1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: On this next guest as we head off to the 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: KWI Commaspert Health Hotline and bring on legendary broadcaster commentator 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,079 Speaker 1: Jim Gray. Joining us here Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, and 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Benjamin Albright. Jim, thank you so much for the time. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: Man. 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 3: How are you. 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: I'm great, Dave, Ryan, Benjamin. How you doing. Dave? Great 8 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: to talk to you. 9 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you as well. Jimmy. 10 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 4: It's been uh, it's been a long time when you 11 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 4: when you think I was thinking about how long? 12 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: When you think about your career. 13 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 4: Which has been storied, and I mean such unbelievable length. 14 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 4: Are there two or three You've done boxing, You've done football, 15 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 4: You've done basketball. There really hasn't been a sport that 16 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 4: you haven't covered, or a topic or subject. I mean, 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 4: do you have a couple that that maybe mean more 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 4: to you, that you enjoyed more When you think about 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 4: your career. 20 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: I mean I look back with back on it, Dave, 21 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 2: and it's all been, you know, a whirlwind, and it's 22 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: been you know, I've been really fortunate and lucky. I'm 23 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: just a kid from Hudson Street. Yeah, we grew up, 24 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: you know, and I still here in my head and 25 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: I'm getting goosebumps. I'm actually getting goosebumps as I think 26 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: about this. The miracle has happened. The Broncos are going 27 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. Yeah, okay, So I'm thinking about that, 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: and I'm thinking about Floyd Littleby and carried Off as 29 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: a kid and my dad would take me out the 30 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 2: Bear Stadium and we sit on those wooden benches. So 31 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: it's all been fantastic. And I can hear Bob Martin 32 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: growing up in Kurky Owdy from NBC and from Wyoming 33 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: and so forth. So you know, you ask me, you know, 34 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: when you're at the Super Bowl, you don't think, well, boy, 35 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: i'd really rather be in Soul for the Olympics. 36 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 5: And when you're in. 37 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Soul for the Olympics, you're not thinking, well, I'd really 38 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: like to be at Augusta right now. So you know, 39 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: wherever you are, it's just been it's just been great. 40 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: And I've been lucky with the NBA and the NFL 41 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: and so many great boxing events, and you know, it's 42 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: just grateful really when I look back that the opportunity 43 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: that Channel nine gave me was JBTV back then became 44 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: ka USA and Roger Ogden and all those folks in Denver. 45 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: Mike Nolan, great treat mentor, and Dan Ryan and Bobby 46 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: Anderson and those guys were at Corey McPherrin. They were 47 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: so great to me as a kid. You know, if 48 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: they'd have been mean and rude, I probably would have been, 49 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: you know, welling time for at and T or something. 50 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'd have been doing. But they 51 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: were just great, really patient people and made me laugh 52 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: and made me better. And so it's just been great. 53 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen what's going on with you since 54 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: your days at CU and coming up through Larry's immer 55 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: and all that, and I was just look at this, 56 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: Look at what happens. 57 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: You know, that's right. 58 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: Just look at what happens, and you keep working hard 59 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: and you get lucky and you here, you are, here, 60 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: we are. 61 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 3: That's right. Hey, Jim. 62 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: I've always loved your interview style, and I'd love to know, 63 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: like who you learned from to get that style or 64 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: is that something you just sort of developed over time 65 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: and what would. 66 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: You attribute that to. 67 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: Well, when I was a video tape editor back in 68 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: the late seventies, seventy seven, seventy eight, when I got 69 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: hired as an intern and then a video tape editor 70 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: at Channel nine. They were converting from film to video 71 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: tape and all the union guys took the buyout. They 72 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 2: didn't want to learn a new press. So I would 73 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: sit in and edit the sports for Channel nine, you know, 74 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: for the news, and I would sit at the end 75 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: of the day and I would watch two people would 76 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: come on television, Ted Copple and Johnny Carson, and I 77 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: would watch them both, and they were both in different genres, 78 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: and they were both so proficient and brilliant. But what 79 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: I noticed is they could listen, thhink, and react all 80 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: in the blink of an eye. Listen, think, and react. 81 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: One was in comedy and one was in news. And 82 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: so I started to think, you know, perhaps if I 83 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: was ever going to do this and be an interview, 84 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: you got to be able to listen, think, and then 85 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: can you react in real time? And so I would 86 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: study them and watch them. When I say study them, 87 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: I would just watch them intently. I didn't, you know, 88 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: take notes or anything, but I just noticed that no 89 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: matter what the circumstance was, Johnny Carson always has something 90 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: that he was immediately ready with, not from an outline 91 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: or a rehearsed or memorized question, but from something that 92 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: was just said to him that was a natural follow 93 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: up at Copple was the exact same way on Nightline 94 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: and then with the Iran hostage crisis and so forth, 95 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: and I just say, wow, this is just marvelous. So 96 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: I would just spend that time in that editor after 97 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: the evening news and you know, get out of there 98 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: at like eleven o'clock because the news got off at 99 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: ten thirty, and then they would come on at the 100 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: same time. And that's kind of I don't know that 101 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: I patterned myself after them, because you know, they're so 102 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: great that nobody can pat it themselves after them. Otherwise 103 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: we have everybody being able to do it. But I 104 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: just kind of looked at that and I said, you know, 105 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: it's really fascinating how great they are. So just listen. 106 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 2: And my dad always told me my dad was my hero. 107 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: He's a great man. Loved Denver. And my dad always said, Jimmy, 108 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 2: your ears will never hurt you. So in other words, 109 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: pay attention and listen. So I kind of had that 110 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: lesson from when I was a little boy all the 111 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: way growing up, and so I just used my ears 112 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: and watch those other two and thought, perhaps if I 113 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: could do that, you better just listen really intently, and 114 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: then you have to know, you have to know the material. 115 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: And Bill Walton was so instructive to me. We spent 116 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: so many years together, and he used to always say 117 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: what what Coach Wooden would say to him failing to 118 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: prepare or preparing to fail Jim. And so after hearing 119 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: that six hundred and eighteen times within the course of 120 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: one week, thousands of time over the course of our 121 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: lives together, I thought, I just thought to myself, don't 122 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: ever be unprepared. Even if you don't Dave, you go 123 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: up and you do those games for see you and 124 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 2: the Broncos and so on and so forth. Percent of 125 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: it stays in your head and you never use it. 126 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, that five percent that. 127 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: You do use, you're ready with I obviously want to 128 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: talk a little bit about the Super Bowl, but I've 129 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: got to ask you a question. And I've known you 130 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: for a long long time, have great respect for you. 131 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 4: I've never asked this that the football and the basketball, 132 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: the baseball stuff all made sense to me. How did 133 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: you How did you first get into the box? 134 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: Seen game. How did that happen for you? 135 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: I was a video tape editor over there a Channel nine. 136 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: As we were just talking about Dave, and I was 137 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: in the in the station one night, early morning rather 138 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: at seven am, and I was editing the Broncos with 139 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: Red Miller show for Nolan and those guys. And I 140 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: was in early because they were getting ready for the draft. 141 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: And Muhammad Ali came into town. And when he came 142 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: into town at seven am, su Tous, who was the 143 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: news she was the head of the assignment death came 144 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: running in and she said, Jim, I know you know sports. 145 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: You were the sports intern. You edit all the sports 146 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: video tape. Go out and interview Muhammad Ali. He's two 147 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: and a half hours early at Stapleton International Airport and 148 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: he was getting ready to fight Leon Spinks. And after 149 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: Spinky was going to have an exhibition about against Lyle 150 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 2: Alzado and Mile High Stadium. And so I went out 151 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: there and I'd never done an interview. I was in 152 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: a you know, jeans and so forth, and I tried 153 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: to use the weatherman's coat. That stormy rotman was like 154 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: five foot two and so I couldn't fit into it. 155 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: So I just went out and my T shirt and 156 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: my I mean a golf shirt or whatever it was, 157 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: in jeans, and I asked Ali a question, and there 158 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: were thirty people in a room and he said, you're 159 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: doing this interview you don't even shave, and everybody laughed 160 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: just like that, and that really loosened me up. And 161 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: when that loosened me up, I was able then to, 162 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: you know, just be at ease. And by about the 163 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: fourth or fifth question, he said, you sound like the 164 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: local Howard Cosell. And I had never done an interview before. Wow, 165 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: But that compliment was the greatest compliment I'd ever had 166 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: in my life, because I grew up loving watching Howard 167 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: Kastell with all those Ali interviews and you know, all 168 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: the great things that he had done in his career 169 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: in boxing and Monday night football and so on and 170 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: so forth. 171 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 5: So I took the. 172 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: Interview back to the station and I was editing myself 173 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: out because they weren't going to put me on the 174 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: news because you know, I'm seventeen years old. I've never 175 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: been on television. Roger Ogden, who was ahead of the bureau, 176 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: head of the news director there, came in and watched 177 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: the tape for an hour and a half. He watched 178 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: forty five minutes twice and he was mesmerized by Ali. 179 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: He got up and he said, I'll never forget it. 180 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: He said, Jim, you and this videotape for going on 181 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: the air. It's barely adequate. So when I got into 182 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: the Boxing Hall of Fame, and when I got into 183 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: the Basketball Hall of Fame, I said, somehow barely adequate 184 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: ended up here. If you remember, back in those days, 185 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: all of the stations were connected by telephone lines under underground, 186 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: fiber oxtic lines underground, and there was a thing for 187 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: ABC called def All of the ABC stations would send 188 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: into ABCDF, the daily electronic feed into New York, and 189 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: a man named Frank Reynolds was anchoring World News tonight. Well, 190 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: he saw this and he put it on the air. 191 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: And when he put it on the air, Ali had 192 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: already left in gone to Houston because he was there 193 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 2: in the morning, and this came on the evening news 194 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: at night and he saw reaction and he got from 195 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: Frank Reynolds talking to a seventeen year old kid. So 196 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: after that Ali would invite me to interview him before 197 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: and after all of the remaining fights in his career, 198 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: and that opened the door for me in boxing, for 199 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: Don King and Bob Aram to hire me to do 200 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: these interviews, and then Ali, all of these years later 201 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: in two thousand and four we became friends, and all 202 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: those years later from seventy eight to two thousand and four, 203 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: Ali allowed me to do his last interview on the air, 204 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: which was with Kik Carl Lewis, the most decorated track 205 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: and field champion in history, Mary Lourettin, who revolutionized the 206 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: women's sports in our country winning a gold medal in 207 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: eighty four in the Olympics and gymnastics after Nadia and 208 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: Olga and Peer Ray Leonard, who patterned his whole life 209 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: after Ali. The Four of Us or the five of 210 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 2: Us went up to the Stamford Pool in Stamford, California, 211 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: and we interviewed my Felts before he ever won a medal, 212 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: a week before he went their appens, and Michael felt 213 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: didn't feel he belonged in the show. He since went 214 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: on he had never won a medal before then went 215 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: on to win twenty three medals and twenty nine total medals, 216 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: twenty three gold medals. So that show now replays in 217 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: all these last words to the American public. In his 218 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: final interview on television with Parkinson's he had a torch 219 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: flown in like he had from Atlanta from Athens, and 220 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: he handed Michael Felts the torch and he said, I'm 221 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: the greatest, You're the latest. Kiss up to you go 222 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: win all those medals. 223 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: Wow hits wow, wow, incredible time. 224 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: Hey Jim, we could do this all day, but I 225 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: do want to ask you about the Hall of Excellency 226 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: with the thing you're doing on Las Vegas. 227 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: Tell me a little about it. 228 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: All of excellence is all the great sports memorabilion our 229 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 2: country's histories just inside the Fountain Blue Hotel in Las Vegas. 230 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: They've been a great partner, Jeffrey Sofer in the Fountain 231 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: Blue and Tom Brady and I created this museum. It 232 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: took us eight years to build this. It's all the 233 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: great sports memorabilia in our country's history. Everything from Jackie 234 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: Robinson's Beast to break sha color Barrier, to bay ruts 235 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: called shot Bash, to Tom brady seven rings from his 236 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: Super Bowls to the Claric Jones from Tom Wis gooff 237 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 2: to a trophy that everybody in every sport competes for, 238 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: from the Heisman Trophy from Charles Whitson to Billy Jean 239 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: King's first Wimbleton Trophy, to the Gold Medal from Jason 240 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: kitt from the Dream Team to the he Got Clint 241 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: Eastwood Academy Award for Unfree given to Oprah Winfrey's Medal 242 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,479 Speaker 2: of Freedom and her Tony and her Emmy Bill Belichick. 243 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: We celebrate Bill Belichick with his most Warren Hoodie and 244 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and the Lombardi Trophy that he and 245 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: Tom won. So there's something for everyone. Simone Biles LEAs 246 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: Hard from her first gold medal in Rio, and you 247 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: go on a tour and Morgan Freeman walks you through 248 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: it for thirty two minutes the Voice of God, and 249 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: then you can click on we give you an iPhone, 250 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: and you click on any one of the three hundred 251 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: and ten items, three hundred and twenty five items, and 252 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: you get the actual highlight where it was used, and 253 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: then you get the story of it. Bob Costas does baseball, 254 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: Jim Nance does golf, Andre Canter does soccer, Mike Emrick 255 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: does hockey, and so on and so forth. Mary Gorilla 256 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 2: for tennis. Oprah Winfrey for entertainment, and we were just 257 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: lucky Bob Costas for baseball and Jim Nance for golf. 258 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: I may have repeated that I do the boxing, comdoes 259 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: the football, and so we're really proud of it. And 260 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: we have John Elway was a great contributor. John Elway 261 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: gave us football. I believe I'm going off the top 262 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: of my head. I think we have his football when 263 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 2: he surpassed it was the fifty thousand yards and also 264 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 2: it's his game ball from the first Super Bowl that 265 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: he won against Green Bay. 266 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: Wow. 267 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: So we got something from John and so I'm happy 268 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: to have him and the Broncos represented in the Hall 269 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: of Excellence, and we just encourage everybody to come by 270 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 2: and uh and see it. We've got the we just 271 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: celebrated the twentieth anniversary of Kobe Bryant's eighty one point game, 272 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: and we've got the net from that game. We got 273 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: Lebron James, so when he's the basket when he broke 274 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: Kareem out, Duel Jabbar's record, really just a tremendous historical 275 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: artifacts from all We got a baseball from every president 276 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: to throw out a first pitch, all the way back 277 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 2: to Woodrow Wilson, all the way up to President Trump 278 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: and President Biden, every president who's played golf with the 279 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: golf ball signed by John Kennedy and end and Maine 280 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: Johnson and so on and so forth, all the way 281 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: up to President Trump as well. The only woman to 282 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: shoot a fifty nine on the PGA tour. We have 283 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: the putter from Anicasauran Stand, so he gits in there, 284 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: and probably the most the two special artifacts that I 285 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: have in there are the painting that Muhammad Ali did 286 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: for me that he drew from me, next to the 287 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: very famous the first painting that Leroy Neiman ever did 288 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: of Casha's play in the early sixties. And then bat 289 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: I interviewed Muhammad Ali and I took him to his 290 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 2: home in Louisville in the late eighties, and the man 291 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: from Louisville Slugger came out that day in medicine. Gave 292 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali three bats, three Louisville sluggers with his name 293 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali on it, and he signed one cashis play 294 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: for me. 295 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: Incredible wow wow. 296 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something in there or like I say, challenge. 297 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: And we also have one other thing. We're in Las Vegas. 298 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: So we have the King of Las Vegas. We have 299 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: the very first suit that Elvis Presley wore when he 300 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: gave his first concert as a resident in Las Vegas. 301 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: And that's courtesy of Graceland and the good folks down there. 302 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: So tremendous. 303 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: On the strip right now, you'd see twenty five people 304 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: dressed up as Elvis. So his actual suit lives. Elvis 305 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: is in the building at the Hall of Excellence in the. 306 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: Fountain Bloss fantastic. 307 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: Get on over there and see it. They won all 308 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: this stuff in front of the public and we're trying 309 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: to share it with everybody to inspire the next generation. 310 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: All right, well, heye Jim. People can check it out 311 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: at All of Excellence dot org. 312 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: This was a treat. Really appreciate the time. Thanks so much. 313 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: Enjoy your time out in California and Las Vegas. 314 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: All right, say hello to everybody in Denver. My brothers 315 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: are out there and uh love Denver. Brian, Benjamin and 316 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: of course Dave appreciate you having me on. 317 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: You bet always great, I mean, that's what he does. 318 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: He's as great, great interview, great broadcast, great commentator, legend, 319 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: that's right, I mean, and stuff with with boxing. As 320 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: Dave mentioned with Tom Brady, those interviews, I mean, he's 321 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: expanding decades. 322 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 3: The nonsports interviews are great too. 323 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 6: He interviewed Michail Gorbachev, that Lott Albright, and he's interviewed 324 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 6: people all over. 325 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: It's incredible. 326 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: So we'll get an interview up a kaycollaraud of dot com. 327 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: We are gonna take a break because we have Frank 328 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: Caliendo coming up neck Kwa Commas Spirit Health Hotline, thrilled 329 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: to bring on the best comedians in the country. The 330 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: one and only Frank call Yendo is going to be 331 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: here in Denver it Comedy Works South April seventeenth, eighteenth 332 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: for four shows. 333 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 3: Frank, thank you so much for the time. 334 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: Man. 335 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: How are you hey? 336 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 7: Great, good to talk to you, good to talk, good 337 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 7: to talk with you. 338 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: We've had John before. I'm not exactly sure where. 339 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: To start this thing with the super Bowl. But if 340 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 4: John Madden, who we all loved, we're still. 341 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: Alive, knew where to start, way to thank you. 342 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: If you knew where to start, you did start during 343 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: then boom we started and now we're doing this. 344 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: Wait, which when people come up to you, what do 345 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: they ask for the most like like which which impression? 346 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: TV? 347 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 7: Well, yeah, yes, younger people are all asking for Gruden now, 348 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 7: no Spider two Banan. Everybody's looking for a little John Druid, 349 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 7: especially with Gruden out here. I'm pretty good friends with him. 350 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 7: I'm opening up some. 351 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: Boxes with him. 352 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 7: You know, he's done that kind of thing. So he's 353 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 7: out here just walking the streets of San Francisco and 354 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 7: he he ran in a ran into my buddy rich gannon. Man, 355 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 7: this guy played for me. 356 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 2: I love this guy. 357 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 7: He's just hitting him on the shoulder, bruising them up, 358 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 7: and he's getting making them do snapcounts on the streets 359 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 7: of San Francisco. 360 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 361 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: Pretty crazy stuff. 362 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 7: But that's just John Bruden being Johnder. That would be 363 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 7: John Matt explaining John Drewen. That's just John Gruden being 364 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 7: John Bruden right there. 365 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: And that's that's what makes him who he is. 366 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 7: He's the Brett Bar of coaches right there. 367 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: What's the most niche? The most niche? Uh you know, 368 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 3: impression you get asked to do? 369 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 7: Uh, well, probably the ones people don't ask me to do. 370 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: Those would be the most niche. 371 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 7: I would just like a Philly Crystoll. I didn't even 372 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 7: know I could do it. That's ridiculous that someone would 373 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 7: even ask to that, or a Paul jim Otti. I 374 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 7: believe that's one of the craziest things I've ever heard it. 375 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 7: But there are a niche, you know, audiences that find 376 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 7: that to be you. 377 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: Know, here's the thing. 378 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 7: I'm not a political comic. I don't do actual politics, 379 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 7: but I always start my show very broad. 380 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 8: I do the Donald Trump like a lot of people do, 381 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 8: but I do quiet Trumps and people TV very loud, 382 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 8: over the top Trump, and I do Library Trump, which 383 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 8: is where we have tremendous books, and in those books 384 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 8: we have fantastic words. And then we railer Witch with 385 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 8: great meaning. 386 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: And then I mix it up with Joe Biden. 387 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 9: Folks, com on, your man, He's like a drunk auctioneer, 388 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 9: he said Jones A d follow. 389 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: The Roman Empire, the Romans defeated by Mario and Luigi Perry. 390 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: Come on. 391 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 4: And then if our good friend Adam Scheffer saw what 392 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 4: was going on, he'd probably have a thought or too. 393 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 7: Core my sources at this particular time, it appears that 394 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 7: Caliendo is doing my voice again. The thing about Adam 395 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 7: is he does not love he doesn't dislike the impression. 396 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: He just hears the essence because it's these things are 397 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: magic tricks, right, you kind. 398 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 7: Of have to manipulate your mouth and your throat and 399 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 7: stuff to make it work. 400 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: And he hears the essays, and I think it just. 401 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 7: Makes throws them off, like, yeah, I have to cheat 402 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 7: it a little bit to get there? 403 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: Is he the only is there ever been someone upset 404 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: at your impression of them? 405 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 7: Jim Roal never liked me. That's not good incredible phenomenal arugula. 406 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 7: But most people, like you know, even melt Kiper thought 407 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 7: people thought would dislike it. Mel kiper Jr. Talk about 408 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 7: fool about the situation. At the end of the day, 409 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 7: oh Ani Piper family sits around watching fright Telly Endo video. 410 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: So when you come out to Denver, because you obviously 411 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: performed out here, what is the crowd like? What is 412 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: your experience when you're talking about framing your act for 413 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: different regions of the country, do you do you do 414 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. 415 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 5: A little bit. 416 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 7: Denver feels a lot like the Midwest, colorad I grew 417 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 7: up in Waukeshaw, Wisconsin, which is a thirteen miles west 418 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 7: of Milwaukee and it's it's fairly similar. I mean, it's 419 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 7: kind of a they're nice people, fun, a little more outdoorsy, 420 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 7: I would say in. 421 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: Colorado, but. 422 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 7: I don't know, it feels the same as in the Midwest. 423 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 7: It's like right in my you know, right in my 424 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 7: sweet spot. So in New York I would speed it 425 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 7: up a little bit. 426 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: In the West Coast, you. 427 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 7: Got to be a little more too cool for school. 428 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 7: Slow down. 429 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: In the South, just imagine you're in the humidity. 430 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 7: But Colorado is just it's very natural for me, and 431 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 7: I have a lot of fun with it. 432 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 4: Hey, Frank, last thought for me, when you think back 433 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 4: in your career has been so terrific, how did you 434 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: first get into this? 435 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: Well. 436 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 7: I went to school for broadcast journalism at the University 437 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 7: of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. I graduated. I was like, well, what 438 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 7: am I going to do. I don't really like to 439 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 7: be an interviewer. I'd rather be an interviewee. I just 440 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 7: went and started doing stand up. I was like, I'll 441 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 7: take a chance. My dad was a minor league baseball 442 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 7: player in the White Sox organization. He was younger, he 443 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 7: took chances. 444 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 5: He's like, do what you want to do. 445 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: My parents were. 446 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 7: Always behind it, so that's pretty cool. And you know, 447 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 7: my dad was like when we're in school, he's like, 448 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 7: just get sees that's good enough. It was like a 449 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 7: B B plus kind of student, so he's. 450 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: Like, can do it? 451 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 7: Fantastic and do what you know, they kind of they 452 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 7: were never against what I was doing, so I didn't 453 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 7: have any pressure to not do what I wanted. I 454 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 7: had no idea what I wanted to do. I probably 455 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 7: want to get into the sports commentary type of thing 456 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 7: and do it be a sports anchor. I thought that 457 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 7: was my ceiling. But I went and did this and 458 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 7: it worked out, and who knew that the voices would 459 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 7: pay off and I had the niche of sports, which 460 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 7: nobody was really doing it at the time. Now there's 461 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 7: lots of people doing it, but at the time I 462 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 7: was kind of an original. 463 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: I was the only one around. 464 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so last one here for you, and I guess 465 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: I would leave it up to you, But maybe it 466 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: would be easier if I just said, if John matt 467 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: and John Gruden were in the booth breaking down this 468 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl matchup, how would they view Who's going to 469 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: come out on top? 470 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 7: You want to take it first? No, I think you 471 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 7: should take it first that I think I think age 472 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 7: before beauty here. 473 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 5: I'm not sure which one of us is, but I 474 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 5: think you look at a guy like in Drake Bay 475 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 5: they said he's probably not going to be ready, and 476 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 5: then you look at the New England Patriots or a 477 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 5: year ago, they weren't very good. And then Mike Brable 478 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 5: comes in the book, they. 479 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: Changes it all around, and then you know, then you 480 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: look on the other side. 481 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 7: I'll take it from here. A damn darnold man, a 482 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 7: redemption arc. This is one of the most incredible things 483 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 7: I've ever seen in my entire life. The big difference 484 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 7: between these two teams both tremendous defenses. 485 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 5: You agree, John, I totally agree with you that. I 486 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 5: agree with that, like i'd agree with Pat Summer. 487 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 7: On Thanks John, no problems. 488 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: I think that you look at they both have grake defenses. 489 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 7: But would you agree with me on this, John, would 490 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 7: you agree that the Seattle Seahawks are a bit more 491 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 7: swarming and overpowering. 492 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 5: I definitely would, And that's what I think is the difference. 493 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 5: But I do think that Mike Rabel is good for 494 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 5: three points. Three points, yeah, three points. I think at 495 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 5: least three points, Mike Rabel. I mean, he does things 496 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: that no nobody says Bell Belichick. And I know it 497 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 5: seems like Bill Belichick just left, but also Bill Belichick 498 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 5: was the only kind of guy who played those type 499 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 5: of mind. 500 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 7: Games that I played those kinds of mind games. 501 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: And now we're gonna let me finish what. 502 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 7: I'm trying to let you finish. 503 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 9: We're trying to get done. 504 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I'm not even sure what we're 505 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 5: talking about anymore. 506 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: I'm going t Hawks, man, and I'm going Patriots. 507 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: Way to go outstandy oundstandy, Frank. That was that was tremendous. 508 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you out here April seventeenth and eighteenth, 509 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: two shows Friday to show Saturday. Thank you so much again. 510 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: Comedy Works out. It's gotta go check that out. Thank you, Frank. 511 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: Really appreciate it, man, Jank. 512 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 7: Said, Hey, everything you can. You can check me out 513 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 7: on Frank Callyando dot comedy against sell at Frank on 514 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 7: stage dot com and then I'll send you to the 515 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 7: Comedy Works website for tickets and stuff like that too. 516 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: Perfect sounds good. Appreciate it. I appreciate it, Frank. 517 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: Thanks guys. 518 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: All right, he's talented. That was amazing. Holy cow. 519 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 6: I didn't want to give him enough my voice to 520 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 6: work with. He could just imitate me right off the cuff. 521 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just conversations, whole conversations. 522 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: Switch guys. You gonna let me finish. 523 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you said I'd been so long. I don't even 524 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: sure what we're talking about. 525 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 3: The summer drop? Yeah, are all dropped in? We didn't. 526 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: We didn't ask him about Julio Iglesias. I feel like 527 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: we missed, missed the next time. 528 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 3: Next time. There's always the next time. 529 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: You gotta getta Enrique or Julio reference. Maybe they're arguing, 530 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Oh my gosh. 531 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 3: That would have been That would have been great. 532 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: My career that has been of a whirlwinds with Jim 533 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: Gray and then now Frank Caliendo. We get to show 534 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: me the money here in a second for for the 535 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: Nuggets game. Yeah, you know, very quickly on the game. 536 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: One thing I was thinking about is I was being 537 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: annoyed watching some of the coverage today thinking about the 538 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: Broncos should have been here was what we typically do 539 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: this time of year, is what do the Broncos learn 540 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: from the teams that are in the Super Bowl. 541 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: Now. 542 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's much to gain specific about 543 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots, but I say it with Seattle Seahawks, and 544 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: I hadn't really thought about it in terms of this. 545 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: You realized they changed quarterback and they moved on from 546 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: their top two wide receivers this year, Like how many 547 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: teams can be in this position and be as good 548 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: as they were. They traded Geno Smith, they traded DK Metcalf, 549 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, they said goodbye to him as well. 550 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 3: Well, they stood Smith and Jake bud But yeah, no, 551 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: I know and listened. 552 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: It was a high draft pick. I'm not I'm not 553 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: trying to say that they were. They left the cabinet bear. 554 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: They brought back their top guy. I was to a 555 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: three years, but he was a draft pick. So I'm 556 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: just saying like that. That's the point is there's something 557 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: interesting about a team that can be as dominant as 558 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: they are. And I guess the thing to learn from 559 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: them is like, hey, take take big swings. You know, 560 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: for the Broncos, here in a position where they view 561 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: themselves in a window. You know, you were reset with 562 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold instead of Geno Smith. I think some people 563 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: are on the league. I don't know, Dave, what do 564 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: you think did you view Sam Darnald appreciably better as 565 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: an upgrade over Geno's Smith when they did that. 566 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 3: Without without question, even after the way he ended the 567 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: season with Minnesota. See my previously uttered comment. 568 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, they moved on from wide receiver to wide 569 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 6: receiver three and they're tight Noah Fant was their top 570 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 6: tight end catcher past catcher General Smith. 571 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 4: To me, I mean had that had had the one 572 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 4: year in Seattle where it was kind of like, wait 573 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 4: a minute, man, Gino. Gino's playing well, but for most 574 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 4: like the Lion's share of his career, he's been just 575 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 4: good enough. And this sounds disparaging. 576 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: He's had. 577 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 4: He's had a nice career. He's been in the league 578 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 4: a long time. He's played quarterback well at times. But 579 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: I just think Sam Darnold, with what he did in Minnesota, 580 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: I think that made it a hell of a lot 581 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: easier to make a move because you knew if you're Seattle. 582 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: To me, at least you look at Geno Smith and say, Okay, 583 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 4: we know what his ceiling is. 584 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: We really do. 585 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 4: We've seen that, and they were betting that Sam Darnald 586 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 4: having done what he did in Minnesota that they could 587 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: they could sort of recalibrate that his arm is better, 588 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 4: he's a better athlete, and he's younger. 589 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: I think how old Sam Sam Darnld's younger than Gino Idy. 590 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sam is twenty eight, so Gino's thirty something. 591 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's thirty four. I think, let me go by it, 592 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: thirty five five? Okay, yep, Well no, So I mean, 593 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 3: I I would say Sam. 594 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: Donald, certainly from the arc of what we've seen recently, 595 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: he seems like a quarterback is higher upside. But I 596 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: thought we had seen what was a relatively pretty decent 597 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: floor from Gino and so, but again resetting there, what does. 598 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 4: That have to do with anything? What do you mean 599 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 4: we'd seen a pretty decent floor in terms of whether 600 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: we keep this guy or move on. 601 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: I guess the point of that is is, like I knew, 602 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: I knew if Gino Smith stayed with the Seattle Seahawks 603 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: more or less what they'd be, and maybe they wouldn't 604 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: be a super. 605 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: That's not reason enough to stay with Gino Smith. If 606 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 4: you're not a socialist, if you want to win games 607 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 4: in the league, and you're trying to get better. 608 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: You're not gonna I'm kidding, but only half kidding. You're 609 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: not going to. 610 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 4: Approach this and say, yeah, but with this guy, I mean, 611 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I know we're not going to go three 612 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 4: and fourteen. 613 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: You know what, It's interesting that you're arguing this why 614 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: because you and I, Teddy and Drew, we both know 615 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: that there's plenty of teams out there that'll say I'd 616 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: rather have a quarterback that I know want to may 617 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: get out of versus a guy that we might be 618 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: in a big game and he's gonna turtle. Like. 619 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: Those are two. 620 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 4: Those are two, and you're good at this. Those are 621 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 4: two completely separate arguments. We know what the floor is 622 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: of Gino Smith. That was the first argument. Now the 623 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: second argument, at which is fallacious in nature. All Right, 624 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: you said, I know what I get from one guy 625 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: rather than gamble on another guy who might completely turtle 626 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: as well. Well, of course, yeah, I mean, if if 627 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: that's how the argument is set up, then I'm gonna 628 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 4: stay with the guy that I think will not completely turtle. 629 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 4: But what did Sam Darnald do in Minnesota that would 630 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 4: give you reason to think he would completely turtle? 631 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: He collapsed in Week eighteen and then he was awful abjectively. 632 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: I mean he got his ass kicked up front two 633 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: games in a row. Right, never had a chance really 634 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 4: Seti's feet. I mean it was an ass whooping twice. 635 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 4: What has Gino Smith done in his career? If you're 636 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: John Schneider, that would lead you to believe he's the 637 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 4: guy that we think we can get back and compete 638 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 4: in this division and win with on a regular. 639 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: Basis Probably nothing like the reality defeating your own argument. 640 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: The reality is but no, but those are two different conversations. 641 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: And you're really good at this, that's two different things, 642 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: Like he can be a steady force when you have 643 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: a really good Are. 644 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: You advocating that they should have stayed with Geno Smith 645 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: and not Sam Donald at this. 646 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 6: Josh Knider who punted on Russell Wilson and Gino Smith 647 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 6: at exactly the right time. 648 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: What I'm arguing with is that you all, as a 649 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: coaching staff sometimes will make the decision to stay with 650 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: the more consistent, lower ceiling player because not a quarterback. 651 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, quarterback. We seen where the examples of that 652 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: give me one well, I mean even bringing in Teddy 653 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: Bridgewater here for a time with the bronc that had 654 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 3: nothing to do with low low ceiling, high ceiling. 655 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 4: You know what they what other choices were out there, 656 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 4: What other choices were out there? I would I would 657 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 4: say to you that that the Broncos at that point 658 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: thought Teddy Bridgewater in a field of was the best 659 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: one of those to bring in. I mean, that's it. 660 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: They didn't bring him in because, well, he's not going 661 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 4: to make like critical mistakes at inopportune times, so and 662 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: he'll be pretty good most They didn't bring him in 663 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: for that. They brought him in because he was the 664 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: best of that pool. It just was a lousy pool. 665 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: Fair enough, But I'd say, if you have a great defense, 666 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: sometimes you want a quarterback out there. 667 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: That you know. 668 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: It's not gonnappreciate it the narrative now, No, No, I'm 669 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: you're so consistent here. 670 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 4: So so would you agree that your point was completely 671 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: I'm salacious. 672 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying it was a gamble that ended up working 673 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: out for him, but it also could have blown up 674 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: in their face. 675 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 4: Not There's not a team in Pro football that would 676 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 4: look at their quarterback position if they were making a 677 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 4: move in the quarterback and say well, this guy would 678 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 4: bring it in his I can't even remember that how 679 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 4: you termed it his ceiling is his ceiling is low 680 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: though his flooring is high? 681 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: What did you say it was? What the hell is it? 682 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 3: With Sam Donald? There was a lot more variance. No, no, no, 683 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 3: what is the term that? Like? His floor is? You 684 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: you have what floor is high? 685 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: That Gino Smith, you knew what you exactly what you're 686 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: getting out of that quarterback if he stayed in Seattle. 687 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: You had no idea if Sam Donald was ever going 688 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback that you needed him to be. 689 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 3: There's no team that. 690 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 4: I can think of at that position that would look 691 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 4: at it and say, we're keeping this guy if we 692 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 4: have a chance to get that guy. Because the the 693 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: guy that we're gonna keep, we think his floor is high. 694 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: I don't know that we can necessarily win with him, 695 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 4: but I don't think we're gonna get fired because he's 696 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 4: going to be bad enough to take us down that road. 697 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: You nailed it. I know because I've heard you say that. 698 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: I'm just saying. 699 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 4: I would say it is one hundred percent, not true, 700 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 4: like not ninety percent, like a hundred percent. And I 701 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 4: would ask you in the free time you have, you know, 702 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 4: get offline. I would ask you to give me two 703 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 4: or three examples in your mind whatever goes on up there, 704 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 4: what quarterbacks and teams are you actually talking about? We 705 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 4: have to get show me the money? Well you know 706 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 4: what we should do it as show me the money. Well, yeah, 707 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: take your time. 708 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: After showing out here all day, I will give you examples. 709 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 6: Jeff Stoutland is out in the Philadelphia with Philadelphia. 710 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 3: You kind of saw that coming. It's been brewing because 711 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 3: of what's going on behind the scenes. 712 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 6: He may stay with the organization and an advisory capacity, 713 00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 6: but he's out. 714 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 3: He took away his run game coordinator this year. Yep. 715 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 4: And I think that was as I have a little 716 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 4: bit of a connection in Philly. I think that was 717 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 4: as much him as it was them. In terms of 718 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: this announcement today