WEBVTT - 3-24-26 Sloan with Greg Lawson

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be an American idiot got put on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred WW.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the state of Ohio taking away from you today?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday it was THC drinks, you know, because that's killed

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of people share today. How about some

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<v Speaker 1>higher taxes. Are you a fan of higher taxes. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan of higher taxes. So the Ohio legislature,

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<v Speaker 1>the General Assembly, is moving to tax you, mister and

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<v Speaker 1>missus homeowner if you decide that you're going to rent

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<v Speaker 1>out your home like Airbnb or Verbo for a few days.

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<v Speaker 1>Seems to me like a raw deal, you know, new taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no protections in here. Local governments can still ban

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<v Speaker 1>you from doing entirely. Doesn't feel like free enterprise to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining the show from the Buckeye Institute in Columbus is

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Laws and Greg.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome, Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>We have this, as you know, being in Ohio, you

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<v Speaker 1>know we have this insane property tax burden going on

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<v Speaker 1>right now, some people paying three hundred percent more property taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a move to eliminate property taxes entirely. And now

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<v Speaker 1>this is this a good idea?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's certainly not a good idea to just tax people.

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<v Speaker 3>There's an argument that in some areas that don't have

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<v Speaker 3>like as many hotels, especially some rural areas, that they

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<v Speaker 3>still have what they call visitor and bureau visitor bureau

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<v Speaker 3>conventions that with tourism, that they that there may be

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<v Speaker 3>a need for something. But the concern we have is

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<v Speaker 3>that there are several bills out there, and one of them,

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<v Speaker 3>in particular, unfortunately, House Bill one sixty one, is just

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<v Speaker 3>a tax bill. It just applies the logic tax to

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<v Speaker 3>an airbnb or verbo or any of these short term rentals.

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<v Speaker 3>But it does nothing about what is a growing problem

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<v Speaker 3>in Ohio, which is that local governments are oftentimes preventing

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<v Speaker 3>people from doing it. They're putting bands on airbnbs and verbos.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something that is happening under the home rules stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we've talked about them earlier before, and and

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<v Speaker 3>we think that's a terrible situation. Uh So, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you this, You can't just flat tax on

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<v Speaker 3>something and then just give keep government with the power

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<v Speaker 3>to just continue to stand things. It really is violating

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<v Speaker 3>people's personal property rights. And we think that's the bad idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess your local municipality.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have a problem with the your HOA can

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<v Speaker 1>ban people from doing that, and you sign your rights

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<v Speaker 1>away when you do that. You buy property there. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the rules. You want to move there or not. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't buy round. You know, I own rental property.

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<v Speaker 1>There's someone's I own that that are part of an

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<v Speaker 1>HOA where you can't rent them out. Okay, fine, great,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew that going ahead of time, coming back

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<v Speaker 1>and then taxing people for something they're already paying taxes

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<v Speaker 1>on seems criminal to me. You're already paying the property tax.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to pay you more tax because I'm renting

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<v Speaker 1>it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the argument is that you have hotels that already

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<v Speaker 3>have these taxes that are applying to them, and I

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<v Speaker 3>and the hotels have have for a long time made

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<v Speaker 3>the case that with the advent of all these new

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<v Speaker 3>things short term rentals, that they're being taxed and that's

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<v Speaker 3>but that's essentially an unfair competition, and that it's making

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<v Speaker 3>sure that they don't have the revenue to go back

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<v Speaker 3>into again some of these various marketing things and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that happens in different counties for tourism. So that's the

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<v Speaker 3>argument that's there. And you know, first of all, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't like new taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always been against new taxes. But what I testified

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<v Speaker 3>last week took committee on this in the Ohio House Representatives.

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<v Speaker 3>The argument that we made is we certainly don't like

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<v Speaker 3>taxes if you're not going to make sure that people

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<v Speaker 3>are protecting And I think this is the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>it's so to me, we just about what's happening across

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<v Speaker 3>the high most governments is these bands. I get people

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<v Speaker 3>are worried about having a party house in their neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 3>that isn't under control. And there's several things that deal

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<v Speaker 3>with this. First of all, you can still have and

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<v Speaker 3>should still be able to have local loosen flaws and

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<v Speaker 3>things that kind of people are doing crazy stuff or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, having animal house happening and you know next

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<v Speaker 3>door to you. You know, there's ways to address it.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, folks like Airbnb have policies for the

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<v Speaker 3>platform where if you start doing things like that, you're

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<v Speaker 3>renting it out and you maybe one time you can

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<v Speaker 3>get away with it. But you know, it's like I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's like a three times in you're out sort

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<v Speaker 3>of thing where if this is a recurring pattern and

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<v Speaker 3>you're not taking responsibility in your neighborhood with your property.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't use their platform anymore to rent it out.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have protections for people. We shouldn't be banning them,

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<v Speaker 3>but we certainly shouldn't be taxing people and then not

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<v Speaker 3>guaranteeing that you still can have the right to do

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<v Speaker 3>what you want to with your ro.

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<v Speaker 1>From Yeah, I want to circle back on the zero

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<v Speaker 1>protection argument that you made there, Greg Lawson, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's true. You know, we have nuisance laws in

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati and I could never figure this out. Is if

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<v Speaker 1>you own property in Cincinnati and you rent it out

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<v Speaker 1>and people are you know, either Airbnb or verbal or

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<v Speaker 1>just rental just you know, regular rental, long term rail,

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<v Speaker 1>short timroil, if those people are causing a problem and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, causing the neighborhood maybe racing up and

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<v Speaker 1>down the street, or there's trash all over the place,

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<v Speaker 1>or playing loud music right there, nuisance, the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati makes somehow the landlord eventually responsible for that. Like no,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're an adult and you're running property and you

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<v Speaker 1>are doing stuff like that, that that that that's on

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<v Speaker 1>the city that's on law enforcement to cite that person

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<v Speaker 1>that shouldn't be on the landlord. I mean, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>in there dealing drugs and I know about it may

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<v Speaker 1>be a different story. But if they're just a nuisance,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the individual's responsibility. I you know, I don't get

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<v Speaker 1>a ticket speeding ticket because you know my son uses

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<v Speaker 1>my car, let's say. And that was the argument with

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<v Speaker 1>speed cameras obviously, is you're citing me for something I

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<v Speaker 1>can't control.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's on them. Give them the ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>We should the people who are doing the offense of people.

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<v Speaker 3>That should be right. Both that's the law and that's

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<v Speaker 3>exactly right. That's what should happen. Now if you're if

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<v Speaker 3>you're again doing this on an ongoing basis where you're

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<v Speaker 3>not taking care of that the people that you have

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<v Speaker 3>coming in and this is a an isolated incident that's

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<v Speaker 3>happening all the time, I think there may be a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a different argument there because at that

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<v Speaker 3>point you are sort of not taking the responsibility with

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<v Speaker 3>your own property at that point, and then you are

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<v Speaker 3>having an effort impact from your neighbors and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>the point that it is disturbing about this is when

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<v Speaker 3>when you make these blank determinations by the local governments

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<v Speaker 3>just not doing which is actually, I think really remarkable.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to because you mentioned earlier we have this

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<v Speaker 3>profit tax issue here, and we have local governments who

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<v Speaker 3>should be scared quite a bit about the prospects of

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<v Speaker 3>that making the ballot. Whether it does or not, nobody

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<v Speaker 3>can say for sure at this point because they haven't

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<v Speaker 3>submitted signatures for this constitucial mekema. But if that happens,

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<v Speaker 3>you never believe they're going to want to have some revenue.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're gonna have a hard time having revenue by

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<v Speaker 3>the time you start fanning everybody from being able to

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<v Speaker 3>do those things. It just makes no sense from so

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<v Speaker 3>many different perspectives.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what is it great?

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<v Speaker 3>Great?

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<v Speaker 2>Where does it end?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, if I'm I use my house, let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>for my small business, do I have to pay an

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<v Speaker 1>extra tax there?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>My my spouse is really good, makes sour dough bread,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's them some soured oat bread.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have to?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, where do win with the taxation here? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>already paying the damn property taxes, We're you're too damn high.

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<v Speaker 1>And now if I rent it out, I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>pay even more. You mentioned to zero protections for the

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<v Speaker 1>whole What does that mean the zero protection area.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're basically saying that people have the right to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to make decisions with what they want to

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<v Speaker 3>do with their property. Obviously with the reason you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there are certain things where you can't let

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<v Speaker 3>your property go to the hell and a hand askt

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff of that nature. But this whole notion, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's happening in jurisdiction after jurisdiction where they can come

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<v Speaker 3>in and stop it. And I harp on this point

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<v Speaker 3>because this is not isolating. What this isn't one or

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<v Speaker 3>two jurisdictions, and it isn't just one or two places

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<v Speaker 3>in the state. Really, it's all over the state the proportion,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not it's not just a regional phenomenon. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is the problem that I see, which is local government,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of running them off with these things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a it's actually a much bigger issue. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's a whole bunch of problems frankly with local

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<v Speaker 3>government Inhia, and I think I've molmented some of those

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<v Speaker 3>in the past your show and probably will again we're

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<v Speaker 3>on the same page, and this is just one more

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<v Speaker 3>example of it. So you know, again, UH, there's some

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<v Speaker 3>bills that are out there, by the way, UH that

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<v Speaker 3>would have some degree, would would maybe do the tax,

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<v Speaker 3>but would include prohibitions and preempt local governments from being

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<v Speaker 3>able to do the banning of the short term rentals.

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<v Speaker 2>How does how does local How does the home rule

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<v Speaker 2>apply there?

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<v Speaker 3>Though, well, I'm sure they'll sue uh and make an

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<v Speaker 3>argument that that's violation. But if it's written the right way,

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<v Speaker 3>the legislature does have the ability to write laws that

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<v Speaker 3>are of statewide applicability. Now that's a will. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 3>been in the eye of beholder, and there's been a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of push and pull, frankly between the General Assembly

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<v Speaker 3>and local governments, especially in recent years, over many different things.

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<v Speaker 3>There's been Second Amendment issues, there's been issues like plastic bags, UH,

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<v Speaker 3>some jurisdictions way into band cracking, and so there's all

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<v Speaker 3>these various things that have happened.

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<v Speaker 2>We've made the.

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<v Speaker 3>Case of the buck I speak, that the general simply

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<v Speaker 3>had the right to be able to do preemption because

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<v Speaker 3>if you allow all these locals to prevent all sorts

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<v Speaker 3>of different activity. Short term rentals, it's certainly one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we're seeing this with data centers too

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<v Speaker 3>now coming out, so we're seeing a lot of these things,

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<v Speaker 3>and the general simply has acted in the past to

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<v Speaker 3>say no, you can't do that. They and we think

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<v Speaker 3>that under certain circumstances that is an appropriate thing, because

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<v Speaker 3>what you end up with is you end up with

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, it's sort of a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a joke to say it this way, but it's a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy patchwork of different regulations and US terurisdictions. But that

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<v Speaker 3>makes it hard to do different things. And it's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the problems Ohio has, and it's a mid Western

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<v Speaker 3>state issue in general because of sort of the history there.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you look at southern states and you look

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<v Speaker 3>at Western states, and you look at things that are

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<v Speaker 3>really growing with populations that are really expanding. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you can talk about the weather and stuff, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure that has some degree of influence, but it's taxes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's regulations and kind of taxes and regulations now are

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<v Speaker 3>worse at the local level than they are at the

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<v Speaker 3>state level. Well, that is something that she needs to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look at it this way.

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy Hochele, governor in New York State, she went on

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<v Speaker 1>Camp Patriot said, hey, listen, you know, if you're if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a billionaire, if you've got all this money, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want you here unless you're gonna pay your

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<v Speaker 1>fair share. Well, guess what I just saw a study

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<v Speaker 1>where a huge number of them have moved to Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>cal I think Arizona, California, some some of California, don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why, but to Texas primarily. And now she's she's

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<v Speaker 1>begging those people to come back because they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she guys said, I'm gonna screw you when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be paying your fair share.

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<v Speaker 1>Well guess what liberal Democrat or conservative Republican aside, they

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<v Speaker 1>all moved out of the state and now they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough money to pay for their what it is

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<v Speaker 1>they want to do. The same thing would apply here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Indiana, Florida and Arizona also do this as well,

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<v Speaker 1>where they blocked local short term rental bands in Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be next by the way, Greg law since

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<v Speaker 1>here from Buckeye Institute in Columbus, as the state of

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio yesterday took the THG drinks away. Today higher taxes

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of the insane property tax were paying. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to rent out your home of a

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<v Speaker 1>weekend as someone, they want to tax you and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no protections there for you, basically meaning they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>tax the activity and not protect your right to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know you could pay taxes today and face

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<v Speaker 1>a local band tomorrow in your state or in your

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<v Speaker 1>township municipality. HOA is different because that's part of the

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<v Speaker 1>deal when you buy something in an HOA. But Greg Lawson,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't help but think back to all of these

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<v Speaker 1>seismic shifts, these change agents that happened in the world

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day when Uber and Lyft came along.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember tax I remember the cab drivers Like at

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<v Speaker 1>CBG at the airport, we're up an arms saying wait, well,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on just a second. If you have these independent

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<v Speaker 1>people coming in not panting tax they're not paying all

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<v Speaker 1>these fees and fares, what about they wanted to protect

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<v Speaker 1>their industry. I think the same thing is happening here

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<v Speaker 1>with the rentals. This has got to be the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>motel industry that pays an exorbitant amount of taxes, Like

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<v Speaker 1>every time we raise a tax, well, we'll just add

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<v Speaker 1>to the luxury check. We'll just add to the hotel

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<v Speaker 1>motel tax on this. And when you get a hotel

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<v Speaker 1>night for I don't know, one hundred and fifty bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the bill and it's like, you know, almost

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars are probably more than two hundred because

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<v Speaker 1>of the taxes added on here. I feel for the

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<v Speaker 1>established businesses like hotels motels in this case taxes, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean New York City alone, the price of a hack medallion,

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<v Speaker 1>which basically is a transferable physical license plate that's a

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<v Speaker 1>round circle to medallion and they attach it to the

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<v Speaker 1>hood of a yellow cab in New York the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of one of those medallions is now over a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So from a business perspective, it doesn't seem fair that

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<v Speaker 1>they're competing with uber and left drivers who don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay that exorbitant tax.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is the same model.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think this is a broad that's a big

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<v Speaker 3>question about taxation and what's a fair tax where everybody

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<v Speaker 3>is and when you're nailing certain people, they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get very upset about the new entrance into the marketplace,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they're gonna you know, they prefer them to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not enter the marketplanes, but they certainly want

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<v Speaker 3>them to do that. And that's just where you start

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<v Speaker 3>hearing about the level playing field argument, which on one

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<v Speaker 3>hand is correct. That's an economic theory. It says it

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<v Speaker 3>it's a right thing to do is to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that people that are similar kinds of businesses aren't being

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<v Speaker 3>disproportionately impacted one versus another because of a specific rule

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<v Speaker 3>or in taxation. You want it to be fair across

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<v Speaker 3>the board. And so that's certainly the argument they're using.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you have to look at what are

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<v Speaker 3>we doing with these revenues. I mean, we've had lodging

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<v Speaker 3>tetch for a while, and unfortunately it's a sort of

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<v Speaker 3>scene that the Sophiallo counters like kind of right, because

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<v Speaker 3>what you're essentially saying is we're going to raise the

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<v Speaker 3>revenue on the backs of people who don't necessarily live

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<v Speaker 3>so that we can do that. Now, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean they that is, I mean, Florida certainly does do

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<v Speaker 3>that with some of their taxes and stuff, because they

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of tourism and stuff. That comes through there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I get what the rationale is, but we

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<v Speaker 3>need to be really careful how we think about this.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we're doing this, and you occasionally see bills

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<v Speaker 3>and or things and budget builds and stuff, they'll had

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<v Speaker 3>an additional thing for one visitor Beuera overs another visitors bureau.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not trying to just brag on them. They

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<v Speaker 3>can't help to raise awareness, to get it, do certain

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<v Speaker 3>things to build the infrastructure to bring in concert or

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<v Speaker 3>conferences or what are sporting events and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and so there may be sum rationale for some of that,

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<v Speaker 3>but we need to be very careful when we're applying

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<v Speaker 3>this and then when we start ap playing it to

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<v Speaker 3>new people, we need to really think about what we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing and how we're spending the existing resources that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Laws and Buckeye and watch out for it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>House Bill one sixty one, come in for more property taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically what this is all the best, Thanks again, Budd, appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>You, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get a news update in here momentarily on the

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<v Speaker 1>big one seven hundred w Ody. This is why I

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<v Speaker 1>wake up in the morning and to see how we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get screwed the next day and then talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about it. Coming up next, Andy Schaeffer, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>look at the other side of this thing. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing this, go oh, it's too much. Hold on just

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<v Speaker 1>a second. I got some information for it. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to make you a little bit happier today, despite all

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<v Speaker 1>the craziness in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Simply money. Next seven hundred ww