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Speaker 2: joined us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. Quinn hughes

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Speaker 2: your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I'm ecstatic about it. I know the hockey community has

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Speaker 3: for me. But I think it's great. I love that

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Speaker 3: Billy garn is swinging for the fences. I think that

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is a team that has been stagnant

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Speaker 3: for a long time, and so to go get someone

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Speaker 3: So I'm very happy to see that at anytime an

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Speaker 3: ultimate seal of approval, So who knows what happened, but

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Speaker 3: I just loved it.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen enough already the last two weeks from

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I don't know if I have seen

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Speaker 3: shown is that we don't have to make a decision

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Speaker 3: four weeks ago, you didn't have to decide that he

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Speaker 3: work and you better go look for other options, or

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Speaker 3: then you can start all over. I also don't want to,

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Speaker 3: after just a couple of good games against bad defenses,

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Speaker 3: for ten years. But I do think that it's really

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Speaker 3: I don't want to stamp him as you know, the guy,

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Speaker 3: but I also think that, you know, some of the

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Speaker 3: little over ought as well. So let's just keep it

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Speaker 2: Johnny's appearance, of course, brought to you by r b

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Speaker 2: C Wealth Management. We'll also be talking about a Johnny

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Speaker 2: Chris Finch. We'll get to that a little bit later

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Speaker 2: as well. Or is he affectionately calls him Finchy by

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Speaker 3: Careering back right now. It doesn't have to be in

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Speaker 2: One of our hockey regulars. Right, Johnny sounds like he

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Speaker 2: Is offering some criticism as well. Johnny, I'm just going

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Speaker 2: I'm just asking because everybody is making a big deal

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Speaker 1: According to Paul from Florida. That can't be right, see

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Speaker 3: I will say that the Wolves pr maybe an Aaron

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a text a tweeter who believes though,

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Speaker 3: back into a corner and just like take them for

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Speaker 3: everything they're worth and give them nothing. He had to

437
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Speaker 3: pay a big price to extract Cues, who is a great,

438
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Speaker 3: great player and and and so he was willing to

439
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Speaker 3: do that. That takes guts man, and so yes, I

440
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Speaker 3: do like that package that was sent to Vancouver.

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Speaker 2: In the brief time during this interview, we chatted about

442
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Speaker 2: the trade. Did you say, you know what, purposefully knowing

443
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Speaker 2: that that's the Bill Garran cliche? You know what, was

444
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: that you trying to be snarky? Yeah, I mean it's

445
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: a couple of Texters noticed that and thought that was

446
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: you trying to make a kind of make a maybe

447
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Speaker 2: mock Bill Garran a little bit.

448
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Speaker 3: But you know what, I wish Dan that I went

449
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: that deep on it. I really do. You know how

450
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: I like to stir the pot with the hockey community,

451
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 3: you know how I like to get the responses going

452
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Speaker 3: from them because they sometimes make themselves an easy target.

453
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Speaker 3: But that one was just my natural manner of speaking

454
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Speaker 3: to Maybe that shows that Billy Garran is becoming one

455
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Speaker 3: of us as well, with just that little syntax that

456
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Speaker 3: that's going on. But that was not intentional, okay, and

457
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Speaker 3: and but but maybe that, you know, that just shows

458
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Speaker 3: how deep my game can go when I'm when I'm

459
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Speaker 3: doing it, even when I'm not trying to.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, my sources say, you got something coming up with Finchy?

461
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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

462
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Really, it's super fun thing We're going to do

463
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Speaker 3: at head Flyer Brewing on Saturday this Saturday twentieth, four

464
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Speaker 3: pm start at head Flier Brewing in northeast Minneapolis, a

465
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Speaker 3: live John Krasinski Show recording. Chris Finch is going to

466
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Speaker 3: be there a lot of the support from We have

467
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Speaker 3: a crunch Time beer that we sell there that all

468
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Speaker 3: the proceeds go to Second Harvest Heartland, So it's for

469
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Speaker 3: a great cause. So if you come out buy a

470
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Speaker 3: couple of crunch Time Beers, you're gonna you're gonna be

471
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Speaker 3: able to kind of get help the community and help

472
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Speaker 3: food food security issues right around the holidays, which is great.

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Speaker 3: We have a great conversation with Chris Finch and I

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Speaker 3: can break some news right now day that Bones Highland

475
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Speaker 3: is also going to join at head Flier Brewing on

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Speaker 3: Saturday starting at four pm. So fans, if you want

477
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Speaker 3: to hear from Finchy, if you want to hear from

478
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Speaker 3: Bones Highland, the new point guard of the Minnesota Timberwolves,

479
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Speaker 3: it should be an awesome, awesome show, So please come

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Speaker 3: on out and support and and feel good about doing

481
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Speaker 3: it by helping Second Harvest heart.

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Speaker 2: Lamb the Bones Highland era of Minnesota Timberwolves basketball.

483
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Speaker 1: I guess it looks good in the trees. I'm not

484
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Speaker 1: gonna lie.

485
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: Well and I have to probably start giving a little

486
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Speaker 2: bit more credit. I admit I'm I've gotten hung up

487
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Speaker 2: on the bias of well, where's he been in a

488
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Speaker 2: houege bones Highland? I mean, I love the nickname and

489
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Speaker 2: it's okay, but what where are we going with this thing?

490
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Speaker 2: So I think he obviously has done enough where I

491
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Speaker 2: need to maybe open my mind a little bit. I'm

492
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Speaker 2: not saying he's going to be comeback Player of the

493
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Speaker 2: Year or anything, but it may be time for me

494
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Speaker 2: to give.

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Speaker 1: Him a little bit more slack. Is that correct?

496
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Speaker 3: He's playing well? Yeah, I'm not ready to say that.

497
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Speaker 3: You know, he's the case Keenum of the Timberwolves right now. Yeah,

498
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 3: because he's got to do a little bit more. But

499
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: he certainly is being helpful right now and he gives

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Speaker 3: them something that they haven't had at that spot, either

501
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: with Conlee or doing him. And so he played great

502
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 3: last night and we'll see as a competition increases later

503
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Speaker 3: this week and stuff, wow how he fares. But so

504
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 3: far has been a really cool story for a guy

505
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 3: that's bounced around a lot. S Connolly loves him and

506
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: he seems like he's he's finding his way, uh with

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Speaker 3: this group and that's been cool to see.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Johnny, we'll talk a right thing. Dan appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: John Krasinski, formerly known as AP Sports Guy, joining us

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Speaker 2: brought to brought to you by our good friends at

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Speaker 2: rb C Wealth Management, Ben Lieber. Usual time probably about

512
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Speaker 2: four forty seven. And looky here, look who has surfaced again.

513
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: Regarding JJ McCarthy. It's our guy, Chris Carter.

514
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Speaker 1: He's back.

515
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Speaker 2: And if you're a mcbobo, I'm not sure you're going

516
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Speaker 2: to love what he has said. Most recently, Alan out

517
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: of Afton has done our research for us. He claims, Dan,

518
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 2: there are only two dates that all three teams played,

519
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: December fifteenth, twenty twenty five and December twenty two thousand

520
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Speaker 2: and three. This was the previous These are the previous

521
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Speaker 2: occurrences before. I guess, wow, that just seems crazy. So again,

522
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not the end of the world. But

523
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Speaker 2: when you throw out it's been twenty years, I think

524
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: the presumption is, wow, there's been a bunch of times

525
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: where that's about I mean, that's been that long. I mean,

526
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Speaker 2: what's our record in those games like four and ninety

527
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Speaker 2: or whatever. And it's so I think it is actually

528
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Speaker 2: germane to the conversation, Texter guy writes, Bill Garan has

529
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Speaker 2: big meatballs. After the trade, Did Bill Garran do the

530
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Speaker 2: big meatball dance?

531
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Speaker 1: I did? I think the same. Texter texted Sunday and

532
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: I used this text. It's clever.

533
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: I like, it's it's a callback to the Sam Cassel

534
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 2: exactly right, balls dance And Yeah, Garren confirmed with us

535
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: that he was back on meatball patrol. While he was

536
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Speaker 2: talking with us at nine am on sermons, how.

537
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Speaker 1: Many meatballs do they need?

538
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Speaker 2: Well, it's the party of the century, he admits, like

539
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: they got a Christmas party coming up. I think he

540
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: said he had like sixty five pounds of meat. Thanks

541
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: for the invite, Yeah, I I that's what I said.

542
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Speaker 2: But I mean we're not going to get to the

543
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Speaker 2: Churchill Room. We're not going to get to Garren's version

544
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Speaker 2: of the Churchill Room either. I just give up the

545
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Mace just had a big former player

546
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Speaker 2: alumni dinner at Jack's Caffeine. Did somebody sent me a

547
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Speaker 2: picture of wondering if it was the Churchill Room and

548
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't. Yeah, that was Jack Jax. As you said,

549
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Speaker 2: great spot, You're not invited that I were not. Yeah,

550
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: that would have been nice. We could have talked about

551
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Speaker 2: the impending ring of honor that I'm working on. Half

552
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: those guys were there. It just so rarely comes up

553
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Speaker 2: with May I know, and he's coming tomorrow, by the way, Oh,

554
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Speaker 2: I thought you were going to get him Wednesday. No,

555
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Speaker 2: he have them, No I can. Well, I'm on Wednesday too,

556
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Speaker 2: aren't I. Yeah, you're on both days. Yeah, so he's

557
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Speaker 2: he's got to go to to go tomorrow. Yeah, he's

558
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Speaker 2: got to go tomorrow, So I better have a ring

559
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: of honor answer. And I was hoping you I mean,

560
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: I love him, but I was hoping.

561
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: To just give a week. But that's okay, I get

562
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Speaker 1: we hit through it. It's all right.

563
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

564
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Speaker 2: And I didn't talk any about the Heisman yesterday because

565
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: there was too much other stuff going on, especially with

566
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: the hockey story. You know, it's funny. It's funny too

567
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: that you know, Johnny mentioned. The fun thing about a

568
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: mega trade like that is if you're in the media

569
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Speaker 2: and in this case reporting, to be able to sort

570
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Speaker 2: of deconstruct the deal and report on it, do an

571
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Speaker 2: oral history of it, the whole bit. It is part

572
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Speaker 2: of the fun and it's part of the fun for

573
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Speaker 2: us because again, you you don't work on sermons, but

574
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Speaker 2: you did a long time ago, and it's a it's

575
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: an easier show, but it's it is very I think nourishing,

576
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: believe it or not to the hosts when you have

577
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: a story like that to follow, So get we got

578
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Speaker 2: to get garin. How about some bonus russo which and

579
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: we got both of it, both of them and and

580
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: those are the best stories on our end of cover.

581
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: They may not always work out, but on the front end,

582
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: they're great to follow and will continue to try to

583
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Speaker 2: do so. In fact, Louis it's a weird wak for Louis,

584
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Speaker 2: so he's not going to join us. I think until Thursday.

585
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Speaker 2: Chris Carter is back in the news on your favorite

586
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Speaker 2: quarterback we at least right now if you're a Vikings fan,

587
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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, have you heard about this?

588
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 3: I have not.

589
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: He was on a flory today with Kay Adams. He's

590
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: on with her a lot, and I guess Adams asked

591
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Speaker 2: him what he thought about McCarthy's gritty into the end zone,

592
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: which will be one of our talking points later. And

593
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: I think Adams acknowledged that Koc wasn't the biggest fan.

594
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Speaker 1: Here's not quote from CC.

595
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Speaker 2: These Michigan guys, that's what I thought to me, that's

596
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: not what koc wants from his quarterback, like that ultimate

597
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: personality number nine, all that stuff. No one's ever won

598
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: in the NFL doing this to me, he acts like

599
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: a kid. He's played like a kid. We're stuck with

600
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: the kids till next year. Adams, trying to maybe soften

601
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: the blow, say, hey, have you seen anything from McCarthy

602
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: that's impressed you. The last couple of weeks, the numbers

603
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: have been a lot better. Here's the Carter response. It's

604
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Speaker 2: the first time in forty years, maybe even fifty, since

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00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: the Viking's been playing inside, that they ever left the

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Speaker 2: game satisfied after their quarterback threw for one hundred and

607
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Speaker 2: fifty yards.

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Speaker 1: That's where we are the last two weeks.

609
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: We have lowered our standards so much to accommodate him. Wow,

610
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: that's pretty front up. Yeah, and not exactly in the

611
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 2: spirit of hey, everything's kind of coming together now. I

612
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: wasn't exactly celebratory early, but I wasn't on quite that level.

613
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: Here's a little more from c from CC, but it's

614
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: about winning it's about growing. And we knew that we

615
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: had a young quarterback. We knew that he didn't get

616
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: a red shirt year last year. That year really hurt him.

617
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: And this is what we're stuck with when Carson Wentz

618
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: gets hurt and now we can't go to the backup.

619
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Speaker 2: We tried that and saw what happened out in Seattle,

620
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Speaker 2: So we're stuck with him. That's the third time in

621
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Speaker 2: this interview he has said we're stuck with him. Hope

622
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: he can stay healthy because these reps that he's getting,

623
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Speaker 2: especially against the competition like Dallas Sunday Night, they're in

624
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: value with for his overall growth. I still believe he

625
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: can be the franchise QUARTERBA. There you go, But let

626
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Speaker 2: me tell you something right now, today.

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 4: Glad.

629
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Speaker 2: I heard that last part because I was just thinking

630
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Speaker 2: about when he joined you a few weeks ago, and

631
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: it seemed to be trying to calm everybody down.

632
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was that it was going to be okay

633
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more.

634
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: He got some Yeah, he got some shots in, but

635
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: then he kind of did a little bit of a

636
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: backpedal from that point.

637
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Speaker 1: For one, this is the first time during JJ's career.

638
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: That meaning justin Jefferson that they can't attack the full field.

639
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 2: Ever since his rookie year in Koc's offense, he've been

640
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 2: able to throw the ball and take deep show downfield,

641
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: especially off the play action. And you can see that

642
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: he's starting to press because he's not getting the numbers

643
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: that he's used to. Randy Moss had some of the

644
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: same issues. He was so successful earlier in his career

645
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: that when things became difficult, and they only got difficult

646
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: with inconsistency at quarterback. So he's pressing c See this

647
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: is all there's more, and this is via bring me

648
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Speaker 2: the sports.

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Speaker 1: Of bring me the.

650
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Speaker 2: News fame' that was my that's I'll give them credit

651
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: because they put this thing together as well. So there

652
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Speaker 2: you have it. And again you don't have to agree

653
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Speaker 2: with Chris Carter. You can think that's being a little

654
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: bit too hourly, but it's why I love him, man.

655
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Speaker 2: He doesn't He doesn't care about what he's supposed to say,

656
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: and that's what Ever since he was a player here

657
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: I think made him one of my favorite interviews.

658
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Speaker 1: It still is.

659
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Speaker 2: Let's make this the bottom of the hour break. We've

660
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Speaker 2: got talking points to get to O do a dead

661
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Speaker 2: guy coming up in the five o'clock hour as well,

662
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Speaker 2: and Ben Lieber later this hour labor in just a bit,

663
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: maybe we get to We got a bunch of Vikings

664
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Speaker 2: talking points, right, you worked.

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Speaker 1: Hard on them, brought to you by Federated Insurance. Exactly right.

666
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Speaker 2: Let me get down to the talking points page and

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00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 2: let's start. As the late great Ron Rosemum would say

668
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: at the beginning.

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Speaker 5: The Minnesota Moving Company is without Christian darisaw at left tackle,

670
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 5: replaced by Justin School McCarthy. Second down, shotgun prose till

671
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: the right coward's patted in the air. Howard picked off

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00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 5: by Quick Williams. It was a block shot tipped into

673
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 5: the air, and Quinnon Williams, the former jet has secured

674
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 5: the interception in his ninety ninth start.

675
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 4: So Dallas come came out in five man front. They

676
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 4: started out with the foreman front. Then they bring in

677
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 4: O Diggi Zua to add an extra body. They put

678
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: somebody off of the edge, so they definitely were putting

679
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: pressure and McCarthy was just trying to get rid of

680
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: it quickly across the middle and the ball batted up

681
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 4: in the air. So the one thing that McCarthy did

682
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: not do last week was throw the football away. And

683
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: we're already minus one tonight, so not a great start.

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Speaker 1: That's I wanted. Why am I like this?

685
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Speaker 2: I kind of hoped they were just, oh my god,

686
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: here we go again. I wanted their reaction to be

687
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: a lot more visceral and less professional than it was,

688
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: because all their basically did is describe that situation. But

689
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: you know what, I know that the average Vikings room

690
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: fan was thinking, here we go again.

691
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Speaker 1: Man, we had our.

692
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: Nice little, we had our cute, see little victory over

693
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Washington last week, and now we're back to reality, especially

694
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: when later well it was on that drive, was it

695
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: not the that the we held them to fourth down

696
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: and then they try the the fake field, fake field

697
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: go three plays later basically or fourth place and flip

698
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: and then they ended up with a touchdown on that drive? Correct, Yes,

699
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: although it wasn't that drive. Didn't we also stop them

700
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: on like fourth and one? Or was that a different drive?

701
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: I can't remember they ended up scoring, I can't remember.

702
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly we defended that every blade of grass

703
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: is the head coach likes to say, here's a talk,

704
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: but this is a question I'd love to ask Chris

705
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 2: Carter right now, here's a talker for you, Dan. Where

706
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: does McCarthy rank currently on the list of quarterbacks that

707
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: have played for the Vikings? Something you could track as

708
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: he hopefully ascends up the list. Be a great question

709
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: for Chris Carter today. He might lose his mind on it.

710
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: This seems like this seems a little bit vicious to me.

711
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: Big surprise. Barrero is a fan of a salty, petulant

712
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: former athlete who labels current athletes as those guys while

713
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: attacking their winning percentage and winning performance.

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00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: I should say shocking. Believe this or don't.

715
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Speaker 2: I am a fan of him because he speaks his mind.

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00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: I think he's being harsher than necessary this week. I

717
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't have picked this week to go as far as

718
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: Chris Carter did.

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Speaker 1: But I just like that. I mean, I think, even by.

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Speaker 2: Chris Carter standards, that would be considered a surprising series

721
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Speaker 2: of answers today.

722
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Speaker 1: I like surprising.

723
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Speaker 2: I like, you know, whatever you think you're supposed to

724
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: say or whatever, Well, this is really what you're supposed

725
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: to say about JJ Mccartthey after these two games, he

726
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: didn't give a damn.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate the willingness.

728
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: And again, he's got his biases just like everybody else.

729
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: You don't even have to knowcessarily agree with him. But

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Speaker 2: who gives us more to bounce off of over the

731
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Speaker 2: years than Carter And I'll tell you the truth, A

732
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: lot of times I tend to agree with the sentiment

733
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Speaker 2: as unpopular or as unsettling uncomfortable as some of those

734
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: opinions might well make you as well. CC is a clown.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's in the Hall of Fame

736
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: or not. Sounds like he needs a fall guy for

737
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 2: his podcast interview. So this isn't JJ McCarthy. This isn't

738
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: a burner account for JJ McCarthy's quarterbacks coach right who

739
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: called him aclown member?

740
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is that? Does he listen to the show?

741
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: What's his area code? The six one two?

742
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: I doubt he's Chicago based, although your phone can be

743
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: from anywhere. Learned that, yeah for sure, I mean it's

744
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 2: there's you could have had that a while.

745
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: For example.

746
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: I think Sam Mitchell's cell is still a six to

747
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: one to them. It is, I'm not mistake it is.

748
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: So answer your question about the first Vikings talking point

749
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: brought to you. Buck that out already, the insurance. Yes, you

750
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: may not believe me, and I might be in the minority,

751
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: but when bad things happen that early, you almost think that,

752
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: I know, you're not that bothered. I'm not that bothered.

753
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: You chuckle about it because you hear PA. Pa hasn't

754
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: even set up the broadcast yet. You know, he's got

755
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: all these notes that he wants to get in before,

756
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: which is what a good play by Plaguy does.

757
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: So he's setting up the whole thing.

758
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: And here's who's in here, here's who's out, Here's some

759
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: stats you need to know, here's some trends that we're

760
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: thinking about. He hasn't even been able to do that

761
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: to get to like page two, and the Vikings have

762
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: already turned it over. And then where I did, where

763
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: I will admit a little bit of weakness, was the

764
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: fake field goal on that drive where you stopped. That's

765
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: a great call by them, by the way, I mean,

766
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 2: that's really good coaching to just say, well, how would

767
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: you even describe It's like a did he flip it

768
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: over his shoulder?

769
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Speaker 1: How would you describe it? Flip? By the holder.

770
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Speaker 2: He just flipped behind him over his shoulders. He kind

771
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: of shot put it. It was like a flip, Like

772
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Speaker 2: you said, it's nicely done. Bursige nailed it that they

773
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: went to the zay Roj side because Isaiah Rodgers is

774
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: always crashing hard and fake field goals are very rare

775
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, and you don't see him

776
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: very much a lot of times because they don't work.

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00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: Our last fake field goal took place.

778
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Speaker 2: During the Bud Grant era. I believe pretty close. Pa

779
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: did have that nugget on Twitter. Eight. Yes, somebody threw

780
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: it to Jeff Dugan. I do remember that all that stament. Okay,

781
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: I think it was twenty seventeen, but that's when I

782
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: started going, all right, what are we doing? Guys like yeah,

783
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: at least pay attention. But credit to the defense. They

784
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: did hang on as long as they possibly could until

785
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: they ended up in the end zone. But I when

786
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 2: early stuff happens like that, there's still so much time

787
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Speaker 2: that as long as you put together some type of

788
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: response at some point, which they did, you can usually make.

789
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Speaker 1: Up for it.

790
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Speaker 2: Let me get to maybe one or two quick texts

791
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: as well. I don't know who hurt Chris Carter, but

792
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: is constant whining and over the top opinions are just

793
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: so lame? Why because you disagree with them? Why are

794
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: they lame? Because they're not standard? Because he doesn't always

795
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: say what the politely he's supposed to say, I understand

796
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: what the issue. And by the way, yes, Chris Carter

797
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: is in the Hall of Fame pretty easily. I was

798
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: he first ballot.

799
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Speaker 1: I don't remember.

800
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: I don't know about the ballot he was. It's that

801
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: he's he's not borderline. He was a slam dunk Hall

802
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 2: of Fame entrant. Now where I think he probably hurt

803
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: himself a little bit was because I asked him about

804
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: this and he said, this isn't an Ohio state. Michigan

805
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: think it's some of my some of my favorite players

806
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: played at Michigan, including Charles Woodson. But when he starts it,

807
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: when he characterizes it the way he did today in

808
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: that interview with who was it with k Adams, it

809
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: comes off a little bit like I was Michigan guys

810
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: like that. How many other Michigan guys have been, you know,

811
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: have spoken the way JJ has? I don't even know

812
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: very many have any others done all through egos. Brady

813
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: did think Charles Woodson did Charles Woodson didn't know. Yeah,

814
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: I don't think so. But that's probably where he hurts

815
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: himself just a little bit. But I think the lesson

816
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 2: to me is we've got we still gotta see more.

817
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: We're seeing some positive signs for sure, but we got

818
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: to see we can't. We can't go crazy and act

819
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: like all's well and all's right with the world. Not

820
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: enough has happened yet, especially when your factor in you

821
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: played two really really crappy defenses back to back, albeit

822
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: the second one on the road Dallas, Texas. Let's come

823
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: back and chat with Nacho. He was there for all

824
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: of it. We'll get Lieber's view if you have questions

825
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: for him. They Brat show on Brian Caffe and text

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Speaker 2: line is six for six a