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Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie and Savannah Guthrie's mother, no sign of anything,

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Speaker 1: and now they're basically pleading with the kidnappers to say

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Speaker 1: can tell, no leads. There's no anything that's making them

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Speaker 1: reinvestigate one of the family members. But it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things that kind of makes you think a little bit, Paxton,

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Speaker 1: what did you want to bring up about it?

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, and I don't really I don't

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Speaker 2: know why this is just kind of bothering me. But

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why this particular disappearance has been getting

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Speaker 1: No, I think a lot of people have thought that too,

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Speaker 1: And I think it is because, I mean, Savannah Guthrie

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Speaker 1: But yeah, there's like more resources than if somebody else,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we totally think about that. Yeah, But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, I will say she's eighty four

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Speaker 1: not that I can't quite put my finger on it,

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Speaker 1: but it is just a different level of tragic and

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Speaker 4: Well, I will also say nothing dark. Last week, little

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Speaker 1: I didn't cover that in this in the dirt. Actually, well, yeah.

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Speaker 4: But it's not on the Today Show. We're not talking

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Speaker 4: but I just barely heard about it. And then his

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Speaker 4: that hasn't made mainstream coverage. Oh I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they found out I think over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: I feel she's exactly what I'm talking about, even though

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Speaker 2: he is rich and famous as well, you know what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, because yeah, you would think, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: Well you think go missing every day? Do you think

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit because of how different this was.

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Speaker 1: We hear about missing people often enough that we go

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Speaker 1: Who we said this all last week? Who does that?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: So what the public pays attention to, maybe that's what

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's also because it's kind of spooky,

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Speaker 1: It is a little it is spooky, and I think

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Speaker 1: why is Savanah Guthrie getting so much coverage when there's

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Speaker 1: At the time, text message says at KATWB one, I

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Speaker 1: Another one says, I think I think the son in

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Speaker 1: law had something to do with it. They looked at

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Speaker 1: that's talking about it so much. She's a celebrity, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know that, but other celebrities who have had

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Speaker 3: Is no update, right, So well, I think there has been.

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Speaker 3: And she said they're not actually giving us all those

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Speaker 3: This text says, I think it's getting the coverage it's

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Speaker 3: getting because of the ransom. And that's why it's odd

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Speaker 3: because of because not all disappearances have a ransom with it.

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Speaker 1: True, because this is more like a kidnapping, because like

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Speaker 1: if you know, like your usual eighteen year old or

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Speaker 1: because you don't really hear about kidnappings anymore. Most of

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Speaker 1: them they don't have any intention of giving anybody back.

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Speaker 1: What's the difference once one's a ransom and one does not.

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Speaker 1: So example, if somebody like I don't know, abducts their

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Speaker 1: bed for eighty one days. There's a podcast called eighty

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Speaker 1: one days, you know what I'm talking about. No, he

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Speaker 1: didn't have any intention that he didn't have any intention

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Speaker 1: Let's say if I kidnapped Bailey and I wanted ransom

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Speaker 1: of like, you know, five dollars. Yeah, that's a lot,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, well, I'm gonna drop her off

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Speaker 1: Guess what the cops are going to be waiting there

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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, exactly. It's not gonna work.

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Speaker 3: Back in the day, it would be less easy to do,

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Speaker 3: like LESSI to attract you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah right.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Paxton, thanks for bringing it up. It's definitely a worthy,

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Speaker 1: a worthy thing to bring up.

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Speaker 2: Sure, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you bet, all right,