extra money for it, 435 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 3: and they and it would broke. It went broke. Why 436 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: because they're stealing money from rich people to give just 437 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,719 Speaker 3: slightly less richer people's kids a free lunch. 438 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: That's a moral hazard. 439 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 3: Back after this three h three seven to one three 440 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: eight two five five on six thirty K. 441 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 6: How Hey, John, I am a blue collar federal worker 442 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 6: and it is definitely impacting me. I don't know when 443 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 6: I'm gonna get my next paycheck. The only thing that 444 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 6: I can really rely on now is my VA compensation 445 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 6: as a disabled veteran. So no, keep your mouth shut, 446 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 6: do not keep it going. Both parties do to get 447 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 6: their head out of their butt and come to a resolution. 448 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: I get it. 449 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: If you work for the federal government, you've got a 450 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: rooster in this fight. 451 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: You're not getting paid. That's a problem for you. 452 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 3: It's a problem for us because you're not getting your 453 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: job done. But it also makes me wonder, during this shutdown, 454 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: how much, how much of our government is not necessary? 455 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: What could we get rid of? You know, it's too bad. 456 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: And it was so easy to see that the Doge experience. 457 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: That started. 458 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: Taking away all these federal jobs was done so quickly, 459 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: so poorly, that it wasn't sustainable. Elon Musk was on 460 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 3: the right trail. He was doing the right stuff. There 461 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 3: is so much waste in government, and you know it, 462 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: We all know it. There are so many ways to 463 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: increase our efficiency and when there's a shutdown, but really. 464 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: We don't see any difference. We don't notice anything. 465 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 3: The mail keeps coming, well, the mails should keep coming, 466 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 3: because we put stamps on everything. The post department, the 467 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: postal department gets money from postage. It's supposed to be 468 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: revenue neutral, but the waste in the post office makes 469 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 3: it so that it loses money. The parks are still open, 470 00:34:53,880 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 3: the airplanes are still flying. It leads people to wonder 471 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: what do we really need the government for the Only 472 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 3: time people get really angry is when their benefits get cut. 473 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: For our last caller there, his benefit is a paycheck. Yeah, 474 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 3: that's a tough one. That's a tough one. But wait, 475 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 3: at some point when Social Security checks don't go out, 476 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: you know what happens. This shutdown stops instantly. This all 477 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 3: comes down to Medicaid. It all comes down to requirements 478 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: that people work before they get benefits. 479 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: I'm all right with that. Who isn't alright with that?