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Speaker 1: Hits second and six for the eight and seven Detroit

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Speaker 3: Down girls GoF Harrison Smith got him.

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Speaker 4: Harrison Smith got him of the sack. Dallas Turner was

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Speaker 5: He Desmont a game.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones heads to the left, runs through a Lion

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Speaker 1: cat stop sho he showtime and Aaron Jones has flowed

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings to a six zero lead. J eight

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Speaker 1: from the twenty eight big blitz Van Ginkle smacks Goff,

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Speaker 3: Off heavy President interception hit Biron Murphy Junior. Yes, ser

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Speaker 3: Henny runs on the bounds at the forty eight yard line.

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Speaker 3: The Minnesota Vikings up turned over the Detroit Lions three times.

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Speaker 5: It'll be mon listen you Sam of all those sponsors today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's another interception golf over the middle of

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Speaker 5: Holy cow, hit man, just go ahead and steal the show.

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Speaker 4: Look at Harrison Smith celebrated with all these kids. He

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Speaker 4: fuck get that he's dominating the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 5: Oo mass Baunds. He said it and he dropped it.

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Speaker 5: Pend of Vikings kept turned over the Lions again.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's a trick play and here comes turning

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Speaker 1: Edison steaming to the party.

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Speaker 3: To the party, get into the five close to the

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Speaker 5: Horsey signal to.

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Speaker 3: Say, whately, sneaky play by the Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, what's going on everybody? It's alrighty now, Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's the Friday Football.

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Speaker 5: Buffalo wild Wings.

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Speaker 1: Egan gets the money today for the final Friday football

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Speaker 1: feast for the Minnesota Vikings twenty twenty five regular season.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Uh, this is Jared Wells, Engineer extraordinaire to

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Speaker 1: my lap. We have Nick Madden over here with his

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Speaker 1: Greek team. Alec Lewis from the Athletic Nordo from nine

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Speaker 1: to noon and I'm Paul Allen. We good morning, We

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Speaker 1: were pretty pretty morning. Pretty safe to say it's I

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Speaker 1: think it's very safe to say, with the way things

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Speaker 1: Green Bay has opted for some Clayton Tune related terrorism.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, gentlemen, And what do you think of the

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Speaker 1: border battle? One three one to close festivities? But first,

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Speaker 1: anybody want a T shirt? Makes some noise, just a

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Speaker 1: little bit of noise. Now come on, now, what.

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Speaker 5: Do you think?

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Speaker 1: Mister alec lewis the Athletic Theathletic dot com.

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Speaker 5: First of all, what a crowd? I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I was telling Nordo, I call you, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 6: this is a very good crowded Egan I told Nordo

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Speaker 6: and I were talking right before. I'm like, this is unbelievable. Well,

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Speaker 6: really put that together. Clayton Tune versus Brian flores De

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Speaker 6: Quite difficult task ahead for mister Clayton Tune will be

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Speaker 6: curious who he's throwing to because they're not going to

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Speaker 5: And this Flores.

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Speaker 6: Defense has been just exceptional and a joy to watch

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Speaker 5: I mean, I you cannot say.

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Speaker 6: Enough about just the plans they put together and then

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Speaker 2: And it's a Border Battle weekend, so those here at

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Speaker 5: But you're right, it's the way.

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Speaker 2: This team is finished. And it's again silver linings and

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Speaker 2: But the masterpiece defense combine combined with certain individual stories,

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Speaker 2: It's been a blast watching this team win four straight.

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Speaker 2: Let's just make it five and put a cap on

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five season that way, why not.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy with some finger related terrorism.

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Speaker 1: He went full in practice yesterday, which means he seems

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Speaker 5: That's exciting, isn't it, Alex question you say?

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Speaker 6: You keep saying, yeah, is it the finger or is

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Speaker 6: Does that finger that should be in the preposterous statement

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Speaker 6: one more opportunity before this season ends, and just like

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Speaker 1: View Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Justin Jefferson yesterday won the

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Speaker 6: it was awesome to get to see Dame Mizutani present

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Speaker 5: You were their PA, but Justin was appreciative of it.

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Speaker 6: Which was just funny to see him like all happy

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Speaker 1: Justin did his regular weekly press conference, generally on Thursdays,

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Speaker 5: Need to dive or if you can read between the lines.

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Speaker 1: And it was Justin Jefferson on JJ McCarthy as the

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Speaker 1: Did you did you read between the lines anything? Or

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Speaker 6: I didn't really read much into it. It is Patton

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Speaker 5: Now, I am sure ain't nobody in that building above

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Speaker 1: Like part part of Hey it's the banker, which means

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Speaker 6: No, So I would say I didn't read a ton

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Speaker 5: You think about the grind.

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Speaker 2: Of production this year and again, a team that's four

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Speaker 2: He knows what this means if it doesn't work out.

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Speaker 2: He knows what that process might look like, if you're

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Speaker 5: I can't anywhay moving on from that. Sorry, no, it's fine.

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Speaker 5: Of money for that man. If Justin can play, he plays.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Naylor will play with the Minnesota Vikings potend that

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Speaker 1: But but think about Alex's latest report. If you need

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Speaker 1: It's been great to have Alec, Lewis and Nordo joined

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Speaker 5: The theory Okay.

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Speaker 1: Now, so Brian Flores as defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 6: has had major influence on, and he took a defense

443
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Speaker 6: in twenty twenty two that was poor, to put it

444
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 6: very nicely, Yeah, and really just transformed it from the

445
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 6: get go. And they've been really good. They've evolved, they've adapted,

446
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 6: they've created. I mean, it's gotten better, it's been it's

447
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 6: been really impressive in the major regard. And he's not

448
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 6: just like a Sunday play caller. It's not just scheme.

449
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 6: It's identity, it's personnel, influence, its evaluation, it's it's you're

450
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 6: getting like a really.

451
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Full package with them next layer Alex hit already, Brian

452
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 1: Flores and Mike Tomlin are quite close, and Mike was

453
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Speaker 1: there for Brian professionally during let's just say a tricky

454
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: time of his career. Uh, they're also finally before the

455
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: theory there there was a report I can't remember from home,

456
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: but I think it was it was kind of a

457
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: heavy hitter that if the Steelers don't make the playoffs,

458
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin could retire. Mike Tomlin potentially could retire and

459
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Speaker 1: get into the TV world where there's a lot of

460
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: money to be had. So we're all familiar with that,

461
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: right believe I've seen that. Here's the theory. Why would

462
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin come back? To the Pittsburgh Steelers period, win

463
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Speaker 1: or lose against Baltimore, go to the postseason.

464
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Speaker 5: They're not going to the super Bowl. Why would he

465
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Speaker 5: come back?

466
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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a quarterback next year unless he wants

467
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Speaker 1: to play the Aaron Rodgers game again, and I don't

468
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: think that'll happen. So I would not be surprised at

469
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: all if Brian floores, if Mike Tomlin retires period, Okay,

470
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: win or lose, no matter what Pittsburgh does. Given as

471
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Speaker 1: close as Mike and Brian are, and that's fact, and

472
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: the level of respect the owners of the Steelers, the

473
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: Rooney family have for Mike Tomlin now and everything he's

474
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: given over two decades, I fix the race would be

475
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Speaker 1: one way to look at it. Mike Tomlin's influence with

476
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: the Rooney family is incredibly high. So if he's retiring,

477
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: would anybody be surprised if you said to the Rooneys,

478
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: look the other way on the lawsuits hired this guy

479
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Speaker 1: to replace me?

480
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Speaker 5: And I think the Rooneyes would say yes. So you

481
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 5: think the owner would just listen to whatever Mike Tomlin says, well,

482
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Speaker 5: most of it.

483
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Speaker 1: I mean it's not like it's like, hey, this guy

484
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: over here is a season tickets for thirty years. Let's

485
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: just bring him in, not vet him out. Figure out

486
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: it's Mike Tomlin's cachet within that organization, specifically certain members

487
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: of the Rooney family who have influence. If he retires,

488
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Speaker 1: and I don't understand why he wouldn't, I mean, if

489
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: he's thinking about it a little bit, he's going to

490
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: be lights out as an analyst on television and he's

491
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: going to make a lot of money with a much

492
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: more comfortable lifestyle. And he has no quarterback next year.

493
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: That's a big part of this equation. No quarterback next year?

494
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Speaker 1: Does he want to deal with all the rigamarole with

495
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: which he just dealt this offseason. So if Mike Tomlin retires,

496
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: period forget losing to Baltimore, just period A, I'm not

497
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Speaker 1: going to be surprised at all. B I think he

498
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: would get with the Rooney family and say hire that guy.

499
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Speaker 6: Well, what's interesting, because the question with Brian floor is

500
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Speaker 6: right now is you look around the league and you're like, Okay,

501
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 6: which head coaching opportunities makes sense for Brian Flores which

502
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 6: would be interested in him, and you have a hard time.

503
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Speaker 5: That all look awful right now.

504
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have a hard time placing it. They're they're

505
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 6: not great opportunities. And then you're thinking about which type

506
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 6: of owner personality would be willing to mesh with the

507
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 6: Brian Flores personality, and.

508
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Speaker 1: It and hires somebody who has two active lawsuits going

509
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: against the NFL.

510
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Speaker 5: No question.

511
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 6: I said this and the stuff like that, and I

512
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 6: said it, I mean they hired him in the first place.

513
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Speaker 2: Uh.

514
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 6: And I've said, I said this last week that Brian

515
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 6: Flores beyond the lawsuit stuff, he is a like strong personality.

516
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 6: He wants influence, he has major opinions, He's not willing,

517
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 6: he's not afraid to voice them. That's part of what

518
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 6: makes him great is his directness and his honestness, our honesty, honestness.

519
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 5: But what I would say is, it's not a it's.

520
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: Not a crazy theory and it v a lateral move

521
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: now am I. It's it's hard somewhere else or defensive

522
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: coordinator here feels like a three piece three years and

523
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: I mean fat, fat DC money.

524
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're talking like millions upon millions of dollars to

525
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 6: be the DC. I'm with you in that, I would be.

526
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 6: I cannot imagine he would take a lateral defensive coordinator move.

527
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 6: And I do know that he does want to be

528
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 6: a head coach, And so again it gets you thinking

529
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 6: about what opportunities exist is Las Vegas, his relationship.

530
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 5: With Tom Brady. Would Tom be willing to do that?

531
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Speaker 6: I mean like that you you you start to go

532
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 6: down the road like the New York Giants.

533
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 5: He one of the lawsuit.

534
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 6: One of the lawsuits contains a lot of dynamics with

535
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 6: the New York Giants. It's hard to fathom that if

536
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 6: Arizona fires Jonathan Gannon, is Michael Bidwell their owner gonna

537
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 6: be willing to do Brian Flores another defensive guy, hard

538
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 6: to imagine. So the Pittsburgh one is definitely interesting. And

539
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 6: I would say that Mike Tomlin would deaf be able

540
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 6: to probably pass along some very like specific and important

541
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 6: information of the Rooneyes. But it's also it's hard to

542
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 6: imagine that they would go from the strong minded personality

543
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 6: of Mike Tomlin to the defensive mind and Brian Flores

544
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 6: and and and transition that way, maybe not go younger

545
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 6: and offensive.

546
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 5: So I don't know, not a bad theory, but.

547
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 6: I think that's that's the conversation it should be what

548
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 6: head coaching opportunities would exist or do exist for Brian Flores.

549
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just as I've told you, and I talked

550
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: a bit about it when on Wednesday when I filled

551
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: in for you, I think that Pittsburgh is the spot,

552
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: Like that's the one that just makes the most sense

553
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: the other opportunities that will exist.

554
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 5: Right now, only two guys have been fired.

555
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: I believe it's Dayble and then whoever was a Callahan,

556
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: maybe that was.

557
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 5: That was fire and Titans does not happening.

558
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: So then you know, you got Falcons and Raheem Morris,

559
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: you you hat speculation, the Dolphins obviously not going to

560
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: be an option, and you.

561
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 5: Mentioned the Giants.

562
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: Was in the Giants the bit where yeah bur Belichick

563
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: got the text.

564
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I don't think he's going to the Maras.

565
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 5: So now it's one team and that's it. I think

566
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: I think that's it. Anybody would hire him outside of

567
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 5: the room Vegas.

568
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's I I think how much how important

569
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: is is Tom Brady's relationship with Flores. He still has

570
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: to operate within the construct of what has typically been

571
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: a really disorganized and bad franchise, and the Raiders so, uh,

572
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: who's more locked up tight? Who's had three coaches since

573
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine? Who's the ownership group that has been

574
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: more supportive of head coaches over the course of time.

575
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you know what are we talking

576
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: that the spectrum of support versus like the Wilfs who've

577
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: been very supportive and such, but the Ruinees, that's that's

578
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: an organization that has shown stability. And he's going to

579
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: be asking for a leash. He's going to be asking

580
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: for leeway and influence in any organization. And where's the

581
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: spot that is most likely to give him that? And

582
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: I just going back to twenty twenty two when he

583
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: was that special assistant whatever his title was with Tomlin,

584
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: that felt like a baton toss at this at that time. Yeah,

585
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: and now I think that that only makes more sense

586
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: as as Tomlin plays out the string on his on

587
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: his career.

588
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 6: I mean, if that opportunity presented, it was a no

589
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 6: brainer of all no brainers.

590
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 5: Ever, the no brainer for Brian Flora.

591
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: I just don't know why Tom Loin would come back.

592
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, because if.

593
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 5: You keep saying this, I I guess I'm.

594
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: Following that report that I believe to be accurate that

595
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin may reach higher and may get into TV,

596
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: which means there probably is some TV fat TV deal

597
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: that his agent knows is in front of him, and

598
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: it then it comes back to, all right, well, who's

599
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: my quarterback next year? Do I really want to deal

600
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: with this again? Holy cow? Deal with what the Rogers thinking?

601
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 5: One?

602
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 6: Okay, sure, if Rogers were to come back, Yes, he's

603
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 6: older and he hasn't been exceptional, but that has been

604
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 6: a yeah, like by all accounts, both publicly and exaculately,

605
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 6: that has been a really good fit between all among

606
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 6: all of those guys.

607
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 5: So but again, Rogers would be forty three or what

608
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 5: have you.

609
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 6: It's it's kind of since you're you would be reshuffling

610
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 6: the deck. The thing about Mike Tomlin, you keep you

611
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 6: say retiring TV.

612
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 5: I don't think that's a long term thing.

613
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 6: I would say he would go to TV for a

614
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 6: year and then hop right back in kind of like

615
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 6: Vrabel left Tennessee, got fired from Tennessee, spent a year

616
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 6: kind of on the ABYSS.

617
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, worked with Cleveland a little bit.

618
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 6: But like Mike Tomlin, I don't think is done at

619
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 6: all by till early fifties. Yeah, fifty three fifty four

620
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 6: by any means from a like long term career standpoint,

621
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 6: but it definitely makes.

622
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Speaker 5: And I have no steam.

623
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Speaker 1: This is absolutely of my doing, just thinking it out

624
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: the last No, it's days and and and I'm thinking

625
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: about Tomlin and Pittsburgh in this potential short or long

626
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: term retirement being like I mean it it. I think

627
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: Rogers is more likely to retire than Tomlin. Yeah, yeah,

628
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean Rogers is there you go, So therefore if

629
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: that takes place, well then I mean it's like, just

630
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: spend the entire offseason looking at this quarterback situation.

631
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 5: Got to do it again? Kidding man, Yeah, I mean,

632
00:32:59,120 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 5: but you could.

633
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 6: You could convince yourself that, you know, if Dante Moore

634
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 6: for Oregon comes out for Dano Mendoza's taken really high.

635
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 6: They're picking in the twenties, and Dante Moore is available,

636
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 6: and we draft a guy like him, You're you're rolling

637
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 6: the dice, obviously.

638
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: But Abs has a thirty million dollar TV deal in

639
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: front of.

640
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 6: Me, no, no doubt, and he's I mean, he's been

641
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 6: there for two decades. It feels like in a lot

642
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 6: of ways, it's kind of run its course. I mean,

643
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 6: he's had an unbelievably successful career and it's I mean,

644
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 6: at least in my opinion, like a really likable guy.

645
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 6: But I don't think long term he has done. That's

646
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 6: that's I'm almost convinced about that.

647
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: Well, on behalf of at least two thirds of the feast,

648
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: we really hope Brian Lawes back has not been some

649
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: coordinating three thirds.

650
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 5: I've been. I've enjoyed the heck, got to watch it awesome,

651
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 5: the full cast.

652
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: But see you go to that media room and I

653
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: don't so I don't know what happens there when we

654
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: even slightly paint you as like, you know, like kind

655
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: of a little bit of a band or something.

656
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 5: You know, right, you got to be objective on hundred percent.

657
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 6: You're the journalist. Yeah, No, Brian floor has been. It's

658
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 6: been fun to cover him. And when we return.

659
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Speaker 1: Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk dot Com joins the

660
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Speaker 1: Friday Football Feast of Buffalo Wild Wings Egan on KFA Hey,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Wild Wings Egan Friday Football a very special guest

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Speaker 1: of ours on the nine to noon radio show, generally

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Speaker 1: joining on Wednesdays, but it's a Friday this week for

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Speaker 1: the Friday Football Feast and we're jam packed here at

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Wild Wings Egan. Can we get a witness and

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Speaker 1: a raucous round of applause for Mike Florio from Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk dot Com And he's also an author. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, come on now. Very important to the radio

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Speaker 1: show and very good at what he does. And he's

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Speaker 1: also part of NBC's Football Night in America. His newest

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Speaker 1: book is called Big Shield. You can learn more about

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Speaker 1: that at pro Footballtalk dot com. And Mike Florio joins us. Now, Michael,

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Speaker 1: it's Paul Allen, your buddy with Alex Lewis from the

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Speaker 1: Athletic nor Do, the producer of nine to Now. We're

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Speaker 1: at the Friday Football Feast. How are things?

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Speaker 2: Thanks you great?

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Speaker 7: Good morning, gentlemen, Hello everybody there, Happy new year. Let's go.

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Speaker 7: Let's finish twenty twenty five with a mid straight victory

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Speaker 7: and hopefully that carries over into the zero and zero

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty six adventure.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to make a proclamation here, not knowing where

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Speaker 1: your fans come from. I mean, you're based in West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Pro Footballtalk dot Com is an international entity because football

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Speaker 1: is so popular around the world. This young lady off

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Speaker 1: my right shoulder. Okay, Katie Dempsey, this is Mike Florio's

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Speaker 1: biggest fan. I mean, and I've known this from the

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Speaker 1: State Fair for years?

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Speaker 5: Is the feast?

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Speaker 1: Is Florio coming on? Is Florio coming on? Can you

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Speaker 1: ask Florio this? Can you ask Florio that? Will he

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Speaker 1: ever come to the State Fair? Does he really love Mancini's?

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Speaker 1: Does he really know Johnny Mancini? So, Katie Dempsey, here's

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Speaker 1: your opportunity say hello to Mike Florio.

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Speaker 8: Hi, Mike, how are you?

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Speaker 7: Katie? I am great, and thank you so much. It's

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Speaker 7: good to have fans, especially when I have so few

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Speaker 7: of them. Paul get her address. I'll send her a

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Speaker 7: son coffee, a big shield.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we got a book out of it. And she

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Speaker 1: actually and this is a rare opportunity. She has a

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Speaker 1: question for you. What's your question for Pro Football Talk

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Speaker 1: dot COM's Mike Florio.

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Speaker 8: Okay, first of all, I look at your power rankings

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Speaker 8: every week. One question, how do you formulate those power rankings?

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Speaker 5: And number two?

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Speaker 8: Why the Seahawks you have number one? And then one

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Speaker 8: last one bit, does Christian McCaffrey have any chance at

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Speaker 8: this year's MVP.

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Speaker 5: Oh hey, Katie question.

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Speaker 7: It's very good algorithms with many different equations and formulas

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Speaker 7: that I must have input into the computer. Actually, I

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Speaker 7: just sit down on Monday night while I'm watching the

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Speaker 7: Monday night game, I take the prior week's power rankings.

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Speaker 7: I wipe clean all of the prior comments, I update

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Speaker 7: the records, I look at where they already are, and

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Speaker 7: I just go with my gut as to where I

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Speaker 7: think they currently should be based upon the week that was.

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Speaker 7: And the Seahawks moved into number one after that thrilling

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Speaker 7: overtime win against the Rams, and they won their next

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Speaker 7: game twenty seven ten against the Panthers, so they stayed there.

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Speaker 7: They moved their way up. It's an homage to the

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Speaker 7: old APUPI college poll back when they're only twenty teams.

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Speaker 7: That was the end all be all for figuring out

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Speaker 7: how the college teams were prioritized. So that's how I

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Speaker 7: approach it. There is no real magic to it, and

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Speaker 7: it is something that literally is thrown together at the

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Speaker 7: end of a weekend of sleep deprivation when I get

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Speaker 7: home Monday night and I try to get them done

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Speaker 7: so they're ready to go Tuesday morning, so it is

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Speaker 7: far less scientific than any other set of power rankings

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Speaker 7: there as it relates to Christian McCaffrey. I'm stunned that

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Speaker 7: he's plus fifty thousand to be the MVP because if

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Speaker 7: the forty nine ers win on Saturday Night and they

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Speaker 7: capture the number one seed and McCaffrey plays well, now

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Speaker 7: he needs over one hundred receiving yards to get to

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Speaker 7: a thousand rushing and one thousand receiving for the second

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Speaker 7: time in his career. Only two guys have ever done

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Speaker 7: that once that was Marshall Faulk and Roger Craig. McCaffrey

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Speaker 7: did it in twenty nineteen. I believe. I don't know

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Speaker 7: how he's not on the ballots. They go five deep.

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Speaker 7: I've got one of them. He'll be on my ballot

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Speaker 7: if they finish with the number one seed, and if

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Speaker 7: he gets a thousand and a thousand, I don't know

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Speaker 7: where he's going to land on that ballot, but he

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Speaker 7: will make an appearance. And that one seed means everything.

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Speaker 7: That one seed is the bye week, That one seed

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Speaker 7: is your home until for the forty nine ers the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl. If they can keep winning, and he's been

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Speaker 7: the one constant through all of the injuries and everything

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Speaker 7: else that's gone on. He's had a great year, and

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Speaker 7: he takes a pounding each and every week. I see

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Speaker 7: him laying flat on his back, and I wonder is

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Speaker 7: he going to be able to get it up. He's

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Speaker 7: dealing with a back injury.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 7: If they finish the job and get the number one seed,

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Speaker 7: he deserves more consideration than I think he's gotten. And

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Speaker 7: we'll see how that plays out.

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Speaker 1: All right, as we go with the Friday football Feast

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Speaker 1: at Buffalo Wild Wings all throughout Minnesota, Mike, these shows

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Speaker 1: normally have some pepfest to them, but given Sunday is

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Speaker 1: our final game this season, today, kind of it's kind

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Speaker 1: of low key a funeral for a friend, given that

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Speaker 1: it's ending after Sunday, and good morning, what do you

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Speaker 1: think of the season and what do you think is

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Speaker 1: coming up next?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, look, the season was all in all disappointing.

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Speaker 7: It as a roller coaster. The quarterback situation has complicated

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Speaker 7: the ability to be competitive. And there's just a few

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Speaker 7: games here or there, especially that Bears game in mid November.

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Speaker 7: If that game goes the other way, and who knows

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Speaker 7: how everything else after that plays out, but the team's

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Speaker 7: not that far away from being in playoff position. I

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Speaker 7: have them at number thirteen in the Power rankings, ahead

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Speaker 7: of at least two two playoff teams, well two playoff teams,

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Speaker 7: because they're ahead of the Ravens, Steelers, Buccaneers, and Panthers,

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Speaker 7: and two of those teams are definitely going to go

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Speaker 7: to the playoffs. The Vikings right now, on that four

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Speaker 7: game winning streak, and after what they did to the

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Speaker 7: Lions on Christmas Day, they earn a spot that is

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Speaker 7: among the best teams in the NFL, or at least

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Speaker 7: the better teams in the NFL, and back in the

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Speaker 7: eighties the early nineties, before free agency really changed the

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Speaker 7: construction of a team year in and year out, finishing

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Speaker 7: strong like this would really mean a lot. I don't

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Speaker 7: know what it means for these Vikings because the roster

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Speaker 7: is always very different from one year to the next,

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Speaker 7: and that quarterback question still lingers. I know Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 7: came out yesterday with a very strong support for JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 7: which is kind of surprising when you look at Jefferson's

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Speaker 7: production when McCarthy plays. But who knows what's going to

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Speaker 7: happen come next year. That's the biggest question that's looming

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Speaker 7: over this roster. Is it going to be McCarthy unquestioned

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Speaker 7: with just veteran backup journeyman type number two, number three,

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Speaker 7: or are they going to bring in somebody who would

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Speaker 7: be a competitor for JJ McCarthy. Is he going to

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Speaker 7: have to earn the spot. Is he going to have

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Speaker 7: to stave off a guy who would be ready to

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Speaker 7: come in and play at a high level. That's really

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Speaker 7: the question for twenty twenty six that we'll get a

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Speaker 7: resolution to, presumably by the middle of March, when the

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Speaker 7: free agency carousel starts to spin and the Vikings either

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Speaker 7: do or don't trade for or sign a veteran quarterback

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Speaker 7: with starting experience.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, It'snordo here, and you know whether it's the

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Speaker 2: McCarthy conversation. One talker that we were mentioned in just

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Speaker 2: last segment was the future of Brian Flores and the

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Speaker 2: fact that his contract ends at the conclusion of this season,

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Speaker 2: and we've heard steam about the idea of potential lateral

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Speaker 2: moves or the head coaching opportunities, not just the two

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Speaker 2: that are already there, but maybe others.

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Speaker 5: That will pop up in the in the ensuing weeks.

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Speaker 2: Here, where's your head at in terms of Brian Flores

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Speaker 2: and what's next between the Purple Flores and maybe another

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Speaker 2: team in the.

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Speaker 5: Mix down the road.

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Speaker 7: Well, let me start on the head coaching side, because

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Speaker 7: that's relevant. Regardless of whether or not the Vikings extend

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Speaker 7: his contract, He's to leave at any time for a

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Speaker 7: promotion to another team. I did a deep dive with

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Speaker 7: a variety of high level types coaches, gms, etc. Just

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Speaker 7: to get the temperature on what the view is among

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Speaker 7: his peers. He's widely respected for the scheme. The scheme

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Speaker 7: is regarded as being good enough to get him interviews.

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Speaker 7: The question is will those interviews lead to an offer,

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Speaker 7: and will it be an offer that he'll take. When

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Speaker 7: you're a head coach who's been fired before, you got

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Speaker 7: to be even more selective when the window opens the

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Speaker 7: don't want to rush into a potentially dysfunctional organization like

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Speaker 7: the Dolphins have been ever since Stephen Ross bought the

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Speaker 7: team in two thousand and nine. You'll want to be

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Speaker 7: careful you'll want to make a good choice, and from

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Speaker 7: the team's perspective, they're going to want to understand exactly

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Speaker 7: what happened in Miami. It didn't go well there, it

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Speaker 7: didn't end well there. There's some of that Belichickian attitude

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Speaker 7: that can rub people the wrong way. I know they

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Speaker 7: loved him in Pittsburgh. I don't know that he's universal

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Speaker 7: loved in the building in Minnesota. Despite the performance of

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Speaker 7: that went. These are all things the team's going to

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Speaker 7: have to decide, and one of the realities when a

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Speaker 7: team hires a new head coach personality wise, they tend

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Speaker 7: to go for the exact opposite of the guy they

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Speaker 7: just had. So I would look at the teams that

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Speaker 7: had kind of a player friendly, nice guy coach and

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Speaker 7: it didn't work out. Maybe there's a team out there

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Speaker 7: get the most out of the talent that we have

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Speaker 7: on the rosters. So I don't know how that's going

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Speaker 7: to play out as it relates to his contract. Look,

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Speaker 7: he's going to be a free agent we rarely see

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Speaker 7: coaches become free agents. His contract's going to expire, and

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Speaker 7: the Vikings are either going to work out a deal

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Speaker 7: to keep him. They tried to do it in the offseason,

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Speaker 7: he decided to wait. And now we have two different factors.

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Speaker 7: We have teams that may fire their current defensive coordinators

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Speaker 7: and make their defense better. And then we're going to

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Speaker 7: have the guys who do become head coaches when they

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Speaker 7: go in for those interviews. If you can say, all right,

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Speaker 7: here's my plan, here's I'm going to run the offense

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Speaker 7: and on defense, I can deliver Brian Flores as my coordinator,

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Speaker 7: that's going to give that guy a much greater boost

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Speaker 7: to getting the job more often than not. But that

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Speaker 7: that is to be determined once we know whether or

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Speaker 7: not Brian Flores is going to be a serious candidate,

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Speaker 7: because it puts him in a weird spot to say, hey,

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Speaker 7: I want to try to get one of these jobs.

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Speaker 7: Oh and by the way, I've told this candidate that

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Speaker 7: he can tell prospective teams that are considering him to

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Speaker 7: be the head coach, I'll be his defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Mike it's Alec Lewis. Believe.

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Speaker 6: The other day you wrote kind of a story about

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00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 6: head coaching vacancies, and you had the Vikings in it,

878
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 6: and you wrote, coach Kevin O'Connell is the right leader

879
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 6: for the team. How much leading are they letting him do?

880
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 6: Someone bungled the quarterback decision for twenty twenty five. We've

881
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 6: got a feeling that someone wasn't O'Connell. I'm just curious,

882
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 6: like what you feel like you've heard related to kind

883
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 6: of that subject in its entirety.

884
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 7: Well, I go back to March when there was a

885
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 7: lot of uncertainty about what was going to happ and

886
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 7: at the quarterback position. I know from the people who

887
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 7: were dealing with the vikings on behalf of the likes

888
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 7: of Sam Darnald and Daniel Jones and JJ McCarthy for

889
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 7: that matter, there was a sense that I picked up

890
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 7: for multiple different people of confusion as to who's making

891
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 7: this call, Who's making this decision as to whether or

892
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 7: not Donald's going to be back, Jones is going to

893
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 7: be back, Aaron Rodgers is going to be the quarterback

894
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 7: for twenty twenty five. JJ McCarthy's going to be the

895
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 7: guy and at the end of the day, it was

896
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 7: resolved to go forward with an unproven commodity on a

897
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 7: playoff caliber team that went fourteen and three a year ago.

898
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 7: Somebody made that decision. And this is the time of

899
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 7: year for ownership of any team that failed to live

900
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 7: up to its potential to do an objective, fair, honest

901
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 7: look at what went wrong the prior year and what

902
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 7: we need to do to make it go right moving forward.

903
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 7: And I think it's as simple and hopefully people went

904
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 7: on the record within the organization and cast their ballot

905
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 7: and raised their hand and said this is what I

906
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 7: think we should do. If I'm the Wilfs, I want

907
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 7: to know who thought this would be a good idea.

908
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 7: Who thought that we should have a veteran quarterback here

909
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 7: as insurance against JJ McCarthy getting injured or to press

910
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 7: JJ McCarthy have somebody ready to go and win games.

911
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 7: I mean, they brought in Carson Wentz right before Labor

912
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 7: Day weekend for crying out loud after the roster's cut.

913
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 7: They brought in Carson Wentz and ended up starting a

914
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 7: bunch of games until he got injured. So my gut

915
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 7: tells me that the quarterback whisperer was advocating. Now, I

916
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 7: don't know this is to be a fact, but my

917
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 7: gut tells me that Kevin O'Connell may have wanted something

918
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 7: different than what he got, And if that's the truth,

919
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 7: I think he needs to emerge from the twenty twenty

920
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 7: five experience with more influence, especially on the quarterback position

921
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,479
Speaker 7: for twenty twenty six.

922
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: One thing, Mike, when we talk about it here in

923
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: Minnesota is kind of the idea of collaboration and what

924
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: that looks like within the construct of an organization. Kwasi

925
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: Adolfo Mensa is of course general manager, and then maybe

926
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: Brian Flores has certain influence in terms of defensive players

927
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: via the draft, via free agency, that diamond in the

928
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: the undrafted cat and then offensively, as you mentioned, the

929
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: influence of the head coach certainly would have to be

930
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 2: loud in a room that makes a quarterback part of

931
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: that conversation. Now, with that said, you know, just again,

932
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: based on what you've heard, is there anything unique.

933
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 5: To that collaboration.

934
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: Does it get too too many cooks in the kitchen,

935
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: so to speak, as it retains to the purple. It's

936
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Speaker 2: very difficult as an outsider to really gauge that.

937
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Speaker 7: I think collaboration is always important in any organization, a

938
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Speaker 7: spirit of collaboration. You don't want somebody walking around saying,

939
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 7: hey I got final say hey, I run the ship.

940
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 7: Hey it's my decision. You want to have input, You

941
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 7: want to take in everyone's opinions, But in the close questions,

942
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 7: in the complicated questions, in the most important decisions that

943
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 7: have many different potential permutations, you need somebody who is

944
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 7: hands on the wheel, steady and has the vision, the

945
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 7: foresight and ultimately makes the right decision. So you need collaboration,

946
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 7: but you ultimately, at the end of the day, need leadership.

947
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 7: In some organizations that comes from ownership. In other organizations

948
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 7: it's the GM. For some it's the head coach. But

949
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 7: I think that it's important to take in everyone's opinion.

950
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 7: It's important that those opinions are fully respected and processed.

951
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 7: Somebody's got to make the decision at the end of

952
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 7: the day. It can't be well, you know we're going

953
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 7: to go two against one or three against five. You

954
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 7: need one person who's making the key decisions. And that's

955
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 7: the balance I think you want to strike between collaboration

956
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 7: and somebody who's fully and completely in charge, with no

957
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 7: one able to question that person's power and influence.

958
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: A couple of nice games tomorrow Carolina and Tampa Bay

959
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: for the division title winner in loser out Seattle at

960
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: San Francisco. The Niners beat them earlier in the year

961
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: at Seattle, and the one seed in the nfcs a's day.

962
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: So Sam Darnold Week eighteen road game, one seed at stake,

963
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: what possibly could go wrong?

964
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 5: Mike?

965
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I was there last year at ford Field

966
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 7: when what possibly could go wrong did go wrong. It'll

967
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 7: be interesting to see what he's learned from that. I mean,

968
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 7: irony of all ironies. The very next year, with a

969
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 7: new team, he's in the exact same position where he's

970
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 7: on the road against the division rival with the one

971
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 7: seed hanging in the balance. How's he going to perform?

972
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 7: And this time around, he's going against the forty nine

973
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 7: Ers team that he played for for a year before

974
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 7: he signed with the Vikings. So I thought that was

975
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 7: going to be the final game of the season. I

976
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 7: was surprised at first, but once I thought it through,

977
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 7: it made sense that the NFL decided to go raven

978
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 7: Steelers because there's so much drama that will emerge for

979
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 7: the team that loses. You know, whoever loses Tomorrow night

980
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 7: is still in the playoffs. Sunday night, it's go home

981
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 7: and maybe a coaching change and maybe quarterback issues. So

982
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 7: there's a lot of stuff riding on the outcome of

983
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 7: that game. So this is Darnold's opportunity. Hey, and Paul

984
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 7: and that Panthers Bucks game. Common misconception. It's not win

985
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 7: and you're in. If the Bucks win, they got to

986
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 7: sweat out the next day, They got to hope the

987
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 7: Saints beat the Falcons the next day. There's this weird

988
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 7: possibility of a three way tie. So if the Panthers

989
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 7: lose tomorrow to the Buccaneers and the Falcons beat the

990
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 7: Saints on Sunday and the Falcons are favored by three,

991
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 7: you got a three way tie at eight and nine,

992
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 7: and the tiebreaker goes by virtue of round robin head

993
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 7: to head record to the Carolina Panthers. So the Bucks

994
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 7: could lose, could win tomorrow. The Bucks could win tomorrow

995
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 7: and then ultimately lose the division title if the Falcons

996
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 7: beat the Saints on Sunday.

997
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, nor to explain that to me Tuesday, I forgot.

998
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: Speaking of the AFC side, who do you have more

999
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: faith in, whether it's Vrabel and Drake.

1000
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 5: May and just kind of how that engine's been running.

1001
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 2: And you know, I think as of now Bronco's still

1002
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: in the one seed or those Broncos and bo Nicks,

1003
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: both QB's year two, both QBS potentially having the advantage

1004
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: of playing in front of their home fans throughout the playoffs.

1005
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: Based on how Sunday shakes out, who do you have

1006
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: more faith in out of the AFC? Maybe from those

1007
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: top two with the young QBS.

1008
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 7: Hey, it's going to come down to the one seed.

1009
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 7: You know, I don't have the numbers in front of me,

1010
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 7: but but when Bill Belichick was with the Patriots and

1011
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 7: they had that eighteen year run of just you know,

1012
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 7: greatness unparalleled, especially in the salary cap era, they were

1013
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 7: oh and three in Denver in the postseason oh and three.

1014
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 7: They have not been able to thrive in Denver, whether

1015
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 7: it's the altitude, whether it's the crowd, and that crowd

1016
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 7: has gotten louder and louder each and every week. So

1017
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 7: where that game is played, if and when they cross

1018
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 7: paths is going to be critical. And all the Broncos

1019
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 7: have to do is beat the Charters and Trey Lance

1020
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 7: on Sunday to punch their ticket to the one seed.

1021
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 7: But we've seen the Broncos this year just be sluggish.

1022
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 7: They were sluggish against the Chiefs with their third string quarterback.

1023
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 7: Remember that Thursday night game against the Raiders middle of

1024
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 7: the season, when the home fans were booing the performance

1025
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 7: that the Broncos had. They I saw a stat the

1026
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 7: other day that if you took every one score game

1027
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 7: this year and flipped it to the other outcome, the

1028
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 7: Broncos would be four and twelve. So it's so I

1029
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 7: trust the Broncos that the Broncos are the one seed

1030
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 7: and the Patriots have to go there. I trust the

1031
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 7: Patriots if they're the one seed in the Bronco have

1032
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 7: to go there in the wild card. Over all of this,

1033
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 7: Josh Allen gets healthy because I think his foot really

1034
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 7: is bothering him. He's doing everything he can to create

1035
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 7: the impression it isn't. I think it is. I think

1036
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 7: it's one of the reasons he rushed the throw that

1037
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 7: he missed the Khalils Shakir to win the game against

1038
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 7: the Equals on Sunday. This is a perfect opportunity for

1039
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 7: Josh Allen with no Mahomes, no Borrow, maybe no Lamar Jackson,

1040
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 7: no excuses. Even if they're the sixth seed. Josh Allen

1041
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 7: is good enough to take the Bills into all those

1042
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 7: places and get the win. He's got the experience, he's

1043
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 7: got the incentive. And that's the guy who I think

1044
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 7: is hovering over this whole Bonnick Strake may thing time.

1045
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 5: For two more.

1046
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: It's Mike Florio, pro Footballtalk dot Com author most recent

1047
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Big Shield Alec.

1048
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 6: That Mike, you mentioned Falcons Saints for Sunday, and I mean,

1049
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 6: as someone who covers a team in the league like

1050
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 6: the Falcons intrigue me in many ways.

1051
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 5: I just wonder what your.

1052
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 6: Read is on the Kurt situation moving forward, and really

1053
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 6: that regime in its entirety, which has had an interesting

1054
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 6: year and obviously an interesting run.

1055
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 7: They're in a weird kind of spot, Alec, because they're

1056
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 7: not so good that we pay attention to them all

1057
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 7: the time, and they're not so bad that they're a

1058
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 7: laughing stock where we just assume it's all going to

1059
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 7: get blown up. They have shown that they can show

1060
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 7: up and play in important spots. They're four and one

1061
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 7: at night this year and three and eight in afternoon games.

1062
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 7: Think about that, so they can They're capable of having

1063
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 7: good performances against good teams in pressure spots, and then

1064
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 7: they get you know, they get blown out by the Panthers,

1065
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 7: or they lose to the Dolphins in ugly fashion when

1066
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 7: the Dolphins were one and six. They got blown out

1067
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 7: at home by the Dolphins when they were when the

1068
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 7: Dolphins were one and six. So I said this on Tuesday,

1069
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 7: the morning after the win over the Rams. They really

1070
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 7: need to figure out what exactly is going on in

1071
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 7: that organization. Every possible layer and level, every question that

1072
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 7: could be asked needs to be answered about how they

1073
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 7: can get more out of this team. And the Kirk

1074
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 7: situation unbelievable. He's clearly our best option right now, but

1075
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 7: they own forty five million next year and he's still upset.

1076
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 7: As upset as Kirk is ever going to get about

1077
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 7: the fact that forty three days after they gave him

1078
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 7: his contract that supposedly had multi year security, they drafted

1079
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 7: the guy eighth overall who replaced him at the end

1080
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 7: of last season, and now they need him. You think

1081
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 7: he's going to give.

1082
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 5: Them a deal.

1083
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 7: Do you think he's going to cut his pay below

1084
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 7: forty five million? Nope, So I think he could be

1085
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 7: out on the market again. And he's played well enough

1086
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 7: down the stretch he's going to get paid again by someone.

1087
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 7: It's just a very very strange situation in Atlanta. There

1088
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 7: was a report over the weekend from Jay Glazer that

1089
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 7: Matt Ryan maybe back in a significant role in the

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Speaker 7: front office. They got some decisions to make after they

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Speaker 7: figure out exactly what in the world it is that

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Speaker 7: has caused this team to be so good at night

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Speaker 7: and so mediocre or worse by day. And they got

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Speaker 7: to figure it out because they have They've gone eight

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Speaker 7: years without a postseason appearance, and they've got some talented players,

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Speaker 7: and it's time for them to finally get the most

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Speaker 7: out of the guys they have.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, a couple of segments from now, we are going

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Speaker 1: to identify NFC teams we believe have excellent chances to

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Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Let me let me hit you with this to close.

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Speaker 1: How surprised or would you be surprised if the Chicago

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Speaker 1: Bears went to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised at all, but you know, Sunday

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Speaker 7: night when they were going toe to toe with the

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Speaker 7: forty nine ers, and I think that game actually did

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Speaker 7: more good for them than bad. You take away the

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Speaker 7: fact that they lost. I think it showed that they

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Speaker 7: can compete with anyone. When Caleb Williams threw that ball

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Speaker 7: from midfield that frozen rope to Colston Loveland, there was

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Speaker 7: just like blink of an eye, like what the hell

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Speaker 7: just happened? Like there aren't many guys that make that throw.

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Speaker 7: This guy's got a level of talent and ability that

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Speaker 7: if it surfaces in the postseason, and you know, I

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Speaker 7: think about a Joe Burrow. Joe Borrow is a guy

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Speaker 7: that when he gets to the post season he finds

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Speaker 7: an extra level of superman that we don't see in

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Speaker 7: the regular season. We see he's great in the regular season.

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Speaker 7: In the postseason, he's better than great. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 7: fascinated to see what Caleb Williams looks like when it's

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Speaker 7: time to play single elimination football, because he makes some

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Speaker 7: bad throws from time to time, like the easy throws

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Speaker 7: will sail it over our guy's head, and then he

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Speaker 7: makes some of these throws that are just wow, and

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Speaker 7: it happens so fast you really don't appreciate how impressive

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Speaker 7: it is. So it would not surprise me if Caleb

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Speaker 7: Williams when it's say, because everything changes when it goes

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Speaker 7: single elimination. If he steps up to a higher level

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Speaker 7: and he's consistent with all the easy stuff, the Bears

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Speaker 7: very possibly will be playing in Santa Clara again. Possibly well,

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Speaker 7: not against the forty nine ers again. They may have

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Speaker 7: to play him again in Santa Clara, but they could

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Speaker 7: be back in Santa Clara. And wouldn't it be great?

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Speaker 7: And I know this is a long shot, but wouldn't

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Speaker 7: it be great if it was Steelers Bears for the

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Speaker 7: Super Bowl? If Aaron Rodgers got one last shot at

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Speaker 7: the team he claims to own in the highest possible

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Speaker 7: both setting with the steakes of all steaks riding on it.

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Speaker 7: So any Super Bowl combination this year, I think is

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Speaker 7: going to be fascinating, but that one would be something else.

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Speaker 1: Mike, Happy New Year to you and your family. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for the Friday run, Mike Florio, Ladies and gentlemen PF

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Speaker 1: you know we he all love.

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Speaker 5: The website Pro Football Talk dot Com. Thanks Mike, call

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Speaker 5: you soon, do you guys?

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Speaker 7: Have a new Year.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Mike Florio, ProFootball Talk dot Com. Second

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Speaker 1: hour of the nine to noon Friday football Feast of

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Wild Wings. Egan is in the air and our

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Speaker 1: fantasy twist to the equation is next