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Speaker 3: all right, how so, well, we got three major issues

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Speaker 4: We got. We got three major issues here on the show.

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Speaker 4: All right, all right? Uh.

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Speaker 3: The first major issue is Jackson Felts picking the Rams

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Speaker 3: We got people outside the radio station lighting up to

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Speaker 3: kick his ass as we speak right now. Second issue,

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Speaker 3: Second issue, Dick Fane saying that it was fear mongering

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Speaker 3: all week long with the injury report with Charles Cross

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Speaker 3: that's brought up now, which I wasn't gonna bring up till.

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Speaker 4: Later, but I'll bring it up now.

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Speaker 3: Dick Fane is wearing a mount Rainier Rams pullover as

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Speaker 3: He's coaching a high school game tonight, and apparently he

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Speaker 7: He gets off on that one Wow, he's not going

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Speaker 7: If I didn't like you so much, i'd be bootstomping

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Speaker 7: you on this topic. Like, okay, amazing to see if

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Speaker 5: It's it's whether we decide to put the sensationalistic negative

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Speaker 4: I have some worry.

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Speaker 3: Are you are you better off doing I guess one

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Speaker 7: I just think, you know, my opinion, I think that

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Speaker 7: Canine has always been the better runner between he and

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Speaker 7: four years where I've said, Okay, Zach Charbonnay was the

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Speaker 3: But as Dick and I were talking earlier, I think

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Speaker 3: a chance that they might be better off giving more

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Speaker 4: There's a chance.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's denied an opportunity to be part of

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Speaker 7: He's got to have an entire offseason rehab like that sucks,

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Speaker 7: When I was in Denver and Terrell Davis was the halfback,

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Speaker 7: Here's the thing. What Gibbs says, cannot take a loss.

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Speaker 7: Why is that important to the Seahawks. That guy who

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Speaker 4: You see it hitting faster. So now what have they done.

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Speaker 5: Hugh. If it wasn't for the two games against the Rams,

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Speaker 4: Yards on a pick six. That was it was it was.

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Speaker 7: the running back, they are running a running play. The

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Speaker 7: quarterback after the ball is snap decides what he does now.

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Speaker 4: Ninety nine p.

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Speaker 7: RPOs are from shot but on this case it's under

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Speaker 7: center and Stafford there were I think it was inside

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Speaker 7: zone to the right, or maybe mid zone to the right,

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Speaker 7: but the line, everybody's going to the right, and Stafford

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Speaker 7: takes one step to his right. All the flow goes

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Speaker 7: to the right, and then he just stops again from

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Speaker 7: under center, not shotgun, and he throws this little slant

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Speaker 7: from a from Adams emanating in.

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Speaker 4: A spot really close to the ball.

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Speaker 7: And I've looked at the entire red zone tape that

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Speaker 7: he that he hasn't And you know, as I said,

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Speaker 7: it's eight of the excuse me, ten of those touchdowns

449
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Speaker 7: inside the seven. It's the split that gets me in

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Speaker 7: my manner.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's do this because I want to come back.

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Speaker 3: And this is obviously the third time these teams have

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Speaker 3: seen each other this season. Obviously I saw a factoid

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Speaker 3: that when division opponents see each other for a third

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Speaker 3: time in the playoffs, the home team is fifteen and

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Speaker 3: five in the previous twenty games. And this is the

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Speaker 3: twenty first time it's going to happen. So who really

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Speaker 3: does have the advantage here in this thing? The defenses

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Speaker 3: against the quarterbacks and the quarterbacks against the defense. They're

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Speaker 3: gonna ask you that next on ninety three three KJRFM.

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Speaker 1: This is Duke of Duke Seafood and this hour is

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463
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464
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Speaker 8: I actually think I'm here less. I wish some of

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Speaker 8: us our coaches took that as well. But you know,

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Speaker 8: on Thursdays, you know, I don't get to see Jack

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Speaker 8: throughout the week as much. So Thursday as I try

470
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Speaker 8: to get home pretty quick to like to be with

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Speaker 8: him for maybe a half hour hour before he goes

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Speaker 8: to bed, and then I got to set up at

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Speaker 8: my house where I can go and then I work

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Speaker 8: on the game plan. But it's able to spend more

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Speaker 8: time at home and be with Jack, and also it

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Speaker 8: kind of lets you kind of get away from everything

477
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Speaker 8: and kind of see it thinks from a different perspective,

478
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Speaker 8: and it keeps you fresh, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, the voice of Mike McDonald. I think that was

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Speaker 4: when with King five.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken talking about how little Hugh he

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Speaker 3: gets to see his kid during the week. I mean

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Speaker 3: that's why, you know, coaches and players are so despondent,

484
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Speaker 3: as you know, after a loss, because you put everything

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Speaker 3: you've got during a week into a game and then

486
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Speaker 3: to not come out with a win just sucks the

487
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Speaker 3: soul out of you, man, for sure. So I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing all these different things, you know, coming out

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Speaker 3: of LA that, you know, Jared versus saying that, hey,

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Speaker 3: things feel different down here, and meantime in Seattle it

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Speaker 3: kind of feels like, you know, just status quo. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you tell me, how much do you change this week?

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Speaker 3: If you're Mike McDonald, you think before this game in preparation.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think you changed what you did last week

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Speaker 7: or last time you played the Rams when they dropped

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Speaker 7: a five eighty burger, Right, don't you change that? I mean,

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Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of ways you can you

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Speaker 7: can defend Pooka differently, and and you know, somehow you've

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Speaker 7: got to You got to find a way to stemy

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Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford more than you did obviously. But you know,

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Speaker 7: I think there's some numbers prior to Thanksgiving the Rams

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Speaker 7: defense at sixteen points a game, they were number one

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Speaker 7: in the NFL. Seattle was seventh at that time. Since then,

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Speaker 7: the Rams have fallen to twenty fifth. They've given up

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Speaker 7: ten point three more points per game. They've gone from

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Speaker 7: sixteen to twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: Essentially.

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Speaker 7: Seattle meanwhile, has gone from nineteen point seven to eleven

509
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Speaker 7: point They've had an eight point one drop. The Rams

510
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Speaker 7: have had a ten point three rise. You're talking about

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Speaker 7: net eighteen point four point and that's a lot of points.

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Speaker 7: You know, when you start saying, how are these teams

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Speaker 7: playing right now? You know, so I think there's some

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Speaker 7: there's some good numbers when you look at how things

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Speaker 7: are developing, Seattle playing at home, they're certainly a component

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Speaker 7: of this that. Look at how the Rams have had

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Speaker 7: to play emotional games that you know, they go to Atlanta,

518
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Speaker 7: they couldn't beat the Falcons when they were playing for

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Speaker 7: their seed. They lose to Carolina when they were playing

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Speaker 7: for the number one seed, and then they barely win

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Speaker 7: the playoff game. I just you know, the Chicago you know,

522
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Speaker 7: close game that that that's taken a lot of emotional

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Speaker 7: you know, your emotional tank, your physical tank, and your

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Speaker 7: emotional tank. I think I think that that wears on you,

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Speaker 7: you know. I guess the flip side is that they're

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Speaker 7: grizzled and they're used to being in close games more

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Speaker 7: than Seattle. But but there's again a model where you

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Speaker 7: get up by ten points in this game in the

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Speaker 7: third quarter, and you could run away from this with

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Speaker 7: this one. You could you could turn it into a

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Speaker 7: twenty one, twenty four point win. Now, I think that's

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Speaker 7: less than fifty percent chance, but it's possible.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just looking at the plays defended you

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Speaker 5: one hundred and forty five against sixty for these teams

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Speaker 5: in the last couple of weeks. It's a lot of

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Speaker 5: you mentioned defending Puka differently that last game. I mean,

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Speaker 5: just such an anomaly. Maybe it was because it was

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Speaker 5: Thursday nights. These GET teams only had three days rest.

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Speaker 5: How much did that make a difference? And how do

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Speaker 5: you defend Puka differently so he doesn't get a billion yards?

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Speaker 8: Again?

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Speaker 7: Well, you look at down down there in La there's

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Speaker 7: Pooka had four catches over ten yards, but none of

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Speaker 7: those four catches were even twenty yards. Right now that

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Speaker 7: you come up to Seattle, you have the same number

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Speaker 7: four catches over ten yards, but all four of those

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Speaker 7: were over twenty five yards, So is really the four

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Speaker 7: big plays and and I'll focus on the fifty eight

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Speaker 7: yard or the one that had the most That would you, guys,

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Speaker 7: you guys have heard me talk about Mike McDonald a lot.

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Speaker 7: What would you would it be fair to say that,

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Speaker 7: I'm I'm a pro Mike McDonald guy.

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Speaker 3: Nah, even butzering his balls shows he was.

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Speaker 4: I found it to be a professional to be honest.

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Speaker 4: Yes you are, you're absolutely Mike McDonald.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, this morning, and I'll repeat it this morning, I said,

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Speaker 7: what what what the Seahawks did on that fifty eight

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Speaker 7: yard or is coaching malpractice? Because what they they did

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Speaker 7: with Pooka Nakool He's on Matthew Stafford's right aligned in

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Speaker 7: the slot and they essentially played cover zero. I mean,

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Speaker 7: they had two guys as whole players, but they were

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Speaker 7: over on the other side of the field. So Kobe

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Speaker 7: Bryant was, you know, just an off coverage with the

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Speaker 7: worst possible assignment because the balls on this In this

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Speaker 7: he's in the slot, there's a lot of grass to

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Speaker 7: the outside of Bryant, so he has to worry about

568
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Speaker 7: speed cut, not just comeback cuts, but speed cuts because

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Speaker 7: the split is narrow. But he also has to worry

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Speaker 7: about verticals crossing his face in in routes, et cetera.

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Speaker 7: That's essentially like playing one on one drill in training camp.

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Speaker 7: And if you've got Matthew Stafford and Puka Nakula, there's

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Speaker 7: not a corner in this league that can handle that.

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Speaker 7: Not a corner in this league. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 7: for effect or to be hyperbolic. No, Christian Gonzalez, Patrick Sutan, Nope,

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Speaker 7: Dion Sanders, nobody can cover on that play given that

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Speaker 7: much time. And so Kobe Bryant got matched up. He's

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Speaker 7: the guy who goes down in the books, is getting beat.

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Speaker 7: Puka comes up free access, no redirect at the line

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Speaker 7: of scrimmage. Seattle misguidedly was redirecting on the opposite slot

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Speaker 7: who happened to be a rookie tight end. They were

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Speaker 7: jamming him. They didn't jam Pooka. Nods to the corner.

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Speaker 7: What did I say at the beginning, Because of the split,

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Speaker 7: Kobe Bryant had to honor the speed.

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Speaker 4: Cut to the outside.

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Speaker 7: Nods to the outside, crosses his face, easy post fifty

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Speaker 7: eight yards later.

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Speaker 4: Like that is horrible.

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Speaker 7: And I could count on probably two fingers the plays

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Speaker 7: that I thought Mike McDonald's been horrible because I love

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Speaker 7: the guy. I think he's brilliant. He's a genius. He's

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Speaker 7: the Isaac Newton of freaking coaching. You know, he's Mozart.

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Speaker 7: It's freaking Mozart boy genius. And yet Mozart on that

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Speaker 7: play hit a bad note with that, and he knows it.

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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald is an egolest guy.

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Speaker 9: He know.

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Speaker 7: Damn well, if by change, I know he's not listening

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Speaker 7: right now, but if somebody he knows is listening, they're

599
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Speaker 7: not I even right now and going yep, coach knew

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Speaker 7: how bad a defensive call that was?

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Speaker 4: So avoid that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, This is the third time

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Speaker 3: Stafford will see the dark side. Third time Sam Darnold's

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Speaker 3: gonna see the Rams defense, and vice versa. Who's got

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Speaker 3: the bigger advantage you think going into this game?

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Speaker 7: All right, all right, so we're gonna go behind the

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Speaker 7: curtain here and we're gonna tell people that you every

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Speaker 7: once in a while you have a question that you

609
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Speaker 7: told me this, Like on Tuesday, you're gonna ask me,

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Speaker 7: and you're reminded me probably on Thursday that you're gonna ask.

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Speaker 7: And I've thought about it probably every day, And here's

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Speaker 7: the alert. I'm this, this next minute or so is

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Speaker 7: gonna really be sucky radio worse than I normally stuck. Okay,

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Speaker 7: because I've been thinking about it for four days, Dick Vane, and.

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Speaker 4: I still don't know the damn answer. I think it's

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Speaker 4: it's roughly even.

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Speaker 7: Now, if you hold a gun to my head, I

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Speaker 7: would say that it's advantage for the defense for the

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Speaker 7: following reason. Because quarterbacks, as a general rule, they studied

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Speaker 7: the hell out of their opponents. They grasp it the

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Speaker 7: first time. As a general rule. I'm not saying there's

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Speaker 7: not exceptions. As a general rule that all the guys

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Speaker 7: on defense they don't study tape as hard as a

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Speaker 7: quarterback would. So the second time around for the defensive players,

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00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 7: now it starts to take a little bit hold and

626
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Speaker 7: gets more of their react not think type of thing

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Speaker 7: about the quarterback. So if you gun to my head,

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Speaker 7: I think it probably is advanced for the defense. But

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Speaker 7: honest to God, Dave, I think it's fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 7: I can't I can't give you, I can't give you

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Speaker 7: a solid opinion on that.

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Speaker 4: Let's get a break.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back and just talk about more details, what

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Speaker 3: we should be looking for, what your game plan would

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Speaker 3: look like on Sunday afternoon, Hugh.

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Speaker 4: And then maybe you'll do something you never do. Maybe

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Speaker 4: you'll make a prediction on this thing. Come about next

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Speaker 4: on ninety three to three KJRFM.

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Speaker 1: This is Duke of duke Seafood and this hour is

640
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Speaker 1: brought to you by Duke's Seafood. Why don't you make

641
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Speaker 1: it a Duke's Night tonight. Reserve your table today at

642
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR Fm'm gonna be incredible.

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Speaker 9: You know, I don't know how you taught last week,

645
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Speaker 9: but I'm sure the twelves will. You know, they always

646
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Speaker 9: bring it for us, and so we're excited for him.

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Speaker 6: If you guys are like debriefing on the sidelines in

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Speaker 6: between series, is it hard for you guys to.

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Speaker 9: Communicate it at times? At times, yeah, but there are

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Speaker 9: some moments. The fans might crush me for this, but

651
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 9: there are some moments when it dies down a little

652
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 9: bit to where we're able to communicate with each other.

653
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: All right, Sam Donald getting ready for his second a

654
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: third playoff game, Sorry, biggest game of his life, there's

655
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: no question about that.

656
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 6: Man.

657
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: On Sunday at three point thirty here the game of

658
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Speaker 3: Kevin Harlan Kurt Warner right here on ninety three to

659
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Speaker 3: three KJRFM, speaking of Kurt Warner. Kurt with a K

660
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: joined us yesterday, Kurt with a C. We'll join us

661
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Speaker 3: tonight at six pm on the radio show. Hu Mela

662
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: rejoins us for one more segment. Hue, this is the

663
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: segment you gotta shine man. This is the final time

664
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: we're going to talk before the game on Sunday. Baby, pressure, Yeah,

665
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: you got to deliver right here. So let's talk about

666
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: Sam Darnald, right, I mean we expect him to throw

667
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: a bit more than he did.

668
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 4: At the Niner game? How much more?

669
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: And what do you think is going through his brain

670
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: getting ready for this game on Sunday?

671
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: Man, Well, just a first.

672
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 7: Note about you know, all the chatter about him, Can

673
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 7: I just say this? In twenty twenty two was the

674
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 7: first time in his career he was drafted as a

675
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 7: twenty year old first time his career he didn't play

676
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 7: at a high ankle sprain missed eleven games, and you

677
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 7: could say he was benched or what have, he'd lost

678
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 7: a job. From week twelve on, that was Thanksgiving of

679
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 7: November of twenty twenty two. Since that time, he's had

680
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 7: forty three starts regular season and playoff. He's won thirty

681
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 7: three of them. He's thirty three and ten. That's a

682
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 7: seventy six point seven win percentage, first in all of

683
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 7: the NFL. Pat Mahomes is second at seventy three percent. Again,

684
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 7: seventy seven percent, seventy three And then one other stat

685
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 7: on that of those forty three starts, twenty six of

686
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 7: those he has had a one hund hundred or more

687
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 7: passer rating, which, by the way, perhaps surprisingly has a

688
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 7: very high correlation to winning twenty six or forty. So

689
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 7: that's sixty point five percent. That shows a consistency of

690
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 7: excellent play. That's number one in the NFL since Thanksgiving

691
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 7: of twenty twenty two. And so I don't know, I

692
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 7: don't get. This is in some ways the most confounding

693
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 7: criticism I've seen.

694
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: You ask about.

695
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 7: The aggression in the game plan, So Dick, I know

696
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 7: we've discussed this before, so let's let me see if

697
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Speaker 7: I can.

698
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 4: I tried the front door.

699
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 7: I'm gonna try the backdoor on r in terms of

700
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 7: running attempts and whether or that leads to tow wins.

701
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 7: Here's my take. Teams are not winning because they're running.

702
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 7: They're running because they're winning. And so if you take

703
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 7: from twenty twenty to twenty twenty five three thousand, three

704
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty games, you put that in a spreadsheet

705
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 7: with three thousand, three hundred and eighty rows, and you

706
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 7: got the win loss winter loss row. And if you

707
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 7: go first half rush attempts, there's a point one seventy

708
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 7: two correlation, pretty close to zero. But the second half

709
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 7: rush attempts is five sixty three, so that those numbers strong,

710
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 7: and I've given other numbers to make this case. I

711
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 7: think it's the biggest fallacy in football of my lifetime,

712
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 7: which is, oh, when so and such running back has

713
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 7: blank number of carries or more, then they win.

714
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 4: They win the game. Den Walker twelve and one in

715
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 4: his career.

716
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 7: Understand her half first half pass yards correlation is two

717
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 7: ninety eight, almost double. Let me give you some other

718
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 7: ones that are even more, the difference in yards per

719
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Speaker 7: attempt by the quarterback. Now we're going to five oh

720
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Speaker 7: four difference in passer rating. This relic from nineteen seventy.

721
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Speaker 7: It has a six point thirty three correlation to winning.

722
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 7: So like the idea that, okay, let's have a game

723
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Speaker 7: plan to reach a certain number of rushes because there's

724
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Speaker 7: such a high correlation to winning. No, you're you're running

725
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 7: because you're winning, and you'ressaulting the game way and by

726
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 7: the way, just kind of related to that. So much

727
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 7: about turn it over margin.

728
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 4: Is five to ten.

729
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 7: Ye, like, I can't run from that, But interception difference

730
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 7: is four thirty five. You guys tracking with me the

731
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 7: difference like because fumbles are part it. The reason interception

732
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 7: differential has a lower than turnover margin is because interception

733
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Speaker 7: differentials speak to the mindset of the quarterback. And let

734
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 7: me say again, the difference in yards per attempt has

735
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 7: a five h four correlation and interception differential as.

736
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: Four thirty five.

737
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Speaker 7: So in other words, going to the game and try

738
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Speaker 7: and win the yards per attempt and specifically try and

739
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 7: win the passer rating, which twenty five percent is interception percentage.

740
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 7: I'm not saying just go be willy nilly about interceptions.

741
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 7: But what's not yet, Henry? You got to make plays

742
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 7: in this.

743
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Speaker 5: League now, Hugh, I want you can be as granular

744
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 5: and as specific as you want in this question. What

745
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 5: is your biggest concern walking into this game as a

746
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawk fan?

747
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 4: Two? Can I say? Can I give two?

748
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 6: Yes?

749
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: You can? Okay.

750
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 7: I think that there's been the four games of Seattle

751
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 7: rushing which has been incredible. They they are what whate's

752
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 7: seventy three per game? I know they're fourth in the NFL.

753
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 7: They've cranked it up in their yards per tempt. I

754
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 7: is four games enough. I just I close my eyes

755
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 7: and I go. If we're having trouble blocking, that's going

756
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 7: to be a problem.

757
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: And then the.

758
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 7: Other part is the pass rush against against Sam Darnold,

759
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 7: because you got Brian Young at twelve and a half

760
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 7: sacks and Kobe Turner number ninety one. Grey's Abel has

761
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 7: said his two worst games are against the Rams, right,

762
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 7: and the guy who's giving him the trouble is ninety one,

763
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 7: a bowling ball type guy, Kobe Turner.

764
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: The sacks and the pressures.

765
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 7: So so that's that's a big concern for me and

766
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 7: then and then I guess as the third, I would say, uh,

767
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 7: not getting pressure on Matthew Stafford. I don't think Seattle's

768
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 7: going to cover well enough. I think that Matthew Stafford

769
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 7: is too good throwing the football. And then as well

770
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 7: as Seattle covers and tackles, Stafford is too good throwing

771
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 7: and and the and the receivers are too good to

772
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 7: just think you're gonna win by covering. I think defending

773
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 7: them has got to be more on Matthew Stafford's side

774
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 7: of the line of scrimmage in the past rush than

775
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 7: it is on the Seahawks side of the line of

776
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 7: scrimmage in coverage.

777
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 4: Does that make sense? Yeah?

778
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well what happens on Sunday? I mean

779
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: you and you're ou don't make prediction stuff I don't make.

780
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: That's fine. You don't want to make a prediction like

781
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: us A skull twenty four twenty one, say, just tell

782
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: us what are we about to see on Sunday?

783
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 6: Here?

784
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 7: Here's here's what I'd say. I believe that there are

785
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 7: five phases that are about equal. How you run it,

786
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 7: how you throw it, how you defend the run, how

787
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 7: you defend the pass. And special teams. I think they're

788
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 7: all about twenty percent. I think without reviewing the numbers.

789
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 7: I got them all in front of me, and I've

790
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 7: watched the tape. I think Seattle's better than four of those.

791
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 7: I think they have a four to one advantage pass

792
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 7: offense the only one nine pass. Yeah, clearly, Matthew Stafford

793
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 7: is a better quarterback than Sam Donald. And I'm damn

794
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 7: bullish on Sam Do. I've been a big defender of

795
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 7: him and what have you. But I'm not going to

796
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 7: sit here and lose my senses and tell you that

797
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 7: Sam Donald today is as good as Matthew Stafford is today.

798
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 7: Just not going to say that. So the Rams clearly

799
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 7: have that advantage of the passing offense goes to the Rams.

800
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 7: All the other advantages, particularly when you when you you know,

801
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 7: weigh it towards recency. And I don't mean like last week.

802
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 7: I mean I mean since Thanksgiving. This since Thanksgiving, the

803
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 7: Rams are I even three the Sea extra seven to zero.

804
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 7: And so so if I put more weight into the recency,

805
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 7: which is reasonable, I cannot come up with anything other

806
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 7: than Seattle as a four to one advantage. And they're

807
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 7: playing at home and they're rested, and and I do

808
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 7: under my final thought, I think that the rest helps Seattle.

809
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 7: There is a slight little concern that in a close game,

810
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 7: the Rams, even though they've kicked some of these Atlanta

811
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 7: North or Carolina Panthers blah blah blah, they at least

812
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 7: are more that they have been week after week in

813
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 7: these close situations, you know, where it's down to three

814
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 7: minutes and and it's within a field goal either way.

815
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 7: So they're a little bit more hardened in terms of

816
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 7: recent experience of being in close games. That that's a

817
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 7: little bit of a concern. But I think that's outweighed,

818
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 7: of course by Seattle being rested.

819
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: Well, if we've learned one thing from you today, if

820
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: the front door is not available, take the back door.

821
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try them back toor on.

822
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, pal, never forget that ever, ever, ever,

823
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: it's always good to have options.

824
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: Man, you're find the kids are eating dinner, listening. Oh god,

825
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 4: all right, I love it. Have fun. Let's go join after. Yeah,

826
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: you guys are.

827
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 6: On the air.

828
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 4: Winn or lose, man, win or the house. We're going

829
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: a lot longer if we win, though, I'll tell you

830
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 4: that by the way.

831
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: Let me, uh, if I tell you we have sixty seconds,

832
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: can you give me a sixty second answer?

833
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 4: Is that possible? There's one thing I can do in

834
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 4: sixty seconds.

835
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that okay, that's gonna

836
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: be fun. The Rams defensive in the red zone thirteen

837
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 3: of sixty eight percent in the last six games. They're

838
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: giving up touchdowns like people hand out Halloween candy in

839
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 3: the red zone. Does that maybe force Koobeak and McDonald

840
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 3: sixty seconds or less?

841
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe take some chances down there. Fourth down.

842
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 7: They have been way too conservative in the red zone

843
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 7: on the run pass. They run the ball in and

844
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 7: they for much of the season they were like two

845
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 7: point two yards per play running on first down. That's

846
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 7: just not good enough. So to me, yes, let's go

847
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 7: play pass and not have like double stick. Double stick

848
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 7: is all four receivers are within six yards of the

849
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 7: line of scrimmage. No, no, let's let's send two or

850
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 7: three guys to the end zone and tell Sam Darnold

851
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 7: touchdown or check down. Give him a couple of shots,

852
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 7: love it so that the next play is a pat

853
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 7: If he doesn't like it, hey, just check it down.

854
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 4: We'll live on second down. So yeah, I'd like to

855
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 4: be a little bit more aggressive down there. Let's go.

856
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn it back to run, right, you're the man,

857
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: great stuff?

858
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 6: All right, Well say night.

859
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: All right here mellins with us. Kurt Warner with a

860
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 3: c former Seahawks riding back. What does he think the

861
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: Seahawks will do without Charbonnet on Sunday. We'll talk to

862
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 3: Kurt Warner next. On ninety three to three kJ rff

863
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: Waterer with.

864
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: One thousand and forty two yards coming into this game,

865
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: had some.

866
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 7: More darl and he opens up an offense so much

867
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 7: just by his abilities.

868
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: Right into the run.

869
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 6: Okay, Warner touchdown, twenty eight yards. Kurt Warner one of

870
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 6: the most exciting running backs to come into the NFL.

871
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: Before Marshawn, before Shawn Alexander, before Chris Carson, and before

872
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 3: Ricky Waters.

873
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: There was a guy.

874
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 3: There was a man, and that man wore number twenty

875
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 3: eight for the Seahawks. I still have those numbers from

876
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 3: eighty three, fourteen, and forty nine burned into my brain

877
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 3: as a rookie when him and the Seahawks gave us

878
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 3: our first real taste of NFL playoff football.

879
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: And went to the AFC Championship.

880
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: A multiple time Dick, multiple time Pietro's Pizza Seahawks Player

881
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: of the Week Kurt Warner, that's Kurt, were the same,

882
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: by the way, the og Kurt Warners shoining us on

883
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 3: the radio program, Kurt Warner, how are you, man?

884
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 6: I'm great. Thanks for the introduction. You guys are so nice.

885
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 6: I love it. Thank you very much.

886
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: Jeck Well, I guess look all that stuff that I

887
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 3: said about you, it just means one thing.

888
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: We're freaking old, man. That's what that means. For trying

889
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: out loud. I mean, we're talking about forty three years

890
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: ago for crying out loud. It's unbelievable how much time

891
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 4: has passed.

892
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: But what do you make of this current version of

893
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: Seahawks football?

894
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: Kurt, Let's start there and just get your thoughts.

895
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 3: On the job that Mike McDonald's done turning this thing

896
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: around in just two quick years on the job.

897
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: Man.

898
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 6: Well, defense, defense, and defense, and that's what we're seeing

899
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 6: with regards to just the overall factor that comes into play.

900
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 6: You got to be able to play defense, and you've

901
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 6: got to be able to play it very well. Secondly,

902
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 6: I like the running game as well. They're running the

903
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 6: ball well, they're taking time off the clock, they're doing

904
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 6: things that calls in the other teams, the other defensive

905
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: teams to take notice that the Seahawks can run the football.

906
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 6: And then they got to play action. You got quarterback

907
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 6: who's a very accurate thrower, so you take some of

908
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 6: the pressure off of him, you give it a little

909
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 6: play action fake boom, you go down the field. It's

910
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 6: it's it's it's kind of similar to, uh, that same

911
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 6: type of team, but a few years ago that that

912
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 6: played in a Super Bowl a couple times and won one.

913
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 6: But it seems to be that same formula that seems

914
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 6: to be working for the Seahawks.

915
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 5: Kurt I heard Greg co Sell in one of the

916
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 5: national shows today talking about Ken Walker and how at

917
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 5: the beginning of the season, really the first half of

918
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 5: the season, he was kind of a jazz musician. He

919
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 5: was always improvising, always trying to find holes that maybe

920
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 5: weren't there, and he's kind of turned into a just

921
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 5: one cut downhill, let's get my five six yards running back.

922
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 5: How hard is that to kind of shift in over

923
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 5: the course of the year, and that is is that

924
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 5: just a directive from the coaches, Hey, you gotta stop

925
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 5: dancing and just hit the hole.

926
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 6: I think it's a combination of of a number of things,

927
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 6: but I yeah, I would say, you know, and reminiscent

928
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 6: when I had a guy by the name of Joe

929
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 6: Paterno coaching me back then. That was one of the

930
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 6: things that he said to me quite often. Get up

931
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 6: the field, don't sit here and lollygag around. Just go straight,

932
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 6: get your four or five six yards. Then Chuck Knox,

933
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 6: you know, you know, Chuck says, hey, you know, run

934
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 6: with he ain't He said, the ball ain't heavy, and

935
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 6: run the daylight. That was Chuck Knox. And that's pretty

936
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 6: much what I did. So when I got the football,

937
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 6: I had to get down the field. And you in

938
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 6: the NFL, you don't have time to go laterally, it's

939
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 6: just not there. You gotta run straight, you gotta make

940
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 6: your move, and you gotta get up the field. Yeah.

941
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: Well, it's incredible how much this thing has changed though,

942
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: Like you said, man, you know, in just the even

943
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: the last decade or so from the last time the

944
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: Seahawks won a championship. But Kurt Warner is with US

945
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 3: former Seahawks running back Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner with a

946
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: K was on the radio show yesterday. Kurt Warner with

947
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: a C is on the radio show today, and Kurt,

948
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 3: I'm wondering how you would handle Zach Sharbonay not being

949
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: available for the Seahawks on Sunday. You know, they they've

950
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: caught up Halani obviously, they've had some other guys that

951
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: could carry the ball. But is this a game where you,

952
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: simply put would just think about asking for more from

953
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 3: Kenny Walker.

954
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 6: Yeah. I need more from him, and I need more

955
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 6: from the other guys, but I'm going to put the

956
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 6: most of the load on on Kenny Walker without a doubt.

957
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 6: So he's the guy, He's been the guy, and we

958
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 6: this is a one game type thing. Everything is excusing,

959
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 6: h everything is on the line, and we're talking Super Bowl.

960
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 6: So you've got to play and you got to play

961
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 6: the whole game if need be. That would be my

962
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 6: position on it.

963
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 4: Love it, Seahawks legend Kurt Warner joining us.

964
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 5: Kurt, you played with a quarterback that was very doubted.

965
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 5: He was doubted by everybody, and all he did was

966
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: turn himself into a pro bowler and an all time

967
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 5: great Seattle Seahawk.

968
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: The Seahawks are.

969
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: Playing with a quarterback that was highly drafted, but he's

970
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 5: been doubted by everybody too. What kind of similarities do

971
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 5: you see in that situation versus is the one you

972
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 5: saw with Dave Craig forty years ago.

973
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, not much. I mean every quarterback. There's one thing

974
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 6: I will say about quarterbacks, and you could you can

975
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 6: take it for what's worth, but every quarterback that I've

976
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 6: been around had somewhat of an ego, and the ego

977
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 6: is to play extremely well, and they're the leader, and

978
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 6: they lead the team regardless, and you go with them

979
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 6: one way or the other. It doesn't matter how bad

980
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 6: they're playing. They're still the guys. And when they're playing well,

981
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 6: we're all playing well. And when they're not playing well,

982
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 6: you know what, we got to support him and try

983
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 6: to make up the difference on other ends. But no,

984
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 6: I would say not. I would say, hey, you know,

985
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 6: this is a one game kind of deal. I need

986
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 6: everybody to play their best game today, period. Forget all

987
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 6: the other stuff. We don't need to worry about what

988
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 6: happened during the season. We don't need to worry about

989
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 6: what happened last week. All we need to worry about

990
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 6: right now is today Sunday, when it's time to play.

991
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 6: That's really what it's gonna come down to. We were

992
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 6: there in eighty three and unfortunately the Raiders they put

993
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 6: us in our place. They played a better game than

994
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 6: we did. They mentally were ready to go. And I

995
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 6: think that was a great lesson for us at the

996
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 6: particular at that time, ye is to understand how just

997
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 6: how that whole thing works. It becomes a mental game

998
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 6: at this level, and you could throw all the other stuff,

999
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 6: you know, out the door. It's gonna be monoy mono,

1000
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 6: and let's go at it. Wow, And that made the

1001
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 6: best team win.

1002
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kurt warners with us and Kurt, I'm glad that

1003
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: you brought up that eighty three championship game against the Raiders.

1004
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: That was your your third playoff game obviously that year,

1005
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 3: and this will be Mike McDonald's second playoff game ever

1006
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: as a head coach on Sunday. I mean, heck man,

1007
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: Sean McVay kerk turns forty tomorrow and he's about to

1008
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: coach in a sixteenth playoff game. It's wild how many

1009
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: playoff games this guy has already been a part of.

1010
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 4: And I'm just wondering does that matter? Does that matter

1011
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: on game day?

1012
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 3: Honestly, like, like from a tangible perspective, the fact that

1013
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: McDonald's coaching his second playoff game and mcveigh's coaching his sixteenth.

1014
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 3: How big of an advantage, if any, does that give

1015
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: the Rams on Sunday in your mind?

1016
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 6: Well, I not really. I don't think that much because

1017
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 6: if you look at his history and look at his

1018
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 6: history with the Ravens, they were in contention, contention most

1019
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 6: of the time, right, So he understands the playoffs side

1020
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 6: of it. And now he's just he's coaching, and he

1021
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 6: still understands that side of it. So I don't know

1022
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 6: if I would Is that gonna be a big difference.

1023
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't think so. And Plus they're

1024
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 6: playing at home and that the Seahawks crowd is gonna

1025
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 6: they're gonna be nuts, it's going to be loud, and uh,

1026
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 6: you know, the twelves are gonna show up, and believe

1027
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 6: you me that that helps immensely when you're all you know,

1028
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 6: when you've got everything going in the right direction, that

1029
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 6: you're at home, that's the edge. I think that's one

1030
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 6: of the edge that's the big edge.

1031
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 4: We're going to have, no question about it.

1032
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 5: I'm looking back at your career and it looks like

1033
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 5: you only had to play three road games in a

1034
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 5: row one time, and that was the end of the

1035
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 5: ninety seven season, but eighty seven season rather, But how

1036
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 5: hard is that going to be on the Rams having

1037
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 5: to play three road games in three weeks, where the

1038
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 5: Seahawks have played just two games total, both at home,

1039
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 5: in three weeks.

1040
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 6: Well, it comes down to the experience of the Rams

1041
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 6: and the coaching and the understanding that's what they need

1042
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 6: to do, the prep. It's not easy to play three games,

1043
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 6: you know, under these type of conditions because it's all out.

1044
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 6: So so yeah, I wouldn't give the advantage to the

1045
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 6: Seahawks from that perspective. Uh and uh, you know, but

1046
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 6: you can't, you can't. You can't think that way that

1047
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 6: they're they're not going to be ready to go, because

1048
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 6: they're gonna be ready to go. Unfortunately for the for

1049
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 6: the Niners, they got uh they got beat up pretty

1050
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 6: good last week. Uh and uh, hopefully we can see

1051
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 6: the same results this time around.

1052
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1053
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 3: Well, Kurt Warner was with us, and uh, Kurt, before

1054
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: you go We're gonna find out what you're doing with

1055
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: your your broadcast career these days in a second. But

1056
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm just kind of wondering because we mentioned we had

1057
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: Kurt Warner with a K on the radio show with

1058
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 3: Mike Congrin yesterday. You ever go to like the Internet

1059
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: and like type for something on Google and it says.

1060
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 4: Hey, did you mean dot dot?

1061
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: I just put your name into Google with a C

1062
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: and it literally came back with results for the other

1063
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: guy with a K.

1064
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 4: Really, yes, I'm like, come on, man, have you ever

1065
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: met Kurt Warner with a K? By the way, you

1066
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: ever bump elbows with him?

1067
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 6: I have never met him, No, but I've talked to

1068
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 6: him on and it was kind of like, uh, we

1069
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 6: were we were interviewing. We were also on the same

1070
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 6: in the same marina, and we were having a discussion

1071
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 6: and I got a chance to stay high to him.

1072
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah did you did you remind him who the OG was?

1073
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 6: By the way? No, no, I didn't. I didn't go

1074
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 6: into that. I left.

1075
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 5: Well, Kurt, you're you're down there in Vancouver and your

1076
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 5: Camas at Camas High School. That is great to see

1077
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 5: the final score dot TV back and I'm helping out

1078
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 5: with Randy Novak on the Final score dot TV.

1079
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 4: Tell us what you're doing down there tonight. You've got

1080
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the state.

1081
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 5: Kid that spurned you Dubs, spurned Gonzaga and said I'm

1082
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: gonna go play at Iowa in six nine power forward

1083
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 5: Ethan Harris, you're watching that game tonight.

1084
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Speaker 6: Well, this is gonna be a fun event. I'm so

1085
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 6: glad that the final score is down down here and

1086
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 6: I get a chance to participate this. Guys at the

1087
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 6: high school level, you have community involvement and it's it's

1088
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 6: a good setting and it's Uh, I'm very proud to

1089
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 6: be a part of it.

1090
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Speaker 3: Well, if you're looking for something to do on a

1091
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: Friday night, man, it's right there for you. Forget making plans.

1092
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 3: I've already got you covered. So hey, listen, dude, great

1093
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 3: to hear your voice. Uh, enjoy the game on on Sunday.

1094
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: I do want to ask you real quick, as you

1095
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 3: mentioned Joe Paterno, did Jeroma Matter make the right move

1096
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: firing James Franklin, hiring Matt Campbell?

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Speaker 4: You think, what's your take on that?

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00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 6: I have no take on that one. Right now. You

1099
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 6: know there were some games that I thought we should

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00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 6: have won.

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00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't.

1102
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, And unfortunately, I think you know, as far as

1103
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 6: records are concerned, I mean, a very respectable record, but

1104
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 6: that's not a Penn State record. That's not what we're

1105
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 6: looking for when it comes to winning the national championships. Now,

1106
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Speaker 6: unfortunately we're dealing with Ohio State and at times Michigan

1107
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 6: and the other teams now Indiana who came out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: But you know, we we expect, we expect big, big wins,

1110
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Speaker 6: big games from from the Nitney Alliance.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, go get him, have fun tonight, enjoy

1113
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: the game Sunday, and we'll talk down the wrong Kurt

1114
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Speaker 3: appreciate it, man.

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Speaker 6: Okay, guys, thank you, Yeah you bet man.

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Speaker 3: Kurt Warner with us on the radio show. We had

1117
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 3: Kurt with a K yesterday, Kurt with a C today.

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00:54:59,560 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: So you name me a sports talk radio show in

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Speaker 3: America that will have both Kurt Warners on consecutive days.

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Speaker 4: This was the only one with the guts to actually

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Speaker 4: do it.