Speaker 1: Well, well, happy New Year to you. An ugly Liverty
Speaker 1: Bowl experience for the football bear Cats thirty five thirteen
Speaker 1: Navies midshipman handling them relatively easily. How you doing? It's
Speaker 1: sterling sick for a second New Year's in a row,
Speaker 1: hopped up on goofballs and Nike will and we'll try
Speaker 1: to get this out of our systems. You know, let's
Speaker 1: do this. I would like to open up the phones
Speaker 1: immediately if we can. And what I would like to
Speaker 1: do is see exactly where people stand and feel about
Speaker 1: this Cincinnati football bear Cat team. And you know, you
Speaker 1: talk about the portal, You talk about guys being able
Speaker 1: to go from one school to another and better their
Speaker 1: situation and have really the ability to move like a
Speaker 1: lot of us in the regular world of going to
Speaker 1: make some money and make the most money we can
Speaker 1: for the work that we do. And certainly that's what
Speaker 1: these young college athletes are doing. But you get a
Speaker 1: quarterback who you know, bounces out because there's opportunity to
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. I have a lot of questions about
Speaker 1: the inner workings of how that plays. Does that mean
Speaker 1: that the future school that they may be going to
Speaker 1: once they enter the portal has reached out to them
Speaker 1: or their management and said, hey, we're looking for you
Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring you know whatever amount of cash
Speaker 1: money to you. And then you kind of go, all right, well,
Speaker 1: i don't need to be there for that bowl game.
Speaker 1: I'm moving on up or in this situation. And coaches
Speaker 1: have been doing it for a long time. Cincinnati's dealt
Speaker 1: with that too, And what was interesting to hear Dan
Speaker 1: Horde and you know, you know, think about that with
Speaker 1: Tony Pike and you hear not so much of it,
Speaker 1: and be interested to hear coaches show about this because
Speaker 1: a lot of people hating on Saturfy like it's his fault.
Speaker 1: Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But what is wild
Speaker 1: to me is you look at this and you kind
Speaker 1: of go, I guess the regular season is the regular season,
Speaker 1: and then you get to boll time, and unless you're
Speaker 1: in a top tier college football playoff bowl scenario or
Speaker 1: something like that, or the school's already backed up the
Speaker 1: truck forverbially speaking, to give you whoever it is that
Speaker 1: is looking to bounce a way to stay because they're
Speaker 1: going to bring them more love when it comes to
Speaker 1: cash money. Because that's what this is all about. Then,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you navigate this. And what was
Speaker 1: interesting is during the broadcast is they're talking about Navy,
Speaker 1: and they talk about Army, and they're talking about the
Speaker 1: military teams in general. Those guys don't have the portability
Speaker 1: because they're in the military. They may be going to school,
Speaker 1: they may be student athletes, but in the end, they're
Speaker 1: still in a situation where effectively they're on the hook
Speaker 1: for whatever amount of years that they're giving up to
Speaker 1: serve this nation in a uniform in some capacity. And
Speaker 1: UC doesn't have that luxury. Kentucky doesn't have that luxury. Indiana,
Speaker 1: who continues to play on in the College Football Playoff,
Speaker 1: does not have that luxury. No one else but these
Speaker 1: military teams. So that's an interesting wrinkle to it. Five one, three, seven, four,
Speaker 1: ninety seven, eight hundred, the big one. You can pick
Speaker 1: up the phone, give it the finger, as mister k
Speaker 1: used to say, go old friend of mine. You can
Speaker 1: talk back on the iHeartRadio app. We have a lot
Speaker 1: of ground to cover. Later on, by the way, we'll
Speaker 1: talk to Chick Ludwig. We'll break down the Bengals game
Speaker 1: as they wrap up their season. We'll talk a little
Speaker 1: bit more about portability and how the college game has
Speaker 1: been forever changed, at least until they do something different,
Speaker 1: I suppose is the best way to look at that.
Speaker 1: We'll also talk to uc Helse doctor Christine O'Shea about
Speaker 1: living better in the new year and getting healthy and
Speaker 1: navigating perhaps what is an extended long holiday hit the
Speaker 1: bottle kind of over celebration situation in the new year
Speaker 1: that is just a baby twenty twenty six, as well
Speaker 1: as the flu season, which I do not know if
Speaker 1: I have the flu or not. I called the doctor
Speaker 1: and they were like, don't come here, go to the
Speaker 1: urgent care, which sort of defeats the purpose of having,
Speaker 1: you know, a doctor is sort of the way I
Speaker 1: look at it. So we'll talk to her about that
Speaker 1: as well. Doctor Dona Schlit going to join us former
Speaker 1: out of political science at Right State talk about the
Speaker 1: terrorist attack that was foiled thanks to the FBI. She
Speaker 1: wrote the first textbook on terrorism, so we'll get into
Speaker 1: her head about the threat and how much greater or
Speaker 1: not as great as it is in the past and
Speaker 1: in the United States, and the danger that is out there.
Speaker 1: So in the meantime, give you a chance to sound
Speaker 1: off about those football Bearcats, about this Bowl loss thirty
Speaker 1: five thirteen to Navy West Side. David is first Jay
Speaker 1: after that in Room for You, and again the number
Speaker 1: seven four nine, seven, eight hundred, the big one was Sterling, David,
Speaker 1: I appreciate your patience. Happy New Year, and how about
Speaker 1: those football Bearcats.
Speaker 2: Happy new Year, Sterling, loveless Dentilia and just right when
Speaker 2: you started it got me five. I'm a season ticket
Speaker 2: older for both basketball and football, and uh, I just
Speaker 2: basically have gotten to the point where I keep telling
Speaker 2: and Joko and my friends were, we're mediocre. We're just
Speaker 2: happy to be okay, and I'm tired of its.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the right way to live.
Speaker 2: I know I agree with it. And we we're Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: for God's sakes. We've got we you know. Brian Kelly
Speaker 2: and uh Luke Fickle put us back on the map.
Speaker 2: Bob Huggins put us on the map, and Luke and
Speaker 2: Nick Crony kind.
Speaker 3: Of kept us there.
Speaker 2: And I don't know what this athletic director and Pinto
Speaker 2: on down. They just don't care and they don't realize
Speaker 2: that sports, Yes, academics drive at university but shoot me,
Speaker 2: academics drive university with sports really drives it because of
Speaker 2: the reputation and that I'm I'm I'm so depressed. I'm
Speaker 2: just tired of just sucking.
Speaker 1: I really wasn't trying to bring it down, but it is.
Speaker 1: It's a difficult circumstance that we're all sort of navigating.
Speaker 1: What I wonder is this because I mean, here's a
Speaker 1: football program at the University of Cincinnati. It's only been
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve a little while. They've got to
Speaker 1: navigate trying to find players and bring them in to say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're trying to get to the next level in the
Speaker 1: Big twelve and there and they're having to compete with
Speaker 1: everybody else. So I mean, this whole circumstance is a
Speaker 1: lot more challenging and difficult than anything that's been navigated before.
Speaker 1: How much in short oord because it go about thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: I want to be on time for news for once
Speaker 1: this year to start yep and go from there. I mean,
Speaker 1: who do you blame the most? Is it the system?
Speaker 1: Is it the university and the way they navigated which
Speaker 1: is what you initially said, or.
Speaker 3: What great question?
Speaker 2: I think it all? I mean it starts with winning.
Speaker 2: And that's what Sadderfield got brought in to do, to win,
Speaker 2: and that starts with John Counningham for hiring him. You've
Speaker 2: got to go with the tools that you have, and
Speaker 2: when you start winning, that can take.
Speaker 3: A little bit less.
Speaker 4: You can make a little bit. You can make.
Speaker 2: Another player come this way. If you're winning, you're getting
Speaker 2: on TV and you're doing some great things, and then
Speaker 2: they may take a little bit less to come there.
Speaker 2: But it's all about reputation. It's all about perception, and
Speaker 2: it starts at the top. And you know what, that's
Speaker 2: where he's getting paid for it, and he's not doing
Speaker 2: his job.
Speaker 1: David, I hope you have a great in.
Speaker 3: In my opinion.
Speaker 1: My opinion, Well I got you. I mean, the record
Speaker 1: is the record. The final score tonight is the final
Speaker 1: score of this Liberty Bowl in Memphis, which I love
Speaker 1: Memphis barbecue. By the way, thirty five thirteen Bearcats falled
Speaker 1: in Navy? What else you got before I bounce you
Speaker 1: your final thought.
Speaker 3: I'll leave you go on. That's the good news?
Speaker 2: Was is I bet against the Bearcats on draftings that
Speaker 2: I cast in.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's terrible, Greg Jay Terry others will hit
Speaker 1: the phones after or NOTHINGY know, what's going on? A
Speaker 1: rim planet Earth And here in the Tri State it's
Speaker 1: a Friday, sterling. The weekend is here. Bearcat's a tough
Speaker 1: time in Memphis town as they fall to Navy. Give
Speaker 1: you a chance to sound off straight away seven hundred
Speaker 1: wulw that after falling in Memphis the Liberty Bowl for
Speaker 1: the shipman midshipman of a Navy thirty five thirty. The
Speaker 1: portal and ability for players to move around bit the
Speaker 1: Bearcats at the back end, maybe a little bit. Some
Speaker 1: say it was at Sadderfield, or some say it's the
Speaker 1: way it was managed to the university. I think it's
Speaker 1: challenging in general, probably for any program, let alone bounce
Speaker 1: it into a relatively new to the big twelve stills
Speaker 1: trying to figure that out, get to the next level
Speaker 1: in this But and I'm not trying to be an apologist.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna know what you think. Five point three seven
Speaker 1: four nine seven eight hundred the big one long holiday
Speaker 1: weekend last couple of weeks. I'll disjoin it with the
Speaker 1: holidays falling in the middle of the week. I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of curious, do you think that now because everybody thought, well,
Speaker 1: this is the way a team can get better fast
Speaker 1: by going out effectively with free agency and getting players
Speaker 1: that were sort of held hostage previously when they're athletic
Speaker 1: directors or coaches would regularly bounce. Cincinnati dealt with it.
Speaker 1: Other schools have dealt with it with their head coach,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden disappears before a bowlgamer Otherwise.
Speaker 1: Now you get starting quarterbacks going in what a portal time,
Speaker 1: bouncing somewhere else. They're back in the truck up to
Speaker 1: pay me, and you kind of got to figure out, well, then,
Speaker 1: what level are you on when it comes to the
Speaker 1: money that you can bring for these players, because like
Speaker 1: all of us, they're looking out for themselves because they
Speaker 1: have to. Five point three seven four nine seven eight
Speaker 1: hundred the big one Mount Carmel, Terry, appreciate your holding
Speaker 1: with Sterling. Happy new year here on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: What's going on, Sterling?
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 1: I think I'm all right as far as I know you.
Speaker 4: Hey, I think I think money is completely ruined this sport.
Speaker 4: I don't agree with this this transfer porter at all
Speaker 4: to me. The stores beat character that kind of epitomizes
Speaker 4: that he hasn't even picked what school he goes to
Speaker 4: and he sells out his team. Yeah, I just I
Speaker 4: just think it's completely Runney. Is this completely run college football?
Speaker 4: I mean, what if I get a scholarship? I mean,
Speaker 4: how do we deal with that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: So if somebody gets a scholarship, do they get to
Speaker 4: take the scholarship with them? If they transfer up their
Speaker 4: another school.
Speaker 1: That's probably up for negotiation, right how many?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't blame Thater for it. I mean this
Speaker 4: is like the second year in a row this has happened.
Speaker 3: Do you see it?
Speaker 4: You know, with a transfer porter and all these guys
Speaker 4: lean to get a bowl game. I mean, to me,
Speaker 4: you know if they shouldn't be allowed you know, it
Speaker 4: is what it is. But to me, they shouldn't be
Speaker 4: allowed to transfer out. You have you know, you're done
Speaker 4: with the season, you get a bowl game. You know,
Speaker 4: that's just basically it didn't play your ball game? Didn't
Speaker 4: you transfer out? Because to me, just like to sell
Speaker 4: them uc out man. Basically, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sure, no terror, I appreciate the comments. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's a tough spot. I mean, what do you do
Speaker 1: if you're a parent, and I don't mean of a
Speaker 1: current student who's a fan. I'm talking about if you're
Speaker 1: a parent of a player who's lucky enough to have
Speaker 1: the talent and have somehow found their way to the
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati or any other school around the country
Speaker 1: that gets to a point where it's bowl season and
Speaker 1: you're on the cuspa of being at the ball And
Speaker 1: it wasn't just quarterback. I mean a lot of other
Speaker 1: guys do the same thing. And it was really an
Speaker 1: amazing thing and arguably somewhat surprising that this Bearcats football
Speaker 1: team did as well as they did. I mean, and
Speaker 1: maybe I'm a little like being soft as far as
Speaker 1: the critical nature of the way that I'm looking at it,
Speaker 1: but I mean, it's challenging. I'm not sure how you
Speaker 1: navigate that unless you're at a higher level with more money.
Speaker 1: But if you're a parent, or if you're a player
Speaker 1: or those counseling them, and you're looking at, well, do
Speaker 1: I play in this ballgame and I can get my
Speaker 1: leg broken, I can get my shoulder ripped off, I
Speaker 1: could get a Joe Burrow toe situation or something else
Speaker 1: along those lines. And then wherever you were trying to
Speaker 1: go probably not the opportunity that you thought it was
Speaker 1: going to be, and then you kind of go, well,
Speaker 1: where do you fall where you are, whether it's at
Speaker 1: UC or another school, in that sipe of situation, it's
Speaker 1: very difficult. And unless you have a contract that is
Speaker 1: written with the player the way you would at the
Speaker 1: pro level or in just about any other business that says,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. You stay for a bowl game if
Speaker 1: it's at this level, and there's this kind of bonus money,
Speaker 1: and then there's that kind and I don't when I
Speaker 1: talk to Chick Ludwig later, who's covered Bengals and bear
Speaker 1: Cats and everything else from the ND five hundred do
Speaker 1: you name it? You hear him here on the Big
Speaker 1: One all the time. You'll hear him getting you ready
Speaker 1: for some stuff tomorrow night here on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: He'll join me in just well less than an hour
Speaker 1: now and we'll talk about all of this as well.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, as a fan to U see, as
Speaker 1: a parent, to U see students, as someone who is
Speaker 1: in and around the tri State, how much of this
Speaker 1: it's sort of I'm trying to think of the best
Speaker 1: way I can describe it. There was a point in
Speaker 1: time when I was a kid, and it was very
Speaker 1: short because I'm in the window of maybe the generation
Speaker 1: before me as a Reds fan, as a Bengals fan,
Speaker 1: where you had guys that you grew up watching and
Speaker 1: hearing being talked about on the big one, and you
Speaker 1: go to Riverfront and then Synergy and then pay Corps,
Speaker 1: and then you would watch and at some point in
Speaker 1: that window of time when I was a tiny sterling,
Speaker 1: you'd see these players that would then be able to
Speaker 1: go to another team to better their financial situation with
Speaker 1: free agency and so forth, and all those things that
Speaker 1: have changed the game and the portability of the pro
Speaker 1: player in some ways has made it very difficult to
Speaker 1: have that same type of good feeling after that first
Speaker 1: contract or two coming up from the minor leagues in
Speaker 1: baseball or otherwise, and even in the NFL now, I mean,
Speaker 1: things have changed a bit, but the college thing, it's
Speaker 1: not as pure as is one would hope it would
Speaker 1: be in that regard. But the idea I've heard. I
Speaker 1: had a neighbor given me grief yesterday about this. It
Speaker 1: wasn't really grief. Let me just say he was complaining
Speaker 1: he was bitching and moaning about it, and he was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, it's unfair and these kids should just stay
Speaker 1: and all this or what about the student athlete, Well,
Speaker 1: they haven't just been student athletes for a long time,
Speaker 1: and there have been coaches that have been making millions
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars for a long time. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago that Maurice Clarek, for instance, and
Speaker 1: a lot of other players around, and he was at
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Of course, who ends up getting involved in
Speaker 1: something else trying to us to make a little bit
Speaker 1: of extra money. I think he sold like one of
Speaker 1: those little trinkets or something with the you know, the
Speaker 1: pants that are gold or whatever for the Buckeyes to
Speaker 1: sit and chickle. Know that because he lives it and
Speaker 1: breezes it. But in that situation, you know, they couldn't
Speaker 1: even take a part time job the way I did
Speaker 1: working at the college radio station, because it would cross
Speaker 1: the line of one them being able to do what
Speaker 1: they're doing for a football program or a basketball program,
Speaker 1: depending whatever it is. And that also it would as
Speaker 1: their favorability because there's something impropriety wise being looked at
Speaker 1: or talked about in the way that you know their
Speaker 1: finances are done compared to someone else is very odd.
Speaker 1: And it's been that way, or was that way for
Speaker 1: a long long time. Now what we're seeing is sort
Speaker 1: of the real world in a small little window that
Speaker 1: we thought with something else is pure. Now it's just
Speaker 1: like everything else. I suppose. I'm not quite sure what
Speaker 1: it means to us as fans. But if you're a
Speaker 1: player in that situation, what else you're gonna do protect
Speaker 1: yourself and your future? I mean, it's on to the
Speaker 1: next one. Mount healthy, David, you're with Sterling five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one. What about these football Bearcats
Speaker 1: who fell in Navy tonight thirty five thirteen at the
Speaker 1: Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know, Saturfield probably isn't the right guy
Speaker 6: to be head coach bat Higher.
Speaker 3: But really, what I wanted.
Speaker 6: To say is it's time to get rid of the
Speaker 6: Bowl games.
Speaker 3: Right their time has passed.
Speaker 6: They were nice, but the world's moved on and their
Speaker 6: meaningless exhibition games. And if you're not going to get
Speaker 6: rid of all of the Bowl games, should at least
Speaker 6: reduce them down to a couple handful.
Speaker 1: And the problem you know that might be the case.
Speaker 1: So the only ones you keep are what the college
Speaker 1: football playoff and then the rest of the teams do
Speaker 1: what in the smaller conferences or teams that aren't quite there.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, if you don't make the playoffs, I mean,
Speaker 6: your season's over, just like if you don't make the
Speaker 6: you know, the big tournament. I guess they could start
Speaker 6: doing littler playoffs.
Speaker 3: Or something like that.
Speaker 6: You know, everyone's always gonna try to want to make money,
Speaker 6: but frankly they should just you know, if you're out
Speaker 6: playing exhibition, it's contact football. People are going to get hurt,
Speaker 6: So there's no reason for supposed to be risking that
Speaker 6: kind of stuff. But the game's meaningless.
Speaker 4: Do you play games.
Speaker 6: Football games that have meaning to them because it's such
Speaker 6: a risky, high impact sport.
Speaker 1: Well, you're quite right in a fashion. I mean, for
Speaker 1: a long time, there have been so many, you know,
Speaker 1: Bowl games in the first place, that it was like overwhelming.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, day after day after day week
Speaker 1: it seems like a couple of weeks there's been Bowl
Speaker 1: games almost twenty four to seven. I'm only exaggerating a
Speaker 1: little bit. So you know, you bring good yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, when you have six and six teams and five
Speaker 6: and seven teams and seven and six teams, you know, competing,
Speaker 6: it's it's frankly, it's poor competition. And uh yeah, and
Speaker 6: that's why I know I was up to play. And
Speaker 6: this leads everyone frustrated. So we it's time for the
Speaker 6: world to move on.
Speaker 1: David, I appreciate the com man, thank you. And that's
Speaker 1: challenging because you have all these sponsors, you have all
Speaker 1: these cities, you have all these stadiums, you have all
Speaker 1: these college football teams, and the idea of some type
Speaker 1: of celebration on a mediocre or six and you know,
Speaker 1: a five hundred season, you get to a bowl game
Speaker 1: of some sort. But there's TV money at stake, and
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money. So maybe you have a
Speaker 1: larger pool of money from each of these bowl games
Speaker 1: that goes to the players on top of it to
Speaker 1: make it worth their while to stay I suppose, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I'm just you know, spitballing thinking of ideas here
Speaker 1: that might actually avoid a circumstance like the you know,
Speaker 1: everybody who's a football Bearcat fan and a whole lot
Speaker 1: of other teams around the country having to sort of
Speaker 1: make sense of what this circumstance is here as well.
Speaker 1: If you didn't hear it earlier, if you didn't watch
Speaker 1: it earlier, you're on the road hanging out out you know,
Speaker 1: long New Year's Weekend, seven hundred WLW Sterling hanging out,
Speaker 1: Dan Hord earlier, Tony Pike, mowegor you heard him from Memphis,
Speaker 1: the Liberty Bowl, Navy all over, the Cincinnati Bearcats thirty
Speaker 1: five thirteen. And you get a quarterback who bails out
Speaker 1: onto the next school. Perhaps you're right for more money.
Speaker 1: That's what it's about. Other players as well, So they
Speaker 1: got to go deeper into the depth chart. And these
Speaker 1: military teams say, that's a very interesting circumstance because you
Speaker 1: can't just bail out on the military. You go a waywall.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm gonna go to another school and make more money. No,
Speaker 1: you'll go to prison, You'll go to the brig You
Speaker 1: can't do that. It's different for everybody else. The Green
Speaker 1: Township in Nate was Sterling on seven hundred WLW Nate.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 1: That's you know, if you're a Bearcats fan, not good.
Speaker 1: But otherwise I've got the flu. I'm fine, I'm hopped
Speaker 1: up on caffeine and emergency. I'm great.
Speaker 7: That's good. Yeah, this is gonna get a lot, but
Speaker 7: I'm try get our quickly. For so, I think the
Speaker 7: way that you fix this this whole thing is one
Speaker 7: you've got to have some sort of clause and coaches
Speaker 7: contracts five or ten million dollars at the school that
Speaker 7: they're going to go to has to pay as a fee,
Speaker 7: which is you know, small peanuts for some schools. But
Speaker 7: I think there should be a coaching change window, much
Speaker 7: like the transfer portal window opening that starts after the
Speaker 7: college football playoff concludes, and then the transfer portal doesn't
Speaker 7: open until after that's done. I think that's kind of
Speaker 7: the first thing. And then once that, once that all
Speaker 7: gets done, there also needs to be some some sort
Speaker 7: of penalization for the players that try to transfer that
Speaker 7: are going to stay in school, obviously, and if they're
Speaker 7: not going to stay in school, then there needs to
Speaker 7: be there's some elegitibility hits or something that stopped them
Speaker 7: from going to school to school, so that would keep
Speaker 7: if they're not declaring for the NFL draft, obviously, you
Speaker 7: know there's going to be some sort like it used
Speaker 7: to be. And if they are going to declare, then
Speaker 7: they can sit out the bowl game. But I think
Speaker 7: that there needs to be some sort of requirement that
Speaker 7: they also have to play in a bowl game if
Speaker 7: they're going to stay in school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting angle on that, and that could
Speaker 1: solve some of it. And then it's tough. I think
Speaker 1: you'll start hearing guys beg out because of some type
Speaker 1: of injury because when that portal comes staying in school
Speaker 1: or otherwise to another place. Because again, there's so much
Speaker 1: money at stake. I mean, unless it's just purely about winning,
Speaker 1: but let's be honest, this is about their future and
Speaker 1: making more money than they would likely make generally if
Speaker 1: they just graduated and got a real life job. So
Speaker 1: I mean, this is their chance to get as much
Speaker 1: as they can for as long as they can, because
Speaker 1: the NFL is certainly no guarantee.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a good point.
Speaker 1: It's tough. Well, I don't have any better ideas. I'm
Speaker 1: not hating on it. I'm just saying it's a lot
Speaker 1: to sort of process. I think, what's the thing my
Speaker 1: mom used to tell me when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: like an unintended consequences. Sometimes right you try and I've
Speaker 1: lived with this, or you try to do the right
Speaker 1: thing and try to be nice and it comes back
Speaker 1: and bite you. This might be it. I appreciate the
Speaker 1: call man. Thank you one more here before the break,
Speaker 1: Paul and Xenia. I played putt Putton Zenia and there
Speaker 1: was a horrible tornado there about fifty one years ago too,
Speaker 1: which I didn't mean to bring up bad times. Paul,
Speaker 1: how are you? Hell's everything?
Speaker 8: Well, I'm doing okay, staring. I just won't take this
Speaker 8: opportunity to race you and your mode On a related
Speaker 8: Happy New Years.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Happy New Year to you as well.
Speaker 1: What about these football bearcats in this situation with the portal.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the loss today was strictly that,
Speaker 1: but it certainly was a kick to the junk.
Speaker 8: Well starting as you probably know, the attard of me,
Speaker 8: the Labor Academy, Point and the Air Force Academy. They're
Speaker 8: all highly displined.
Speaker 3: They are.
Speaker 8: They are so much disperence than the average college team.
Speaker 8: And it comes as no surprise to.
Speaker 9: Me that that the Naval Academy mid Stippland they were
Speaker 9: going away over our recovered U versus centinary vertex.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's just the discipline. I think it's
Speaker 1: probably the players bouncing out to better their situation that
Speaker 1: may be contributed. But maybe fifty to fifty on that.
Speaker 1: It's tough to say, but I guess in the.
Speaker 8: Naval Academy, you commit as a prishman, and you're there
Speaker 8: four years to graduate, right, and then you stucking out
Speaker 8: after a freshman year, a sophomore year, you're you're there, Uh,
Speaker 8: you're there for the.
Speaker 1: Whole ride, correct, and then that three or five year
Speaker 1: hitch or whatever it is that they initially signed up
Speaker 1: to because they are serving this nation at the same
Speaker 1: time and then into the future a little bit differently
Speaker 1: than the rest of us, or at least most of us, right, and.
Speaker 8: They it really takes a different breed of human being
Speaker 8: to successfully complete a four year education in the West
Speaker 8: Point for the army, or the Naval Academy for the
Speaker 8: midshipman most definitely, or the Air Force Academy for the
Speaker 8: Air Force yep. I mean, they have to be truly dedicated, stilling,
Speaker 8: and they really have to want that is their goal,
Speaker 8: and they really have to want They put everything else aside,
Speaker 8: and they concentrate for four years to achieve their goal.
Speaker 1: That's true. It's true. I don't have that stick to
Speaker 1: it of just now, and I'm grown Paul. I appreciate
Speaker 1: the call, Happy New Year, take care of yourself. I
Speaker 1: appreciate the perspective and the take as well. Coming up
Speaker 1: after the nine o'clock report, we'll talk some movies with
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, Fat guys of the movie SI Forget. Go
Speaker 1: on Substack. We used to do this podcast together called
Speaker 1: Chubby and Stick, which is still somewhere out there in
Speaker 1: the cloud somewhere. You can stream it if you'd like to.
Speaker 1: What else we got going on? Oh, chick a logwig
Speaker 1: is going to join me. We'll talk more on Bearcats.
Speaker 1: We'll talk on Bengals Sunday as they wrap up their
Speaker 1: twenty five twenty six season, unfortunately in a playoffs for them.
Speaker 1: We'll give you more of a chance to sound off
Speaker 1: on this as well. A lot of ground to cover
Speaker 1: later on. Also, you see health doctor Christino Day going
Speaker 1: to talk about living better in the New year, being
Speaker 1: healthier and maybe trying to get rehydrated after a long
Speaker 1: New Year celebration, maybe consuming some adult beverages, if you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and as well as a nasty
Speaker 1: flu season and doctor Donas Schleck from Wright State, former
Speaker 1: head of political science, they are going to join us
Speaker 1: talk about terrorism and a foiled attack plan that they
Speaker 1: put the kaibash on over the new Year that the
Speaker 1: FBI has come out to talk about, and she put
Speaker 1: actually the first textbook of terrorism ever published out, So
Speaker 1: we'll get into her hat about that. A whole lot
Speaker 1: of other ground to cover tonight, Friday Night. Sterling on
Speaker 1: a tough one for the Cincinnati Football Bearcats in Memphis,
Speaker 1: falling in the Liberty Bowl to the Navy Midshipman thirty
Speaker 1: five thirteen on seven hundred WLW. It'll have. It's been
Speaker 1: two weeks of what seems like almost a weekend for
Speaker 1: most people. I've been working, but I know a whole
Speaker 1: lot of other people who have been burning up vacation,
Speaker 1: traveling all over Hill and Dale's to Grandma's house and
Speaker 1: everything else. And happy Neod here to you and yours
Speaker 1: is fine. Second of January twenty twenty six, rested, relaxed, fat, sassy, tanned,
Speaker 1: and I think he waited to get sick until he
Speaker 1: came home from vacation, Kevin Carr, Silver Gecko on the
Speaker 1: sub Stack, My Chubby and Stick Partner podcast gone by,
Speaker 1: and of course of fat guys at the movies. How
Speaker 1: are you? How's the family car? And Happy New Year? Brother?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Happy nud here. Yeah, everything's good. You're right. I
Speaker 3: did get sick. I was on vacation over Christmas. I
Speaker 3: got sick right when I was traveling home. So if
Speaker 3: you're gonna get sick on, that's the time to do
Speaker 3: it on your way back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not be miserable at the house rather than
Speaker 1: wherever it is that you go to sun yourself or
Speaker 1: ski or whatever it is that makes you happy. It's terrible.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean it's already no fun going home,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not thinking it already sucks to drive
Speaker 3: back or fly back or take a boat back or whatever.
Speaker 3: The return trip always is not nearly as fun as
Speaker 3: the anticipation of going. So yeah, but I know, I
Speaker 3: get hit by this blue and that thing. Oh that's
Speaker 3: no joke, man, No, it knocked me on my butt.
Speaker 1: It's been pretty bad for me for a couple of days,
Speaker 1: but no fever. So I came in trying to stay
Speaker 1: away from everybody, and I'll spray everything down in here.
Speaker 1: I've been bathing in like antibacterial stuff and hopped up
Speaker 1: on like emergency and goofball. So everything is fine.
Speaker 3: I'm good to hear get pulled over on the way home.
Speaker 1: I no, no, everything's fine. I'm not doing it while
Speaker 1: I'm here.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm just chugging the costs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, correct, everything's great. So think of it back
Speaker 1: at twenty five, because you know, you always tell us
Speaker 1: what's new and picks to watch and everything else. Is
Speaker 1: there anything new? This is a weird window of time,
Speaker 1: the way Christmas and New Year's has fallen. Is anything new?
Speaker 1: Before I start picking your brain about maybe what we've
Speaker 1: missed and stuff to catch up on from twenty five?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's like a couple of smaller things.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of times you get limited release stuff.
Speaker 3: The first weekend always that New Year, whatever that New
Speaker 3: Year's weekend is is always kind of an off weekend.
Speaker 3: So there's nothing big even like what was weird? Is
Speaker 3: there weren't any real big opening on Christmas Day movies?
Speaker 3: I mean there was Anna Condo, which I still want
Speaker 3: to see because it just looks stupid and fun. Ye,
Speaker 3: but there was a song sung Blue, which is that
Speaker 3: Neil Diamond tribute kind of. It's it's based on a
Speaker 3: true story starring Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson. And that's
Speaker 3: that's fine, But there was no big Christmas Day movie
Speaker 3: where sometimes things are like opening Christmas Day and I
Speaker 3: think that they knew that Avatar was gonna snuck the
Speaker 3: air out of the room, so they everyone just kind
Speaker 3: of vacated the next week and then this week is
Speaker 3: always a dead week and then we you know, hit
Speaker 3: it hard like next week with Primate, the Killer Chimpanzee
Speaker 3: movie and the in the green Land two movie. If
Speaker 3: it wasn't enough to watch Gerard Butler try to save
Speaker 3: his family from everything on the planet, uh, you got
Speaker 3: him coming back in this one as well.
Speaker 1: Nice, that's pretty good. Uh it is. First of all,
Speaker 1: let me ask you about this the movie that you
Speaker 1: just mentioned about Neil Diamond, But it's not really about him.
Speaker 1: That's about right, that's about these people who basically are
Speaker 1: a what do you want to call it a cover act?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, well they like to call themselves a Neil
Speaker 3: Diamond experience. You know, it's not even a tribute but inexperience. Uh,
Speaker 3: and it's it is based on a true story. There
Speaker 3: was a documentary about it about this guy who just
Speaker 3: loves Neil Diamond so much he kind of does the
Speaker 3: tribute band, meets another impersonator share her big thing is
Speaker 3: Patsy Klein. But then they work together to kind of
Speaker 3: do and they fall in love and they have this
Speaker 3: whole story. And with any story, there's ups and downs
Speaker 3: and good and bad things happening. And I mean that's
Speaker 3: it's a sweet enough story. It pushes all the right buttons.
Speaker 3: It's predictable, but you know that's the thing life kind
Speaker 3: of predictable for a lot of you. You know, you
Speaker 3: know something bad's gonna happen. You some know there's gonna
Speaker 3: be bouncing back and all that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a fine little movie. It does
Speaker 3: get a little heavy on the Neil Diamond songs, if
Speaker 3: you might. If you find that hard to believe.
Speaker 1: Well you got to be a fan of Neil Diamond,
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna watch anyway. Which it leads me
Speaker 1: to an interesting thing. I just read something that said
Speaker 1: one of the family members of I guess these people
Speaker 1: were not happy with the way they were portrayed or
Speaker 1: how the movie came out. Yet I've heard people say
Speaker 1: good things about the movie. So that's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: Great movie, but apparently not true to form, or at
Speaker 1: least the family members not happy with what they saw.
Speaker 3: What does that? Well, here's the thing when it comes
Speaker 3: to when it comes to true stories, is true, it's
Speaker 3: no one wants to see it. It's a boring movie.
Speaker 3: If everybody is always good and perfect and honest and
Speaker 3: above board, and nobody's like that. Everybody has their dark side,
Speaker 3: everybody has their flaws, everybody has their ups and downs
Speaker 3: and their good days and they're bad days. And so
Speaker 3: when I see a movie that's especially if it's even
Speaker 3: if it's a famous person biopic and it's like approved
Speaker 3: completely by the family, I was kind of like, well,
Speaker 3: that's probably not that good because you don't get the downside.
Speaker 3: Like there's a movie and there's still slight against Jesse Owens.
Speaker 3: He was an absolute hero. But there's a movie called
Speaker 3: Race that came out I don't ten years fifteen years ago,
Speaker 3: and it was a biopic about Jesse Owens and him
Speaker 3: going to the Olympics and winning and all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff, but it was like like produced by his family,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, not that Jesse Owens had these dark
Speaker 3: skeletons in the closet or anything like that, but there
Speaker 3: was Everybody has ups and downs, and everybody has good
Speaker 3: points and bad points, and the movie did feel a
Speaker 3: little bit sanitized, whereas if it's a you know, so
Speaker 3: it may have shown something that's true. It's just maybe
Speaker 3: the family didn't like what was shown. I'm not a
Speaker 3: biographer of this these people, but that's one of the
Speaker 3: things you run into or they feel that they focus
Speaker 3: too much on this because it made them look a
Speaker 3: certain way and not enough about this. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: like anything. If anyone did a story of your well,
Speaker 3: I don't know. For me, it could be one of
Speaker 3: those things I'd watched and I'd be like, well, you
Speaker 3: kind of improved on things.
Speaker 1: So I'm living the life. I could write it better
Speaker 1: than I'm living. Yes, I absolutely could for me anyway.
Speaker 1: Talking to Kevin Carr silver Gecko on Substack with Sterling
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. So all right, so let's move
Speaker 1: I guess back and look at at twenty five if possible,
Speaker 1: Because there are always so many things that are put
Speaker 1: out and now was streaming, it's even more so, what
Speaker 1: is there? I mean, I don't know how many have.
Speaker 1: If it's ten, if it's five, what are the like?
Speaker 1: If you miss this, must see go back stream it,
Speaker 1: find it because there are a lot of good things
Speaker 1: that just fall through the cracks because there's just simply
Speaker 1: so much stuff to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I mean like like certain ones. Obviously,
Speaker 3: people know I really loved Superman. You know that. You
Speaker 3: remember me talking about that, and that was that was
Speaker 3: a lot of fun. But but like some of that
Speaker 3: kind of maybe were lesser seen, and some of these
Speaker 3: are darker movies. I tend to fall into the horror appreciation.
Speaker 3: There was a movie that was called Good Boy and
Speaker 3: it came out I don't know, about four months ago,
Speaker 3: and it was about a dog and it's a horrory
Speaker 3: told from the dog's perspective. And it starts a dog
Speaker 3: named Indy. Who's who's Who's should be in the running
Speaker 3: for best actor of any category of anything. You know,
Speaker 3: it should he should get the oscar. Oh, he's a
Speaker 3: very good boy. And it's it's it's a really interesting approach,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's got The Best Being Subject as well,
Speaker 3: so that one is really good. If you haven't seen that,
Speaker 3: check that out. I think it's on shutter. You can
Speaker 3: probably find it elsewhere. I also was a big thing.
Speaker 3: You had two fantastic Stephen King adaptations. One of them
Speaker 3: was The Long Walk, which is difficult to watch, came
Speaker 3: out I think in this late August or late summer
Speaker 3: August area. Very difficult to watch because it has heavy
Speaker 3: devy subject matter. But it's a fantastic adaptation of the
Speaker 3: original Richard Bachmann book that Stephen King kind of wrote
Speaker 3: under a pseudonym back in the seventies. But he also
Speaker 3: did The Monkey Oggur Perkins, the son of Anthony Perkins
Speaker 3: who played Norman Bates. He directed this this over the top,
Speaker 3: crazy violent tale about this this this little uh well,
Speaker 3: it used to have like this symbol monkey had the symbols.
Speaker 3: They had to change it to him hitting a drum,
Speaker 3: the monkey with a drum for the movie.
Speaker 1: Well, what was that? Because they were going to sue
Speaker 1: them or they didn't like the way that the toy
Speaker 1: was being shown or something or what.
Speaker 3: I I think that some other company, like maybe it
Speaker 3: might have been like a toy story thing has a
Speaker 3: monkey with symbols, and so they said, let's just avoid
Speaker 3: that completely, even though the original story was a monkey
Speaker 3: with symbols. And it's just a bonkers movie. And if
Speaker 3: you like sort of these insane, over the top at
Speaker 3: darkly funny movies, the monkeys are fantastic. It's kind of
Speaker 3: off brand for Osbud Perkins because the stuff you saw
Speaker 3: long legs, I mean, that thing was heavy and grim.
Speaker 3: But this one, I mean, it's an over the top splatterfest.
Speaker 1: Well there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, you got
Speaker 1: to be in the right mood, but I'm all for that.
Speaker 1: Tell me. But I know you have others on the list,
Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking about this one battle after another.
Speaker 1: Is that one of those that you would say this
Speaker 1: is that this is one of the better ones of
Speaker 1: ninety five or five? Oh, I just flashed back thirty years.
Speaker 3: I'm about to say that that's pt Anderson, that's in
Speaker 3: his infancy. No, this one's good. I mean I'm not,
Speaker 3: I'm not the total acolyte of pt. Anderson, but this
Speaker 3: was a This was a good movie. It's one of
Speaker 3: those ensemble movies because Leonardo Dicapriro does a great job
Speaker 3: in it, Chase Infinity, who plays his daughter. She does
Speaker 3: a great job in it. Sean penn As wickedly evil
Speaker 3: as the bad guy. Excuse me. Vaneciel del Toro is
Speaker 3: a hoot in this movie. So that, yeah, that was
Speaker 3: worth seeing. If you've not seen it, it is an experience.
Speaker 3: It's a little long, so I do warn you about that,
Speaker 3: but actually want to know it's real bonkers. Check out
Speaker 3: Begonia sometimes. That's the one where Emma Stone plays like
Speaker 3: a CEO and Jesse Plemon's kidnaps her thinking she's an alien,
Speaker 3: shaves off her head and and and is keeping her
Speaker 3: in her his basement because he doesn't want her to
Speaker 3: he wants to stop the alien invasion. It is. It
Speaker 3: is chilling because you're like, you'd watch the movie and
Speaker 3: you'd be like, yeah, I know somebody like that. I
Speaker 3: don't know somebody who would who might try that, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And it's it's very very disturbing
Speaker 3: at times.
Speaker 1: She's made some really really good films, hasn't she amazing?
Speaker 3: Well? And this is It is directed by Yorgus Lathomos,
Speaker 3: who did poor things which she won what are her
Speaker 3: oscars for? So you see you see less of emastone
Speaker 3: in this one, then you do important.
Speaker 1: But you saw all of themistone, all of her, Yes
Speaker 1: she did, and that's not all bad as for sure.
Speaker 1: Anything else of the like well, because you mentioned from
Speaker 1: one two through Stephen King movies, Long Walk, The Monkey,
Speaker 1: Good Boys, Superman. Uh you mentioned Bona, what what else?
Speaker 3: Any weapons? Weapons is a great movie if you've not
Speaker 3: seen that one. It's directed by it's written directed by
Speaker 3: Zach Craiger. He did barbarian A couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: Originally started out in comedy doing the Whitest Kids you
Speaker 3: know and Lo and Behold. He's a brilliant horror director.
Speaker 3: So Weapons is a fantastic movie, almost impossible to spoil
Speaker 3: because it's so twisted and convo looted in what it's
Speaker 3: trying to do. It's uh, it's you keep guessing even
Speaker 3: if you know what's going to happen. So it's an
Speaker 3: Amy Madigan is fantastic in that movie.
Speaker 1: Nice, Okay, good good? I like it. Anything else of
Speaker 1: consequence before like, we let you rest and convalesce and
Speaker 1: do whatever it is you have to do. Hydrate, That's
Speaker 1: what I've been doing. I really I joke about the
Speaker 1: big drinks when we've gone to the movies together, whatever,
Speaker 1: in the catheter. But I have been consuming so much
Speaker 1: in the way of fluids to try to get through
Speaker 1: this sickness that a catheter, which I just went thinking about,
Speaker 1: might actually save me some time.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, well then the key is if you're sick,
Speaker 3: you don't want to have anything with too much caffeine
Speaker 3: in it. Now, you can have tea like to drink
Speaker 3: and so your soues your throat. But no, that's why
Speaker 3: you go with like sprite seven up.
Speaker 1: Water, dalyite whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, pedlte or you know, cater Raide or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: So this thirty ounce container the mug of ice coffee
Speaker 1: is a bad choice.
Speaker 3: Probably not a great idea. That's that's that's a lot
Speaker 3: of that's a lot of caffeine. Caffeine will dehydrate, you'll
Speaker 3: you'll expel more than you take in.
Speaker 1: That might explain my need to go Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but uh no, I would say. The only
Speaker 3: other thing I I I that that's really on my
Speaker 3: radar is you got the finale of Stranger Things that
Speaker 3: dropped on on it was it New Year's Eve or
Speaker 3: New Year's day. Uh, it was New Year's Eve and
Speaker 3: it was a great wrap up to the show. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to spoil or anything, but it's it's definitely
Speaker 3: worth checking out. If you've been waiting to borrow somebody's
Speaker 3: Netflix password, now's the time to do it. You've got
Speaker 3: there's forty two episodes, which amounts to, well, I don't
Speaker 3: know what one hundred and eighty six hours of Eve.
Speaker 1: Is really a lot?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's good. It's worth worth checking out.
Speaker 1: And did I read or did you didn't tell me something?
Speaker 1: Is there going to be a movie about that? Or
Speaker 1: is that just what I don't did? I?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, no. They they released the two hour series per
Speaker 3: me series finale. Did you like this week?
Speaker 1: I gotcha?
Speaker 3: And it made like twenty million dollars.
Speaker 1: That's better than a lot this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean and it was it was
Speaker 3: sort of that that like Batham event kind of one
Speaker 3: time one or two night thing. But I mean it
Speaker 3: is cinematic. It's a great to you know, sometimes you
Speaker 3: go and you watch like the two hour finale and
Speaker 3: you know, like that could have been forty five minutes. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: this one it does take its time and you have
Speaker 3: you definitely have a nice dinu maw you know day.
Speaker 3: It's not like they like wrap up the bad stuff
Speaker 3: and then roll credits. They they it's a little bit
Speaker 3: Return of the King trying to you know, wrap everything
Speaker 3: up at the end. So but it's worth it if
Speaker 3: you if you've stayed through all five seasons, you know,
Speaker 3: watch these twenty some year old kids graduate from high
Speaker 3: school or something like that. Yeah, and that's the kind of.
Speaker 1: Thing something to do, I suppose, Uh, yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: a weird thing. I'm wondering. Uh at this point, are
Speaker 1: there too many options? As far as you would.
Speaker 3: Never say that, No, I would never say that. That's
Speaker 3: that's like, that's like that's like what your wife's coming
Speaker 3: home like, sorry, honey, we're just having way too much sex.
Speaker 1: No, there's I mean, there's I've seen a lot of movies, now,
Speaker 1: not as many as you because it's been your life,
Speaker 1: but I uh, and I've had some sex. I gotta say,
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, I have never not once ever like compared
Speaker 1: I mean equality film to even bad sex. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean, you know, what's that whole thing,
Speaker 3: you know, like you have pizza, pizza, even bad pizzas good.
Speaker 1: Right, right, I mean, how many movies have you like, gone,
Speaker 1: this is a complete waste of time. I want to
Speaker 1: get the hell out of this theater or fallen asleep
Speaker 1: or otherwise. I mean, I have bolted out of theaters
Speaker 1: and gone across the hall because I'm like, I'm never
Speaker 1: getting that part of my life back. Ever, I've never
Speaker 1: been the mist of sex and gone. I got to
Speaker 1: get out of here maybe once.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I mean it's not a perfect comparison,
Speaker 3: but I mean it is. It is one of the
Speaker 3: but the whole these are too many options. I love
Speaker 3: the fact that we have options. I love the fact
Speaker 3: that there's more stuff than because this is the thing.
Speaker 3: You can bolt. You can bail if you start watching
Speaker 3: something and you're like this is boring, I can go
Speaker 3: to something else.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: God, do you remember the back everyone is complaining about
Speaker 3: too many options? Remember back in the day, we had
Speaker 3: three three channels Lucky maybe PBS was showing money Python.
Speaker 1: Well, but other than that, you're right, and and I
Speaker 1: and if you were like me, and we've discussed this before.
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, by the way, is silver Gecko on the
Speaker 1: sub stack talking movies and so forth with Stirling on
Speaker 1: the Big One. I mean, I thought my only purpose
Speaker 1: in life as a young tiny sterling was to hold
Speaker 1: the antenna and stand appropriately so we might be able
Speaker 1: to get more than the three. So we could get
Speaker 1: eet and sixteen out of Dayton. So we could get
Speaker 1: nineteen and then maybe twenty two out of Dayton. You know,
Speaker 1: in that type of situation and the weather was really good,
Speaker 1: maybe you get a Columbus station or an Indianapolis station.
Speaker 1: And that might have been if I took the foil
Speaker 1: and wrapped it around the top of the room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I grew up in Columbus. We had
Speaker 3: three stations and PBS and that was it. We didn't
Speaker 3: get independent TV stations until the mid eighties. And I
Speaker 3: remember we'd go up and visit my family in Cleveland.
Speaker 3: They had a couple of them. I thought it was
Speaker 3: great that channel surfing. You could go seven stations before
Speaker 3: you got back to the Brady Bunch again. So look,
Speaker 3: I mean, I will take more content over nothing any day.
Speaker 3: And I love the fact that people promote, Oh but
Speaker 3: Blockbuster's close, you can't. Oh, I'm sorry. You go to
Speaker 3: Blockbuster and you can't all agree on a movie and
Speaker 3: then it be out. You know, you can't wait six
Speaker 3: years to go see my best friend's wedding because the
Speaker 3: entire wall at Blockbuster's gone. No, I mean, you can
Speaker 3: just watch whatever you want to. I will never complain
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 1: There you go, don't complain. Options are good. It's good
Speaker 1: to have choices. I mean, yeah, that's the bottom line. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, thank you for making time. I know that
Speaker 1: you're convalescing. You're sickly, but tan and rested into the
Speaker 1: new year. So I wish you and the family car
Speaker 1: the best and I look forward to hanging out and
Speaker 1: talking more movies and whatever else comes in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Thank you for jo We'll talk to you later, absolutely, Man,
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. More sterling coming back sooner than later.
Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig's gonna join me on the other side of
Speaker 1: your nine thirty report. We got a Brady Hopkins with
Speaker 1: the news. Chick will join us. We'll talk on Bengals,
Speaker 1: and of course we'll talk on those football bear Cats
Speaker 1: as well, and the issue of portability, which there is
Speaker 1: no portability, by the way. With the scholarship Russ Jackson
Speaker 1: sort of helped dig deeper into that as we had
Speaker 1: a guy earlier and we were talking about Bearcats and
Speaker 1: the Navy midshipman and how that game played out earlier
Speaker 1: in the Liberty Bowl in Memphis. You heard it here
Speaker 1: on the Big One thirty five thirteen Bearcats fall to Navy.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Chick about the Bearcats. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: the portal and what that's done to well, you see,
Speaker 1: and a lot of other schools in the situation ahead,
Speaker 1: and about the Bengals who look to wrap up this
Speaker 1: season Sunday with the Browns making the trip down seventy
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Speaker 1: It's nice second day of January twenty twenty six. We'll
Speaker 1: get in conversation a little later about that poor eleven
Speaker 1: year old girl was shot at the Cincinnati playground and
Speaker 1: the issues with the family having a sort of not
Speaker 1: getting the attention I think of the love as it's
Speaker 1: been reported at the hospital that one would think they
Speaker 1: would be after losing their baby. We will get into
Speaker 1: that a bit later. Also, Doctor Donald schleg from Wright
Speaker 1: State former head of political science, going to talk on
Speaker 1: terrorism threats and the FBI putting the hammer down and
Speaker 1: at least stopping one of those that they've reported publicly
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. A lot of other
Speaker 1: stuff to get to as well. Chick, Ludwig kind that
Speaker 1: i'd give us some time, you know, Chick, you love chick.
Speaker 1: Coffee in hand, computer, all over, the Bengals, all over,
Speaker 1: the Bearcats. You covered everything in sport other than maybe
Speaker 1: ping pong and Indonesia gambling late at night, and maybe
Speaker 1: he did that too. I don't know, Chick. How are
Speaker 1: you happy New Year? How's everything?
Speaker 3: Fantastic? Sterling great to hear from me.
Speaker 10: As far as gambling goes, I do not gamble, but
Speaker 10: I think I made some folks some money because I
Speaker 10: told him to take Miami, the Hurricanes and the points.
Speaker 10: Oh so yeah, the buck eyes out right time.
Speaker 1: It was ugly. There was not a good thing. And
Speaker 1: speaking of something else because I know you're going to
Speaker 1: get into a whole lot of this tomorrow when you're in.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask about the Bearcats because initially
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Bengals, and then the Bearcats
Speaker 1: thing with sideways. Tell me about this portal problem, because
Speaker 1: it is a portal problem, and people are upset. They
Speaker 1: want to blame Sadderfield, they want to blame the University
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. How much of this is the nature of
Speaker 1: what the business of college football is today compared do
Speaker 1: you think the way it's being run in the program
Speaker 1: at the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 10: Well, so much of it is is the portal and
Speaker 10: the problems to deal with. And first things first, uh,
Speaker 10: Navy was the superior team on so many levels. First
Speaker 10: of all, they're used to water, okay, in the driving
Speaker 10: rain in the Memphis. They know how to swim, and
Speaker 10: they know how to row okay. And they brought everybody
Speaker 10: with them, and you see was down a dozen players,
Speaker 10: all of them opting out, most of them, you know,
Speaker 10: entering the portal. A couple guys including Dante Corleone, you know,
Speaker 10: preparing for the NFL draft. So to beat down eight
Speaker 10: defensive backs, this was just a no brainer.
Speaker 3: Pick a Navy to day.
Speaker 10: But anyway, you know, to go in there with you know,
Speaker 10: your second and third string quarterbacks, you see, just had
Speaker 10: no chance to day against the midshipman. And it's just
Speaker 10: brutal to think, now, where do you you need a quarterback?
Speaker 10: Is it going to be some I. J. Shones or
Speaker 10: or somebody else next year? So it's like you're always fighting,
Speaker 10: uh yeah, fighting from behind to to measure up. They
Speaker 10: they've lost five in a row. They started seven and
Speaker 10: one and uh and then get sunk today, you know
Speaker 10: by the midship and it in this Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 1: Didn't they lose five in a row last year as
Speaker 1: well at the end.
Speaker 10: They were They're one and eleven in November under Scott Sadderfield. So, uh,
Speaker 10: they've got to find a way number one, to retain guys. Yes,
Speaker 10: in number two, Yeah, find a way that a mid
Speaker 10: season to stand on the gas and not uh not crumble.
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it all about the money chick Ludwig by the way,
Speaker 1: sterling seven hundred WLW Because to retain these guys, these guys,
Speaker 1: they they opt out that they put themselves in the
Speaker 1: poor you know, a dozen players, a starting quarterback, eight
Speaker 1: defensive backs, and you look at that and you kind
Speaker 1: of go, it's a shell of the team, and you
Speaker 1: see it is not the only team navigating this. But
Speaker 1: they're relatively new to the big twelve they're still trying
Speaker 1: to get to the top tier of that and build
Speaker 1: this program and having to navigate it. Is there a
Speaker 1: way to say, And maybe it would be unfair because
Speaker 1: I'm of the idea that players should have the portability
Speaker 1: the coaches have had for years where we've seen it
Speaker 1: at UC check where you know, you come to bowl
Speaker 1: time and all of a sudden the coach has gone.
Speaker 1: You're like, well, what what's that about, Well, coach took
Speaker 1: another job. Now, so these players are in that situation.
Speaker 1: Do you say, look, you've got to stay through the
Speaker 1: bowl game, which risk them and their opportunity to be
Speaker 1: healthy to get to the next place if it's not
Speaker 1: going to be you seen, because they could come down.
Speaker 10: To signing contracts. You know, with players, you have to
Speaker 10: you know, you have to fulfill your responsibility, whatever it
Speaker 10: is a year or two or staying through the bowl
Speaker 10: game aim and to get paid. So, yeah, a lot
Speaker 10: of it is about money and then opportunity. Uh gosh,
Speaker 10: you look at a Fernando Mendoza, you know, buried out
Speaker 10: in cal and then the opportunity that he gets at
Speaker 10: the at Indiana University. Just a phenomenal story. And yeah,
Speaker 10: now we're looking at the Brendan Soresby. You know, we'll
Speaker 10: find out what in a day or two, hopefully soon
Speaker 10: you know where he'll wind up, where he'll end up.
Speaker 10: But got he started at Indiana, then he was at
Speaker 10: uc and uh yeah, he's going to get a big
Speaker 10: pay day. So it's man, it's like a you're in
Speaker 10: a washing machine here, a never ending cycle and it's brutal.
Speaker 1: And our schools in the lower I'm going to say
Speaker 1: that you see as a lower tier. The whole idea
Speaker 1: of going to the Big twelve is going to the
Speaker 1: next level, you know, bigger and more market share and
Speaker 1: showcasing and all that stuff. But it seems like they
Speaker 1: don't have the money that some of these other programs do.
Speaker 10: Even though you're absolutely right look at the guy, like,
Speaker 10: oh what we saw last night. I have an ole
Speaker 10: Miss quarterback Trendidad Shambliss. He came from Farris State Division
Speaker 10: two national champion and now he surfaces at ole Miss
Speaker 10: and they beat Georgia. Just just an incredible story. So
Speaker 10: you love to hear those stories. But I'm wondering, you know,
Speaker 10: what's going on with eight defensive backs at at the
Speaker 10: University of Cincinnati entering the transfer. Man, is it is
Speaker 10: it a money grab? Is it an opportunity? It's probably
Speaker 10: a combination of both. And it's uh yeah, it put
Speaker 10: Scott Saderfield in a you know, a tough situation and
Speaker 10: all the folks that you see, you know, trying to
Speaker 10: get players and uh yeah, they'll get players. Now, how
Speaker 10: you know, how good are they? We're in a big
Speaker 10: time here, this is the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's challenging. It really is. Time it is,
Speaker 1: it's huge, and I know people want to point the
Speaker 1: finger and how you know, for such a long time
Speaker 1: it was coaches who had the bordability, you know, and
Speaker 1: and and everyone else, and the kids were sort of
Speaker 1: tethered to the school generally unless they were kicked out
Speaker 1: of the program for some reason, which that you know,
Speaker 1: unless they're a problem, that's probably not going to happen.
Speaker 1: I want the kids to be able.
Speaker 10: It could come down to you know, one transfer, yeah,
Speaker 10: you know at uh you know, after a year or
Speaker 10: two or whatever, you get one transfer. So you know,
Speaker 10: the powers that be are going to have to you know,
Speaker 10: straighten this all out. Change some dates, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 10: with with coaches leaving and players opting out here that
Speaker 10: you know today, you know, And I was asked, could
Speaker 10: Brandon's Brandon Soursby? Could it be because could he have
Speaker 10: played today and then entered the transfer portal. Well, he's
Speaker 10: not going to take that gamble on a a bad game,
Speaker 10: bad performance, or an injury. So as soon as the
Speaker 10: season ended, he uh, you know, he opted out. We'll
Speaker 10: find doubt where he's going next.
Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig all over a bear catch you got the
Speaker 1: Bengals stuff obviously too. Sunday they wrapped up.
Speaker 10: Leaving Culture tomorrow at the Wings and Rings Liberty Township
Speaker 10: from five thirty to eight thirty, the final post game
Speaker 10: show of the season.
Speaker 1: That'll be all right now, did you when you look
Speaker 1: at this Bengals team and you know it's the Browns
Speaker 1: and it's the AFC North and anything can happen. They
Speaker 1: come in here Sunday one o'clock kickoff on the Big
Speaker 1: One and you'll be doing the postgame show with the Culture.
Speaker 1: It was always great too. I just it's frustrating. We've
Speaker 1: seen it with the Bengals. You know, Oh, you want
Speaker 1: a faster start, they had a faster start. You want
Speaker 1: a better defense. Well, we saw the defense mature. We
Speaker 1: want to see them finish strong. I mean they're doing
Speaker 1: all the things that you would expect them to be
Speaker 1: doing once they're closer to full strength. Offensively, the defense
Speaker 1: has grown too. How do you as a fan keep
Speaker 1: the most positive way of looking at it without being
Speaker 1: like some of my friends who were just like, that's
Speaker 1: just what the Bengals do. They play well at the
Speaker 1: end and then they suck. And I've heard that time
Speaker 1: and time again.
Speaker 10: Yeah. What I've tried to tell fans, what we've learned
Speaker 10: and seen the last two weeks against the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 10: and Arizona Cardinals, a reminder of what might have been,
Speaker 10: what could have been, and hopefully what will be next year.
Speaker 10: The whole key here is keeping your quarterback Joe Burrow healthy.
Speaker 10: And I just looked this up. The Bengals have played
Speaker 10: one hundred regular season games since he was drafted in
Speaker 10: two thousand. He's played in seventy six and his record
Speaker 10: is forty three and thirty two and one, and he's
Speaker 10: five and two this year, fourteen touchdown passes, four interceptions
Speaker 10: played in seven games. And keeping him healthy and then
Speaker 10: upgrading just all fasted so the defense next year, better
Speaker 10: defensive lineman, you know, adding another linebacker and the dbs
Speaker 10: because when you can get instant pressure on a quarterback,
Speaker 10: it just helps the defensive backs, the safeties in the
Speaker 10: corners just so much. So they've got to improve all
Speaker 10: three tiers of that defense. And we saw this young defense.
Speaker 10: We yeah, we're starting to see them mature, getting better.
Speaker 10: And you know, they gambled on defense this year and
Speaker 10: it backfired and everything went south when Joe got injured.
Speaker 10: So Flacco did a great job. Would love to have
Speaker 10: him back next year as a backup. We'll see if
Speaker 10: that happens. But yeah, and then adding to the offensive line,
Speaker 10: so just keep just keep upgrading.
Speaker 1: It's tough, check Ludwig, how much do you We've saw
Speaker 1: the improvement on the defense in the last half of
Speaker 1: the season, especially last several weeks, and that's what you want.
Speaker 1: And if the offense have been clicking even half as
Speaker 1: well as it had been just with Joe there, And
Speaker 1: it's as much as Flacco as an elder statesman under
Speaker 1: center is you know, all the experience he has and
Speaker 1: everything else. It is a tough transition. I mean, how
Speaker 1: much more can you ask of a team to navigate
Speaker 1: what they did with the loss of a Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: because there's very few out there in any organization that
Speaker 1: are at his level or have ever been at his level.
Speaker 10: That's that's right, and it just underscores, you know, his
Speaker 10: importance to this team, that franchise, this city, the face
Speaker 10: of the city, the most important player in Bengals history.
Speaker 10: So it's it's like the team's always at a crossroads,
Speaker 10: and I know the frustration of the fans and hey,
Speaker 10: sitting down, sit down, your big three, don't get let
Speaker 10: him get hurt. No, this team has to continue to
Speaker 10: evaluate players.
Speaker 3: And you said million.
Speaker 10: Times you're not only playing for your team, you're playing
Speaker 10: for thirty one others. So the evaluation process is critical.
Speaker 10: The coaches, they have to find out who can play
Speaker 10: for this team next season and book around the locker room.
Speaker 10: Tomorrow a bunch of guys are going to be gone.
Speaker 10: And it happens every year.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. Though when you look at this offense,
Speaker 1: and I know defense is where it's been thinner, but
Speaker 1: they've come up strong lately. But as you look at
Speaker 1: chick aside from Jamar Chase, aside from Higgins, aside from
Speaker 1: Chase Brown, aside from p Ryan, aside from obviously Burrow.
Speaker 1: And you look at the weapons that Burrough has aside
Speaker 1: from those guys, in what those guys in the running
Speaker 1: backs have been able to do, and that in between stuff.
Speaker 1: The weaponry is so deep. It's just to be nice
Speaker 1: if you could see them put that together with the
Speaker 1: defense that is serviceable for a whole season. But I
Speaker 1: guess that's the magic and why only a handful of
Speaker 1: teams are consistently in the play offs. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's a dream to get to the super Bowl, let
Speaker 1: alone play deep into the postseason.
Speaker 10: And we saw that this year when the offense played well,
Speaker 10: the defense struggled when the defense up came on and
Speaker 10: the offense had it its issues. So yeah, getting putting
Speaker 10: an entire game together, putting entire season together is is
Speaker 10: it just a huge challenge? And people want Zach Taylor's head, Well,
Speaker 10: then what are you going to start all over with,
Speaker 10: you know, with a new offense, you know, a new
Speaker 10: head coach, whold new offensive scheme. No, they're going to
Speaker 10: keep Zach Taylor. However, if they start slow next year,
Speaker 10: I'm gonna use my favorite word armageddon next year. If
Speaker 10: they start slow, it's uh yeah, all bets are off.
Speaker 1: So you and David Poulcher Sunday after Bengals and Brown's
Speaker 1: kick off one o'clock at pay Corps and then where
Speaker 1: are you two guys hanging out after with the.
Speaker 10: Sar At Wings and Rings Liberty Dry I have Liberty Township,
Speaker 10: so looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we shift just a minute. I mean, I
Speaker 1: find this part of the college basketball season turning into
Speaker 1: a pretty exciting time because all of a sudden it's
Speaker 1: conference time, Big Twelve, Big East, Horizon League with NKU
Speaker 1: and Wright State Miami up the way. I mean, we
Speaker 1: are really kind of in the land of plenty with
Speaker 1: college basketball too.
Speaker 10: Oh gosh, we're at the We think we're at the
Speaker 10: epicenter here, you know, gosha, what's the arithmetic? Gosh the drug?
Speaker 10: You draw the perimeter around the Cincinnati Dayton area.
Speaker 1: You drive ninety minutes to two hours, Yeah, you drive
Speaker 1: one hundred miles. I mean you can.
Speaker 10: It's tremendous, phenomenal it is. And it all starts for
Speaker 10: UC tomorrow. They're eight and five, second last in the
Speaker 10: Big Twelve. The loss that hurt, that was just that
Speaker 10: crippled them is at home against Eastern Michigan and that's
Speaker 10: going to look really bad on as I may, but
Speaker 10: it can all man, the arrow can start pointing up
Speaker 10: if they can beat Houston tomorrow at home fift third
Speaker 10: Arena at two o'clock tomorrow. The Big Twelve starts. It
Speaker 10: got the Big East started, got it filt like.
Speaker 3: Two weeks ago it did.
Speaker 10: Now we're finally Big twelve play and you've got what
Speaker 10: half dozen teams in the top twenty in that conference.
Speaker 10: So it's it's a monster.
Speaker 1: Is that the toughest conference? You think Big East? Big
Speaker 1: twelve is pretty strong too.
Speaker 10: I honestly do. Yeah, the Big Ten will beat you up.
Speaker 10: The Big twelve is extremely skilled, and yeah, it's it's
Speaker 10: a phenomenal, phenomenal conference, it really is.
Speaker 1: And you know, just to see the Goomers come into town.
Speaker 1: And Houston's been pretty good no matter where they have
Speaker 1: been conference wise. I mean, they've had stretches where it's
Speaker 1: been somewhat anemic and not great, but they have found
Speaker 1: a way consistently to be a winner. And just you know,
Speaker 1: from the Big Twelve and they just grow even more.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing. That they've been able to put together.
Speaker 10: It really is with with Kelvin Samson there, they they've
Speaker 10: really stepped up their game and gosh, they're reminding you
Speaker 10: of the good old days with Gosh tim olajuh wad
Speaker 10: yes and gosh the fly five Slam of jama days.
Speaker 1: Different times, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: It all starts tomorrow for the Bearcats at home, the
Speaker 10: big twelve opener against Houston. It's uh, that place to
Speaker 10: be rocking, and hey, Bearcats go out and do a number.
Speaker 1: That's all you can do.
Speaker 10: Go out and James going and Baba Miller and they
Speaker 10: got to get the freshman showing a by you getting him, gosh,
Speaker 10: a five star you know McDonald's all American. Uh, get
Speaker 10: him going either as the sixth man or you know,
Speaker 10: he's a three point sharpshooter and he's been struggling.
Speaker 11: So yeah, Is it easier for Wes Miller than say
Speaker 11: Saturdy Field on the hoop side of things, putting it together,
Speaker 11: navigating the portal and so forth.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a challenge either way. We've seen how
Speaker 1: Xavier has found a way to do that in the
Speaker 1: Big East. But I mean, is football harder to do
Speaker 1: that or is it hoopes.
Speaker 10: Do you think, Wow, that's a good question, because it's, uh,
Speaker 10: it's tough all the way around. Uh, Xavier had to
Speaker 10: Richard Patino had to bring in an entirely different, you know,
Speaker 10: new new team and and really the only player, only
Speaker 10: one from UC has played in the Xavier in the
Speaker 10: Xavier rivalry, so that that's just crazy. But hold new
Speaker 10: team there too. For for west Miller basically, so.
Speaker 1: Uh, different times.
Speaker 10: It just is it's, uh, everything's fluid, everything's in transition, Stirling,
Speaker 10: and it's so tough for a fan. I don't know
Speaker 10: these players. I want to get to know them, but
Speaker 10: they don't stick around long enough to find out what
Speaker 10: they're even what their name is.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see over a few years how
Speaker 1: some of these players develop it, you know, they come back,
Speaker 1: do the education thing more or whatever. Because I mean,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, the vast majority, whether it's football players,
Speaker 1: basketball players, they're not going to go on to play
Speaker 1: Pro ball, NBA, NFL. Some will, but not many overall, right,
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe they'll go to Europe and player
Speaker 1: or whatever else and in some of these other underleagues
Speaker 1: in football, But I mean, so these guys got to
Speaker 1: get as much money as they can and then hopefully
Speaker 1: get that education and do something with it later. But
Speaker 1: it's hard to build the relationship and the name recognition
Speaker 1: in a market where you see guys who stick around
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati and in other places to do broadcasting and
Speaker 1: be a part of the community. So that's a whole
Speaker 1: shift that we're going to see too in the next
Speaker 1: five ten years.
Speaker 3: You know, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 10: You stick around for four or five years. Uh, You've
Speaker 10: got alumni more than willing to help you get a job,
Speaker 10: and all of a sudden, you're here one year and
Speaker 10: you're gone. You know, where are your roots as a player,
Speaker 10: So you don't have any You're a You're a vagabond,
Speaker 10: You're a gypsy, and it's.
Speaker 1: Unless you find a home like here with a big one.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, come on down there, you go. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you making time. I love you. Check you're
Speaker 1: a good man.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 1: David Folger Chick Ludwig hanging out Sunday after Bengals Browns
Speaker 1: at Paycoorp and on the big one again. Where is
Speaker 1: it you're going to be?
Speaker 10: Yeah, Liberty Township, Wings and Rings, we will bring the
Speaker 10: energy fultures, vultures in the chick magnets.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 3: Check.
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing what you do and making time
Speaker 1: in your good Thank your brother, Happy new you take
Speaker 1: care of yourself. Sterling. Coming back, you're ten o'clock reports
Speaker 1: straight away, Doctor Donas schleg former had a political science
Speaker 1: going to join me talking about an FBI reported thwarting
Speaker 1: of a New York's Eve attack. We'll also talk about
Speaker 1: that poor eleven year old girl a gun down in
Speaker 1: a park and still looking for the perpetrators at that crime,
Speaker 1: and a whole lot of other ground to cover on
Speaker 1: a fine Friday nights, Sterling, Happy new Year to you
Speaker 1: and yours, and a tough one for those football bearcats
Speaker 1: and the liberty of falling to navy. Tonight here on
Speaker 1: news radio seven hundred WLW Cincinnati says full lawn, seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW, Sterling, that's me all the time, the FBI,
Speaker 1: Secret Service, local law enforcement, county sheriff, state patrol, you
Speaker 1: name it, border to border, coast to coast, and our
Speaker 1: interests globally. The threat of terrorism and danger of bad
Speaker 1: actors is constantly out there in the talk of us
Speaker 1: needing to be more vigilant or vigilant and keeping an
Speaker 1: eye out and seeing something and saying something is something
Speaker 1: we've been living with more openly the better part of
Speaker 1: the last what twenty four years, since nine eleven, two
Speaker 1: thousand and one, I suppose, and looking back at history,
Speaker 1: there were maybe more dangerous times when it comes to
Speaker 1: terrorist threats and domestic terrorism in so far for someone
Speaker 1: who put out the first textbook published the first one
Speaker 1: about terrorism. Here is also the former head of political
Speaker 1: science at Right State now, Professor Mariti, doctor Donna Schleheck.
Speaker 1: Welcome to seven hundred wlw we Sterling. How are you
Speaker 1: happy New Year? How's everything?
Speaker 12: Good evening? And happy new Year. I was very interested
Speaker 12: to hear the report that you mentioned. The New York
Speaker 12: Police Department counter Terrorism had a piece of this tracking
Speaker 12: this potential terrorist and.
Speaker 1: It seems to be related to isis he regularly is
Speaker 1: that it seems like they are sort of like the
Speaker 1: pre eminent foreign actor or loosely organized bunch of sympathizers
Speaker 1: who look to do US or other freedom type. I mean,
Speaker 1: who were they targeting besides US ISIS in general anyone
Speaker 1: who doesn't agree with them or what.
Speaker 12: Anyone who might not agree, but particularly American targets. They
Speaker 12: of course killed three Americans who were on active duty
Speaker 12: in Syria last month. And this individual was spotted, you know,
Speaker 12: by a New York Police officer on the counter terrorism
Speaker 12: team tracking people online. So this was a cyber operation.
Speaker 12: I'm so glad you wanted to talk about it tonight
Speaker 12: because this is one of those successful preventions, right, this
Speaker 12: is what we most desperately want. It probably would have
Speaker 12: been another lone wolf attack Charlotte, North Carolina. You know,
Speaker 12: a year ago we were getting over the New Orleans
Speaker 12: attack with a truck right and automatic weapons. This past
Speaker 12: Halloween there was a report of another planned attack that
Speaker 12: was cyber aborted as well, detected early and shut down.
Speaker 12: He was those people were talking about a potential attack
Speaker 12: in here in Ohio, so up at Cedar Point. So
Speaker 12: the small attacks, where do people gather, often in large numbers,
Speaker 12: what happened in Australia of course, the Bondai attack before Christmas.
Speaker 12: It's a classic example of people gathering in large public
Speaker 12: places vulnerability. And you know the fact that we can
Speaker 12: now talk to the public about the importance of you know,
Speaker 12: the protective efforts that are going on behind the scenes
Speaker 12: twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. This
Speaker 12: individual had been tracked for months to try to prove
Speaker 12: you know, a New York police officer, obviously we're thinking
Speaker 12: about Times Square. No, they've aboarded an attack in Charlotte,
Speaker 12: North Carolina. It's the case hasn't fully played out in court.
Speaker 12: Another troubled individual. I was struck by how many similarities
Speaker 12: there seemed to be sterling with the individual who was
Speaker 12: finally arrested for planning those pipe bombs you remember at
Speaker 12: the RNC and the DNC headquarters in January of twenty
Speaker 12: twenty one. These investigations take take a long time, but
Speaker 12: talking to the public about the ongoing threat, all the
Speaker 12: efforts being taken to identify these individuals online, ISIS has
Speaker 12: a global reach. Americans are favorite targets. Some of these
Speaker 12: attacks last year at this time were taking place in
Speaker 12: the big Christmas markets and Christmas fairs in Germany and elsewhere,
Speaker 12: so Western targets, particularly in this case, you know, holiday crowds,
Speaker 12: and kudos to the counter terrorism squad. It's a state, local,
Speaker 12: and federal effort. You pointed out, we're going to be
Speaker 12: coming up this September hard to believe it. On the
Speaker 12: twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven, we've had We've
Speaker 12: learned a lot, and like like in medicine, prevention is
Speaker 12: the absolute best approach to take, and it is. It's
Speaker 12: a good evening when we can talk about the prevention
Speaker 12: of this sort of an attack on Americans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I prefer to talk about this in the news
Speaker 1: rather than carnage, lost life, in the suffering of individuals
Speaker 1: subsequent to some type of attack, which is exactly what
Speaker 1: was going on a year ago in and around Bourbon
Speaker 1: Street in New Orleans, and as you mentioned, the Christmas
Speaker 1: holiday markets elsewhere as well. It's troubling. Doctor Donnas Schles
Speaker 1: former had of political science, now professor Merita Wright State University.
Speaker 1: She's a Cincinnati kid with Sterling. On seven hundred WLW,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the DNC RNC pipe bombs that were left
Speaker 1: leading up to January sixth in what happened obviously at
Speaker 1: the Capitol and everyone you know either way you looked
Speaker 1: at it like kind of people were questioning, well, it
Speaker 1: was at both political party headquarters, what does this mean?
Speaker 1: And it turns out that this guy allegedly was not
Speaker 1: particularly partisan, disgusted, fed up and wanting to act out
Speaker 1: in some fashion against the system itself in both parties.
Speaker 1: How much is that disgruntled, dissatisfied, sort of marginal on
Speaker 1: the fringe type of player or person out there that
Speaker 1: is so vulnerable either to be manipulated by others groups
Speaker 1: be an ISIS or those that they can sympathize with
Speaker 1: to sort of stir them up, because right now on
Speaker 1: social media there is so much out there that is
Speaker 1: constantly going on where they are trying to find the
Speaker 1: disillusioned to do really horrible things and they just need
Speaker 1: poked and prodded in the right way.
Speaker 12: Yes, it is such a vulnerable population for recruitment by ISIS,
Speaker 12: and it seems to fit exactly the case that we
Speaker 12: currently have in front of us out of Charlotte, very young,
Speaker 12: eighteen nineteen years old, not well adjusted, and online, constantly online.
Speaker 12: It makes you wonder how many of these cases they're
Speaker 12: tracking on any given day. But this individual was tracked
Speaker 12: for weeks. The FBI has been assuring the public that
Speaker 12: he was, you know, at no time a threat to
Speaker 12: the general public. And yet if we think about some
Speaker 12: of the other recent lone wolf attacks, luigim Angioni not
Speaker 12: one of those you know, unsuccessful people, the young man
Speaker 12: who assassinated Charlie Kirk. But they do seem to still
Speaker 12: fit in that loan, very dissatisfied looking, you know, looking
Speaker 12: for something and finding those answers. As you said, in
Speaker 12: social media, law enforcement is there. You know that that
Speaker 12: that cyber sphere is clearly where they are tracking what
Speaker 12: ISIS is doing as well. But it's global and it's
Speaker 12: it's it's going to be interesting to see what the
Speaker 12: social media techs are going to be able to do
Speaker 12: to work with law enforcement. We are we're too vulnerable.
Speaker 12: We have big public, public gatherings. The holidays may have
Speaker 12: ended now, but you know the next planning will be
Speaker 12: for you guessed it, the Super Bowl, right, and I
Speaker 12: will be wondering again, you know how how many layers
Speaker 12: of security they have going in. That's one of the
Speaker 12: things I was watching on New Year's Eve, and that
Speaker 12: they have it down to pretty much an art right
Speaker 12: now in New York. And the the interesting, the irony,
Speaker 12: the coincidence that one of those New York officers would
Speaker 12: have been the one who identified this this gentleman I
Speaker 12: think his name is Garza uh and and to track
Speaker 12: him and to catch him before he could hurt anyone.
Speaker 12: But it is isis, it was, isis connected, and that
Speaker 12: seems to be where the action is. Not the American cases,
Speaker 12: not Charlie kirk Uh, not Luigi Manngioni, and certainly not
Speaker 12: the attacks on President Trump either fallen into this category.
Speaker 12: But we may forget about terrorism. It certainly doesn't forget
Speaker 12: about us, definitely does not.
Speaker 1: Doctor Donna Schlez, the former had of political science at
Speaker 1: Right State now professor Emerita. You know after nine to
Speaker 1: eleven what had been talked about, and it was just
Speaker 1: recently in the last year, I think really the beginning
Speaker 1: of the second term for President Trump, a lot of
Speaker 1: talk about surveillance society in which we live, how much
Speaker 1: is being looked at, whether it's our phones and what's
Speaker 1: being shared by the companies that we buy service from,
Speaker 1: whether it's what we're watching, what we're reading online, pick
Speaker 1: a device of choice, any type of communication that goes
Speaker 1: with it. And we talk about giving up our freedoms,
Speaker 1: but there is an inherent vulnerability with our freedom rather
Speaker 1: than being in some other type of place around the
Speaker 1: world where there is no freedom, where there is no liberty,
Speaker 1: So where is that line and how do we navigate
Speaker 1: it because at this point they go, well, and I
Speaker 1: kind of the opinion, I have nothing to hide. They're
Speaker 1: in my stuff anyway, probably searching, and it's okay. But
Speaker 1: the other end of it, where does that line stop
Speaker 1: when it comes to surveilling the people of the United States,
Speaker 1: our freedom for our security, because that, I guess is
Speaker 1: the eternal question that we have to ask.
Speaker 12: And at what point does it become entrapment? I think
Speaker 12: an officer and agent posing as an ISIS person, you know,
Speaker 12: an ISIS recruiter or an ISIS expert online would probably
Speaker 12: have a pretty convincing argument, you know, if it went
Speaker 12: to a jury trial. But your bigger point about privacy,
Speaker 12: what we say, what you know, with whom we communicate,
Speaker 12: what we put in writing. If you read the Patriot
Speaker 12: Act that Congress passed after the nine to eleven attacks,
Speaker 12: law enforcement has very broad authority, very broad. And the
Speaker 12: cyber realm, as you know, is global and it's all encompassing,
Speaker 12: and it's well, hey, it's in your phone right now
Speaker 12: if they want to track with whom you are communicating.
Speaker 12: But if it's an ISIS operative or someone posing as
Speaker 12: an isis operative? I think an average American would say,
Speaker 12: that's the sort of law enforcement and you know, protective
Speaker 12: and preventive action that we want to see, not you
Speaker 12: know necessarily what the politics are that you're discussing. But
Speaker 12: if there are weapons and attacks and planning taking place,
Speaker 12: I think, Sterling, you know, we're way past that line
Speaker 12: of entrapment. We're talking about actual threats to Americans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a good scenario looking back at this
Speaker 1: because doctor Schleck, you published the first textbook on terrorism,
Speaker 1: so historically, when we look back across the country and
Speaker 1: for that matter, around the world, and I was a
Speaker 1: hatchling in the seventies, just a tiny sterling, but I
Speaker 1: look back at it, and you heard, at least in
Speaker 1: the early part of the seventies, mid seventies, in the
Speaker 1: late sixties, there was a lot of terrorism of one
Speaker 1: type or another done domestically. I mean, there were department
Speaker 1: stores that were being bombed. There were a lot of
Speaker 1: different pieces and parts going on with unrest in this
Speaker 1: nation in a lot of ways. Are we not safer
Speaker 1: now from terrorism than we were? Are we more scared
Speaker 1: unreasonably from it? Or I mean, where do we stand
Speaker 1: now in twenty six the second of January, compared to say,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six in the bi centennial year with two
Speaker 1: fifty in front of us.
Speaker 12: Oh, what a great question. You know, the sixties and
Speaker 12: the seventies there was there was a anti war movement
Speaker 12: going on, and another number of many other movements. We
Speaker 12: fast forward up to two thousand and one. What was
Speaker 12: the FBI saying at the time was the greatest threat
Speaker 12: of terrorism in our country environmental terrorism? They completely you know,
Speaker 12: we we were not even in the right part of
Speaker 12: the conversation. Think about people who've grown up, say you
Speaker 12: know gen Zs and others, they've lived a whole lifetime
Speaker 12: where there's there's always been a nine to eleven and
Speaker 12: there's always been massive social media life going on. I
Speaker 12: think they, you know, people who are twenty five may
Speaker 12: find it a lot easier to expect both law enforcement
Speaker 12: intrusions and privacy to be happening, almost taking it for granted.
Speaker 12: Where as a person your age or my age, you know,
Speaker 12: raises these questions about privacy, but the threat is small.
Speaker 12: But what happens when it actually occurs a large public venue,
Speaker 12: massive civilian casualties, incredible media coverage, you know, everyone is
Speaker 12: riveted by the attention and then comes to a cult
Speaker 12: part about knowing how to react or as we often do,
Speaker 12: if we go back to two thousand and one, overreact
Speaker 12: rather than you know, find the really most effective and
Speaker 12: least costly to democracy solutions to these problems. We've been
Speaker 12: down a very steep learning curve in terms of terrorism.
Speaker 12: What happened with this aborted attack in Charlotte, North Carolina,
Speaker 12: I think is evidence that law enforcement now knows that
Speaker 12: terrorism is also a game of prevention. This is not
Speaker 12: just finding them and prosecuting them. To truly protect the public,
Speaker 12: it has to be protective and preventive. My heart goes
Speaker 12: out to the people in Australia. I don't know if
Speaker 12: you saw the big demonstration on New Year's Day, people
Speaker 12: showing up just to show their solidarity with the Jewish
Speaker 12: community in Australia. But you know, the threats are so small,
Speaker 12: and yet when they do happen, they're enormous. Uh and
Speaker 12: and they're there. These are average Americans. Write somebody down
Speaker 12: in New Orleans. You know, for for a big gathering,
Speaker 12: it's people just like us, wrong place, wrong time. It
Speaker 12: could be any of us and that's why it strikes
Speaker 12: people with the intense media coverage, the shocking nature of
Speaker 12: the violence. Uh So it has grabbed our attention again.
Speaker 12: You're right, the numbers of Americans who die from this
Speaker 12: very small, but you know you're you're at much greater
Speaker 12: risk driving your car in American traffic. Uh But nonetheless,
Speaker 12: when it does happen, everybody can be everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's horrific for the individuals involved. And
Speaker 1: then the nature of it is to to instill fear.
Speaker 1: And I refuse to let someone dictate how I'm going
Speaker 1: to live my life out of the idea of fear.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a very effective tool. Doctor donas Schleig,
Speaker 1: former had a political science at Right State Now. Professor
Speaker 1: Merida was stirling on the we're short on time, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate you making so much time of it as
Speaker 1: here on the second day of January twenty six talking
Speaker 1: about this quash attack. Thankfully that did not happen in Charlotte.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of them that we never hear
Speaker 1: about constantly. Law enforcement pick a layer of that from
Speaker 1: the federal level on down to local police, county sheriffs,
Speaker 1: and so on. In people eyeballing things and letting people
Speaker 1: know about the danger or what they perceive as a
Speaker 1: danger that could be a threat. But we also look
Speaker 1: at state actors. Iran is one of those who has
Speaker 1: helped sort of facilitate terrorism globally, as it's been reported,
Speaker 1: whether it's hamas other organizations. The president just came out
Speaker 1: with a public warning which may or may not be
Speaker 1: unusual about their treatment of what considered peaceful protesters there
Speaker 1: to the extreme, which is ironic because there's been talk
Speaker 1: of protesters here and how they'd be dealt with two.
Speaker 1: But they're a part of this as well. In the
Speaker 1: idea of a nation state in sponsoring either terrorism or
Speaker 1: an attack. You think of infrastructure, right, you think of
Speaker 1: knocking off social media, You think about the electricity, you
Speaker 1: think about water, You think about all these vulnerabilities that
Speaker 1: are out there. And then the very cheap individual either
Speaker 1: loose cannon off the rails, unhinged, motivated by or really
Speaker 1: affiliated with another organization, state sponsored or isis type or
Speaker 1: what It doesn't take much to cause great loss of life,
Speaker 1: carnage and fear. I mean that is I guess one
Speaker 1: of the the upsides if someone is the idea of
Speaker 1: affecting terrorists and how it affects a society, is it not.
Speaker 12: It is very much in that public response component. You're right,
Speaker 12: and what can people do? Be informed, be aware, and
Speaker 12: have these conversations about you know what you see here,
Speaker 12: learn on social media. Americans are very safe in their
Speaker 12: lives and in their property. We are very safe. And
Speaker 12: yet even with the newness of this terrorism threat, every
Speaker 12: time I'm recalling both Bondai and a year ago in
Speaker 12: New Orleans, the public reaction because we all see ourselves
Speaker 12: in those victims. Any of us could been there. It
Speaker 12: is the powerful weapon of the week of the impotent,
Speaker 12: turning many of our strengths against us. And that is
Speaker 12: why the public conversation, the awareness, bringing to light the
Speaker 12: story of this something that didn't happen right. This is
Speaker 12: the great lesson for the public to be appreciative of
Speaker 12: the work that goes on twenty four hours a day
Speaker 12: trying to track these groups. The affiliations with isis make
Speaker 12: it possible for law enforcement to do this work. The
Speaker 12: lone wolf actors, though, those are the really you know,
Speaker 12: the real truly difficult challenges if you are completely if
Speaker 12: you're not reaching out on social media to talk to
Speaker 12: someone you think is an isis and knows how to
Speaker 12: mix explosives. Uh, it will be very difficult to bring
Speaker 12: you to the attention of law enforcement. So this is
Speaker 12: another one of those many edges in social media we
Speaker 12: keep discovering. And whether or not we're getting much cooperation
Speaker 12: from the social media text I don't know, but kudos
Speaker 12: to the team in New York. Uh, Times Square was safe,
Speaker 12: and now it turns out this little town, little community
Speaker 12: in Charlotte will be safe as well. I'll be following
Speaker 12: this one. They were, They've got There are a couple
Speaker 12: of interesting twists and comparisons, as I said to the
Speaker 12: gentleman who was arrested for the DC pipe bombing attacks,
Speaker 12: but people need to be informed, and when it does happen,
Speaker 12: the immediate desire for this, you know, the swiftest, most potent,
Speaker 12: most power or full of striking response is probably not
Speaker 12: going to be the best one.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not the hammer that you needed. Something I
Speaker 1: guess smaller.
Speaker 12: Well put, well put.
Speaker 1: What's interesting about this is it all sort of comes together?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Statistically we are safer than we've ever been, but there's
Speaker 1: in some ways more danger and threat out there. And
Speaker 1: the instantaneous sharing of information, which we did not have
Speaker 1: decades ago, is there as well. It's not just checking
Speaker 1: you know, somebody's library card history that they took out
Speaker 1: or stole the you know, the anarchist cookbook from the
Speaker 1: library downtown. It's online who they were talking to, what
Speaker 1: they've been doing, and information they've been searching, and then
Speaker 1: credit card records and everything. I mean, it's out there.
Speaker 1: The information. Hard to hide your trail. If you're out
Speaker 1: there looking to do bad things.
Speaker 12: It is hard to hide your trail. It's also hard
Speaker 12: to fight an ideology, and that is what I as
Speaker 12: and it appeals. It has a certain appeal. I think
Speaker 12: that that that that instruct us where to watch who
Speaker 12: might be susceptible, as you mentioned earlier, But it is
Speaker 12: an idea and that is always going to be the
Speaker 12: most difficult one to try to control.
Speaker 1: There you go, well, hopefully there's more good news about
Speaker 1: something like this being put down rather than having us
Speaker 1: you do the reaction after so heads off to law
Speaker 1: enforcement and all those involved doing it, and save for
Speaker 1: forrest through the second day of January twenty sixth, Doctor
Speaker 1: Donashle like, thank you for making time in doing what
Speaker 1: you do. Former head of political science. She's Professor Meredith
Speaker 1: from Wright State University and Cincinnati's her hometown. Happy New
Speaker 1: Year to you and thank you, and we'll catch up
Speaker 1: against him.
Speaker 12: Talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Thanks Sterling, take care of yourself. More Sterling coming back
Speaker 1: your ten third reports straight away. Brady Hopkins has that,
Speaker 1: and we will get a little bit into this story.
Speaker 1: It's horrific about this eleven year old girl who was
Speaker 1: gunned down in the park. Details straight away here seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW and already talk of a senseless killing and
Speaker 1: Cincinnati year old girl shot killed playing in the West
Speaker 1: End Thursday night, New Year's and it's just bewildering, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Laura playground, it's right there at
Speaker 1: West Liberty in John Street about six o'clock. Heard it
Speaker 1: on the news just a few minutes ago, Brady and
Speaker 1: wcpo's got a great coverage of this as well. Girl
Speaker 1: Queen heer a reed just eleven. So you're talking what fifth,
Speaker 1: sixth grade something like that. She's taken to children's hospital
Speaker 1: after being a shot. She was playing with their relatives
Speaker 1: kids in the in the park and just one gunshot wound.
Speaker 1: Nobody at this point has been detained, as I understand it,
Speaker 1: or arrested. At this point. They are in search of
Speaker 1: and hoping that someone can point the finger and identify
Speaker 1: individual responsible or individuals responsible for this. It is mind numbing.
Speaker 1: It is bewildering day after day, week after week, month
Speaker 1: after month, now year after year. And I know crime
Speaker 1: status that were just published recently showing a downtick and
Speaker 1: crime generally across the country in most cities around the country,
Speaker 1: violent crime and so forth. But there are spots that
Speaker 1: it is an everyday occurrence. In one of those things
Speaker 1: that happens a lot, you know, in a neighborhood that
Speaker 1: has somewhere less than seven thousand people living there on
Speaker 1: a very regular basis. Down there you get thirty people,
Speaker 1: forty people shot, as it's been reported time and time again.
Speaker 1: And what has been done. More street patrols have been
Speaker 1: talked about over this last summer. Obviously, you got you know,
Speaker 1: a former police chief who's on the sideline, interim police
Speaker 1: chief hand. He's come out to talk about how horrible
Speaker 1: this is, senseless act of violence and heartbreaking. Yeah, it is,
Speaker 1: for sure, But I want to I just want what
Speaker 1: exactly is the deal with this, why is this going?
Speaker 1: And we don't know who to blame at this point
Speaker 1: other than someone who was out there discharging a firearm
Speaker 1: who had no business one in their hand, in their
Speaker 1: possession doing dumb ass things, whether it was with deliberate
Speaker 1: intent gunning down and firing at these kids, and this
Speaker 1: poor little girl eleven years old and her family dealing
Speaker 1: with the aftermath of this, trying to make sense of it.
Speaker 1: It's just heart wrenching and it's hard to process. And
Speaker 1: one of the things that came up in the w
Speaker 1: cpo's report on this, they talked to Noah O'Brien's West
Speaker 1: End Community Council member right there talking about the issue
Speaker 1: of violence in the neighborhood, says, you know, and in
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that we've talked about time and
Speaker 1: time again on my show, and you've heard it all
Speaker 1: over the Big One. You heard it being talked about
Speaker 1: time and time again. You know, more police, more people
Speaker 1: being more aware, the idea of deconcentrating poverty, which in
Speaker 1: some cases I guess could be it. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I grew up poor and I wasn't out on the
Speaker 1: street doing crime and hurting other people. So I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily believe that poverty or being poor in that desperation
Speaker 1: is the causation of somebody gunning down a kid on
Speaker 1: a playground, but certainly for a lot of other crime
Speaker 1: that's going on, perhaps you had that desperation and looking
Speaker 1: to cash, you know, get cash that you worked for,
Speaker 1: that I worked for, or in the stuff that we've
Speaker 1: bought to grab to sell, or drug addle behavior, whatever
Speaker 1: else it is, I don't know. And then the other
Speaker 1: thing in this story that is and I wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Chances are you weren't there. This is the family's grieving
Speaker 1: and dealing with this. They go to the hospital and
Speaker 1: apparently then there were issues in their communication and being
Speaker 1: able to grieve and see the baby girl eleven years
Speaker 1: old after she had passed in stoad up to it
Speaker 1: and waiting, as it's been reported to end up going
Speaker 1: to the funeral home to navigate that, which is a
Speaker 1: whole nother layer of insult to injury if it's accurate
Speaker 1: as it's been reported in that type of circumstance. And
Speaker 1: I know people get emotional and so forth when you
Speaker 1: have something like this happen. I want to open up
Speaker 1: the phones give you a chance to sound off. I
Speaker 1: would like to know in all seriousness, because I mean,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people come out there talk
Speaker 1: about you know what the solution is, how do you
Speaker 1: prevent this because we don't know who's responsible yet. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was a story the other day. I think it's
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old or an eleven year old is
Speaker 1: ends up being held accountable for or held as a
Speaker 1: result of a shooting of another kid. It was either
Speaker 1: an eleven year old shooting a fourteen year old, a
Speaker 1: fourteen year old shooting an eleven year old. I think
Speaker 1: it was up in Dayton. And this is happening all
Speaker 1: over the place, even while overall crime violent crime has
Speaker 1: gone down. So I mean, it's all the usual things right,
Speaker 1: got parenting, You could argue God needing to be more involved.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, there's something missing from the individual's lives
Speaker 1: who have decided that being quick to the gun. Whether
Speaker 1: it's a stolen firearm that somebody did not maintain control
Speaker 1: of as they should, or someone who did not maintain
Speaker 1: control of it in the house and a kid gets
Speaker 1: their hands on it, or it's criminals doing criminal stuff.
Speaker 1: And I have the opinion that you know what, it's
Speaker 1: criminals killing criminals. I'm kind of alright with that, because
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's just criminals doing criminal stuff. But
Speaker 1: when it's individuals that are innocent, that are minding their
Speaker 1: own business that are victims of either the crime or
Speaker 1: in this case, a senseless act of violence an eleven
Speaker 1: year old child, it makes no sense to me. Five
Speaker 1: point three seven four nine seven, eight hundred the big one.
Speaker 1: You can use the talk bag feature on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1: If you're streaming there, click on the microphone. I mean,
Speaker 1: what more can you do? I mean, you'd like to
Speaker 1: be of the idea of prevention. You know, we're talking
Speaker 1: about more people on the street in law enforcement doing it,
Speaker 1: and that's what they've done in Cincinnati with the Ohio
Speaker 1: State Patrol and partnering up with them, and it has
Speaker 1: in fact beefed up felony arrest and getting some of
Speaker 1: those repeat offenders off the streets and going after those
Speaker 1: who already had warrants on them and getting them locked
Speaker 1: up and keeping them locked up. Because so much of
Speaker 1: the crime and the stuff that makes the news and
Speaker 1: the headlines are individuals who are in the business of
Speaker 1: criminal behavior and repeat offenders. We don't know yet this
Speaker 1: particular case and who should be held accountable and culpable
Speaker 1: for this horrible thing. But what do you do? What
Speaker 1: do you tell this child's family, the mom and the kids,
Speaker 1: they weren't they're not even from here, they were visiting
Speaker 1: for like the holiday. I mean, it's just horrible. I
Speaker 1: want to know what you think. To West Union, Steve's
Speaker 1: first was Sterling on the Big One and room for
Speaker 1: you five one, three, seven, nine hundred the Big One. Hey, Steve,
Speaker 1: what do you know?
Speaker 5: Sterling?
Speaker 1: Happy New Year?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 5: Doesn't everybody have a phone that has a camera on it?
Speaker 1: Most of us?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 5: How about we can do that with our cities. I mean,
Speaker 5: how much could it cost? I mean, one little girl's life?
Speaker 5: But a million dollars? Two million dollars?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you can't. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there are a lot of cameras all over the place,
Speaker 1: but apparently not enough.
Speaker 5: Eat More and zoning needs to change the rules when
Speaker 5: they make playgrounds to put block walls attractive block walls
Speaker 5: around the playground to about five feet.
Speaker 3: That'll stop a lot of it.
Speaker 1: It could. Well, here's the other side. Then you have
Speaker 1: a wall, and then if you're in the park and
Speaker 1: somebody wants to do no good inside the park, then
Speaker 1: you're sort of trapped with the wall. You have to
Speaker 1: then figure a way to get out and navigate it too.
Speaker 5: A lot of kids, they're going to make a fuss
Speaker 5: and parents are going to be in there and they're
Speaker 5: going to take care of business. But it's going to
Speaker 5: stop drive by shootings across playgrounds.
Speaker 1: It could be. I'm not sure at this point, and
Speaker 1: I was looking at trying to find every bit of
Speaker 1: information I could about this, because I try to have
Speaker 1: half an idea what I'm talking about before I open
Speaker 1: my mouth, though it may not always sound like it.
Speaker 5: Technology has the solution out there. You just got to
Speaker 5: put it where it needs to be. And the Cinnati
Speaker 5: is not necessarily doing that because they're very reactive and
Speaker 5: they don't do things until something really bad happens. Another
Speaker 5: thing that I'm a little bit concerned with was these
Speaker 5: people when they took their when their daughter was taken emergency,
Speaker 5: they were treated very badly.
Speaker 1: That's what I've heard too.
Speaker 5: And I think that's just atrocious. What it does. It
Speaker 5: happen so much that these people are just numb to
Speaker 5: it and just don't care.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, I would like to know what happened, and
Speaker 1: they're going to have to wade through it, and the
Speaker 1: hospital is going to have to figure out how they
Speaker 1: put a good spin on it. But it is a
Speaker 1: bad look if it as as reported that this went
Speaker 1: down that way, And you know, people get very emotional
Speaker 1: sometimes and it's hard to navigate maybe a large group
Speaker 1: of people. But I wasn't there. I didn't witness it.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any video of it. But what it
Speaker 1: has been described as this situation as you're talking about, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like the family was treated less than decently.
Speaker 5: The thing is that if you have the cameras in place,
Speaker 5: you're going to catch these culprints a lot because you
Speaker 5: don't have film, and it'll stop eventually. I can't imagine
Speaker 5: there's more than six five hundred thugs and Cincinnati making
Speaker 5: it awful forever money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what they've talked about, and that's one
Speaker 1: of the things that they've tried to go after these
Speaker 1: felony warrants in these repeat offenders because it is a
Speaker 1: small number of people generally that they're wreaking a lot
Speaker 1: of the having Steve, I appreciate the comment. Thank you,
Speaker 1: and have a great new year. It's good to talk
Speaker 1: to you. I'm sorry it's about a horrible topic like this,
Speaker 1: but I figured it needed to be talked about. Take
Speaker 1: care of yourself, Steve. Thanks. You know it's for a
Speaker 1: talk show host to be speechless is probably not a
Speaker 1: great thing to admit. But I really have a hard
Speaker 1: time just understanding, you know, and we don't know who's
Speaker 1: responsible yet for this. Kids should be able to go
Speaker 1: to a park six o'clock. I mean it's you know,
Speaker 1: it maybe after dark, but there's lights and it's six o'clock,
Speaker 1: and you figure the park could be a safe place
Speaker 1: to go and it's not something you should have to
Speaker 1: worry about, is you know, gunfire and rounds whizzing by
Speaker 1: your head or you know, killing your child at eleven
Speaker 1: years old? Who you would think the park is where
Speaker 1: you'd be safe in doing what you're supposed to be doing,
Speaker 1: which is playing in off the street in a way
Speaker 1: from trouble. And you know, whether it's somebody out there
Speaker 1: firing rounds indiscriminately from a distance, or if it was
Speaker 1: something more intentional directly or otherwise you know, if not
Speaker 1: negligent either way, somebody should be held accountable. And too
Speaker 1: many stories, I mean just in the last week to
Speaker 1: ten days, and I mentioned this on the show that
Speaker 1: it was in New Year's Eve, and I talked about
Speaker 1: my time in New Orleans and celebratory gunfire, which is
Speaker 1: really a misnomer to me in that it's commonplace for
Speaker 1: people to pop off some rounds for New Year's or
Speaker 1: pop off some rounds because it's Christmas, or pick another
Speaker 1: reason to celebrate. I've never once thought I'd grab a
Speaker 1: weapon out of the box at home or the closet
Speaker 1: or whatever and go out and fire some rounds up
Speaker 1: into the sky. And in New Orleans, what happened New
Speaker 1: Years years ago when I was there working before I
Speaker 1: came back home to Cincinnati and Ohio, here is a
Speaker 1: woman ended up fallingbeknownst to anyone around or initially trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what happened to her. Because she collapsed
Speaker 1: is because she took a round to the top of
Speaker 1: her head because somebody was firing into the sky to
Speaker 1: celebrate the New year, and it dropped her dead. And
Speaker 1: there was a story in the last week to ten
Speaker 1: days about a guy who had a new weapon, and
Speaker 1: he went out in his backyard and started, you know,
Speaker 1: a target practice it like a can or a couple
Speaker 1: of cans, and apparently that one round of his travels
Speaker 1: a couple of blocks, because yeah, they don't just stop
Speaker 1: where you want the round to stop, and then ended
Speaker 1: up hitting an older woman who had a baby in
Speaker 1: her arms. Thankfully didn't hit the child, but it hit
Speaker 1: her either threw her arm, clipped her arm and into
Speaker 1: her chest cavity, and ended up killing her. So, whether
Speaker 1: it's indiscriminate gunfire to the sky, somebody else being an
Speaker 1: idiot and a moron firing target practice without a proper
Speaker 1: stop to keep those around them safe, or if it
Speaker 1: was someone up to no good driving around looking to
Speaker 1: gun people down, or someone indiscriminately firing her weapons, someone
Speaker 1: needs to be found and held accountable for this. And
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, if it's a parent that
Speaker 1: had a weapon that got into the hands of a
Speaker 1: child who shouldn't have had it, then the parents need
Speaker 1: to be held responsible for not maintaining control of that firearm.
Speaker 1: And that's in any situation, not just one here where
Speaker 1: it ends up somebody you know, loses their child. It's devastating.
Speaker 1: I mean it, And I don't want to sound like
Speaker 1: ranning and raving and you know and hate mongering or
Speaker 1: anything else. But it's just unnecessary. Life's hard enough, you know,
Speaker 1: celebrate New Year's hanging out with family, You're at the park.
Speaker 1: You should be safe. You shouldn't have to worry about this.
Speaker 1: Let's get Jake here seven hundred WLW with Sterling Jake,
Speaker 1: thanks for holding Happy New Year.
Speaker 3: What's up, hey, Charlotte, happening here?
Speaker 13: You know, I went to the University of Cincinnati in
Speaker 13: the nineties early nineties, and I experienced I don't think
Speaker 13: it's changed much. It's I got into a situation where
Speaker 13: we were just oking up. We were guys getting ready
Speaker 13: to go to a party liberally on East University air
Speaker 13: sided short ning and a couple of young guys come
Speaker 13: up to us. We were loading up beers like there
Speaker 13: was some beers.
Speaker 4: No, we don't want that.
Speaker 3: We just let us go.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Nexty, I know, I'm in a.
Speaker 13: Fight, leaning in the middle of the road. Tops come by,
Speaker 13: don't do anything fight, and I'm running with like, let's
Speaker 13: get out of here on my ale.
Speaker 10: Let's know, I run down to the.
Speaker 13: Corner park old with young people.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 13: Oh, I ain't gonna fight all them. Next you know,
Speaker 13: young kids run up to me. Fire's a gun off
Speaker 13: next to my head. No, no, no, it's still to
Speaker 13: this day something I don't forget. I didn't know if
Speaker 13: I was dead or ali at the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you tend to remember when somebody points a gun
Speaker 1: at you or discharges it close to you in a
Speaker 1: threatening manner. I had a guy in the furniture store
Speaker 1: my mom worked at when I was a kid. I
Speaker 1: don't think I was yet six. I don't think I
Speaker 1: was in kindergarten maybe first grade of most and they
Speaker 1: came in and robbed the furniture store, and they put
Speaker 1: a gun in my face, told me to go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and stay there. They couldn't find me after.
Speaker 1: You know, when the police came, initially they were trying
Speaker 1: to figure out where I had gone because I kind
Speaker 1: of picked up on the idea that the gun in
Speaker 1: my face was fairly serious. And I stayed in that
Speaker 1: bathroom until they were like, hey, where are you? Because
Speaker 1: you know, I realized the danger. It will rattle you.
Speaker 1: It stays with you.
Speaker 3: Oh, it did it completely. And the thing was.
Speaker 6: You know, I lived in the dorm there and.
Speaker 13: On campus and I lived off campus, and it's really
Speaker 13: not changed much. I mean from what i'm I have
Speaker 13: lived there in years. I'm fifty now. I mean that
Speaker 13: was twenty five years ago. But from what here now,
Speaker 13: it wasn't safe in the nineties. In the early nineties.
Speaker 3: I mean, we had we.
Speaker 13: Went to a concert at Bogart's one time when we
Speaker 13: parked down the road from there, and it was I
Speaker 13: there's a Catholic church there where it's just below the
Speaker 13: road level, and some young punks come up and just
Speaker 13: started urinating on the front of the car above huh,
Speaker 13: and we ran to get police. They did eventually show up,
Speaker 13: and then but before that they came down and ran down,
Speaker 13: you know. I mean, it was just it was not
Speaker 13: a fun time in the nineties either.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't. I can remember when I was before
Speaker 1: Kisses Kiss one O seven. It was Channel Z and
Speaker 1: I had a lot of knights, of bowguards, a lot
Speaker 1: of clubs and around their top cats, et cetera, short
Speaker 1: vine all that, you know, and regularly it was a
Speaker 1: lot of skater punks and others begging for change, meth
Speaker 1: heads and that type of thing. And uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I think every there's always going to be a
Speaker 1: little of that. It's kind of like when you turn
Speaker 1: a light on and roaches flee. That's kind of one
Speaker 1: of a better way to say it that I think
Speaker 1: a lot of that is and it's constant, but you
Speaker 1: can't condone it. And it's the little stuff too, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I just don't know how you
Speaker 1: explained of somebody that they're eleven year old kid is
Speaker 1: dead because they went to a playground on New Year's
Speaker 1: Day and didn't get out of the park alive. Effectively,
Speaker 1: it's insane.
Speaker 13: It's the youth they need since there's a big.
Speaker 3: Problem with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know where is no Jake, I
Speaker 1: appreciate the comment. I hope you have a great New year.
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that. I'm sorry you've dealt with that.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, I've been really lucky in that.
Speaker 1: I Mean a lot of people tell me how scared
Speaker 1: or uncomfortable they are going here or there around downtown
Speaker 1: or OTR or other places, and maybe I'm I'm an
Speaker 1: idiot or something. I mean, I try to be aware.
Speaker 1: I've been raised to be aware. But I go to restaurants,
Speaker 1: I go get drinks here and there, and I've been
Speaker 1: lucky to not have, you know, many problems aside from
Speaker 1: you know what I mentioned as a kid the first time,
Speaker 1: and I've had somebody pointing gout to me more than once.
Speaker 1: But it does rattle you, it will stick with you.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was always raised in tall subsequent
Speaker 1: to that, you know, you don't point a weapon at
Speaker 1: somebody or something unless you plan to destroy it or
Speaker 1: are willing to do so. So I tend to take
Speaker 1: that fairly seriously. But we have a major problem with
Speaker 1: a devaluation of life in a lot of circles, and
Speaker 1: the quick nature of solution and problem solving with a
Speaker 1: gun rather than other ways to de escalate, and the
Speaker 1: value of life for certain people is very small, including
Speaker 1: their own self respect. And that is you know, not
Speaker 1: knowing who's responsible for the shooting of this eleven year
Speaker 1: old child and taking her life. But just in general,
Speaker 1: we have a problem with that, even though overall our
Speaker 1: crime numbers are down around the country, it is a
Speaker 1: systemic issue. It is a sickness of some sort, and
Speaker 1: I guess there is no real easy way to get
Speaker 1: to a solution. My heart goes out to this family
Speaker 1: and I hope they get some justice and someone will
Speaker 1: be able to speak to those responsible for this to
Speaker 1: pay a price for taking this girl's life and putting
Speaker 1: this family through the pain that they're going through. Your
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock report is straight away. I had a conversation
Speaker 1: with University of Cincinnati's doctor Christino Day about living better
Speaker 1: in the new year. An update on the flu which
Speaker 1: is getting around pretty nasty, and maybe some over over
Speaker 1: indulgence still going on this New Year's weekend with a
Speaker 1: whole lot of people partying and probably having some issues
Speaker 1: with dehydration and hangovers. That's coming up after your eleven
Speaker 1: o'clock report. Right here on the home of the football
Speaker 1: Bearcats who lost in Liberty Bowl earlier tonight, you got
Speaker 1: some basketball bear Cats in action. Tomorrow, you got the
Speaker 1: Bengals in action Sunday to wrap up this season with
Speaker 1: the Browns coming to town. And this is the home
Speaker 1: of the best Bengals coverage. News Radio seven hundred WLW
Speaker 1: Cincinnati seven hundred w Welw Sterling hanging out, trying to
Speaker 1: be healthier on a New Years My first resolution this
Speaker 1: is the second New Year's in ear row where I
Speaker 1: found myself with what my Anileen would call it the croup.
Speaker 1: I think some people call it maybe bronchias. The flu
Speaker 1: is going around big time, and what I initially thought
Speaker 1: it was was allergies, but clearly I've got something more.
Speaker 1: But thankfully on the phone, not in person, not having
Speaker 1: to deal with that possibility. Is doctor Christine O'Day from
Speaker 1: UC Health. Welcome to seven hundred w welw, Happy New Year.
Speaker 14: Happy New Year, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Let's start with flu stuff before we start talking maybe
Speaker 1: about resolutions and living better and people hitting the bottle
Speaker 1: of New Year's who were amateurs who need to like
Speaker 1: reevaluate some things, maybe even right now, hopefully not behind
Speaker 1: the wheel. So doctor oday, flu season, because and I
Speaker 1: kind of sickly, I called the doctor like, don't come here.
Speaker 1: How bad is this flu season?
Speaker 14: Well, we're definitely seeing that cases are on the rise
Speaker 14: over the last few weeks. You know, we see this
Speaker 14: often during the holidays, when people are inside, they're at parties,
Speaker 14: they're exposed to a lot of germs. So we're definitely
Speaker 14: seeing a rise in influenza in particular, and particular influenza A,
Speaker 14: and so it is definitely going up at this time
Speaker 14: of year.
Speaker 1: I was good. I tend to get my shots. I
Speaker 1: take the dog and then I go to my pharmacy
Speaker 1: and get my jabs as well with the covid, the
Speaker 1: flu vaccine and everything. You mentioned the type of a
Speaker 1: strain I guess of this flu doctor oday. So this
Speaker 1: from what I understand, the prevalent see of that is
Speaker 1: not exactly what was under the umbrella of what this
Speaker 1: flu shot was targeting. But the flu shot still helps,
Speaker 1: is that correct?
Speaker 14: That's correct. We are seeing a new variant, and you know,
Speaker 14: the influenza virus does change every year. That's why we
Speaker 14: have to get a flu shot every year, because we
Speaker 14: create a new flu vaccine to cover whatever variants we
Speaker 14: think are going to be out there. There is a
Speaker 14: new variant that is partially covered by this by the
Speaker 14: flu shot that's out there, So we encourage people for
Speaker 14: sure to get their flu shot. The new variant is
Speaker 14: we think maybe causing a little bit more severe of
Speaker 14: a flu season, and so it is important to take
Speaker 14: all precautions that you can in terms of first of all,
Speaker 14: getting the flu shot, like you said, and you know,
Speaker 14: doing what you can to stay healthy, so eating well
Speaker 14: and healthy, getting enough sleep, drinking enough fluids, and certainly
Speaker 14: if you're sick, if you have a cough, cold fever,
Speaker 14: stay home if you can. If you have to go out,
Speaker 14: wear a mask so you're not passing those germs along
Speaker 14: to other people.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is the season of sharing germs and a
Speaker 1: whole lot of celebration and stuff along with it. From
Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati. It's a doctor Christine O'Day was sterling
Speaker 1: men eating better and sleeping which I could do better
Speaker 1: of hydrating in the right fluids, right, and we're not
Speaker 1: necessarily talking about boozing it up in celebration and maybe
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks with the holidays, how bad
Speaker 1: does that stretch of holiday celebration affect people as they
Speaker 1: start thinking into the new year of living better? Because
Speaker 1: that's one of those things that I'm always trying to
Speaker 1: talk about on the show and just in life, which
Speaker 1: is to try to get to the next level and
Speaker 1: hopefully stick around healthier longer. On this a little big
Speaker 1: blue marble, I guess is what we want to call it.
Speaker 14: A earth Well, I think you know, the New Year
Speaker 14: is a really good time to kind of think about
Speaker 14: how do we get healthy. Certainly during the holidays, many
Speaker 14: of us kind of fall out of our usual routines.
Speaker 14: Maybe we don't exercise as much as usual, and we're
Speaker 14: eating foods that are maybe not as healthy as we
Speaker 14: would like.
Speaker 1: But they're so good. Why are all the bad foods,
Speaker 1: by the way, doctor O'Day so good? Seriously?
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, it's tough, but there's lots of really good
Speaker 14: foods that are healthy, right, True is a good time
Speaker 14: at the new year to kind of get back on
Speaker 14: the bandwagon and to maybe set some goals for yourself
Speaker 14: to become a little bit more healthy. And you know,
Speaker 14: it's it's hard to make changes. It's hard to make
Speaker 14: a lot of big changes all at once. So what
Speaker 14: I really encourage patients to do is to maybe choose
Speaker 14: one small thing to work on. Instead of just saying
Speaker 14: I'm gonna try to live healthier or try to change
Speaker 14: my diet, maybe just choose one thing and work on that.
Speaker 14: So we talk about things like smart goals, where s
Speaker 14: is a specifical So instead of saying I'm just gonna
Speaker 14: eat healthier, maybe say, Okay, I'm going to try to
Speaker 14: eat more fruits and vegetables as my specific goal. And
Speaker 14: then M stands for measurable seat of just more fruits
Speaker 14: and vegetables. Set a goal of say, three fruits and
Speaker 14: vegetables every day, and make it something achievable, something that
Speaker 14: you can actually change in your diet or something that
Speaker 14: you can change in your life. Our stands for reasonable relevant,
Speaker 14: something that you feel like you can actually achieve. And
Speaker 14: then finally, TEA stands for time, So that means that
Speaker 14: you set a time bound goal for yourself so that
Speaker 14: I'm going to start eating three fruits and vegetables every
Speaker 14: day for the next month, and then you can celebrate
Speaker 14: those those small changes and celebrate those winds, and that
Speaker 14: makes it a little bit easier and I think it's
Speaker 14: more achievable to actually make those changes.
Speaker 1: So baby steps, So we do that, don't we. We make
Speaker 1: these grand ideas that we put in front of us
Speaker 1: that are challenging, and then within the first quarter of
Speaker 1: the new year, you know, I'm going to go to
Speaker 1: the gym every week, I'm going to let me eat better,
Speaker 1: I'm going to drink less, I'm going to sleep all
Speaker 1: these things that we just talked about doctor oday. And
Speaker 1: then people are disillusions, dissatisfied, and they're off the rails
Speaker 1: before summer gets here. So I guess living better maybe
Speaker 1: I want to say living better through lowered expectations, but
Speaker 1: just small incremental changes can make a big difference.
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, I think that really helps a lot because
Speaker 14: you get more motivated than when you've achieved something, and
Speaker 14: then you can move on to your next, smaller, next goal. Right, So,
Speaker 14: once you say, set a goal to start exercising and
Speaker 14: walking maybe fifteen minutes three times a week, then you
Speaker 14: can increase that to twenty minutes. And once you've done that,
Speaker 14: then you can increase it a little bit more, and
Speaker 14: so it's a little bit easier to make those changes.
Speaker 14: So and I also encourage folks to write those goals
Speaker 14: down and share them with somebody, so it's always easier
Speaker 14: to do something. Is that a goal? When you have
Speaker 14: a partner, you know who you're accountable to, and that
Speaker 14: maybe you're working on the same goal together.
Speaker 1: The thing text you and call you and tell you
Speaker 1: to get out of the house and that you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be here now go. You know that kind of scenario.
Speaker 1: It does help to have a buddy and working out
Speaker 1: or anything else. Absolutely, Doctor Christino Days from University of
Speaker 1: Cincinnati talking about living better in the new year. Who's
Speaker 1: worse at taking care of themselves? Men or women? I
Speaker 1: get told that. You know, I can't speak for all dudes,
Speaker 1: but I can say that we maybe are a little
Speaker 1: bit more animated in wine, in our misery, whether it's
Speaker 1: the sickness that I have now or other stuff, compared
Speaker 1: to women. But overall with caring for ourselves, is there
Speaker 1: a trait that men or women in one way or
Speaker 1: the other are better or worse?
Speaker 14: You know, I'm not sure that I know the answer
Speaker 14: to that, nor do I want to weigh in on
Speaker 14: that one. But it's a good question. But now, how
Speaker 14: was the time of year for all of us to
Speaker 14: kind of work on that?
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I think so. It's just one of
Speaker 1: those things. I think a lot of us guys will
Speaker 1: put stuff off, oftentimes not being proactive. We'll think about
Speaker 1: it and take care of the car better than we
Speaker 1: do ourselves sometimes with just regular maintenance.
Speaker 14: Well, you know, I think it's always good to have
Speaker 14: a partner who is going to support you in your
Speaker 14: lifestyle and health goals. Right, Yeah, And so you know,
Speaker 14: having somebody who can encourage you. First of all, like
Speaker 14: to eat healthy and being around somebody who's also eating
Speaker 14: healthy is really important. And also somebody who's going to
Speaker 14: encourage you to, for example, get a primary care provider
Speaker 14: if you don't have one, and see your you know,
Speaker 14: your primary care provider regularly. It's just good to be
Speaker 14: around people who are going to support you in a
Speaker 14: healthy lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Talking to doctor Christino Day from University of Cincinnati, and
Speaker 1: you've worked a little bit more with accessibility in primary
Speaker 1: care situations around the tri State with you see as well.
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely. Our goal that you see is for everybody
Speaker 14: to be able to have a primary care provider and
Speaker 14: to make Cincinnati a healthy city, and we know that
Speaker 14: primary care providers are really an important way to.
Speaker 3: Do that.
Speaker 14: So you know, if somebody doesn't have a primary care provider,
Speaker 14: I do encourage them to reach out and establish before
Speaker 14: you get sick, and also then you can so when
Speaker 14: you get sick you have somebody to call, but also
Speaker 14: to check in once a year just to make sure
Speaker 14: that you're up to date on all the health maintenance.
Speaker 14: There's a lot of immunizations now that are available and
Speaker 14: important for adults to get as well as kids. And
Speaker 14: also there's just a lot of important screenings that need
Speaker 14: to be done for things like breast cancer screening, cervical
Speaker 14: cancer screening, colon cancer screening. So I do encourage people
Speaker 14: to get a primary care provider and establish and see
Speaker 14: them regularly.
Speaker 1: And doctor Christino days a share of family and community medicine.
Speaker 1: You see hell Sterling seven hundred WLW New Year's Eve
Speaker 1: a lot of people out and about, but oftentimes it's
Speaker 1: amateur night. It's people that over indulge, who don't drink
Speaker 1: very much at all, if ever, and then they end
Speaker 1: up a mess and hungover and miserable with a brown
Speaker 1: bag flu to in this case because of the way
Speaker 1: the New Year falls, maybe skipping out work if they
Speaker 1: don't already have time off, or just miserable and more
Speaker 1: vulnerable for some of this flu and other stuff there too.
Speaker 1: What do you tell people who are out and about
Speaker 1: tonight or are going to be even at home maybe listening,
Speaker 1: we're probably hitting it a little bit harder than normal.
Speaker 1: How do they avoid ending up waking up absolutely miserable
Speaker 1: with that head throb and trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: food they should eat or have hair of the dog
Speaker 1: of the bite.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so we're learning so much more about how alcohol
Speaker 14: affects our bodies. And really what we're learning is that
Speaker 14: there's no safe amount of alcohol.
Speaker 1: So the horrible I mean seriously, I think bourgelais nouveaux
Speaker 1: up in Mount Adams, so no alcohol at all. So
Speaker 1: the idea of moderation isn't even really a good idea.
Speaker 14: Well, what I'm saying is that there if you're going
Speaker 14: to drink, drink and moderation. What we recommend for women
Speaker 14: is no more than two drinks per sitting and for
Speaker 14: men no more than three drinks per sitting. And what
Speaker 14: we define as a drink is a twelve ounce bottle
Speaker 14: of beer, six ounces of wine, or one shot, And
Speaker 14: so if you choose to drink, limit it to that amount.
Speaker 14: If you're going to be drinking, make sure you're drinking,
Speaker 14: you're drinking lots of fluids and non alcoholic beverages as well.
Speaker 14: Make sure that you're eating while you're drinking as well,
Speaker 14: and that you're kind of pacting yourself so that you're
Speaker 14: not drinking very quickly, that you're spacing it out over
Speaker 14: the course of the evening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the older we get, we get more experience.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times you think of college kids
Speaker 1: and so forth, who you know are just out free
Speaker 1: for the first time in their lives, over indulging in
Speaker 1: sort of learning the hard way with it. But it
Speaker 1: seems like this continues for a lot of us grown
Speaker 1: ups as well, around the holidays, New Years, et cetera.
Speaker 5: Two.
Speaker 14: Yeah, Yeah, alcohol does affect our bodies, and it affects our
Speaker 14: liver and affects our blood pressure, our hearts, and so
Speaker 14: as we're learning more about alcohol, we realize that it
Speaker 14: really can have quite a bit of effects negative effects
Speaker 14: on our body. So if you're going to drink, you know,
Speaker 14: drink and moderation and make sure that you're drinking lots
Speaker 14: of other fluids as well and eating at the same time.
Speaker 1: Talking to doctor Christino day Chair Family and Community Medicine,
Speaker 1: you see how Sterling seven hundred w welw final question here.
Speaker 1: When I was in Las Veig, just working before I
Speaker 1: came back here some years ago, I had a guy
Speaker 1: on the show and he was talking about IVS for
Speaker 1: people not just being dehydrated hanging out in the desert,
Speaker 1: but after over indulging, and he was doing quite a
Speaker 1: bang up business with people getting IVS at his wellness center,
Speaker 1: as he called it, after a hangover. And I've seen
Speaker 1: these things brought up all over the Tri State as well.
Speaker 1: What do we know about that is that just like
Speaker 1: somebody selling I don't know, snake oil or whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it or what.
Speaker 14: Well, I think what we see is that it is
Speaker 14: really important to stay really really hydrated and to drink
Speaker 14: fluids that have lots of electrolytes in them. And so
Speaker 14: that's kind of what you're getting when you're getting one
Speaker 14: of the IV fluids, is you're just getting lots of fluid.
Speaker 14: And so unless you're vomiting, unless you're not able to
Speaker 14: keep fluids down, you know, I think most people can
Speaker 14: drink and take those fluids orally so things even like
Speaker 14: the electrolyte drinks like GLA or things like that. Yeah,
Speaker 14: those have a lot of the salts and the electrolytes
Speaker 14: in them, and so just staying really well hydrated is
Speaker 14: so important and will help people feel better.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate your timing, your insight. I hope you
Speaker 1: have a fantastic new Year and hopefully people will be
Speaker 1: healthier and we can maybe contributed to that a little
Speaker 1: bit and with your help, certainly Chairfamily Community Medicine youseehealth
Speaker 1: dot com. You can find out more there. Doctor Christino Day,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Thank you for making time. I hope
Speaker 1: you'll come back and we can do this again.
Speaker 14: Thank you so much for having me, Sterling, and Happy New.
Speaker 1: Year, Happy New Year, more Sterling. Seven hundred WLW same
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Speaker 1: Glad you're along. It's pretty wild. Well, let me to
Speaker 1: mention this. It's not great new I mean maybe if
Speaker 1: you've been under a rock, unplugged, unaware, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean a New Year's week, it's kind of wild holidays
Speaker 1: I understand. Maybe football bear Cats had a hard time
Speaker 1: in Memphis Town the Liberty Bowl. Navy's midshipman handled the
Speaker 1: bear Cats pretty easily. They were down a whole lot
Speaker 1: of defensive back, starting quarterback entering the portal. Those guys
Speaker 1: onto the next place looking to get paid more, and
Speaker 1: the Bearcats had to carry on without them, and they
Speaker 1: fall thirty five thirteen and to wait till next year
Speaker 1: to try to better their situation, and they have to
Speaker 1: go shopping for some more talent. I'm all for these
Speaker 1: athletes getting paid, but it gets very weird trying to
Speaker 1: put together a team every year from scratch or nearly
Speaker 1: from scratch, depending on the circumstance. It's tough. You know,
Speaker 1: who really did well in the midst of portal and
Speaker 1: rebuilding and reconstructing a team. It's a team for almost
Speaker 1: my entire childhood that sucked, which is the dais uh?
Speaker 1: You know they play on in the college football playoff.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, they're undefeated, and it seemed like
Speaker 1: my entire childhood all they did was get beat up
Speaker 1: and lose. It's tough. I mean, seriously, five point three
Speaker 1: seven four nine seven, eight hundred. The big one. Your
Speaker 1: chance to get interact with Kevin Carr, conversation with him about, well,
Speaker 1: what's new with the movies this week? And maybe look
Speaker 1: back at twenty five at anything that's worth our time,
Speaker 1: maybe playing catch up on because there's just so many
Speaker 1: things to see. I will never if there is nothing
Speaker 1: else new created to be added to any of my
Speaker 1: next list or cues or whatever. Else do you want
Speaker 1: to call it? Pick a streaming service. I could start
Speaker 1: watching stuff now and probably not even get through the
Speaker 1: Netflix watch list, let alone Prime in Hulu, in HBO,
Speaker 1: and on and on it goes. I mean, it is unreal.
Speaker 1: And if you are one of those souls who remember MTV,
Speaker 1: h the beginning of the year brought basically the end
Speaker 1: to I think, if not all, of most of their
Speaker 1: all music channels have gone the way of the most
Speaker 1: phone booths, which is history, which is kind of weird.
Speaker 1: And they ended the way they started, which is video
Speaker 1: killed the radio star, which it didn't because they're still
Speaker 1: doing it in the iHeartRadio is bigger than ever and
Speaker 1: on demand. And you can leave me a message just
Speaker 1: by clicking on that microphone. See how I did that.
Speaker 1: I'm a professional. I put it together quickly. Let's get
Speaker 1: to Sue and Covington. She says, as a cure for
Speaker 1: my sickness before the news you got about thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: Can you heal me?
Speaker 3: Sue?
Speaker 15: Yes, I can.
Speaker 1: I wish somebody would. What do you have?
Speaker 15: Are you sure it's bronchitis or in your chest?
Speaker 1: I had chest everything. I'm feeling a little better now,
Speaker 1: but I've had gallons of water and emergency and too
Speaker 1: much coffee.
Speaker 15: Okay, all right, I head Every year I would get
Speaker 15: a case of bronchitis because I taught at school and
Speaker 15: my doctor. One year I went three months in a row.
Speaker 15: He gave me prescriptions, got rid of it for a
Speaker 15: couple of weeks. Then it came back the third time.
Speaker 15: I when he gave me a canful of samples, and
Speaker 15: I thought, I'm not calling with this. I had bought
Speaker 15: a book at a book sale by a French herbalist
Speaker 15: whose father was a French herbalist. I looked up everything
Speaker 15: dealing with head, nosed, throat and chest. Yes, the one
Speaker 15: recurring thing was the turnip cure, which all my friendings
Speaker 15: would do the except sign and say.
Speaker 1: No, no, I love turnips. What do you do with
Speaker 1: the turnative?
Speaker 15: Well, I didn't like turnips, and going to the grocery,
Speaker 15: I told mother to remind me to get turnips, and
Speaker 15: if she'd been driving, she would have been up a
Speaker 15: telephone pole. What you do is you get a couple
Speaker 15: of medium sized, well smaller, depending if you want to
Speaker 15: just give it a try at the beginning turnips, feel them,
Speaker 15: dice them up, cook them because they'll cook quicker when
Speaker 15: they're diced small.
Speaker 1: Sure, drain them, put them in.
Speaker 15: A mount blender, add enough milk that it's sort of
Speaker 15: like a shape medium, and then add honey.
Speaker 3: You know you got.
Speaker 1: Turnips and honey are great. I'm not a big fan
Speaker 1: of the milk. If I can, I have chocolate milk.
Speaker 3: With it.
Speaker 15: If you want to. Chocolate wasn't increased in there, but
Speaker 15: you could give it a try.
Speaker 1: I'll try it.
Speaker 15: I actually I had not had a case of bronchis
Speaker 15: since then, and that was like years ago.
Speaker 1: Well, Sue, I tell you what, I will try it.
Speaker 1: I'll track down some turnips tomorrow and I'll do it
Speaker 1: before next year. If I have a third New year
Speaker 1: sick with this nastiness, I'm just gonna call it quits.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you listening and helping, Sue. Thank you. I'll
Speaker 1: go in search of turnips like the dead Leonard Nimoy
Speaker 1: Brady Hopkins is like, really, turnip talk made me late
Speaker 1: for news. I'm sorry, he's got your eleven thirty report
Speaker 1: a minute late. Then Kevin Carr joins me on the
Speaker 1: other side. Sterling seven hundred WLW Did I blame it?
Speaker 1: On the cold medicine. How you doing? It's that season,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm just trying to get through it. I
Speaker 1: am so hydrated. I was telling Russ off the I
Speaker 1: think the last three days, I've had probably better part
Speaker 1: of two gallons of water each of these days, plus coffee,
Speaker 1: which I should not have had. The good doctor made
Speaker 1: a point of that, and all I can tell you
Speaker 1: is that I spent a lot of time getting up
Speaker 1: and going to the bathroom, and I'm probably more hydrated
Speaker 1: than I've ever been, but maybe hopefully getting rid of
Speaker 1: this nasty sickness faster. But it is ridiculous, and I
Speaker 1: want to apologize now and get out in front of it,
Speaker 1: because it's better to get in front of it than after.
Speaker 1: So we used to have in the old days. You know,
Speaker 1: at different times in the studio space you could see
Speaker 1: the news person. But I have a window into a hallway,
Speaker 1: so does Russ. Travis lair Is doing news has like
Speaker 1: a big, super deluxe facility on the other side of
Speaker 1: the building. And I didn't realize that like Brady had
Speaker 1: tagged out, or that Matt Reese had tagged out, And
Speaker 1: then I introduced to the wrong guy, and then Travis
Speaker 1: is like no love, No, we love Travis. He is
Speaker 1: back with your midnight Report in about twenty one minutes.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I talk about sickness and hydration and
Speaker 1: a guy who left town partner in the Chubby and
Speaker 1: Stick podcast that you might be able to find streaming someplace.
Speaker 1: It was one of the fat guys in the movies. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, silver Gecko on the sub stack. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about Kevin Carr, back from vacation, rested, relaxed, and tan,
Speaker 1: and he waited, of course, to get sick until he
Speaker 1: came home. How are you, how's life? How is everything car?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Happy nude ere Yeah, everything's good. You're right. I
Speaker 3: didn't get sick. I was on vacation over Christmas. I
Speaker 3: got sick right when I was traveling home. So if
Speaker 3: you're gonna get sick on vacation, that's the time to
Speaker 3: do it on your way back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not be miserable at the house rather than
Speaker 1: wherever it is that you go to sun yourself or
Speaker 1: ski or whatever it is that makes you happy.
Speaker 3: It's terrible, Well yeah, I mean it's already no fun
Speaker 3: going home, you know, it already sucks to drive back
Speaker 3: or fly back or take a boat back or whatever.
Speaker 3: The return trip always is not nearly as fun as
Speaker 3: the anticipation of going. So yeah, but I know, I
Speaker 3: get hit by the flu and that thing. That's no joke, man, No,
Speaker 3: that's knocked me on my butt.
Speaker 1: It's been pretty bad for me for a couple of days.
Speaker 1: But no fever. So I came in trying to stay
Speaker 1: away from everybody, and I'll spray everything down in here.
Speaker 1: I've been bathing in like antibacterial stuff and hopped up
Speaker 1: on like emergency and goofballs. So everything is fine, good.
Speaker 3: To hear, nobody to get pulled over on the way home.
Speaker 1: I no, no, no, everything's fine. I'm not doing it while
Speaker 1: I'm here.
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm just chugging the costs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, correct, correct, Everything's great. So think of it back
Speaker 1: at twenty five, because you know you always tell us
Speaker 1: what's new and picks to watch and everything else. Is
Speaker 1: there anything new? This is a weird window of time,
Speaker 1: the way Christmas and New Year's has fallen. Is anything new?
Speaker 1: Before I start picking your brain about maybe what we've
Speaker 1: missed and stuff to catch up on from twenty five?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's like a couple of smaller things.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of times you get limited released
Speaker 3: huff the first weekend always that New Year, whatever that
Speaker 3: New Year's weekend is is always kind of an off wee.
Speaker 3: So there's nothing big even like what was weird is
Speaker 3: there weren't any real big opening on Christmas Day movies.
Speaker 3: I mean, there was Anna Condo I still want to
Speaker 3: see because it just looks stupid and fun. But but
Speaker 3: there was a song sung Blue, which is that Neil
Speaker 3: Diamond tribute kind of it's it's based on a true
Speaker 3: story starring Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson, and that's that's fine,
Speaker 3: But there there was no big Christmas Day movie where
Speaker 3: sometimes things are like opening Christmas Day and I think
Speaker 3: that they knew that Avatar was going to suck the
Speaker 3: air out of the room, so they did. Everyone just
Speaker 3: kind of vacated the next week and then this week
Speaker 3: is always a dead week and then we you know,
Speaker 3: hit it hard, like next week with Private the Killer
Speaker 3: Chimpanzee movie and the In the green Lands two movie.
Speaker 3: If it wasn't enough to watch Gerard Butler try to
Speaker 3: save his family from everything on the planet, you got
Speaker 3: him coming back in this one as well.
Speaker 1: Nice, that's pretty good, uh is. First of all, let
Speaker 1: me ask you about this the movie that you just
Speaker 1: mentioned about Neil Diamond, But it's not really about him.
Speaker 1: That's about right, that's about these people who basically are
Speaker 1: a what do you want to call it a cover act?
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, Well they like to call themselves a Neil
Speaker 3: Diamond experience. You know, it's not even a tribute but inexperience,
Speaker 3: and it's it is based on a true story. There
Speaker 3: was a documentary about it about this guy who just
Speaker 3: loves Neil Diamond so much he kind of does the
Speaker 3: tribute band, meets another impersonator share her big thing is
Speaker 3: Patsy Klein. But then they work together to kind of
Speaker 3: do and they fall in love and they have this
Speaker 3: whole story. And with any story, there's ups and downs
Speaker 3: and good and bad things happening. And I mean that's
Speaker 3: it's a sweet enough story. It pushes all the right buttons.
Speaker 3: It's predictable, but you know that's the thing. Life kind
Speaker 3: of predictable for a lot of you. You know, you
Speaker 3: know something bad is gonna happen, you know that is
Speaker 3: gonna be bouncing back and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But I mean, it's it's a fine little movie. It
Speaker 3: does get a little heavy on the Neil Diamond songs,
Speaker 3: if you might If you find that hard to believe.
Speaker 1: Well you got to be a fan of Neil Diamond.
Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna watch anyway, which leads me to
Speaker 1: an interesting thing. I just read something that said one
Speaker 1: of the family members of I guess these people were
Speaker 1: not happy with the way they were portrayed or how
Speaker 1: the movie came out. Yet I've heard people say good
Speaker 1: things about the movie. So that's a weird thing. Great movie,
Speaker 1: but apparently not true to form, or at least the
Speaker 1: family members not happy with what they saw.
Speaker 3: What. Well, here's the thing when it comes to when
Speaker 3: it comes to true stories, is true, it's no one
Speaker 3: wants to see it. It's a boring movie. If everybody
Speaker 3: is always good and perfect and honest and above board,
Speaker 3: and nobody's like that. Everybody has their dark side, everybody
Speaker 3: has their flaws, everybody has their ups and downs and
Speaker 3: their good days and they're bad days. And so when
Speaker 3: I see a movie that's especially if it's even if
Speaker 3: it's a famous person biopic and it's like approved completely
Speaker 3: by the family, I was kind of like, well, that's
Speaker 3: probably not that good because you don't get the downside.
Speaker 3: Like there's a movie and there's no slight against Jesse Owens.
Speaker 3: He was an absolute hero. But there was a movie
Speaker 3: called Race that came out I don't ten years fifteen
Speaker 3: years ago, and it was it was a biopick about
Speaker 3: Jesse Owens and him going to the Olympics and winning
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. But it was like
Speaker 3: like produced by his family. And I'm like, not that
Speaker 3: Jesse Owens had these dark skeletons in the closet or
Speaker 3: anything like that, but there was everybody has ups and downs,
Speaker 3: and everybody has good points and bad points, and the
Speaker 3: movie did feel a little bit sanitized, whereas if it's
Speaker 3: a you know, so, it may it may have shown
Speaker 3: something that's true. It's just maybe the family didn't like
Speaker 3: what was shown. I'm not a biographer of this these people,
Speaker 3: but that's one of the things you run into where
Speaker 3: they feel that they focused too much on this because
Speaker 3: it made them look a certain way and not enough
Speaker 3: about this. I mean, it's it's like anything if anyone
Speaker 3: did a story of your well, I don't know, for me,
Speaker 3: it could be one of those things I'd watch and
Speaker 3: I'd be like, well you kind of improved on things.
Speaker 1: So I mean I'm living the life. I could write
Speaker 1: it better than I'm living. Yes, I absolutely could. For
Speaker 1: me anyway, talking to Kevin Carr Silver Gecko on Substack
Speaker 1: with Sterling on seven hundred WLW. So all right, so
Speaker 1: let's move I guess back and look at it twenty
Speaker 1: five if possible, because there are always so many things
Speaker 1: that are put out, and now with streaming it's even
Speaker 1: more so. What is there? I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: how many you have. If it's ten, if it's five,
Speaker 1: what are the like? If you miss this, must see
Speaker 1: go back stream it, find it because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of good things that just fall through the cracks
Speaker 1: because there's just simply so much stuff to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I mean like like certain ones. Obviously,
Speaker 3: people know I really loved Superman. You know that. You
Speaker 3: remember me talking about that, absolutely, and that was that
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun. But but like some that
Speaker 3: and maybe we're lesser seen, and some of these are
Speaker 3: darker movies. I tend to fall into the horror appreciation.
Speaker 3: There was a movie that was called good Boy, and
Speaker 3: it came out I don't know, about four months ago,
Speaker 3: and it was about a dog and it's a horror
Speaker 3: moy told from the dog's perspective. And it starts a
Speaker 3: dog named Indy, who who's Who's should be in the
Speaker 3: running for best actor of any category of anything. You know,
Speaker 3: it should he should get the oscar. Oh, he's a
Speaker 3: very good boy. And it's it's it's a really interesting approach.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's got the best main subject as well,
Speaker 3: So that one is really good. If you haven't seen that,
Speaker 3: check that out. I think it's on shutter you can
Speaker 3: probably find it elsewhere. I also was a big thing.
Speaker 3: You had two fantastic Stephen King adaptations. One of them
Speaker 3: was The Long Walk, which is difficult to watch, came
Speaker 3: out I think in this late August or late summer
Speaker 3: August area. Very difficult to watch because it has heavy,
Speaker 3: dety subject matter. But it's a fantastic adaptation of the
Speaker 3: original Richard Bachman book that Stephen King kind of wrote
Speaker 3: under a pseudonym back in the seventies. But he also
Speaker 3: did The Monkey Osgod Perkins, the son of Anthony Perkins
Speaker 3: who played Norman Bates. He directed this this over the top,
Speaker 3: crazy violent tale about this this this little uh, well
Speaker 3: it used to have like this symbols, monkey had the symbols.
Speaker 3: They had to change it to him hitting a drum,
Speaker 3: the monkey with a drum for the movie.
Speaker 1: Well, what was that? Because they were going to sue them,
Speaker 1: or they didn't like the way that the toy was
Speaker 1: being shown or something or what.
Speaker 3: I think that some other company, like maybe it might
Speaker 3: have been like a toy story thing has a monkey
Speaker 3: with symbols, and so they said, let's just avoid that completely,
Speaker 3: even though the original story was a monkey with symbols.
Speaker 3: And it's just a bonkers movie. And if you like
Speaker 3: sort of these insane, over the top at darkly funny movies,
Speaker 3: the monkeys are fantastic. It's kind of off brand for
Speaker 3: Osgod Perkins because the stuff you saw long legs, I mean,
Speaker 3: that thing was heavy and grim, but this one, I
Speaker 3: mean it's an over the top splatterfest.
Speaker 1: Well there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, you got
Speaker 1: to be in the right mood. But I'm all for that.
Speaker 1: Uh tell me, But I know you have others in
Speaker 1: the list, but I'm just thinking about this one battle
Speaker 1: after another. Is that one of those that you would
Speaker 1: say this is that this is one of the better
Speaker 1: ones of ninety five. Or oh I just flashed back
Speaker 1: thirty years.
Speaker 3: I'm about to say that that's pt Anderson, that's in
Speaker 3: his infancy. No, this one's good. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 3: a I'm not a total acolyte of pt Anderson, but
Speaker 3: this was a This was a good movie. It's one
Speaker 3: of those ensemble movies because Leonard Dicapiro does a great
Speaker 3: job in it, Chase Infinity, who plays his daughter, she
Speaker 3: does a great job in it. Sean Penn as wickedly
Speaker 3: evil as the bad guy. Excuse me. Then cl del
Speaker 3: Toro is a hoot in this movie. So that, yeah,
Speaker 3: that was worth seeing. If you've not seen it, it
Speaker 3: is an experience. It's a little long, so I do
Speaker 3: warn you about that, but actually want to know what's
Speaker 3: real bonkers, check out Begonia Sometimes. That's the one where
Speaker 3: Emmastone plays like a CEO and Jesse Plemmon's kidnaps her
Speaker 3: thinking she's an alien, shaves off her head and and
Speaker 3: and is keeping her in her his basement because he
Speaker 3: doesn't want her to he wants to stop the alien invasion.
Speaker 3: It is. It is chilling because you're like you'd watch
Speaker 3: the movie and you'd be like, yeah, I know somebody
Speaker 3: like that, and I don't know somebody who would who
Speaker 3: might try that, you know what I mean? And it's
Speaker 3: it's very very disturbing at times.
Speaker 1: She's made some really really good films, hasn't she?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, and this is its dirrected by Yorgus Latmos,
Speaker 3: who did poor things which she won. What are her
Speaker 3: oscars for? So you see you see less of Emmastone
Speaker 3: in this one, then you do important, But you saw.
Speaker 1: All of Emma Stone, all of her, Yes she did,
Speaker 1: and that's not all bad as for sure? Anything else
Speaker 1: of the like well, because you mentioned in one two
Speaker 1: through Stephen King movies, Long Walk, The Monkey, Good Boys, Superman.
Speaker 1: Uh you mentioned Begonia? What what else?
Speaker 3: Any weapons? Weapons is a great movie if you've not
Speaker 3: seen that one. It's directed by it's written a director
Speaker 3: by Zach Craigor. He did Barbarian a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: Originally started out in comedy doing the Whitest Kid, you know,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and lo and behold. He's a brilliant horror director.
Speaker 3: So Weapons is a fantastic movie, almost impossible to spoil
Speaker 3: because it's so twisted and convoluted in what it's trying
Speaker 3: to do. It's uh, it's you keep guessing even if
Speaker 3: you know what's going to happen. So it's and Amy
Speaker 3: Madigan is fantastic in that movie.
Speaker 1: Nice, okay, good good. I like him. Anything else of
Speaker 1: consequence before like we let you rest in, convalesce and
Speaker 1: do whatever it is you have to do. Hydrate. That's
Speaker 1: what I've been doing. I really I joke about the
Speaker 1: big drinks when we've gone to the movies together whatever
Speaker 1: in the catheter. But I have been consuming so much
Speaker 1: in the way of fluids to try to get through
Speaker 1: this sickness that a cather which I just went thinking about,
Speaker 1: might actually save me some time.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, well then the key is if you're sick,
Speaker 3: you don't want to have anything with too much caffeine
Speaker 3: in it. Now you can have tea like to drink
Speaker 3: and so your sues your throat. But no, that's why
Speaker 3: you go with like sprite seven up water whatever yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: PD alighte or you know, cater raid or something like that.
Speaker 1: So this thirty ounce container the mug of ice coffee
Speaker 1: is a bad choice.
Speaker 3: Probably not a great idea. That's that's that's a lot
Speaker 3: of that's a lot of caffeine. Caffeine will dehydrate you'll
Speaker 3: you'll expel more than you take in.
Speaker 1: That might explain my need to go Yeah, okay, well yeah.
Speaker 3: But no, I would say. The only other thing I
Speaker 3: I I that that's really on my radar is you
Speaker 3: got the finale of Stranger Things that dropped on on
Speaker 3: it was it New Year's Eve or New Year's Day?
Speaker 3: It was New Year's Eve and it was a great
Speaker 3: wrap up to the show. I'm not gonna spoil or anything,
Speaker 3: but it's it's definitely worth checking out. If you've been
Speaker 3: waiting to borrow somebody's Netflix password, now's the time to
Speaker 3: do it. You've got there's forty two episodes, which amounts to, well,
Speaker 3: I don't know what, one hundred and eighty six hours
Speaker 3: of eve.
Speaker 1: It's really a lot. Yeah, but it's good.
Speaker 3: It's worth worth checking out.
Speaker 1: And did I read or did you didn't tell me something?
Speaker 1: Is there going to be a movie about that? Or
Speaker 1: is that just what? I don't No, no, no.
Speaker 3: They they released the two hour series permi see the
Speaker 3: series finale that is the this week and it made
Speaker 3: like twenty million dollars.
Speaker 1: That's better than a lot this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean and it was it was
Speaker 3: sort of that that like Bathom event kind of one time,
Speaker 3: one or two night thing. But I mean it is cinematic.
Speaker 3: It's a great to you know, sometimes you go and
Speaker 3: watch like the two hour finale and you're like, that
Speaker 3: could have been forty five minutes. Yes, yeah, this one
Speaker 3: it does take its time. I mean, you have you
Speaker 3: definitely have a nice dinu ma you know date. It's
Speaker 3: not like they like wrap up the bad stuff and
Speaker 3: then roll credits. They it's a little bit return to
Speaker 3: the King trying to you know, wrap everything up at
Speaker 3: the end. So but it's worth it if you if
Speaker 3: you've stayed through all five seasons, you watch these twenty
Speaker 3: some year old kids graduate from high school or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the kind of thing something to do.
Speaker 1: I suppose it's it's a weird thing. I'm wondering at
Speaker 1: this point, are there too many options? As far as
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 3: Never say that, No, I would never say that. That's
Speaker 3: that's like, that's like that's like your what your wife's
Speaker 3: coming home like, sorry, honey, we're just having way too
Speaker 3: much sex.
Speaker 1: No, there's I mean, there's I've seen a lot of movies,
Speaker 1: not as many as you because it's been your life.
Speaker 1: But I uh, and and I've had some sex. I
Speaker 1: gotta say, Kevin Carr, I have never, not once ever
Speaker 1: like compared I mean, equality film to even bad sex.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, you know, what's that whole thing?
Speaker 3: You know, like you have pizza, pizza, even bad pizzas good.
Speaker 1: Right, right, I mean, how many movies have you like, gone,
Speaker 1: this is a complete waste of time. I want to
Speaker 1: get the hell out of this theater or falling asleep
Speaker 1: or otherwise. I mean I have bolted out of theaters
Speaker 1: and gone across the hall because I'm like, I'm never
Speaker 1: getting that part of my life back. Ever, I've never
Speaker 1: known the mist of sex and gone, I got to
Speaker 1: get out of here. Maybe once.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I mean it's not a perfect comparison,
Speaker 3: but I mean it is. It is one of those things.
Speaker 3: But the whole these are too many options. I love
Speaker 3: the fact that we have options. I love the fact
Speaker 3: that there's more stuff than because this is the thing
Speaker 3: you can bolt. You can bail if you start watching
Speaker 3: something and you're like this is boring, I can go
Speaker 3: to something else.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: Do you remember the back everyone is complaining about too
Speaker 3: many options. Remember back in the day we had three
Speaker 3: three channels lucky. Maybe PBS was showing money.
Speaker 1: But don well, you're right, and and I and if
Speaker 1: you were like me, and we've discussed this before. Kevin
Speaker 1: carr By, by the way, is silver Gecko on the
Speaker 1: sub stack talking movies and so forth with Stirling on
Speaker 1: the big one. I mean, I thought my only purpose
Speaker 1: in life as a young tiny sterling was to hold
Speaker 1: the antenna and stand appropriately so we might be able
Speaker 1: to get more than the three, so we could get
Speaker 1: eet and sixteen out of Dayton, so we could get
Speaker 1: nineteen and then maybe twenty two out of Dayton. You know,
Speaker 1: in that type of situation and the weather was really good,
Speaker 1: maybe you get a Columbus station or an Indianapolis station.
Speaker 1: And that might have been if I took the foil
Speaker 1: and wrapped it around the top.
Speaker 3: Of the room. Yeah, I mean I grew up in Columbus.
Speaker 3: We had three stations in PBS and that was it.
Speaker 3: We didn't get independent TV stations until the mid eighties.
Speaker 3: And I remember we'd go up and visit my family
Speaker 3: in Cleveland, they had a couple of them. I thought
Speaker 3: it was great that channel surfing. You could go seven
Speaker 3: stations before you got back to the Brady bunch again.
Speaker 3: So look, I mean, I will take more content over
Speaker 3: nothing any day. And I love the fact that people promote, oh,
Speaker 3: Blockbuster's closed. You can't. Oh I'm sorry. You go to
Speaker 3: Blockbuster and you can't all agree on a movie and
Speaker 3: then it be out. You know, you can't wait six
Speaker 3: years to go see my best friend's wedding because the
Speaker 3: entire wall at Blockbuster's gone. No, I mean, you can
Speaker 3: just watch whatever you want to. I will never complain
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 1: There you go, don't complain. Options are good. It's good
Speaker 1: to have choices. I mean, that's the bottom line absolutely.
Speaker 1: Kevin Carr, thank you for making time. I know that
Speaker 1: you're convalescing. You're sickly, but tan and rested into the
Speaker 1: new year. So I wish you and the family car
Speaker 1: the best, and I look forward to to hanging out
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